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It is verdict with Senator Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson with your senator, You've come back from one incredible trip, and I know that that is something that you have a lot to talk about with Zelensky having a meeting with him. But there's also some very important breaking news even before that.
We're going to get to. Well, that's exactly right. I'm back in America, back in Texas, very glad to be back home, and there is a lot going on in the world. Number one, we have what's happening in Israel. The Daring Rescue, the IDF went in and rescued four American hostages. Of course, the corporate media went crazy blaming Israel, and then it was discovered that among the captors that were holding the hostages was a quote unquote journalist who's
in fact a Hamas terrorist. We're going to break that down along with the rabidly anti Israel pro Hamas protests outside of the White House, Joe Biden and the Democrats do nothing as protesters deface monuments and assault law enforcement officers. On top of that, we're going to get into the Hunter Biden trial, and in particular, it is now admitted
that the laptop is real. It is accurate. The Biden administration is arguing that in court, and everyone who lied about it for week after week and month after month and year after year crickets from all of them. None of them are admitting, from James Clapper to Tony Blinken to all of the president's liars that lied on his behalf, they're suddenly silent, and of course the media doesn't care.
And then finally we're going to get into the meeting I had just two days ago with President Zelenski while we were in France. We sat down and talked about what's happening in Ukraine. I'm going to tell you about that as well.
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what has happened there. It is a great victory, especially, I think just for morale and to know that some of the hostages are still a live. Israeli officials came out and said they had a raid. They were able to free four hostages from two different locations. BB made it clear, we won't stop until they're all home.
That was his message.
Well, that's exactly right. The IDF sent in special forces and they rescued four hostages. This was in Gaza. They went in and they found them and they got them out. The four hostages Almagh Mayor John Noah, Argamani, Andre Koslov and Shlomy Ziv with the four hostages, three men and a woman. They had been hostages since October seventh, and the IDF went in they got them out. It is incredible. That is cause for celebration, but it is also it
really is striking. As soon as it happened, the corporate media immediately began attacking who not Amas, attacking Israel, and their narrative was, well, you shouldn't have killed Palestinians.
Doing it, and and and they.
Began by saying by focusing on a Gaza journalist, a Gaza journalist who wrote for Al Jazeera uh and and who has been a vocal journalist writing on writing on what is happening in Gaza. He wrote for the Palestine Chronicle, which is an American five oh one c. Three and and he was writing regularly. Well, it turns out this quote unquote journalist also happens to be a Hamas terrorist who was keeping three hostages in his home for months upon months upon months. And so yes, he was killed.
The terrorist was killed when they rescued the hostage from his house where he was keeping them captive.
You look at the story when it broke, and it's it's two things that the media, even in this country, basedly overlooked that were incredibly important. Number One, there were casualties, because apparently there was munitions in and around the hostages. And number two, they hid these hostages in a heavily populated area where people like a quote journalist would be living.
And this was nothing more than human shield So yet Israel goes in and saves for their own and even the US media and many different media organizations around the world started attacking Israel because, as they said, well, and it's the people died, Well that is the fault of Amas for using them as human shields.
Well, that's right.
You know.
On Twitter, there was one doctor from Gaza who tweeted out one of the people, the father of the SAMAS terrorist and journalist, was also killed, and a doctor from Gaza tweeted out the following red siren quote. Just learn the heartbreaking news of the martyrdom of one of the finest colleagues I've ever worked with, doctor Ahmed al Jamal
seventy three. He was tragically killed by the Israeli army during the Nusurat massacre central Gaza strip, which claimed over two hundred lives and injured hundreds.
And it's a.
Picture of this older man with a beard holding a baby, and he's described as one of the finest colleagues he's ever worked with, except he has this annoying little habit of keeping hostages in his home. Mind you, he lived there, so he was complicit in keeping the hostages captive. You don't have three hostages living in your home in a dense urban environment without knowing about it, without knowing about it,
withoutout being actively complicit. And yet we saw all of the corporate media outlets echoing the stories that can you believe those men Israelis killed an innocent doctor, killed an innocent journalist. It's worth remembering the next time you see a story being reported from quote journalists in Gaza, you ought to ask yourself, okay, and is that does that journalists have hostages in his home? Because that's that's the environment we're talking about.
Well, and it's not just that I want to paint a picture here that the media will not paint for you. Apparently this journalist, it wasn't like he was living by himself and basically turned his apartment into some military style prison. He was living with his family there, So not just did he know that he obviously has these hostages, but you had to keep them alive, and there was obviously amas coming and going and not only that you had his family that knew it as well.
Yep, the quote unquote journalist. His name was Abdallah al Jamal, and he had three of the hostages there. He had Al mag Andre and Shlomy. So the three men were hostages at his home along with his family, and his family was killed. Well, you know what, if you're willing to stand guard on hostages, you know people are saying, oh, this is terrible. I'll give you a real easy way not to be killed by commandos rescuing hostages. Don't take
hostages and keep them imprisoned in your home. If you are a terrorist, you should not be surprised that you're treated as a terrorist.
You look at this story and let's go back to the bravery and the commitment from Israel and compare and contrast that and bring this back home to this country. There used to be and I talked about this extensively on my show today that if you were an American you almost had an invisible bubble around you when you travel the world. Don't screw with that American, whether it's in Mexico, whether it's in the Middle East, whether it's anywhere in the world. When I traveled abroad in college.
I wasn't worried because I knew I was an American, and I knew that that gave me another level of protection from people messing with me, because if you mess with me, you were messing with the United States of America. That is gone now, that bubble, as I described it as completely gone. And the idea that there's still American citizens being held hostage and we're not hearing about them. I'm not sure the President could name any of their names. The White House refuses to bring it up or talk
about it. And you look at what Israel's doing saying We're coming for you, and we're going to keep coming until we get you all back. Where is America's resolved, for goodness sakes? And where are we with getting our own citizens back?
Senator, look at it. It's absolutely pitiful. There are five Americans that are still being held hostage, and the Biden White House, as far as I can tell, is not doing a damn thing to try to get them out. What the Biden White House has done is Nonumber one, harangue Israel from day one. Number two, blockade weapons from going to Israel. Number three, send money to Gaza that goes to Hamas and number four, pressure and use leverage on Israel to try to get Israel to stop killing
the Hamas terrorists. That's what Biden has done. That's what this administration has done. Can you imagine Biden's sending in special forces to rescue American hostages. It's not imaginable because he wouldn't do it. They're not focused on it. It's not a priority. Look, I'm going to read you the story from the Detroit News. In Detroit, Kamala Harris morns Palestinians killed in Israeli hostage rescue. So that's her message. The Vice President goes to Detroit. Mind you, dearborn, Michigan
has a huge Muslim population. They're terrified they're going to lose Michigan, and so they're not worried about American hostages. Is the Vice President's message. Oh, it is terrible that these terrorists were killed. And by the way, it is worth remembering also the next time you hear these numbers given of civilian casualties, understand every one of these terrorists who was actually keeping hostages prisoner. They were described in the early media coverage as civilians. Yeah, great point that
that's the lie. And mind you, these hostages were not in tunnels, they were not in military outlets, they were in civilian apartment buildings. I mean Hamas deliberately surrounds hostages, surrounds its terrorists with civilians, and when the media describes people as civilians, many of the people the media call civilians are not.
Will we get any more clarification from the White House about any of this, like is there a plan? And look, they always get to hide behind and understand it. There's many times when you're dealing with the hostage situations like hey, they go to the families like, hey, please don't do anything publicly. We're working behind the scenes. You could actually make things worse. We've seen that with Russia, for example.
They're still an American being held there. But we got the WNBA star out and the families like we played by the rules they gave us, which was to be silent, be quiet. It didn't work, it didn't help, and so this seems to be the get out of jail free card for this White House. Consistently, when Americans are held hostage, well it's we're working the back channels and we really can't say much publicly, like, at what point does that
answer become unacceptable? And also to the family members who are sitting there waiting for these updates.
Look, if the Biden White House is doing anything other than undermining Israel to try to get the American hostages out, I don't know what it is, and they're doing it silently, but it is difficult to imagine. It's difficult to imagine this administration doing anything remotely like what Israel carried out. And you know, you contrast it, you contrast it to Israel in the Ntegi Raid.
Now.
Look, sometimes Ben, people ask me, how is it that a guy who is a Cuban Texan Southern Baptist ended up as the leading defender of Israel in the United States Senate. And there are lots of reasons for that, but it is very much a passion for me, and it's personal and one of the reasons has to do with my childhood and growing up. I remember very clearly the Ntegi raid. It happened in nineteen seventy six. I was five years old at the time, and Israel went in.
Palestinian terrorist had hijacked a plane full of Israelis and had taken them to Uganda. And when that happened, Israel in commandos and rescue the hostages, rescued one hundred and two hostages. And I mean it was amazing and brave. And when I was five years old, I was watching that happen. To me, what it said was that Israel's philosophy was if you take our citizens hostage, they may die,
but you're going to die. Yeah, And that to me was a very Texan foreign policy and it's not something you could imagine Joe Biden capable of.
For people that are curious about one last aspect of going and getting your people, there seems to be this new idea. And I saw a lot of this on social media over the weekend, and I saw people were writing this. They were like, well, look, America couldn't go into Gaza. That would be Israel's job to get our hostages back. So you got to understand that it's not like America could do anything. Can you explain how absurd that idea is?
We get our hostages anywhere in the world?
Okay, so normal, Just so people understand that, because there actually seems to be a lot of misinformation that if well, if they're in another country. It's not as simple as you can just go get them.
Sure, sure you can that That is the job of the military is to protect Americans, and rescuing American hostages is a critical responsibility. It can be difficult, but if you have hostages that are that are taken by terrorists, by the way, you know, you remember back when when Jimmy Carter was president and and we had in Iran, we had American hostages taken and held in captivity for four hundred and forty four days when the Iranian radical
Islamic terrorists took over the embassy. Jimmy Carter sent a military force to go attack to try to get the hostages out, and the military force ended up crashing in the desert with no opposing fire.
I mean, it was but.
To Carter's credit, he actually tried. I had to go in and do something. If Joe Biden has done anything to try to free those American hostages, he hasn't bothered to tell us or anybody in the world about it.
Yeah.
That's and I think that's the biggest concern for so many Americans right now, is the aspect that we're just sitting around kind of waiting and letting Israel, in essence, take the lead here. I hope that we get some answers or at least some accountability or or pressure on this White House. Is there any way that you guys lastly in Congress can do that.
Well, as we've talked about, I'm going to be forcing a vote and a vote in the next couple of weeks on my resolution under the War Powers Act to defund the gazap Here, and that by using the War Powers Act I can Schumer can't stop me from getting a vote. And so look, I would rather force a vote on providing military weapons to Israeli meet and stopping Joe Biden the Democrats from blockading those weapons. But Schumer's not going to allow that vote. He's already said he's
not going to allow a vote at all. He's just going to say no. And so what I can force a vote on is the second half stopping the money that is going to the gazap here.
And so that's exactly what I'm going to do.
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Senaer, I also want to ask you one other question, and that is about the protests that took place in front of the White House.
Uh.
This was Hamas pro Hamas has Blau protests that took place. They were very clearly in favor of these terrorists organizations. They also defaced and attacked American monuments as well, and yet no one seems to be covering it.
Well, look It really was outrageous. You saw an angry mob that was conducting brazen criminal activity right outside the White House.
Uh they were.
If they themselves are not actual terrorists, they're certainly supporting terrorists. They are chanting in support of Hamas. They're carrying signs saying they support Hamas. Here here take take take a listen to what they're chanting as they're walking down the streets outside the White House.
By another now, I mean, sir, this is in front of the White House. He has blah, kill another Zionus now and another part they were saying, kill another soldier now that this is calling for the extermination of the Jews.
And it's right in front of the White House.
Yeah.
Look, and this is number one. This is now the hardcore base of the Democrat Party. These are the voters that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Chuck Schumer are trying to kiss up to and get the votes of. It's why Kamala Harris went to Michigan and said that that that that expressed her remorse for the Palestinian terrorists being killed instead of standing clearly with Israel against Tomas and and you look at what happened. These people are claiming to be Hamas, I think we should take them
at their word for it. And they are also committing brazen crimes. They are defacing monuments. They're the statue of Lafayette, a great, a great hero, pivotal in the founding of America. They're spraying, spray painting, Free Gaza, their spray painting, and they're doing it right out in the open. There was a law enforcement officer standing outside the statue. They're throwing things at him. They're throwing water bottles at him, and
and the stunning thing is all right. DC Metro police said they made zero protest related arrests at the protest. US Secret Service told reporters they made no arrests at the protest. So you can vandalize, you can spray paint, you can deface public monuments, you can assault police officers, you can you can call for the murder of Jews, and there are no consequences in this administration. That's who they are and this is who they're rooting for and to be queer.
So people understand, I lived in DC. You're there, you know, virtually part of every week when you guys are in session, I think people needed to understand DC is a very liberal city run by Democrats, and this is a top down Whether it was Black Lives Matter, whether it was sitting at church on fire across from the White House when Trump was in office, this is the Democratic Party that is basically sanctioning this behavior in saying we will
continue to look the other way because it's complicated. You've got secret service, it has certain type of jurisdiction, but it's not in many parts of the streets where a local police would be, and that's where the Democrats are in charge.
Well, number one, DC is an overwhelmingly Democrat city. The mayor is a very left wing Democrat.
D C voted.
I think it was ninety four percent or ninety six percent for Joe Biden. So it's almost exclusively a one party town. And the DC police, the mayor is not letting them arrest anyone. But on top of that, Lafayette Square is under the control of the US Department of the Interior, so it is the Biden administration. Joe Biden could direct his administration, the FBI could go out and arrest these people, and they're not doing it. They're not doing it because they don't want to offend the people
chanting hesbela, hesbela, kill another ziotist. The Democrats look at that and say, hey, those are the people who's votes we want. The protest had around nine thousand people in it, the anti Israel pro Hamas protests. This is a massive protest outside the White House. How many US Park police do you think we're assigned to police the nine thousand person protests.
I'm genuinely curious. I have no idea.
Seventy one, wow, seventy one police officers for nine thousand protesters. They also park police command staff did not allow the officers to wear riot gear, so they were not able to defend themselves from nine thousand protesters, not able to use the equipment they need, and seventy one officers. This administration does not want to shut these protests down, and
they look the other way. And by the way, this is an apartment of justice where, my goodness, if you pray outside an abortion clinic, they'll come after you with commandos at your house. If you were standing on the mall on January sixth singing God bless America, they'll track you down wherever you are and devote all the resources of the Department of Justice. There's video of everyone to facing these monuments, throwing things at law enforcement, and the
Biden administration is doing zero. Their view is if we agree with your politics, and tragically today the Democrats agree with the politics of the people saying hesbeala kill. Another zionis now, if they agree with your politics, they will not arrest you, they will not charge you, they will not prosecute you, and they will let you break the law right in front of them with zero consequences.
I want to move to another domestic issue, and that is a Hunter Biden trial. This is not a surprise to any sane person, but we got official, official confirmation from law enforcement that yes, in fact, the Hunter Biden laptop is real, which means all of our spies, all the top people at the CIA and the FBI that came out and said that this had all the markings right of Russian disinformation campaign before the last election, they
all knew the laptop was real. They were all lying to the American people, and there seems to be zero accountability for that.
Yeah, look that that is exactly right. So this past week in the Hunter Biden trial, the Biden Department of Justice came in and made the argument to the court that the Hunter Biden laptop was real, that it was accurate, that it had not been been modified, that it had not been altered in any way, shape or form. And actually the media just reported reported matter of fact, ABC, NBCCBS, Washington Post reported that the laptop showed no evidence of
tampering and was both real and authentic. And none of those outlets acknowledged that. For years, and especially in the weeks and months right before the twenty twenty election, they said over and over and over again. First of all, they refused to cover it, but to the extent they did cover it, they said it was Russian interference and Russian disinformation. Now the Biden Justice Department just argue, that's a conspiracy theory.
And yet do you hear anyone calling to.
Calling to accountability, people like Clapper, people like Brennan, people like Leon Panetta, people like Tony Blink and Tony Blincoln. The US Secretary of State led the effort to get fifty one former intelligence officials to sign a letter saying this had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation. Now that was a total lie. It wasn't Russian disinformation. And by the way, oh no, let's not forget this. Let's remind
people why that letter was so important. It was before were president of debate and they needed to get out of jail free. Excuse Yeah, and Biden cited the letter in the debate. He relied on it.
Here. Take a listen, we're going.
To have it's true about Russia, Ukraine, China, other countries, Iraq. If this is true, then he's a corrupt politician, right, So don't give me the stuff about how you're this innocent baby Joe. They're calling you a corrupt politician.
Nobody. I want to stay on the issue of race. We're talking about from hill.
President Trump.
We're talking about race right now, and I do want to stay on the issue of race. President Trump, you have to respond to that.
Look very cool.
Are fifty former national intelligence folks who said that what this he's accusing me of is a Russian plant.
They have said that this has all the care.
Four five former heads of the CIA, both parties say what he's saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it except them his and his good friend Rudi Giolli.
You mean the laptop is now another Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.
You that's exactly what, exactly what this is where he's going.
I want to stay on the issue of race. You have to here we go again with the Russia.
We're going to I will, by the way, how the whole time, the moderators like, we got to move on from this.
We gotta, we got to move on as fast as we can.
We don't get any topic about this. Look, I mean, the the moderators that they might as well wear Biden campaign hats uh and that that that is just where the press is and they're even worse now. But but every word Biden said there was a deliberate lie. And by the way, Hunter Biden knew was an absolute fact the laptop was accurate then, which means either Joe Biden knew as a fact that it was accurate, or if he didn't know, it's because he didn't want to know
it he didn't ask his son. Those are the two options. So he was lying, and he was he was lying because it helped him politically. And and the person who organized that letter was Tony Blincoln. The reward for doing that, Blncoln becomes the US Secretary of state.
That's how important it was.
That letter saved him. I mean, let's be queer.
I don't think he would have been Joe Biden would be president now if it wasn't for that letter.
And and it was a flat out lie. And and you look at the press, all right, take a listen to Leslie Stall when she's interviewing Trump and and and she's making very much the same point.
It's this.
I think it's one of the biggest scandals I've ever seen. And you don't cover it. You want to talk about it because you want to talk about insignificant things.
I'm telling you.
Of course, it can be verified. They found the laptop, Leslie, listen, verified.
What can't be verified? The laptop?
Why you said it?
Even the family hasn't the family on the laptop. He's gone into hiding for five days. He's gone into hiding.
He's prepared for your debate.
Let's take them five days to prepare.
I doubt I did.
Okay, So let's get back to the name I will that. So let's let's just get back to the name calling here. We're gonna move on. We can't talk about it because.
I've got an agenda.
I've got an agenda and and facts can't get in the way. Look, Leslie Stall pretends she's a journalist. That's sixty minutes. That's CBS, and what she's saying it can't be verified as a flat out live of course it could be verified. It's called journalism. But CBS had no interest in doing journalism, nor do they now, you know, if Leslie Stall she said there, well, well they're busy,
they're preparing for the debate. So so you can't expect them to respond to the overwhelming evidence of corruption because you know, let's get back to the name calling. I'm busy attacking you, Donald Trump. So so so don't you bring up anything that that that that Biden is doing. And and you know, look, if if Leslie Stall, if any journalist had a shred of integrity, they would stand up and say I was totally wrong. What I said was false. I didn't do my job, and I apologize.
She's not gonna do that. None of them are. And by the way, the people who have signed this letter, they're not coming back and admitting, Okay, I was completely full of crap and I lied to the American people right before an election, and it influenced the election profoundly.
Not just that James Clapper toad Fox, is that he stands by the letter of the laptop.
You know, the.
Biden intelligence and the Obama intelligence hardcore partisans. Facts have no bearing for them. They are so partisan they will stick to their line no matter what.
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Senator.
One other question I want to ask you about your trip before we wrap things up, is you met with a guy by the names Zelenski. Now, what matters the most to me was was he wearing a suit or was he still wearing the millilitary fatigues.
I just I got to know.
Yeah, No, he was in the military fatigues. That's what he wears every day.
Oh man, I mean back in the good old days when he was meeting with Trump and you guys, he was wearing a suit when he came to ask for money.
Yeah.
Ever since the war started, he's in the fatigues every day, and so he was in kind of an olive green sweatshirt.
So you meet with them, and he's got a bunch more money, a couple, you know, a couple hundred million dollars more two hundred and something I think is is what Biden said during this trip that he was going to give to them again. You guys met with him. What was it like this time and what did he have to say.
So, well, there was a group of Senators that went to D Day for the eightieth anniversary of D Day, went to Normandy, and there were nineteen senators. It was a big, big trip, and there were I think fifty three House members, so it was a significant percentage of the United States Congress. And so Zelenski sat down had a meeting with all the senators and then after that he had a meeting with the House members. So both
sides sat down and met with him. We met in in the historic Talleyrand Hotel, which is this beautiful hotel in Paris that actually the US government now owns. It's no longer a hotel, and it is where the Marshall Plan was signed. And so there's a big room that has gold, you know, gold on the ceiling. It's very elaborate and and it it's a historic, historic meeting space.
So that's where we met and it was a good discussion. Look, Zelensky was there with several of his aides and he was describing what is happening, and he was you know, he is a a wartime leader and listen, there that there are some there are some who are big critics of Zelenski. I don't put myself in that camp. I think he is trying to defend his nation from an invasion, and an invasion from Russian Vladimir Putin is a bad guy.
And so Zelensky is doing what what you would hope any leader when his country is at war is doing, which is trying to defend his country and trying to get help wherever he can get it. And so he's coming in and he's asking for American help, uh, and and he's laying out his goals in the war. And so he laid them out, and then then each of us had the opportunity to ask ask questions. My principal question I asked him, I said, how would you define victory?
What does victory mean? And what is the path to getting there? Look, I want Russia to lose the difficulty, and I got to say that question that I asked. He didn't really answer me on how he would define victory. He has another context, define victory as as Ukraine winning back essentially every square inch of territory that Russia has taken. I understand why Zelensky would say that's victory. If if
you were Zelensky, you'd probably say the same thing. But but that doesn't mean it is in the United States' interest to demand every square inch of territory be taken back. The reason we have an interest in this war is that we want we do not want our enemy Russia to win and get stronger, uh and and instead we want Russia to be weaker so that they're less able to pose a threat to America. They're also, by the way, very very significant resources, in particular rare earth minerals in
Ukraine that are critical for the economy going forward. One of the reasons Russia's invading Ukraine is is to get a stranglehold on those rare earth minerals. We don't want putin to have those those those that would not be good for America.
Uh and and so.
But but you know what was really striking Ben is in the meeting with Zelenski, and we also had a classified meeting with with senior leaders of the Pentagon talking about details of what exactly is happening in the war, where the battles are, where the victories are, where the losses are, and and it was a very interesting and worthwhile briefing.
But but.
The question of what does victory mean? This administration is not asking that question. No Democrat in that room is asking that question. What is victory? And I got to say it, really, you know, when it struck me, it is we went out to lunch two days ago at a little Paris cafe in between meetings, and we're sitting there at lunch talking and I was most of the senators there at the lunch table were Democrats, and they
were all talking about Vietnam. And it struck me looking around the table that they're all baby boomers, They're all children of Vietnam. They all kind of got their start in politics protesting against Vietnam. And look for you and me, I mean, neither of us were alive when Vietnam was a thing. You weren't alive at all. And I was like two when the Vietnam War ended, So I have no memories. Vietnam did not impact my awareness of the world. It was done by the time I was learning about the world.
And so.
I got to say a lot of the boomers, particularly the Democrat boomers, they took the wrong lesson from Vietnam. And I think there are lots of lessons to take from Vietnam, but one of the central ones is that you should have a clear, defined objective that you know what it is that is directly related to your national security that is achievable. You should have a plan to achieve it, and then you should get the hell out.
And Vietnam, we just let it go on and on and on and be a quagmire and just kept pouring money and American soldiers and lives into it without a clear objective that we were willing to use overwhelming force to accomplish. This administration has no objective they can articulate one. They're not even asking that question. That is infuriating.
Yeah, it really is.
Well and again for so many Americans, it's like, what does the end look like? How long could we be in this? And how much money is it going to cost it? The White House has made it clear, and I think it should be an issue in the upcoming debate how long is America going to do this? And how much money could this last? The White House has said,
will be with you forever, no matter what. And that's a lot of cash for a lot of Americans that we're going to be spending on this without their being as some to have described, I think without Like you said, what does victory look like? What does that actually look like? It's a fair question, it should be asked. Don't forget. We do this show Monday, Wednesday and Fridays. Make sure you hit that subscriber auto download button. Please share this
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