Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you as well, and we have got a pack show for you, including some breaking news that deals with the sentencing of Hunter Biden, plus a massive change in narrative from the White House basically now admitting that okay, yes, the President did get involved with the son's business dealings and they were hoping that no one would notice this admission. We noticed it. We're going to play that for you.
Plus a big win on the strategic patroleum reserves, which is going to have a huge impact on this country. Senator, let's first start though with this judge, break this down because this scandal in Delaware on the eve of Hunter Biden's plea deal. He's supposed to be in court at nine o'clock and apparently there could be some people that are sanctioned for misrepresenting to the court what they were doing with Hunter Biden. Break all this down.
Well, we have massive breaking news that broke last night. So this morning at nine am, Hunter Biden is scheduled to appear in federal court and plead guilty to two misdemeanor charges for failure to pay taxes in twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. He is also expected to avoid prosecution on a separate felony gun possession charge of illegally possessing a firearm as a gun user as a drug user.
All of that is scheduled to go down at nine And it's a plea deal that is designed to be a slap on the wrist so that Hunter serves no jail time whatsoever, and that its real purpose, as we've discussed, is to protect Joe Biden from any exposure to Hunter's influence,
selling and corruption. Well, last night a bombshell went off, which is the US District Judge in Delaware, Mary Ellen Norieika, issued an order and the order is directing Hunter Biden's lawyers to show up at nine am this morning and explain why they shouldn't be sanctioned for lying to the court. And let me explain what happened here, because this is a big damn deal and to be honest, I've never
seen anything remotely like it. So the plea hearing this morning, Hunter is expected to come in and plead not guilty. The judge could approve the plea deal today, say okay, plea deal's done. Slap on the wrist, all done, it could be over today. Well, the House of Representatives is dismayed by that. They've seen the hearings on all of the corruption, the hearing the evidence that we've discussed at
length on this podcast. And so the House of Representatives filed an amicus brief with the court, laying out the evidence against Hunter and Joe and the corruption and really making the case that a slap on the wrist is not in the interest of justice. That's pretty unusual. It's not often that a criminal defendant has the House of Representatives of the United States Congress file a brief opposing
their sweet hard deal. What happened next is extraordinary. Apparently, Hunter Biden's lawyers picked up the phone and called the Clerk's office of the Court and pretended to be the lawyers for the House of Representatives. And Hunter Biden's lawyers apparently said, hey, we're the lawyers for the House Representatives. We filed this amicus brief with attachments. Could you withdraw that please? We didn't mean to file that, and the clerk's office apparently did so said okay, if you want
to withdraw that filing, we will. Well, it turns out that at least what the court believes right now as they were lying. And I want to read because late last night the court issued a special order and it's a short order. I'm going to read the order. It's oral order. The Court is in receipt of the party's letters regarding the motion for leave to file an amicus brief. As an initial matter, defendant has not indicated what specific information should be sealed, made any showing as required under
a particular case. In fact, defendant has not filed a formal request with the court to seal anything. The Court will temporarily place the documentuer seal intil the close of business on July twenty sixth, to afford defendant the opportunity to try to make the requisite showing. Should the defendant fail to make that showing, the document will be unsealed
in its entirety. In addition, the Court has reviewed the allegations in mister Katilla's letter that's the lawyer for the House made to the Clerk's office regarding the amicus materials. Mister Katilla asserts that an individual associated with the firm representing defendant Hunter Biden called the Clerk's office pretending to be associated with mister Katillia and requesting the amicus materials be removed from the docket, which the clerk's office did.
The response from defendant's counsel on this issue was that quote, as far as he was aware. The managing attorney from Latham called the clerk's office to note that personal tax information of the defendant had been filed in a non redacted manner and to inquire regarding having the information sealed, and that quote. The clerk took the filing down on their own accord. Defendant's counsel also added that he hoped mister Katila had quote an affidavit from the clerk in
support of his version of the events. The Court has discussed the matter with relevant individuals in the clerk's office that has been informed that the caller, Miss Jessica Bengals, represented that she worked with mister Catilla, in other words, the house's lawyer, and requested the amicus materials be taken down because they contained sensitive grand jury, taxpayer and so security information. Here's the critical language from the court's order
last night. It appears that the caller misrepresented her identity and who she worked for in an attempt to improperly convince the Clerk's office to remove the amicus material from the docket. Therefore, it is hereby ordered that honor before nine pm today on July twenty fifth, counsel for the defendant shall show cause as to why sanctions should not be considered for misrepresentations to the court. Now, Ben I got to say, I've practiced law a lot of years,
just just about thirty nearly thirty years now. I don't know another instance where a lawyer for one party calls the court and pretends to be a lawyer for the other party. Like that just doesn't happen. That's the kind of thing.
Do you get disbarred for that? Minimum? And that I mean, you ruin your career right if you do that, because you're literally calling up and lying about what team you're on in a court case. I would assume that's instant and you're disbarred. You're never gonna practice law again. And is there even the possibility of, like you get charge of the crime for that potentially.
Look, a lawyer is an officer of the court. You have an obligation of candor to the court. You have an obligation of truthfulness to the court. A lawyer lies to a judge at his or her peril. Now I don't know what happened, and we're gonna have a hearing at nine am this morning. I expect there's gonna be some real fireworks. But the DOJ and Hunter Biden's lawyers were hoping this would be a quiet, little plea hearing where we got a plea agreement. Okay, all is good,
slapping the wrist, it's all over. Instead the judges saying, tell me why I should not sanction Hunter Biden's lawyer for lying to me and pretending to be the lawyer for the House of Representatives. That's a big damn deal, and this single handedly could scuttle the plea deal.
Now let's go to the just a normal case. Okay, take hunter Byen out of it. Yeah, take take the fact this is a sweetheart deal and it you can. Now, I think it's very clear you would agree center. This judge knows that this is a sweetheart deal. Would you agree with that? At this point, there's been too much information out there. There's been too much. It's been exposed in the House.
Look, it's too early to say. Okay, we'll see what happens. At the hearing today, we'll see what the judge says. If I were a judge, I would not take this plea deal. A judge doesn't have to take the plea deal. A judge can can press back. It is clear the Biden DOJ wants the plea deal taken because the plea deal is designed to number one, make Hunter Biden the fall guy, but do it in the way that there's zero jail times, the most serious charges have gone away
and that's just a little slap on the wrist. But number two, most critically, this is designed to protect Joe Biden. If this plea deal gets thrown out.
Yeah, what happens next? That was the question I was going to ask you, is if he throws out and says no, I don't accept this, then what happens next in this case? Does that mean that all the other things that they didn't have to deal with now all of a sudden become a reality in.
This No, what would happen if the plea deal is thrown out? So Hunter can withdraw his guilty plea because the guilty plea is based on a plea deal, and the judge could say, try your case. You have brought charges against Hunter Biden. We want to see you try your case, and we're going to impanel a jury and
have a trial. But then at the end of it, the judge can say, I'm going to sentence the defendant if he's found guilty that I'm not going to take the plea deal that I've determined this plea deal is not in the interest of justice. If the judge determines that Hunter Biden's lawyers have lied to the Court of misrepresented, and this order says the judge thinks they have. Now the judge may be mistaken. But what the order says is she went and asked the clerk's office, Hey, what
did the lawyer who called you say? And according to the order she entered, that's what made her enter the order to show cause why Hunter Biden's lawyer should not be sanctioned. I have, in nearly thirty years of practicing law, never seen an order like this. And I got to say, if you're Hunter Biden's lawyers right now, you are freaking out. And if you're the Biden DOJ desperately wanting to protect the big guy, you're freaking out. This is a major development.
Is it just one lawyer that would be sanctioned the one that made the phone call. Or is there a good chance that all the lawyers on the case that knew that this happened. Are they going to be held accountable for this basically in essence, because it would be a strategy that they would have done as a legal team.
It depends on what the facts demonstrate. The lawyer who's most directly on the hook is the lawyer who is accused of lye to the court. And each lawyer is an officer of the court, and you have an ethical obligation to the court, and so that lawyer is the one most directly at risk. But if it turns out other lawyers on Hunter Biden's defense team knew about it, directed her to do this, We're part of the decision to do this, they could all be sanctioned. It depends
on what the facts are. I don't know what the facts are. I'm just reading an order that is a holy crap order.
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at the White House. So the White House has said for a long time, over and over and over again. Joe Biden said, over and over and over again, I've never talked to my son or any of the family members of Biden family members about any of these business dealings. He said that he said during the campaign. Now the White House has changed that narrative. Listen carefully, you'll probably pick it up, and if not, we'll play it a second time for you.
Chairman James Comerce today says that the oversight the Committee excuse me, has evidence that the President in the past communicated directly with foreign business associates of the Sun Hunter Biden many times. Careers of the White House and the President still stand behind his comment that he's never been involved and has never even spoken to his son about his.
So I've been asked this question a million times. The answer is not going to change. The answer remains the same. The president was never in business with his son. I just don't have anything.
Else to add.
Senator, I know you heard it. The narrative's now changed. It used to be I never talked about business with my family. Now it is quote the president was never in business with his son, quote unquote.
So Ben, this is a big deal. You are right that Joe Biden has said over and over and over again, he never talked with Hunter Biden about his business. He never talked with Hunter Biden about his business. The White House has said Joe Biden never talked with Hudder Biden about his business. That was their line. They said it repeatedly. Here's the problem. It is now more and more clear that Joe Biden talked with Hunter Biden and with Hunter
Biden's business associates about his businesses a lot. So for example, Miranda Devine, who's done just fantastic reporting on this entire scandal for The New York Post, she wrote two days ago a story that the headline is Hunter Biden put then VP Dad Joe on the phone with business associates at least two dozen times. Ex partner Devin Archer to testify, and Archer, who was Hunter Biden's former best friend, he was his business partner. They were both on the board
of Barisma together. Apparently Devon Archer is going to testify according to the reporting the New York Post, that Hunter Biden would dialu his father, then Vice president, Joe Biden on speakerphone in the meetings with his overseas business partners. According to testimony expected before Congress this week from Devon Archer,
Here's what James Comer said. We are looking forward very much to hearing from Devon Archer about all the times he has witnessed Joe Biden meeting with Hunter Biden's overseas business partners when he was vice president, including on speakerphone. One such meeting was in Dubai late in the evening of Friday, December fourth, twenty fifteen, after a board meeting of the Ukrainian energy company Barisma, which was paying Hunter
eighty three thousand dollars a month as director. Archer, who was also director, is expected to testify that after dinner with Barisa board at the Bergall Arab hotel. He and Hunter traveled six miles north to the Forest Seasons Resort Dubai at Juriah Beach to have drinks with Hunter's friends.
While they were sitting outside at the bar, Vadim Puzzharski, a senior Borisma executive, phone to ask where they were because Borisma's owner Mikoleos Lootchevsky, who we talked about a lot on Monday's Pod, needed to speak to Hunter urgently. Soon afterwards, the two Ukrainians joined Hunter and Archer at the Four Seasons bar, and Posarski asked, Hunter, can you ring your dad? At the time, it was early afternoon
Friday in Washington, DC. Hunter then called his father, put him on speaker, place the phone on the table, and introduced the Ukrainians to Joe Biden by names as Nikolai and Vadam. He also said words to the effect that the Barisma bigwigs need our support. Joe Biden greeted the Ukrainians, but spoke only in vague pleasantries. Archer is expected to testify. They will note in context that three days after the speakerphone call, Joe Biden was due to fly to Kiev
to address the Ukrainian Parliament. Ten weeks before the call, on September twenty fourth, twenty fifteen, the US ambassador had given a speech about corruption in Ukraine in which he targeted Lotchevsky by name. But by then the Ukrainian prosecutor general, that's Victor Chokin, who we talked about again at length on Monday's podcast that if you didn't listen to Monday's podcast, go back and listen to it. It's incredibly important what
the FD ten twenty three said. But Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Schokin was investigating Barisma for corruption, and a month later Chokin was fired right after Joe Biden threatened to withhold one billion dollars in usaid to Ukraine. So here's the problem, Ben, Joe Biden has said repeatedly, I didn't talk to Hunter about his business. I didn't talk to
Hunter about his business. The White House has said that, And now you've got Hunter's business partners saying, oh yeah, Joe Biden talked to our business partners all the time. That's a huge problem. And so I want you to play two things. Number one, I want us to listen to what the old White House message was which is I didn't talk to Hunter's business partners. Take a listen, it's.
Your vice president.
How many times have you ever spoken to your son about his overseas business dealings.
I've never spoken my son about his overseas pretty.
Sooners, now, that was in twenty nineteen, Senator, that was in Des Moines, Iowa, when he was running for president. And he's saying, I've never I never talked about it ever. Now they're saying, okay, Mane, we did, but we were never officially in business together.
So he said there flat out on the campaign trail for president. This is not a long time ago. This is while he's running for president. He says, I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business deals. Now, his problem is, Devin Archers supposed to say that he's spoken at least two dozen times. So I want you to play again.
Hold on, let me let me also add this real quick, because this is where I just I have to do this because it makes me laugh. It's not just that first time I forgot about this and I just pulled it. We put together a montage of Biden answering this question over and over again, which the White House has just done, done, now good by their new admission. Here's the entire montage, starting back in twenty nineteen.
And how many times have you ever spoken to your son about his overseas business dealings.
I've never spoken my son about his overseas be as sooners. I have never discussed with my son, or my brother or anyone else and being having to do with their businesses, period. And what I will do is the same thing we did in our administration. It'll be an absolute wall between personal and private and the government.
Do you stand by your statement that you did not discuss any of your son's overseas business des large?
Stand by that student.
Do you think it was wrong for him to take that position knowing that it was really because that company wanted access to you. Well, that's not true.
You're saying things you do not know what you're talking about. No one said that.
Who said that?
I mean, that's a lot of time. Just said it, senator, and now you're undoing it at the White House from the podium.
So his answer is, I've never talked to Hunter. I've never talked to Hunter. I've never talked to his business associates. And I want you to play again yesterday's answer because the the beautiful thing is Kareem John Pierre says, I'm going to give you the exact same answer I've given before,
and then she says a totally different answer. So play that once again, because this is a massive shift, because the White House realizes, oh crap, Joe Biden's been caught in a massive lie that implicates him in foreign corruption. So listen to kareein. John Pierre's trying to be very clever and shift their answer.
Chairman James Comer today says at the Oversight Committee, because has evidence that the President in the past communicated directly with foreign business associates of the Sun Hunter Biden many times curios of the White House, and the President still stand behind his comment that he's never been involved and has never even spoken to his son about his.
So I've been asked this question a million times. The answer is not going to change. The answer remains the same. The President was never in business with his son. I just don't have anything else to.
Add there it is, So the ANSWER's not going to change. So if the ANSWER's not going to change, you would expect the President's never spoken to his son about his business deals. The President's never spoken to his business associates about his business deals. But she doesn't say that. She says the president was never in business with his sons.
Now let me show you it gets even worse. There's a subsequent article came out in The Federalist that is entitled Joe Biden allegedly interacted with sons clients more than two hundred times. So you've got the story from the New York Post from Miranda to that Biden spoke with foreign businessmen and potential investors for Hunter at least twenty four times. But the Federalist reports that there are more than one hundred and eighty other episodes where the president
interacted with his son's business partners. So, for example, then President Joe Biden reportedly met with Ukrainian, Russian and Kazakhstan business partners at Cafe Milatta, which is a really shishi restaurant in Washington, d C. Vadim Pushharski, an executive at Barisma, thanked Hunter in writing for the introduction to his father. So here's an email that Pojarski wrote, quote, Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving me
an opportunity to meet your father and spend some time together. Now, by the way, Joe Biden says, no, never talk to my son about business. Post Narski, the Ukrainian Barisa official, says, hey, thanks for introducing me to your dad. Give me the opportunity to meet your father. I mean it is stunning. Visitor's logs show that Hunter Biden's business associates visited the
White House. How many times do you think Hunter Biden's business associates visited the White House while Joe Biden was Vice President?
If you count them all up there, it's countless. I mean, it's not one or two times, and that many of the people got to go like a dozen or more times while he was the vice president.
So according to Fox News, it's at least eighty times.
There you go.
Hunter Biden's diary shows more than one hundred events at the Vice President's resident while Joe Biden was living at the Naval Observatory. Photographs from the same day as one meeting on the calendar November nineteenth, twenty fifteen, features two Mexican billionaires, Carlos Slim and Miguel Alaman Velasco and Hunter spent years leveraging the White House to pursue business deals
with Slim this pattern. Listen. At this point, it is becoming almost impossible to maintain that Hunter Biden was doing anything other than selling not only access to Daddy, but favors from Daddy for millions of dollars. And you want proof of that. Here's a simple question. Why did the White House change their story? Kareem John Pierre said, I'm gonna give you the exact same answer I've given before, and then she gave a totally different answer. She'd said, here's
the exact same answer. Joe Biden's never spoken to Hunter about his business dealings, never spoken to his business associates. That would be the same answer. She didn't do that, she says, Oh, Joe Biden's never been in business with his son. They realize they're in hot water. They are backtracking mightily. And you know what, I'm gonna make a prediction.
I love it when you do this, by the way, because it's always good.
Not a single corporate media outlet will report on this massive shift. ABC is not going to report on it, CBS is not going to report on it, NBC is not going to report on it. CNN's not going to report on it. MSNBC is not going to report on it. The Washington Post is not going to report on it. The New York Times is not going to report on it. They are all covering up for Joe Biden, and I
hope I'm wrong. You know what if if by ten thirty today one of them is so shame they say, holy crap, I'm actually going to be a reporter and report on the fact, just like in Watergate, when when the story starts changing, that's news. Any real journalist will report on that. We'll see if anybody does today.
Yeah, make sure you share this podcast as always on this story, especially because I think we are are the only ones at this point center that A are willing to talk about it. I'm sure others noticed it, but it's been complete crickets since this massive you know, narrative from the White House on Joe Biden's involvement in essence saying yes, he was involved with his son's business stealings,
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national security. And it's something that you let on with a strategic oil reserves, the petroleum reserves that have been rated by this administration to artificially drop the price of gas before the midterm elections, and they don't seem to be wanting to put oil back in our strategical reserves as well. That is a national security issue. But you also did some other things tell us about this victory.
Well, that's exactly right. The strategic petroleum Reserve was established to protect our national security and our energy security, that if we get in a time of warfare, if we get at a time of crisis, that we have oil we could rely on that we won't have our economy grind to a halt. And it's there for emergencies. It's not there to be a slush fund for Democrat presidents to try to cover their rear end an election. Well, Joe Biden last year sold one hundred and eighty million
barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserves. And the reason is he was trying to drive down gasoline prices right before the election. Not because he wants prices low, mind you, Biden wants prices higher and higher and higher. He just wants them to dip right before an election, so he thinks the voters won't notice that. Now, the result of those sales is it pushed the levels in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to the lowest they've ever been
in forty years. And last July, as part of selling thirty nine million barrels from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, the Biden administration sold one million barrels to unipec America, which is a subsidiary of China's Sinopek. And I will point out also that Hudter Biden, our friend who knows how to monetize Daddy, has done business with the Chinese entities that are profiting off of Daddy's sales of oil to
the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. It is corrupt. It's also stupid that we would take our oil there to keep our economy our national security safe and sell it to China, our enemy. So I introduced an amendment to ban the United States government to ban the Biden administration from selling oil from the Strategic Petrol In Reserve to China, to Russia, to Iran, or to North Korea. Basic principle, let's not sell our oil that's here to keep us safe to our enemies that are not there.
To keep us safe.
We forced to vote in the Senate last week. This was an amendment that was authored by me and Joe Manchin, so it was bipartisan. And actually, you know what the lineup was on the amendment. What do you think there were? There were two other senators that were the lead sponsors.
Take a guess. Oh gosh, I'm trying to think here it would be you said Joe Manchin. I'm gonna laugh. Can I throw out a curveball? Yeah?
Mitt Romney, No, but that'd be a good guess. Mitt voted for it.
Yeah. I mean, I was trying to think, you're stump at me here. I was like, all right, I gotta go with a really good name here.
Okay, So I'll give you even better than that. So number one we had Jony Ernst, which is not shocking. Jony's a good friend. We do a lot together and John Fetterman. So this was cruise mansion, Ernst Fetterman.
That's interesting. That's an interesting dinner right there. Y'all should do that.
So we had a vote on it. Do you know what the vote was?
What was it?
Eighty five to fourteen. So we didn't just win, we won by a massive margin, eighty five to fourteen. And so that's now part of the National Defense Authorization Act. When this bill passes into law, which I believe it's going to the Biden administration, will no longer be able to sell oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to China,
or to Russia, or to North Korea or to Iran. Now, fourteen people voted no. The lead Democrat who opposed me is Chris Murphy, very very liberal senator from Connecticut.
And what's the reason for not just him, but the other fourteen to oppose this?
Well, let me give you their own reasoning. So in the last Congress, I went to the Senate floor and I tried to pass this by unanimous consent. And one of the ways you get things passed in the Senate is you can pass it by unanimous consent, where you stand up and if nobody objects it passes, and a lot of stuff gets pass that way. So I went to the Senate floor. I said, look, this is basic common sense. No one should object. Let's pass this. Chris
Murphy from Connecticut came and objected. And one of the things I argued is I said, look, there's a war waging in Ukraine right now. We should not be selling oil to our enemies. If anything, we should be selling to our friends and not enriching our enemies. Chris Murphy countered with Democrat legislation that would prohibit all sales of oil and gas, not just from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, but from any private entity in the United States to
any foreign nation. And the two of us had a debate on the Senate floor where I said, wait a second, I'm standing up saying America should not send oil to our enemies.
Yeah.
The Democrats are countering with we shouldn't sell oil to our friends. We should tell our friends, our allies, no, you can't have any of our oil, and we should our allies. We should force Europe. Sorry, you got to buy from Russia because the idiot Democrats in Washington don't want to sell you Americant oil. So go put money in Putin's coffers. It was truly insane, and yet Chris Murphy doubled down. But I got to say, when we came to a vote, eighty five fourteen is a pretty good margin.
Yeah, that's a big margin. And it's also really an issue, as you just described, of national security. Yes, and this when people that don't understand a national security aspect of this. If we sell our oil to our adversaries and we get well on our stategical reserves, that's a double whammy from us from a national security standpoint.
No, that's exactly right. And China is in the middle of a massing, enormous reservoir of oil precisely because they want to be in a strong national security position. So when the Biden administration is selling oil to China, they are weakening America and helping China. Which is why the Senate overwhelmingly says stop doing that. And I got to say it says a lot that Senate Democrats voted to say Joe Biden stopped doing that.
Yeah, and that shouldn't be very controversial at all. A big win on this one. Congratulations on the leadership also at being bipartisan and It's also amazing that fourteen people would vote against this, but welcome to these strange times in Washington, d C. Senator. One last thing, I just want to tell everybody about this the first time we've ever done this on Verdict, and I want to invite Verdict listeners to join me in the Holy Land Israel.
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