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It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you as well, and we have a lot to talk about on this episode, including Zelensky coming to Washington begging for more money that involves you crave funding, which involves funding at the border, which involves funding with Israel, and if that's not enough for you, we also have an update on impeachment moving its way through the House. Senator, let's go back to the very beginning, and it was a wild day on Capitol Hill. You've got Zelensky who
comes to town, he's asking for money. The thread that we've seen of kind of headlines here from the Democrats is you must stand with them no matter what, forever importuity, Amen, And you can't ask questions about where the money's going or transparency. We've just got to write then this blank check And how dare you Republicans tie this to border security? Give me your initial reaction to that.
Zelensky's coming to Washington yesterday was designed. It's a manifestation of the Democrats not living in reality. Chuck Schumer does not believe that Republicans are serious about securing the border. He's in absolute denial and I got to say, the supplemental bill on Ukraine, the border in Israel, the entire thing is in a stalemate, and I think it is very possible this thing will not pass for a long time because Schumer and the Democrats they're living in an
alternate reality and they're just assuming Republicans will cave. Now, sadly, that is a reasonable assumption in a lot of instances. Senate Republicans in particular, are are pretty quick to cave. I don't think that's going to happen in this instance, and Schumer and the Democrats don't believe it. And so Zelensky came this week to Washington because they're trying to bludgeon Republicans into set saying Ukraine really really really needs the money, rather than Look, there have been a lot
of Republicans. House Republicans have made very clear there will be no Ukraine bill without serious, strong border security. And right now the Democrats are saying, we won't do border security, but give us the Ukraine money. Anyway, that ain't going anywhere.
Yeah, it was also saying that the news Speaker of the House Mike Johnson referred to. He said, look, they basically went silent when referring to negotiations with Republicans on this US border security package. Take a listen to what he had to say on Fox News.
Significant steps that are happening, negotiations still going on. Secretary Mariorcis and others in the administration about changes.
Well, I hope.
So.
Look, I've been crystal clear about this. You know, if we're going to have a national security package of spending, national security begins at our own border. This is about our own sovereignty. That these are policy changes that could be easily made. But the White House has been very reluctant. They really went silent on us all of this time.
I've been the Speaker for a little over six weeks, almost seven weeks, and since the day I was handed the gavel, I've been saying that this was the condition that we had to do this first, and we passed HR two. The House passed our bill six months ago. It's been sitting on the desk of Chuck Schumer ever since. They've not taken it seriously. And here we are at the end of the year, and now they're saying we've run out of time. It's not the House's fault.
Yes, here is Center Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on the timing of all this Sticklers.
They're leaving at the end of the week, so all I have said is practically impossible. Even though we reach an agreement to craft it, get it through the Senate, get it through the House before Christmas, that doesn't mean it's not important. And even though we've been emphasizing the border, I want to remind everybody of the importance of Ukraine.
So just logistically, it would you send the house home and then call them back if there's a deal, or just punt everything to January.
Look, the House will do its work if there was a deal, but it has not materialized, and as of tonight, they have given us the cold shoulders, so they're ignoring this what I believe is the top priority of the American people. It doesn't matter where I've been in the country over the last few weeks, Brett, whether I'm in New York or the southeast or out west, they all say the same thing. They're deeply concerned about what's happening. We had twelve thousand people come over that border one
day last week and Wednesday. If you look at the statistics from October November and so far in December more people have crossed that border illegally since any entire year during the Obama administration. It is not a sustainable situation. It is a harm in our country in ways that are hard to describe, and we have to get on top.
So here's my question.
You hear the Senate majority leader there, obviously, Mitch McConnell, and implying like, hey, there's no deal. So if they think this is going to get done before Christmas, that's just not reality. Then you have this speaker saying the White House went silent on us on border package, and he said the policy change is easily made, but the
White House has been very reluctant to do this. So Redisin behind the scenes, why is it this much of a hell bent answer from the Democrats not to secure a southern border knowing these numbers we talked about twelve thousand coming across just last Wednesday alone.
Because the Democrats right now are in a state of denial, Let's rewind.
A couple of weeks ago.
Two weeks ago, we had a classified briefing in the Senate, had every senator in there.
It was on Ukraine.
It had the Secretary of State, it had the Secretary of Defense, it had the intelligence agencies there, and the entire purpose of the briefing was to say, Ukraine really, really really needs the money.
Now.
On the Republican side, the Republican position for a long time has been this bill will not move without real border security. And so right at the outset, when we got to the questions, most of the briefing questions from the senators, Republicans began to make clear, all right, well where are we on border security? And Chuck Schumer, what
happened is something I've never seen before. There was a screaming match down in the skiff, down in the secure facility where we're having the classified briefing, where senators are screaming at the top of their lungs at each other, and several senators stormed out. I've never seen that. And what precipitated it is Schumer sat back and crossed his arms and he was defiant. He was like, no, we are not doing border security. This is not a part of it. It's not gonna happen. That's not what this
briefing is about. And we're not even going to talk about it. And a whole lot of Republicans got pissed. Now that was the defiance two weeks ago, and Schumer bizarrely believes that that is a reasonable and viable negotiating position. Now, last week David Cameron was in town. David Cameron, you'll remember, it was the former prime of the United Kingdom. He's now the Foreign Minister of the United Kingdom. So he's back in the government. This time he's Foreign Minister instead
of Prime Minister. And so he came to Washington, d c. And often when you have heads of state or senior officials from foreign countries, they will sit down and meet for coffee with the members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. And so I'm on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and so I went to that coffee and so we're sitting it's in a very cool it's a ceremonial room in
the capital, that is the Foreign Relations Committee room. And when we have it there, they put a tablecloth on this table that's, you know, one hundred plus years old, and they serve tea and china. It's it's kind of very old school, and you sit around talking with the head of state or in this case, the British Foreign minister, and he was there talking about Ukraine. He was part of the lobbying effort to say, you gotta get money
to Ukraine, you gotta give money to Ukraine. And I got to the coffee a few minutes late, so I was near the end of the order of the senators who were commenting or speaking, and so I heard senator after senator, mostly Democrats, just saying everything is wonderful and peachy keen, and we're going to vote out more Ukraine funding and it's going to happen. And at one point Bob Menendez, Democrat from New Jersey, he was talking about he mentioned the border briefly and he said, look, the border.
The problem there is there's a lot of poverty in Latin America, and that's really we're never going to fix this until until we cure poverty in Central and South America. So that's what we need to do, is make them rich countries and we won't.
Have that problem.
So it got to me and I said said to Cameron, I said, listen, number one, it's not your job to try to resolve our border security problems. You're here representing the government of the United Kingdom. However, you should know, because you have a distinct interest in knowing this, that right now, this Ukraine bill is going nowhere. It is dead. And the reason you just heard, you just heard a bunch of Democrats blow and smoke up your rear end.
They're just telling you everything is fine. And so I actually relayed the story to Cameron about what had happened the preceding week in the classified briefing, where Schumer had defiantly said we'll do nothing and people had screamed and stormed out, And I said, I said to Cameron, listen, I don't know what is wrong with my Democrat colleagues. But Number one, the chances of a bill that funds Ukraine and doesn't secure the border, the chances of that
passing the House are zero point zero zero percent. There is no way. Mike Johnson's been saying that from the day became speaker.
Zero chance.
And Schumer and the Democrats are just incomplete denial. And I said, let me be clear, I think the chances are exceptionally slim it would pass the Senate. I can tell you the Senate Republican conference is as unified on this issue as I've ever seen it. You played a minute ago the clip from Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell may be the biggest Ukraine hawk among the Republicans. He wants to fund Ukraine. And even Mitch is holding firm on this.
We don't have any defectors on the Republican side. And the bizarre thing is Schumer is just in utter denial, and the other Democrats are as well. And by the way, I pointed out, you know, Menendez said, well, gosh, it's just poverty in Latin America. I said, with all due respect to what Bob said, you know what, there's been poverty in Latin America a long time. That's not the
cause of this crisis. When Biden came into power, he inherited the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years. You know what, there was poverty in Latin America then too. The reason for the crisis is Joe Biden and his administration refused to follow the law. They've implemented catch and release and the numbers of skyrocketed. Nine point six million
ELI legal aliens have crossed under Joe Biden. And what I said at this this coffee with the Senate for Relations Committee, I said, listen, Eric Adams, the liberal Democrat mayor of New York City, says that one hundred and ten thousand illegal immigrants in New York City are a
crisis and they are destroying New York City. Now he's right about that, Yeah, But if one hundred and ten thousand are doing that to New York City, what in the hell do you think nine point six million are doing to Texas and the other states of the southern border. And so I made that point to Cameron. And the bizarre thing is, listen, I had multiple conversations with my Democrat colleagues today. They still believe, oh, we'll reach a deal on this, you know, just some reasonable compromise.
You know.
One one Democrat senator suggested to me, well, well, maybe the White House will agree to reinstate Title forty two. Well, no, forget it. That is not When Title forty two was in place, we still had the worst illegal immigration in history, and they got.
Title forty two. What that was, because some of you may not remember.
So Title forty two was a law that allowed individuals to be sent back because of COVID and so it was the one area where Biden was not practicing catch and release, where there was some limited deportation, and then they ended Title forty two and they decided, okay, everyone gets to stay. Basically the problem that goes right to the heart of this why do we have a border crisis?
Three words, catch and release. Joe Biden unilaterally ended the Remain in Mexico agreement and began when people got apprehended, they release them. As long as we do catch and release, the border will not be secure. And by the way, you could build one hundred foot tall wall and put ten million troops on the southern border. If you did
catch and release, you'd still have a border crisis. Why because when the people crossed and turned themselves into the ten million soldiers, Joe Biden would then release them, so they'd keep coming. It doesn't matter how many border patrol agents or how much military you have, if the administration releases whoever they apprehend because as long as that happens, more and more and more keep coming.
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There was Senator at Raphael Warnock.
He went on MSNBC and made it very clear that he said, you know, this is the Republican's fault, this is Republicans not willing to support Ukraine, and cynically he called it using the border issue. I want you to here two things here that made me laugh. One the hysterical bowing down to Warnock introduction. I can't not play it and that just made me laugh. Welcome to MSNBC, right, And then the second thing is is him trying to go on offense against Republicans with a terrible argument.
Take a listen.
Helpful to have a pastor around, even better if they're also a senator. And joining me now is Senator and Reverend Raphael Warnock and Georgia, senior pastor at Doctor King's Church, Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta. Happy Holidays in advance, Merry Christmas in advanced.
Happy holidays. Great to be with.
You, Thank you.
It is good to see something that's taking the preacher's voice. But I'll do my best.
That's okay, Liotle.
Preacher can always find their voice. That's one thing I know about a pastor. But let's talk about all of the Let's go through a few other things. I want to start with Ukraine. In the House as well as some in the United States Senate, there is this resistance to providing funding for Ukraine, which is still suffering this attack from Russia, trying to trade things like border border policy, border security for funding jd Vance saying basically that Ukraine
should seed land and cut a deal. What in the world is going on on the other side of the aisle.
That's a very good question. I'll tell you that this is politics in the worst sense of the word. There is no replacement for American leadership in the world. I have had occasion now on a few opportunities to hear President Zelensky, to meet him, and I think he's just a very impressive person who is standing up in a critical moment, not only for his country but in terms of the world order. And it's unfortunate that I've got colleagues who are reducing such an important geopolitical crisis to
typical political horse trading. Look, there are issues at the border and they need to be addressed. I for one, am open to any reasonable bipartisan proposal that will get there on the way to what we really need. It's comprehensive immigration reform. But this is one of the most fraught issues in our political system, and so unfortunately not everybody,
not all the Republicans. But on the other side you have some Republicans who are not willing to support Ukraine no matter what, and so they're just using this issue of the border, which is very serious in the most cynical way. I hope that at the end of the day, Kula heads will prevail. Certainly, we don't want to see American soldiers on the ground as Putin continues his aggressive move across Europe. I think it only makes sense for us to support our friends in Ukraine.
Yeah, but by the way, I just have to go to the very end part there when he says, well, it's almost like a weird threat. And this is like the third or fourth time I've heard this this week from Democrats. Well, if you guys don't give the funding, you may see American troops over there.
So you should really give.
This funding because if you don't, then it's your fault that we have to send American troops. That is the most messed up negotiating I've ever seen from Democrats. And I've seen a lot of pretty crappy stuff. You've seen more being in Washington Center. But that's a whole nother level of vile politics that I just don't I can't beliether even trying it.
Well, look, you got to understand that that those comments that that Raphael Warnock made were filled with hypocrisy and sadly with dishonesty. You know, it started right at the beginning by emphasizing that he's a pastor. It's true, although I'll tell you I've never seen a pastor that refuses to say Merry Christmas. That he insists on saying Happy Holidays, because it turns out more important than being a pastor is he's a Democrat and Merry Christmas is not allowed
for Democrats to say. But then when he gets into the substance, he gets very moralistic about American leadership on Ukraine. You know what, Raphael Warnock didn't mention that it was Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer that caused the war in Ukraine when they refuse to vote in favor of my sanctions to Sanctionstream two. I had shut down nord Stream two. I had passed legislation that shut it down. And on the day of the vote, Joe Biden came personally to
Capitol Hill and lobbied the Democrat senators. Now, actually Raphael Warnock voted with me, but forty four Democrats flipped their votes at Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer's behest and voted in favor of Russia and putin and against sanctioning the pipeline. And weeks later Russia invaded Ukraine. So he admitted no
responsibility for his own party in causing this war. He also admitted no responsibility of the Biden administration for funding both sides of this war, for sending billions of dollars to Iran that is used to make drones that Russia is using to kill Ukrainian soldiers that right now Biden is literally funding both sides of the war. He admits no fault there, and Stad he moralizes, and he says on the border he's open to reasonable quote bipartisan solutions.
What Boloney, Raphael Warnock and the rest of the Democrats have voted every single time, over and over and over again in favor of open borders, against anything to secure the border. They have not budged even once. And I will say I will invite Raphael, I will invite any of my Democratic colleagues come with me to the border. See the dead bodies that Texas farmers and ranchers find
every day. Look in the eyes of the children who were being sexually assaulted and brutalized by the human traffickers. Look in the eyes of the women who've been violently raped. Look in the eyes of the parents who've had kids who they've lost to fentanyl and drug overdoses because of the drug traffickers. This is an existential crisis. And you
hear him saying, well, it's just playing politics. Listen. The position of Republicans, quite reasonably is that we're not going to focus on securing Ukraine's border until we secure our own border, because right now, Joe Biden and the Democrats led by Chuck Schumer have an open invitation to Hamas and Hezbeala terrorists to cross our southern order and Ben,
we are living on borrow time. I think it is only a matter of time before we see tragically another major terrorist attack because this administration is doing nothing to prevent terrorists from coming in and they've sat by and allowed nine point six million to come into this country.
You know, the other day, and this is the clip we played a moment ago. There was I think it was when you say twelve thousand, thirteen thousand league immigrants and came across the.
Border for twelve thousand and one.
Yeah, on Wednesday.
When you have twelve thousand people coming across the border in one day, terrorists are not stupid. They understand that that means there's a very good chance that you'll be able to get terrorists in because a lot of the twelve thousand are people that want to be are turning themselves into the discoverment because of all the free stuff they get.
They're not afraid of border patrol.
There's sick and ben That twelve thousand doesn't include the god away. So as concerning as the twelve thousand is, the number that is more concerning are the godaways of the people that run Those are the ones that are likely to be the criminals that are likely to be the terrorists that are on the terror watch list that are the rea that are the gang members, Those are the ones that are really dangerous, and we have no idea.
What we do know, and what this podcast has covered is the border patrol agents have been instructed to be
on guard for Hamas and Hesbela terrorists coming in. What we do know is Chris Ray, the director of the FBI, has suddenly discovered that there's a risk at our southern border and his testimony in Congress has changed dramatically in recent months about the risk of terrorism for the southern border and the only reasonable explanation for that is the FBI is seeing more and more that has them worried about what's coming because this administration won't secure the border.
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And there was one.
Democrat that it actually made me laugh.
He was on CNN. They were talking about that.
At the bottom of the screen it said Russia's war in Ukraine's Lenska in Washington to ask for more aid, and they had on a House Democrat by the name of Representative Multon, and he was actually telling a lot of truth about the Democrats and what their real objective is.
And there's words I want everybody to listen for here.
I want you to listen to how he talks about a pathway his citizenship and how he loves the number of legal immigrants coming across their border. And he's saying, look, I'm not willing to give that up just to give funding to Ukraine, which the Republicans are demanding.
Take a listen.
Notitible to hear from President Zelenski today say that the Ukrainian economy has grown five percent this year, this after and now second year in brutal war with Russia. That obviously sending a message to lawmakers here that their help has been effective and warranted and welcomed. We talk a lot about Republicans not wanting to continue funding Ukraine, at least without getting something in return. The President making clear last week that he is willing to negotiate on border
security and take that issue seriously with more investments. How is that sitting with some members of your own party who may be worried, as has been reported, that he's conceding too much on this front.
Well, here's the concern.
I think there are a lot of members of my Democratic party that recognize we have to do more on the border, that we need to strengthen the border, but we don't want to scuttle what we fundamentally need when it comes to immigration policy in the United States, which is a full immigration deal, a deal that not only includes what Republicans want, which has increased border security, but also what Democrats want, which is a pathway to citizenship
some hope for all the kids, for example, were brought here years ago by their parents and yet are sitting in legal limbo through no fault of their own. They go to American schools, they participate in the American economy, and yet they're not technically legal citizens. The vast majority of Americans, Republicans and Democrats, want a fix for that problem as well, but Republicans in Congress aren't willing to
do it unless it's paired with border security. So the concern is that if the President bargains away what the Republicans want on border security just to get aid on Ukraine. Then it imperils the chances of what we really need on immigration, which is full comprehensive reforms.
And a reminder for our viewers, this isn't just about a to Ukraine. Obviously, this bill includes funding for Israel and Taiwan as well.
All I mean, you just got to laugh, like it's like, all right, Well, at least that guy was willing to tell you the truth.
This is all about pathway. It's a citizenship.
Oh and then we'll get to the issue of funding for Israel at the very end of the conversation, which, by the way, you and I need to talk about in LinkedIn a second.
But give me your reaction to this.
I mean, this is at least a Democrat saying, yeah, we're all in favor of legals come across the border at these rates, and we need to give them a pathway to citizenship, and we're willing to make a trade on that.
You know, there's an old line that a gaff is when a politician tells the truth in Washington, and he just let the cat out of the bag. It's interesting he says, well, it's Republicans that want to secure the border, not us, not us Democrats. You know, Democrats occasionally claim they do. In fact, you just played Warnock claiming he did. But Moulton is emitting, No, we don't care about that. We don't care about that at all. What do we care about amnesty? What do we care about a path
to citizenship? What do we care about turning every illegal alien we can into a Democrat voter? It's only politics, you know. What's striking Seth Moulton as someone who holds himself out as one of the more moderate Democrats, so he typically is not lumped in with the crazies on the left, and even a so called moderate Democrat, he's like, eh,
and we don't care about border security. And by the way, he says he wants hope for the kids, Well, what about hope for the little boys and the little girls who are being brutalized, who are being sexually assaulted today? Right now, today, there are children being assaulted by human traffickers. The Democrats, literally, Ben do not care why there's a political objective, what do they care about? They want citizenship and if a bunch of children have to be violated.
That is a perfectly acceptable price. It is cynical, it is cruel, it is evil, And I've seen too many of these kids. I've looked in their eyes. I talked about on Verdict the last time we were down there, the ten year old girl that had an adult man who claimed to be your father and obviously wasn't. And when you've seen children being abused day after day, you can't turn a blind eye to it. The entire Democrat Party,
that is their position, and they're simply in denial. And right at the end, the CNN host I loved it through it. Well, don't forget this is also about Israel funding without mentioning because of course CNN they're not actual journalists, they are propagandas they are, propaganda's for the left wing of the Democrat Party. You know what she didn't mention.
The House of Representatives passed funding for Israel separate, completely separate from this, and the Senate, as we talked about in length on Verdict on a previous podcast, I and several other Senators forced a vote on the Senate floor to pass Israel funding separate from all of this, and every single Democrat voted no. Chuck Schumer whipped against military fi funding for Israel. And by the way, he did this after several Democrat senators had just come from the
National Mall on the march for Israel. They walked onto the Senate floor and voted against military funding for Israel. And you know part of why they did that because they knew the useful idiots at CNN and at the Washington Post of the New York Times would not report on it. They would tell nobody. So yes, it is true, we don't have military aid to Israel that has passed yet. And the reason is Chuck Schumer and the Democrats blocked it.
And if they hadn't, that bill would have been on Joe Biden's desk weeks ago.
Let's talk about that Israeli funding because this is really important. Obviously, as you mentioned, Democrats said hell no to it. No one, not a single Democrat would go with you guys, What does it look like now moving forward and how desperate
is the need from Israel at this point? It's amazing that Democrats are going all in with Ukraine and the corruption there asking no questions, where as in Israel there's none of those questions that need to be asked, and there's transparency and we know what's going on, and yet they're saying, ah, not so much. And even the White House now is starting to distance themselves from Israel, changing their tune a little bit over the last couple of days, which is is what I expected.
It's also incredibly disheartening.
Well, look, the one word I disagree with that you said there, as you said even the White House. Listen, We've outlined at length on this podcast how this White House is the most anti Israel White House we've ever had. Yeah, joint and Joe Biden, this White House has been undermining Israel from the day Biden was sworn in as president. Repeatedly, and we've outlined from the very first minutes of this attack on October seventh, this White House has been undermining Israel.
Has been urging Israel, do not retaliate, do not attack hamas, do not kill the terrorists from day one. The State Department, the State Department literally tweeted that out on the night of October seventh, while people were still being murdered, while women and children were being raped. The State Department is tweeting out, Israel, do not respond militarily. Do not kill the terrorists, and so, yes, you're right. The White House
doesn't really care about the Israel funding. In fact, we know they don't because if they cared about it, we'd pass it as a free standing bill. It has the votes to pass as a free standing bill. But their only interest on Israel funding is to use it as a sweetener to try to convince Republicans to fund the rest of the Democrats' priorities. And I think that's incredibly cynical. I think it's wrong, and their focus is on Ukraine.
But it's interesting if you want to take away from what we've seen over the last six weeks in Washington, it's the Democrats are much much more committed to open borders than they are to the war in Ukraine, and they're willing to abandon funding for Ukraine in order to keep the tragedy of open borders at our southern border. That is a higher priority for them. And it's incredibly revealing because they self righteously claim otherwise, and look you
look at Wiseelenski came this week. It's Chuck Schumer trying to browbeat Republicans into saying, give us what we want, even though we will do nothing on the border, and I think that has zero chance of success.
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The House Speaker Mike Johnson says the White House is impeding the investigation to President Joe Biden and the next step will be a vote to formalize an impeachment inquiry. This also, as Fox News is reporting the hunter Biden received two hundred and fifty thousand dollars wires originating in Beijing with a beneficiary address listed as Joe Biden's home. This is all about, as the House Oversight Committee put with the Biden's influence pedaling and what they have been doing.
This vote center is a very important vote and it's also going to give Republicans more power. Explain why this vote is in important to happen now.
Well, the House has scheduled the vote today. It is a vote on a resolution formalizing the impeachment inquiry into President Biden. And previously the House had not scheduled that vote because it wasn't clear that they had the votes to pass it. And so Kevin McCarthy when he was Speaker, he didn't schedule it because it looked like the votes weren't there. What Republicans are telling the press at least
is it looks like the votes are there. And so a number of the Republicans who are in blue districts that Biden carried are now moving forward. So, for example, Mike Garcia in California said, quote, there is enough substantiation to move forward and quote the Executive branch made clear they're not going to cooperate with the inquiry unless we
formalize it. So let's formalize it. Another one, Mark Boalinaro, who's a Republican from New York again in a district Biden carried, said quote Congress has every responsibility to provide oversight. There are serious questions of impropriety. The White House and the President have yet to comply with requests for information and subpoenas, adding that he is quote inclined to support
the measure. And another Republican from New York again in a district and in fact the most Democrat leaning district of any Republican, Anthony Desposito, said said that he will vote to authorize the inquiry. And so what we're hearing is the votes are there. It's scheduled for a vote today, and and the resolution directs the House Oversight, Judiciary, and Ways and Means committees to quote continue their ongoing investigations as a part of the existing House of Representatives inquiry
into whether sufficient grounds exist to impeach Biden. And so formally voting this for this is a significant step forward, and I'm glad they're going to do that. I hope they pass it, and we will discuss on the next verdict what happens when the vote happens later today.
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