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Climate Activists Go Rogue, Biden Demands Masks & Big Win Over Terrorists Week In Review

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Speaker 1

Welcome to Verdict Weekend Review. Ben Ferguson with you and each Saturday, we are going to give you some of the best moments of the Verdict podcast with center Ted Cruz from the past week. This week, there are three points that we want to make sure that you hear about that if you missed it, that's where this Weekend Review will come in. Number one, we're gonna be talking about climate change and the new threat of one billion people dying if we don't fix the problem. That's what

Democrats are now threatening you with. Also Joe Biden do as I say, not as I do, mandating that others wear masks, but he's already taken his off after he promised he was gonna wear it, and a huge victory because of Verdict listeners. That deals with the issue of nine to eleven. It is the Weekend Review and it starts right now. Climate change has become obviously an election year issue, at least for the Democrats. You can see it over the last couple of weeks. They're kind of

testing things, they're pushing things here. But now we're finding out how academia deceives people about climate change. And this is something that I think is not just disingenuous, but it's really disgusting. They put out a new report that has actually come out and they say that there's there's a new prediction that one billion deaths will happen from climate change this century, so you better get on board.

Researchers from Canada Australia have published this new study predicting one billion deaths from climate change over the next hundred years, citing a scientific quote consensus.

Speaker 2

The author's analyze.

Speaker 1

They say, one hundred and eighty studies on climate change immortality covering on a one thousand ton rules. So this is a new theory which means for every thousand tons of fossil fuels burn, a person dies. Now this article is published and it contends that a future person, a future person is killed every every time humanity burns to

a thousand tons of fossil carbon. They say, based on that calculation, that burning a trillion tons of fossil carbon will cause two degrees celsius of global warming or ag W, which in turn they say will cause roughly a billion future premature death spread over a period of very roughly one century. I wish they use this type of logic when they were talking about unborn children that are killed. But of course they'll never do that. But this might

be the most ridiculous, fear mongering article. And they say it's a scientific consensus.

Speaker 3

Now, well, look, there is an enormous problem with the politicization of science, and particularly what it concerns climate change, the dishonesty of science. I'm going to make a radical claim right now. I predict with absolute certainty that seven billion people alive today will die in the next one hundred years of clilimate change. Now, mind you, they are a little over seven billion people alive today, and it is a virtual certainty that all of us will die

in the next one hundred years. And whether there was climate change or not, that assertion is unquestionably true.

Speaker 2

It just is.

Speaker 3

Utterly disingenuous to claim it's climate change that will cause it. Let me focus on There was an article that came out on September fifth from guy named Patrick Brown. Now, Patrick Brown is a PhD climate scientist and he is the co director of the Climate and Energy Team at the Breakthrough Institute, and he wrote an article in the

Free Press that I think is really consequential. I want to just read from you the beginning of the article quote, if you've been reading any news about wildfires this summer, from Canada to Europe to Maui, you will surely get the impression that there are mostly the result of climate change. Here's the ap quote climate change keeps making wild fires and smoke worse. Scientists call it the new abnormal. From PBS News Hour quote wildfires driven by climate change are

on the rise. Spain must do more to prepare, experts say, And from The New York Times, how climate changed turn lush Hawaii into a tinder box? And from Bloomberg quote, Maui fires show climate change's ugly reach. Now here's doctor Brown continuing from this quote. I am a climate scientist, and while climate change is an important factor affecting wildfires over many parts of the world, it isn't close to the only factor that deserves our sole focus. So why

does the press focus so intently on climate change? Is the root cause? Perhaps for the same reasons I just did in an an academic paper about wildfires in Nature, one of the world's most prestigious journals. It fits a simple storyline that rewards the person telling it. The paper I just published, climate warming increases extreme daily wildfire growth risk in California focuses exclusively on how climate change has

affected extreme wildfire behavior. I knew not to try to quantify key aspects other than climate change in my research because it would dilute the story that prestigious journals like Nature and its rival Science want to tell. This matters because it is critically important for scientists to be published

in high profile journals. In many ways, they are the gatekeepers for career success in academia, and the editors of these journals have made it abundantly clear, both by what they publish and what they reject, that they want climate papers that support certain pre approved narratives, even when those narratives come at the expense of broader knowledge for society.

To put it bluntly, climate science has become less about understanding the complexities of the world and more about serving as a kind of Cassandra, urgently warning the public about the dangers of climate change. However understandable this instinct may be, it distorts a great deal of climate science research, misinforms the public, and most importantly, makes practical solutions more difficult

to achieve. This is a stunning indictment of the machinery and apparatus around quote unquote science today, the journals publish quote unquote research that echoes the pre approved political orthodoxy they want published, and if you don't echo that, they don't publish you. And it is one of the many really corrupt aspects of how science and climate change reporting and academic work is really doing a disservice to the American people.

Speaker 1

When you look at not only the fact that this is how you get the money. And I do think it's an issue of follow the money as you just describe it. Certainly it's an indoctrination on college campuses and among researchers, and the cash flow is if you believe in this, we will fund you. But when you make these outlateist claims and then you treat them as fact, there's nothing you can do to debate this with them.

When you look at what they said here, they said this is a scientific consensus, and the authors say they analyze one hundred and eighty studies, all of them, I'm sure were studies that were funded by radical left and global warming activists, right, those that raise money, etc. But when they come out and say that, you know, we're gonna lose a billion people. You make it sound that bad. Is there any way to overcome that with anything else

but this propaganda? And I think that's why they make these outlangeous claims.

Speaker 3

Well, it's why we need people in colleges and universities and think tanks, in the academic world and in the scientific world to reject politicized science. Let me read a little more from doctor Brown. Doctor Brown says quote. So in my recent Nature paper, which I authored with seven others, I focused narrowly on the influence of climate change on extreme wildfire behavior. Make no mistake that influence is very real.

But there are also other factors that can be just as or more important, such as poor forest management and the increasing number of people who start wildfires, either accidentally or purposely. A startling fact, over eighty percent of wildfires in the US are ignited by humans. I want to repeat that sentence because the corporate media will never say it. A startling fact, over eighty percent of wildfires in the US are ignited by humans. Now here's what doctor Brown

continues to say. In my paper, we didn't bother to study the influence of these other obviously relevant factors, did I know that including them would make for a more realistic and useful analysis. I did, but I also knew that it would detract from the clean narratives centered on the negative impact of climate change, and thus decrease the odds that the paper would pass Muster with Natures editors

and reviewers. This type of framing with the influence of climate change unrealistically considered n isolation is the norm for high profile research papers. For example, in another recent influential Nature paper, scientists calculated that the two largest climate change impacts on society are deaths related to extreme heat and damage to agriculture. However, the authors never mentioned that climate change is not the dominant driver for either one of

these impacts. Heat related deaths have been declining and crop yields have been increasing for decades despite climate change. To acknowledge this would imply that the world has succeeded in some areas despite climate change, which the thinking goes, would undermine the motivation for emissions reductions. This is a narrative of so called scientific inquiry scientific journals academic journals that

have abandoned the mission of science. Science is about examining evidence following the scientific method beginning with a hypothesis, looking to evidence to disprove that hypothesis, and determining what's happening today. An enormous amount of science is simply politics covered in scientific garb, and in no places that more profound than in the world of climate change, where there are billions of dollars connected to so called scientists telling the preferred

political narrative. Facts be damned.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it is no longer about facts, certainly an academya where it's supposed to be about that. Now it's about propaganda and indoctrinating people to this while they all find their private jets to climate change events, which I still laugh at the hypocrisy of that. Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, you can go back and listen to the full podcast from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, Senator, I also want to deal with COVID. We were talking about the lies and

they seem to be coming back. Now the White House now letting everybody know that Joe Biden is going to start wearing a mask indoors this after Joe Biden has come down with COVID. Even though Joe Biden has tested negative for COVID yesterday and the day before the day before that.

Speaker 4

President Biden tested negative last night for COVID nineteen and tested negative again today. He's not experiencing any symptoms as far as the steps he's taking. Since the President was with the First Lady yesterday. He will be masking while indoors and around people in alignment with CDC guidance, and as has been the practice in the past, the President will remove his mask when sufficiently distanced from others indoors and while outside as well.

Speaker 1

Now the funny part is Senator. This is said from the punium at the White House. Moments later, the President is on stage and ceremony. He's not the appropriate distance of the White House, says is appropriate from other people, and then he takes his mask off that they just said to everybody's gonna be wearing if he's in closed quarters with a lot of different people. And you add that in with a DC area elementary school Montgomery County,

Maryland is now reinstating a mass mandate. And the mass mandate isn't just for those little masks, No, No, n ninety five masks for all their third graders because a few kids tested positive for COVID. They send out a letter telling parents that these masks, these IN ninety five masks.

Speaker 2

Are going to be mandated in class.

Speaker 1

These masks, they they have been distributed, and students and staff and identified classes and or activities will be required to mask while in school for at least the next ten days, except of course, while eating and drinking, and the mask will become optional, they claim. After the quote outbreak has dissipated, here it is mass mandates coming back.

Speaker 3

Look, this is utterly absurd. Mass mandates are wrong. And for the Left, this has become a it's a combination of a number of things. Number one, it's an article of faith. Number two, it's a virtue signal. It shows just how self righteous they think they are. You know, as I was walking down the halls of the Capitol today, one very prominent Democrat senator was walking along with his N ninety five mask, and behind him was his staffer wearing his N ninety five mask. And it shows virtue.

But number three, it's about control. And this is all about controlling people. Whether it's mask mandates, whether it's vaccine mandates, whether it's having the four hundred and thirty seventh booster. Enough is enough is enough. This is crap and no look I recognize. And by the way, a year from now we are going to see the most deadly COVID

variant ever seen, the election variant. And before the election, it's they're going to need to shut everything down because they want to have mail in balloting for everyone because they think it helps elect demots. Enough is enough is enough. If you want to wear a damn mask, fine, but don't be a hypocrite and don't try to force other people to. And all right, listen. So many of the people who listen to this podcast are conservatives, but some

are not. Some are open minded. Someone to hear both sides. So maybe you think, all right, I'm not going to trust crews. I'm not going to trust Ferguson on this.

Speaker 2

All right.

Speaker 3

If you don't trust me, listen to CNN Left Wing CNN confronting doctor Fauci this past weekend about his false claims about masks. Give a listen.

Speaker 5

There is a perception out there by many how many I don't know, that they don't work, and that the data concludes that they didn't work in the first go round.

Speaker 2

Respond to that on masks. Yeah, well that's not so.

Speaker 6

I mean, when you're talking about at the population level, that the data are less strong than knowing that if you look on a situation as an individual themselves or protecting them from spreading it, there's no doubt that masks work. Different studies give different percentages of advantage of wearing it, but there's no doubt that the weight of the studies, and there have been many studies indicate the benefit of wearing masks.

Speaker 5

I'm going to refer to one of them. You've heard about it before. I heard about it from a number of radio callers. Brett Stevens in The Times talked about Cochrane put that on the screen. The most rigorous and comprehensive analysis of scientific studies conducted on the efficacy of masks for reducing the spread of respiratory illness, including COVID nineteen, was published last month. Its conclusions, said Tom Jefferson, the

Oxford epidemiologist who is the lead author, were unambiguous. There is just no evidence that they masks make any difference, he told the journalist Mayen de Maasi.

Speaker 2

Full stop. But wait, hold on, what about the N ninety.

Speaker 5

Five masks As opposed to the lower quality surgical or cloth masks.

Speaker 2

Makes no difference, none of it.

Speaker 5

He said, Well, what about the studies that initially persuaded policymakers to impose mass mandates? They were convinced by non randomized studies, flawed observational studies. How do we get beyond that finding of that particular review.

Speaker 6

Yeah, but there are other studies, Michael, that show at an individual level, for individual, when you're talking about the effect on the epidemic or the pandemic as a whole, the data are less strong. But when you talk about as an individual basis of someone protecting themselves or protecting themselves from spreading it to others, there's no doubt that there are many studies that show that there is an advantage.

When you took at the broad population level, like the Cockman study, the data are less firm with regard to the effect on the overall pandemic, But we're.

Speaker 2

Not talking about that.

Speaker 6

We're talking about an individual's effect on their own safety. That's a bit different than the broad population level.

Speaker 1

I mean, you hear there and even he's being questioned fauci by a guy who's not conservative at CNN and it's for kind and she's like, well, hold on, I'll read for you what they say. And yet Fauci is still siteing their center saying no, no, these things work.

Speaker 2

You're somehow still wrong.

Speaker 3

Well, look two things. Number one, Fauci himself knows what he's saying is wrong. And if you go back to the beginning of COVID February fifth, twenty twenty, Sylvia Burwell, who was the Secretary of Health and Human Services for three years under Barack Obama, emailed Fauci and asks asks if she should wear a mask. And by the way, his whole defense was well individually, it makes sense, just not for society. Here's what Fauci wrote on February fifth

of twenty twenty. Quote. Masks are not are really for infected people to prevent them from spreading infection to people who are not infected, rather than protecting uninfected people from acquiring infection. Fauci continues, the typical mask you buying the drug store is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through material. It might, however,

provide some slight benefit to keep out gross droplets. If someone costs or sneezes on you, and he added, quote, I do not recommend that you wear a mask, particularly since you are going to a very low risk location. That's what he said in twenty twenty. Then he decided that it was politically beneficial to mandate that everyone had to wear a mask. And yet now look the second point I'd make, the fact that CNN is turning on this in the height of the pandemic. The words that

you just played from CNN, they would not utter. There was no brooking descent from whatever Saint Fauci said. Whatever the mandate was, mask today, not mask tomorrow, mass the next day, you couldn't disagree. The fact that even CNN is turning, I think is significant. I think if the Biden administration tries another round of shutdown and mask mandates, I think a lot of the country is going to say no, and hell no. I'll tell you the state of Texas has zero interest in shutting down.

Speaker 5

And I.

Speaker 3

Think you're going to see resistance not just in Texas but all over the country.

Speaker 2

Yeah. I think you're right.

Speaker 1

And the other thing that worries many people is this the president and this idea that we could go back into some sort of government shutdown There was that awkward interview that he did with Kamala Harris, far away from the social distancing back in the early days of COVID and his administration, sitting next to you know, far away from David Muiror's interviewing them in a weird triangle, and he said he would have no problem if the scientist told him to shut down our entire economy.

Speaker 7

I would be prepared to do what ever it takes to save lives, because we cannot get the country moving until we control the virus. That is the fundamental flaw of this administration thinking to begin with. In order to keep the country running and moving and the economy growing and people employed, you have to fix the virus.

Speaker 2

You have to deal with the virus.

Speaker 3

So if the scientists say shut it down.

Speaker 2

I would shut it down.

Speaker 7

I would listen to the scientist.

Speaker 1

I mean, that's apparently still on the table. And if they bring the mass back where I mean, how far away are we from having another fall where they start shutting things down?

Speaker 2

And what should the American people do?

Speaker 3

Look, the Democrats want to shut it down. They want to impose mandates. And I got to say, one of the biggest lies of that exchange is I would listen to the scientists. The only scientists that he listens to are the ones who say what he wants to hear. You know, the very last podcast we did, we did a two part episode with an interview with doctor Phil

and one of the interesting things look. Doctor Phil has been the number one ranked daytime TV host for a decade, and he talked about how the data are that the school shutdowns from COVID cost many, many more lives than the virus would have cost. Another ords. Listen to the scientists. The Democrats aren't listening to the scientists because if they did, they'd look at the harm from the shutdowns. They look at the harm for businesses shut down. They'd look at

the harm from churches shutdown. They'd look at the harm from school shut down, the kids who face learning loss for the rest of their life. They look at the mental health numbers that have gone up. They'd look at the kids who didn't go to school and didn't have physical wellness checks, didn't have mental health checks, didn't have daily food because for low income kids, for many of them,

their principal source of food is at school. They didn't have the counselors who could observe whether kids are subject to physical abuse or sexual abuse, because when they shut down schools, they sent them at home and the data. What doctor Phil told us that if you didn't listen to those two podcasts, you got to go back and listen to them. But what doctor Phil said on this podcast was that the data show that many, many more lives were lost because of the shutdowns. But the Democrats

don't want to listen to the scientists. They have a political agenda, so they'll cherry pick whatever scientists repeat the politically favored outcome that support the result they want.

Speaker 1

Anyway, Centaur, last question for you, what do you think states should be doing? Because Texas has banned the mass mandate since COVID restrictions are being imposed in other states. There was a Newsweek headline, this is a ban on COVID nineteen restrictions and imposed a mandate to wear face mask in public spaces when to affect in Texas after a number of institutions across the US reinstaid the policy do to a rise in new infections fueled by the emergence of two.

Speaker 2

New variants of the virus. Now that's the GISTs of this.

Speaker 1

But Texas is saying, hey, we're going to stand up to this type of insanity. Do other people need to be calling their legislators and asking for the same thing.

Speaker 3

Look, absolutely yes, Listen. States need to embrace common sense. States need to defend liberty. States need to defend individual choice. If someone wants to wear a mask, knock yourself out. You can still You know, I flew from Texas to DC today there were still a hand full of people in the airport that choose to wear a mask. Okay, if you want to wear a mask, that's fine, you got an individual choice. You can wear a ski mask if you want. That's your choice. But government shouldn't be

forcing people to wear a mask. Airlines shouldn't be forcing people to make wear a mask, airport shouldn't be forcing people to wear a mask. Restaurants shouldn't be forcing people to wear a mask. Nobody should be forcing anyone to wear a mask. And even more so, governors and states need to say not just no, but hell no to the shutdowns. We will look back in the future. Years in the future, we will look back and say, what in the hell did America do? Shutting much of the

country down for a year or more. Many parts of the country, almost all Democrat parts of the country, shut businesses down, shut churches down, shut schools down, many schools. Tens of millions of kids were out of school for over a year, and the consequence was cataclysmic. It is, without exaggeration, the most catastrophic public policy decision of our lifetimes. And so states need to say we're not going down that road again. No, we're not gonna do it. Look,

you know the school shutdowns were bad. When Randy Weinngarten, the head of one of the big teachers unions, is now suddenly claiming I wasn't for school shutdowns, despite the fact that she fought relentlessly for school shutdowns and caused Democratic politicians to jump on a string when she demanded it. Now even she's running away from it. States need to

stand up and say we're not shutting anything down. Look, if there's another public health crisis, and at some point there will be, protect people who are vulnerable, work to provide treatment options, give people advice on how to keep safe, but respect their individual liberty, and don't engage in arbitrary shutdowns and mandates. The mandates are wrong say no to the mandates as before.

Speaker 1

If you want to hear the rest of this conversation on this time, you can go back and download the podcasts from early this week to hear the entire thing. I want to get back to the big story number three of the week. You may have missed. The listeners did an amazing job of sharing. It was one of the biggest podcasts I think we've ever done together, and

it dealt with the issue of nine to eleven. You issued a statement afterwards and that also went viral, and you have a new statement and update I want you to tell you about tonight. This goes back to that letter that the doj or I should say, the d sent out to families victims of nine to eleven, and they were letting them know and a heads up that we were probably going to do a plea deal with Khalead shak Muhammad, and I think it was three or

four other terrorists at Guantanamo Bay Khalead shake Mohammad. We went through the history of who he is the mastermind of nine to eleven, but also killed many other people and many other attacks around the world, innocent children, women, et cetera. And they were going to do a deal to spare him the death penalty so we could get him out of Gitmo and then close down Getmo. That's the ultimate goal for the DoD and the Biden administration.

We now have an update because of the outrage of so many listeners of this show and others and that story going viral.

Speaker 2

It looks like they're not going to get away with it.

Speaker 3

That's exactly right, and I would to take a minute to thank the listeners a verdict because I actually think you guys made a real difference in something that matters enormously in this country, which is as we discussed on this podcast, the Biden administration sent out letters to the families of the victims who were murdered on September eleventh and said, hey, we're contemplating a plea deal where Khaled Shigmuhammad and other conspirators behind the mass murder on September

eleventh would be spared the death penalty. They'd give it life in prison. They would be exempted from capital punishment. Despite the fact that they committed an active war, despite the fact that they killed nearly three thousand people, We'd spare them. And you know, when they sent this letter. It was initially getting almost no press coverage. No one

was covering it, no one was discussing it. ABC didn't discuss it at the six o'clock news, NBC didn't discuss at CBS didn't discuss at CNN didn't discuss at MSNBC didn't discuss it. The entire corporate media ignored it. You and I were so outraged by it that we sat down to do our pod and we actually had three topics.

This was topic number one. We had two other topics, and we ended up deciding, you know what, the entire podcast is going to focus on this issue on September eleventh, on the horrific terrorist attack that came after America, on what it meant, and on the outrage listen the Biden administration and we talked about in that podcast. And by the way, you got to go back and listen to

that podcast. You can go back and find we did a full podcast on this September eleventh effort of the Biden administration to spare the mastermind of September eleventh, but I believe this is part and parcel of the Biden administration's effort to essentially abolish the federal death penalty, and before Joe Biden leaves the White House, I think he is going to pardon or commute the sentences of every single federal death penalty prisoner, including the racist lunatic who

murdered nine African Americans at the Mother Emmanuel Church in Charleston, South Carolina, including multiple vicious terrorists and murderers. But as a result of this podcast, we focused the entire thirty minutes of the pod on the facts behind it, and we asked you. We said, if you're outraged, pick up the phone, call your house member, call your senator, call the White House, and say do not spare the September

eleventh mastermind. Well, we were about the only people shining a light on this, and it ended up people got worked up, which is good. They should have been worked up. We were worked up. It was wrong, it was outrageous, it was astonishing what they're doing. Well, I got to say. On Wednesday, the administration came out and announce that it was not going to accept the Plea deal. And here's

what prosecutors said in the filing quote. The Administration declined to declines to accept the terms of the proposed joint Policy principles offered by the accused of the Military Commission's case, United States versus Mohammed at all. And so I think that is a real victory verdict listeners ought to feel proud of.

Speaker 2

Now.

Speaker 3

To be clear, the Biden administration gave themselves some wiggle rooms so they may go back and take the deal, but they at least filed a court pleading saying they're rejecting the deal. That's a major victory. It was only the political pressure that came, and that political pressure was generated in very significant respect by the listeners of this podcast. But my view is the bastards that attacked America, that murdered nearly three thousand Americans, they ought to be prosecuted.

They ought to be sentenced to death, and they ought to be executed because I think it's a matter of justice that people that committed horrific terrorist attacks on America they should face the ultimate punishment. But the only way we'll be sure that happens is if the American people hold this administration to account and if they're too embarrassed and ashamed to let these guys off.

Speaker 1

My next question for you is this, is this just a pause and delay strategy, Senator, And do we have to keep monitoring them or does this put this to bed, especially for the victims and the families that were affected by nine to eleven. They got these these you know, I would say horrific letters to the Department of Defense saying that they may spare these guys' lives after these men and did all that they did to kill their family members.

Speaker 3

Well, we don't know entirely. What we know is that the prisoners not only wanted to be spared the death penalty, but they wanted the Department of Defense to accept a guarantee that they would not serve their sentences in solitary confinement and that would allow them to eat and pray with other prisoners in Guantanamo Bay. They also wanted a civilian run program to treat brain disorders, to treat sleep disorders, and to treat gastro intestinal damage that they say the

CIA caused during investigations. That's the demand the Biden administration turned down. There is a tiny bit of wiggle room that they could come back and say, Okay, we're not going to give you those concessions, but we are going to take the death penalty off the table. And one of the key reasons I think there are two things going on in the Biden administration. One, these left wing radicals or ideologically opposed the death penalty. They don't want

anyone executed. Ever, they want to essentially repeal the federal death penalty. Now. They don't want to go through the constitutional process of supporting legislation and Congress trying to get the votes and repealing it as a matter of law. They just want to say, we the executive branch are going to refuse to enforce the death penalty and in fact, are going to commute or pardon anyone convicted of the

most egregious offenses in the country. I think a second objective, and again we talked about this at length on the prior pod on this topic, is they want to close Guantanamo and listen. When it comes to foreign policy, the Biden administration is a press release administration. In other words, they don't follow coherent foreign policy objectives. They don't have a strategic vision for defending this nation. Instead, they want a simple press release that lets them at their moral virtue.

So in Afghanistan, you know, you ask yourself, why was the surrender to the Taliban the withdrawal from Afghanistan so utterly incompetent such a disaster. A big part of the reason is the Biden White House viewed as hey, we want to be out of there by September eleventh, because then we can show how virtuous we are that we

withdrew from the war by September eleventh. The problem is when the military said, Okay, if we leave that early, we need sufficient troops to maintain Bogram Air Force Base and also maintain Kabbal Airport, and the Biden White House said, nope, nope, we don't care. Pull them out abandoned Bogram Air Force Base. We don't need a secure airfield. We haven't evacuated anyone. We haven't evacuated Americans, we haven't evacuated the Afghans who assisted us. But we have a press release to issue,

So ignore the national security imperatives. Let's issue our press release. I think in the case of GETMO, their objective is the same. They want to press release, say we are closing GITTMO. In order to do that, they've got to remove the most dangerous terrorists from GITTMO. In order to do that, they have to send them to prisons in the continental United States, and in order to do that, they either have to get a conviction or get a

plea deal. And so I think part of the reason they want the plea deal is to shut Gitmo because they get a good press release from it. But I think the listeners of Verdicts and millions of Americans stood up and said no and hell no.

Speaker 1

As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with senter Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal with my podcast, and you can listen to my podcast every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each day when you listen to Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love to have you as a listener to again, Ben Ferguson Podcasts, and we will see you back here on Monday morning.

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