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Border Chaos: LIVE from the Border...14 Minutes after Title 42 Expires-with Border Patrol Union President Brandon Judd

May 15, 202341 minEp. 230
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Speaker 1

Welcome.

Speaker 2

It is verdict to with Senator Ted Cruz. We are doing this podcast after midnight.

Speaker 1

Senator, you're at the border.

Speaker 2

You are there where Title forty two has literally just expired. What does this mean for the country and what have you seen today?

Speaker 3

Well, Ben, you and I are recording this. It is right now twelve fourteen am Friday morning. Title forty two expired at midnight, So for fourteen minutes, the last legal authority the Biden administration was using to deport illegal aliens is no longer in effect. From the first day of the Biden presidency until today, we've seen over six and a half million people cross into this country, the worst

illegal immigration in the history of our country. As of right now, it is about to get much much worse. And so I flew down this afternoon Thursday afternoon and came to the southern border with three other senators, with Roger Marshall, with John Hoven and Ted Budd and the four of us wanted to see firsthand what is happening here.

We wanted to be here for the expiration of Title forty two to let the American people know what is happening and that the Biden administration wants this absolute catastrophe to unfold.

Speaker 2

It is truly shocking to watch the images that so many Americans saw, and we'll see over the weekend of the drone footage if you've been watching Fox News channel of tens of thousands of people waiting to come across the border. And there was a warning that was given, advice that was given not only to the Biden administration by Border Patrol, but we actually have a guest with us tonight that warrened Biden administration that this was going

to happen. And the Biden transition team clearly said, no, no, no, we don't care about the chaos and the anarchy.

Speaker 1

We want this by design.

Speaker 4

Well, that's exactly right.

Speaker 3

And so tonight, Ben, you and I are joined by someone who has become a very good friend of mine, Brandon Judd. Brandon is the president of the National Border Patrol Council. That is the union, the national union for the men and women of the Border Patrol all across this country. And I have spent hundreds of hours with Brandon and with the heroes of the Border Patrol. I've been blessed to go out with them repeatedly on midnight patrol down on the border. I've been been with them

at midnight muster. I've been with them as they're processing this deluge of illegal immigrants. I've been with them to encourage those heroes while they have political superiors who undermine them, who belittle them, who insult them, and who deliberately prevent

them from doing their jobs. And I have to say it is a miracle that they continue to show up to work every day to protect this country, even while facing a president and an administration that is doing everything it can to make it impossible for them to succeed at their task.

Speaker 2

Brendan, I got to ask you about the warning and the advice that you gave to the Biden administration. You gave advice, You told the Biden transition team before even Biden took office what they need to do to keep

a secure border. You represent, obviously as the president of National Border Patrol Council border patrol agents who right now, God bless all of you for what you do, because I can't imagine going to work every day knowing that the administration is working against you the way that they are right now.

Speaker 1

But what did you tell them?

Speaker 2

And you knew this day would come, and this hour would come, and this moment would come if they did and put in place the policies that they have now put on all.

Speaker 4

Of us, not just once.

Speaker 5

I sat down with the transition team three separate times to discuss the issues that we face on the border, to discuss what could be done to keep the American people safe. And that's what border security is all about. We've got to keep the American people.

Speaker 3

Scar Brandon, this was not just the Trump transition team, although you sat down with him as well.

Speaker 4

I talk to I was on the Trump transition.

Speaker 3

You were on the Trump transition team. But when Joe Biden came in, you sat I did with them. I did, and you tried to help them not have this disaster.

Speaker 5

I did the best that I could. I didn't vote for Joe Biden. I don't like Joe Biden, and I didn't like him as the Senator. I didn't like him as as the Vice president. But I did want him to succeed as the President of the United States, because if he succeeds, the American people succeed.

Speaker 4

That's all I cared about. And so I sat down with the transition team.

Speaker 5

I sat down with him three separate times, and we went over in depth what needs to be done on the border secure to secure the border, and we even stayed within the parameters that that Biden game on the campaign trail. It's not like we offered them up radical ideas. It's not like we were telling them stick with the Trump policies, although I would have loved to have stuck with those policies. We work within their parameters and they still rejected it, which clearly showed to me that they

didn't care about securing the border. They didn't care about the American people who they're supposed to be protecting, and so it was really disgusting to me. And not only did I sit down with the transition team, I actually spoke with Secretary of my Orchis prior to his confirmation and discussed the issues with him as well. And so when you look at this, it's not like they can claim that they didn't know. It's not like they can say we didn't know what we needed to do. They

know exactly what they need to do. They knew what they needed to do, and so you have to ask yourself, are they doing this on purpose? And I think that the only answer is yes, they are. They are doing this on purpose. They are pandering to open border activists.

Speaker 4

Look at the West Wing, Look at the West Wing.

Speaker 5

All of the political appointees in the West they come from activist backgrounds. Look at the Look at the political appointees in DHS. They come from activist backgrounds. So now you have activists that are running legitimate law enforcement agency.

Speaker 3

Brandon, you were with me when when I brought down nineteen senators to the boarder and we went in to the Biden cages, to the tent city at Donna, and there the Biden administration refused to let TV cameras in. They refused to let Fox News in, They refused to let ABC News in because they said that the that

the cameraman might have COVID. Now, mind you, these these these Biden cages were packed wall to wall and as your recall, and Brandon, you'll recall well, because you were standing there, I pulled out my cell phone and I began taking pictures and recording it. And the Biden DHS had sent they'd sent this little political operative who jumped in front of the camera and tried to block me.

And she was she was the right hand to to to the head of CBP, and her job was prevent the American people from seeing the disaster they were creating. And so, you know, I kind of laughed and said, well, you're about to make yourself famous. And I think that that video that I took on my cell phone because they wouldn't let news cameras in, it ran on just about every news station.

Speaker 4

It did, It did, and it showed.

Speaker 3

And at one point she was yelling at me, respect these people, respect these their dignity, and I said, you respect these people. You're the one that have locked them up in cages like animals and you leave. They were stacked. You saw children shoulder to shoulder, lying on the floor on mats with with silver reflective blankets. There was a rate of COVID positivity among the kids that was through

the roof. And the Biden policies kept having thousands upon thousands and ultimately millions of people coming.

Speaker 5

As a federal employee as a border patrol asis and that was one of the funniest things I had ever seen in my career. It was absolutely great to see this little political appointed, this little activist just absolutely lose her mind. And that goes back to the problem that we're dealing with this administration.

Speaker 4

We all want to have an honest conversation.

Speaker 5

When I say we all want to the honest people want to have a conversation so the American people understand what's going on. I don't care if the American people agree with me. I don't care if they come back.

Speaker 4

And say that you know I'm wrong.

Speaker 5

All I want is I want them to have all of the information. I want them to be able to make an informed opinion upon all of the evidence, not just the rhetoric that comes out of the White House. And if we have that honest conversation, I am absolutely convinced that the American people will agree that the border needs to be secured. And I am absolutely convinced that they will blame what is currently going on on the border on this administration, and that they will know that

this administration is actually killing American citizens. Fentanyl poisoning is taking place. Seventy thousand US citizens are losing their lives every year to fentanyl poisoning. And it's all because the Biden administration does not allow us to go after the cartels.

Speaker 4

They're enriching the cartels.

Speaker 3

Brandon, how frustrated are border patrol agents right now. Give me the real sentiment of the men and women on the front.

Speaker 5

We're sick of him. We're sick of him. He's got to go. As far as we're concerned, he has got to go. And we were absolutely demralized.

Speaker 4

I believe that.

Speaker 5

Every hard working person in this country, they want to feel like their job means something. They want to feel like they have accomplished something. They want to go home every day thinking that I did a good job. Border patrol agents cannot do that right now. We know that every single time we put on a uniform that we're not doing anything. All we're doing is actually aiding in a betting these criminal cartels with facilitating the transport of

illegal aliens throughout the entire United States. The fentanyl that's coming in. We want to go after for these cartels. We want to go after their profits. We want to stop sex trafficking, We want to save migrants lives, and this administration won't let us.

Speaker 2

Brandon, I want to ask you a question about national security and the safety and what's coming across the border that the media doesn't want to cover. That includes what you mentioned obviously with fetanyl, but also from a national security standpoint, we have people that are on lists, wanted list and tarifs watch list that we are catching coming across the border. And before I get you to answer that, I want to talk about our friends agust the Precious Metals.

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ir A to get that free Investor's guide on gold. Brandon, let's talk about the national security aspect of an open border. It still is hard for me to just get my head right around the idea that in a post nine to eleven world. And I know that was a long time ago in some people's minds. To me, it's still very fresh. I still remember what that was like. How we have a border that is so wide open, and we also know that people are exploiting our open border.

How big of a concern is that for you and all the border patrol a DIDs you work with.

Speaker 5

We always talk about the apprehensions, We talk about the how those those numbers are skyrocketing, how we're taking too many people in custody. What doesn't get talked about enough and where national security is involved, is the god Aways, the people that are able to enter the country illegally and evade apprehension. Right now, we're having about three thousand god aways per day. That means three thousand people who we don't know who they are, where they're coming from, what their.

Speaker 6

Intentions are here in the United States.

Speaker 5

They're able to evade apprehension, and we're going to fill the effects of it down the road.

Speaker 6

It's never terror is always lay in weight.

Speaker 1

That's what they do.

Speaker 6

They wait until there's an opportunity.

Speaker 5

And if we have people that are crossing the border illegally and they're able to evade apprehension, they're coming from the Middle East, or they're coming from a country that wants to do us harm, we're ultimately going to feel that effects. That again, is one of the reasons that border security is so important to the American people. It's so important to this nation that we're able to secure

the border. It's so important to this nation that we're able to vet every single person that comes into this country so we can ensure that we can protect the interest not only of the economy, but also the interests of each individual American.

Speaker 3

Well and Brandon, I want to underscore something you said, if you're coming here illegally and you're not a bad guy, You're not a drug dealer, you're not a gang member, you don't have a criminal record, you're not a terrorist. Is there any reason for you to be a runner? Is there any reason for you to be a godaway?

Speaker 1

None?

Speaker 6

Absolutely none?

Speaker 4

And why is that?

Speaker 5

Because you know you're going to be released under these policies, You're going to be released in the United States, So why would you run?

Speaker 3

So understand that if you're just a regular Central American who wants to come to America, what you do is what they're doing by the thousands.

Speaker 4

Every night.

Speaker 3

You come across and you go look for a bordertrol agent. You don't run. You actually walk up to the border patrol agent. Most of them are carrying with them a plastic baggie, typically with some form of identification, maybe a birth certificate, maybe a passport, and usually a phone number of somebody in the United States, and they go look for a.

Speaker 4

Border patrol agent. They do.

Speaker 3

They not only don't run, they want to find the border patrol agent because the border patrol agent will process them and under Biden, will put them on an airplane or a bus and take them to wherever they want to go in the United States. So the three thousand people a day who were running, who were got aways, the natural inference is every one of them has something

to hide. Every one of them has something that they're like, Wait, if I were to turn myself into a border patrol agent, they would find out that I have a homicide conviction, they would find out that I'm a member of MS thirteen, they would find out that I'm the terrorist watch list, they would find out that I'm carrying a backpack full

of marijuana or fetanol. And those are the people that are getting away, and they're doing it every single day, in significant part because the border patrol agents are swamped with the deluge of illegal immigrants, which means that bad guys have free reign because there aren't agents left to deal with them.

Speaker 4

Is that am I accurately capturing that?

Speaker 5

You nailed it on the head when you look at the numbers. We talk about numbers all the time, but numbers without context are nothing but numbers. So we have to put the numbers in context so people can understand why it's so important. When in a normal administration, in a normal day, we will apprehend between a one thousand to fifteen hundred people per day. Right now we're apprehending ten thousand people per day. What that does is that

that strains all of our resources. It pulls our agents out the off the border from patrolling and puts us in administrative duties. And when we're in administrative duties, we can't go after the cartels. And right now, with ten thousand apprehensions per day, that means we only have about fifteen percent of our resource of patrolling the border. And when you only have fifteen percent of your resource patroling the border, the cartels own the border.

Speaker 4

At that point.

Speaker 5

Now they have free reign to get anything into this country that they want.

Speaker 3

Well and Brandon, the example you gave me is with the border patrol mustering forty four agents, when you have apprehensions that are ten thousand a day, roughly four of those agents are out in the field actually in a position to stop a drug runner, to stop a terrorist, to stop a bad guy. And roughly forty of those forty four are doing processing, are caring for just this massive humanity, and are basically being social workers.

Speaker 4

And is that what's happening?

Speaker 1

It is?

Speaker 6

It is what's happening.

Speaker 5

We're not doing a law enforcement job. We are, in fact being social workers. We're taking care of these individuals. We're giving them food, we're giving diapers. At times, we're even changing diapers. And so, yeah, we've been taken out of the law enforcement role and we've been put into a secondary role that's administrative in nature, and that's not what law enforcement is supposed to be doing. We've got to go back and we have to look at this.

We have activists that are running legitimate law enforcement organizations. And anytime that you have activists running law enforcement organizations, we're not going to be able to enforce the rule of law. They don't like the rule of law. Activists don't like that. They want this open order.

Speaker 3

Well, listen, this is the same thing as George Soros DA's and criminal law enforcement. This is putting radical activists who hate the mission of border patrol in charge of border patrol. And if they hate the mission of border patrol, they won't let them actually fulfill their mission. And so that means a couple of things. One, it means America is at much greater risk. It means we have what we had last year over one hundred thousand overdoses, about

seventy percent of which were from Chinese fentanyl. And by the way, that's the highest rate of overdoses in the history of the United States of America. Congratulations Joe Biden and the Democrats. You've set a record, but it ain't a good one. It means terrorists can come into this country unabated. It also means as a morale matter. Look, I've gotten to know a lot of border patrol agents over the last decade. These guys are tough. These guys sign up. Look, they're like cops, Ben, your dad was

a cop. They sign up because they want to defend America, because they believe in our country. They want to keep our country safe that they want to protect kids, they want to protect our communities, They want to stop drug traffickers, they want to stop human traffickers.

Speaker 4

And these tough, badass.

Speaker 3

Law enforcement agents instead find themselves changing diapers and processing paperwork day after day after day. That's not using their skills where they're needed, but it's also demoralizing the living daylights out of these guys.

Speaker 5

It is it is, and I will change diapers if I feel I can go after the cartels as well. I recognize that these are small children. We've got to treat these small children the best that we possibly can. But I want to be able to go after the cartels. That's what we want to be able to do. We want to be able to go after their profits. We want to stop them from trafficking people into modern day slavery.

Speaker 6

That's what's happening. These people are.

Speaker 5

Going into the sex industry, forcibly, going into the sex industry. They're going into sweatshops, and that's what we want to stop. We we want to protect life. We believe that life is very important. The Democrats given off a lot of lip service. Biden gives a lot of lip service. Please look at his actions, watch his actions, don't listen to his words.

Speaker 6

Judge him on his actions.

Speaker 5

And if we judge them on their actions, would we would quickly find out that all they care about is themselves. They care about their next election. They do not care about the right things. And that's why we like to support the right people. We want good people in elected office. We want people that don't care about that election. They care about the American people. Biden is not that person.

Speaker 2

What is the biggest policy that needs to change. I mean, we're seeing this happen. It's humanitarian crisis. Many communities of declared state of emergencies. But what is the one policy, Brandon, that you wish would change immediately that can allow you guys to empower you guys to actually do your job. And before you answer, I want to tell you bet our friends at Patriot Mobile. For years, big mobile companies have been dumping millions into leftist causes, and now you

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Speaker 5

I'm gonna show all of your listens the reason why we support Senator Cruz. I bet you anything that he could answer this question the exact same way that I would answer the question, Senata.

Speaker 6

What's the answer?

Speaker 3

End catch and release and reinstate the remain in Mexico agreement.

Speaker 6

That's it right there. That's all we have to do.

Speaker 5

And by the way, that doesn't cost the taxpayer anything. The taxpayer does not have to shoulder this burden. We could secure the border tomorrow with the resources that we have. I don't need more manpower, I don't need more techno, I don't need more infrastructure. I need policy, something that doesn't cost us anything, and we could secure it tomorrow.

Speaker 2

Is there a chance that this gets so bad that they will be publicly shamed into doing that. And I'm asking you, Senator to the politics this as well. At what point does this start to backfire on Democrats? I mean, if this many illegal immigrants keep coming across the border, as we're witnessing right now with the ending of Title forty two, and we see even in New York they said they weren't going to bust people to other parts of New York, they've already lied in New York City.

They kept doing that actually yesterday while it was in New York City, and they're kicking Americans out of shelters to make room for illegal immigrants coming in, including children. Americans and children yesterday were kicked out of shelters in New York City to make room for legal immigrants. They are displacing Americans for this. At what point does this start to backfire?

Speaker 3

Well, I don't know that there is a point where o'biden feels one ioto shame. I don't know that there is a point where Kamala Harris feels one ioto of shame. I don't know that there's a point where Alejandro Mayorcis feels one ioto of shame. I can tell you this though, Congressional Democrats are starting to get nervouses all get out. You know, we talked on this pod at length about six weeks ago when Alejandro Mayorcus testified in front of

the Senate Judiciary Committee, and I lit him up. But perhaps the most interesting moment of that entire testimony is, as I'm going after Mayorcis, he looks up to Dick Durbin and he basically pleads for Durbin to come save him and listen. Dick Durbin, I think is the smartest of the Democrats on the Judiciary Committee.

Speaker 4

He is.

Speaker 3

He's a hard left winger, but Dick and I have spent the last eleven years battling and beating the living daylights out of each other. He's not shy about coming after me. I'm not shy about coming after him. And Durban looked at Mayorcis and just kind of shrugged. And I thought that was the most revealing moment because what it said to me is uh oh, Durban and the

Dems are nervous. They recognize this is an absolute disaster that's playing out on the southern border, and they're starting to think about their own rear ends and doing a

cya and they're ready to let Mayorcis twist. And you know, it's interesting, Ben, I want to tell you some of the things that I learned on this trip, because a number of things were different on this trip from the last time I was at the border, and I'm here often, but when I was last at the border, the bulk of the illegal immigration was coming from a handful of Central American countries. It was coming from Nicaragua and Guatemala, and Honduras and El Salvador. Those four were driving the

vast majority of illegal immigration. What is fascinating Now we're in Brownsville. Normally I would go to McCallan, which was the epicenter of the crisis. The cartels have moved to Brownsville, which is further east. Brownsville is the very southern tip of Texas, and Brownsville right now is seeing a massive influx. Just in Brownsville, they have seen in less than a month more than forty thousand illegal immigrants. And what is fascinating about what they're seeing Thirty five thousand of them

have been Venezuelans. It's a massive influx of Venezuelans. The next largest group here in Brownsville has been Colombians, and Colombians have been roughly two thousand, and it goes down from there. Let me tell you in another amazing stat they told me. They said they are right now encountering between ninety and one hundred Chinese nationals each and every day.

Speaker 1

Wow.

Speaker 3

Last time I was down here, it was four or five Chinese nationals. It's gone from four or five a day to ninety to one hundred. And I pressed them and said, okay, what happens with those Chinese nationals? They said, well, we investigate them and look for derogatory information, something like a criminal conviction, something that is a real concern that they may be a spy. And if they have derogatory information, we deport them. And I said, okay, out of that ninety,

how many will fall into that category? And they said, ah, five or six, which means about eighty five Chinese nationals a day they're just releasing, releasing into America. That is a massive shift. Let me tell you something else that I saw tonight. Just south of the border in Mateamores, there are twenty two thousand illegal aliens camped out right along the Rio Grande River, It is, as you noted at the outset, like an invading army. We went down

to the river banks, we saw them. They had fires burning, they had music playing. They were throwing a party because Title forty two was ending tonight and that twenty two thousand was planning to invade this country in the next couple of days. And there are one hundred and seventy thousand all up and down the border in exactly that position, getting ready to come over because of Joe Biden.

Speaker 2

Brandon, You've seen surges before. You've seen things change when Donald Trump stopped being the president and Joe Biden was coming in. Even before Joe Biden been toorn and you saw a surge that was taking place. Have you ever witnessed anything like what you're witnessing right now? And what

does the new normal look like? Is this going to be a massive surge and then the numbers are going to come way back down, or is this going to be a massive surge with all time new high numbers each day, each week, each month.

Speaker 5

In my worst nightmare, I never thought it could have gotten this bad. Ever, they are trying to set the new normal. They don't want to go back to what it used to be. They want these numbers to continue. They want the American people to think that, Okay, well ten thousand today, ten thousand tomorrow, that's normal. And then it goes up to twelve thousand, and then it goes up to thirteen thousand. They just want that number to

continue to go up and up and up. Remember a normal day, under a normal administration, this includes Obama, Our normal apprehensions are between one thousand to fifteen hundred per day. We normally deploy eighty percent of our resources to the field. We only have twenty percent of our resources doing administrative work. And that is completely changed. They have completely flipped it upside down. We're now apprehending ten thousand people per day.

We only have twenty percent of our resources patrolling the border. If twenty percent of our resource patrol on the border and the cartels control everything. We used to be able to go after the cartels, We used to be able to go after the profits. We used to be able to go after their drugs. Now we can't do any of that.

Speaker 2

All do You can't go after the cartels and you can't go after the drugs. I really want you to explain that, because so many people live singing and be saying, well, wait, why can't they do that part of their job that has nothing to do with Title forty two. So explain why you can't.

Speaker 5

Because we don't have anybody in the field to do the job we're all doing. None of us are doing law enforcement work. We're all doing administrative duties. If we were doing law enforcement work, we would be able to go out for the cartels. We would be able to go after and try to put a dent in their profits.

Speaker 3

So let me give you an example, Ben, All right, So we came down here to Brownsville, and we came right along the border to the place where where they where illegal immigrants have been crossing in vast numbers. And what happens is they walk across, and we saw multiple groups walking across, and they walk right up. They look for the border patrol agents. They actually don't look for them.

They know where they are. The cartels have told them, okay, they're right over there, just walk up the road, they'll be right there. So they walk straight up and they're carrying with the identification. And there's actually new tech the border patrol agents have. It's on their cell phone. So every agent has it on their cell phone. And with the cell phone, let's say the illegal immigrant has a birth certificate or a passport, some form of identification. They

scan that ID with their cell phone. It auto populates the fields. And I saw them doing this so over and over again. It puts the name in, puts the age in, it puts whatever country they say they're from.

Speaker 4

They've now streamlined it.

Speaker 3

Do you know how long it takes a border patrol agent to process an illegal immigrant when they cross right now, just using the border using the cell phone app.

Speaker 1

I would assume extremely fast, but how fast?

Speaker 4

Two minutes?

Speaker 1

Wow?

Speaker 2

So you literally can break in America, turn yourself into America, and be processed in one hundred and twenty seconds.

Speaker 4

Justin Brownsville. And I saw them do it over and over again.

Speaker 3

I watched them fill it out and they process it the cell phone. It takes about two minutes that they have them sit in a little staging area and they have right now justin Brownsville. So this is one tiny part of the border. They have over forty bus loads a day of illegal immigrants. They take them from the staging area to a detention center to figure out, Okay, where do you want to go, and then they arrange the transportation and ship them wherever they want to go.

But what Joe Biden is trying to do, what Kamala Harris is trying to do, what Alejandro may Orcis thinks his job is is not stop illegal immigration, is not prevent the trafficking. It is rather to increase illegal immigration. It is to increase human trafficking. And may Orcus every day wakes up and says, how can I make it more efficient? How can I make it faster? How can

I make two minutes into ninety seconds? And what they want is they want the revolving door not to stop, but to spin even faster.

Speaker 4

And the suffering.

Speaker 3

Last year, eight hundred and fifty three migrants died crossing illegally into this country. The body bags, the women being sexually assaulted, the children being brutalized, the people dying of drug overdoses, those are all, from the Biden administration's perspective, perfectly acceptable losses for their political goal of utterly reshaping the American electorate. And they are willing to ignore modern day human slavery and sex trafficking because politics matters more to them.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and that's I think the part that angers so many Americans. I want to ask you one final question, Brandon about these cartels, because what has been lost in this is the profits and the amount of carnage not just left behind, but also the amount of carnage in lives that they're ruining on this side of the border with the drugs coming across and the fetanyl and the gangs.

Put that into perspective for everyone that's listening, because it's not just the numbers, as you mentioned, it is also all of this other organized crime and how rich are they getting off this and what are they doing with that money? And before you answer that, let me tell you better. Friends at Chalk, if you're a guy and you feel like you're just getting a little bit older, you're getting a little bit of fatigue, you're not alone to sastron levels and the US are actually a historically

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Brandon just talk about.

Speaker 2

The carnage that this is that the drugs and the cartels are are creating that the American beep, we're having to deal with that the media refuses to talk about.

Speaker 1

And that's outside the illegal immigration issue.

Speaker 5

So it all starts with the illegal immigration. That's where all of their profits start. What they do is they use is it's so monstrous their business model, the way they operate, They use illegal aliens as pawns. And when they do that, they open up their their opportunities to smuggle in drugs, to smuggle in uh people from special interest countries.

Speaker 6

It's all about.

Speaker 4

And Brandon, what's a special interest country.

Speaker 5

That's a country that wants to do us harm some something like like whack i Ran, Syria, Yemen.

Speaker 4

All of those.

Speaker 3

Countries countries are terrorists that might might try to blow us up.

Speaker 1

Yep.

Speaker 4

Absolutely.

Speaker 5

And so what these cartels do is they use these illegal immigrants as pawns to open up their traffic lanes when they pull when they when they cross a bunch of illegal aliens, they know that it pulls our resources to that area, opening up gaps in our coverage, and that's when they cross their fetanyl and that fetanyl is coming in. So they're using illegal aliens and they're making billions of dollars, not in a year, in a month.

They're making billions of dollars off of illegal immigrants. And then you add on top of that the astronomical amount of money that they're making off of the drug trade. And it's all based upon the policies of this administration. This administration is enriching these cartels through their policies and it could stop tomorrow. And that's what is so frustrating to every single one of us.

Speaker 3

Well, and Brandon is exactly right then, And let me say two things in closing. Number one, let me give you specificity, Ben on the numbers you asked for. And my source may be surprising. It's the New York Times, hardly a right wing source. According to New York Times, the Mexican drug cartels in twenty eighteen made roughly five hundred million dollars from human trafficking, a lot of money.

Five hundred million dollars is a bunch of money. Last year, those same cartels made over thirteen billion dollars just from human trafficking. Their profits have increased two thousand, six hundred percent.

Speaker 4

I've said this before, but it's not hyperbole.

Speaker 3

The single best thing that ever happened to the drug cartels was Joe Biden becoming president because he took these murderous, torturing, sociopathic gangsters and he made them Decca billionaires. And they have now created a global empire, including with illegal immigrants working for them and committing crimes in every community in every city in America. Let me make a second point.

When we were down here, there were a bunch of reporters here, and a bunch of the reporters are little left wing twits, So reporters would ask things like is compassion important? Isn't it important that we be compassionate? And I'll tell you a conversation I had with a couple of reporters that I have to admit it made them actually sort of pause and shake their head. I said, listen, we all remember the immigration debates that played out for

years and five six years ago. When you were talking about immigration, all the Democrats would get on their high horse and they'd say, we're compassion We're humane, not like you mean, nasty Republicans who want to secure the border. We're the ones who are compassionate. And when I put it out to reporters that, I said, you know what the Democrats know. They're full of crap now. And you know how that you know that because none of them are here. Joe Biden isn't here, Kamala Harris isn't here,

Elizabeth Warren isn't here, Bernie Sanders isn't here. AOC isn't here. And it's because you cannot look at the body bags, at the women horribly assaulted, at the children, brutalized, You cannot look at the horrific suffering their causing and claim it is somehow humane. When I was standing down by the Rio Grand we saw lots of kids' shoes, flip flops. I saw a little pair of flipflops, pink flip flops. They must have been for a girl, maybe five or

six years old. And you know, I pointed out, I said, listen, there is nothing remotely humane or compassionate about it putting a five or six year old girl in the custody of human traffickers who daily brutalize little kids. And the Democrats now their only strategy is hide this. They don't want the media to cover it because they cannot defend what is happening. That's how bad it is, because the horror is undeniable.

Speaker 5

Joe Biden is the criminal cartel's best friend.

Speaker 2

Yes, I think that's a great way to end this, because it's so important that people understand how bad it is, and also that this, like you said, Joe Biden is the cartel's best friend and has made them more money than they could have ever imagined.

Speaker 1

Brandon, good luck to you and your guys on the border.

Speaker 2

I know you have to be demoralized by this, but we appreciate all of your work that you and your team are doing down there. Their their their they're patriots, their men and women that risk their lives and and do this each and every day. So I want to make sure you know that we are all behind you. Uh and thank you for spending some time with us. Don't forget to share this podcast with your family and friends so other people hear these stories and you know what's really going on the border.

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