Welcome. It is Verdict with Center. Ted Cruz ben Ferguson with you, Senator. Nice to be with you as always. And there is new intel coming out that the Biden administration may be welcoming a whole lot of refugees from Gaza as part of their new plan.
Well, that's exactly right. There's breaking news that the Biden White House is considering allowing refugees to come from Gaza, which would be an enormous national security thread. It makes no sense at all. We're going to talk about that and examine what they're talking about. We also now have new data on the cities that the Biden administration is flying illegal immigrants too all over the country. We've got
numbers and breakdown. We're going to get into that. And finally, we're going to talk about a new bill that I've introduced. It's a bipartisan bill designed to limit kids access to social media, and in particular to stop young kids from getting on social media and to protect kids from all the negative influences that can be found on social media. We're going to discuss that as well.
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about this plan. And I'm still trying to get my head around what the play is here politically, except that they're trying to signal to young people that are on these college campuses, Hey, we're not in favor of Israel by any means, stick with us. And then while all that's going on, they signal that we're going to allow a bunch of refugees to come to America.
Why.
Look, it is absolutely crazy. The White House has put out a store. Here's the CBS headline, quote, white House considers welcoming some Palestinians from war torn Gaza as refugees.
And what CBS reported is quote the Biden administration is considering bringing certain Palestinians to the US's refugees, a move that would offer a permanent safe haven to some of those fleeing war torn Gaza, according to internal federal government documents obtained by CBS News in recent weeks, the document show senior US officials across several federal agencies have discussed the practicality of different options to resettle Palestinians from Gaza
who have immediate family members who are American citizens or permanent residents. One of those proposals involves using the decades old United States Refugee Admissions program to welcome Palestinians with US ties who have managed to escape Gaza and enter neighboring Egypt. According to the interagency planning documents, top US officials have also discussed getting additional Palestinians out of Gaza and processing them as refugees if they have American relatives.
The document show the plan would require coordination with Egypt, which is so far refused to welcome large numbers of people from Gaza. So understand this, Egypt, which is a direct neighbor of Gaza, is saying we don't want these refugees here. And by the way, the reason the refugees don't want the Egyptians don't want them there is they're
afraid of terrorism. They're afraid that there are too many Hamas terrorists that are part of the so called refugees, and they don't want them committing acts of terrorism and violence in Egypt, and yet the Biden administration is saying, well, heck, we'd love to have them here, like like this is
a level of insanity. In the wake of October seventh, and the wake of this grotesque terror attack that murdered twelve hundred Israelis, that murdered Americans, that raped women and little girls, the reaction of the Biden w light house is well, we need to welcome more of these folks into America.
Yeah, And the timing of this is incredibly questionable. You look at what the crackdowns that were finally seeing on college campuses right now, Senator, we're saying hundreds that have been arrested, for example Columbia, other universities where this is happening as well, And the timing seems to be in essence perfect, like, hey, we're still with you guys. I know you guys are kind of getting rid of your encampments and you're getting arrested, but just know we really are on your side.
Well, it really is remarkable how terrified that the so called mainstream Democrats are of ticking off the radical left in their party. The Democrat Party has a problem right now. It has a hard anti Semitism problem. There is literally a pro Haamas wing of the Democrat Party. And we've talked about this before. It's not just the squad, it's not just the radicals. Joe is terrified of them. Chuck Schumer is terrified of them. Nancy Pelosi is terrified of them.
And they are really they're really setting the agendas. Why Joe Biden has so so carefully avoided speaking out with any clarity on the topic because he wants he wants the votes of the anti Israel, the anti Semitic protesters. He's trying to to to get support from them, and he and the other Democrats view that as a major portion of today's Democrat Party.
What does the oversight look like and can they go around Congress completely to allow refugees in from from guys as specifically, how many could this be? How big could this program get?
Well, we don't know the answers to that right now. I will tell you in the Senate the chances of their being meaningful oversight is is really quite low. The The White House gave a statement to CBS on Tuesday night that said the US has quote helped more than eighteen hundred American citizens and their families leave Gaza, many of whom have come to the United States at President
Biden's direction. We have also helped and will continue to help some particularly vulnerable individuals, such as children with serious health problems and children who are receiving treatment for cancer, get out of harm's way and receive care at nearby hospitals in the region. The statement went on to say that the US quote categorically rejects any actions leading to the forced relocation of Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank,
or the redrawing of the borders of Gaza. The best pass forward is to achieve a sustainable ceasefire through a hostage deal that will stabilize the situation and pave the way to a two state solution. So the White House, remember, these are internal documents from the government where they're discussing plans. Hey, how many refugees can we bring from Gaza to America? And you've got US officials going back and forth on
different programs they can used to do that. It's not clear who chose to leak those documents or what their motivation was. The motivation could well be what you suggested it could have been a political decision by the White House to show some love to the pro Hamas wing of the Democrat Party, and that may well have been part of the motivation. But in terms of oversight, look, the sad thing is in the Senate. As long as Chuck Schumer is the majority leader, he has zero interest
on oversight on this question. The Democrats have zero interest on oversight on this question. Remember, just a couple of weeks ago, I forced a vote on the Senate floor to block the Biden administration from giving additional billions of dollars to Iran to the Ayahtola. And by the way, Iran funds ninety percent of a MAAS. So it was a very simple amendment, stop giving money that goes to
Hamas to kill Jews and to kill Americans. And every single Democrat at but one voted no. That's where they are so on bringing people from Gaza who could be terrorists, who could endanger the safety of American citizens here. It does not surprise me that's what this administration is talking about doing, because it's clear that's where their sympathies and their loyalties lie.
And the rhetoric's going to be exactly what you described, Senator. They're going to say, look, there's a lot of people that are innocent, you should be compassionate and loving, and those that need, you know, for humanitarian reasons. But seventy two percent of Palatinians believe quote that Hamasa's decision to launch the October seventh attack was correct, which goes back to what you were saying a moment ago about other countries in the regions, saying we don't want these refugees
here because we're afraid about terrorism. Well, if seventy two percent of Palatinans believe that Hamas's decision to launch the attack was the right decision, then we have a real concern about who may be coming into this country.
Well, that's exactly right. And by the way, the polling your sighting. That's the results of the latest polls by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research, and it was conducted in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip between November twenty second and December second of two thousand and three, and that period witnessed the October seventh launch. So this was a little bit over a month after October seventh, and I got to tell you those numbers
seventy two percent. The sample size of the poll was twelve hundred and thirty one adults, of whom seven hundred and fifty were interviewed face to face in the West Bank and four hundred and eighty one in the Gaza Strip in one hundred and twenty one randomly selected locations. And so if you look at this, and we also know in the Gaza Strip, residents were interviewed in twenty four shelter locations, of which twenty belonged to UNRA, the UN agency that Hamas terrorist worked for and for to
governmental institutions. A total of two hundred and fifty interviews were covered in these shelters. Is another twenty one were conducted in the homes of relatives and friends of displaced people from the North and the numbers findings indicate that a majority of respondents believe that Hamas's decision to carry out the offensive is correct and believe that the attack came in response to quote, settler attacks on the al Asqua Mosque and West Bank residents and for the release
of Palestinian prisoners. Those numbers, and it goes on to say the poll says it is worth noting that there are significant differences between the attitudes of the residents of the West Bank compared to the Gaza Strip in terms of the correctness of Hamasa's decisions, as the attitude of Gazans tend to show a greater degree of skepticism of
that decision. I'll tell you the videos I've watched of October seventh, when Hamas terrorists are coming back to Gaza, and they're coming back to Gaza and they're bringing Israeli hostages. They're bringing women, they're bringing children that are beaten, that are bleeding. Some of them have gunshot wounds, some of them have have, you know, very very serious injuries. They're dragging them out of the truck into the truck.
Uh.
Some of them have have injuries that are consistent with with with violent forcible rape. They're they're bleeding, uh from from their bleeding from where they would being the victims of those kinds of attacks. And the reactions ben of Palestinians and gaza Is. You see hundreds of them cheering in celebration as they are watching these hostages dragged out clearly suffering serious abuse. And and we're not talking just the Hamas terrorists. We're talking just in the town square
when they come back that the reaction is cheering. Who the hell in their right mind would say, you know, what we really need is the people committing these atrocities, the people cheering on these atrocities. We need them here in America. That sounds like a great idea.
Yeah.
And then the other question I have for your final question on this is we've seen this administration be incredibly deceptive towards the American people, towards the taxpayers. We've seen them fly flights at which we're going to talk about in a minute, into random cities in America without giving notice to those cities. I'm assuming if they want to start importing people from Gaza, they would use the same exact tactics as they've been using all over the country in the middle of the night.
I think that is absolutely right. They would do it surreptitiously, they would hide it. That's how they've handled this border invasion. They lie about it. Alojandro Majorca still says our southern border is secure. They're perfectly happy to lie about it. And listen. From day one, the Biden administration has undermined Israel and has sent money to people who hate us
and people who want to kill us. They've sent billions of dollars to Iran, They've sent hundreds of millions of dollars to Gaza that in turn has an almost almost certainly flowed to Hamas. And they want to continue doing that. That that is their commitment, and so I think I
think this threat is real. These people are zealous. These are also people who look at the viciously anti Semitic protests at Columbia and Yale and NYU and UCLA and say, you know what, we're with those folks, and we need more people like them.
And it's really.
I think this is really revealing a divide that is frightening and scary, and it's not a divide that normal people in their normal lives encounter. It is the radicals who are more and more taking over the Democrat Party. And Ben I want to dig a little bit more into these poll results because they're deeply concerning. So the results of the poll, as you noted's seventy two percent of the public believe that Hamas's decisions to decision to
launch the October seventh attack was correct. A majority fifty three percent believe that Israel's war objective is to destroy the Gaza Strip and to kill or expel its residents, and forty two percent believe it is to take revenge on Hamas and the resistance and to destroy them. A majority believes Israel will fail to achieve these goals. Eighty five percent have not seen any videos showing atrocities committed
by Hamas against Israeli citizens. On October seventh and over, only seven percent say Hamas committed atrocities against Israeli civilians. Let me repeat that, because that is horrifying. They did a poll of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip in the West Bank and only seven percent will admit that Hamas committed atrocities against Israeli civilians. So they're truthers who are denying October seventh even happen. Seventy percent seven zero percent of West Bankers and half of Gazans expect Hamas to
emerge victorious. That is deeply frightening. And the Biden administration is talking about wanting to bring to America a group of people of whom ninety three percent of them deny that Hamas committed atrocities against civilians, which is indisputable. They filmed it and put out the videos. They're very proud of it, and yet that this population is so radicalized that they don't believe it's true.
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and national security issues, is disastrous. But we're learning now more about internal Department of Homeland Security data revealing the forty five plus US cities that hundreds of thousands of migrants have flown into via the Biden administration's per mass parole program that they refused to disclose the public where all of these illegal immigrants are being dropped off, and you apparently have no right to know who they are or even where they're coming from.
Well, that's exactly right, Ben, and we did a pod on this topic when when the story first broke about the Biden administration's program that wasn't just dealing with illegal immigrants who crossed the border and stream across our southern border, but actually was arranging flights to come in for illegal immigrants to come into cities all across the country. And at the time, the Biden administration's position was, we're not
going to tell you where they're coming. We can't tell you because it's a national security risk, and so they refused to tell us. Well, we now have data from DHS that that covers an eight month period, so it is from January through August of twenty twenty three, and there are about two hundred thousand illegal immigrants who flew into the US using the program. And we have the breakdown. Let me give you the top fifteen cities and how
many came. The number one city the Biden administration flew people illegal immigrants into was Miami, Florida ninety one, eight hundred and twenty one. The number two city, Fort Lawerdale, Florida, sixty thousand, four hundred and sixty one. The number three city, New York City fourteen thousand, eight hundred and twenty seven. Number four You're in my hometown Houston, Texas seven thousand,
nine hundred and twenty three. Number five Orlando, Florida six thousand and forty three, Number six Los Angeles, California three thousand, two hundred and seventy one. Number seven Tampa, Florida three thousand, two hundred and thirty seven. Number eight Dallas, Texas two thousand,
two hundred and fifty six. Number nine San Francisco, California two thousand and fifty two, Number ten Atlanta, Georgia one thousand, seven hundred ninety six, Number eleven, Newark, New Jersey, one thousand, four hundred ninety eight, Number twelve, Washington, d C. One thousand, four hundred and seventy two, Number thirteen, Chicago, Illinois, four hundred and ninety seven, Number fourteen, Las Vegas, Nevada, four hundred eighty three, and number fifteen. Rounding out the top
fifteen Austin, Texas with one hundred and seventy one. And so those are now what's striking. They're sending the vast majority of the illegal immigrants in this program to Florida and Texas. Florida is getting hammered. Just Miami and Fort Lauderdale have over one hundred and fifty thousand that are going there. And actually blue cities and blue states get relatively few, so they're really hammering Florida and Texas. That's
one obvious conclusion of this. A second conclusion, Look, the White House is trying to spend well, no, no, these are not illegal immigrants because we're letting them in using legal authorities. Well, I can tell you that that in litigation. Here's what DHS wrote in response to a subpoena quote. DHS said all individuals paroled into the United States are by definition inadmissible, including those paroled under the CHNV processes,
which is what this program is. And to give you a sense of the numbers on this program, CBP says at least four hundred and four thousand illegal immigrants have flown to the US using this program, and the breakdown we know of one hundred and fifty four thousand Haitians, ninety five thousand Venezuelans, eighty four thousand Cubans, and sixty nine thousand Nicaraguans.
This is again the reason why they were trying to hide this. It's also the reason why they have not been informing state we're talking about governors or local municipalities of who they're bringing in, because they knew there would probably be a lot of people that would say, no, we don't want to deal with this, No, please don't drop them off here.
Well, that's right, and it's interesting also, So the number three city was New York City, and then the number again was fourteen, eight hundred and twenty seven, so it was a lot less than went to Miami or Fort Lauderdale. What's interesting, though, is is we know that the mayor of New York, a liberal Democrat who has declared at a crisis, said it's an emergency, said illegal immigration is
destroying New York City. He has blamed what he called that madman from Texas, and as we've talked about, I'm actually disappointed that he's talking about Greg Abbott, not me. I wonder what I have to do to qualify for that insult from the mayor of New York City. But Texas has sent to New York City roughly ten thousand
illegal immigrants. So if he's blaming that mad man, well, Joe Biden has sent fourteen, eight hundred and twenty seven and that's just using this one program that doesn't measure the other thousands that Biden has sent that crossed the border illegally on the southern border, and that Biden put on a bus or a plane. But yet the Democrat mayor of New York can't actually blame the person responsible, which is Biden and for that matter, Chuck Schumer and every other Democrat in Congress.
Will this change that moved the needle at all? Do you think?
Because we know where may Adams has now been saying, and we know about even in places like Colorado where they're having to get rid of people in law enforcement for goodness sakes, and letting people go in New York to cover for the cost that it is to take care of all of these illegal immigrants. At least seeing the disclosures and the number of people involved, could this move the needle a little bit?
Well, ask yourself this, how many of the home newspapers where this data were reported actually covered it, How many of them covered it on the front page, How many of them had a headline. I feel confident that the New York Times in New York City does not have a headline Biden administration flew fourteen, eight hundred and twenty seven illegal immigrants to New York City that I would be surprised if you can read it anywhere in the New York Times, and if you look at newspaper by newspaper.
I certainly haven't read it in the Chronicle and Houston, Houston was number four. It may have been covered to the Chronicle. I haven't searched it. But but you know, the media doesn't want to cover these numbers. You know that Democrats don't want to admit these numbers, and so their plan is going to be the same as their plan consistently has been, which is, ignore the crisis, pretend it's not happened, count on the silence and complicity of
the media to cover this up. Because I got to say, if you live in any of those fifteen cities, you ought to be pissed off. And by the way, you know, I gave the numbers of the biggest group that has been flown in our Haitians, and it was at least one hundred and fifty four thousand Haitians. We've talked about. One of those Haitians was flown to Boston, Massachusetts, and he was just recently arrested for raping a fifteen year
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comes to protecting kids on social media. So explain why this legislation is something that parents really need to know about.
Well, this is legislation I introduced this week, and it's bipartisan legislation. I teamed up with Brian Shotts, who's a Democrat from Hawaii, and the bill is called the Kids Off Social Media Act, and it does several things Number one, it prohibits children under thirteen from accessing social media. So kids, there's no reason for an eight or nine year old to be on TikTok or to be on social media.
And there are a lot of harmful things, I'll tell you. Listen, you and I are both parents, and any parent who is dealing with I'm dealing with teenagers. Your kids are not teenagers yet, but but if you blink, they will be. Any parent dealing with teenagers or adolescents out to deal with phones and social media is one of the greatest challenges because phones are really a portal for kids to
access all sorts of harmful content. And so this bill says if you're under thirteen, you can't be on social media. And then it says for kids younger than seventeen, big tech companies are prohibited from using algorithmic boosting to send messages to them. So we know right now, there's been a lot of testimony in the Senate that big tech companies send messages to our kids, to our teenagers that
are really harmful. They send messages that undermine their body image, they send messages that encourage self harm, they send messaging that increases suicidal ideation, they send messaging that increases increases their feelings of depression and anxiety. They send messages encouraging dangerous behavior. They send messaging pushing radical beliefs, things like Prohamas beliefs. And so this bill says as if you're under seventeen, big tech cannot target using algorithm boosting to
send messages that are addicting and that are harmful. And then the bill also includes a separate bill that I had introduced previously, and I introduced it with John Fetterman. It was also bipartisan, and my separate bill was called the Eyes on the Board Bill, and the Eyes on the Board Bill, which is now part of this bill, says that any school that receives federal funds has to
block social media on campus. And the basic idea is, while our kids are in school, they ought to be listening to teacher, They ought to be doing school work. They don't need to be posting on Instagram while they're in school. For older kids, they can do that when they get home, but at school they ought to be focused on the school work.
Yeah, they should be. And this is legislation that you mention is bipartisan. Here what does it look like the chances of this moving forward since it is a bipartisan piece of legislation.
So I'm actually quite optimistic. We are likely to have a markup in the Senate Commerce Committee next week. I'm the ranking member, the senior Republican on the Commerce Committee, and I think it is very likely to pass the Commerce Committee with overwhelming bipartisan support. I think there's a good chance it'll pass unanimously, and I think there is a good prospect of this bill being passed into law.
There are two other bills called Coosa and Kappa, that are both dealing with things like online predators targeting kids, and I think there's a real possibility of all three of these bills being put together and brought to the Senate floor, and I'm hopeful we can pass all three of them.
We'll keep you updated on it.
It's so important, especially preventing children under thirteen from having access these social media sites and also, as you mentioned, programming those algorithms for teens younger than seventeen.
This is really important.
Job well done, and we'll keep everybody updated on how this looks moving forward.
Well, that's right, and you look, I'll say something also as apparent. I mean, I mean, these are hard issues. And one of the things I talk to a lot of parents, I don't know a parent who disagrees on this issue. And that's true, right or left, that's true regardless of politics. We're all worried about our kids. I mean, it's really it's hard to be a teenager right now. The pressures on our kids. You and I didn't have these kind of pressures when we were teenagers. It's really tough.
Is what is.
All of the influences that are pounding our kids. And it's hard to be a parent right now. And one of the challenges because some people say, well, parents ought to just restrict this. Look, it is a hard dynamic when your kid when every student in their class is on the social media platform, when that's how the kids communicate, when that's how they schedule playdates, when that's how they interact.
No parent wants to socially ostracize their kids. And so a lot of parents will talk to each other and say, I wish they were all off of it, but I'm not willing to have my kid the only one that's not able to interact with their peers and have a social life, and that's one of the reasons why, you know, it's interesting in the Senate the folks that are coming together and supporting this bill. So myself and Brian Shots and we've all also got Katie Britt. We're all about
the same age. We're all in our forties or fifties, we all have kids the same age. I have to say the senators that they're in their seventies or eighties, they don't quite get this issue in the same way that if you're a parent, you're dealing with it.
And so I'm.
Hopeful that that that we'll see some real bipartisan agreement that we ought to enhance the tools parents have to keep their kids safe.
Yeah, great point.
We're going to keep you updated on this legislation as it moves forward.
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