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It is Verdict with Senator Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator, this show is going to be one that is going to irritate a lot of people. The Biden new rule that he wants to put on the American people will redistribute high risk loans and that will cost homeowners with good credit more money to get a loan. In translation, what he wants to do is give a bonus reward bad credit, bad credit scores, and then those that have good credit will pay higher interest rate. This isn't a joke.
This is redistribution of a new way of doing it. I guess you could say center with Wealth. Your reaction, well, it's even worse than that. So this is a proposed rule that has come from Fanny May and Freddie mac. Fanny May and Freddie Mack are government sponsored entities that purchase mortgages and they have an enormous impact, a dominant impact in the home mortgage market. And under Joe Biden, they've rolled out new rules. And the new rules do
two things. Number one, they benefit you if you have a low credit score, So if your credit score is bad, if you've defaulted on rent payments, if you defaulted on your mortgage before, if you fail to pay credit cards, if you have a low credit score, your credit is cheaper.
And then the flip side is if you've been responsible, if you've done the good work of paying your bills, if you paid your rent on time, if you've had a home and you paid your mortgage on time, if you've had a credit cards and you paid them off, they penalize you.
They charge you more. If you have a good credit score. Now it gets even dumber than that. If not only do you have a good credit score, but you've actually been responded, well, you've saved, you put money in the bank, and you're putting down a twenty percent down payment. They jack your fees up even higher, they charge you more. And I gotta say, look, I've actually found in the last two weeks, I've had multiple people come up to me and in conversations and raise this with me, because
this is infuriating. This is asinine on the on the one side, on the subsidizing people who have lousy credit scores giving them cheaper loans even though their credit scores are lousy. What that is going to produce is that is going to produce another two thousand and eight housing crisis.
What this is is the Bided administration trying to convince people with low incomes, with bad credit, without the ability to pay a big monthly bill, so nonetheless take out mortgages and to take out mortgages for more than they can afford. And we know they're going to end up defaulting on those mortgages. That's what a low credit score means. That's what you don't want people taking out a mortgage that is too big for their income. But if you
are a Joe Biden naive socialist, it sounds great to you. Hey, let's encourage these guys, get them in a mc mansion and then well, if they can't pay their mortgage, oh well we'll deal with that then. But the flip side of it, I want everyone sitting here listening to think about this. Have you been responsible? Have you built up a good credit score when you're buying a home. Have you saved money so that you have money for a down payment. In any normal world, if you have a
down payment, your fees are lower. If you don't have a down payment, you pay a lot higher. Why because it's much riskier if you're getting a mortgage with no down payment, the odds are much higher that you'll default and the bank will lose their money. Well, the Biden administration, to give you a sense of this, the rule they announced would charge home buyers with credit scores of a six eighty or more an extra forty dollars a month on home loans of four hundred thousand dollars or more.
That is insane and welcome to bizarro world of the socialist wanting to penalize you for doing the right thing.
You know.
One of the things that's so amazing is this is being done at a time when interest rates for mortgages have roughly doubled over the past year. I know how much I saved when I bought my first house, and I bought my first house at the courthouse steps in foreclosure, trying to make a good financial decision. I remember sacrificing to get that credit score to the highest number I could get so I could get that won. I remember the rules of what they said to do and don't
do it. Don't open up any type of credit card, don't open up any line of credit. Don't go out and buy a car. Don't go out and do this because home ownership I believe shouldn't be easy as going out and buying a value mil at McDonald's. I think
there's responsibility that comes with most Americans would agree. You go back to US An eight, which you mentioned center in two thousand and eight, you could walk in and you could get a loan by just putting your name on a piece of paper and just telling somebody what your income was without even having to verify it in many cases, and that's what caused that housing crisis. It's like they didn't learn their lesson and it's a quick way to buy some votes by saying, look what we
did for you. We rewarded your bad behavior, and we rewarded your failure with a lower interest rate, So vote for us.
Look, that's exactly right, and the results of this are are really significant. The interest rates are actually even worse than that. So when Joe Biden became president, the average home mortgage interest rates were between two and two and.
A half percent.
A year ago, the thirty year mortgage rate was five percent. Right now, the average thirty year mortgage rate is six point twenty seven percent. So think about that journey. It went from two and a half percent before Biden became president to six point twenty seven percent. Now that is crushing already. And now they're coming in and artificially saying, if you have a down payment, we're gonna punish you. If you have good credit, we're gonna punish you. And
let me give you some math on that. So beforehand, a borrower with a seven hundred credit score and a twenty percent down payment would have paid an up upfront fee equal to one point twenty five percent of the loan amount. That is, let's say on a three hundred thousand dollars loan, that's three thousand, seven hundred and fifty dollars. Now, because you have good credit, because you have down payment, your fee has risen from one point twenty five percent
to one point three seven five percent. Or in other words, if you're taking a three hundred thousand dollars loan, it's gone from three thousand, seven hundred and fifty dollars to four thousand, one hundred and twenty five dollars. They are punishing you because you did the right thing, and in turn, they're subsidizing you, uh, if you did not do the right thing.
Yeah.
In other words, they're forcing people that are responsible with good credit to pay more for their mortgages so that you can subsidize those who are higher risk borrowers. And they say that is good for this country. I don't know how anyone can think rewarding bad behavior is a good thing. Yet here is what the Democratic Party is doing. And I want to ask you about what this is rooted in, Senator, because there's a lot of people that look at this and they think themselves, this sounds a
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I've been taking now for two months Chalk choq dot com promo code Ben Senator, I want to get back to this idea of socialism. When you start taking from the responsible, not even the rich, We're just talking about responsible homeomeowners. And you start taking from and penalizing responsibility to then quote level of the playing field, you're bringing everyone down into the same group and putting everybody's loans at risks at a much higher risk of failure. When
you do this. We know this from two thousand and eight housing bubble, that many people live through and there's people say, this is basically what socialism is.
Look, it's exactly what socialism is.
And it is the pattern of the left wing. It is the pattern of the Biden administration. You look at the pandemic where Democrats paid massive amounts in unemployment benefits, and you want to really see the difference. In the middle of the pandemic, I introduced an amendment to cap unemployment benefits at whatever your salary was in your prior job. And I stood up on the Senate floor and I argued, Look, lots of people have lost their jobs, many of them
not their fault. It makes sense to provide enhanced benefits for a limited period of time, but should not get a pay raise because they lost their job. So we should cap unemployment benefits at whatever they were making the
day before they lost their job. Now, on the other side, Dick Durbin, Democrat from Illinois, stood up and argued on the other side, and actually, if you go google and listen to this debate, it captures much of the difference between Democrats and Republicans because Dick Durbin made it a morality plate. He stood up and said, see, see that's the problem. What Ted is saying is if you lost your job due to the COVID pandemic, you're a lazy bum.
You just want to sit on your couch. You're just a reprobate.
And I actually got up.
In response and I said, well, no, no, no, that is not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is I believe in incentives. I think people respond to incentives, and I want good incentives and not bad incentives. And I said, for example, if you're a single mom, you've got a couple of kids, and the government steps in and says we will pay you twice as much not to work as you can make working. I believe you love your kids. I believe you're going to make the decisions you think
are best for your kids. And so if the government pays you twice as much not to work as to work, you're going to stay home. But the problem is that's really bad for you, that's really bad for your kids, and that's really bad for the country, as millions and millions of people do that. We voted on the Senate floor and Benett was a straight party line vote. The d's all lined up behind Durban, the rs all lined
up behind me, and so it failed. And during COVID, the federal government paid people in many instances double or even triple what they made in their jobs not to work. And I got to tell you, as I talk to business owners in Texas and I do so every week and over again, they raised the problem that they can't find qualified workers because the government has been paying people not to work for so long. Here's a radical concept.
If you pay people not to work, they don't work. Yes, the same principle here is true if you penalize people for being fiscally responsible, for having the discipline to build a good credit score, for saving to have a down payment, all of which, look, with our kids, we'd advise them to do that. That's fiscally prudent. If you penalize them
for doing that. On the other hand, if you reward them and subsidize them for being fiscally irresponsible, you know what, you get more of the bad stuff and less of the good stuff.
Last question on this, and it goes back to something we talked about on the podcast a couple episodes ago, and it was the shocking lack of oversight with what happened with Silicon Valley Bank and the fact that this new rules were made out of thin air to protect
large depositors at these banks. If you now do this with mortgages, is this not going to squeeze out community banks and smaller banks with these types of risk that you're asking them to take, Because what you're saying is, hey, we're basically telling you you've got to start taking risky loans again, which is exactly what happened to oh eight. They're going to be subsidized by lessless risky loans with higher credit scores. That is a lot for a smaller
bank and community banks to take on. What's the government's response going to be to that?
Well, that problem is less acute than you might think because the way home mortgages tend to work is that a community bank, a local savings and loan will issue us a home mortgage and they promptly will turn around and sell it on the second derry market. And so for most of these local banks, they don't keep the
mortgages on their books. They sell them fairly quickly. Now, what happened in two thousand and eight is they would sell those home mortgages and then Wall Street banks would package up the mortgages they would slice them up into derivative products, and so there was trillions of dollars invested in the home mortgage market, and they created all of these esoteric financial products that were based on mortgages in
the secondary market. And it was based on this really naive assumption that number one, nobody's going to default on their mortgage, and number two that home values will always go up and up and up. It was basically a Ponzi scheme. It worked as long as your home value was more this year than last year and was going to be even more next year than the year before. Suddenly, when home values hit a pause, or in many markets, when home values went down, people began walking away from
their mortgages. People were underwater on their mortgage, they owed more on the house than it was worth, and they left. That produced a cascading cycle of defaults, which in turn destroyed major banks on Wall Street because by creating these credit derivatives, they amplified the.
Risk to an enormous extent. And so.
Doing this imposes systemic risk on the financial system and on the banking system, But it is less the dynamic of the local community banks being subject to it, and more the overall financial system. But look, if you're a socialist, if you're Elizabeth Warren, you don't care because if there's another financial wipeout, the federal government will step in and print a few trillion dollars and just bail everyone out again.
Socialists believe that there's no limit to how much money you print and that the government can always bail people out. And it's amazing. This policy. I got admit, this policy pisses me off. And it pisses me off, not only because they're repeating the mistakes of the past. That they are encouraging people to take out mortgages they cannot afford, which puts them much more likely in a position to default. But the flip side, the idea that you're punishing people
for doing the right thing and being responsible. It's asinine and I challenge Look, this podcast. We have lots of people who listen to it. We have lots of young people who listen to it. I want to encourage everyone who's in high school, everyone who's in college. We have a lot of high school and college kids that listen to this podcast.
Raise it with your classmates. You think this is a good idea.
If you're a teacher, if you're a high school teacher, if you're a junior high teacher, if you're a college professor, raise it with your students.
What do you think?
What do you think PERSONA paid their bills on time, was really responsible, build up a good credit score, saved money, how to down payment. The Biden administration is going to charge that person much more for their mortgage then person B, who went out and partied like crazy, never saved any money, failed to pay their bills, failed to pay their credit cards, defaulted on their mortgage, defaulted on their rent. They get a much cheaper mortgage than the person who was responsible.
And look, I don't know how you defend this in any group of ordinary people. It is asinine and it shows this is what socialism is.
Senator, I also want to get to something else. Jennifer Granholms says that she supports now and this goes back to indoctrination. It's very much like the loans we were just talking about. But this is now about requiring the US military to adopt an all electric vehicle fleet by twenty thirty. Before I do that, though, let me tell you about our friends over to got some precious metals. How would you like to get your hands on a free pure gold coin, you can just learning about how
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fleet by twenty thirty. But that's exactly what she has now called for before Congress. Here it is sport the military adopting that EV fleet by twenty thirty.
I do, and I think we can get there as well. And I do think that reducing our reliance on the volatility of globally traded fossil fuels, where we know that global events such as the war in Ukraine can jack up prices for people back home, it does not contribute to energy security. I think energy security is achieved when we have homegrown clean energy. It is abundant, like you see in Iowa. We think that we can be a leader globally in how we have become energy independent.
All right, I'm going to ask you some questions Center that I know the answers to, but many people listening are going to want answers to these same questions that I had to figure it out, all right. Number One, if we're going to war let's say in the Middle East, let's say Afghanistan, and we show up with a bunch of electric vehicles, where are we going to charge those vehicles? And how much of a risk could this be to our military readiness around the world? Or is this just
only a Kumbaya story in America alone? And then if we actually have to go out in front of war, we'll go back to gas cars.
So listen, we're not And this is an example of how the modern left. These are not serious people. These are not people who are rational, These are not people who live on planet Earth. What Jennifer granholmen. She is the US Secretary of Energy. She's supposed to know something about this. She's not just supposed to be gosh, I think we'll all be on windmills. She's actually supposed to have substantive knowledge about this. What she just said is
so idiotic an asinine that it really defies that defies words. Okay, twenty thirty today is twenty twenty three. That would be seven years from now twenty thirty. She wants the entire military fleet electric, so let's figure out how that works. Let's say we're in a shooting war in say Ukraine, and our tanks are all electric. What the hell do
you do when they run out of a charge? Do you ask putin, Hey, Vladimir, would you mind setting up charging stations every hundred miles because we'd like to have a bunch of tanks in theater. And if they run out of charge yards, we're screwed. Or maybe China may maybe she and China if we're in a battle dealing with China and we've got, I guess, our ships that are all electric. We've got our helicopters that are all electric. We've got our F thirty fives that are all electric.
Mind you, how the hell that is that going to be? She wants our entire fleet electric?
Listen.
I've been to the F thirty five plant plant in Fort Worth, Texas.
The plant is a mile long.
It's spectacular watch how they assemble F thirty fives. Apparently the Biden administration believes those will be all electric. That you'll land your F thirty five at a Walmart and just plug into the outlet there like this is not even.
Is it fair to say it's not even it's not remotely doable or logistic. I mean, how many charging stations are there in Iraq?
Are in after No person who's serious believes this is anything other than stupidity.
Yeah, this is this is this is the kid, This is the Easter Bunny Santa Claus, except they're trying to use that and put it with the US military adopting an all electric vehicle.
It's actually a good example. Yeah, the Easter Buddy will just go smite our enemies. Like there's no technological path for this. This makes no sense. But this is the modern left. When you ask the modern left, the people who likes the Green New Deal that they want to get rid of jet fuel. Okay, well, how are planes gonna fly? I don't know. I guess you know, you put a windmill on the front of the plane. Like, and let's be clear, our servicemen and women are depending
upon our equipment to keep them safe. Let's say you're a tank commander. These morons want you to drive an electric tank. What do you do when you're headed through Iraq, when you're headed through Afghanistan, when you're headed through Ukraine, when you're headed through Taiwan. In your tank and you run out of charge, like, look, we won World War One, We won World War iiO using diesel.
And imagine, imagine Afghanistan. You had these quick actions response teams. Can you imagine if a quick action response team gets a call to go out and either get an asset to grab a guy like Khalid shik Muhammad, for example, the NA Master nine to eleven, They're like, well, hold on, we're to thirty three percent charge on our humbies. We're gonna have to wait another two hours for this thing to charge.
And it's one of the things actually that I found very interesting. So I've been in the Senate now eleven years. I spent six years of the Senate Armed Services Committee. One of the massive advantages of the American military compared to any other military on Earth is logistics. We are really damn good at logistics. When you're fighting a war, moving personnel, moving equipment, moving ammunition, moving fuel, getting it for forward projected to be able to be engaged in
theater is really damn complicated. Why is it that the Russians are getting their ass kicked right now in Ukraine? Part of it is because the Russians are really bad at this that they're sending their troops forward and they're having trouble getting the equipment they're needing. They're having trouble getting the fuel they need, They're having trouble getting the ammunition they need. The US military is spectacularly good at this. But if these are electric weapons, what are you going
to do. You're in the middle of Afghanistan, Go get a five hundred mile long extension cord. It's idiotic. And look, Jennifer grhand Home. You know, if she were just a TV pundit saying, well, gosh, this sounds wonderful. Okay, that would be silly, but it would not be consequential. She actually has a position Joe Biden has given her that
is very consequential. She is the United States Secretary of Energy, and she believes in seven years the military, we'll just plug everything in and be just fine to keep our men and women safe. That doesn't make any sense.
No, it really doesn't. Finally, I want to talk about saying that every parent needs to be paying attention to, especially with the upcoming elections, and that is the Left really coming after our kids. This happening in a Vermont elementary school. Now they're calling boys and men slash quote a person who produces sperm. This is what they're now
teaching your kids in elementary school. We also, at the same time, Senator, have a project Veritas Undercover report that's coming out, or that it's come out, I should say, revealing how the medical industry looks at transition surgeries one
hundred percent from a profit perspective. There was a doctor and a family medical medicine specialist at Saint Mark's inst for Mental Health in New York that was caught on camera saying we've got kids coming all the time deal with mental health issues, and instead of treating their mental health, what we're doing is we're telling them they should just transition, and then we're making money off of people with mental
health issues. It is disgusting to see this happening in this country, and you're trying to help stop some of this.
Well, that's exactly right.
You know, there's a thread bend between the three stories we're discussing. All three of them are asinine leftists. You look at woke school districts. So there's a district in Vermont, the Essex Westford School District. On April twentieth, they set out a letter, Dear fifth grade families and caregivers. So
this is the fifth graders, this is elementary school. And the letter says, among other things, in an effort to align our curriculum with our equity policy, teachers will be using gender inclusive language throughout this unit with any differences. We strive to use person first language as best practice. You will see examples of this below. We will be
using the following language with students. Person who produces sperm in place of boy male and assigned male at birth, and person who produces eggs in place of girl female and assigned female at birth. So, among other things, understand like the ridiculous phrasing that leftists had adopted, like twelve minutes ago of assigned male at birth and assigned female at birth. That's no longer woken up, Like give it a signed. Male doesn't exist. Female doesn't exist in these bizarre worlds.
They live in.
Person who produces sperm, By the way, let me ask you. You've got little boys, You've got boys who are pre puberty. Boys who are pre puberty are not producing sperm? What the hell are they?
In this language?
Like on that definition, you're not allowed to say boys. So a three year old, a three year old's not producing sperm. They haven't hit puberty and yet and by the way, these are letters going to fifth graders, some of whom will have hit puberty, some of whom will have not a person who produces eggs.
It is.
So extreme and idiotic, and this these are the people in charge of educating our little kids.
Yeah, you and doctor named to this stuff. And then the scary part is if you can move them to that, and then you can convince them that it's normal to want to change your sex. There is massive money to be made. We saw this and those tapes that came out from Vanderbilt University where they were talking about the biggest perk of having a kid go through transitioning and hormones and everything else is that you get a lifetime patient worth hundreds of thousands and then into the millions
of dollars. You now look at this project Veritas video, and I want to play part of this because I think it's really important for people to hear just how sick, it's not even cynical, just how sick these people are. Knowing you're taking advantage of people with mental health issues and using them to line their pockets with massive amounts of medical bill dollars that are coming into them, and they know they have that patient their words forever. Before I play that, I want to tell you real quick
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The voice you're gonna hear first is of doctor Matthew Pavis. He is a family medicine specialist with Saint Mark's Institute for Mental Health in New York, New York. Here's what he had to say about a twenty one year old that came to see them and how much money they could make off of him on your own pretty well.
Their lying, it's almost like, yeah, beginning, it's a lot of doctorvism, but you know, after a while you space it out and it's like every six to twelve months, which yeah, is being a patient, but it doesn't seem so bad.
I was under the impression that I was going to take a cure and be healed. And I didn't understand as a mentally ill child that I was signing up for lifelong medicalization.
That woman you just heard there, that man that transition to woman is now an advocate, and you just heard her what she said. I'm dealing with a mental health issue, and I was told that if I went through the transition, I would then be cured, and that didn't happen. Now you're going to hear Nero scart Scott, who's a licensed social worker with Adele Children's Medical Center in Austin, Texas. Listen, I can say from.
Here as well as there's a lot of part folks that are going to speculate.
Wealth for the amount of hossover between somewhere on the spectrum, and I'm also somewhere on the qua spectron.
As well, person on the spectrum as well.
Twenty one years old, he was coming here or at the time, well at the time he was coming different from health and he is getting his vagina next week.
Well he is getting his vagina next week. Came here for mental health and now we're going to give him, in his words, a vagina. You heard them talking about taking advantage of people on the spectrum and people that are on the spectrum. This is an Austin saying, yeah, these are great patients for us on the spectrum. In other words, we can manipulate them and tell them to go through a transition. We have a patient for life. That was three different people you heard there, three different
areas of the country, all saying the same thing. You want a patient for life. Don't worry about their mental health, just get them into transgender, all this dysphoria stuff, and will make money.
Look, this is utterly perverse. It is horrifying. It's big business.
You're right that that many of these hospitals are making millions of dollars from this. Their enormous financial incentives. And I got to say, as part of that project Veritas expose.
As they were.
Interviewing with Dell Children's Medical Center, Listen, Dell Children's Medical Center is an amazing children's hospital in Austin, Texas. Heidi and I used to live at Austin. I've been to Dell Children's, our girls have been to Dell Children's that it's a great facility. In the course of that project, Veritas interview the individual at Dell Children's Center said they will prescribe puberty blockers for children as young as eight
years old. Eight and so, just this week I joined with Chip Roy, a member of the House Representatives, a very good friend of mine who represents that area. The two of us together set an oversight letter to Dell Children's Hospital asking about this policy of giving puberty blockers to children as young as eight years old, stopping them
from the onset of puberty. Now, I guess in the Vermont public schools it would mean they never become boys or they never become girls because you stop them from producing sperm or producing eggs.
But it is.
Remarkable and that as young as eight they're willing to give permanently harmful medical treatment, treatment that can sterilize kids, that can permanently damage kids. And a few years later, many places are willing to engage in surgical operations to remove perfectly healthy organs, to castrate a child, to sterilize
a child. And I'm gonna say, as a categorical matter, no child, no eight year old, no ten year old, no twelve year old, has the maturity, has the self awareness to make a decision to sterilize themselves for the rest of their lives. And I think any parent who does that, any doctor who does that, any hospital who
does that, is engaged in child abuse. If an adult wants to sterilize himself for herself, that's a choice an adult can make, But an eight year old child doesn't have the capacity to make that judgment, an informed judgment. And any adult that facilitates sterilizing that child, I think is horrific. You have no right to sterilize a little boy, sterilize a little girl, and if that child decides later that he or she still wants to be he or she,
there ain't no going back. Once they've cut it off, once they've engaged in the medical treatments, the puberty suppressors, the surgical options, once that individual is sterilized. Once that child is sterilized, he or she will never have children.
Is this ending up a Republican v Democrat issue? Or are there Democrats that you've talked to that are willing to see this for what this is, which is just pure evil that needs to be stopped. It's being done to these children. You can hear it. It's all about
the cash. It's all about the money. It's about taking advantage of people on the spectrum, taking advantage of people with mental health issues, and profiting from their mental health issues that they need to actually get treatment for well man.
I think there's a distinction on that. There are lots of Democrats in America who are horrified about this. Ordinary people. If you're living a life, if you're an ordinary person, if you happen to be a Democrat, you hear people talking about sterilizing eight year olds, and an ordinary person, it's horrified. That's the natural reaction to that. But here's
the sad thing. If there is a single elected Democrat in Congress who is horrified by this, I don't know who they are, and none of them are willing to speak out. This is where congressional democrats, they've gone to the extreme left. There used to be moderate Democrats in Washington. There aren't anymore. And the dynamics, if you're an elected Democrat in Congress, you are responsive to the extremes, to
the radical fringe. And so I literally cannot tell you a single Democrat Senator, a single Democrat house member who has hadess And by the way, maybe you do or don't have gahonas. Maybe they are or not producing what makes you male or female in this weird or welly in world. But I don't know of a Democrat who's dared speak out against this.
Yeah, it's truly a sad subject. And I hope more Democrats will come out who are elector officials, and let's start just one, yeah, and just put it together and say this is not a republican democratic issue and should never be looked at that way. Center always a pleasure, don't forget. We do this show Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays. If big news breaks, we'll even do another day in there.
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