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Biden Abandons Americans in Mexico, Huge Victory for Free Speech, Fauci Fakes Covid Study & Shocking Video of Jan 6th Shows Dem Kangaroo Court

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Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, and we have got a lot to talk about today, Senator, and I want to give a roadmap for people because there's so much news happening. First off, a big victory, and we're gonna get to this. First, dealing with a nomination someone from the Biden administration that's actually been pulled. You're going to give that update. Plus what's going on in Mexico with the four Americans that

we're taking hostage. Two of them have died. We also have another issue with Fauci emails. And finally January the six, Senator, let's start with this big information, big news of victory of the fact that President Biden's nomination of Gigi Son to serve as a commissioner of the US Federal Communications Commissioners the FCC has been pulled. How did we get there? I know that something you talked about on this show early on, and we're leading the way saying she was

not qualified. Well, this is a huge victory. So Joe Biden had nominated Gigi Son be a commissioner of the FCC, the Federal Communications Commission and many believe that Biden intended to name her the chairman of the Commission if she had been confirmed. Ggsone has been a left wing activist her entire life. She is a hardcore activist. She had repeatedly denounced Fox News as an enemy to democracy, as

a threat to democracy. She had demonstrated a willingness to use the powers of the SEC to deny licenses and to otherwise used government power to silence conservative voices. And she had a remarkable pattern of just being a partisan activist. So, for example, there was a group called Fighting for a Future that gigsone had supported for years, and every year she sent out tweets fundraising for Fighting for a Future.

Now GGE did this even though the group Fighting for Our Future had a long standing practice of attacking multiple Senators and multiple Senators on the Commerce Committee. If you're nominated on the SEC, it's the Commerce Committee that has to confirm you. So Fighting for a Future had put out billboards attacking Senator Marsha Blackburn is on the Commerce Committee with me. They'd put out billboards attacking Senator Dan

Sullivan is on the Commerce Commitment Committee with me. They had attacked Roger Wicker, who's the former chairman, forming ranking member of the Commerce Committee. But interestingly enough, Ben, they hadn't just attacked Republicans, They'd attacked a bunch of Democrats. So they'd put up billboards saying John Tester, the Democrats Senator from Montana, is corrupt. They'd put up billboards saying

Gary Peters, the Democrats Senator from Michigan, is corrupt. They'd put up billboards saying Kirsten Cinema, the Democrats Senator from Arizona,

is corrupt. And I'm Amazingly enough, this group also sent a letter to Chuck Schumer in December of last year, urging Schumer to fire Maria kent Well, the Democrat is the chairman of the committee, because the committee had yet confirmed gigisone, And after all of these solicitations, every year gisone would ask for people to contribute and support this, and so gisone had three different confirmation hearings, the most recent one a couple of weeks ago. I'm the ranking

member of the Commerce Committee. I led the fight against him. I walked her through each of these. I said, look, do you believe John Tester is corrupt? She says no, Do you believe Gary Peters is corrupt, she says no. Do you believe Kirsten Cinema's corrupt? She says no. Did you know this group was putting up these billboards and attacking these senators? And she said, well, I knew about the billboard attacking Cinema And I said no. Did you

raise money for her for them after that? And she said, oh, yeah, completely unapologetically. I laughed. I said, look, I don't know in ten years in the Senate that I've ever seen a nominee who supports a group that attacks half the senators on the committee that are supposed to confirm her. It was remarkable. Now, I'll tell you a funny epilogue to this. I said it the hearing. I said, listen, I'm kind of offended, like this group is attacked half

the senators here, but they haven't attacked me. Like, what do I have to do to get this left wing group mad at me? I would have thought I have done sufficient to attract their ire, and I'm feeling kind of neglected here. Now. This group they heard what I said, and I guess it prompted them to action. So they launched online a crowdfunding effort to raise money to put up a billboard attacking me. It's so it's the billboard as a picture of me, and it has a website,

Ted Cruz Hates free Speech dot com. I'm sorry, I was not expecting that to be the name of the website, but go ahead. So set aside that if there's I don't know that there's anything I love more than free speech. Yeah, other than God, my family in America. But free speech is intimately intertwined with that. But here's the part that's beautiful. Bad. This left wing group, they're really partisan, but they're not

very good. So they didn't actually buy the website. So the billboard that they were crowdfunding to raise the website was still available. So I bought it, and so I now owned the website Ted Cruz Hates Freespeech dot com. And I promptly turned it into a campaign fundraising website, and I tweeted out said, hey, I really appreciate you guys putting this billboard up and urging people to go to this website to contribute to my senate real life.

That's just an amazing thing. Any the best investment you've ever made in any website, every you may have missed the investment window on some of the big stuff, but at least you got that website. It was really so her record is extreme. It was she is a partisan advocate, and Biden was giving in to the radical left by trying to name her to the FCC because I believe he wanted to use government power to silence conservative voters, to attack Fox News, to attack conservative outlets, and to

advance an extreme partisan agenda. In the Commerce Committee, we managed to hold all the Republicans together and multiple Democrats expressed skepticism. Well, today mid day, Joe Mansion put out a statement saying he was a no. He was voting no, and about an hour later we got a formal announcement that Gigsone was withdrawing her nomination. The White House was withdrawing her nomination. Now I'll tell you I was actually sitting at lunch with my colleagues. All the Republican senators

have lunch together every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. So I was sitting at lunch at one fifty pm. The lunch typically runs from twelve thirty to two pm. At like one fifty pm, my staff director sends me a text and says, hey, We're hearing lots of rumors in town that Gigison is going to withdraw. And I'm like, okay, great,

how we're liable? Are these rumors? Are they real? And he's like, well, it's kind of the lobby crew in town, but most of their rumors have been pretty accurate on this, and so I'm like, well, try to nail this down. I want to know for sure. And then at about one fifty seven, so about three minutes before the lunch is over, my guys send me a text of the media stories that had just broken saying the White House had withdrawn her nomination. So I stood up at lunch.

It was the very end of lunch and I said, hey, just wanted everyone to let you know the news just broke about two minutes ago the White House is withdrawn gig sons nomination. I'll tell you, the entire Republican conference broke out an applause, and that's awesome, and I really I gave a testament to all of the Republicans on

the Commerce Committee, who state united, who state focused? You know, in my new role as ranking member, we tried very hard to work with each of their teams to help each of the members focus on a different aspect of her record, but it was a comprehensive effort to make clear she is not forced someone on an independent agency like the FCC. You want someone fair, you want someone impartial, you want someone who will respect free speech. This was a nominee who was not and as of today, this

nomination has been defeated. It's a success story coming out of Washington that we wanted to make sure people knew about because this is what happens when people expose these individuals and let everybody know. And this podcast played a pivotal role in exposing who this nominee was and why they were not qualified. And this is a victory we

should all enjoy. On the important thing. Ben also to underscore, look, we beat her in a Democrats Senate, which means if it were just a party line vote, if it were just all the d's vote yes, all the RS vote no,

she would have been confirmed. So to beat her, we held all the rs together, but we also picked off several d's and actually, from what I'm hearing, there may have been as many as four or five six Democrats who were going to vote no, and so that was really a big victory because I gotta tell you, Democrats senators have been willing to vote for some of the most extreme nominees I've ever seen, so to actually flip them was a great victory for free speech today. Yeah,

no doubt about it. It It was awesome. I want to get to this other issue, and there was a shocking issue of four Americans that were taken hostage in Mexico. Before we get into that story, though, I want to tell you about our friends at Chalk and Now you know how much the left hates real men, men that are masculine, and if you are getting older and you're losing a little bit of that edge, then you need

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going into Mexico. They were then ambushed. Two of them died. They were taken and thrown into the back of a white pickup truck. We saw this. The most shocking part for me was not that the cartels did this, It was the fact that the President United States of America had nothing to say about it when these at that point we didn't know if anyone had actually been killed yet of these Americans, and the White House was asked

about what is the President doing and saying? And the White House Press secretary all she had to offer the American people and these hostages was this thank you. I went on Mexico. I can tell you the President is aware and has been informed. That's it. You're an American, you're held hostage in Mexico. You're asked about it, and the White House says he has been informed. Senator, he is aware. That is all he had to say about this. And now we found out two of the four are dead.

Your reaction, look, Ben, I really wish we had a commander in chief. That reaction is pitiful. Anyone who kills an American citizen should face serious consequences, should be held to account. And the President was a wall. You had four Americans. The story as we know it right now. More facts may come out, but as we know it right now, four Americans from South Carolina who traveled down to Mexico so that one of them, a woman, could get a medical procedure at Tummy Tuck. They drove down

there in a rental car. And what's been being reported right now is the Gulf Cartel believed that they were Haitian smugglers, either drug smugglers or human smugglers, we don't know the exact details, and open fire on them and two of them were killed, the third was injured, shot in the leg, and the two that lived were taken hostage for several days, and the President publicly didn't say

a damn word. President ought to stand up right now, and he should have still stood up when they were taken before we knew their situation, and said release these Americans. America will not stand by while you kidnap Americans, while you shoot Americans, while you murder Americans. And particularly this happened just south of the US Mexico border, just south of our southern border. Let me say secondly, this crisis

was caused by Joe Biden. Joe Biden's open border policies have caused the worst crisis on our southern border in our nation's history. In two and a half years, we've seen over five and a half million illegal aliens crossing the border. We saw last year more than one hundred thousand drug overdoses in the United States, the highest level in history. More than half of those are Chinese fentinolf flooding across the border. But I'll tell you one of

the real consequences. So Biden came in, and Biden and harrissed together. In the first week, they did three things. They made three political decisions that caused this crisis. Number One, they immediately halted construction of the border wall. Number two, they reinstated the failed policy of catch and release, and number three, they pulled out of the incredibly successful Remain in Mexico policy. That combination of policy and political decisions

caused this border crisis. But let me tell you the real effects. According to the New York Times, in the year twenty eighteen, the drug cartels in Mexico made roughly five hundred million dollars. Now, let's and five hundred million dollars a lot of money. They were doing quite well last year. You know how much they made? How much?

Thirteen billion dollars and that six hundred percent more. Yes, it is without exaggeration, the single best thing that has ever happened to Mexican drug cartels and drug lords is Joe Biden becoming president. Their profits went up two thousand, six hundred percent thirteen billion dollars. By the way of that money, roughly half the money they make is from human trafficking, from bringing human beings across the border in horrible conditions of squalor and abuse, and roughly half of

it is from drug trafficking. So why do these cartels feel that they have the power to kidnap and murder American citizens? Well, when you're vicious terrorists, when you're violent criminals. When you're cruel and abusive, and you got thirteen billion dollars. Sadly, the impact in a country is terrible, and Joe Biden caused this. It is tragic and it's unacceptable. The Attorney General, Bill bar former Attorney General Bill bar was asked about this, and he obviously had to deal a lot with Mexico

when he was in charge under the Trump administration. He summed it up by putting it this way. The Mexican government is being held hostage by tens of thousands of paramilitary members of terrorist organizations that effectively control Mexico. It's pretty close at this stage to a failed narco state. They can use violence and oceans of cash to corrupt

the government. The government has no will and it doesn't have the ability to deal with the cartels, and they are sitting next door producing mountains of poisonous drugs and killing over one hundred thousand Americans a year, which was at the height of World War Two. That was our killed in action rate. So we are sustaining the same damage as we would in a major war from these

groups operating right beyond our reach. Senator, when you put in perspective the way that he did, talking about the number of people that have died, you know, the killing of over one hundred thousand Americans a year, which which was what we were dealing with the height of World

War Two, that was our killed in action rate. And we're sustaining those losses right now because of an open border, because of this president, and he doesn't seem to have any connection to reality or want to stop the death

of all these Americans. And even when Americans are being taken hostage, did you ever think you would see a day where a president wouldn't immediately come out to the White House Press briefing and say, I want to make it clear of the cartels whoever took these ammerins, you better return them or we will unleash holy hell on you. And if the Mexican government is the failure that was just described here by Bill bar that's basically a narco state. And you know that because he was just down there.

Why wouldn't you said this, Because you hadn't no honest ability to believe that the Mexican government was going to be able to find these people before two or three or four die well. Because Joe Biden is an unbelievably weak president. Listen Bill Barr, as you know, he's been a friend for a long time. For twenty years, we've had Bill Barr as a guest on this podcast when

he was Attorney General under Donald Trump. And Barr has spent a lifetime fighting for law and order, fighting against drug dealers, fighting against human traffickers, fighting to keep innocent people safe. And the condition in Mexico is tragic. These drug cartels are more powerful than they have ever been in the history of Mexico or the history of the world. And Joe Biden is making them powerful. He is making them incredibly rich by allowing their businesses to flourish and prosper.

And listen, Bill Barr is right that the Mexican government sadly has at best turned a blind eye to the horrific predations of these drug cartels, and at worst has been complicit in them. You know, it was really striking when Biden went down to Mexico and did a press conference with Amlo, the extreme leftist president of Mexico. Amlo praised him effusively in Spanish. We played it on this podcast.

He praised him as being the first president in modern times Republican or Democrat not to build a single meter of border wall. Now, Amlo was praising him for essentially abandoning his obligation to protect America and keep us safe. But that is also the praise of someone talking about a president the United States who Amlow believes is weak,

who Amlow believes is not formidable. You know, last night I went on Jesse Waters and Jesse asked me about Lindsey Graham had said we ought to send in the military, we had to kill these drug cartels. And let me be clear, I Lindsay's a friend, but I don't agree with his recommendation there. I don't think we ought to invade Mexico. I don't think we ought to be in

the business of invading foreign nations. But I do think the President ought to make unequivocally clear to the Mexican government, you will hunt down, you will send in the Mexican army. You will arrest these cartel members that murdered these American citizens. You will extradite them to the United States, and they will face the full force of the justice system in the United States of America. And you might say, well, Gosh, Amlow's too weak to do that. He's unwilling to do that.

I'll tell you what. When Trump was president, Amlo was terrified at Trump. When Trump was president, Amlo read to the Remain in Mexico agreement. He actually stationed thousands of Mexican soldiers on Mexico's southern bordering. You know, you look at the map, Mexico's southern border along Guatemala is much much smaller than our southern border, which is two thousand

miles between the United States and Mexico. If you want to stop illegal immigrations, one of the way, one of the ways you do it is you you seal the southern border of Mexico. Amlo did it because he was terrified of Trump. Because Biden is such a weak president. Everyone walks all over him. And sadly, these American citizens,

they're from South Carolina. Two of them lost their lives because of the drug cartels empowered by Joe Biden, and two of them were kidnapped, while Joe Biden remained silent and did not use the power of the United States

to defend those Americans. Yeah, it is a scary thing, and I think the part that was the most shocking for me was the fact that we only offered at fifty thousand dollars to get information about the whereabouts, and I said, wow, I'm basically worth twelve thousand, five hundred dollars. But if you come across the border illegally, you'll get far more than that from the US government. And we're

sending far more than that to people in Ukraine. That is again shows you just how low the American people are on the priority list of this White House. I want to be ben for what it's worth. I'd pony up at least thirteen thousand for information on you. Thank you, Thank you, at least thirteen I got your back. It's not your twelve five man, You're the entire United States government right now? Do I get to combine funds because

that's like almost twenty five right there. Look, I don't have a multi trillion dollars GDP, so you should feel really good. I just committed thirteen grand I'll be in trouble at home for that. I'm gonna get this in writing, Beaz if we ever go missing, we know, we know Senator Cruise has got our back on that one. I want to get to something else, and that is these By the way, thirteen. No one. I may be like new number who I don't know that that former person that I used to work with you. I can. I

can hear the press conference right now. At least I'd get a press conference out of it. That would be the good news. I got your back. Thank you, thank you. I appreciate that. I want to get in these emails with doctor Fauci that apparently these new emails are showing the doctor Anthony Faucci actually commissioned a scientific paper in February of twenty twenty to disprove the Wuhan lab leak quote theory. Before I get to that, I want to tell you about our friends at August of Precious Metals.

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Now these new emails uncovered by the House Republicans probing the COVID nineteen pandemic are now revealing the deceptive nature of doctor Anthony Fauci. They show that he prompted or commissioned and had final approval on a scientific paper written specifically in February of twenty twenty to disprove the theory that the virus leaked from a Wuhan lab in China.

Eight weeks later, Faucci also stood at the White House Press conference alongside Donald Trump incited that paper as evidence that the lab week theory was implausible, while pretending it had nothing to do with him and he did not know the authors. He was lying to the American people. Well, sadly, we've discovered that doctor Fauci is more than willing to lie to the American people, and he did so throughout

this pandemic. He did so an enormous expense to his own integrity, to his own credibility, and an enormous expense to the credibility of the scientific and medical community in this country, particularly in the government. This particular story was broken by Miranda Divine in the New York Post, and I got to say, Miranda Divine has done an extraordinary job breaking these stories. She's focused aggressively on it. You know, when Fauci talked about this paper, he described it as

a group of quote, highly qualified evolutionary virologist. They looked at the sequences in bats as they evolved, the mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now totally consistent with a jump of species from animal to human. So he continues, the paper will be available. I don't have the authors right now, but we can make it available to you. So he's laying it out

as this scientific paper. It came out in Nature magazine on February seventeenth, twenty twenty, but it was written four days after Fauci had held a call with the four authors to discuss reports that COVID nineteen may have been leaked from Wuhun lab and quote may have been intentionally genetically manipulated, and the article. On February twelfth, Anderson, one of the authors of the article, submitted the paper to Nature Medicine with a cover email, there has been a

lot of speculation, fairmongering, conspiracies put forth into space. This paper was prompted by Jeremy Farah, Tony Fauci, and Francis Collins. And Francis Collins was the head of the NIH the National Institute for Health. Ferrar was the head of the British nonprofit the Welcome Trust, which has deep ties to the pharmaceutical industry and the Gates Foundation and emails. On the day the paper was published, Ferrar was pushing through a crucial, crucial change. He said the following, this is

a quote. Sorrow. Sorry to micromanage, micro edit, but would you be willing to change one sentence? And his change was to replace the word unlikely with the word improbable in a statement about the lab leak origin, so it would read it is improbable that SARS COVID two emerged through laboratory manipulation of an existing Stars related coronavirus. If you look at it. Fauci knew what he was doing.

He prompted the scientist to write the article, and then he turns around and holds a press conference says, wow, look at this article. I don't know who wrote it, who knows, but they seem really credible. And you know what, it says the virus didn't come from a Chinese government lab. Now, mind you, that was false, and Fouche had all the evidence he needed to know it was false. He did

that in February twenty twenty. Remember this podcast in March of twenty twenty, one month later laid out the facts then that I think made it indisputably likely that it had escaped from a Chinese government lab. But doctor Fouch she didn't like that political story and so was willing to essentially fabricate evidence to prompt a scientific study that would enable him to turn around and say, gosh, I'm just following the science. When I believe he knew he

was misleading the American people. Yeah, the way he put it at that press conference just showed how how shady this was. Hey, get me this and then I'll cite it like I didn't know about it, Like you guys are independent and they're they're literally colluding on this on the own. I had a time. And then when he brings to the American peoples like I had nothing to do with this, just found this independent study and this

is par for the course. Now, with what we're finding out through these investigations, the question is, though, will there be any accountability for this? Fauci got paid, he got famous, he walked away from our government, being the highest paid bureaucrat on our payroll in our government. Do you believe that, even with all of this coming out, will there be any accountability? Because at this point, I think that's what

so many Americans want. They just want to know that somebody is going to get in trouble for what they did to us in this country with COVID lockdowns, etc. So, sadly, I don't believe there's going to be any federal criminal liability. And the reason is simple. Under our constitution, there's one person, and one person only on the face of the planet, that can bring federal criminal charges. His name is Merrick Garland.

He's the Attorney General of the United States. He is, as we've talked about on this podcast multiple times, I think the most political attorney general this country's ever seen. I've asked Merritt Garland repeatedly if he's willing to investigate Anthony Fauci, if he's willing to prosecute Anthony Fauci for lying to the Congress, and Merritt Garland has refused to

give a straight answer to that. As you and I said on this podcast at SEPAK last week, Merrick Garland might actually rival and even exceed Anthony Fauci for arrogance and self satisfied hubris. And that's hard to do. It is astonishingly hard to do. Both of them, I think have done enormous damage I think there will be accountability for Fauci number one in public opinion and public record.

It's one of the values. What we're trying to do in the Senate, what we're trying to do in this podcast, what the House majority is doing with its subpoena power and its investigation sunlight is powerful. More and more people are learning that Anthony Foul was a liar. But he wasn't just a liar. He was a deliberate liar. He knew he was lying. He was willing to put politics above science and medicine. And on the left, you know,

the left lives so often. And by the left, I mean democrats, I mean the bureaucratic estate of the regulators in our government, and I mean the media, the corporate media, that they live in a fact free environment where they have a narrative, they tell facts that they tell a story in the facts don't matter. And we now know not one but two agencies in the Biden administration admit what was obvious three years ago, which is that COVID

likely escaped from a Chinese government lab. At this point, the Biden Department of Energy has concluded that, and the Biden FBI has concluded that, and that means when Fauci was teeing up these quote scientific articles, he was deliberately creating materials that were deceptive and the American people ought to be really ticked off. Why was Tony Fauci trying to cover up for communist China and for its culpability in this pandemic? Yeah, no doubt about it. And more

this is coming out. We'll keep you updated on what is found. Specifically from the Republicans on the House side, is they're continuing to look into this. Finally, Senator, I want to talk about January the sixth, and these tapes have come out, They are being broadcast, the footage is being looked at the leadership of the Republican Party and in the Senate side, Mitch McConnell's saying he doesn't really like how this is going down, and I want to get your reaction that. Before I do that, I want

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you deserve to be arresting, go to jail. If you're breaking down windows, you deserved to be arrested and go to jail. But there's a lot of tape that's now coming out and it's nothing like nine to eleven, which Democrats have said that it was like that day. And now we're finding out about the lives of the January sixth committee, where apparently they were altering sound, they were

altering tape. The man who led that committee, Benny Thompson, was asked about this earlier by a reporter Carry Pickett at the Washington Times. This is what was said in the back and forth presentation that came out last night, calling generous sixth stink Washington Times. I just thought this

calling the generous six selectimitty liars. So you guys selectively edited the tapes, said that you guys pretty much to Tucker Carlson, particularly the way you guys it out, selectively edited clips, put in sound that didn't exist from the producers from the from NBC. That tell me, I just told you it's not true. Well, then that's not true, okay. Senator Hally theah clipped with him running by himself when the fact that there are a whole bunch of senators

who are actually running out together. When he was mocked. Is that true or is that not true? Senator Hally running by himself when he was running with a whole bunch of other senators. He was running with a whole bunch of their senators though he was running with a whole bunch of other senators. What about Jacob Chancelly, he was he was completely peaceful. Thank you, sir. I don't know him. Senator, this is the guy ran the January sixth Committee. He's saying, we didn't change any video except

when you see the raw video. It's very clear that the January sixth Committee, who hired TV executives to producers to come run their hearings, they edited the hell out of these tapes and put things up there that just didn't happen. The January sixth Committee in the House of Representatives was a kangaroo court. It was designed to be a political circus. Nancy Pelosi structured it so it had only Democrats and two Republicans who would go along with

the Democrats on everything. When Republicans wanted to put real Republicans who would stand up and actually cross examine witnesses, actually try to get to the facts of what happened. Pelosi said nope, nope, we don't want any cross examination, We don't want any facts. This is a political circus. So, for example, Kevin McCarthy wanted to put Jim Jordan on. Jim Jordan would have questioned the hell at every one of those witnesses. Nancy Pelosi said, oh, no, no, no,

our witnesses can't handle questioning. No, no, no no, we don't want him there. You know, an ordinary congressional committee, you have a roughly equal member of a number of members from both sides, which means every witness that comes before them gets questioned by both sides. And there's a virtue to the give and take of a hearing if you

think about it, a criminal trial. A criminal trial would be very different if the prosecution were the only people allowed to talk, Like if the defense lawyer didn't get to speak, you just had the prosecution present evidence. You know what, just about everyone would get convicted. It would take a terrible prosecutor who couldn't convict if the defense lawyer wasn't allowed to talk, wasn't allowed to question witnesses. That's what Nancy Pelosi did with a January sixth committee.

She basically set up it was and you mentioned they hired a Hollywood producer, a producer from Good Morning America to put on a political infomercial, and the infomercial was designed to tell one worry about January sixth. That was

deliberately one sided. And so I'm very glad Kevin McCarthy has handed the footage over from January sixth over to Tucker Carlson his show that he put out this week where he went through that video and he showed a lot of portions of video that were totally different from what that kangaroo court put out. And I think it's

important for the American people to know what happened. As you said a minute ago, Ben, anyone on January sixth who committed a crime of violence, anyone who assaulted a police officer, that person should be prosecuted and go to jail. You don't get to commit a crime of violence, whether I agree with your politics or I don't. Violence is a crime and you should go to jail. But anyone who engaged in peaceful protests who simply spoke what they believed.

There were thousands upon thousands of peaceful protesters there on January sixth who didn't violate the law, they exercised their First Amendment rights, and for two years we've seen democrats and the corporate media cynically trying to paint those little old ladies waiving American flags and singing God Bless America with the action of a much smaller number of individuals who committed crimes of violence, and so releasing this video

is really powerful to show. As you've played in that exchange with a Washington Times reporter, the January sixth Committee released a video and then added a soundtrack. It's like a sitcom, adding the laugh track. They added noise that's not in the video. Why because it made really good TV. Wow, it sounded scary. They put a lot of scary noise there, so that must have been what it was like. And my hope is that this video gets reviewed and gets made available to the public. I hope much more widely

than Tucker Carlson. I'm glad Tucker is making it available, but I think it ought to be available more widely so we can get a true and accurate picture of what happened. Those that committed crimes of violence can be held accountable, but those who are being persecuted for their political views, which is what the Biden administration can do. They can be exonerated, and this video is powerful on

both fronts. You mentioned the other day and you asked the question of the FBI about Ray Epps specifically, and I think we should go back to that because one of the things that Tuger Carlson focused on on his second show was Ray Epps. Here's thirty five seconds of what he showed in these videos that many people have never seen about Ray Epps, who you asked about the FBI. Listen to this tonight. We can tell you that at

the very least, Ray Epps live. In his sworn testimony to the January sixth Committee, Epps testified that when he sent the text messages to his nephew, he had already left the Capitol grounds to return to his hotel room. That is not true. The surveillance footage we found shows that, in fact, Ray Epps remained at the Capitol for at least another half an hour. You're seeing that on your screen. Now, what was Epps doing there? We can't say, but we

do know that he lied to investigators. The January sixth Committee likely knew this too. Democrats had access to the same teape, yet they defended Ray Epps. No honest investigation would do that. But the point of the January sixth committee was never to investigate anything. The point was the stage of made for TV show trial. I mean, we see that time stamp. You see that Ray absolutely slied about this. Have you still and is there any chance that we're going to get a straight answer on who

the hell Ray Apps is? And is he an informant? Was he put there by the FBI well sadly from the Biden Justice Department, from the Biden FBI? I think the chances are very slim. I would encourage podcast listeners go back and google a podcast we did a long time ago that is entitled who is Ray Epps? And we devoted an entire episode of Verdict to that question.

And it followed a Judiciary Committee hearing in which I was questioning senior officials from the Department of Justice and from the FBI, and I asked them about how many undercover agents they had at the protest on January sixth. They refused to answer how many of them? Did any of them engage in acts of violence? They refused to answer, did any of them encourage or incite others to engage in acts of violence. They refuse to answer. If you look at ray Epps his behavior at the time, where

he's urging people, we must go into the capital. Not just to the capital, we must go into the capitol. It's really quite remarkable. You watch the video, the crowd starts chanting at ray Epps, fed fed fed. The crowd believes he is working for the federal government. And I get to say, the lack of willingness to answer those questions from the Biden administration is incredibly troubling. Look, if

someone commits a violent crime, they should be prosecuted. But there's an exception to that, which is if the federal government incites that crime, if the federal government entraps someone. In other words, an undercover cop can't come to your house and say, hey, Ben, have you looked down the street. There's a liquor store there. Maybe we had to go knock off the liquor store. What are you thinking. You're like, oh, I don't know, I don't really need to come on, man,

we can do it. We can do it. And if you go knock off the liquor store, you know what, at your criminal prosecution, you can raise a defensive and trapman and say, wait a second, it was law enforcement who came up with the idea. It was law enforcement encouraged me to do it. I wouldn't have done it. I was sitting at home recording a podcast until suddenly someone knocked on my door and said, let's go knock

off a liquor store. The government can't do that. And so the question on January sixth, one of them most important questions, is to one extent, did federal law enforcement insight and entrap people into criminal violations? And the fact that Tucker has aired what appears to be video contradicting ray Epps's testimony that raises serious questions. And it's amazing the Democrats on the January sixth committee when ask about Yapps, they hate every single person who was at January sixth.

They're all evil, horrific insurrectionists except Ray Apps. And they defend him like crazy, which I got to admit, when you have hardcore partisans defending someone, that certainly raises some questions. Why are they defending him? And to be quit, Ray Apps has never been charged with any crimes, Absolutely true, And I don't know, maybe there is an explanation. But on the face of it, so there's another video where

he's in the crowd. He whispers in a guy's ear, and seconds later the guy starts tearing down the barricades to go into the Capitol. That conduct appears to be encouraging him to violate the law. We don't know what he whispered, but the fact that the FBI won't answer that question and listen, I get it as a general matter, your dad was in law enforcement for a long time. As a general matter, you send in an undercover cop, you don't admit who the undercover cop is, you don't

admit what he's done. And by the way, undercover policing is a legitimate form of law enforcement. January sixth was not a typical day. I don't think that's hyperbole to say the Democrats and the Biden administration have suggested it was a national tragedy on the order of nine to

eleven and Pearl Harbor. If they are going to maintain that's the case, the American people deserve to know what actually happened that day, and they need deserve to know what the precise level of culpability the federal government bears in the criminal conduct on that day, and yet the Biden DOJ and the Biden FBI remain dug in and animately opposed to any accountability. The FBI could answer this question, they refuse to, and it's because they ultimately don't think

the public has a right to know. I think that's represents a grotesque disrespect for the American people, no doubt about it. This may be one of my favorite podcasts we've ever done Center because we got to cover so much tonight. And I'll remind each and every personal listening right now, make sure you share this podcast with your family and friends. Also, hit that auto subscribe auto download button.

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