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Alito & Thomas Dissent, Tesla Terror gets a Pass & Democratic Disarray Week In Review

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  1. Supreme Court Ruling:

    • The Supreme Court issued an order blocking the deportation of Venezuelan illegal immigrants under an 18th-century law.
    • Justice Alito and Justice Thomas dissented, criticizing the decision as hasty and legally questionable.
    • The ruling was made without giving lower courts a chance to rule or hearing from the opposing party.
  2. Implications for the Trump Administration:

    • The ruling poses a challenge to the Trump administration's efforts to deport illegal immigrants.
    • The decision was seen as a significant roadblock, with concerns about its impact on future immigration policies.
  3. Procedural Concerns:

    • The dissent highlighted procedural issues, including the quick turnaround time for the ruling and the lack of jurisdiction.
    • The process was compared to emergency appeals in death penalty cases, where last-minute filings can lead to rushed decisions.
  4. Political Strategy:

    • The discussion suggests that the Democrats might be aiming to frustrate the Supreme Court justices to influence future rulings against the Trump administration.
    • The strategy involves creating legal and procedural hurdles to delay or block deportation efforts.
  5. Vandalism Incident:

    • We also mention a separate incident involving a Minnesota state employee who vandalized multiple Tesla vehicles.
    • The district attorney decided not to press charges, leading to frustration among law enforcement and the public.
    • The discussion touches on broader issues of lawlessness and political bias in prosecuting crimes.
  6. Democratic Party Disarray:

    • A discussion on the internal challenges within the Democratic Party.
    • Polling data shows declining confidence in Democratic leaders, with significant dissatisfaction among party members.
    • The potential for younger politicians to step forward and the impact of senior Democrats retiring are also discussed.

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Speaker 1

Welcome.

Speaker 2

It is Verdict with Ted Cruz, the Weekend Review, Ben Ferguson with you, and here are the big stories that you may have missed that we talked about this week. First up, Scotus getting involved in the deportation of Venezuela and illegals. It's interesting to see what Alito and Thomas had to say about it.

Speaker 1

We're going to break that down.

Speaker 2

Also, you know that Teslaitaris, well, some radical judges are saying, yeah, let's just let him go. Where's it happening and how are they getting away with it? That as well? And finally, yes, it's real CNN sounding the alarm that the Democratic Party is in total disarray. So is the Democratic Party over with? And are they just going to admit their socialists and communists and Marxists. Will break that down as well. It's the Weekend Review and it starts right now. I want

to move also to this second big story. And there's some people that are confused. I also think very frustrated by this Supreme Court halting the deportations of illegal immigrants and cases. Can you break down what this ruling is. Alito was in the descent here and the headlines over Easter weekend, people are like, wait, what, how, why is this happening. I don't understand how we're protecting people that

are legal immigrants. Yet again, at the level of the Supreme Court break this down, so it makes sense.

Speaker 3

Well, the Supreme Court early Saturday morning issued in order blocking the deportation of Venezuelan illegal immigrants under an eighteenth century law. And what it said is that they had to halt the deportations until quote further order of this Court. And I got to say, Justice Alito, joined by Justice Thomas, wrote a very fiery descent, really disagreeing with it. I'm going I'm gonna read you part of the descent. Here's what Justice Alito and Justice Thomas wrote.

Speaker 1

Quote.

Speaker 3

Shortly after midnight yesterday, the Court hastily and prematurely granted unprecedented emergency relief proceeding under the all Ritz Act. The Court ordered the quote government not to remove a quote putative class of detainees until this Court issues a superseding order.

Although the order does not define the quote putative class, it appears that the Court means all members of the class that the Habeas petitioners sought to have certified, namely quote all non citizens in custody in the Northern District of Texas who were, are and will be subject to the March twenty twenty five Presidential proclamation entitled Invocation of the Alien Enemies Act regarding the Invasion of the United

States by Trender Aragua and or its implementation. It also appears that applicants have recently moved to amend their class petition for Habeas corpus and their motion for class certification, so it is not clear if the applicants will continue to defend this specific definition or will argue for a new one. And although the Court does not specify what it means by the government, it appears that term is intended to embrace all the name defendants, including the President.

The Court did all of this even though it is not clear that the court had jurisdiction. The Allrits Act does not provide an independent grant of jurisdiction. Therefore, the court had jurisdiction only if the Court of Appeals had jurisdictions of the applicants appeal, and the Court of Appeals had jurisdiction only if the supposed order that the applicants

appealed amounted to a denial of a preliminary injunction. But here the order that applicants appealed was what they viewed as the District Court's constructive denial of their request for a temporary restraining order. That is, the District Court did not actually deny their most recent request for a TRO, but they inferred that it was constructively denied because the District Court failed a rule on that request before the

expiration of a truncated counts imposed deadline. The denial of a true TRO is not appealable, and here it is not clear that the applicant's TRO request was actually denied. Indeed, an order issued last night the Fifth Circuit held that it lacked jurisdiction. For this reason, it is questionable whether the applicant complied with a general obligation to seek emergency and junctive relief in the district Court before asking for

such relief from an appellate court. When applicants requested such relief in the District Court, they insisted on a ruling within forty five minutes on Good Friday afternoon, and when the District Court did not act within one hundred and thirty three minutes, they filed a notice of appeal, which the District Court held deprived it of its jurisdiction. Now a lot of that that jurisdictional language seems confusing, but

understand what happened. They went to the District Court and they said we want an answer within forty five minutes, and the court did not respond one where another forty five minutes. They immediately appealed and said, up, they haven't answered. That means you've denied it. And the Court of Appeals ruled that, well, we're not going to act on this, and unfortunately, seven to two, the Supreme Court jumped in.

And in fact, here's how Justice Leado and Justice Thomas end their dissent quote in some literally in the middle of the night, the Court issued unprecedented and legally questionable relief, without giving the lower courts a chance to rule, without hearing from the opposing party, within eight hours of receiving the application, with dubious factual support for its order, and

without providing any explanation for its order. I refused to join the Court's order because we had no good reason to think that under the circumstances, issuing the order at midnight was necessary or appropriate. Both the Executive and the judiciary have an obligation of of the law. The executive must proceed under the terms of our order, and this court should follow established procedures.

Speaker 2

So you look at this and what is this going to mean moving forward? And how big of a roadblock is this going to be for the Trump administration to do what they've said and promised the American people. And by the way, the American people voted for, which was we want to secure the border and we want to get rid of all the illegal immigrants that came into this country, especially those that are violent.

Speaker 3

Well, look, it's not clear how big a challenge it's going to be. The most distressing thing about this order was that it was seven to two.

Speaker 1

Seven to two is not good.

Speaker 3

It means everybody by Alito and Thomas voted to stay to halt the deportations of Venezuelans.

Speaker 1

It's not clear.

Speaker 3

Presumably they're going to write a more extended opinion at some point, and so we'll find out more their reasoning. But I got to say, look, look, these two stories, this story in the first one are connected because I will say the Democrats strategy in doing the full Ginsburg in some ways, I think their audience is not the American people. They've got to know somebody on the Democrat side of the aisle has got to know, Hey, this

is not earning US votes. When we say we're the party of illegal aliens and criminals and gang members and wife beaters, that's us that.

Speaker 1

You don't have to be.

Speaker 3

A rocket scientist when it comes to reading public opinion to know that's not the most popular of issues to stake your entire party platform on. But in many ways, they're aiming at a much smaller audience. They're they're they're aiming at five They're hoping to get five justices pissed off, and to get them pissed off enough that we see a series of Supreme Court orders against the Trump administration

trying to halt these deportations. Now, I don't think that's going to happen, but this ruling is troubling that it was seven to two.

Speaker 1

Alito's descent.

Speaker 3

Look, Alito was was very concerned about this, uh and and the procedural minutia that he that he recounts as is very unusual. Uh And so that dynamic it is a dangerous process.

Speaker 1

Uh it is.

Speaker 3

Right now, there's a little bit of a game of chicken, and I think what the Democrats are trying to do is piss off a couple of Supreme Court justices and get them to rule decisively against the president.

Speaker 1

That would be very unfortunate if that starts to happen.

Speaker 2

Simply another question, real quick before we move on, is part of this. Could it just be the quickness that they were asking for the ruling from the court. Is that something that you could change moving forward? Could that be part of that issue?

Speaker 3

Yeah, Look, it was done as an emergency appeal, and and they're there's another context to where this happens a lot, which is dealing with death penalty appeals. And when you have death penalty appeals, you have someone who's been convicted of a capital offense and they're set to be executed, and very frequently you have last minute appeals that are filed.

Speaker 1

And I'll tell you when I was a law clerk.

Speaker 3

I was a law clerk for Chief Justice Renquist in nineteen ninety six and nineteen ninety seven, and at the time, so this gives you a sense, you can now make a crack about how old I am at the time. The way we would get these emergency appeals is they would be faxed in, so they weren't emailed at the time.

They'd be faxed in and you'd get it off the facts and you would get say, if the midnight was if the execution was scheduled to happen at midnight, and by the way, if it was midnight on the West coast, that meant it was three am in d C. But if the execution was scheduled at midnight, you would get sometimes one hundred page appeal faxed in at ten thirty pm. And what would happen. So what plays out when that gets faxed in is is the justice who is the

lead justice for that circuit. So each circuit, each region of the country has a lead justice who is the justice to whom emergency appeals go. Initially, Chief Justice Renquest was the lead justice for the fourth circuit was concerned death penalty appeals, and so that was Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Maryland, West Virginia, and Virginia in particularly there were fair number capital cases. So you would get it facts to you, you as the law clerk, would read

through it. You'd have to read through it very quickly. You'd have to prepare a memo, write a memo, you then send it to your justice, and a lot of times, if this was at midnight or one or two or three in the morning, you'd have to call home and wake your justice up. Your Justice would be asleep. You'd call home, you'd say, Chief, we had an emergency appeal.

Speaker 4

Now.

Speaker 3

Now the Justice would know there was a execution set that night, and so would know that there is likely to be a call. But you'd call, wake your justice up and ask, Okay, here's the arguments, here's what I think about it. And you would write a memo from your justice saying summarizing the arguments in the appeal and

making the recommendation. So for Chief Justice Renquist, in virtually every circumstance, if someone was seeking to halt an execution at the last minute, he would recommend that that be denied. You would then forward it to the other eight chambers. To the other eight chambers, and there was a law clerk, So in the night of execution, at least nine of us were there till midnight or one or two or

three in the morning. And so when you would forward your memo, in a memo in a case like this, would be anywhere from two to maybe eight pages, depending on how complicated the issues were. They would then get your memo, and they've gotten the appeal as well, so they're reading the appeal at the same time. They would then call their justice, wake him or her up at home, and they would cast votes at midnight or one or

two or three in the morning. And a strategy that is still quite frequent when it comes to death penalty appeals is just throw so much crap at the wall that they're hoping that justices say, I don't know, I can't figure this out this quickly, all right, just stay the execution, halt the execution so we can figure this all out. And unfortunately that strategy, that that strategy can work.

That there may have been some of that that this was being done over Easter weekend very quickly, and it may be that the justices wanted to say, hold on a second, we want to understand what's going on here. That's possible, but I do think the democrats entire strategy is try to see if they can get a majority of the Supreme Court ticked off. And I don't think that's happened, but I do think that would be very dangerous and harmful if it did happen.

Speaker 2

Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, you can go back and listen to the full podcast from earlier this week.

Speaker 1

Now onto story number two.

Speaker 2

Which, by the way, also brings us to another issue real quick, and that is, I still can't believe this. There's a guy that went viral, a Minnesota state employee who apparently caused about twenty thousand, or over twenty thousand damages to Tesla's I'm going to say that, make it clear, plural, not one, but multiple. It has now led to a woke liberal district attorney saying, Nah, we don't really want to hold this guy accountable. Let's keep the lawlessness up.

As long as it's against conservatives and Elon Musk and Tesla owners. We're fine with that. No big deal, you're good man. We're gonna let you basically go on home.

Speaker 3

Well, there is a suspected vandal. He's thirty three years old. He is a government employee. His name is Dylan Brian Atta, and he was allegedly spotted keen multiple Tesla vehicles stripping their paint off while walking his dog around the city, and he caused over twenty thousand dollars in damage, vandalizing half a dozen teslas. So he was doing this over and over and over again. And by the way, if

this guy did this, he's dumb as a stump. Because tesla's all have cameras on them that video the person, any person who walks up to them, so he's doing it on camera. Because leftists number one, they're utter hypocrites. So they're claimed to care about the Green New Deal or complete lies because they've decided now to attack electric cars. Why because they hate Elon Musk. And understand, they hate Elon Musk not just because he's now supporting Trump, not

just because he's now cutting the government. They hate Elon Musk because he's a heretic. This is religion, and the woke leftist cultural Marxist religion five years ago lionized Elon Musk and they view him as someone who has betrayed the faith. And so this angry government employee, who as far as I know, has not lost his job despite being a brazen criminal, uh was caught keing and and

vandalizing six different teslas. And unfortunately, the the Hennemouth County District Attorney is a woman named Mary Moriarty, who is a left wing George Soros DA and she decided that that that that they're not going to go go after her. Uh, that that that that they're they're not going to charge him.

Speaker 1

Uh and.

Speaker 3

It is unfortunate. So the chief of police, Minneapolis Police Chief Brianohra said that the damage in each case was the equivalent of a felony. And the chief said in escathing statement on Monday, this is from The New York Post, that Moriarty's decision not to bring charges is frustrating for his officers in the public. And here's what the police chief said quote. The Minneapolis Police Department did its job.

It identified and investigated a crime trend, identified and arrested a suspect, and presented the case file to the Henneman County District the Keneman County Attorney's Office for consideration of charges. The case impacted at least six different victims and totaled over twenty thousand dollars in damage. Any frustration related to the charging decision of the Henneman County Attorneys should be

directed solely at her office. Our investigators are always frustrated when the cases they poured their hearts into are declined. In my experience, the victims in this these cases often feel the same. That's the chief of police and the sad reality it is that for leftists today, for elected Democrats,

they are now openly embracing domestic terrorism. They are now openly we played on this podcast before Chuck Schumer refused to condemn people fire bombing Tesla dealerships, people throwing molotov cocktails at Testa dealerships, people firing guns into tested dealerships. Somebody's gonna be killed. I don't want that to happen. I pray it does not happen. But this escalating violence is going to lead to a loss of life. And

the Democrats are celebrating it. And now the left wing DA's are saying, hey, you've vandalized cars and we decide we don't like the person who owns the company that built the car. Well, tough luck, sorry, Ben, We're gonna scratch up your car, we're gonna keep it. We're gonna do thousand dollars of damage and nothing you can do about it because we the Democrats, support domestic terrorism.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you're absolutely right. And there's also that just scary psychological aspect of it. If you know your DA won't go after the people that are going after your car, is it going to make you more or less likely to buy a tesla? That's part of the financial warfare against Elon Musk.

Speaker 3

And by the way, what's the DA going to do if they commit violence against you?

Speaker 1

What's the DA going to do if they commit violence against you? Yeah?

Speaker 3

Like, if this radical leftist is able to vandalize a tesla, how about if he walks up and punches the owner of the tesla in the face. Yeah, do you have any confidence that this left wing nutcase DA is going to charge the radical with punching someone in the face. Their view is, Hey, if you're punching a tesla owner in the face, that's an admirable act of resistance. It is lawless. And let me be clear, I disagree with the political views of Marxists and communists and leftists, but

I passionately oppose violence against them. And if anyone engaged in violence against a leftist, I would support prosecuting them and sending them to jail. Violence is never acceptable. And you know what, the Democrats can't say that because they support they refuse to condemn the violence against their political

opponents because it is part of their ideology. And we saw that tragically during the Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots across the country, where Kamala Harris most strikingly raised money to bail out of jail radical Antifa terrorists who committed crimes of violence in Minneapolis, same city. Because the Democrat Party is a party that supports violence in pursuit of their remaining in power.

Speaker 2

As before, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation on this topic, you can go back and dow the podcasts from earlier this week to hear the entire thing. I want to get back to the big story number three of the week you may have missed.

Speaker 1

All right, let's.

Speaker 2

Turn to the Democratic Party in disarray and it's a real thing right now and CNN is saying it, so don't trust us. CNN having a freak out moment on TV with new polling data and here is what they said.

Speaker 4

Yeah, this I think is a revolt, a revolt that is going on within the Democratic Party right now. Democrats and their leaders, I mean, take a look nationally, Hello Democrats on dem leaders in Congress, the belief that they will do the right thing when it comes to the economy. Last year, at this time, eighty percent believe that the Democratic leaders in Congress would do the right thing when it comes to the economy. Keep in mind this as Democrats, look at where we are now.

Speaker 1

That number has been.

Speaker 4

Slashed in half to just thirty nine percent.

Speaker 1

Holy Toledo.

Speaker 4

That is the lowest number by far in Gallup polling. The lowest previous was just sixty percent, which is twenty one points higher than this. Democrats hate, hate, hate, hate what they're congressional leaders in Washington are doing right now on the key issue of the day, the economy, and their confidence has fallen through the floor. Mister Berman, all.

Speaker 5

Right, Chuck Schumer is the Senate Democratic leader right now. How we're feelings about him, particularly in New York.

Speaker 4

Yeah, let's go to the state of New York. It's what's always on my mind. Right, We're in the state of New York right now. New York Democrats on Chuck Schumer view him favorably. In December of twenty twenty four, that was just a few months ago. It was seventy three percent. Look at where that number has fallen to in just a few months. It is now down to just fifty two percent. That is the lowest I could ever find and see on a college on how democrats

in Chuck Schumer's home state knew him. And keep in mind, if you're thinking about a primary challenge, it would be a few years away. But Alexandiocstio Cortes's favorable writing among Democrats is considerably higher in the sixties, so he is doing quite poorly in his own home state.

Speaker 6

Of New York.

Speaker 4

I never thought i'd see the day in which just fifty two percent of New York Democrats with you Chuck Schumer favorably. It's almost unfathomable.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's almost un fathomable. Now here's the takeaway for me, Senator. The fact that AOC has a higher approval rating than Chuck Schumer means the Democratic Party is dead. The Socialist, Marxist and Communists have taken it over, and now they're out with these old guys.

Speaker 1

We also saw.

Speaker 2

One of your colleagues, Dick Durbin, hanging it up, saying I'm out of here, I'm not running for reelection.

Speaker 3

Well, what is stunning about that is a couple of things. Number One, as they're relaying poll numbers that show Democrats unhappy with the Democrat leadership in Congress. The reason they're unhappy is they think Chuck Schumer is not crazy enough. They think of Keem Jeffries is not crazy enough. The problem and end. Listen, We're in a very polarized society. Both both sides are pulling further and further apart. But people that identify as partisan Democrats, they hate Donald Trump.

And I'm not quite sure what they want Chuck Schumer to be doing. Maybe lighting himself on fire on the Senate floor, running around naked, screaming at the top of his lungs. I don't know, you know, maybe they just want him to join AOC and Bernie Sanders on their Fight the Oligarchy tour. Oh to be clear, they're flying around in private jets to fight the oligarchy, which actually may symbolize today's Democrat Party more than anything else. They could do to get off their private jet and stand

up and say fight the oligarchy. And by the way, George Soros, thanks for the money. But the Democrats want their elected leaders to be even more crazy that. And this is after four years of absolute shambles of the Obama administration. And what's striking also about that clip you played is CNN, which is a propaganda outlet for the Democrat Party, is panicking that they can't believe it. They

are terrified. The media is in desarray. You mentioned Dick Durbin, the Democrat Center from Illinois, announced he was not running for reelection. Look, Dick Durbin is the number two Democrat in the entire Senate. He is number two only to Schumer, and he's calling it quits. He is also the top, the ranking member, the top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee. Used to be the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Speaker 1

And so they gut senior Democrats that are saying, get me out of this place.

Speaker 2

Well, and by the way, he said something that was really interesting, how low the bar has fallen. So Dick Durbin's excuse for why he is not running for reelection was, in essence, well, I don't want to become Joe Biden. And he put it this way in the interview.

Speaker 5

Listen, a senator yesterday, after you made your announcement that you would not be seeking reelection, there are number of Democrats who privately really applauded your choice, saying that it was that it was something the right thing to do, to step aside and perhaps let a younger generation of politicians step to the forefront. We know the idea of democratic elected officials and age has been a hot topic in recent years. Do you hope do you are we

without thinking? Do you think it is time now for younger politicians, the next generation to come forward?

Speaker 1

Well?

Speaker 7

I think this it's more complex. It is not just a question of a number, what your age is. Look at Bernie Sanders, for God's sake, still drawing thousands and thousands of people out for rallies and he's a few years older than I am. The bottom line is are you competent? Can you still do the job? That's the question the voter should ask. But should a new generation be interested in public service? You bet. I've spent my time in office trying to encourage younger people to get involved.

Speaker 6

Senator Durban it's Ali Vitally. I wonder if I can pick up on something you just said, this idea of are you competent? Are you able to do this job? In the Senate? As you see this push from the grassroots that Lamir is talking about here, do you think enough of your colleagues are asking themselves those fundamental questions about if they can continue to serve.

Speaker 7

I think so. I think if you're honest about yourself and your reputation, you want to leave when you can still walk out the front door and not be carried out the back door.

Speaker 2

I mean, you hear that, and it's basically saying, well, I'm not going to pull at Joe Biden, and other people need to look at this as well. He was a I think, clearly knocking Joe Biden and what he just said as.

Speaker 3

Well well, And nobody in that discussion acknowledge that Dick Durbin spent four years lying to the American people saying that Joe Biden was not senile, that he was mentally capable to do the job. By the way, CNN spent four years lying to the American people screaming that it was a conspiracy theory to point out what is obviously true and was obviously true then that Biden's mental capacity was severely diminished. I will say this, and actually it

might surprise you. I'm going to say something nice about Durbin. So I've served with Durbin for thirteen years. On the Senate Judiciary Committee, and I'll tell you what I tell any nominees that are coming before Judiciary, I tell them durban is the single most dangerous Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, because I think he's the smartest Democrat, and he is radical and extreme, but he's very good at sounding reasonable.

There are other Democrats that are radical and extreme, as Sheldon white House and Adam Schiff, but they sound like lunatics when they're ranting. Everyone knows their lunatics. Part of what makes Durbin such a dangerous questioner for Republican nominees or Republican witnesses is he's very good at masking his extreme policies in ways that sound much more reasonable than his colleagues. And so I will say for Democrats, seeing Durbin hang it up is a real loss to them.

Speaker 2

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