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It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you and Senator there are going to be many people that are going to listen to the show and they're going to be enraged that they haven't already seen the news that the mastermind behind nine to eleven is going to have his life spared in a deal that he made with the United States government.
Well, this week has been a very very good week.
If you happen to be a terrorist, if you happen to be someone who wants to murder Americans, this has been a phenomenal week because Joe Biden Kamala Harris just gave a gift to coleead Sheaik Muhammad. They agreed to take the death penalty off the table and spare his life.
It's an absolute outrage.
It's an insult to the families of all of those who were murdered on nine to eleven, And it sadly is something we predicted a year ago that this is what Biden and Harris were going to do. They did exactly that. Also this very same week, two illegal aliens from Jordan who tried to breach the Quantico base were allowed to walk free. They were allowed to post bail and they just walked free.
Again.
A very good week if you happen to be a terrorist. Not a good week if you want to keep American safe. We're going to talk about all that.
Yeah, it's a lot, it's an important episode. I also want to just say thank you to so many listeners. You guys have rallied for the people in Israel, and just a couple of nights ago, I was having dinner with the incredible team from IFCJ. Now, if you don't know the work that they're doing, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, that's why I want you to take a moment and to see what they're doing and get involved.
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involved support IFCJ dot org. Senator, let's just talk about a year ago, almost to the day you and I did this show warning after letters went to family members of the victims of nine to eleven that there was a possibility of a plea deal with lead Chack Muhammad, the mastermind of nine to eleven, that his life would be spared if he just said, Okay, fine, I'll plead guilty the charges. Now, to be clear about who Khalid shake Muhammad is. He's not just the mastermind of nine
to eleven. This is a guy that has confessed to at least thirty one horrific and barbaric attacks, including the nineteen ninety three bombing of the World Trade Center. On top of that, he was the guy that was there for with the beheading of the Wall Street Journal reporter
General Pearl. He was the mastermind behind the two thousand and two Bali bombings, and he was a man that was in charge with a plan to blow up the Panama Canal, he had active plans to assassinate Jimmy Carter, and a plot to blow up suspension bridges in New York City. Now, these are just some of the things that he was working on. Knew how to kill people.
He killed women, children, he killed police officers, firemen, first responders, and he was also accountable for killing American troops overseas after nine to eleven. And this administration just spared his life. Why would they make this deal except for the fact they say we just want to close down gem.
Well sadly, that's exactly it. It's all politics, all the time. And a year ago, last August, we devoted an entire podcast to focusing on the very real risk that this was going to happen, that the Biden Harris White House,
this is what they wanted to have happened. And they announced just this week that khleege shak Muhammad they've they've cut a plea deal with him and two other co conspirators, Walid Mohammad Sali Mubarik bin atash Boy that's a mouthful, and Mustafa Ahmed Adam al hau Sui, both of whom along with with Kleege Shake Muhammad have been in Guantanamo Bay since two thousand and three, and understand Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, and by that I mean really the
left wing radicals that surrounds them, because I don't know that Joe Biden wants anything other than just to have his Jello at four pm. But the radicals that run this White House and that are now trying to have a coronation for Kamala Harris, they came in with the objective. They hate GITMO, they want to shut it down, they hate that it exists, and in order to shut it down, this was the deal they wanted to cut. And understand, look nine to eleven, a lot of our listeners are
young enough that you weren't alive on September eleventh. What happened on September eleventh, two thousand and one, two nine hundred and seventy six people were murdered. It remains the most horrific terrorist attack in the history of our country. And colleague Shake Muhammad planned it and directed those executing it. And for this administration to say the death penalty is no longer a possibility, We're going to agree that you can go. You can leave Gitmo, you can go to
an American prison, and you will not face capital punishment. Well, let me quote retired police officer Jim Smith. He is the husband of Moira Smith, who was the only female NYPD officer who died in September eleventh. He said, when he heard this news, he felt like he'd been kicked in the balls. And here's his quote. The prosecution and families have waited twenty three years to have our day in court to put on the record what these animals did to our loved ones. They took that opportunity away
from us. They committed the worst crime in the history of our country. They should receive the high penalty. Or here's another quote. This is from retired cup Kathy Vigiana, who's the wife of NYPD detective Joseph Vigiana, who was
also killed on September eleventh. Here's what she said quote, I'm angry and disappointed that enemy combatants who killed thousands of Americans in our homeland are now able to exploit the US judicial system to their benefit, receiving support from American taxpayers for shelter, food, and healthcare for the rest of their lives.
You know, you get your head around this, and it's all about a feather in the cap, and that's how they look at at the White House. They were obsessed with getting us out of Afghanistan on the anniversary of nine to eleven. It cost Americans lives at the airport and countless people operators that risk their lives to save American lives, translators and others who were beheaded and tortured and killed after we left so abruptly, and they were kill lists that were clearly put.
Out for them.
They wanted to close quickly, not because it was the safest way to do it, to draw down in Afghanistan, but because it was a political moment that they wanted to say on the anniversary of nine to eleven, I ended America's longest war. That was the goal for Joe Biden. That's what he did. And they've been obsessed with closing Guantanamo Bay. And phase one of getting this deal done was the obsession with the left that, oh, we waterboarded
Khalide Sheik Muhammad. Yeah, the guy knew about a lot of plans and a lot of terrorist attacks, and he knew where we assumed asam Bin Lad and other terrorists were, and they said, oh, you should feel sorry for him. That should have never happened. He should get a plea deal. And then they just said, we're just going to run
out the clock here. And then we gave him lawyers, and we paid incredible amounts of money for his legal defense team with our tax dollars, and then we gave him incredible medical care and all sorts of other benefits. And now we're going to, as you mentioned, keep it live for us his life. But I go back to the victims here, and this is what pisces me off.
There are tens of thousands of family members that get a damn letter in the mail, YEP form letter, a form letter that just says, hey, the guy that killed your family, I'm sorry your dad or your mom or your grandmother had or your son or your daughter had to choose between burning to death and the twins towers
or jumping out the window. The guy who planned that is going to live now because we want to just move this off the books and we want to close down Gitmo for another moment like we had in Afghanistan that by the way, turn out to be a disaster.
And they get a damn form letter.
Well, listen, you're right that this White House, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, what characterizes every decision they make is they put politics first. They put their radical partisan agenda above the interest of Americans. Why do we have open borders.
We have open borders because they want to stay in power, because they wanted to let eleven and a half million e Gal aliens in because they think they'll vote for Democrats either now, some illegally now and the others in the future when they greet the manesty and give them voting rights. So if in the meantime people have to die,
that's a perfectly acceptable risk from their perspective. Why did we pull out of Afghanistan so incompetently in a way that resulted in thirteen servicemen and women being murdered, Because, as you just said, they wanted to announce we were out of Afghanistan on the anniversary of nine to eleven. It's all about the political announcement, And here this was about appeasing the leftists who hate the fact that Guantanamo exists at all.
Look.
The Police Benevolent Association president Patrick Hendry says he was inundated with calls from officers families after he learned of the plea deal, and he said it was quote heartbreaking and infuriating.
And here's what he.
Said, quote their loved one sacrifice is being disrespected and they are being victimized all over again. In these individuals masterminded an attack on our nation that not only claimed two nine hundred and seventy seven lives that day, but thousands more in the years since. Their crime merits the ultimate punishment. There should be no plea and absolutely no leniency. And I'll tell you what the firefighters feel the same way.
The Uniform Firefighters Association President Andrew Ansbrot said that FDNIS thousands of firefighters feel quote betrayed and disgusted.
And here's what he said.
Quote three hundred and forty three New York City firefighters died on that day, and hundreds have died since then. We're still losing three firefighters a month to the effects of nine to eleven Ground Zero. We feel betrayed and disgusted that they will not face the ultimate justice of the death penalty. That these terrorists were offered a plea deal which will allow them to live under old age with contact with their families.
I pause because I'm angry.
And if you know anybody that's lost a loved one, whether it's on nine to eleven, and you and I have friends that lost loved ones on nine to eleven, but we also.
Well, and Heidi and I lost to very good friends. We were very good friends with Barbara Olson. She was married to Ted Olson, who was the Solicitor General of the United States under George W.
Bush.
We had been with Barbara not many weeks before nine to eleven, and she was on the plane that crashed into the Pentagon. She lost her life on that day.
I had dinner tonight with I mean, as you know, I'm in Pinehurst, which is right next to Fort Bragger they renamed it being PC Fort Freedom or whatever they call it now, with a couple of different guys that signed up after nine to eleven. They're still in and we were having dinner and this subject came up, and it was sad to see their demeanor change because they are enraged because their friends died. They lost their friends fighting these terrorists. Their friends were killed by people that
were being trained and recruited by Khalichik Muhammad. One of the things that was brought up tonight at dinner. That made them so mad was they said. What people forget is Kalechik Muhammad was not just the master nine eleven. He was the master of the propaganda to recruit radicals into al Qaeda, and those radicals were the ones on the battlefield that were killing American soldiers. So it's not
just the people that died on nine to eleven. There were countless others that signed up to fight the tares after nine to eleven that were fighting against people that had been recruited through propaganda and training by Khalichaik Muhammad, who were then killed. By the way, he was never charged directly for their murders, right, And he said, so to be clear, now, you sent men and women in uniform, American men and women uniform to go kill these people.
You die.
And the guy who mastermind the whole damn thing that started at all is now going to live the rest of his life until he naturally expires. And you think Americans are going to want to sign up to fight for America, this is what they know happens after the worst tears attack on American soil in American history.
Well, and listen the media wants America to forget about nine to eleven, forget about the crazed theocratic lunatics who sought to murder us, who want to destroy us. And I will say, for those of us who are old enough to have been alive, every one of us remembers exactly where you were that morning. Where were you in the morning of nine to eleven.
I was in my college dorm room at Ole miss and my phone, my cell phone rang and it was a producer at Fox News because I was doing TV then, and he just said, turn on your TV and hung up.
It was the horror all across this country. Everyone life just stopped for me. I was in DC. It was the beginning of the Bush administration. I was working in the Bush administration. I was the head of policy at the Federal Trade Commission at the time. And that morning I was walking out of our apartment, literally at the front door, and my phone rang and it was Heidie and she had left earlier that morning. Heidi was working at the White House. And Heidi called me and said,
turn on the television right now. So I stopped. I went back to my apartment, turned it on and watched and we saw the twin towers the World Trade Centers, and we saw smoke coming out of the top of one of the two towers.
And early on.
We didn't know what it was. We didn't know if it was initially just that the early speculation was it was some horrible accident. Some pilot of a small plane had screwed up and crashed into a building. It was not immediately apparent what had happened. And as everyone's watching one of the towers with smoke coming out of it, the whole world watched in horror as we saw a commercial jet, a second commercial jet steer around and crash into the second tower, and the instant that happened, everyone
knew exactly what this was. This was not a tragic accident. This was a deliberate act of murder, a horrible act of terrorism. And there was a level of confusion, There was a level of just horror and disbelief. So Heidi at the time, as I said, was working at the White House. Initially, when the first plane hit, the Secret Service told the folks at the White House just stay where you are, keep working, and everyone's watching it. But
everyone's staying there. When the second plane hit, they ran through the hallways and they literally told people get out now, run, do not walk. Run, and so Heidie sprinted out. Her car was parked in an underground parking garage, so she couldn't get her car. They wouldn't let her get her car, and so Heidi proceeded to take off her high heels
and walk home barefoot. We had an apartment in Arlington, Virginia, actually just south of the Pentagon and shortly thereafter, so there was a lot of confusion about what was happening.
I'm watching TV.
I'm trying to get in touch with Heidi, but cell phones were not working very well. There was a period where it was being reported, I think on ABC that a plane had hit the White House, which obviously I'm having trouble getting Heidi, and so I'm very freaked out that she's in harm's way. She ended up walking across Memorial Bridge and walking home to our apartment, just just
carrying her high heels. And the plane that had been reported that had hit the White House is actually the one that struck the Pentagon, and as I mentioned, Barbara Olson, our friend, was on it, and Barbara actually picked up her cell phone on the plane and was able to contact her husband, Ted. She got Ted on the phone, and Ted was at the time, he was the number three official at the Bush Department of Justice, and he knew exactly what was happening. He knew his wife was
on that phone. And Barbara was a firebrand, was she was passionate, she was a fighter, she was conservative, she was awesome. And Barbara said said to Ted, what do I do? How do we stop them? And that was the last conversation they had because moments later the plane crashed in the Pentagon.
You think about that, and then you think about the cover up of this decision, and I think we should talk about that because it's important. Yes, the White House is acting now like they had nothing to do with this. White House Press secretary today Jean Pierre was asked about this moment, and I want you to hear just how they're playing this again politics. It's a lie, and I want us to explain that lie. But first here is what she said when she was asked about it.
Katchack, thank you, Krein. I'm just hoping for a response to the nine to eleven plea deal that's spared the architects of death penalty.
The new York City Firefighters Union put out a statement.
It said, we are disgusted and disappointed that these three terrorists were given a plea deal and allowed to escape the ultimate justice, while each month three more heroes when the fdn.
WY are dying from World Trade Center illnesses.
Does the administration have a message.
For look, our hearts go out.
I mean, not much more than I can add to what you heard from the National Security Advisor and how I just answered the question to one of your colleagues, and I'll just reiterate, obviously, our hearts go out to the families loved who lost a loved one. We didn't have a role in this. This was not something that we were involved in, and so we are determined to make sure that they get justice. These families get justice.
I just don't have anything else to add to what the National Security Advisor just just dated from.
Here moments ago, Senator, I mean need I think you need to explain how big of a lie this is.
But actually actually play play the next clip, which which is the National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan, so she's referencing what he said.
Play that as well, switching gears for a moment.
I want to ask you about a key deal that we reached nine to eleven suspects by military the military boards down one rote. Republicans are condemning this as showing weakness and calling it a sweetheart deal because it avoids trial of the debt penalty.
I was wondering if the administration.
Has a response to that. As we said last night, the White House received word that the convening Authority had entered these pre trial agreements that had been negotiated by military prosecutors with KSM and some of the other nine to eleven defendants, and we had no role in that process. The President had no role, the Vice President had no role, I had no role, The White House had no role.
And we were informed yesterday, the same day that they went out publicly that this pre trial agreement had been accepted by the convening authority. What the President did upon learning of that was direct his team to consult as appropriate with officials and lawyers at the Department of Defense on this matter. Those consultations are ongoing, and I have nothing more to add at this time.
And well, of course he has nothing more to add. Yeah, of course he has nothing more to add. And by the way, Crane Jean Pierre, Our hearts go out to them. No they don't. You didn't give a damn because what Jake Sullivan doesn't admit there is why this Pleague deal was reached, and it was reached because Joe Biden and Kamala Harris insisted on closing Guantanamo Bay. Play what Crane John Pierre says where she acknowledges that and a follow up on the nine to eleven.
P media of Naus, the president still planned to close Guantango Bay Prison before you leave office?
And is there a realistic copway.
Because you got him the next six months.
That's still something that the president wants to do and get done. As far as a timeline, don't have anything for you here, but obviously this is something that he wanted to be done under his administration. Just don't have anything else to read out or preview at this time, but it is something that he's determined to get done.
Well, there it is centator. They're just admitted it. Yes, we had to get this done.
Now, we had nothing to do with it other than we said we're closing the prison he's in, so you got to do it.
Yeah, because Anne has plans to do it by January the twentieth, Right, So we're on a time frame here.
We got to get that there's a political priority here. And so you know when she said, oh, well you know our hearts go out to the victims' families, Well, no they don't. He's determined to get this done because this is a political priority, and and the people who who are at risk apparently that they're they're not the priority.
I got to ask you a legal question because there's a lot of people that are going to ask this in their heads, and I'm going to ask you. Donald Trump wins reelection, hypothetically he comes in, could he stop the closing of Gontanomo Bay Number one?
But before you even answer.
That, the second question is is it possible at his direction and his administration's direction to undo this plea deal with Khalid Shaik Muhammad? Or once it's done, is this done and it can not be undone?
So the two questions on the first one, if Guantanamo was not yet closed, yes, it would be possible to stop the closing of Guantana. And understand, we have a military base there that's not closing. But but at Guantanamo we have have built detention facilities where we have held UH terrorists from nine to eleven, and and and we held them there in in part because although it's under control of the US government, it's not in US territory in the mainland, and that was part of the reason
they were held there. If the Guantanamo detention facility had not already been closed, then yes, Trump could reverse that. But your second question, the answer, unfortunately is no. If the plea deal is entered into UH and it's it's agreed to, and and and and a court they plead guilty, and a court takes that that guilty plea, the fact that a new president comes in and and and changes his mind, absent extraordinary circumstances, there's no way to undo that.
Would there be a possibility of charging him with new or different crimes he maybe hasn't been charged within the past, or would those statute limitations be gone because there's gonna be people They're gonna say, we want there to be justice.
Yeah, Look, it would depend.
It depends on what is what's covered in this plea deal and what crimes he's pleading too. So if you had totally brand new crimes that are not covered in the plea deal that you could potentially charge him for that, but that would take the evidence to convict him of those brand new crimes, and I don't know if we have that evidence or not.
If you think that Joe Biden cared about the victims of nine to eleven, I think we've answered that question.
The answer is obviously no.
But does he care about your safety in your security from other potential terrorist attacks? Well, with the southern border wide open, I think we can answer that question pretty easily. But then we get this new shocking report that the illegal Jordanian migrants who tried to breach Quantico base were allowed to walk free after posting bail. This is a
national security risk at a high level. And they're like, oh, you're an illegal, Oh you came in, Oh you're from a part of the world where there's a lot of terraces.
Yeah, we're gonna let you walk free. How the hell does this happen?
Well, and this is something we covered on on the podcast when it happened that that two Jordanian illegal immigrants we were arrested on May third for trespassing onto the military installation, onto the Quantico Marine Corps base and they were handed over to ICE officers because they were illegal aliens. One of them was Hassan Yusuf Hamdan who's thirty two, and the other was Mohammed Kair Dabus, who's twenty eight,
and they were just released on bail. Hamdan's bail was set at fifteen thousand dollars, Dabus's bail was set at ten thousand dollars. And they were released and let go, and we'll see if we ever see them again. But understand Quantico, so it's home to the FBI Academy, it's home to the FBI Laboratory, it's home to a Defense Intelligence Agency facility, and it's home to several Marine Corps commands, including the unit that flies the Marine one presidential helicopter.
So we don't know.
Why they were trying to get onto the Quantico base, but there are a lot of things there that are serious national security priorities or law enforcement priorities. And to have illegal immigrants from the Middle East trying to get on there, as one federal law enforcement source told The New York Post, quote time intel failure, security failure. If it wasn't an act of terrorism, why aren't the government officials releasing the details of this what was the intent?
And of course Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are not answering that question that they don't believe apparently that they owe the American people an answer to that question.
And let's remind the American people of something we played here. These types of breaches are happening on a shocking regular basis. And this was the warning that happened on Fox News from a man wearing a uniform saying back in May, Yeah, this is happening a lot more than anyone realizes.
Miluntary base is getting penetrated by foreign nationals, is happening more and more. This is something we see probably two or three times a week where we're stopping these folks at the gate a week a week at least, and this is just Navy alone. We're seeing folks try to come in and usually the cover story is and I'm a student, you know, I'm here, I'm an enthusiast, I want to see the ships. That type of thing. We have to turn them around and typically we get NCIS
involved with those, and we get biometrics when possible. But yes, there's been an up.
Taken that did they have passports.
They have a lot of times they have passports, they have papers, yes, but they're in no way, shape or form authorized to be on our base. And it's really hard for us to tell the underlying motive for these type of cases.
Wow, that's that's stunning.
It is.
It's got to be a concern.
This is Russian, Chinese, it comes from all all these different nations. We're seeing an uptick in it.
In addition to that, there's been some reporting on this. Over the last six months. You're getting two or three drones flying over military bases in America per week.
That is no question happened.
How do you overcome that? Well, you know, we.
Are improving our capabilities to detect that, to defend against that, to make sure that our folks are trained to actually counter that. I do this under my authorities from a US and Northern Command as the component commander for that, and so I have great reporting on it, and generally, in general, we believe it's mostly just folks with drones that are the buying commercially, you know, from Amazon or
whatever the case may be. But it's hard to differentiate between that and a nation state trying to shore spnom.
I mean, they're acting like this is just normal in the United States of America now, like, oh, yeah, we got people coming into bases. We got these terrorists coming across the southern border on a regular basis on the Terrists watch list.
Yeah, and media, he said, he says, many of these are Chinese and Russians. Look, these are organized incursions, organized incursions targeting our military basis. And in the case of these two Jordanians, what happened. So they lied to the guards at Quantico. They claim that they worked for an Amazon subcent contractor and they were there to make a delivery. And the officers determined that they were full of crap,
that that was not true. And the men who were in a box truck ignored the instruction of the guards and tried to drive directly onto the base before they were stopped by anti vehicle barriers.
And so, look, this is.
Deeply concerning behavior and the fact that and both of them were here illegally. Hamdan entered the US illegally at San Diego. He came across the southern border in April.
But you know what happened. They released him.
Quote due to lack of detention space DUBUS was also in the US illegally because he overstated his student visa, and so both of them, for whatever reason, for whatever motive, they decided they were going to try to breach Quantico.
That they were issued citations for trespassing and told to appear in federal court in Alexandria, and a magistrate judge signed off on their release on the condition that they continue to appear at future court dates and they must also refrain from trespassing on any government property, including the Quantico facility. Like this is truly absurd, And as I said at the outset, this week is a very good week if you're a terrorist. This week is a very
good week. If you want to threaten the national security of this country. It's a terrible week if you actually care about keeping American safe.
Yeah, this is why this upcoming election is going to be so important in this country.
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