¶ Founders' Insight Into Music, Talent, Business
Welcome to Vegas Circle Podcast with your hosts , paki and Chris . We are people who are passionate about business , success and culture , and this is our platform to showcase people in our city who make it happen . On today's podcast , we're going to be delving into a founder's insight into the current state of music finding talent , balance and business and fatherhood .
Welcome back to the circle , man , our good guy man , founder of Money Train Management , G6 .
Good to see you again , brother .
It's always good to see y'all man , it's always good to see you guys . So we stayed in contact nonstop , the last probably . I think we had you on episode 85 .
So it's about two and a half Two years man . You be saying three man , like don't be saying three man . I looked it up . I'm glad you said that . Right , let them know . It wasn't too long , but time flies , man . February 2022 . Dang , that's a while ago . Yeah , two and a half . Time flies man what's keeping you focused here . I'm excited about life .
You know I love God , I love my son , I love my family . You know I'm excited about entrepreneurship . Always , like y'all know , that's my thing . You know , just putting other people in position and just enjoying life Like that's really what motivates me .
I love that . You know two years ago that seems like , like you said , it goes by quick , it goes by fast .
It really doesn't even feel like it . Y'all look the same I appreciate that , hopefully so . I mean , hey man , you know sometimes time goes by and you know people , you know they put on a little pounds you know stuff like that . So you guys still looking the same , you guys still looking good .
I appreciate that . Same to you .
At that time rhythm , you're really finding your groove . You know , what has that last like two years been like for you and your growth ? Oh , man , it's been , uh , it's , it's definitely been adventurous , you know , because basically I've just seen , I've seen a lot of changes . I've seen a lot of changes in the vegas , the whole like landscape of vegas .
A lot of people haven't , they're not here like you guys . Two years ago let's talk about that . You know , everybody hasn't been here , everybody hasn't been putting that work and being consistent . So I've noticed that , um , you know , music has changed as far as just every , every aspect . The film industry has changed .
So all of the industries that I'm in and I've been influenced by and influenced by and I'm influencing , they're changing , some for the better , some for the worst , but , um , you know , I'm happy with everything I've been working on as well . Yeah , I'm glad'm glad you brought up consistency . Yeah , man , let's talk about it . You know , let's talk about it .
Consistency , honestly , in everything . Yeah , you know , I think that's the number one , because if you're consistent , you never know what's going to happen . So I'm glad you brought that up , for sure .
Because consistency . I think the bottom line of that is discipline . You , you can be , you know you can be inspired , but without the discipline , because you're not always going to be motivated . A lot of people don't realize that . You know motivation . Everybody likes motivation , motivation , motivation , but everybody's not .
You're not going to be motivated all the time . So discipline is what really makes everything happen . You know that's how you keep everything cohesive and you got to have a you know , a real , a real spiritual base . Or you believe in something . You know . If you know , if you don't believe in god , believe in something .
You know , if you don't believe in God , believe in something , believe in yourself . But you know you got to be disciplined . That's what I live by .
I agree . I agree with you , True . So who's Money Train Management currently working with man and how are you finding current talent that you want to connect with ?
I'm working with the same people that I've been working with . Okay , first a legend .
great , you know , mazi , that's my family yeah , appreciate you connecting us that's my family , so that's not that's just like that's bigger than business .
You know , that's family , okay , um , right now I'm working with well , I actually worked on um , a film by janae janae uh , was janae gamble , okay , and it's called the amazing janae um , nicole . Okay , it's a dope record . It's a dope film . I actually did the theme for it , the theme song for it , it Okay . So that's coming soon . I'm working with her .
I've been working with a lot of people but more or less I've been kind of focusing on my situation . Like me , you know , as I told you , I've been working on a sitcom . I've been working on , just , you know , more commercials and you know , taking care of my son , making sure my son because he's been playing ball .
So I'm kind of working on everything and you know my son's family . So that's money , training , management , you know .
That's what's up .
I got to focus on him and get him ready for the next level , because he's in high school now .
So I've been putting more focus into that . I heard literally top prospects in the state of California , but also just in the country period Right now he's definitely doing his thing .
You know , he's from West Coast , he leads , he plays for that AAU team and he goes to North Torrance , okay , and he's playing varsity right now . He's actually in practice right now . Okay , did you hoop before ? Yeah , I hooped , I hooped yeah .
Did you play ?
Did I was nice but I try to teach my son and you know when I was younger it was about you just think it can happen , like it wasn't about all of it . You know we used to just hoop , so you think you're good , I want to go to the NBA and I'm going to go to the NBA . You don't realize really what it takes .
You know like the real work ethic Because I had raw talent . You know my son is a balance between raw talent and you know being coached and actually you know having training and being trained and you know I didn't have a father so he has me as well , so he has that insight . So I didn't have that .
So I was , I was raw talent , but you don't , really you don't realize what it takes and think about it . We needed , we need all types of things like um , we didn't have phones , you know , we didn't have cell phones where you can have a highlight tape . A highlight tape was extremely , extremely big .
So it's like now they can create their own thing , they can create their own tapes .
Everything is highlight tape . Now , man Jesus , everything .
And they have YouTube channels and things like that . So I didn't have all of that . But it's just a mindset . I just was raw talent , I just wanted to play basketball and I was good . But you just just think it's going to happen . You don't realize the work you have to put into it .
And you know we played outside all the time AAUs traveling teams , but now everybody's got a trainer , everybody's in AAUs . So in some parts of it it's kind of saturated . It kind of switches up the whole game plan because now everybody wants to do it . It's kind of like the music mean , everything is saturated , the podcast game that becomes saturated .
So you know I'm going to let you stay on course , but you know we can go in any direction .
I want to follow up with you on two things . I want to get into business , I want to get a little bit about podcasting , but how do you balance you ? Know the personal and doing the whole nine . How do you balance ? You know traveling and doing everything and keeping home , home and in the whole nine .
I just love to hear from your perspective , like I said , god and discipline , you know , because I mean that's the only way it can happen . You know everybody has their good days , everybody has their bad days , but you know you're moving closer to it . Yeah , and as you get there , you realize this is what I'm doing it for yeah , you know .
So that's that's what the balance comes from . But you know god and god and discipline , you know I'm going to use , I'm just going to say the same , the same thing let's keep it simple , you know , because if you make it too complex that's where you kind of get off course . I get it kind of go back to the saturation .
Right like you made a great point like everything I didn't really think about in the sports market , but yeah , it makes perfect sense because , you know , I didn't really realize that .
You know , a lot of these people have raw talent but to get it noticed and exactly , um , you know , to be able to move up into that next tier , you really do have to stand out . And and that's kind of what we're seeing as well with all these different , you know , entertainment venues , podcasts , music , movies , etc .
With that everybody has accessibility and it's oversaturated . Is that ? How important is the management of that person to really get them that exposure where they think ?
well , why do I need it ? For I could put it on YouTube Exactly . No , that's true . And the management of it is . The management keeps the discipline in the artist , in the basketball player , the football player , the athlete . Because people need to be told what to do , like that's just what it is , to stay on task , because they need to focus .
You know what I'm saying . I always tell my son right now , you know , I'm like you , living like a trust fund baby . You know what I'm saying . Like you living . At the end of the day , everything is taken care of . The same way it was for me . I didn't have a father , but I had a great mom , so I just got to enjoy being a kid .
So I'm like you know you enjoy being a kid . But if this is what you want , you really got to want it . You know what I'm saying . You have to really . You know , like I asked , I saw Gilbert Arenas talking about his son and he was asking his son do you love the game ? And he was like oh yeah , he , gilbert , turned .
He was like you don't love the game , because when you love the game , you realize what you have to sacrifice for it . And if you know , he was like you know video games and you know he's got a girlfriend and stuff like that . What are you sacrificing for ?
it so I thought about that , and I was like man that's , that's real , because it's almost like what do you actually sacrifice for stuff ? And we all sacrifice for things that we love , right ?
I agree .
It becomes a passion , or you ?
move things around , or you move things around , yep , for what's important to you .
It's okay at different levels . Gilbert's son he's really good . Is he nice ? Yeah , he's nice . Okay , we could talk about some other things . As far as the way that he put his son , he didn't want his son to go to Sierra Canyon for instance .
Oh okay , that's the Hollywood of basically , like I said , I'm going to keep it real with you guys .
So it's like if you talk about Bronny and Bryce and a lot of those kids that went to Sierra Canyon Gilbert , he made a great point . He just said I've never heard a college coach say how many championships have you won , it's all about how good you are . Like we college coach say how many championships have you won , it's all about how good you are .
Like we got to keep , like let's just keep everything 100 . They want to know . Are you putting up 30 or not ? So everybody's wondering why brawny necessarily didn't do what everybody expected . But let's just go to the stats . Let's not go to all of the hype , let's just go to the stats .
He averaged like 12 points at sierra canyon because there's a pecking order . They're trying to win championships . Those are stacked . So he doesn't realize what it's like to be the guy . So what you end up noticing is it's a lot of role players that are going into the NBA , hence this draft .
This would be the worst NBA draft that I've ever witnessed in my life , as far as talent-wise I mean , we didn't even know who the number one pick was going to be until it actually happened .
Has that ever happened At ?
all . Yeah , we knew the whole year it would be number one pick , right , that's never happened .
That's a good point man .
When people are wondering why Bronny's not stepping up to the plate or why Bryce isn't stepping up to the plate , it's because they're playing with a whole bunch of other great players . So Gilbert wanted his son to understand be in those situations . I want you to be able to take the game-winning shot . I want you to be able to average 30 .
I want you to be able to miss that shot and understand . This is how it feels to miss that shot . How are you going to bounce back ? So Bronny's never been in those situations . So when everybody's wondering why he's not , he's never been in those situations .
You have to be in those situations to understand that I don't know why he got into the Lakers . Well , yeah , we know that , but I'm just talking about , Just like all of us at this table . If I had the opportunity to put myself .
No , of course , no , no , no , no , you're hearing me .
I'm not saying he's not supposed to get there , get there however , you're supposed to get there ?
I follow what ? Not that he's a past first person . He's not a scorer
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. He was like that in high school he didn't get to really showcase that and in USC . Right , he wasn't really that nice at USC either right , right , okay , like I said , the heart situation , all those things are fine , I understand that . But if we're just talking about literally just being greatness and to me God is fair right , that's what they say is fair .
Right , that's what they say , god is fair , I mean , when have we seen greatness really create greatness ? You know kobe bryant's dad ? I mean , he wasn't kobe . You know dale curry's , not steph . So god is fair .
you get michael jordan's you know what I'm saying ?
michael jordan's son exactly , so you know like god is fair .
so it's like that's what I want for my son . Like you know , he he's not going to any . I could put him into any school , I could have him be aligned with a whole bunch of great players , but he's not going to fully understand what it's like to put a team on your back .
It's okay , you're in high school , go for 30 , go for 40 , do what you need to do so you can get there , because that's all these college kids care about . That's all the college coaches care about as well .
They don't really care about you winning a championship . It's about getting to the next level . How many numbers that's true .
It's all about the numbers in any field , right In the music industry in podcast industry , entertainment industry as a whole .
Let's jump back a little bit about artists right , like working with them . How do you feel about the state of music right , because it's going all over the place , in particular , vegas artists , right , like Mazzy I would consider him a Vegas artist , right , definitely .
International GT , mike Xavier , who you've had on Definitely and I saw all of those guys , great people , it's dope that you have a platform to introduce them to the world . I it's dope that you have a platform to introduce them to the world . I look at you guys , no matter what .
Just because it says Vegas , I see you guys in a global market , just because that's where we're trying to go . That's where we're trying to go . So anytime I can help , that's what I'm here for . But as far as Vegas artists , I'm going to say the same thing that I said on our last interview we still don't have anybody that's holding the torch .
That's like the flag for vegas . When you think of vegas , as far as music , we need to think of somebody , and the fact that we can't think of somebody , that's a problem . That's not gonna carry everything . If you think of new york , you can name an artist right off the top .
Whichever artist you want , la , you can name an artist , whether he's a new artist or not . You know the artist that you name outside of mozzie , because I wouldn't say mozzie's up and coming . He's been doing it for a while and he's he's getting major features . You know he just did the feature with jim jones , like we just talked about fire .
Yeah , a lot of a lot of vegas artists . They don't have that luxury . They might not have built those relationships as well . So , um , as far as vegas artists , I would just want them to actually man it's . It's tough man because you have to . Vegas is a . You have to like over , not overlook or overcome vegas .
But vegas is such you just think about gambling like people don't even realize what this city fully has to offer . Yeah , so that kind of takes away from that . It's almost like you know , as far as music , yeah , you know , that's like somebody that could be in milwaukee or that could be in kentucky .
Certain states and certain markets , you know , you think kentucky , I about , you know , like the college or something like that , if we're talking about sports , Milwaukee . Okay , we could talk about the Bucs , but outside of that , what are we really talking ?
about . You know , it's like Kentucky Derby or something .
Right , right , exactly , or I can't think of the .
What's the artist's name that did it with Drake and all that . I can't think of his name , the white artist .
Yeah , oh , jack Harlow . Jack Harlow , oh , he's from Kentucky .
Yeah , he's from Kentucky , but he's been talking about it and you hear a little subliminals and all of that Exactly .
But that's what they need . Perfect example , that's what Vegas needs . Somebody that's going to stand like literally represent Vegas . That's what you need .
Do you think it's more of like dance music ?
At least you said it , Chris , so I don't have to say it .
So it's like , you know , I could see a really big , you know , dj coming out of Vegas right or a really big . You know , pop star maybe eventually , but like I feel , like hip hop , it seems like it'd be hard to really push somebody from .
Vegas into that scene . Yeah , it's extremely hard because , when it comes to Vegas , vegas actually did a good job when they had Dre's do what Dre's has been doing as far as having people have residencies .
That changed the game .
Yeah , I agree , but we still need the up-and-coming artists . That's from Vegas and also . Vegas is such a hybrid . How many people are born in Vegas , grew up in Vegas and then ?
they become the flagship artist for Vegas .
That's not y'all working against you . It's a lot of things working against you . For example , like Neo is from Vegas , but he left .
He left , yeah , and no one knew that . And I think he comes back every so often . Probably has a home or something . Well , I mean , he had a residency too , but he wasn't repping it .
You know he went and got signed , you know , to Jay , and he was in New York . That's what a lot of you know LA and New York , those are entertainment capitals of the world . So , when it comes to actually , you know , I think the biggest thing that will help Vegas as well is the infrastructure .
So you know , for instance , you know , like congratulations on you guys actually moving , the last interview that we had was at a different place . Yep , this place is extremely high power , you know and you guys are working with high power people . Yep , this would be what the film industry would need .
I heard mark walberg was bringing something like that here as well yeah . So you know , then that brings a lot of um actors and things of that nature . But there's no we , there's no interscope here . There's no def jam here . There's no Interscope here . There's no Def Jam here . There's no Empire . Empire is out in Frisco , in the Bay .
So I think all of those really become what changes the whole atmosphere of how somebody can actually flourish in the city . Because you need the infrastructure that makes sense .
I mean , I think we are going to be that for the music industry , I mean the movie industry at least so really hopefully that ushers in somebody making that same decision from California that wants to move , like you said , like a music studio here that really impacts them ?
No , definitely . And it's funny because when I think about , like actors , you know , think about the actors that we were coming up with , I mean , there were superstars . I was just having a conversation with somebody . It seems like now , like you know , my son watches all the classics , you know .
So he knows , you know the Rush Hours , you know , he knows will smith and all that type of stuff . But when you think about the new superstars , I feel like for some reason , they're not pushing a new , new superstars in music and in in film . Yeah , the same way that we had everybody from it , doesn't ?
It doesn't matter color creed , you know there's a for every tom hanks , for every tom cruise . Okay , we got a denzel . You know , we got a will smith . You know we got a martin , all that type of stuff , and it's in everything Comedy , all of these things .
So , because now I guess these kids want to be streamers and TikTokers and things of that nature , but they don't push . So who's going to be the next superstar ? Like right now , if I asked you , my son's 16 . So , if I asked you , you know , and your kids are 10 and 8 .
Okay , so , so who would they be looking up to right now , because when I was 10 and 8 , I could look up to Michael Jordan , I could look up to Will Smith .
I'm glad you're bringing this up . We're talking about language .
Some other people don't even know their names .
It's so interesting you're saying that I really think about these things , because my son is the next generation . Who's he going to be influenced by ? You know , I mean , what a Michael B Jordan ? That's the best that my son would have , like comparable to a Denzel or a Will Smith . With all due respect , he's not on that level .
So not even to cut you off . I'm so happy you're bringing this up , because I didn't know we were going to talk about this .
But I'm here , man .
I'm here .
One thing that I'll say is like when we first started Vegas Circle right , we were doing a whole bunch of X-rated crap . You know what I ?
mean .
Oh yeah , not the early days . No , no , no , not all of it . We never put it out we never put it out ?
Yeah , because we had other folks we were working with , but we never put it out . Gotcha , gotcha . I'm glad you brought that up because of two things right , having the foundation of a Vegas circle we can show all the movers and shakers in Vegas per se . It does go international , right , definitely .
But there's a lot of successful people that people wouldn't even know , billionaires here , multimillionaires here , that are really connected . Right , but going back to what you were saying is I wanted my kids to be able to listen to that , right , so that we're not cutting out what they're listening to and be able to learn something from it .
Same for Chris's girls , right , right , able to learn something from it . Same for chris's girls , right , right . But also , the other thing is like mr beast , you've got um . You know , ronaldo , you can't get away from messy if you're into soccer , you can't get away from lebron curry , you can't get a little .
They look up to all of them , but you're 100 , everybody's youtubers , yeah , and they're saying the names and I don't even know who the hell some of these guys are like I have no clue the one they saying to them on their own way out , though .
So , like what you're mentioning is like who's next ? Like who's gonna take that next step ? Yeah , 100% .
So when it comes to film , did I stump you guys ?
Can you give me somebody like right now in our kids' era that they can look up to in film , I mean even for music , like he used to be the Justin Bieber's , you know , like , okay , cool , like he , the Justin who is the superstar . So I don't . I don't know , I can't I can't really put my my finger on why that is .
I don't know if that's , I mean , everything is strategic , right . It's almost like they build them up real quick and then take them back and then try to to pump somebody else up and do the same thing . It's also control , yeah .
See , and that's the thing , it's a lot of agendas that are holding the superstar back . Because you know we come up in an era where you know the guy , who's the guy all of the women want and all the guys want to be like Sure , so who is that ?
Now , because not necessarily just because you know they might look up to streamers the Kai Sanats or the Mr Beast and stuff like that I don't necessarily think they look up to them . It's an algorithm that gets pushed at them . So there's an algorithm that's pushing that the eye show speeds and all that type of stuff .
And then you have to deal with whatever backlash they're going through . Mr Beast , he was going through some backlash . You know what I'm saying . So when things like that happen , kids that happen .
Kids don't understand what's going on so it's good , a good point you brought up like mark warburg , right , he was brought in as a consultant for years . He was trying to get the studio here , bring hollywood 2.0 here , but then he had to partner with a sony and howard hughes to make that really happen , and now it's going to happen .
But we got to change that and us , us together .
We got to change that and that's what I was able to showcase people yeah yeah , no , that that's what I was trying to do , you know , like we were talking about last time . Yeah , is I wanted to bring everyone together . Like you know , I wanted to book you guys on different podcasts as well , because that's what I was doing .
Every time I would go on a platform , yep , I would say people want to hear your guy's story as well . Sure , you know . So , like , that's what I want , and you know we were seeing it happen .
You know we were , we were seeing it with shots out to Jake and things like that .
But you know , everybody diversified and might have gotten into different things for whatever reason it is . But I mean Vegas takes a hit when people don't do that , because now we can't , we don't have the cohesiveness of everybody working on the same accord . But these other states , you know LA , new york , chicago , miami , they're all , they're all doing that .
You know , same thing with , like , miami , you know so , the whole , all these content creators , they're all going to miami now because that's you know . So , wherever the big podcast is , I mean even in la , I'm always back and forth in la . Yeah , can you tell me what the biggest podcast is in la ? Well , it was joe rogan till he moved to austin .
Yeah , feeling me , yeah , so so , besides that , what are we talking about ?
so so , even so , even in a place like la .
What's the biggest podcast
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in new york ? Some people might say joe button , but I just saw . I just saw the top , the top 10 podcast list and there's not one . It's definitely not any any black joe buttons creators . Joe button's not on there , but not not for top 10 because because they come with bigger budgets , so I'm not sure . Remember he turned down the Spotify .
Oh , you're right , Everything's independent .
So when you got , Joe Rogan and you got Caller Daddy and you got all of these other ones .
You got some big , big numbers on there and I believe she just diversified and got some $125 million deal .
So it Joe Button and all of them are not on that because you know they might be independent and you know how we can get into the independent conversation as well . But yeah , I think all of that affects everybody and as far as Vegas , to me Vegas takes a hit .
You don't have those internal networks right where you can plug and play , where you know Pocky goes and has a conversation because he's a great networker . He's in a room with somebody who's worth $100 million , like he's in a room with somebody who's worth $100 million , like I've got you Let me hook you up .
But we don't have those environments here we can go and have those conversations .
And a lot of people don't . You know ? I know a lot of investors and you know it's a blessing when they actually want to invest in certain things . But you know it's all about market share , it's all about business , you know , and you know like that's , but that's the number one .
I mean they say I think I can't remember the numbers I actually have written down on my phone , but I don't want to bore you guys . But I know I want to say it's like 80 of the podcast , they don't even make it past , like episode three . Yeah , yeah , yeah I heard that and I want to say like past , like 20 is like right , it's like none of them .
It's a small percentage . Yeah , they look at everything . They might hear these big numbers , that Joe Rogan's getting $100 million and things like that . But people don't understand Joe Rogan . He's been just in entertainment for years .
He had a huge following . He's a comedian .
I mean UFC has got a lot of stuff . He's been doing a whole bunch of things .
So people think it it's going to happen overnight . But you know , I don't know about the whole financial situation , but you guys still get credit for actually the upkeep of this , yeah , and to see you guys upgrade , so now you're in a better situation . Yeah , everything costs , everything that I'm looking at .
All this stuff costs , you know , even if you have great relationships . So you know , like , you guys get credit for that and to me that's what's really missing actually putting the work and just being consistent on that . I agree , we need that . Like . Without platforms like this , where do we go ? You know where do artists go , where do creators go ?
And you know business . You guys definitely like , specify in , like business and dealing with a lot of entrepreneurs , but a lot of those entrepreneurs . It's dope to see them actually saying , well , forget the rappers and forget this . Now we want to tell our story and now we want people to see that .
But once again , then , all of the people in film take a hit and the artists take a hit and they don't really see what it takes to get to that next level .
You know what I'm seeing more than anything like podcasts and everything . Everybody's a brand .
Yeah .
We're talking about LeBron and Bronny and everybody's their own brand and people . They're so involved in your life , like when we used to see Will Smith and all . You never saw Will Smith 20 years ago or 25 years ago . Now you can see him every day on Instagram and stuff .
That's true .
That's true . So the I don't want to say it's secret , but it was like secret life for a lot of these people . But now you're starting to see people want to build their own brand and that leads to more money influencer gigs , all of that stuff .
So what are you starting to see now with other revenue streams right , because people traditionally would do music , concerts , things like that , influencer gigs , things like that what else are you seeing that's out on the market ? Or any new stuff that's ?
out on the market that people can well , I mean branding . Yeah , I mean , that's man . That's a multi-layered conversation sure it's the branding . I mean , when I first came out here I got with uh ml billion .
That's who I was with and I helped him yes okay , his branding okay , you know , I was executive of lifestyle branding for him and that's what it's about . And we didn't even think I mean a lot of these words . We didn't even mention 20 years ago , people didn't say branding .
All the time people didn't say even entrepreneur you know , my mom she wasn't thinking about an entrepreneur sure everybody was traditional . So when you think about branding at this point , um , a lot of times it's hard for the artist to realize they are the brand , and then they have to create another brand or another sub brand . Yep , because they are the brand .
So , um , what I'm noticing right now is um brand . I mean , obviously , branding is everything , but it's like , what do you want to represent ? You know , because , like you guys are staying positive . Like you said , you could have went left .
We did , we just didn't put it out .
Yeah , yeah , but you're right , luckily the wherewithal , like you said , to keep on our brand and who we wanted to be true to ourselves , right you ?
know . So us , like we went left and had two other partners . That didn't work right , but me and him , both were like all right , man , we got to hold each other accountable . That's not us . You know what I'm saying . Like we know who we are . Like we got to represent who we are .
You know what I mean when you do things like this . It's all about influence . I agree .
It's all about influence .
So we all want to get money , you know . You know , hopefully everything gets money and gets to another level , but the influence is what everybody you know , cause that's what it's about , right now . Everybody wants to have some sort of influence . Because influence , you know , it gives you some sort of power , it gives you the .
You know , if I tell somebody , you know , go to Vegas circle , and they look and they see what you guys got popping they coming through . Yeah , they know , they know Number one , because you know my brand is representing like , okay , I'm speaking on it and then now this is your brand , you guys have been true to it , you haven't switched up .
As long as you're consistent and you don't switch up , the branding of everything is going to be official . But as far as what I've learned and what I've seen , as far as like different streams of branding , I mean , streaming is obviously a big thing but it's just so multilayered it's kind of hard to see where streaming and all those things are going to go .
Streaming could be like NFTs , you never know . That's a good point . I'm actually shocked it hasn't already happened to be fair , but it's just because , from what I see , it's just the younger audience . Everybody's tapping into the younger audience , which was why I had the question of why we haven't gotten a younger superstar .
That's a great question . I don't think anybody's ever asked me that .
Because everybody's tapping into you know they're tapping into the younger audience .
Yeah , you know , you know , I was just listening , speaking of not to stay on Bron , but Maverick Carter , right , he's got a great platform . Oh , yeah , yeah , and he was interviewing Tyler the creator . He had a great . You saw the interview .
I loved what he was saying yeah , he was basically saying , like you know , everybody wants to grab a bag , nobody wants to put the work in and they don't love the music , right , and everybody sounds the same , right , how are you like kind of piggyback on what Chris was talking about earlier ?
Asking about earlier is like how do you help manage these artists to be themselves and not just try to get the bag and everybody sounds exactly the damn same .
You know what I mean . You want to . You want to deal with somebody that's coming through with something original , and originality is a . It's a lost art form you know , basically what he was saying . You know everybody sounds like a carbon copy . You know , and it's you know , like even when we're talking about platforms .
You know , I don't what you're going to get from this platform . You're not going to get from the next platform , because some of those people , some of those people , no problem .
Some of those people are actually indulging in some of the frivolous stuff that you guys might not have let go , we stay . We stay true to it , cause I think people feel the energy of people being fake and trying to do too much yeah .
But the thing is is people are , the minute people start monetizing off of all these things , they're just going to stick with it Because you know , I agree , you know the dollar is what everybody's working towards . But people that I work with , you know , like you know , even Mozzie , for instance , you know that's like , that's my people , that's my family .
He's always been original , he's always been himself . He didn't , you know , he didn are doing something , trying to be like something . You guys met him . He's just true to who he is Super down to earth . He's true to who he is and he's in a niche market , the sports betting market . I don't know anybody that's our color that's doing that .
All of the famous sports bettors that I know they're not black .
I just thought of him . Yeah , you're right . You know what I'm saying . You want to be honest with me ? Shout out to Mike . He's the only one that I know .
Honestly .
Just that in itself . Oh , I'm sorry Mike P , my bad , I got to give Mike P some love because he's doing it on a different level , but he's doing consulting . He's in consulting .
That's another brand of his space . I'm just saying just to let you know I'm familiar .
I got to give Mike P a shout out because he's doing it heavy . Shout out to him . Shout out to him .
But you know , like I said , it's just the level of somebody that's been doing it as long as mine's been doing it . I've never seen it . I've never seen . Okay , you're original , you're who you are and a lot of people they don't stay true the persona and who the person actually is . Sometimes it might be kind of far off .
So now we've got to deal with the duality or deal with the dichotomy of these two people . So how do we merge this into a brand or just going to be two separate brands ? It's kind of hard to do that .
It's just kind of hard . Everybody living in a glass house . Now , right , you can't fake it too hard .
It's hard to manage that , right . It doesn't last long either . So you do it . You make it a little bit for six months , right .
So I'm not going to try to manage that . As far as you know , I'm here to make your job easier . I'm not to take on and say , cause , like I told you a while ago , I want to , I want to build up artists , I want it . I want it to be a buildup , I don't want it to just be .
You know we working for a little bit of time , or or or you're already at a certain level and then you know I do one or two things and more , because I want this to , I want to build your relationship .
And a lot of people do that .
That happens a lot in my industry .
Yeah , how do you feel like about , like , when people are putting out specific music ? Right , you've been songwriting , producing , engineering , doing the whole nine , but and they song sucks . Do you tell them like ?
yo , this is horrible . Do not put that out All the time .
How do they it ? Yeah , uh , because people are real good , they get a little timid about their . It depends , it depends , um . But you know , I always want to be true to okay , because I'm not being , you know , like I told you , I see myself as like the black art gold .
If , if you suck , if you so you gotta always gonna tell vince , you know , chris you're gonna tell he's gonna tell vince he ain't doing his thing .
You have to , yeah , so you got to tell them .
You want to be honest with them so you can try to get the best product
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out of it . Now , the flip side of that is a lot of stuff that's not that good is selling and doing extremely well . So then it's like , ok , cool , are we just doing this for a bag ? Is this for a bag ? Is this for a play ? You know what are we doing , because if this is for I mean , is this a jingle ? Are we doing this for a commercial ?
Is this product placement ? You know so , dealing with , okay , if you just do something that is kind of not , it's not as good . But I know how we're going to use this . You know me saying , me saying that it's trash . That might not even matter .
You know I'm still gonna say it , but you know I mean like I'm still gonna let you know what it is , but it's , it's always . Let's always understand what we're doing , what the goal is and where we're going .
That makes sense . A lot of times it could be on purpose right A lot of times it could be , like you know , funny or joke , or spoof .
Exactly , and those things work . You know , I understand all of that . I understand all of those things work . So it's just all about what are we trying to gain from this ? You know ?
Yeah , no-transcript that man like right , right now , um , I just , I mean , I would really just say my mom , you know , family , you know , hey , my son can give me insight as well , you know you know he's at that age where I pour him to him and he can pour into me . You know , I have , I have mentors , you know , like ml billion and things like that .
So you know , but I don't need to look to too many different people so I can stay focused and have tunnel vision on what I need to do . That's what's up man and I always I always mozzie got the best quote because he was like don't listen to anybody as far as as long as you're doing what you're doing . So he's like don't listen to anybody .
I was thinking about it the other day when he said that yeah , oh man , that stuck with me for a second and he always says that You're like .
you know that's not the first time he said that , because you know , don't listen to , because a lot of times people now , if you're going to people and they're giving you great advice , no problem . I mean I can get insight from you guys . Sure , I can get like sometimes they can deter you from what's going on .
So it's like when you're focused and you're locked in , you know I believe in God . So you know I'm a pray , I'm a listen to God . What he's given me you know I'm going to . If my mom gave me a little insight , I might ask her a question and stuff like that . But besides that , you want to be confident in what you're doing .
So the more confident that you are in your doing what you're .
I love that . I love that for sure . For business fights it's just gems . I know we asked you this before , but I want to stay in this lane of like what people need to do as far as consistency and working hard and who is the next person , like you were saying , who's the next person out ?
there .
Hopefully , Maybe they're listening right now Hopefully our kids , man . Look , that's the reason why there ain't no superstars . All of our kids , they're they little geniuses . Man , I appreciate it . Man , I wish I could play the piano at that age . I was like man .
It's crazy because we just sidetracked from what's second grade , but my kids love classical music , which is wild to me .
I got into classical music when I was younger but I didn't realize what was going on . My mom had me on that because she always played classical music . She used to play it very , very low and she told me that it would always kind of play in your skin .
It would always be in your subconscious . So sometimes .
I'll walk in to her room and I'm like why do I hear it so and she's like oh , it's this playing . And she even told me not too long ago that she used to . While I was in her belly , she said something like that I didn't even know that I had to grow up .
We did the exact same thing , both of us . Yeah , we did the exact same thing when both our kids love it now ?
yeah , they do just planting seeds and uh , yeah I mean it's great , I remember I learned that a long time ago yeah , what would you say ?
I mean , what would you say just to leave somebody out on business wise , because a lot of people listen as far as business advice . Um , you know what's one nugget you would share with them of ? Maybe they want to be an artist , maybe they want to put their music out out right now . Maybe they're waiting for Hollywood 2.0 to move to Summerlin right .
What would you say to them ?
Put it out , be confident in what you're doing . You know , I tell everybody , man , I'm past confidence and I'm past conceited , I'm convinced .
Convinced . I love that so be convinced in what you're doing .
You know , really understand , like , yeah , you don't keep shooting , keep shooting clips , keep shooting clips . I mean , what's the definition of success ? Just failing 100 times right ? So I mean you just got to keep going Some things are going to hit , some things are not and just put points up on the board .
You got to put numbers on the board , no matter what , because that's the only way and all of my answers , they're going to come right back to consistency and discipline .
I'm glad you said it , Steph Curry , I just got to shout him out man have you seen the videos of just him
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his workout . Yeah , yeah . He's on a different level as far as it's funny .
You said that , like we was talking about Gilbert earlier , perrinas , he was saying that he had to tell his son . He said hey , man , you want to be like Steph . He was like right now , it's not possible , steph . He was like right now , it's not possible .
He said let's see , a lot of times the problem is giving people like you got to be real with what's going on . He's like do you realize how many shots that Steph's been shooting to shoot like that ? This is every day , though , and every day .
For how long ? Yeah , you know what I'm saying . Yeah , like four .
So he was like yeah , that , don't worry about that , Because you're not going to get to that . You know what I'm saying ?
Yeah , he's special .
It's a different level of discipline .
It's a different level of shots . I remember when he did an interview with Renis and them . He said that in his career . He said Steph said he believes it's close to a million . He said something like 900,000 and whatever number he said , but it was close to a million . So can you imagine People say a million but you know how long it would take .
We can't even count to a million , can't even comprehend what he's been doing Exactly .
So just that right there . That's crazy .
Yeah , he's somebody , even though he's younger than me . I look up to him just because of how he's grounded and how he's raised his wife . His wife is doing a bunch of different things and then he just works his behind off . So , yeah , that's great man . Um , we always ask about restaurants , man , I seen you .
I meant that we'll talk offline where you at recently , but I want to know the steakhouse you're at . But what's your favorite restaurant in vegas now ?
um , it's funny , because did the mirage close ?
it did . I used to . I used to like heritage man heritage okay .
Heritage steak place okay , yeah , yeah , I think that's the same as crap that's yeah , okay , okay , that's where I got engaged at , oh wow no , not at , not at a heritage , but at uh craft state yeah yeah yeah same same chef , I like , uh , I like , I like heritage man .
I actually had one of my clients that came out that I took him out . He did a VIP thing for his birthday . Okay , good stuff I like Heritage and I always know y'all be asking something . I was like let me try to think of something .
Give us a gym man . We done been so many .
I've been kind of everywhere but yeah , I like Heritage it was a nice nuanced place .
Yeah , nice ambiance too . I like all that type of stuff .
Yeah , Heritage was dope .
Okay , it's done now . That's a wrap .
Maybe , they're making it back at Hard Rock .
Probably , probably right , yeah . But that chef is no joke , so he'll probably start with pizza .
Do you even have a favorite ? You eat everywhere . Pocket does Right .
You can't have a favorite at this point .
No , I got too many man right from kylie bass to we just said to toro nakamura , I love that right . Uh , I couldn't believe that mazi brought up sushi fever that right , right , right .
Yeah . Yeah , I got too many of them on there , man , too many . I don't know when y'all trying to eat all these places . Yeah , he's been every place in vietnam , man .
No , you know I'm gonna say this right is in . Um , we laugh about this all the time and I shout out to tk because TK Kirkwood was making fun of us saying how the hell are y'all not fat Right ?
right , that's what I was saying . You're looking good , in good shape , man . I'm trying my best man .
But you know what it is ? Because we starve ourselves technically during the week for the most part .
And then we lose our mind on the weekends .
Eat clean , For sure , For sure . That's how . That's how you want to do it man , Good stuff , man .
What else , man ? What else should you ? Uh , maybe we forgot to ask you that you want to leave us out on that .
Um , like I said , I worked on this um this up and coming film . I did the theme song . Can you say what it is the theme song for that I just did a commercial for 2K25 with Jason Tatum SGA and Austin Reeves man . Shout out to Austin Reeves man . He got to work on his acting man . It was funny to see . It's funny to see them in their .
Doc Rivers is no , no , no , austin .
Lakers , lakers , okay , okay . I'm tripping AR-15 . I'm tripping .
I'm thinking Austin Rivers , my man he commentated on podcasts and stuff .
He's not in the league , no more .
He's a funny guy nah , it's funny to see Austin Reeves man because it was funny to watch the director and how many it took him . You know , jason Tatum , you , you know in SGA they did , they knocked their stuff out and because you know they were out in Vegas doing it , they're the USA stuff . Okay , for the actual Olympics , okay , okay .
So , um , it was cool , you know , met Tatum and stuff like that . He's , he was cool people , solid guy . And um , just Reeves man , he was taking so long , it was so many takes , just just for his , uh , just for his scene . So I'm curious to see actually when , you know , when it comes out with 2k25 . I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with .
He's a big gamer okay , cool , he's a big guy . I don't play no games , but he played all my son , my son was going crazy .
Dad , dad , you was really with Tatum , man you really was .
That was kind of that was a good feeling . Huh , when you actually get the
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environment .
I remember when I , when I first did my show , that I first did , um , I believe it was in 2019 Vegas Social okay , um , it was on amazon prime and my son , when he first saw me on tv , he was going crazy . I mean , he'd seen me on stuff when he was younger but he couldn't remember it . He was like dad , you really are , you really were doing it .
Man , I was like , yes , that's proud , not just saying it . So , yeah , um , 2k25 , that commercial should be coming out . Uh , any , any day . I mean I was , I've been paid .
The check is cleared so that stuff , yeah it's coming out soon .
So , yeah , working on that and you know , like I said you know , always grinding , always putting in the work . You know , shout out to my guy Mozzy , he's got the new record with Jim Jones right now .
Yeah , fire Taking all bets .
So yeah , that's really that's going to be shooting in Miami .
Okay , awesome , man . Well , keep tabs on G6, . Man , I appreciate you always coming back on . Always come with the right energy . You always come with the right energy . Man that's what .
I'm here to do man . I'm glad for you guys having me and stuff like that Appreciate it , man .
And it's like , hey , man , let's not . Man , we keep trying to stay in this space . Let me show right back up when it's the right time . You're trying to stay in the space , man , I love doing this man .
So we appreciate hanging out with you , man . What's your social handles ? People can check you out at CapitalG6 on Instagram , capitalg6 . Appreciate it . Check us out at TheVegasC Always , always , man , good stuff , man . Yeah , that was great , man , that was great . We stayed on the board .