¶ Meeting Young Tosh, Teddy Riley's Son
Welcome to Vegas Circle Podcast with your hosts , paki and Chris . We are people who are passionate about business , success and culture , and this is our platform to showcase the people in our city who make it happen . On today's podcast , we've got a special guest man . Definitely no strangers to the music game .
Been touring with Trey Songz Just dropped a new single called Saint . The straight fire that we were just talking about we're going to get into today . He's carving his own lane in the music industry , being the legacy of his father , legendary Teddy Riley . We're going to bring him to the circle and I didn't realize . Your real name is Teddy Riley Jr .
Teddy Riley Jr .
Man Better known as Young Tosh . Yes sir , yes sir , welcome welcome welcome , man .
Man , it's a pleasure having me . Man , it's a pleasure it's a been in the grind man . So yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , my pops taught me young , you know , you gotta , you gotta get it , you know what I'm saying get it on your own .
Yeah , you know it was a blessing for me because being around like in the industry and just being the son of somebody who's done a lot in the game , you know I'm saying you would think it's like handed out or you know , I'm saying like nah , he told us , look do your own thing . Work for it . You know . You know what I mean .
You're going to love it more . You're going to appreciate what you have more if you work for it by yourself . You know what I'm saying . I feel like anything I was ever given . I just broke it , or ?
you know what ?
I'm saying didn't care about it , like it's like all right , whatever , you know what I'm saying .
So it's like you know most people like when you're growing up with somebody , especially the music , right , business is one thing , right , you know you learn business lessons , you do it , but music it's also teaching those same lessons , absolutely right . I think you learn it in kind of a different way , at least from what I would assume .
Right , because yeah , most people do music as like a passion project , but when you're growing up , you see more in the business life . Yeah , you're seeing the success part of it yeah you learn different things .
I think that most people wouldn't learn , like what kind of like experiences that you know really get instilled in you , that you kind of learn to look at it from a different perspective ?
yeah , I mean like just being in the studio with my pops , seeing them , like you know , work on like just the little things , like the beat and everything you know I'm saying , and then seeing people come in and break down the business and stuff like that . Like that's what intrigued me the most , like you know . I'm saying like dang , it's a process .
I won't be a fly on the wall . You know what I mean .
Oh my God , I can't even imagine it's actually incredible to see like it's such a blessing . That's why I like I think it came to me like really easy . Like you know what I'm saying . They make mistakes , so I know he's made mistakes , you know . So for me it's like just taking those mistakes that he's made and try and do it my way .
You know what I mean and fix it . That's right , yeah , in your own lane man , and I can respect that . He probably respects that too .
¶ Growing Up in Atlanta's Music Scene
Man man , your blood vessel , literally literally running through .
But how did you get into creating your own sound and what got you into saying , okay , this is what I want to do ?
So I grew up in Atlanta . I grew up in Atlanta , georgia , yeah . So my mom I lived with my mom majority of my life .
So my dad I'd see him weekends and then Christmas , anytime he majority of my life , so my dad , my dad , I'll see him , you know , weekends and then Christmas and you know , anytime he really wanted to see me , like you know I'm saying , or if he had time , you know , we'll see each other . Yeah , so it was just uh being in that realm .
You know , atlanta is just so huge in the music industry and it's just a strong , you know , like you know culture . So , uh , just being out there , I was just like , you know , let me try it , let me see what's going on .
So I had a couple friends , a couple family friends , shout out ad and you know I'm saying the slaughter gang team and uh , you know 21 and hazel and everybody out there , they , you know , they , they kind of just helped me shape a sound and you know , mike will and all of them like just being around , that type of culture , yeah , you know , just had me in
the studio making beats . I started making beats at first like I wasn't even rapping for them , or yeah , yeah for them , yeah so I did . I did records for g herbo rob , 49 , young in may um k camp .
You're saying that's so easy . Yeah , you got a resume . Yeah , I got a little .
I got a little got a little catalog but um , yeah , just started making records out for them and because I just really love , you know , rap , music , trap music , hip hop , you know what I'm saying . My dad had a little foot in that too . So you know , just being around that sound was just interesting to me .
So , you know , I was out there , started making beats , and then one of my cousins was just like you know , you should just start rapping on them . You know , writing for other artists or doing your own thing , like just see what happens I mean . The worst that happened is say you know this sucks .
You know what I mean can't be scared right so I started rapping and , uh , you know , with everything takes repetition . So you know , just being in the studio all the time just getting good , getting good , getting good , um , and then eventually somebody was like you know that's you actually got a .
You actually got a talent .
Yeah , all right , you got something there . What's up ? So uh yeah , that was , uh , that's how it kind of started out . And then , um , I moved out here to Vegas , uh , after high school and I just stayed in the studio , like that . That's all I knew out here , cause I mean , of course , being being in Vegas , you gotta be 21 .
I was graduating , I was 18 19 you know I'm saying so . It was like let me let me just work where it's gonna go , yeah , let me just work . So it was constantly sending out beats , and you know I'm saying talking to people networking , going out here and there to different you know functions , meeting certain people , and yeah , it , just it .
It took off from there and then I picked up rapping again , cause I stopped once I left Atlanta , picked up rapping and yeah , now I'm . Now I'm here .
That's what's up .
man Sounds like an evolution right , Like it's kind of go through those processes and try to . You know , beats are always obviously important , but I think beats are one thing , cause you get a feel for it a little bit , but when you're trying to rate something that's actually coming from you , it seems like a hard thing to develop and navigate Absolutely .
It was so hard to dictate whether it was like , especially being around family , your family's always going to be like , yeah , that's dope . Some of them my family would be like that's horrible .
That shit sucks , he's good .
Yeah , I mean around my family . You know everybody's just so loving and just you know , caring that it's just like there'll always be that like oh , like this is dope , yeah , of course , Even if it sucks Like it's just like .
¶ From Producer to Vegas DJ
Oh , it's awesome , Just keep doing your thing , just keep rolling .
Yeah . So it took me going out and getting into Vegas party scene Interesting and for me to do that , I started DJing , Got it , so that's where that came in .
Met a couple cool people Cole , the Bloomers Team why Not Gino , all of them over at Dre's and started picking up DJing and then got my first residency at Big Jerk , which is a cool little local spot out here , if y'all know about it Big Jerk . That's a good food if you know about it .
You know about it so at night time it turns into a whole different atmosphere there's two locations , right ?
yeah , I'm not sure if one of Some of them are still going , but there used to be one in Southern Highlands . There's one on Sahara .
The one on Sahara is the one that's the club , the lounge . So they gave me my first residency , they gave me my first break and you know I was making a little money $300 , $400 here , you know , just DJing . But I was just so in love with it so I didn't care Like people would look at me and be like the key word love , I love it .
Yep , that's the separation , you know . I'm saying like so . For me it was just doing that , you know , constantly . And then I got to meet so many people , network with so many people , that you just you know everybody goes out oh yeah , you know , especially in vegas , yeah , like if you're , you're gonna run into somebody 1000 . So that was it for me .
It was just you know doing that . And then , um yeah , djing went well .
I did a whole , I've done everywhere at Zouk day , like after hours what's the best , one you two , or what's the one you like , the best for yourself , I love .
Big Jerk .
I'm not gonna lie , I love Big .
Jerk , everybody be like what days ?
is it pop ?
there usually . So I do Sundays . Sunday's is like Sunday service , that's like a huge thing out there . If you're ever in town , please go .
And get some good food and listen to some music . Yeah , get good food , listen to music .
Yeah , whatever , it's just such a vibe . It's like it's a community in there . I love that spot Splash . Splash is a dope spot . We used to have this spot called Inferno . Do you guys remember that In ? You guys remember that ? I don't know . I know Splash , was that the ?
club .
Yeah , it was the club . Oh yeah , yeah I remember that ?
Where's my fernoat ? Is that downtown ? That's off of Flamingo . Yeah , oh , shoot , okay , I'm way off . Right behind the palms , right behind the palms , I'm way off .
I don't even know where that is . Three years , it was huge . Yeah , I remember that and um they gave me a residency and that's where like my brand really started to pop because I started doing druski and big boogie would come and t grizzly yg like those cats would come in there , so it would you know .
I'm saying it makes sense for me now , yep , so that's where , like , the brand really started taking off and then , you know , started rapping and started rapping . So it was like a little intervene , like I just put everything down , started DJing and then started rapping again . I was like , let me control the sound a little bit .
Yeah , you know when you have . I don't know if you were going to ask this , but do you feel like the DJ scene is kind of oversaturated and your mom is technically like a DJ ? Now , right , yeah , I mean Especially in Vegas , right In Vegas , for sure . And now you got them in brunches and clubs . But you know what ?
For me . I figured out that it's a lane for everybody . Like I have friends who do EDM on Fremont , they do hip hop on Fremont , they do , and they make good money and like they don't have to be on the strip . I know people who just do private parties , who just do corporate , because there's corporate people out here and corporate where the money is too .
That's where the money is . Any corporate event I've ever done the pay is amazing , where the money is so corporate for sure . Like I know people in that lane Like it's just so many lanes you could be in so and so for me it never felt like it was just , oh , it's just so many people .
And then the people I do know , like it's literally a community , like we all know . I know Franny and DJ Great to JT and DJ so Hype , and you know those cats , like I've been around them , dj Direct and you know those type of cats . Like it feels like a community . Everybody knows each other . It's always love , it's a brotherhood .
You know what I mean . It's really a brotherhood . You know what I'm saying Everybody looks out .
So I never got that vibe of just feeling like I'm in a jungle where everybody's just by themselves . So it's definitely a blessing .
It's cool to be out here and just be in that type of brotherhood , you know , two weeks after high school . So you got to be honest with me because Atlanta we've both been to Atlanta many times Atlanta is food , culture , the whole nine . But then you come to a spot like Vegas . Yeah , why do you feel like a Vegas artist ?
Don't pop compared to other markets like Vegas or New York or Chicago or LA or something like that I think you know my opinion on that is definitely like In Atlanta .
it feels like everybody's related
¶ Building a Brand Through DJing
in a sense . So it's like you could be my cousin . You know what I'm saying and your music's dope . But my other cousin who lives in my neighborhood is Gucci Mane . Oh my God , like this is my , like we roll together . Like you know what I'm saying . We don't make music Like this is just my homie . So let me get you in the studio with him .
That's ridiculous .
That type of stuff doesn't happen in Vegas .
That's ridiculous yeah , you know what I mean . You're the first person to ever bring that up . That's a great point .
That's what I see in Atlanta . Everybody does know everybody .
And they want to help you too .
Yeah , and they want to help you .
One If you've ever been to Atlanta .
It's a black culture . You know what I'm saying . So we love each other .
I mean , you know , of course you have your day-to-day . We call it Wakanda . Yeah , you know what I mean .
You know as is . Yeah , of course , just like any city , any city , but everybody pretty much loves each other . You know what I'm saying , like it's , you know , I'm saying clothes and fashion and like fashion's huge out there .
It is , yeah , so just it's black hollywood in a great way .
Yeah , in a great way , like everybody's just succeeding in that , in that , in that environment . So it's like that's one thing . I think vegas is missing and one thing I would love to bring here .
You know what I mean like you think it's not here , because it's like so siloed in a way , because when you bring in entertainment here , right , they're performing , and then they go back to wherever they came from , right , yeah , I think there needs to be something here that's going to keep people here .
Yeah , and I think that's coming , because to me , I think Vegas is a young city . It's super-duper young . You know what I mean , with everything that's just coming . We just got the Raiders Stadium .
We just got a football team , we're about to get the A's . We're about to get the A's .
We're probably going to get an NBA team .
You know what I mean . That's not what I hope .
Yeah , like those type of things would keep people here . You know what I'm saying . We're just missing a few things . You know what I mean , and Like they're getting like— Two point O's coming , yeah , like they're getting that . I see Mark Wahlberg is building something out here .
You know what I'm saying . Warner Brothers , yeah , yeah , like , yeah , I've seen that , so like it's just so much— that's happening Downtown Summerlin would be great yeah . Or not Downtown Summerlin In Summerlin , in Summerlin .
Right , right right have that scene ? Yeah , so basically they got to be entrenched in this community so that way you could be connected and you could put other people on Right , so that way you're like in the area . Yeah , it just has to be something .
You know it's not really you know , we're young you know , just trying to figure it out so you know , it's interesting that you brought up like the Gucci , like from different neighborhoods , so it's like it's for a long time , for a long time yeah , you know I'm saying like people been living out like the 80s . You know what I'm saying .
It's like it's , it's always been like that , you know so so they grew up there and stayed there and stayed there , you had to move here and you don't know nobody like right .
You know people back in an international hub I've been here from .
I'm originally from Chicago , but Chris is from Detroit . But I felt like Vegas was like an international hub .
But now we're starting to get our character yeah Right , yeah , yeah , yeah , and it's funny .
I remember I had this conversation with one of my guys at a cut above at the barbershop and they always were saying , like everybody else that moves out here is the ones messing up Vegas . But Vegas really does have a culture . It does .
It has a foundation it does , it does I mean , like I hear stuff .
Like you know , the mob used to be out here a long time ago . So , like you know , italians have it a little bit out here , 100% . You know , I see a lot of different people . Like you know , I see a lot of Polynes . It's getting against culture . It's getting against you know what I'm saying . It's just it takes time , you know .
So eventually I feel like a big star is going to break through . You know , might be me , you never know .
You never know Rolling with that Saint man , that Saint is fire man .
Look , I'm trying to keep it together man , I'm trying to keep it together . Talk about , like , are you actually signed or are you independent thing going on with vidya over at , uh , gamma gamma records ? So that's okay . Did you say nvidia ? It's called vidya , okay , yeah , yeah , I'm like damn , yeah , it's called . Yeah , it's called vidya .
Um , it's like this like distribution platform that they have uh , it's the it's through gamma , I guess gamma records , which is run by larry jackson . I'm not sure if you ever heard of it . Yes , yeah , so he , he runs that uh sector over there , so I have something with them , but nothing like where , like , my publishing is in play got it .
I don't know how do you like this like direct to consumer play , like the little russells of the world what he's doing . I love that , I do .
I love that because then like his family can eat
¶ Vegas Music Scene Challenges
forever you know what I mean like even long after he's gone . You know what I mean . So I think that was so dope , like how he's pushing that like man be independent , like can you just imagine if drake was independent ? That'd be wild . He'd be like rich by far .
He'd be like and and that was the whole thing like elon musk , yeah like if he was like the labels are making maybe two or three times what he's making like you know what I mean .
Yeah , drake was a rocket , yeah like you know , I'm saying like and , by the way , incredible artists , like incredible , like , even with like michael jackson , you know , I mean like michael jackson owned a lot of people's publishing , like the beatles and everybody he owned a part of . Something like when you see sony , like the , the sony I .
I can't remember what it was part of sony that he had , yeah , but he owned like majority of people's publishing over there that's crazy . So that's why he was just super duper powerful in the industry , not just only as an artist , but as a businessman too as well .
That's where he really shifted , even his own , like portfolio of money he became really rich .
Not from his records , yeah , not even from his like you know , when you own the beatles like , yeah , I heard that whole story like that and then like eminem , like like come on , yeah , I heard that whole story like that's it , and then like Eminem , like ridiculous , come on let's be real , that's ridiculous , yeah , so like , are you seeing different ways now
because , like before the streaming service , you get your money off of that are you seeing different ways now of probably learning from your father of things that had worked for him ?
yeah making these adjustments and pivots like yeah , I mean like different ways to even through , like social media like a lot of people's music is blowing up through , like tiktok , you know , like an instagram reels and snapchat .
You know I'm saying just like different little stuff , like people are doing to make money , like I know artists who strictly just put out music on tiktok , specifically , specifically , like just make tiktok records and that's selling , that's crazy that you would have that business mindset of just TikTok only yeah .
Because a lot of I think their algorithm is really good at getting you fast and long exposure .
Yeah , they do the best job about making things go viral , right , right , and then like you know , like with new technology , like your phone's always listening , Everything's always like , so like you're constantly in the algorithm . You know what I mean . So , in the algorithm , you know what I mean .
So you could just make a simple little beat , you know what I'm saying , and put an ocean in front of it and put it behind the ocean and put it on tiktok . Now that video has 900 000 likes and that's you know .
I'm saying you're making , you could do that money off .
Uh , that's a real , just that . You know , I mean real statement . So it's so many ways you can get your music out there like it's . It's pretty incredible , it's like it's mind-boggling at this point , so I don't see a lot of people start to do it behind , like paywalls , right yeah you have these different subscription-based models what they do ?
is they do these shorts on tiktok ?
give you a little snippet right , but follow me on uh-huh what's the the terms of the p , I can't remember the patreon right patreon and hit my paywall so you can get my full album . I've seen that . I wonder if that's kind of like where you see a double dip at that point . Yeah , yeah , it's incredible how people are doing it .
I think it's dope so staying independent . If you could just get your money and just stay out there .
They're trying to shut it down , but to me , I think that's like you said it lets you own your own content . It makes you the , you're the most money , you're the entertainer , you're the artist . I don't know why people like you know really hate on it , like let it go I don't , I don't like it , man , but you know it's , I don't .
I still don't even find anything wrong with signing to labels , like you know , like sometimes I like , I see people just need that .
Like you know , I mean like structure yeah , structure you know , I mean like I mean just drake in general , just being able to put out , I mean not even market , and then put your album out tonight , yeah , and it can go .
That is true , because to me it seems a lot easier , like if I'm a person I just want to focus on . I don't want to worry about distributing , I don't want to worry about marketing , I just want to put it out .
You know what I mean like a lot of people talent here , like it's a lot of good talent here , I agree they undershadow a lot too I go to some place on the whole like random spots . I'm like damn yeah yeah , like there's a bunch of spots where I've been to and I've seen local artists perform and they sound amazing , super talented .
Yeah , but because like they just don't have that back and push it's like , you know it's up .
So that's
¶ New Album and Music Strategy
why I hate it that we don't , because we're the we're like the international hub of everything . Everybody comes to Vegas . Who doesn't ?
come to Vegas .
And it sucks that we don't have that battery pack Right ? I remember we had Mike P on Right right , yeah , yeah , yeah , absolutely .
And he was mentioning that and he was saying , like the Dre's and things of the world , and you got all the top artists that you're paying all this big money and then Vegas is kind of left , which kind of sucks , man , yeah , man .
So we try to there's a little hole in the wall they go to . Like you know , I think Chicago has a Fox Theater , like Detroit right , right .
You go to these little spots and you can hear the local talent really try to make their . New York has different spots .
Vegas . Everything here is geared towards . If you're doing that , you're- .
You're out of pocket now You're out of pocket , gonna take for a local artist to make it to a ? A dre's nightclub , uh , daylight nightclub , uh , you know what I'm saying ? A zook , uh , omnia like it's gonna take ones yeah it's gonna take that for them to okay . Now we have an artist , you know I mean , I think , that's what we have .
We haven't embraced anybody yet who's an artist , and I think that's to come it's gotta be .
you know , hey man , it's gotta stay here . Look , man , you know what I'm following . You come from a blood . You come from a bloodline it's and artists , and I think that's to come . It's got to be you , hey man , they got to stay here . They can't come and make it . You come from a bloodline , it's got to be you .
Man , you know , I'm just following in God's footsteps .
Whatever he got planned for me , I like that humbleness , you know , whatever he got , planned for me .
I'm super-duper grateful for do well like but what happens ?
when they do well here , they leave , yeah , and so I think you have to be in that home right culture , like right , you don't really rep las vegas . I think it doesn't happen a lot from a music . No , it doesn't , it doesn't .
But you know , I see they , they they take advantage of , like you know , you see the edm djs doing really well yeah , you know , like they embrace that . They embrace that very much .
But what's the hip ? At least the hip hop , maybe the jazz aspect of it . Yeah , you don't see that You're right . But you are right , edm getting oh my God , stay here , stay getting paid , and they're getting .
Yeah , yeah , yeah . I just seen John Summit , like not too long ago at Live or something like that . His show is amazing , his show is super amazing . But man , but man , he's making a lot of money is he ?
I don't even know who that is . I ain't even gonna front , I'm not even gonna lie .
I don't know who that is , edm one of the biggest in the world right now . I don't know EDM . I know Shaq does EDM . I only know cause .
I saw that .
I can't get into EDM music .
I can't get into it .
I can party to it , but I can't listen . I can't , I can't listen to it on my day how do you get your music out , man ?
is it because you seem like you got an organic way of putting it out ?
for me it's just like instagram you know phone to phone , like you know , like youtube .
Okay for me you know , like get it out directly yeah , just write directly to the people who , who like me , I feel like first you have to just write directly to the people who , who like me , I feel like first you have to just have this mass of people who are invested into you , you know what I mean and just keep flooding them , keep feeding them .
You know I'm saying you know you go to a mcdonald's and they have your favorite , you know food over there , like you're gonna keep going back because they keep giving it to you . Yeah , you know what I mean . Yeah , that's what you have to do . Just give them what they like , just keep giving them what they like .
I always wonder this is , like you know , like a lot of people make it big by getting their first feature right and they pay a lot of money for those first features right . And I always get curious . Like we know , most people that are trying to come up don't have 200 , 300 now pay-per-face feature . What do they do get investors for it ?
like , yeah , I mean , I think that's part . That's a part of the music industry for sure , like I know a lot of artists who've been backed by investors and stuff like that and it's worked for them . Yeah , it's worked like there's there's probably countless of artists in the game right now- what does that mean ?
like jack harlow , for sure , I think , yeah , yeah , yeah , like absolutely I wouldn't doubt it . Yeah , I wouldn't doubt her .
Like you know , the sexy reds or you know . I'm saying like her record went stupid viral , yeah , immediately , and then like the Glorillas and stuff like that , like that's how it starts , and then the investors .
What's the guy's name ? That independent that blows up does everything independent ?
the long run . I know what you're talking about . I can't think of his name .
He has an amazing concept that he ah shit , you know . You know exactly who he is . He's done a bunch of music he's like is he Middle Eastern ? Yeah , I think so . You know exactly who I'm talking about .
Russ , russ , russ . Is he Middle Eastern ? I might be wrong . Maybe I think so . He looks like a Middle Eastern . I think so I might be wrong .
Apologize , russ , if I'm getting your dissent wrong , but one thing that I heard say why would you pay like a million dollars down , take a loan out and pay that monthly that ? And I was like I never heard an artist say that before . That's smart . So , like , for example , when he's doing a concert , let's say you got to rent out . Like .
Let's say , you rent out Madison Square Garden , whatever it is , you got to rent out Madison Square Garden , right , I don't know , but then you would take the loan out for it and then pay them monthly .
Wow , I never thought of that .
Because to keep the low overhead .
That might be true . Yeah , that might be true . I've never seen anything like that . That's crazy . Yeah , russ is his name , russ .
Yeah , we brought him up a couple times In the independent realm , I think he's huge he's huge yeah he's a beast .
His fan base is humongous .
Yeah , he's a beast with it . Yeah , so you got the new single out , saint . Yeah ,
¶ Working With His Father
is it true ? You're working on a new album too ?
I am . Yeah , Okay , I am .
I am . So what can we expect with the new album ?
Just a fun sound Like I'm kind of just showing you who I am music that I like . You know what I mean . So this is like long overdue for me , okay , um , because I've just never putting out a body of work .
So it's like you know how many songs are we working on ? 11 or 12 , okay , 11 or 12 , okay .
Yeah , like I I like that number . Like you know what I mean , I don't want to give you too much , but you know , give you a little bit you can sit with . You know what I mean . So just showing you how like I'm more diverse than just you know the turned up hip hop like . I got a . I got a couple records on there you know what I mean love that .
One thing I've seen more too , is like I know I got the new music , but I've seen like now , a lot of music that I'm seeing is like one and a half minutes . Oh yeah , I believe in that . Short and sweet , yeah , I think that's kind of like the new thing that's making an impact . I believe in that cold-heartedly because you know , with our generation .
you know what I'm saying Like everything is so like Fast . You know you read something real quick . All right , I'm out of here .
I'm out of here Literally two seconds .
My tears can't hold the attention at all . It's like the be two minutes , depending on how good the song is .
So you're not playing to the old heads is what you say no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no no no , no , no , no , no , no ,
no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no . That's incredible tell me about . So ? Are you working with your father ?
on this . Yeah , my dad has a couple records on it .
Okay , that'd be fun , so I'm curious what's it like working with him , as far as the honesty it's ?
actually fun . It's super fun .
I mean , for me it's like seeing the way he thinks and then like he can look back and be like oh , this is how you guys are doing because , like what I was like very interesting , yeah , like with him like , don't get me wrong , like in technology he's like here , yeah , but like I show him like kind of like a quicker way , you know , I mean just being
like a millennial like , or not even like gen z yeah you know , I'm saying just we can get here like , yeah , right , like you know what I mean . So just seeing that , because I know back in the day they used to play stuff out . You know I'm saying they're real composers .
Yeah , producers back in the day are really composers , so they used to do stuff like that . Nowadays you do everything from your laptop .
That's ridiculous sometimes people do it from their phone .
I know people who record from their phone and it's studio quality . That's wild . That's ridiculous , yeah , okay , so I'm just showing them different ways and just a different sound too . You know what I mean Like what's new right now , and then kind of just mixing the two , you know what I mean , so still giving you that old little feel .
You know what I'm saying a fun vibe like you know I mean . So when will your new album ?
come out ? Is that 2025 ? Yeah , it'll be 2025 summertime summertime .
Okay , so it's coming quick so it might be done . Yeah , I mean for right now . You know I've just been seeing , you know , the different reactions from saint . You know I'm saying getting it played in different clubs and you know I'm saying I've been spun in miami , houston , atlanta .
So just seeing those vibes , you know what mean , and seeing how it would go , and now I'm locked and loaded , I'm ready to release again .
Do you ever , especially because you got the pulse right out of the crowd of being a DJ and all that do you ever just throw on your own music ? Yeah , absolutely .
I mean for me , like I look at , like a huge inspiration of it is his records . I'm gonna be honest with you complex con yeah , just did you see .
You seen his performance and I'm gonna be honest , I forgot how . I forgot all the hits that he had . See , he is a beast . He's a beast and not rapping at all , just playing , just all the music records that he produced .
So why can't somebody who's a rapper do the same thing ?
Yeah , I love that .
I mean it makes sense If you can DJ . Yeah Y'all , look like y'all could be family man , yeah , yeah . Oh my everybody said that .
That's my God . You said it , that's my God . Man Shout out to Cho . That's my dog , you're a talent to do . Yeah , yeah , yeah , absolutely so you do play your music just to feel the pulse . I do , just to feel the pulse , just to see .
And then also for me it's like getting reactions like how do people ? Because for me it's like reading people . Being a dj , you have to read . You know you have to fill the room . You got to know what's going on . Yeah , so for me it's like just seeing .
You know , does this make a girl who's 21 , who just turned 21 , who having her birthday , does it make her move at 12 o'clock at night ? If it does , I know I got something you know what I mean . And if it don't , then maybe this song isn't for her .
You know what I'm saying .
So that's just for me , that's how I kind of take DJing now . But I think that'll be super dope for rappers and if you guys could imagine if you could just go and just play your records .
I mean it makes sense . I always wanted that because , like you know , comedy people do this right they go do stand-up comedy If a joke don't hit .
I change my joke , I change my joke and then I go do something different . That's a very good point . Go back to the drawing board . Go back to the drawing board and tweak a little thing here and there . Yeah , like Drake goes to Houston and he'll go to one of the regular just clubs that's going on and play one of his and just see what it does .
You got to see . You got to see .
You know what I'm saying ? That's an immediate reaction , right yeah , I'm surprised they don't do that more often .
I mean the sound might change and you don't know , because you're just stuck in your ways . Like artists , you know kind of get stuck in that .
Oh , like artists , you know , kind of get stuck in that . Oh well , I've had a hit or two .
So yeah , you know it is what it is . I could keep doing this and it's gonna work . No , buddy , yeah , you gotta make a doubt , you know , and everything's constantly changing now .
So it's like yeah , I get it . What's the biggest lesson you think you learned from your father , whether just business or life in general , man ?
man for me . Um , I think , uh , staying consistent with anything that you do you know what I mean and have a regimen . You know what I mean . Stay on top of your stuff , stay honest to people , that's one thing .
Stay honest and believe in your craft for sure , because you never know what's your regimen like Are you in the studio pretty much every day , like are you in the studio .
I'm in the studio every day .
There is not a day I miss excellent yeah , no , I'm in the studio every single day , and then for me , like during the weekends , that's when I dj , so I'll be in the studio during the day yeah , I'm able to work on my craft and then , uh , at nighttime I'm in somebody's nightclub you know so , but it it helps because it keeps me still networking , shaking
certain hands , staying in the mix , you know , I mean I don't know how important that is , man man it's extremely
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nowadays , especially so .
There's the music industry too , right more important , yeah , you have to know .
And then you know , just keep your face card good and everything you know . I mean just staying in the mix and you know being yourself , be yourself .
Yeah , you know so do you feel like it get really , really fake at times too ? Yeah , how do you deal with that ? Because that's what drives me crazy .
Oh my god , I mean this .
It's fake individuals everywhere yeah , that's true , but don't you feel like it's more in the music space though ?
absolutely okay . Everybody's , not themselves . So just stay in your realm of people you know , just stay around the people you know , the people that you started out with . Yeah , stay with them . You don't have to be everybody's friend .
Yeah , you know , at the end of the day it's a business and I think a lot of people shift that and they're like , oh , this is my God .
This is my partner .
You know what I'm saying ? My partner is my brother . No , it's not .
That's why I respect , like not to change the subject but like LeBron for a reason is because he stayed with the same crew from the jungle .
The same guys from high school .
Yeah , and they're all rich , all these guys . Man , they stayed with the same clique .
Yeah , why can't we just stay with the guys who love you and want to see you shine and you want to see them shine and want to see you shine and you want to see them shine , protect you too . Yeah , yeah , you know what I mean . I feel like we start getting around people who just , you know , kind of just leech .
You know , I'm saying that's one thing I caught , like from being out here , like people do leech on and it's like , ah man , just rock with the people who rock with you , because once you start switching up , that's when things go bad I get getting bad , I get it .
But business advice , man . What's one piece of business advice just as an artist , you know that or maybe just whatever comes to you as far as a gym that maybe has helped you .
Maybe , now that you've been working every single day about to put that album out , what you learned from your father , what you learned maybe from like a 21 Savage or different people you've been in the studio with , stay independent , really .
You think , okay , from people you've been in the studio with , stay independent , okay , but uh , okay no like , even aside from that um just making sure . Yeah , I mean just saying just just having your publishing in order . You know what I mean . Having like making sure you're on top of your stuff . You know I'm saying you're owning your own stuff .
You know what I mean like , and even like just being original , because you know , everything is just so copycat so important yeah so just just stay , stay original as much as possible .
You know , I'm saying like that's , that's one piece of advice I I feel like I could give to anybody , you know , I mean just be yourself love that , you know I'm saying so love that .
Just transition a little bit . We always talk about food , man . I know you talk about big jerk man . We always , we always talk about food .
I know you talk about .
Big Jerk man . We always ask everybody favorite restaurant in Vegas . Man , oh favorite restaurant in Vegas um it can be anything strip . I like Herbs and Rye oh yeah that's a good one .
Herbs is excellent . I love Herbs and Rye .
I like the Henry I like which one's the Henry , a steakhouse no , that's in Cosmo . That's in Cosmo . It's like a breakfast . It's late night . It's like a breakfast . It has everything . I've actually been there before yes . The .
Henry , I love the Henry .
Nobody's mentioned the Henry before what's ?
another spot I like out here .
Herbs and Rye is excellent . Herbs and Rye is so , by the way . Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah they do Everything there .
Oh my the drink man . That's what gets me every time . Oh my God , they out the chain .
I love that spot . Let me think there's a lot of good food spots out here .
But you mentioned Henry and Herb's and Rye's two good ones . Yeah yeah , Henry is that place , Probably because I get it . It works for me , Even like the Henry .
That stays . It opens at 11 o'clock at night , oh okay , and then it's open until like 8 , 9 in the morning . You know what I mean . I gotta remember that .
Yeah same , I gotta remember that I go to Cosmo all the time . Oh yeah , Go to the .
Cosmo .
I think , I've been to Henry only one time , that's crazy .
What's that Fuku Burger ? Oh my God , have you guys had ?
Fuku .
Burger .
We had Colin on the show . Fuku Burger . Colin was just at our event a couple weeks ago man , colin's my guy , colin sponsor me .
You heard that , colin , I'm in your restaurant all the time .
He's amazing man . He's inside the Raiders Stadium and then he's got . What is it ? Spring Mountain in Chinatown , off Warm Springs .
So he's got three springs . Warm Springs is the one I got .
Shout out to I love them .
I love that spot the burgers there Probably the best burger in Vegas . Really , I would agree yeah .
Best burger in Vegas . For sure we got the same palate .
All right , all right , we good Love it man .
What else man ? What man I mean well , first , I appreciate
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you guys .
Of course I appreciate you . You know it's always good talking to y'all . Thank you , man . Thank you , you know what I'm saying . I could say you know new music on the way . Okay , you know a different couple of stuff . I got stuff with Trey Songz coming up Come on . I yeah , yeah , yeah , so a couple of things with Trey coming up .
He actually has a show out here In Vegas , yeah , yeah , that's coming up weekend , so he'll be here . Where's he doing his show ? At MGM .
He's on the Millennium Tour Bow , wow , I'm tripping .
Yeah , yeah , yeah .
Rick Ross and Boosie's all in the tour or whatever . But yeah , I got new stuff coming coming out . Of course my stuff . You know what I'm saying . Keep streaming , Saint .
Saint , you got something there , man . I'm not just saying that to you . You got something there , man . I appreciate it . Man , shout out to G6 . I know he's one of yeah , I'm my dog G .
My dog G in the back . They put us together .
You know what I'm saying .
I . I said okay , no , he heard that record . He went crazy . He called me Yo , this is the one . You got an energy on there . Man , I'm a big energy person .
So music is energy and it got to get in your spirit . And that one I'm going to give you a props man for me , you know , it's all about fun vibes , good vibes chill vibes .
You know what I'm saying . When I did put it out , I was like you know what I feel like this is one of them .
Wines yeah , yeah , okay , awesome man . We're going to keep supporting you , man . We appreciate you coming and sitting down with us , man .
I appreciate it man .
What Well , follow this young man , man , the next up . I'm going to send you the next up man . I appreciate it , dog , I appreciate it . Same Vegas , same Vegas man . Oh yeah , I'm here , I'm here .
I'm a local .
Make this your home . Man , Don't leave this one . This is my home . Go back to Atlanta . This is my home . I appreciate your time .
My pleasure , that was good man , yes , sir .