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Unsupervised Learning with Jacob Effron

We probe the sharpest minds in AI in search for the truth about what’s real today, what will be real in the future and what it all means for businesses and the world. If you’re a builder, researcher or investor navigating the AI world, this podcast will help you deconstruct and understand the most important breakthroughs and see a clearer picture of reality. Follow this show and consider enabling notifications to stay up to date on our latest episodes. Unsupervised Learning is a podcast by Redpoint Ventures, an early-stage venture capital fund that has invested in companies like Snowflake, Stripe, and Mistral. Hosted by Redpoint investor Jacob Effron alongside Patrick Chase, Jordan Segall and Erica Brescia.
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Episodes

Bonus Episode: Sam Altman (CEO, OpenAI) Talks GPT-4o and Predicts the Future of AI

In this cross-over episode, Sam Altman sat down with Logan on the day of the ChatGPT-4o announcement to share behind-the-scenes details of the launch and offer his predictions for the future of AI. Altman delves into OpenAI’s vision, discusses the timeline for achieving AGI, and explores the societal impact of humanoid robots. He also expresses his excitement and concerns about AI personal assistants, highlights the biggest opportunities and risks in the AI landscape today, and much more. (0:00)...

May 20, 202454 min

Ep 33: CTO and Co-Founder of Sourcegraph on Current Landscape and Future of Software Development, How to Make RAG Better, and Building Towards the Agentic Future

On this week’s Unsupervised Learning, Pat and I sat down with CTO and Co-Founder of Sourcegraph, Beyang Liu. Sourcegraph is a leader in the AI coding space, and recently launched AI coding assistant, Cody. Beyang shared with us his view on the current landscape of AI coding and the future of coding and software development. He also shared how Sourcegraph has tried to make RAG better, and their model eval approaches. (0:00) intro (0:47) advice for young coders (3:34) AI products at Sourcegraph (6...

Apr 30, 20241 hr 37 minEp. 33

Ep 32: CEO and Founder of Pinecone Edo Liberty on Pioneering Vector Databases, Barriers to Productionalizing Models and Why What’s Happening with GPUs is Not Sustainable

Pinecone has raised over $130 million and was most recently valued at $750 million. On this week’s Unsupervised Learning, we sat down with CEO and Founder of Pinecone, Edo Liberty. Pinecone is arguably one of the most important elements in today's modern datastack. Edo shared with us the most common use cases of Pinecone, the evolving landscape of vector databases, challenges in building vector databases, the "painful" launch of serverless model, and what people get wrong the most about Pinecone...

Apr 16, 20241 hr 1 minEp. 32

Ep 31: CEO and Co-Founder of Mistral Arthur Mensch on the Next Frontiers for LLMs, Why Open Source Will Prevail and AI Safety

Mistral AI is often seen as the startup challenging OpenAI and incumbents developing LLMs. On this week’s episode of Unsupervised Learning, we sat down with CEO and Co-Founder at Mistral AI, Arthur Mensch. Arthur shared with us his view on why open-source will prevail, how Mistral gets LLMs into the hands of enterprises, the build vs. partnership decisions, the competitive landscape and future of LLMs, and how he’d regulate AI safety. (0:00) intro (0:46) origins of the name “Mistral” (2:20) logo...

Mar 28, 202440 minEp. 31

Ep 30: Superhuman CEO Rahul Vohra on the Future of Email with AI and the Role Agents Will Play

Superhuman recently launched AI-powered Summarize and Instant Reply features, and has since processed 4 billion emails. On this week’s episode of Unsupervised Learning, we sat down with CEO and Founder at Superhuman, Rahul Vohra. Rahul shared with us what email will look like in the future, the internal product design decisions in building Summarize and Instant Reply, why he’s bullish on the agentic future, and why and how startups should go after incumbents. (0:00) intro (1:20) why email will n...

Mar 19, 20241 hr 12 minEp. 30

Ep 29: Salesforce AI CEO Clara Shih on Future of Slack, How Gucci Uses AI and Working with Marc Benioff

There’s an ongoing debate about where the most value will accrue in AI between incumbents and startups. Of the incumbents, few have shipped product faster than SalesforceAI. Today on Unsupervised Learning we had on Clara Shih, CEO of SalesforceAI and one of Time Magazine’s 100 Most Influential People in AI. (0:00) intro (0:50) work practices that will become irrelevant (1:37) revolutionizing reply recommendations and case summaries (4:57) newest Salesforce products (5:53) structuring teams (7:22...

Mar 06, 202453 minEp. 29

Ep 28: LangChain CEO Harrison Chase on the Current State of Eval and Agents and The LLM Apps that Will Define 2024

Last week LangChain announced a $20M Series A led by Sequoia and released the paid version of LangSmith, which has already been used by 1K+ teams and driven 80K signups. On this week’s episode of Unsupervised Learning, we sat down with LangChain Co-Founder and CEO Harrison Chase to talk about the current state of LLM evaluation, observability, and the agent landscape. (0:00) intro (1:07) applications of AI in the sports world (3:26) what does LangChain do? (7:51) building with LangSmith (10:00) ...

Feb 20, 20241 hr 5 minEp. 28

Ep 27: Oscar Co-Founder Mario Schlosser on How LLMs Can Be Used in Healthcare Today and The Path to AI Doctors

Oscar Health is a $4B public healthcare company, providing healthcare insurance to nearly 1 million members. Oscar is at the forefront of AI adoption, continuously developing new AI use cases in healthcare. On this week’s episode of Unsupervised Learning, we sat down with Oscar Health Co-Founder, former CEO, and now President of Technology Mario Schlosser to talk about where AI will have the biggest impact in healthcare, top AI use cases at Oscar today, AI adoption challenges Oscar is facing, an...

Feb 13, 20241 hr 4 minEp. 27

Ep 26: Replit Founder Amjad Masad on the 1000x Engineer, ChatBots are Overhyped and Why We Don’t Really Have True Open-Source Models

Replit raised nearly $100M at $1.2B valuation last April and powers over 20M developers. On this week’s episode of Unsupervised Learning, we sat down with Replit Founder and CEO Amjad Masad to talk about the future of software development, how Replit is empowering young users, how Replit developed its own models, and the data advantage Replit has. Amjad also shared his takes on why he’s bullish on agents, where the value in AI will most likely accrue and why open-source models might not be truly...

Feb 06, 20241 hr 10 minEp. 26

Ep 25: Intercom Co-Founder Des Traynor on Building Winning AI Strategy and Where We Are in the AI Adoption Curve

Intercom is one of the earliest adopters of AI - its AI product Fin has generated over two million answers and been used by thousands of users since it was launched last March. On this week’s episode of Unsupervised Learning, we sat down with Intercom Co-Founder and Chief Strategy Officer Des Traynor to talk about how AI is incorporated into Intercom, structuring its AI team, using RAG vs. fine-tuning techniques, where we are in the AI adoption curve, and his advice for startups building on top ...

Jan 24, 202457 minEp. 25

Ep 24: OpenAI Head of DevRel Logan Kilpatrick on The Best ChatGPT Use Cases, Future of Agents, and Google Gemini

OpenAI's inaugural DevDay sparked excitement in the AI community, with several product releases and ChatGPT hitting the milestone of reaching 100M weekly active users. On this week’s episode of Unsupervised Learning, we sat down with the Head of Developer Relations at OpenAI, Logan Kilpatrick. Logan shared with us how OpenAI prioritizes product builds internally, the interesting use cases he's seen for several OpenAI products, where OpenAI is headed, and what the Gemini release means for the eco...

Jan 09, 20241 hr 7 minEp. 24

Ep 23: Perplexity CEO Aravind Srinivas on the future of Search, OpenAI Wrappers and Using AI to Talk to Loved Ones

Perplexity is a next-gen search tool going after Google, with 1M Android app installs and 1M iOS installs within only 8 months of product launch. On this week’s episode of Unsupervised Learning, we sat down with the CEO and Co-Founder of Perplexity AI, Aravind Srinivas. Aravind shared with us the behind-the-scenes stories of how Perplexity AI was born (37:19), how he thinks about Perplexity being viewed as a "wrapper" (24:01), where search will be in 10 years (23:08), and where Perplexity is hea...

Dec 14, 20231 hr 6 minEp. 23

Special Episode: A Full Breakdown of the OpenAI Saga and What It Means for AI Founders

In light of one of the biggest news stories in AI, we’ve put together a special episode to discuss the ramifications of Sam Altmans’ firing from OpenAI. Regardless of what happens between now and when you’re listening to this, the implications of the events that happened over the past few days are certainly worth unpacking. About our guests: Alex Konrad, a journalist at Forbes covering Venture Capital and Tech Jason Warner, former CTO at GitHub, partner at Redpoint, and now Founder of AGI start-...

Nov 22, 202347 min

Ep 22: Notion AI Engineer Linus Lee: Behind the Scenes of Notion AI

Linus Lee is an AI engineer at Notion, one of the earliest and most effective adopters of AI. In the episode, Linus shares how Notion developed its AI products, including Writer, Autofill, and Q&A, which just launched on Tuesday. It was fascinating to learn how Notion structures its AI team and dogfoods its development process. Linus also explores the hardest to anticipate when going to market with new AI features, and how Notion thinks of its LLM partnerships. Overall, a wide-ranging conver...

Nov 16, 20231 hr 2 minEp. 22

Ep 21: Modal CEO Erik Bernhardsson on Bringing Development to the Cloud, the GPU Market, and GenAI Music

Jacob and Pat sit down with Erik Bernhardsson, the founder of Modal Labs, a data infrastructure company providing GPU compute to data teams. On this episode we discussed Erik’s thoughts on the AI chip market, the most popular GenAI use cases on Modal, and even Oracle Cloud’s resurgence in the AI start-up market. 0:00 intro 0:45 motivation for founding Modal 6:35 advantages that Modal gives developers 9:21 early applications built with Modal 11:58 challenges for AI developers 16:31 GPU access tod...

Oct 31, 202354 minEp. 21

Ep 20: Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei on the Future of AGI, Leading Anthropic, and AI Doom Chances

Special Crossover Episode: We're excited to share this conversation from "The Logan Bartlett Show," another Redpoint podcast that focuses on untold stories from tech's inner circle. In the episode, Logan Bartlett interviews Dario Amodei (CEO, Anthropic) on the future of AI. In the episode, Dario gives detailed predictions on the AI industry for 2024, 2025, and beyond. He discusses his days at OpenAI, leaving to start Anthropic, why he doesn’t like the term AGI, what AI developments he’s most exc...

Oct 16, 20231 hr 49 minEp. 20

Ep 19: Tome CEO Keith Peiris on Disrupting Powerpoint and Scaling To Millions of Users

Jacob and Pat sit down with Tome Co-Founder and CEO Keith Peiris to discuss Tome’s go-to market strategy, deciphering through the “AI tourists” to identify their ideal customer profile (ICP), and the different hardware cost considerations when reaching enterprise scale. 0:00 intro 1:35 founding Tome 5:05 designing Tome 10:30 how users want to interact with AI 12:26 teaching users how to use Tome 20:13 partnering with model providers vs. building your own 28:43 model evaluation 31:23 building an ...

Sep 28, 202347 minEp. 19

Ep 18: LlamaIndex CEO Jerry Liu on Trends in LLM Applications

Jacob and Pat sit down with LlamaIndex CEO Jerry Liu to discuss his motivations for building LlamaIndex, thoughts on building enterprise-ready LLM applications and agents, and when fine-tuning makes sense. 0:00 intro 1:02 the evolution of LlamaIndex 3:48 apps being built with LlamaIndex 6:39 making agents more effective 12:58 retrieval augmented generation 16:49 what’s the right level of abstraction for LlamaIndex? 19:42 balancing reasoning and knowledge 30:46 storage for embeddings 36:03 underu...

Sep 19, 202347 minEp. 18

Ep 17: Nomic AI Co-Founder Andriy Mulyar on "GPT-4-All", LLMs in Video Games, and Apple's AI Strategy

Jordan and Erica sit down with Andriy Mulyar, Founder & CTO of Nomic AI, and discuss his motivation for creating GPT4ALL, the importance of data-centric AI, the use of LLMs in video games, and which technology companies are well positioned to “win” in the GenAI market long term. 0:00 intro 0:59 getting into AI and meeting Brandon 2:27 starting Nomic 7:43 how people are using Atlas 10:31 hallucinations in LLMs 13:05 gpt4all 17:25 building LLMs into video games 26:31 where does Nomic go from h...

Sep 12, 202345 minEp. 17

Ep 16: VP of Generative AI at Adobe Alexandru Costin on The Future of Content Creation

Patrick and Jacob sit down with Alexandru Costin, the VP of Generative AI and Sensei at Adobe, and discuss how Adobe’s early projects with generative AI in 2019 helped them move quickly upon the release of LLMs and diffusion models. Before leading Adobe’s generative AI efforts he founded InterAKT, a web development company, and led Adobe Romania for 10 years. 00:00 intro 01:44 Adobe Romania and background 02:26 AI projects at Adobe 10:03 incorporating AI into existing products 16:34 educating Ad...

Aug 29, 202352 minEp. 16

Ep 15: Snorkel AI CEO Alex Ratner on What's Needed for Wider-Spread Enterprise AI Adoption

Jacob sits down with Alex to discuss how Snorkel grew from an open-source project in a Stanford AI lab to a $1B company. Alex shares his thoughts on why data development is at the heart of AI development, why enterprises are slow to deploy LLM applications, and the importance of academia in the future of AI development. 00:00 intro 01:03 moving from academia to Snorkel 05:08 the evolution of Snorkel 18:33 improving pre-training 21:37 avoiding hallucinations and other errors 33:00 barriers to ent...

Aug 18, 202347 minEp. 15

Ep 14: Chroma CEO Jeff Huber on Vector Databases, Multimodal Embeddings & Building an AI Startup

On today’s episode we talk with Jeff Huber, the CEO and Co-founder of Chroma. We talk about what sets Chroma apart from its competitors, new developments in AI technology, and advice for listeners who want to get started in AI. 0:00 intro 1:02 starting chroma 6:08 vector databases 10:03 interesting use cases for vector databases 13:14 what sets chroma apart? 23:00 unresolved questions in LLMs 32:45 multiple agents vs. one agent to rule them all 34:50 chroma’s future 38:00 embedding models 43:00 ...

Aug 01, 202349 minEp. 14

Ep 13: PathAI CEO Dr. Andy Beck on the Future of AI in Medical Diagnosis

Jacob sits down with PathAI Ceo Dr. Andy Beck to discuss the state of AI adoption in diagnosis, why Path acquired their own lab, pathologists' jobs in the future and nailing GTM to reach a ~$1B valuation. 00:00 intro 01:01 pathology and AI 13:30 nailing go-to-market strategy 19:47 how pathology labs can go digital 25:36 regulatory frameworks and roadblocks 33:05 do improvements in foundation models impact PathAI? 36:26 standardizing diagnosis 40:05 how will the job of a pathologist change going ...

Jul 25, 202351 minEp. 13

Ep 12: EleutherAI's Aran Komatsuzaki on Open-Source Models' Future and Thought Cloning

Jacob and Jordan sit down with EleutherAI's Aran Komatsuzaki to discuss the future of open-source models, thought cloning, his work on GPT-J and more. 0:00 intro 01:06 Aran’s background 02:58 starting work on gpt-j 05:49 gathering data for Lion and gpt-j 08:51 history of EleutherAI 11:16 open vs. closed-source models 19:06 how will open-source models be used going forward 21:33 thought cloning 25:51 building AI models that understand video 29:35 one model to rule them all 31:58 influence of acad...

Jul 19, 202343 minEp. 12

Ep 11: Stanford Professor Tatsu Hashimoto on AI Biases and Improving LLM Performance

Patrick and Jacob sit down with Tatsu Hashimoto, Professor of AI at Stanford, to discuss the incredible open source projects from his research group like Alpaca and AlpacaFarm, whether data, algorithms, fine-tuning or RLHF is most important for performance, if AI is liberal or conservative, and much more! (0:00) - intro (1:05) - journey to Stanford (2:50) - origins of Alpaca (6:08) - capabilities of the Alpaca model (16:39) - the future of AI (20:07) - AlpacaFarm (21:37) - how to improve languag...

Jul 05, 202350 minEp. 11

Ep 10: Insitro CEO Daphne Koller on Using ML to Change Drug Discovery

Jacob sits down with Insitro CEO Daphne Koller to discuss founding Coursera, where and how ML can drive the most impact in drug development, and if foundation models can transform core drug discovery work and edtech. (00:00) - intro (00:54) - Daphne’s journey (09:18) - AI and biology discovery (10:59) - insitro vs. traditional pharma (20:04) - phenotyping patients (26:01) - early mistakes (29:51) - the future of data (35:33) - partnering with larger pharma companies (38:17) - impact of LLMs on b...

Jun 13, 202349 minEp. 10

Ep 9: Open AI VP of Product Peter Welinder on OpenAI’s Strategy and AI’s Future

Jacob sits down with OpenAI VP of Product & Partnerships Peter Welinder and guest host Rob Toews (Radical VC Partner) to discuss OpenAI’s strategy, how they think about what they will/won’t build, the future of open source models and when we’ll reach AGI. (00:00) - intro (00:42) - where is the value in AI? (07:51) - how OpenAI prioritizes projects (14:15) - open-source AI (25:49) - gaps in AI (29:36) - risks and downsides (34:02) - when will we reach super-intellegence? (40:40) - super-intel...

Jun 07, 202350 minEp. 9

Ep 8: Ex-DeepMind/WhiteHouse Operator Tantum Collins on AI Regulation and Geopolitical Impacts

Jacob sits down with ex-DeepMind / White House operator Teddy Collins to discuss Sam Altman’s Congressional testimony, how AI can enable direct democracy, state-driven economic planning and better orgs, US-China competition and more. (00:00) - intro (01:15) - how Teddy came to the AI world (06:26) - working in government (12:27) - AI regulation and Sam Altman testimony (19:19) - the end of humanity (34:34) - nearer term issues with AI (41:10) - how the government can use AI (47:13) - lessons fro...

May 31, 20231 hr 1 minEp. 8

Ep 7: Co-Creator of Databricks Dolly Mike Conover on Open-Source LLMs

Patrick and Jacob sit down with Mike Conover, Staff Software Engineer at Databricks and Co-Creator of Databricks Dolly, the world’s first truly open instruction-tuned LLM, to discuss the magic behind Dolly, Alpaca and other instruction-tuned LLMs, the unreasonable effectiveness of fine-tuning, how they got all Databricks employees to help them curate the Dolly dataset (hint: google forms), and more. (0:00) - Intro (5:54) - The birth of Dolly (12:03) - Data curation at Databricks (15:34) - Advice...

May 11, 202349 minEp. 7

Ep 6: Jasper CEO Dave Rogenmoser on the Future of Writing with AI

Jacob and Erica sit down with Jasper CEO Dave Rogenmoser to discuss the future of writing with AI and what it means for marketers and the internet, Jasper post ChatGPT, hosting a massive Gen AI conference, going upmarket and more. (00:56) - How Jasper works and how people are using it (02:00) - Dave's journey leading up to Jasper (04:30) - The moment Dave knew he was onto something with Jasper (07:30) - Where Jasper works well for business applications (10:55) - How the content of the internet m...

Apr 19, 202341 minEp. 6
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