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Danielle Cobo: What would you do if you were on the brink of participating in the Olympics and just months before? Circumstances prevented that from happening. Today, we have the privilege of hearing from Villis Ozles, a former member of the Canadian National Volleyball Team, Pro Beach Volleyball Tour competitor, and former NCAA Women's Volleyball Coach.
Villis is the author of three books, Motivational Leaders, Grand Stories, and Motivational Selling. His diverse career spans over 30 years, during which he excelled in leadership roles. in sales, customer service, marketing, and corporate training. A very diverse background. Above all, Vilas takes pride in his family, participating in raising his four children, which two of them he adopted from Eastern Europe.
So we're thrilled to welcome Vilas today. Thanks for joining.
Vilis Ozols: Thank you.
Danielle Cobo: Well, between being an athlete, a professional speaker, and also an NCAA coach, all these years, tell me more about your adversity journey and your takeaways going through some of those challenges. What helped you be unstoppable?
Vilis Ozols: thank you for that intro, Danielle.
That was, awesome. And, It's interesting, you know, having a diverse background, I think most people tend to fall back on one thing that they've done. And I think I've been fortunate enough that I tend to maybe try and combine a bunch of those backgrounds. I do fall back on having been an athlete, but let's face it, I'm old and telling sports stories from when I was a youngster or, in better shape.
kind of sounds like your parents when they tell you about how they walked to school back and forth and snow storms kind of thing. but yeah, I do, I do fall back on my athletic background. The played professionally, you know, you just, you learn stuff and then, having coached, I think the biggest, the biggest thing that happened when you become a coach is it's no longer about can you do it or did you do it?
It's getting someone else to do it It can be frustrating. It is an entire different skill set. and then what you find is that you really, at least I found that I would fall back on every little bit that I could, in terms of how I could help my athletes, you know, the young ladies to just be as they possibly could.
now
Danielle Cobo: I have a question here cause we were talking about adversity and we're talking about challenges. Tell me a little bit, you were on the brinks of going to the Olympics, but you said something happened. What
Vilis Ozols: was that? Yeah, that's, uh, you know, it was years ago. So, I'll take you back. So this was, back in the eighties and, I was on the, Canadian junior national volleyball team and the Canadian team had qualified for the 1980 Olympics.
I was still on the junior national team at that point in time, but I don't know if you remember, but we boycotted the 1980 Olympics. That was the one that, when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, everyone knows the U S didn't go, but either did Canada. So I stayed up in Canada, you know, I had scholarship offers in the U.
S. but stayed up there, and so now I'm getting ready for the 84 Olympics, I'm with the training squad, I'm one of the top players in the world, and then just prior to the signing of the IOC roster, the one that says you get to go, I was coming down from a block in a practice match and, blew out my ankle, tore all the ligaments, and I don't know if you could picture you or imagine just in a split second knowing that everything you've worked for up to that point in your life just isn't going to happen.
And, they do some weird, weird stuff or weird testing at the national team level. we're like human guinea pigs. And one of the unique things that they had done is they tested us for pain tolerance testing. and that's another story for another time. But, well, one of the unique things is I actually was, tested and I had the highest pain tolerance level of anybody on the volleyball team.
but I can honestly tell you when that ankle went, I felt the most incredible pain that you could possibly even begin to imagine, and it had nothing to do with the physical pain of the ankle going, can take that, but just the idea that knowing that what you work for just isn't going to happen. and that must have been devastating.
Oh, it was. And got worse because I ended up going to the Olympics anyways. So as a spectator, so I watched my team, they made it to the medal round. So now we're the final four at the Olympics, and I'm watching and we lose the semifinal match to, the U S U S goes on and wins the gold.
Then we lose the bronze medal match to Italy. And I had some really dear friends on the U S team. So that night they've won the gold medal and I'm, literally partying with them and touching their gold medal. And you'd think it would be the coolest thing in the world. and it wasn't, it was possibly the lowest point in my life.
And, you ask, so how does that all play? Yeah, it's a sports story and it's, from years ago, but it set the foundations of, everything that I've done since then. and I struggled, I honestly struggled and I think having gone through that struggle really helps me in terms of Both working with my athletes because you know, they go through adversity.
They go through injuries, or even in a business environment, we tend to look at people and look at how successful they are. Most people who've accomplished anything, they've overcome adversity in one form or another. I know you've had share and I know that's part of the, your secret to success because you just keep moving forward.
Now, I
Danielle Cobo: have two questions, but I kind of want to go back a little bit here because I'm just curious. I really want to understand the picture of where you were at when it comes to that moment when you realized you weren't going to be able to go. And that being, how many hours a week did you train?
gosh, it
Vilis Ozols: was the charts and it was as a coach now, we would have never have trained as hard as we did back then. were doing two a day, so three hours, twice a day plus weights every single day. and I remember, that's pretty serious. And, obviously there'd be highs and lows to that, but that was pretty standard and we worked very hard.
So you can just imagine.
Danielle Cobo: So let's put this in perspective. And I know this is a different perspective, but just kind of slightly a twist here. That would be, I come from a sales background and I know that a lot of my listeners are in sales. That would be. At the end of the year, you are, and I have had somebody on my team experience this, 0.
7 percent away from achieving President's Club, Sales Excellence Award. You are right there about to go on that lavish trip, and for us, the company that I work for. They spend about 20, 000 per couple to go on these lavish trips. It was absolutely worth it. I've been on one. But could you imagine just, I know you can, but for our listeners, to be 0.
7 percent away from hitting 20, 000. Sales excellence, President's Club, the bonus, the trip, the recognition. I'd imagine it'd be slightly like that because you're working all year for it, but you had been working a lifetime to go to the
Vilis Ozols: Olympics. Yeah, that's a really good analogy. And, I sometimes feel like my experience pales in comparison to Let's say, like you said, somebody who they're, living or their success from a business standpoint basically follows that same trajectory, or they get close, but they don't get close, you know, they don't make it.
and it's really interesting because it's part of what I teach and what I preach, whether it's to my athletes or whether it's a business seminar. and I honestly, I went through, like we talked about the greatest lows that you can imagine. and I've said this to my athletes, the only way I can live with myself is knowing that all those times that I was training as I did everything I possibly could, you want to give it kind of a, moniker or a phrase is it was basically, it was maximum effort.
I knew that I gave a hundred percent and looking back, the only way I can live with myself is knowing that I couldn't have worked any harder. And I guess if there's some takeaway that, is a learning point. Whether it's in a business environment, a sports environment, whether it's parenting is, did you give it everything you had, and then if you happen to not fail or not make it, you can rest on that.
and that's kept me sane, literally sane all these years, knowing how close you get and maybe not getting there.
Danielle Cobo: That is an excellent point because I rather, at the end of the day, if I don't achieve a particular goal, I rather look back. And reflect, that knowing that I had tried everything that I possibly could then to just give up and always wonder what if, and that's actually when I started my business, I remember looking at my husband one day.
And saying, I, think I want to start this business or I think I want to write a book. And I remember this moment when he at me and he said, you know what? He said, I think you should do it because if you don't, you're always going to wonder what if. And you never want to live your life like that.
And I thought it was such sound advice. And so anytime I'm thinking about taking a risk, I'm going, okay, this is a time to do it. Stretch my out of my comfort zone because I don't want to wonder what if knowing that I, rather fail trying. and look back and know that I tried then to just never do it at all.
I never
Vilis Ozols: know Oh, you're triggering so many thoughts and so many lessons thatHope if I'm even mildly successful that I can teach my athletes, but one of them favorite story I like to tell is I don't you've ever heard of a Coach, he was a basketball coach named Jimmy Valvano, or Jimmy V.
was, one of the most unexpected coaches to win the NCAA basketball tournament. and then he died tragically of brain cancer. And days before he passed away, he went on ESPN and gave this speech about never giving up and like he's an icon and every year they have the Jimmy V Foundation and it's a fundraising for cancer research.
But my first experience with Jimmy V was when they actually won the championship. They were one of the last teams to make it into the tournament. They're not expected to do, make any noise or to do anything. And then they become one of those bracket busters. They just start winning and, beating teams, overtime, win a last second basket.
And to the point where they get to the final game and they're just this prohibitive underdog, and they're playing the university of Houston that sent all five starters to the NBA. And they didn't stand a chance. And when it got to the end of the game with like two, three seconds left, they're down by one point.
And then they sink a miraculous last second basket to win the championship. And whenever they show the March madness, they always show this picture of Jimmy V running around the court, looking for somebody to hug. Cause everybody's taken, you know, they're all on the floor. They're wandering around.
And that's the iconic moment that they always show on TV, whenever there's like a college basketball game. But what I remember is I was watching the game on TV and I, saw the interview afterwards and they, the interviewer asked Jimmy Valvano, they said, well, how did you motivate your kids when you knew you didn't have a chance of winning?
And Jimmy V looked at the reporter like they were from another planet and just said, I don't understand. Like, are you suggesting that If you promise a kid they're going to win, that that's going to motivate them. He says, so you're really asking me what I promised them or what I said to them, here's what I said.
I said, with all of your hard work, with your efforts, sticking to the system, with your attitude, I guarantee you, if you're looking for a guarantee, I guarantee you'll be in a position to win. Nobody can promise what's going to be on, at the end. And that, to me, is one of the best definitions of success I've ever come across.
And it's a little bit of what you were talking about, is you put yourself in a position to win, you start your business, you take a risk, and if you don't get it, you at least have A, hopefully done 100 percent maximum effort, and then B, you've put yourself in a position to win or to take advantage of the opportunities.
And that sounds exactly like what you went through.
Danielle Cobo: put yourself in a position
Vilis Ozols: to win. And then the other thing, and it's, I'm really big on, obviously I like to get into the details and give, people usable stuff they can use, but I've always been a huge advocate of what I call values based decision making.
I got to work with the Disney Corp, many years ago with their Imagineering group and there was this amazing quote in their facility. but it was Walt Disney and everyone can remember the Walt Disney quote that says if you can dream it, you can do it. But this one really resonated with me and what the Walt Disney quote was is when your values are clear, your decision making is easy.
And that to me becomes a foundation of coaching, whether it's coaching athletes, whether it's coaching business leaders is if you can share or if you have a clear, common understanding of what's really important, they'll figure out a way to make it happen. And so that to me was always really critical.
And so, you know, when I look at those, foundational values. One is moving forward. Two is maximum effort. Three is, moving forward. So, that's one that I've always put yourself in a position to win, but the moving forward when in playing defense, one of the things that tends to happen is people tend to plant themselves.
They put their heels down, they stand there, and then if the shot is deflected, spike or the tip. Then they can't move. And so one of the secrets to being a great defensive player is to always be moving forward, even when somebody's smacking a ball at you as hard as they can. And that is one of those values, of maximum effort, position to win, and then always moving forward.
And, you know, you can use whatever words you want. Is it continuous development, lifelong learner, but always moving forward, is to me one of those foundational values.
Danielle Cobo: Now, do you believe that you've always been a motivated person? Is this something that you've been wired to always move forward? Or is there something more to it?
I think
Vilis Ozols: there is. tend to use a lot of analogies. So, when I first got into speaking and training, I used to do what was called TQM training, Total Quality Management. And one of the fathers of TQM, was a guy named Dr. W. Edwards Deming, and he was, this quality guru that went over to Japan after World War II and helped rebuild Japan.
And he's not as well known here in the U. S., but in Japan, he's revered as a public figure. He's largely seen as the foundation of their economic rise to success. and he has his 10 points, and he helped some of the big auto companies and things of that sort. But he had a rule that's kind of buried in some of his work called the 85 15 rule.
and what it basically said is that in any organization, when stuff isn't working, said most, 85 percent of the time,the question you should be asking is what is the issue? And only 15 percent of the time is the question who should be the issue. and what tends to happen in a business environment is we tend to focus on who is the so and so not doing what they're supposed to do.
You know, it's like that old situation, you know, manager walks up to an employee and taps him on the shoulder and says, how come you're not working? Employee turns around and says, didn't see you coming. You know, so it's, just all that, is it the people? And what I really believe when we start talking about motivating or when we start talking about goal setting is it really comes down to what you're doing, not are you motivated?
And I think were talking about, being a motivational speaker or, trying to motivate people. I really believe that it's the what that really helps people with their motivation. And it's not, are you genuinely motivated? that's that 15%. And so to answer your question, even if you've got that 15%, is that going to be enough if you don't have the skills?
and I think that's, really critical.
Danielle Cobo: this conversation is very much in line with the conversation that I had the other day. I have a friend and a friend and I were She messaged me and she said I'm really sorry I'm late to getting back to you, I've been burning the candle at both ends, and she's explaining everything that she's doing, and then she messages me back and then she goes, Well I realize that you're messaging me at midnight and you're up at 6am so clearly you're burning the candle at both ends.
And I thought about it for a second, and I haven't responded yet, but, I was thinking, I don't feel like I'm burning the candle at both ends, and it goes back to what we're talking about here, which is every decision that I'm making is in alignment with my values, I don't work for somebody.
Everything that I'm doing is for my own business and for the clients that I serve, and I have been working a lot of hours lately because I'm in the peak of my book launch, but it doesn't I feel that way because I truly love what I do. I am working more now than I did when I was in corporate, but it feels like one big hobby.
That's how passionate I am about it.
Vilis Ozols: Well, and what's really neat when I hear you telling your story is all the three things we talked about. Putting yourself in a position to win, moving forward, and maximum effort, all of those fit in. and I think the key there is passion. Is if you love what you do, if you can find something you love, it's, like that old saying, you know, do what you love and the money will follow.
and if you're doing what you love, you never really work another
Danielle Cobo: day in your life. Absolutely true. I remember there was a period in my point where I first started and it was coming from a scarcity mindset. I've got to make money and I was kind of making my decisions based off of that. When I truly let go of the money and started making my decisions based off of one core value, which is, how can I make impact?
That is my guiding light for any decision that I'm making and is based off of, will this make an impact, a positive impact on somebody's life? And sometimes it's a podcast where maybe they're not going to work with me directly, but this is a way of making an impact and serving people. Maybe it's through speaking, maybe it's through writing a book or coaching or leading a training, but ultimately comes down to that one word.
And when you have alignment on what you're, the decisions that you're making based off of one of your core values, You're happier. You don't feel as burned out because burnout is a result of having lack of passion on tasks that you're doing and you're doing it over and over again. this is really, like you said, in alignment with your values.
Yeah,
Vilis Ozols: you're obviously on your true path and it just shows it shows in your enthusiasm. and I think you said it really well, you want to have a benefit for. the recipient, whether it's a podcast viewer or whether it's an audience member a live presentation.
But I think you've hit on the secret and that is providing a benefit to that person.
Danielle Cobo: Well, thank you. now, okay, so let's dig into goals a little bit, because we've talked about motivation. We've talked about Where motivation, the source of motivation, where it comes from. But let's talk now about goals, because there is a stat out there, sometimes the number wavers depending on the source, but they say on average about 87 percent of people give up on their New Year's resolutions by the second week of February.
And that's actually strategically why my book is launching. February 21st is because I thought it'd be exactly the time that people are getting that needing that motivation to get back in on achieving their goals re evaluating them. So let's talk about how does motivation tie to goal setting?
Vilis Ozols: Oh, it's interesting. think it's a timely question and I love that you're timing it for when many New Year's resolutions fall through. had a fun experience that I've, tied to goal setting, that addresses some of the research, like there's many reasons why we fall flat on our goal setting, part of it is procrastination.
Part of it is fear of failure. Part of it is we feel unworthy. and there's, a lot of research, but there's no definitive one answer. And so. I think some of the important things when you talk about goal setting come down to, removing some of the barriers. And so share a quick experience.
lived in Colorado most of my life, 25 years. And when I first moved there, my neighbors, had suggested that we go, technical like mountain climbing, and without really thinking, I said, yes. And then, of course, you know, you get those, the heebie jeebies like, what the heck am I going to be doing on the edge of a mountain?
And so the very first thing I did, because there was such a barrier between doing this, and so for me, the secret was, and term I use is remove the veil. One of the reasons that we tend not to accomplish goals is we don't know what we need to do. and then there's, all this research that, particularly the scope of a project.
If for you to be successful, you have to do more than seven items. the human brain, the short term memory can handle, can conceptualize seven items. Once you go beyond that. It becomes this, cloud, this nebulous cloud, it creates real source of procrastination. And so, the first thing that I, highly recommend is just to remove that veil.
And that is do research, read a book, go on the web, YouTube is your friend there. YouTube will teach you anything out of the sky. And so what you're doing is you're removing that veil. And when there's a veil between you and your goal. The odds of you jumping on board are much lower, but once you start doing your research, and getting the information, it all becomes much less intimidating.
And so, I learned words like repelling and belaying and emergency rescue helicopters and all the really important stuff. but then, The day before we were supposed to go climbing, my friends take me out to a place just outside of Boulder, Colorado, called the monkey rocks.
And so we go technical climbing, but we're not. tied in with anything. So you're on a sheer cliff. and it was amazing how difficult it was, you know, you're hanging by your fingertips. And I remember at one point, you're learning your balance and you're against this sheer, sheer cliff. And I remember at one point, there were all these muscles that I didn't know I had.
And in my case, I didn't have them. And so I realized that I'm going to fall. And so then you just jump off because you're only this high off the ground. So you're on a cliff, but you're traversing side by side. So one of the things that I highly recommend when we apply that to our own goal setting is find your monkey rocks.
And that is you don't have to do everything all at once. Maybe it's. volunteering if there's something you want to do, or maybe it's, joining an organization or, having a mentor is getting some way to try and go full speed with what you want to do, but not laying it all out on the line.
and I'm sure, you know, you've had your own version of monkey rocks. There's associations, there's mentors, there's, asking for help. And one of the interesting things is, I think most high performers are not good at asking for help. I see that. In dealing with my NCAA athletes, and so we really try to build in that mentality of, you know, your coaching staff, your teammates.
Everyone's here to help you. And part of being an elite athlete is learning to ask for help. And so that's second step. And then the third piece of the whole climbing metaphor is, you know, the day comes and we do this climb and we were climbing just outside of Boulder, Colorado. There's a rock formation called the third flat irons.
And it's one of the most beautiful and exhilarating beginner climbs. And really was quite easy. It was like climbing a ladder. Handholds, footholds are always there. we're tied in. So safety was a big deal. But when you get to the very top of this third flat iron, instead of hiking down, most people don't realize this is that.
There's more injuries going down the mountain than there are going up. So what they do is they tie off a rope at the top of the, mountain. And there's about, there's an overhang. And so the hardest thing I ever had to do was you're standing on top of this cliff. You can see Denver 30 miles away.
You're that high up. And then you lower yourself off rappelling line down, you , 30 yards or whatever to the bottom. And it was the most difficult thing I've ever done. and so, I don't know if you can imagine, like, I don't know if you, picture what you would feel when you finally get to the bottom.
So you finally lean over, you're leaning over nothingness, you get to the bottom. What do you think you feel?
Danielle Cobo: Relief that I'm on solid ground.
Vilis Ozols: I know, that's what you would think, that's what I thought I would feel. I would say that what I felt was pure exhilaration and motivation. if I had been interviewed at that point in time.
I would have sounded like a puppy on, steroids. I'm going to do that again. I could cock on the world. I'm going to do anything. And it was just this intense, immense sense of accomplishment. And I guess if there's one thing that I would recommend when we talk about goal-setting and putting that into context, is transpose the feeling you would have had at the top.
The fear of letting go of the fear of counting on the rope, the fear of going down with how are you going to feel when it's all said and done? you know, like, what is the end result? Why are you doing it? It's tapping into your why? you know, I remember and I know many people have done this, but like.
Trying to go to school while you're working full time. That was one of the hardest things I've ever done. Oh,
Danielle Cobo: I worked two jobs while going to college. It was not fun. Exactly.
Vilis Ozols: Late nights and so many priorities. Things are screaming at you. And I remember as I'm going through all these late nights is just.
the thought that kind of carried me through was that thought of walking across the stage Mm-Hmm. With the, pomp and circumstance, playing in the background, da da. knowing that my kids and my wife are in the audience and they're gonna see me go across. and so, I think what we need are what I would call either like an emotional anchor.
what is it that's gonna carry you through the hard work? Because all the best laid plans still come down to hard work. And so replace that. Fear and trepidation with how are you going to feel at the end?
Danielle Cobo: when I was in school and I was thinking about graduating, I was,getting my bachelor's degree.
I had a day job and then I would go straight to my night job and all I wanted was that why, that why was. All I get to do once I graduate is just have one big job, , that's it, not two jobs. And school, it was as though I just got to focus on work and not everything else. It almost felt like I had a better balance in my life when I got to go to work.
So, and ironically, I didn't even walk at my graduation. My graduation was over Memorial Day weekend and I didn't wanna sit in 90 degree weather, in the heat, wearing a black, gown. I said, no, I'm gonna go to the river and go have some fun. .
Vilis Ozols: Oh. But yeah, I think it's, you know, the other thing is, you know, and there's so many different examples you could use, like just having those letters behind your name now, now you're a B.
A. or an M. B. A. or a, whatever, and that's, you know, you work hard, you put that maximum effort in, but it's something that stays with you for life.
Danielle Cobo: Absolutely, I work with a lot of sales representatives and a lot of times they're looking for a job and there are some people that have degrees and some people that don't have degrees and, I would never force someone to choose one direction over another.
You get to choose what works best for you. But what I will always say is, if you have a degree, it's going to open up more doors. It just will open up more doors because there are a lot of organizations specifically in medical sales that will only hire people if they have a degree and I worked for an organization that was one of them and I remember that there was somebody on my team that didn't have a degree and We had acquired the company, so she was grandfathered in, but she was never going to get promoted and it became very frustrating to her.
She felt very stuck in where she was at unless she went and got a degree. So it just opens up more doors. But when you talk about having that why, in my book, I give a framework on goal setting and it's called the Cobo framework, but it's very tied to the why. So the first step is what's your courageous goal?
What is something that is a big goal that you want to achieve? You're going to get out of your comfort zone. You're going to lean into that fear. You're going to lean into the unknown. What is that courageous goal? Second step is what are the objective steps that you're going to take to achieve that goal?
As you said, it's these little steps that do a ripple effect of, getting to the goal over time. So that could be, you want to get promoted. It could be Updating your resume, updating your LinkedIn profile. You want to achieve a particular sales goal. It could be re evaluating your territory. Where's your new business?
Where's your existing business? Where are some areas that you can grow? it could be just little things, reading a book every single week. For me, I spend an hour a day on personal development, whether it's listening to a podcast, reading a book, but I dedicate an hour a day, so I'm constantly learning. and then the next step is, B, which is benchmark.
How are you going to benchmark and monitor the progress of your goal? Because, A lot of times we'll look at a big lofty goal and a courageous goal and we'll say I don't know how I'm going to achieve that. But when you break it down into particular small little steps and you start to monitor your progress along the way, then you get to celebrate the progress and it becomes a lot more attainable.
And then the last one, and this is the most important, is the O, which is Opportunities. What opportunities are going to open up for you when you achieve that goal? So if one of the goals was to go back to school and get a degree because you know that's going to help advance your, what would the opportunity be?
It's going to advance your career. That's the why. And that's the COBO framework that I share in the book. In addition, it's supported by a couple other, frameworks that go into goal setting, but it's definitely one of the ones that I believe is, has helped me through the years and staying focused on what goals I've wanted to achieve.
Vilis Ozols: Well, it's obvious you've got some, you know, amazing foundations there. And I think anybody who would follow those steps, they're on the right track. So good for you for sharing all that.
Danielle Cobo: Thank you. Well, you've shared so many nuggets of wisdom today. don't even know where to begin because you've shared so much as valuable, but I would say what would be, if we were to wrap up our conversation today, what are three words of wisdom that you would share with our listeners?
Vilis Ozols: Wow. You know, I don't know if I'd narrow it down to three, but I'll, share kind of maybe my one last sports volleyball story. And so, I'm about six foot, three inches tall. So you wouldn't think of me as being a particularly short person, but when I played for Canada, I was the shortest player on the team.
And so the only way I would even see the court like get on the floor was, you know, when it was, 1313 and we needed an extra defensive play to win the point or to, win side out. you know, and so that was my role. and I remember the first time I ever had gone to a volleyball clinic, the guy that was teaching the clinic was on the national team.
He had played in the 76 Olympics, and I was kind of a brash young, athlete saying, well, I'm going to play in the Olympics. And he took it so seriously and he said, well, then you need to know the secret. And of course I'm thinking, well, yeah. And so he said, well, here's the secret. He says that your size, he says, you're going to have to become an amazing defensive specialist.
And he said, the secret is this, is that the only ball you can't get is the one you don't go after. And it made so much sense to me and it became who I was. So from that point on, I went after everything and I'd have bruises and cuts. And, you need a little bit of skills to go with the motivation, but I was one motivated athlete.
And I guess if I could, leave you and, the audience with one last point is to maybe carry a little bit of that volleyball player mentality with you. Is that the only goal you can't accomplish is the one you don't go after. we have an amazing ability as people to accomplish our goals once we set our sights on them and make it happen.
and I mean it sincerely when I say I wish you the, best of luck. Cause one of the foundations of all of my coaching was always this, and that is luck. Favors momentum. And so go after your goals. The momentum will follow and you'll get there.
Danielle Cobo: So what are you going after listeners? What's that ball that you're going to be going after today? What's your why? How is that aligned in helping you achieve your goals? Because if there's so much to take away from this episode, I think this is actually going to be an episode I'm going to listen to a couple of times, a couple of times throughout the year, because this is the one to listen to, to help us.
Be that elite in achieving our goals, no matter what time of year it is, we are not giving up. We are staying motivated. We are moving forward. We are going to be in alignment with our values and our why, and we are going to go after every single ball that is out there and we are going to think and play like a professional volleyball player.
Thanks for tuning in and until next week, be unstoppable.