In this episode, we welcome Jake Trembath, a dance teacher from Utah, who shares his journey from discovering dance as a social outlet to using it as a tool for psychological healing and brain rewiring. Jake explains how dance can help process emotions, improve self-love, and create a flow state that is beneficial for personal growth. He discusses the impact of dance on mental and physical health, highlighting its ability to rewire the brain, improve memory, and treat depression. The episode als...
Jun 02, 2025•50 min•Ep. 137
Wow, I had an MRI done on my back and I talk about my surprising results in this episode. I’ve had some previous back issues- a snowboarding injury and a mid back problem with my rib that developed during pregnancy. A couple times in the last few years that my back “went out” for a few days (last time was over a year ago.) I do not have chronic back pain, and I do not have to restrict my activity. But if I had pain and numbness and these same MRIs results, I could qualify for disability. MRI and...
Feb 09, 2025•15 min•Ep. 136
Today I have a special guest, a leader in the field of Mindbody medicine and President of the ATNS (Association for Treatment of Neuroplastic Symptoms, formerly PPDA), Dr David Clarke. Dr Clarke practiced Gastroenterology in Portland from 1984 to 2009, treating over 7000 patients whose symptoms were not explained by diagnostic testing. In this episode, Dr Clarke summarizes Pain relief Psychology. With research based methods teaching patients to take their focus off the symptom, shift attention t...
Nov 18, 2024•1 hr 3 min•Ep. 135
Fellow Physical Therapist, Jim Prussack, joins me today for an interesting interview about his experience moving from PT to pain reprocessing Coach. We discuss the principles of PRT (pain reprocessing therapy), and how we treat differently using a mind vs body based approach. Check out Jim at https://www.thepainpt.com/ >>> If you have not yet given my podcast a rating or review, PLEASE do that here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-unstoppable-body-and-minds-podcast/id149336054...
Oct 18, 2024•43 min•Ep. 134
This Meditation will help you find and process your emotions. Many of us have learned to subconsciously repress our emotions, to talk ourselves out of them or judge ourselves for having them. But we also know that what you resist persists. So sometimes the best way to “get rid of the emotion” is actually to lean into and embrace it. Emotions are just sensations, and can not hurt you as long as you don’t resist them. Allowing your emotions and learning to feel them safely will prevent them from b...
Aug 16, 2024•14 min•Ep. 133
Join me today to hear Hypnotist, Melissa Tiers, as we discuss integrative hypnosis and how it helps with chronic pain. Melissa has been training clinicians in the use of hypnosis for pain relief for over 25 years and her own chronic pain history was pivotal in the creation of her pain protocols. Melissa struggled with years of migraines and is now migraine-free through this approach (as long as she stays congruent! Listen for more details as to what that all means...) We discuss the unconscious ...
Aug 06, 2024•1 hr•Ep. 132
Today I interviewed Renee Kammer, who has an amazing healing story. From 30 years of chronic pain and 5 years being bed bound, to now hiking, biking, and gardening. Renee had several diagnoses, including: Stiff person’s syndrome, Ulcerative colitis, Rheumatoid arthritis, Ankylosing spondylitis, Fibromyalgia, Headaches, Migraines, Back pain, Hip pain, Anxiety, Depression, Pelvic pain/ IC, Chronic fatigue, Chest pain and High blood pressure. Renee joined Alignment Academy and went through all of t...
May 30, 2024•1 hr 5 min•Ep. 131
This episode includes a 6 minute technique you can do to deactivate your triggers. My coach who studies hypnotherapy taught me this somatic hack to decrease the intense feelings of a trigger. It is not to ignore the trigger or brush it under a rug, but to make it more emotionally manageable so it can be processed and let go. Think of something that triggers you, and try the process along with me in this episode. Best if you can sit or lay down with your eyes closed. If you are a woman over age 3...
May 07, 2024•11 min•Ep. 130
This episode is a clip from an Alignment Academy group coaching call. Listen in to see how I apply somatic tools in a real life situation to help Carrie feel calmer and even excited about a situation that caused anxiety. If you are interested in a supportive coaching community to help accelerate your progress, check out Alignment Academy here: https://www.bodyandmindlifecoach.com/somatic-coaching Transcript- Automatically Generated: This is Betsy Jensen, and you are listening to Unstoppable Body...
Apr 30, 2024•28 min•Ep. 129
In this episode, I interview Tai Kuncio. She is a fellow moderator in the "Tell Me About Your Pain" Facebook Group. ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/695823314550483 ) Tai had various pains starting in childhood, which they attributed to being athletic. But she struggled the most with chronic knee pain. At one point after knee surgery, she was doing physical therapy 4 to 5 hours per day and still not getting better. It wasn’t her weakness or muscle dysfunction, but her fear that was driving her ...
Apr 17, 2024•50 min•Ep. 128
This week I share an interview with my client, Lucas. He struggled with several years of anxiety that was getting worse and more debilitating with time. At times it was even difficult for him to go to the store or to lunch with a friend without worrying, "what if I get an anxiety attack?" After 3 months of somatic coaching with me, Lucas felt like he had found the missing piece. He had already tried meditation, breathing, yoga, acupuncture- all the "right" things to decrease the anxiety in his l...
Apr 01, 2024•45 min•Ep. 127
In this episode, I interview 3 women with amazing healing stories. We all met as Moderators for the "Tell Me About Your Pain" Facebook group created by Alan Gordon. Kristina has a list of symptoms that were healed with the mind-body approach. Including anxiety, eating disorders, depression, hypothyoroidism, adrenal fatigue, POTS, leaky gut, histamine intolerance, insomnia, adrenal insufficiency, and hashimotos. Stacey suffered for 18 years with chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, IBS, Lyme disease, i...
Mar 08, 2024•1 hr 4 min•Ep. 126
This Episode is what Dr Schubiner calls "The Six F's" in his book "Unlearn Your Pain" These are natural reactions to pain, but they also cause the brain to amplify the pain or symptoms. Here are the 6 F's, listen for more info: "Fear of the pain or other symptom: We fear the sensation of it as it can be so severe and unpleasant; we worry about whether it will go away and when or when it will return; we spend a lot of time wishing it will go away Focus on the pain or other symptom: We pay a lot o...
Feb 13, 2024•14 min•Ep. 125
In this episode I put together the 10 biggest myths I've seen around pain (especially chronic pain). Lots of new pain research is coming out, so if you think you know about pain (like I did as a Physical Therapist), there may be some new findings that surprise you. Here are the 10 biggest myths about pain, and be sure to listen for more explanation on each of them: 1-pain equals tissue damage 2-If I have pain or symptoms after exercise or food, it means that exercise or food is what caused my pa...
Feb 05, 2024•30 min•Ep. 124
Anxiety is a symptom that goes hand in hand with chronic pain and disease. In this episode I talk about what anxiety is, how it affects the body, why it's so common, and how to unlearn it! I give an example from my own life, and some techniques you can use to teach your brain to produce anxiety less and less. If you are looking to support your growth in a loving, fun and nurturing community, check out Alignment Oasis and the specials I have going on now: https://www.bodyandmindlifecoach.com/alig...
Jan 15, 2024•24 min•Ep. 123
Pain when things are good is a phenomenon I see when people are unlearning pain and learning to regulate their nervous systems. When you're used to being in high alert, then letting your guard down and feeling safe can actually seem dangerous. We can expand our ability to stay in the "rest and repair state" longer, but some people have learned resting is "lazy" or having fun is "selfish". Watch for this in yourself- if your symptoms come in a time of more calm or peace, don't worry! This is actu...
Dec 15, 2023•11 min•Ep. 122
Anxiety may be a familiar state for you - whether you have chronic pain or not. Anxiety is the nervous system state of "Flight". We are often not running from a tiger, but we are running to do more, scan for danger, and fix problems. Anxiety is uncomfortable in the body, and prompts action- doing or thinking constantly to feel better. The solution to unlearning anxiety and teaching the brain not to go into anxious habits is to go INTO the sensation instead of trying to avoid it. This tree medita...
Oct 28, 2023•12 min•Ep. 121
Did you know play and fun may be the missing piece to your healing? Our society tells us we must work hard to get what we want, and we may discredit things that seem too easy. But there are many scientific benefits of play. We can learn faster (It takes only 10-40 repetitions in play, vs 400 repetitions). Play, happiness or joy release endorphins (pain relieving qualities). Play improves brain function, flexible thinking, improves memory and stimulates growth of the cerebral cortex. Play is rest...
Oct 18, 2023•13 min•Ep. 120
One habit that leads to the perpetuation of chronic pain is being in high alert. Do you often go to the worst case scenario? Do you habitually worry? When you don't have pain are you thinking about when the pain may return? These are signs you are living in high alert, and making your pain worse. When the brain is in a high alert, fear based state, then it can percieve normal signals in the body as dangerous and produce pain. High alert can be reinforced by technology, facing uncertainty, or fee...
Oct 01, 2023•12 min•Ep. 119
New pain science teaches something different than what I learned in Physical Therapy school 20 years ago. Pain is not directly related to the amount of injury present in the body. Pain does not indicate tissue damage, but rather pain is a danger signal. Research into chronic pain shows the brain actually processes it differently once it’s lasted past 3-6 months. There are 44 areas of the brain associated with chronic pain, and the main one is the center of learning and memory. Just as pain can b...
Sep 21, 2023•15 min•Ep. 118
This episode was part of a video I created to "Meet the Moderator" in the Tell Me About Your Pain Facebook Group. They had me answer some questions about myself and my healing journey, and I wanted to share that with you here. If you are want to spend some time learning with me, while you get to know yourself and how to rewire your symptoms, be sure and join my Virtual Retreat September 2 and 3, 2023. It will be an all day event both days- going through all of the modules and workbooks that I cr...
Aug 12, 2023•17 min•Ep. 117
I'm excited to share this episode with a special guest- Life Coach and Host of "The Masterful Coach Podcast", Molly Claire When she agreed to be on my podcast, I had no idea how much our work has in common. Molly helps women in coaching, motherhood and family life become more self connected and empowered. Like this work, she helps her clients reach a state of greater well being. I didn't even know that Molly had Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, which brought her to realize she needed to change some thi...
Jun 19, 2023•28 min•Ep. 116
I love this interview with one of my favorite people, Shelby Hansen. She shares her healing journey including overcoming decades of hip pain to run a pain-free triathalon. Shelby is a coach for moms with Chronic Fatigue, and she shares with us some energy hacks that anyone can use to feel better in life. You can find Shelby on her website https://shelbykhansen.com/ And download her top 3 Energy Tips here: https://view.flodesk.com/pages/63dc400c8e06d4dae9492ea0 For weekly calls and community supp...
Jun 04, 2023•56 min•Ep. 115
Did you know your personality traits are a predictor for whether you will have chronic pain or mindbody symptoms? Traits like perfectionism, people pleasing, and wanting to be liked keep the nervous system in dysregulated states and wreak havoc on the body. For me, my personality traits were the biggest thing keeping me dysregulated and in a state of dis-ease before I found this work. Listen to find out more! For weekly calls and community support integrating this work into your life, check out ...
May 05, 2023•13 min•Ep. 114
In this episode I tell you a real life story of my back pain and a flare I had this weekend. Since chronic pain has more to do with fear and nervous system dysregulation, I decided skiing sounded like a nice thing to do when my back pain was uncomfortable. Listen for how this counterintuitive approach helped me through the pain with less resistance and more curiosity. Click here for more information on somatic coaching & Alignment Academy: https://www.bodyandmindlifecoach.com/somatic-coachin...
Apr 05, 2023•21 min•Ep. 113
In this episode I talk all about the nervous system state of freeze. This is the nervous system state of shutdown when the system detects a mortal threat. The nervous system chooses this state as the best option for your survival, so it is not a conscious choice. Here is an example of what you may feel in freeze: Feeling space, foggy, unable to think clearly, forgetting details, disoriented, forgetting where you’re going, losing track of time, continual exhaustion, numb, no energy, feeling overw...
Mar 26, 2023•11 min•Ep. 112
In this episode, I talk about one of my favorite things to teach- having more rest, pleasure and fun in your life. Most people with chronic pain are devoted, high achieving, hard working, people pleasing givers who have a hard time taking time for themselves. But this concept is research based, and actually shows that when your pain or emotions are high the best thing to do is to distract rather than try to work through it and process. We often think we should be working on healing all of the ti...
Mar 21, 2023•9 min•Ep. 111
In this episode I define trauma in nervous system terms, so you can have a more compassionate view about the survival states and why you go into them. Your nervous system is always trying to keep you safe and can get stuck in survival states from all different types of trauma. All of us have had things that are more than our nervous system can handle, but some have not been able to process it because they have not had a compassionate witness. Trauma can be processed and there can actually be mor...
Mar 15, 2023•18 min•Ep. 110
Today I talk all about somatic coaching- what it is, what it looks like, and who it can help. Somatic means body, so somatic coaching uses perceptions and sensations and attention to the body in order to enhance the coaching experience. Most therapy and coaching just involves talking, and using our conscious mind. But about 95% of our thoughts are subconscious, so many of our behaviors and nervous system responses are not in our conscious awareness. Through somatic coaching (involving the body v...
Feb 02, 2023•18 min•Ep. 109
In this episode I take you through a 5 minute somatic tracking meditation to calm your nervous system, and rewire your brain to create less pain! Somatic tracking is the process of going into the sensations in the body and describing them neutrally. This gives some space between the stimulus (sensation) and the typical response (some form of fear that leads to more pain). When we can describe the sensations with different words, imagine the color or shape or texture, and just watching what is th...
Jan 05, 2023•11 min•Ep. 108
