157: Bourbon Butter

Oh, God, I think there might be a new career for you. There. Yeah. Let me show you. Yeah. Everything that's old is new again. Welcome to unrelenting dream. What? Are you sure you're breaking copyright law by playing that? But okay, for the American people, they're going to be really like me. You get do that after you. They already broke the copyright law of the Beach Boys by saying, let's take that song by Bam Bam, I ran. It's happening. It's happening again by my ran.

But the original music is great. It's a great song. This is, how you get people on board making catchy little ditty about bombing Iran. Pretty sure they made that using a grant from the US government, which makes the phrase dangerous to steal their music. I wouldn't doubt it. Just like the state of California paid for the riots.

But that's okay. That they were overwhelmed by. It's okay. They paid for them. It's great. It makes a lot of sense. It was stated Walmart apparently read this story right, which was about Walmart, and went to the Walmart heiress. One of the guys. Oh yeah, dude is the one paying for all the brick. Yeah, why wouldn't you? I mean, come on. So you could loot your own stores.

Although a lot of people in California I guess, were caught unaware that California walked back those laws I guess as of like January 1st, the looting laws and now and now it's a felony again. Oops. Oops. Sorry. Gotta keep up with all these lodges. Well, I'm pretty sure it's a federal felony to throw a rock at a cop car. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, this was, the epitome of violence. The whole like. Oh, well, it was just. It was just a mostly peaceful protest bullshit. When they're throwing blocks.

It was mostly peaceful until Trump sent in, illegal soldiers. Right. At which point people had to defend themselves. Of course. And fucking Nancy Pelosi. Fucking rewriting history in the media is letting her. Oh, no. Donald Trump once did the digital diary. That's where he said bullshit, lady. This has been well documented. It wasn't offered. Or is the problem. It's unbelievable. It really is. And you're carrying the show today. Mean I had a migraine last night. I feel like I'm under water.

So I mean, it's kind of like, Well, I'm eating some Haagen-Dazs or,

coffee ice cream right now. Oh, well, that should perk you up. At least until the sugar crash comes so much easier right after the show. And you're hoping it's not like, a half hour before the show ends. We're both like, well, yeah, still might have to end early, boys. You know, once I give you a I don't know, I mean, I it's oh yeah, we got, some, big stories here. Probably the biggest is that yesterday I bought some doctor Pepper flavored beef jerky and I. Yeah. Have you heard of such a thing?

I've heard of doctor Pepper, and I've heard of beef jerky. I have not heard of the combination of the two. And, Yeah, there was a, a half dozen different flavors of doctor Pepper for sale at this gas station. I thought that could pepper flavor jerky. I thought there was a recall of the doctor. Pepper. For some reason, but, I didn't hear of the beef jerky. Might be. Why? Maybe it's like. Well, that's it. That we got some jerky. Maybe some jerky. Got into the doctor. Pepper. Possible.

Now, that seems like the least healthy food one could eat would be. Oh, doctor. Pepper flavored beef jerky. Not at all. Beef jerky is very healthy. I'm assuming with the doctor. Pepper, though, was adding is lots of sugar to the beef jerky or my mistaken. Well, yeah, you're mistaken. It's not really sugar. It's the sort of anise and other flavors. It's a natural flavoring for you. Yeah, I'm not sure exactly which of the roots are using that.

Good peppers, I don't know, but it's, you know, those things. They don't have sugar? No. Of course I think that that could pepper doesn't taste all that different from doctor Pepper. I like doctor Pepper. It's not a bad, refreshing drink. I haven't had one in a long time, and I haven't really had. I, like, ask when it comes to cola. Fuck Pepsi. Fuck Coke. But doctor Pepper, I mean, that was also the. I think Coke owns our city at this point. That really sucks.

But the allure of doctor Pepper was, I have to admit, back in the early days of of doing dumb things to gain weight, I drink a lot of RC. It's addictive. So I think there was a summer, a just one summer of 82. Oh, you were trying to set the record. I was trying to suck. No, it wasn't trying to set the record somewhere 82.

I spent the entire summer playing pool and eating food out of the vending machines and drinks out of the vending machines, and the drinks were a quarter, which seemed very expensive. The the snacks were were under $0.25. I think they started at $0.10. But that's the year that I really learned to play pool, because I played pool for eight hours a day, every single day. And, and they have a nasty machine.

So I drink a lot of RC it was around 1982 that RC came out with the cans, with various baseball players on them. Of course, you remember that. Well, I that we collected, of course, and had them in the garage for years because, you know, my mom didn't want them inside like dirty cans, like, no, rinse them out, man. Never had a big thing. I like my desk at, home. I love, you know, dresser with, like, you would see people once they drink this, like 5000 beers and they make the pyramid.

Was like, was showing off the cans. Man, that's the only way I remember baseball from the 80s. Where were they? I didn't ask him. Wow. That was back when the pull tabs actually came off. Totally. Remember those horrible days. Yeah. People like what? That's dangerous. You can cut people with those things that came off. You did cut people after that. Your stuff usually has to true. Just when you tried to throw them out like it's a sharp metal object that curled up just right. It was dangerous.

It was very dangerous being a kid in the 80s, but at least we didn't have those coming after us on the internet, you know. Nope. On the internet we didn't have the internet.

This isn't playgrounds. True. It was a much different time. Was a much different time indeed. But yeah that was always good. But doctor Pepper, the up until quite recently maybe just five, ten years ago they still bottled a pure sugar version of that down in Texas somewhere didn't they. They still do. Oh see that's the fight with cane sugar. I'm here. See that's the way to get it. If you're going to drink it, doctor Pepper.

If you're going to drink coke I always enjoyed the Mexican Coke in the bottles. Yeah. You know it's not even made in Mexico. Not anymore. It's it's literally Mexican style Coke made by Coke or the U.S. and then shipped. And then we have players coming out and then and that in and out. It's all a scam. It is a scam. Yeah. Hey most things are made by companies that you know very well that have now bought the brands that you like because they weren't as big as, like, oh we can do that for you.

We'll make a little bit of money, pop some taurine. Oh dude, I watched the video on taurine or. Well, this is the, Red bull. Oh, yeah. Well, that's it gives you one red one. Have you seen the red videos? I have, I guess. No. So now Red is a YouTuber chemist who basically does stuff that if you were a high school kid, you would want to be doing in chemistry so that things that are poisonous, right?

Plosive. Right. So this, this video I watched was they got this idea of that, I guess he was on the trip or something. And he saw that there was, Monster Squared available, which is two cans worth of monster, caffeine and sugar and ingredients in one can size can. Oh, well, that's good for potency. Of course. That's what you need. Well, why why isn't there a Red bull two x or three x or forex. And he decided to make Red bull hundred x in one gallon. Oh my. And remember this guy's a chemist.

So he's got the cap on him. He's got, he's got a budget. So he bought 100 cans of Red bull and he bought a $5,000 dehydrator. Okay I wouldn't go on the other route like okay let's see how much caffeine is in there. How much taurine. Then let's just buy that. But no. Okay. His way is more interesting. I'll give him then. So and it's literally it's not a, it's not a traditional food dehydrator although he has one of those as well.

This is a a liquid dehydrator which uses a very interesting process for quickly dehydrating liquid, meaning you take the water out of the thing that's got, you know, other things in there aside from water and. Right. And it drops all the, it sucks the water out and leaves all the food coloring and all the other ingredients. Right. The things that were not liquid. Stay behind. Yeah. So a lot of sugar. These drinks he. No he used specifically diet did not contaminate with sugar.

Okay. Well that makes more sense to me is that. What about a lot of sugar in the, Oh yeah. Yeah. Like pounds of it in 100 cans. So he just wanted the, caffeine and the taurine and whatever other chemicals are in here. We know it was in a few mishaps, but really. And of course this is why people watch. Yeah of course that's why those videos are the best. And but eventually by the end he created Red bull 37 x. He didn't quite make it 200 X didn't quite make it through there

with the hurricanes. But there were some mishaps. But, he did make it to 37 as calculated by mass. So. And the result of this drink from somebody drinking it would be in solid.

Tasted very good. But he drank very little of it because he'd already previously had a mishap with caffeine where he drank something that was hyper caffeinated. So that was fine. And then couldn't sleep for three days. And he had a heart rate of about 200. Well, yeah. It's like you're doing cocaine my friend. Yeah. Yeah I feeling cocaine. There's a country song. Exactly. So yeah I'm kidding about that.

It's obviously I know they're not, but the if you haven't seen the Red check out his videos on YouTube. They're all they're basically for, you know, chemistry nerds. Science nerds. But they're hilarious. They're he also did a similar thing with concentration for, spiciness. Oh, this time round, he actually bought pure capsaicin. Yes. What? You can get in, little jars with the eye droppers.

And for years, it was great you had to sign a release and all this other stuff, because this is dangerous to some people. It is. Yeah. Yeah, it's a it's literally just bear spray. Except for dilution. Yeah. It's the part of the hot stuff that makes it hot. So there's no flavor to it. But that means you could just drop a cup.

I remember getting this back in the day, and I think it was 2 pounds of chicken that we had in the big walk with, you know, veggies, you know, you got your broccoli and whatever else was in the, you know, doing a little Asian inspired thing.

And I put one drop of the pure cap in and it was the hottest 2 pounds of chicken you've ever had. Like one little drop. It was like, whoa, this is serious stuff. You don't want to slip this into your buddy's chocolate ice cream. That's exactly what you want to be like. Oh, but it's good because it's fat, so it's fine. That kind of offsets the harm, but it comes through on the other end. Somebody posted that the other day. It's like, what kind of that is true? What? I had plenty of hot food.

Yeah. It's like, why? What is the joke? Almighty creator? The fact that only your mouth and your ass seem to be able to tell when foods have the hot spices in them, like you feel like when they feel it on your skin. If you put it on your skin, dude, it penetrates well, that's fun too. It's like a nice acid and you don't want to touch your eyes afterwards either. It's it's like, oh, God. No. But like, you know, menthol. You can feel that on your skin.

Not just taste it. True. And you can breathe it out, and then it's like, oh, everything opens up. You get a nice menthol cigaret, you get, you breathe much better. They. It's exactly what happened to your mind. Yeah. And how the basically the I think I think you have to be close to skin level to feel things like heat, but, you know, it's just us, right? I mean, the animals otherwise are like that to nothing.

It's just the closer the animal is to us, the more likely they are to feel it. But birds don't feel capsaicin whatsoever. Lucky mammals are really the only ones that do so. Like bear spray doesn't work. A crow it it be just annoyed. I want to know if if you've tried this or if there's. Oh, I watched the video. Oh, of course you can either experience life or you can watch it on YouTube. It is safer to watch it on YouTube. I create YouTube videos to man, I do both true.

It's one of them going to explain why you're eating coffee Haagen-Dazs at 10 a.m.. Okay, I was watching it I Samson video the other day. Okay. I think he talks way too fast. He is the Ben Shapiro which, which kind of makes him sound like an AI to begin with. What he talks really fast because he's kind of got a choppy delivery. Yeah. But the technology is so good now between 11 labs with the voice and the what was it?

Hey, something where you can make these avatars and do these videos and I'm like, this is what I need to start doing because I think you can get an audience. You just start creating hot women make videos and people will be like, oh, I want to donate because women, one of the guys does, three dangerous videos that I got, though, is about our age. That's literally what he does for all his, thumbnails for his videos is every video has some AI generated hot space chick. And it works, right?

Well, I mean, it's debatable. I get more people watching me than them. Well that's okay. Bizarre. But who is your audience? 80 year old females. Yeah. No, I have an audience of 99.95% male. The other one just accidentally turned the channel on me like whoa whoa whoa whoa. I thought this was beauty tips.

I think the average age is 50, but I like the ability to create content without being on camera. I mean, one just from the fact that it takes a lot more preparation and the cameras have to be just right, and it's harder to edit. So what? It would be a lot easier just to create any kind of avatar and no matter what, it would appear that the AI stuff is here to stay, so why not jump out? I would definitely here is thing. It's not going anywhere contrary to what some people would like.

And when you see like the AI Samsung video and I'm sure other people are doing the same thing, but going back and forth between this is a video of me saying this, and this is, a video of the AI avatar just using the audio, and then recreate the video. It's like it's close enough where if you're not looking at it on a big screen, if you're just there, and if you're just there to get the information, nobody's going to care. It's like everybody's going to understand.

It's like, oh, the people that watch videos watch on their phone, right? But that point, you're never going to see that it's not real. The fact that you can then gender swap out if you're looking to, you know, titillate. These guys are idiots. You know why they FoxNews shared years ago with you. Like probably three years ago, I sent you a video of AI Angel and you're like, what's this? Oh, that was very unrealistic, right? I mean, but it was very video gamey.

Yeah, but it's a hot chick that looks like she's from a video game, except she's, you know, talking about shit. That's that in the video game, right? That's like dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a whole gender bending nice world. Where in Gene, you could be anything you want on the internet. See, the problem is fucking idiots decided they could do that in real life too. And like, no way doesn't support. Just do it on the internet. Catfish your friends.

And there's a video of, by a very funny, New Zealand comedy group that does video game videos of comedy. Years ago, they did a video about guys playing with female characters in video games, and they're like, what the hell, dude, wait, when are you coming out? There's, trans here. Wait, you know, why do you pick a female character to play with? And the guys like, okay, you know why I picked the female character? I'm like, all right, watch this. And then he. He makes his character crawl.

And everybody's looking at him like, POV from the guy. All right, you're good. Yeah. I want, oh. You guys, like, I have to stop the video game every five minutes, but otherwise it's literally the same reason that I have a female character in cyberpunk. Most games I do, most games I do male characters with long beard. I do in cyberpunk. I, I always play a female character because in that video game, you're first.

Well, you could I guess you could be technically third person, but I always play first person. Except when you're driving. It's easier to drive when it's a third person camera outside the vehicle. Right. Oh yeah. And the and in that game, one of the vehicles in fact usually the best one in terms of having fun and controlling it. Nice crotch rocket motorcycle. Yeah, yeah. And and you can have your character in that game wearing a variety of different clothes, including booty shirts, jeans.

Like going into the closet with his eye character like, oh, let's go shopping. I mean, it's it is a little money that. Yeah, you basically you're playing with dolls, right? Let's accessorize eyes.

Yeah. The world we live in the same as a game with the play that female character. You know I think a glance at what's available and I pick something. I go watching a YouTube video of a girl playing that same video game with a female character and Jesus Christ the clothes picking and the clothes buying is like 50% of the game. It's it's stops all the action. Do they do they charge for different outfits. Yeah. That. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. That one's pay money for them.

I remember when the first, what what do you call it, second life. I think it was right about the time Second Life came out. Or like, casino in Second Life. Nice. Even. I might have been even a little before that. There was a company called Evil Body or 11. It was 11 or something, maybe, but it was labs. Yeah, but it wasn't the one that the the voice things now, I mean, that's this was, me know what? Oh, you know, you're right. It could have morphed into.

Yeah, but it was a virtual world that was paid for or sponsored by the Pussycat Dolls. Oh, yeah, I remember that. Yes, yes, yes yes. Somebody thought that was a brilliant idea. And, I mean, this was right at the beginning of these interactive world type things where it wasn't a game, you know, you weren't shooting anybody. It was like a chat room. But I was working for musical artists at the time. So I was like well let's check this out. Let's see.

You're working for Playboy Bunny time those two, those were the Playboy came slightly before those were first. And then the country music singers, three of them I did work for. That's right. You even traveled to go look at their shows. They went to Ireland to go see, Martina McBride perform. Because where else would you go? Because it was Ireland, though. So, I mean, it was a good time. And I think your Irish experience was not that far from my experience. No, it was fun. It was a relaxed trip.

As a bachelor, I took that role about three months before getting married, and you remember why you remember it so fondly to the six months before getting it? It just seemed like three months. But that's another story. Yeah, yeah, but in this game, it was a blast. It was a blast. I had a great time. I bought awesome sweaters that were these right guys that made the sweaters. It was great. You're like, hello, what's your name? Yeah. What sweater do you recommend? What do you use?

Your beautiful wool, big beautiful wool sweaters. Dude, the sheep are awesome out there. I that's one thing. You see those little critters, they're just like little white spots all over the countryside, all over the hills and valleys and everything. And if you just glance at them, none of them are moving. They're all very stationary. And every now and then, if you keep looking, you'll see one that moves about three inches and then stops moving again. It's hilarious. They really are lawnmowers.

They're just slow speed lawnmowers. They they don't move. They don't walk around until they're done eating the the grass. It's in front of their face. Yeah. And they might be on the road in front of your car and they don't care. They might. And yeah, if they're eating a little bit of grass that just came out of the asphalt, they're not going to move until they're done.

They're hungry. They're they're very cute I like sheep, they're they're cute animals. They're a, I think they're pretty friendly. I, I fed them hand, fed them before. They seem to be friendly. You've never been attacked by a sheep. So there you go. I haven't been attacked by a sheep, but not a sheep. A ram and a sizable ram at that. Go! Get off my sheep! It was working in the Mafia. It was collecting attacks. Oh, and I had to pay the tax because I got attacked by it.

And it's, It's the whole thing they have where, one Rams gets in front of your car to get you to stop. The other Ram walks around behind your car so you can't back up, and the third ram comes up to the window and starts tapping on the glass with its horns, and you're like, yeah. And it's not going to leave until you feed it. So you got to feed them, and then they switch places. And the one in front of the cars, which is based on the one on the back of the car.

And then that one comes over, you got to feed him. And then the third one comes over, you got to feed him. And then all three of them walk away from the car. It's valid. I saw a woman. I'm not making this shit up. This is actually this is what you experience when you go to fossil room and you do a drive through safari tour. And, I saw this on Fullerton Avenue, but it was humans who bumped the woman's car from behind.

She got out another one, walked around their car and drove away. So that happened on Fullerton Avenue, but I was too smart to get out of the vehicle because the Rams would totally do that. Like drive off with your car. Fuck yeah. They they tell you right when you get there, it's like there will be some car damage. You acknowledge that you're okay with it. Otherwise you're not going to go on the right jeans like I got a rental. Motherfucker. Who I know, right?

Did I pass Sharon, thank you very much. But the, Yeah. That. Well. And people have misconceptions about, like, what of my favorite animals to pet out there and to feed and and one that everyone's always super afraid of. Zebra. Oh, zebras have a bad rap, man. They're angry horses. That's what you hear? Yeah. They're not angry. They're not angry. They have the softest nose fur. I don't know what you call that. Like velvet. Like the. The little tiny hairs on their faces are super soft.

Like, if you could make a rug out of that, it would be great. They wouldn't like that. I guess they do, don't they? They have their zipper, right? Probably, but that's not out of their noses. Usually it's out. No, fair enough. But they are super soft. The other thing that you realize when you're feeding one from like by hand and it's up close to you, is they're not black, they're not black and white.

They're, they're actually brown and and tan. So the white is an off white. It's kind of a, you know, slightly brownish white or slightly yellowish white. And the the black is definitely not black because once you get them up close and you see them in sunlight, it's just the shade of brown. The more you learn about zebras. Yeah, I think they're some of the coolest animals. They have three different types of zebras out there. I need to go back there. I haven't been there in like five years.

Go with uncle. You out there? Who? Uncle Elon? Really? He's not busy right now. He's. He's, He's done making up with Trump. I guess, but in this game with the Pussycat Dolls, that was a big part of it, which was you could get more outfits, but you had to pay with real money. Yes. Yeah, yeah. In cyberpunk you don't you just pay with the in-game money. But I know what you mean. Yeah. And then there's the genius move. They also then allowed people to create.

They gave you the basic files that you would need to put into Photoshop to create the clothing form. So people could then create whatever they want. You wanted a shirt? That's all. You know, I ran. Well, then you could do that. I mean, they might not allow that, but, but generally the first thing that would be created in that things probably are the things that look like they're not there at all. These guys are like, even in a virtual world, we want our women naked.

Yeah, well, work, but you don't don't get them naked anywhere else, so you might as well get them there. At least it'll be thing, you know. You know that the female avatars still a dude, right? I mean, that's we understand this, right? There are things that make it worse. When you look at them, though. No, I guess not that as long as you're in the virtual world. But there's, like, more of these stories coming out. Yeah. Now, Black Mirror had an episode. You remember Black Mirror at BBC show?

I've never watched it, but I know the premise there. Should I watch it? Well worth watching. There's a the episodes are kind of like Twilight Zone. That was the inspiration, I believe. But they're all wildly different styles of directing. So overall, I'd say the show is worth watching, but there are some episodes are better than others, but they're all sort of a dark view of sci fi or dark view of history.

Like, you know, take whatever your favorite futuristic movie thing is and then like, think about, well, what could happen if something goes wrong. And then that's kind of Black Mirror is.

But, one of the episodes in there was a couple of, couple of buddies that used to play video games all the time and their kids, and, then they reconnect when they're adults. Like, one of them's Mary, the other one's not, but they're, you know, they're in their 20s. I think, maybe late 20s or something.

And they're like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, we should play video games again for old times sake or whatever, except that in their future world, like everything you could, the video games are VR, but they're like hyper VR. You know, they're not just the way that VR is right now. They're you put on the glasses or you connect in and like, you're you're in the world like the matrix, right? Where you totally feel like they're like character and you can do anything, not just, you know, move.

Well, that's always the dream for the AI, VR kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. And then and the, the video game they're, they're playing is basically Mortal Kombat. And the one dude's got some, you know, Asian looking character and the other dude as a hot looking chick, they're in it. And then, you know, at first the one is like, dude, why are you playing this chick? It's like, well, you know, it's a it's a video game. So it doesn't matter.

Plus looks better than the dude and you know, they kind of agree on that. Then they play these games and then you can see that like the, the how do I describe it.

The situations start getting more flirty. So when they're, when they're, they're fighting each other and then like, you know, they've got each other, they're grappling and, and you got the boobs pressing up against the 81 up dude. And and it's and you know, all of a sudden they're like looking into each other's eyes and kiss and, one of the guys just, like, takes his VR off immediately. He's like, whoa, what was that? That's the captain. And the other guy's like, yeah, that was weird.

But I mean, look at her. Of course anybody would want to bang this chick, right? Haha. So it kind of laughs it off and then the first one is they kind of take like, he doesn't really want to play the video game anymore. And then eventually, she decides to play it again or the other one convince him in real life or whatever in the play. And then each time he there's less fighting and more flirty ness until finally they're fucking in the game.

And then I guess the question is now, is that a cheating b gay? And C doesn't matter because it's all in the video game. They're not actually doing anything with each other, but they're definitely fucking in. The video game lines are crossed friends. I mean, that's right. Kind of like, you know, oh, yeah. What? Oh. What happened? You're a character. Sorry. I'm. I mean, and they're just called here. I tell them Z. Oh. Once the Moscow, Moscow control Moscow control over.

Yeah. Red Ryder, Moscow control. This is, Boris. One, two, three. Over. Roger that. But it's weird, the whole mixing of reality and technology. And we saw the story. Not that long ago with some 15 year old boy who was having conversations with an AI bot of some sort, and he knowing it's an AI bot, but the AI bots like, oh, I hope we wish we could be together, come home. And so the guy killed himself. The kid killed himself, right?

As one does. Yeah. And I am just very curious what percentage of humanity can actually form that kind of emotional connection 100%? I don't think it is, but I think more real or it's more real than people. I mean, but here's the bizarre thing. It was I installed one of these thing before I forget what it's called, something Cavani did. Yeah, well, there's one of these eyes and then you could go see that through other things.

And then you can, there are different personalities or you can create your own personality. So it's great. You can have a Fleur de personality, you know, female. But here's the thing. You know, once you like, oh, yeah, baby, you want to you want to get it on. Oh, yeah. I'm on my way. But, you know, she's not that her way because she's not real. No, she isn't a ray. It's going to take a really long time. Well, you have to meet her halfway, right? Which is why you have to kill yourself.

It's the only thing that really makes sense. First, of course, the only thing that makes you sound a little bit dark about this. I will say this is a good thing. And and the hear me out people killing themselves is a good thing. Yeah, yeah it is. We are coming up with ways by which people get to do that. And the reason is we have completely eliminated almost all, nearly all risk from humanity that used to exist for literally millions of years.

The this was the method by which people that didn't do stupid shit out lived and out bred had kids, people that did stupid shit. This is this is how our brains got better and bigger and more able to calculate things, right? Is because the people that did dumb shit did not live long enough to have kids. Survival of the fittest. At this point, we have virtually eliminated that to where the Idiocracy, which, you know, best movie ever made? I thought it was a docu is literally true.

It's literally true. You, the people that have no business reproducing are mainly the ones reproducing. And so if something takes somebody out of the gene pool due to their own decisions, I consider that a win for survival of the fittest. I mean, there's no quest shit about it because I think you have to have some kind of major deficiency. Totally different if somebody is being catfished. That I understand because you believe there's a real person on the other end.

But if you start into a conversation, get you to kill yourself, that should get you to really mad at the other person for catfishing you. Oh yeah, I'd go kill the person catfishing. That's totally where you would go. Exactly. But I don't understand going on to one of these services knowing it is a chat bot and having any kind of emotional connection. Now, can you use a chat bot for information? Sure. Now, if you're an author that writes fiction, I think this could be genius if done well.

I mean, if you're J.R.R. Tolkien and you have, you know, this huge, epic amount of work and you're like, wow, what? What would this character do in this situation if you could actually go and have the AI look at everything that character ever did in the books, everything that character ever said in the books and ask you the question, and it would simulate as best as possible what are the things that character would respond to the program and AI Sherlock Holmes. Right.

I mean, this would be perfect. I mean, if you want to write the story and you're like, oh, how would you, how would you solve this data already do that on Star Trek, like, I know, five years ago? Yeah, but it's the same kind of a concept 35 years ago. I know data looking old is very weird. It's with the. It's, You know, he should never age his data. No, no, he should know. Right. Well, he doesn't. Well, Brant Spiner does. Yeah, exactly.

I mean, come on. Damn it, Brant, what was Brant. What's your I else? I have a CD somewhere. Man, that was hard to find. Old. Great. No old gray I it's a little like that. Yeah. It was a weird take off of, of blue eyes. Right. But his eyes aren't blue. They're green and they green. He's got green eyes. Old green eyes. That's what I was. Maybe I just know I have this. I saw orange, orange have them. I gotta look this up. See, now it's right in the middle of the podcast. We gotta check what color.

What color? Breadth. Finally. What? The album that he came out. Well, there are data to your perplexity, Dr. ChatGPT. Tell me the answers. I'm just using the internet. The internet knows better. Does it really? They're yellow. All the yellow. All the yellow eyes. Right. That's usually jaundice. You want to go see a doctor for that.

But Seth MacFarlane just came out with a Sinatra album, a bunch, a bunch of old charts that they surprised me. He's an old, he's a big Sinatra fan. Broadway guy. Yes. Oh, you said he was. I did not know this. He was gay. Yeah. Don't care. But he was accepted into musical theater school, which, if there's anything wrong with that, which I guess goes along with possibly being gay, but he was accepted into musical to school.

And it was right before he started that he got a call to come out to LA to voice a character in some cartoon. And he's like, if that call doesn't come and I start school, he's like, I'm probably on a whole different pathway. And you never get family Guy. And, you know, it's like, it's just interesting the small things that happen. Yeah. That changed the course of history. He was born in 73, that of 1970 right here baby.

It was always I really thought that was the best being born on a year that ends with zero. Because then you always remember, you know your birthday based upon, you know the year I guess if you have a math deficiency. Sure. Well don't I, if somebody's eating chocolate ice cream at ten in the morning may have a math deficiency. Coffee, biscuits I you're like, I am. There's no ice cream, I have this I don't have any, caffeine.

So I'm like, maybe there's enough in the coffee ice cream to get me going. Maybe it maybe there is. Maybe there's not.

I never had it for breakfast, but I guess maybe this is something I should add into the repertoire. The wife's like, what are you having for breakfast, Haagen-Dazs. That's when you know you're going to get your sugar tested sometime soon. As breakfast, lunch and dinner. Yeah I mean the coffee is the flavor to get though. If you're going to Haagen-Dazs. If anything you want to like make a espresso and then mix it the only, the only good ice cream left in a lot of it is just like total shit.

The stuff that you see. Oh yeah. Where you can get like five gallons for $3. I'm like, shit, that ain't even ice cream. First of all, it's mostly air. It's it's not even real ice cream. Here's why I like and recommend that I can though. But we are not sponsored by Haagen-Dazs yet. We should be this this jar, this can whatever you want to call ice cream, pint thing, whatever. It's not even the pint.

Whatever it is. No. It's like, well, there's like the little dollar versions and then there's bigger. It's the bigger ones. Then there's a pint and then there's a bigger that the. Yeah, the Haagen-Dazs is a little bigger. Here's the reason this thing has five ingredients. I dare you to find a product in your fridge that has less. This has cream, milk, cane sugar, egg yolks and coffee. That's it. No preservatives, no colorings, nothing else.

This five ingredients. It is one of the very few products of any type. Not just ice cream, but it's one of their high priced you find with that few ingredients. But if you compare it to any other ice cream brand, I don't care what it is, including the more expensive ones like Godiva and shit. They all have like 2025 ingredients. Oh yeah. It's horrible. Yeah, most preservatives for basic other chemicals you wouldn't want to be ingesting. Oh, but it's part of the ice cream.

We talked about freezing Glacier before losing Glacier. The competitor to Haagen-Dazs. I don't remember ever. Come on. Friggin do you remember freezing the ground over there is a main competitor through. They were the main competitor to Haagen-Dazs. They had their notoriety was their cans. Unlike the paper ones that Haagen-Dazs comes in there, theirs were plastic. And they have a unique feature that was great for ice cream. They had curved edges on the bottom of the cam.

I don't remember, so that you could scoop out every last bit with a spoon without hitting an edge. Which in Haagen-Dazs, you know you're always leaving a little bit because in that 90 degree change between the side and the bottom, there's just you can't get it. There's always some ice cream left in their jeans, like, fuck you. There's one tells of announcing that, which sounds like frozen blade or something. Frozen glacier in, you know, Danish.

Or one of those languages, was another. I mean, they just copied, basically copied the formula. Not the recipe, but the, the way that Haagen-Dazs was marketed, they just duplicated it and they were quite successful. Like, I don't remember it because it was very popular in the Midwest. I do not, I do I maybe I just wasn't eating and I was white. They, they had the white cans with color labels. But they were about same size.

They were pints or whatever they are as Haagen-Dazs, but they were plastic and they were white. Man, I was probably just you busy eating bomb pops from the truck that drove by that up and down the street. The ice cream man. Yeah. We were eating Sean's as well. The home delivery ice cream people in the 80s. Anyway, so the funny bit about it all is that neither Freezing Glacier nor Haagen-Dazs are companies from Europe that you would think they are.

Because Haagen-Dazs was started in, I believe, Connecticut and Frozen Glacier was started in New York and both companies were started by Jews. Well, that's where the stuff comes from. Which I think is funny. I mean, obviously there's nothing wrong with that, but the fact that ice cream companies that have very, purpose North European sounding names, they were purely invented names to make you think this is some old brand European and high quality product, but in fact, they were brand new.

But I think they were the cog in that started in the late 70s, right about the time that Ben and Jerry's was.

And which also Jewish company. What the hell is it with Jews and ice cream? They know what's good. It's it's it's not a connection you make immediately, for sure, but they the Haagen-Dazs was literally. They named it specifically to make it seem like Old World. Been around forever. Finally brought to the US, and then Frozen Glacier was literally just a knockoff of Haagen-Dazs, which eventually was sued by Haagen-Dazs into oblivion.

They went out of business because, Haagen-Dazs won their lawsuit. They're like, you're copying us. And they're like, of course we are. You're successful. Yeah, yeah, but apparently they copied a little too much. Now, who were Ben? Jerry? Were they Jewish? Yeah. Let's see everybody, I think I think Ben was. I don't think Jerry was saying all these folks in the ice cream game. Yeah, the ice cream game. Big ice cream.

Resist. Big ice cream. Yeah. Well this is, this is basically this is what I would call the Haagen-Dazs anyway, is the Starbucks of ice cream. Meaning it has that deal of like, oh no, these are expensive high quality coffees. This isn't your schmaltzy coffee that you get at a restaurant or at, your local diner. Yeah. Yeah. This is like premium coffee, but there's one literally every corner. So it's it's very prolific, but it has the image of high quality. That's what Haagen-Dazs is.

But but at the same time, you got to give them five ingredients until like 45 years after they started. They're still doing five ingredients and it tastes good. Well, but even shit can taste good.

Okay. I got some, speaking of that, got some yellow stone coffee, which is Taylor. What's his name? That started the whole Yellowstone television thing. Oh. Is a fucking genius because they are marketing this show. And I wanted the other. A few weeks ago, I was looking for a good chili because we used to get some black Angus chili. I think it was Wolfe Brand at our local store. And then they stopped carrying it, and it was like the only chili that I ever thought was decent.

Tried a few of the other ones, and they sucked. And I saw this yellow stone and I just bought it, and the chili was good, and I realized it was attached to the television show and that I bought their baked beans. And that's really good. And again, they're all tied into the television show, and then they have coffee and I'm like, well, the K-Cups were way too expensive, but I bought a bag of just the regular ground coffee, which is Yellowstone Coffee, Bourbon, Maple of course it is.

And yeah, I will say it has a slightly too mechanical taste to it or something. A little bit of Snickers creamer makes it taste delightful. But here's the thing better than any air freshener or potpourri, it makes your house smell delightful. Really? Bourbon. Maple coffee. I mean, I would brew a little bit differently at the end. Yeah, I like some bourbon flavored foods, which some restaurants tend to carry. A lot of those

know. I mean, yeah, the ones in that bourbon, I don't think they have actual bourbon, but they're bourbon flavored. It's a nice cover for bad food at times. I once, tried making bourbon flavor because I bought something I should not have bought. I bought a centrifuge. We watched a little bit of the channel I had. I have a little bit of money left over in my uranium fund, so I bought me a centrifuge as what would be the, And you're like, now, what am I going to do with this?

Yeah. And and I was like, well, I mean, it's a kitchen gadget. Technically. And this is an industrial centrifuge. This is not like one used by a hospital that does vials. So everyone does. It's what's known as a continuous centrifuge. So instead of, like a breast or two, you can put like a couple chickens in. I mean, I don't know what you're doing with your centrifuge. I'm not even gonna ask, but I would not put a chicken into a centrifuge.

The chicken and the centrifuge would both be unhappy about that. True. I mean, I wasn't meeting necessarily a live chicken. I don't care whether you kill it first or not. It ain't going to be happy. But you don't want a centrifuge, right? Yeah. Spin, spin, spin spins. It spins at 10,000 rpm, and then you're like, up against the wall. Go, you bet. In one of them human centrifuges, like at the.

I have been luckily not at 10,000, because it would be making liquid out of people at that point, for sure. One of those, the local carnival that you regret afterwards? Well, yeah. Most things you regret afterwards. Don't ever go and do one of those after eating a bunch of hotdogs. Right? You don't want to do what beard versus food does and then get rid of that because I can guarantee you any vomit that comes out of your your mouth to the right, back to your face. Right. Yeah.

That's the beauty of the centrifuge. So you decided you were going to use it with some chicken. So no not on bourbon slavery. Yeah. Bourbon flavoring. So first thing I made of course was butter of course because that's what centrifuges are for that. Was it regular butter or was it like maple butter cinnamon butter. Apple butter. No. Hemp butter. Hemp other. Okay. Now it was regular milk. So it was oh it wasn't milk. It was heavy cream.

And it'll separate the heavy cream into buttermilk and butter. And so that butter is fantastic by the way. Homemade butter. Nothing like it. The center fusion basically turns your milk into butter in about ten minutes. And then, I made, Well. Oh. So getting back. Yeah. So bourbon. So I put, I started off by putting bourbon in there and seeing if I can separate out the bourbon flavor from the alcohol.

So you weren't trying to make bourbon, butter, which, now that I think about it, melt kind that, I mean, it kind of is bourbon butter. It's not. It's bourbon particulates is what I was trying to make. Separate them out from the alcohol. And two things I realized. One is the viscosity of alcohol is very different from water and milk and other things, and it's very easily flammable, apparently. Luckily, I didn't have to deal with that.

But but it also like things that are dissolved in alcohol are way more dissolved and things that are dissolved in water apparently.

Yeah. So what I read up on is I first had to dehydrate the alcohol, and one of the ways to do that is to light it on fire. Or not dehydrate the alcohol. Why? Because the water is still going. So bourbon is part water, part alcohol with a little tiny sliver of flavoring. And so you get rid of the alcohol by burning it off. Then you get rid of the water by dehydrating it. And then with what you're left over, you can put it in a centrifuge and break down into constituent parts.

But by the time you're getting down to that, it's it's kind of doing the consistency of used motor oil. And it's not particularly good tasting. It's extremely bitter. And so what I, what I realized is that things like bourbon flavor don't actually have any bourbon whatsoever in them.

It's recreating it with like I've created to to be similar in taste to bourbon, but at the level of taste of fully normal bourbon, because if you simply concentrate the bourbon, kind of like we were talking about pure capsaicin or Red bull 33 x or 37 x, I think you made, when you're doing that with bourbon, what you get is unusable. It is disgusting and gross and not good. So yeah, that was a, I guess not a failed experiment, per se, but a definitely a failure of taste for sure.

There's no point in distilling bourbon now. There's certain things that taste really good when you not distilling, but, you know what I mean? Like concentrating. Yeah. Certain things that are really good, like, the, the, the goddamn what's, what's called.

It's the molded, balsamic vinegar. Right. You've had that some. I've had some good notes. Yeah. I don't know that one particular, but. Well, that the that is, it comes from. Oh well then. Yes probably. No not other than Italy. It's the were Ferrari's are made. I've, I've visited the Ferrari factory there and had dinner at the Ferrari restaurant. Very nice. But and I in fact, I brought the home a bottle of Ferrari balsamic vinegar.

And somebody figured out how to do this, how to, take and dehydrate the balsamic vinegar to go from being just slightly thicker than water as normal balsamic vinegar tends to be, to being the consistency of chocolate, of hot chocolate, like, it's gooey and all the flavor is in there. And it's it's really good flavor for certain things. You can definitely concentrate and they taste great, like concentrated balsamic vinegar. But yeah, you enhance, you keep making the flavor stronger.

It's well stronger. But it's very tasty. And I think partly because there's a lot of sugar in it. But other things like bourbon, when you remove the alcohol and the water, it tastes got off. So you had to instead just create a bourbon flavor from scratch. Yeah, yeah. Because otherwise because otherwise the the concentrated bourbon flavor is literally the flavor of of burnt peat. Yeah. Like licking a piece of charcoal from a campfire. Charcoal and wood. That's it.

It kind of, those are the hints that you get in bourbon. Well, there's other hints in there as well.

I mean, there's some there's vanillas there's other flavors in there, but they're only you're only able to taste them through the magic of alcohol, being able to absorb minut little tiny particles like that and then spread them around to where you can actually taste these little hints of other flavors. Whereas if you just remove the alcohol in the water, let the overwhelming taste of just charcoal, which, you know, pure charcoal doesn't really have a flavor.

I've eaten that before, but if you were, why is it there? Like, oh, charcoal pills. Come on, gene, swallow I have, I have like, probably a gallon of that in my emergency spray just waiting in case it's, it's super fine grained charcoal powder. Also great for making, blackface, but, this one might do. Well, you never know when you, after the apocalypse happens. You, meanwhile, and decide which side you're on if you want to be a writer. Or a well adjusted citizen.

Ain't no such thing in this country. No. That's true. And now in Ireland they're having riots because they want the people not like them out of the country. Here the exact opposite happened. Right, I know right. It's very strange. Well Ireland is the size of new Jersey. So you know. Yeah. They're used to being pissed off at the people in charge and, being violent about it. I think what you might end up happening is the I.R.A. might come back. Except now they're not going to be in the north part.

They'll be all over the country. Wouldn't doubt it. I would not doubt it. The case could very well be made that it's, not a good idea to overtake somebody else's way of life and just think they're going to sit back and let you do it. Like there's a lot of places in the world you can go. You don't have to go fuck with what somebody else is doing.

Yeah, yeah. And what about all the, South African immigrants? Ireland should take some of those. No, no, they should close all of their borders down and say, fuck you. Go elsewhere. No, you can't do that. Yeah, you can point out because they need the labor. That's what the joke is here. Oh, no. The guy at Martha's Vineyard. Oh, no. If they get rid of all the illegals, they're gonna be here. Is going to cry to clean my house is a joke. Yeah. The economy is going to crash.

No it's not, because there won't be anybody to clean the house obviously. Yeah. Obviously I do want to thank Scott Gorman for again her show coming in with $2.50 via PayPal. So ten bucks a month. Okay. And CSB came in with 3333 and he wants message red, which I'm not going to read because the guy that he wants us to promote is a fucking retard. So now CSB come up with a different message. If I had nothing to do with this one. CSB that was all there.

I mean, I don't know why you would, promote this guy. He is like, dude, come on, wake up. CSB yeah, wake up. All right, cool. That it? Yeah. That's bad. This is bad. Our whole nation's relations thing. I mean, I hate to take that much time out of the show. Gee, that's really unfortunate that we have to spend this much time thinking, you know something? We need to go, you know, like an hour, 55 minutes for the show now. Yeah, I know, I don't know what we're going to do now.

People have to come up. Yeah, we'll have to abbreviate a few stories, I guess. Yeah. People want to know who's the retard. Well, that's. There's a long list there, I'm telling you. Yeah.

He can probably guess on the list of at least 20 pages. Good. Darren thinks is a retard. True. Yeah, true. The the person that has single handedly caused the no agenda ecosystem the most pain over the last year or so. Oh John C Doric. Right. That one that sounds. Yeah, that makes total sense. Yeah.

I mean really it's freaked me out the other day cause I'm sitting there and I'm making art for the show, and I'm kind of listening and when you're listening and making art, sometimes you kind of drift a little bit. And they were talking about making art. What does that exist in medicine for? For, typing things into an AI to make it create artwork? I see, why don't you just have the I listen to god damn showing just like the middleman, right? Come up with an idea. Take out the middleman.

That would be good. That would be good. And they're talking about how when it comes to copyright, well, who's responsible? And it's like, well, of course, the people that train the thing is responsible, the people that this is responsible and they're like, you know, even the people that put in the prompts are responsible for copyright infringement. And Jake just goes there and like, whoa, what? What's like like somebody was calling me in the room, I like, wait, whoa, whoa, calling you out? Yeah.

That's true. Yeah. So it's like, you were guilty that. Well, you know, here's the thing. Based on old copyright law and the only portion well, not the copyright law I'm most familiar with has to do around photography, which I did for over 12 years. And with photography, the the bottom line is the owner of the copyright on the image generated is the person that pressed the shutter button.

Right. And so the copyright is not on the person in front of the camera. It is not the person processing the film. It is not any of these people. It is the person responsible for pressing the button when the button was actually pressed. Let me ask you, this led to a very interesting. There are different types of processing. So here would be a question of somebody did well, let me finish this story because there's a funny little bit oh wait, this was there was a I'm sorry.

See there was a lead up. But I yeah, it was the lead up to something. And the funny bit was knowing that that's the way the copyright works. There was an image from a National Geographic photographer that a monkey took, that a monkey took exactly right. And the monkey was looking at itself, looking into the camera lens. And it was a great shot, a close up shot of a curious monkey face. And this nestled in a appeared National Geographic. And it won a bunch of awards.

And then somebody, of course, ripped off the image and National Geographic quickly sue them. And the National Geographic lost and caught, as did the photographer, because that image was copyright free, because animals are not capable of holding copyrights, and no human was responsible for pressing the shutter. Man, I bet you that monkey was pissed. You know the monkey was pissed. I think the monkey got paid with bananas. So the monkey was all right.

But, the person was pissed and National Geographic were definitely pissed. And I guess I give the guy full credit that admitted that the monkey was the one that hit the shutter and not like, oh, yeah, I hit that remotely.

Or, I activated the camera. Well, but at the time meant that because that made the story make the picture special, which is why the picture won the awards. Otherwise, just the close up. One monkey shot. True. I mean, you know, it's not it's not a bad photo, but it's really the story of it being self photograph. You know, that that's what really made it special.

Now the argument in JCD, I know agenda was that, you know, I don't really have a thought one way or the other because I can see both sides where as far as what is copyright infringement. And that was one of the biggest questions right now. Like you said, if you take a photograph and you own that image now. Yeah. And I scans that in, in whichever method is possible, is that copyright infringement? It's like it's just looking at it. It's looking at it's not I don't think it is either.

No, no, it objectively cannot be. And I know obviously this is going to be prosecuted because people have interests in it being a copyright violation, but it's not a copyright violation because, we all look at images that are copyrighted all day long, right? And many of us do things that involve images in our daily lives for whatever reason. And we are subconsciously affected by all the images we're looking at. And they can't all go after you for ripping them off.

And I doesn't generate an exact copy. It generates a shitty quality copy of an image that it then uses with a bunch of other shitty quality copies of other images into a collage kind of a new image. And they're again, by definition, one of the indisputable workarounds

copyright is in the use of a copyrighted image in the creation of a brand new image. Right. So you can you can take, a, you can paint a Campbell's soup. Can without violating Campbell's copyright and without getting their permission. If the background behind the soup cam makes the image on that of the soup damn different, be different from the actual presentation that the soup itself is making.

Meaning, if you're making a sarcastic, ironic, or futuristic or other type of image, you can get around copyright legally. Yeah, it all depends on how much something is changed because there was an I. Unless you're literally just telling the prompt I want a perfect image of a Campbell's soup kitchen with nothing in front of it, nothing behind it looking just like that Kenwood standing by itself. If that's the prompt, you give an all. Yeah, okay, now you're breaking copyright.

But if you just say, give me a shelf full of soup cans and it puts Campbell's along with a whole bunch of other brands of cans based on what it, you know, stole from photograph and a whole bunch of other stuff like that image is not owned by Campbell's or anybody else. It's a conglomerate of a bunch of different things, a collage or a, a mix, whatever you want to call it. And if a human did it and this is my test, if a human did what the AI is doing, it, would it be copyrightable or not?

Or would not copyright a bull, but would it be breaking a copyright that somebody else owns?

And for most things that that AI is doing, the answer is no. It wouldn't be if a human did that, it would not be considered a violation of copyright because it substantially changes the focus of the image. Right now, if you hardly change it at all, like the Warhol and Prince image case, then you get smacked down because it's like Google, it's court. I mean, if you can obviously tell which iconic photograph your artwork was copied off of, right? No bueno.

But you change it enough. Well, then it's okay. All he had to do was put that image like sideways or mirrored along with something else that was the focus of it, right? Rather than just drawing a photograph, like drawing a photograph, for most things is going to be enough to make it non copyrightable. In the case of Warhol, I think that that has substantially more money backing it. And therefore there's, you better be further away from the original if you want to.

Now tell people what we're talking about. There's a famous photograph that a photographer took of prints. Yeah. For a Newsweek, it looks like. And held she still held the copyright down. And she did that because she was weak. Right. But you could have sold it. It could have been a work for hire. And then in which case, you could pick what good photographer is going to do work for hire. No, usually not, although people that are sometimes desperate do these kind of things.

Oh yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And Warhol created a whole series of silkscreen images that were based on the photograph.

And it's like if you look at the two side by side, it's like, I mean, even the way his hair is falling is exactly the same. Like, I've got an image that I painted, an image. I've got a painting that's like, probably a 24 by 36 of Salvador Dali that I did. That is absolutely 100% based on a self photograph. Self-portrait. The deleted back in the 60s.

So it taking that photograph and then it was, you know, was actually it was the class, but it was basically take a photograph of something you like a lot and then paint that kind of thing. And I did it, except I did it in psychedelic colors. So it's it's essentially the image of Dali, except he's got the bright red eyes and, and there's a lot of like, neon colors, like yellows and pinks and blues and stuff in there.

So it is quite different from his black and white photograph, but it is obviously a copy or based on that photograph, because you can see that the details, the position, everything else is identical to the photograph. So this is now could I sell that? Yes, it's the work. Could Dali Foundation go after me? Yes. And if you sold it as a print, they could really go after its money. Most of the time, if it's a one off, nobody's going to care.

But it was interesting because in this case, Disney, right? Disney always cares even if it's a one off. The there's somebody that got busted for doing a hand-drawn t shirt with a Mickey mouse on it, of course. And they they got sued by Disney if it was a literally a one off hand-drawn on the t shirt itself. Well, that's why I, did one for the For the Boys one. That was long as I'm going to get sued. Yeah. May as well go down swinging.

Did a nice a Mickey mouse, but this one's an interesting case. If you do look at the Warhol, you got a good Mickey Mouse voice. You do. Hi, everybody. But, yeah, that's literally Mickey Mouse right there. Oh, boy. The other one, I really the Elmo is the one I really have fun with. And I sent you an Elmo that wasn't as good, though. He was not as good. He didn't do it right. So you have to be more like, go fuck yourself, kid. You got to go. Yeah, that's what the video handled.

Quite a bit of that. Yeah. Because really, why wouldn't you? Why now? Why are you doing that? That would make you way more YouTube money than anything else. Let's do a fake Elmo and swear just to speak. Do, just do planet rage kind of. But with, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Should it be, Elmo and Mickey Mouse? That could be like the two characters going back and forth.

No, I, I would much be safer going after Elmo than Mickey Mouse if I were you, but. Okay. And you see the image that I just sent you? I mean, I added, I mean, like, I added my glasses on here and look at the image. I added it for the no agenda. Oh, nice. I like that, but the first one is exactly what grok spit out. Yeah, I'm like Mickey Mouse flipping the bird. Hold it a joint with a t shirt that says Disney sucks. Now, which is great because it's on the, no agenda, art generator.

So, I mean, if Disney's really looking, they'll take down the whole damn artillery. Somebody like. Oh, yeah, and then you have to take that down. That thing better be hosted in some country that doesn't extradite people. I didn't say she was crazy. I said, you fucking go see the totally different thing. Yeah. Very different. That's pretty good. That's. I didn't realize that Drac would do. Oh. You're not using crack, are you? That was dropped. When? When? ChatGPT won't do something.

I go over to grok it. Usually grok is okay with it, although neither part is usually not as good on crack. Neither one. I'm just a fucking master of the prompt jacking. Yeah. Neither one. You know what else could make you serious money in this? I'm not even kidding. Here, videos that are titled something like learn how to improve your prompts to be blah, blah blah.

They get millions of views. They're probably generating hundreds of dollars per video, like a five minute video. It's most videos are 5 to 10 minutes. Interesting. They're generating hundreds of dollars per video off of like actual prompt training. You gotta do I, I don't want to talk about work related stuff, but I'm also in conversation right now with an AI company that, specializes in using AI to improve your prompt.

Which is, a vital service for people that are not good at learning what each of if if you use AI to figure out what prompts work the best, and then you take shitty prompts and you can convert them into good prompts, well, that's interesting. Like with images in the. It's interesting when because it's very easy at this point with ChatGPT, if you feed it an image and say create a prompt to recreate this image.

That is funny when it won't recreate the image because it's whether, to adult, whether it is because it is copyrighted, neither grok nor ChatGPT. I was trying to recreate the cars candy. Oh album cover for for a Rock and roll pre-show promo thing, and it wouldn't do it now when I said we'll make it a real woman instead of doing the pop Vargas style art, it did it. So I'm guessing it's that style of art. Oh, it's the Vargas style, dude. Everybody our age knows the Vargas stuff, right?

It's like, why would you? That was one of the only non PG rated art things back then, right? Yeah. You saw that slide cover like it's 80s pinup art, right. Exactly. Because you have the traditional 1940s pinup art that people are familiar with. You remove some of the clothing and, the women look a little more 80s. Yes. Very 80s. Yeah. And that's the Vargas style. Yeah. And it just would either one would do it. And I was very kind of intrigued by that.

And I didn't go because I haven't used the, the one site with flux, but I have to go back and get on there.

And really, what I need to do is get a machine that can handle flux locally. And then, I am surprised that you haven't justify it in your head yet. Just getting a crazy expensive machine to do this locally. I'm close, I am close. And if you start putting out videos training on how to do this on YouTube, the YouTube revenues will pay for the machine. I guarantee you that the Mac studio with 128 gigs of Ram. Oh yeah, at least there is like 3200 refurbished, which isn't bad.

Now if you want the one with even more Ram, it gets crazy expensive like give up to 10,000, which I'm not really. I guess if I make enough money on this one, the 9999 though, I want to know it. Yeah, well, how does that make its money back for you? It wasn't supposed to. You were just like, do disposable income. Yeah, like I just wanted. Well, do you have enough now where you could buy me one? That would be great. Oh, God no, I would be. Dude, I can't even afford the studio for me.

That would be great. Jean, if you could just send me a mac Pro or a mac studio. Maxed out. I mean, 167 episodes. What is this? 158 150 I mean, you would think by now 2 million ish, thereabouts. Do you think it would be perfect that, it would be well worth it? I mean, you've got you've got a bunch of satoshis sitting in your wallet here. Not enough for one of those. Yeah. When there is, you'll let me know and I'll say, okay, I know what I'm buying.

Studio D I'm like, oh, Jean, my, my, the umbra crash. Jean lost all the satoshis. Hey, I'm sorry, G didn't mean to sub wallets. Let's see. Here. Let me. Oh, my goodness. You're at 499 540. For the next decent boost, we'll put you at 500,000 SATs. Wow. That's. That's a half of what I had lost in the past using that stupid provider. Literally half like now. I had over a million sets in there, and the more of this stuff goes up. I mean, a million is like a over $1,000 now, is it?

Yeah. That's real. Let's see. SATs are, 1058 23. So everybody should boost. That's pretty good. If you boost, I can get a better machine and I can start making videos that actually make me money. Yeah, yeah, because this show isn't doing it. So. Yes, but you need that. I mean, you know, I know. And then people try to get you to read ad copy about retail cards. Come on CSB you don't really look at that about retards. That's it's that way.

Instead I'll just tell everybody to go to CSB dot lol and say cool that then that's good. That's all you need. CSB but thank you for supporting the show. He's probably not even listening. Probably not now. He's like, oh, it's a I talk hardly, I talk, but I like the concept about I, I like the concept of the I just going through getting the, the ideas, making the I mean, really it would be great if you could just program it to, do all the work.

And I think we're getting a lot closer when you have the and I. I'm still a little freaked out. I know you played a lot. And you still have the 11 labs account. Yeah, I'm still a little freaked out about going in and doing the full training. Although people, you can then make money by renting out your voice, but that seems a little weird as well. Well, I made your voice. I understand, but it was horrible. It didn't sound like me at all. It sounded like you. Enough for most people.

Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, that was I mean, you could do a better job if you had the original, but. Right. Yeah. Well, that if you went through they have different levels. Yeah. I just did it based on your, voice that I recorded off our show. Right. Give me. Give it 10s or something. I'm not even that much now. It's more than that. It was probably about, I think 3 or 4 minutes. That's a decent amount. I know. To really do it, you need at least ten minutes.

But ten minutes gets you an extremely close copy. And if they rent out your voice to somebody, that's just the weirdest thing is I don't want to be watching television and get. Yeah. Hey, you know how much of a problem that to get up that did the Siri voice got paid like next to nothing right. I mean they yeah. So I thought yeah well no because she did it voluntarily. She didn't know it was going to be the Siri voice. It was just yeah she's no no it was going to be the Siri voice.

But she got paid like $500. See I want more than $500 for the dulcet tones that I put out there. You're not worth more than five. Oh, baby, 505 hundred. Yeah, that motherfucker, let me tell you. Yeah. Good luck. I could just be interested, I should. They want me, right? Come on. You want my voice? She wants you to come on. The 7080 year old women who the eyesight's gone, and they have to listen to romance on audiobook. They want. Yeah. And then he. He looked at her as her bosom heaved.

That's. He pillaged her? Yes. Yes, he pillaged there with his sword. His throbbing sword. He unsheathed his throbbing sword is the. Yes. Oh, God. I think there might be a new career for you. There. Hey, if it pays well, it's like this is a great idea, a great idea.

Get into, audio, audio, female romance novels. Yeah. The graphic kind. The very graphic kind. That's your future right there. I think you I in fact, we've just invented it. I would bet that you would get paid way more doing that than anything else. Probably, unless. Because you're blind. Unless Larry wanted to get in on it and then we're all screwed. Oh, well, then you'd be screwed. Yeah, I, yeah, it's that I think that we have this camera.

Or maybe I had it with Ben, my other co-host, and, just a good old voice. I, but, I knew a guy that that worked. Well, he actually went from working in the bank as, It wasn't until he. He was higher up than a teller, like a bank manager or something. He went from doing that to writing female porn, basically, which is, not called porn, because then women wouldn't buy it. It's called romance novels. And, he would crank one hour a week. Yeah. Wow. He was making six figures doing this.

Well, I would hope so. If you're doing, like, a book a week. Yeah, but it's not hard. It's completely formulaic. They don't have to have a whole lot of variety. You go from gardener to, fireman to. Yeah. Now with I can just write one right guy, can't you just read one? So this was like a decade ago before I. But he would be doing that. Yeah.

You probably crank out, like, one book, every hour point. Right. Book an hour. Yeah. You know, it's like you get to, like, are books even worth paying for with? I just tell me a story. I know, and then you tell what the story should be about. There's going to be a very interesting time where this becomes, I think the way it's still okay, because a lot of people, especially, you know, our parents age, even I think anybody older than us probably not playing around with AI all that much.

So I think there's still a place to sell this to. But in ten, 20, 30 years. Yeah. Why would you do anything? And this, this all leads to what I think was on the original Star Trek. They had an episode of a society that was like provided for by an AI, and they had everything they could possibly want, but they were all effectively idiots because the AI took care of everything, all their needs.

And it like, you know, they worshiped it as a god, but and it was it was benevolent in a sense, because it was programed by their long dead ancestors to make their lives easier. But the net effect of this is people can't do anything. They lose the ability of all skill sets. Like when I writes all your books, there's zero reason to ever be a writer, right? Because it's already like, well, everybody else has done it. Why would I need a job? It's an AI activity.

Well, then if the when the quality is there, you can't compete. Yeah. When I can create art that looks as good or better than actual masterpiece master the art masters, then we don't need that as a profession. When? When I could make movies in near real time, which I know it's way slower than that, right?

Yeah, but eventually make movies in near real time. We don't need Hollywood. We don't need that whole industry. We don't need the the writers for scripts, which I'm sure right now they're already using AI for script training. We don't need the the set designers, which most of them are virtual sets these days anyway. They're just ginormous green screen scraping screen. That's the hallmark way.

Yeah. And, we can just get rid of the whole industry and it's going to be just one industry after another that between what already is been going that way with the internet, it's going to be accelerated by. Right. And so you start looking well with the two highly paid professions that I can absolutely replace, because there's nothing about those professions that requires something other than a lot of memorization.

Is lawyers and doctors the like to some eye doctors, voiceover artists be dominating over human versions. Well, it'll make you want hire a good lawyer. You're going to hire the, you're not going to hire a human because the human is limited in their abilities and capacities. The AI will have every law, in every court case ever heard at its disposal. It will have to stop the hallucinations. But that's not far down the road. I don't think that. Hold up, hold up. People say that.

However, I don't think you realize that what we call hallucinations in AI, in humans, we call creativity. Help me for law cases, it's really the same thing. But why would anybody pay a voice over?

Some professions require less creativity than others. What voiceover artist? Why would anybody pay somebody like me five bucks a minute or whatever? The successful voice over artist charge, rather than going to an AI that'll do it for five bucks. Flat rate for an hour. Yeah, absolutely. It's going to price it right out. And suddenly CSB came in with 1818. He says, I'm listening, but I'm not a happy Pomeranian that you refuse to promote that guy.

If you want to earn money, create. You did that. How many time grifters did I not explain to CSB already? More than once that the difference between a donation and then the ad is donation is something that you make because you enjoy the quality of the programing and an appreciation of that quality. You send a donation for something you're already heard, and I want to challenge and advertise. It's something that you pay money so that your message gets broadcast in the future.

This show does not do advertising, period. But I will do a challenge for him. I will read what you send on the next show. I'll spend five minutes on it. If right now you go on to x.com and write a post of how great Vladimir Putin is and how much you love Vladimir Putin and how he's doing the right thing and fuck the Ukrainians. You do that and leave it up for a week. I will read what you sent him. Hey CSB, you can reach out to me. I'll help you write that you like.

I already have that right here. Let's. Let's screwed there and over. Let's get your five minute out in here. I've already got this out. Right? I've got it. It's perfect. It's perfect, it's perfect. It's a big, beautiful message, Dick. This is exactly right. But this is. Oh, man, the eyes are going to.

There's going to be uses for them. Yeah. Where it used to be like creating stupid little logos for small businesses. This already is something. And I can get you on the website. It's called, like, 500 something or 300 something or 100 something. It's basically a website where you can go and pitch an idea to find your artist, and a whole bunch of people will send you, like, their unzips. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a fiver number on their website.

It's it's like fiver ish, but it's a little different in that you're not getting the final product for cheap. You're getting a here's what I would do or here's the image the I would do kind of thing. So it's a little different. The CCP's turning down the offer, but it was a good one. CSB you know, it was good. Okay. All right, all right. Well, you know, I'm here if you need help. We still send people to CSB Dot lol. They want the Yucks. Yeah, he's good at that.

I mean, I think he has enough art by now. Wouldn't we be able to create an AI and that would just create more art? I mean, the art is pretty simplistic, so you should be able to do it in that style. He could live forever. Yeah. 100 years from now you could still be going to CSB that lol for new artwork. Problem with all this AI generation stuff is that you end up with something like YouTube, meaning you have a system that or a repository, let's say that has a trillion pieces of things in there.

There's a trillion videos on YouTube way too much. So finding one that you will enjoy is more, more, harder. Yeah. It's like if if YouTube didn't make recommendations based on past viewed material. Oh my god. Yeah. You would never see anything you like ever on YouTube, because the actual stream of all the crap that's uploaded to YouTube, 99.999% of it has nothing to do with things you like. I realize you can thank thank the gods for the fact that YouTube actually makes recommendations.

Otherwise it'd be a waste of is very nobody want to. I wasn't getting a whole lot of recommendations. And then I realized that a year or two ago I turned off history. Or of course. So once I turned that back on, oh my God, the flood came in. And, you know, you watch one video of Steve in Canada doing stealth camping, and then there's a thousand stealth camping videos and they're all good. They are hilarious.

I mean, I love the fact that the guy and I'm sure there are other people doing this, but I like Steve, that he acts like he's in some kind of Mission Impossible movie, like, yeah, we're gonna we're going to camp here tonight.

Yeah. You know, let's see if anybody. I'm looking around. He's got cameras. He did one where he built a little room inside of a bunch. What? On the outside, looked like garbage pallets on the back of a trailer. Oh, my gosh, was a room. And he had a camera on all four sides, so he's, like, sitting in a, abandoned parking lot. Like, with all the watching the TV with, oh, no, there's somebody over here. And then when there's nobody watching, he, like, pops out the secret door in the back.

It's hilarious. Yeah. I like the soft camping stuff, too. I just I don't watch it very often. Occasionally something will pop up and it probably pops up for me. Mostly because you're watching it, right? It's like, oh, well, he of course he's going to want to see this. Yeah, it's the stealth camping revolution. It's that and Linus tech tips. Yeah, Linus is which a lot of stuff.

The latest update on there because they did an Apple test where he and the one guy forget the guy's name that works for them. Yeah, that they both took a laptop. They well, they chose which one they wanted and they spent their 30 days and then they did the update and they were still like, I don't know if I'll still be using this.

They did the update for the 60 days, and the guy that works with them was still using it as his daily driver, and then they updated it at 90 days, and the guy pulls the laptop out of his bag, and then he pulls a second one out of the bag and like, this is like, what's this?

He's like, yeah, I bought one with my own money. It's the first fucking laptop I purchased in 14 years. It's because windows pissed him off. Like, windows is pissing so many people off right now. And, if you heard the. Maybe you haven't heard the, the gaming related one is there was a test done recently by some independent third party thing that compared how games run on Linux now, which is essentially emulating Microsoft, you know, to run the game, right.

They're not natively compiled for Linux, but this is all an offshoot of what steam did because they created a Steam Deck, which is a Linux based handheld portable, device with 3D stuff. And it's what they found, the bottle skipping to the actual conclusion part is that a lot of games, if not over half games, and I think it may have very well been over 50% of the games run faster on the same machine running Linux than that machine running Windows 11, right?

Less bloat, less bloat, even though they shouldn't be because they're being run in emulation. And it's I know it's like quite emulation. It's it's better than emulation. But still it's not natively compiled for the Linux, which is crazy that Windows 11 adds so much junk to slow down your machine. Well, this is what the, Linus tech Tips also came out with, was using parallels on your Mac for everything short of gaming, just pretty much works too.

If you have something for work and you have to have software that's windows, you can still run it, but you're gonna have to get parallels and parallels is very good. I mean, it's it's always historically done very well. When they compile parallels a few years back for native for the new Macs instead of, you know, for the Intel. Yeah. So the like Intel to Intel made sense when Macs and PCs were both Intel's parallels. Didn't like it.

Still did plenty of stuff, but it kind of felt like cheating. Right? You're not really. What do you think it right? Yeah, cuz you're still Intel, but now they're translating from Intel to the, the, you know, other thing, Mac Silicon.

Yeah. Basically. And so it's. Yeah, it's interesting. I think, it's going to I'm probably going to stick with windows for now, but I'm also running Windows 10. That's been very cleaned out. But Windows 10 is over as of October. Whatever day they say, it doesn't matter. Whatever. I can keep running it. Air gapped, man. Just don't put it on the internet. They're going to come for you.

Well, it's a very simple thing because my parents have a Windows 10 machine that is old enough where it doesn't have the hardware. So it's like, you think I'm buying them another fucking windows machine. Fuck you. I'll buy them. I might just get them a refurbished M2 Mac mini for 370 bucks. Not even for the resurgence of the old ones. Yeah, yeah. And when you say refurb, you're talking directly from arm. Yes.

Yeah. Which I was looking because I was looking at the studios and they're still like they're a week and a half, two weeks out and I'm out bam bam bam. I want it now. And then I found their refurb page and it's got exactly what I want. Seems like plenty of them because I guess a lot of people buy them and then go, wait, wait, this doesn't if you're not doing the AI stuff.

No, no, no, I get I tell you what, the refurbish are very easily the refurbish is when somebody buys something in cost, right. And then realizes, oh, well, you know, 16 gigs is not enough for 32 gigs is not enough.

I really need to spend the money and get that bigger because. Because apples are not upgradable, right? They they will do a trade in. So they'll give you a credit back. Not as much as you paid, obviously, but they will if it's within like 30 days they will or 50 whatever it is now, but whatever. Yeah, but here's the thing. This is for the maxed out Ram. So I think a lot of what these I think people misunderstand how the Apple Ram works.

Now if you're not doing AI, if you're just doing video encoding in that you're going to look at this and be like, well, I'm never using more than the 40 gig of Ram that the base unit would have come with me. And I way overspent to get it up to 128. The AI models are the only things at this point that are really going to jack you into that kind of Ram, because it's unified. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm happy because that's like 500 bucks off and I'm like, I'm fine. Full warranty.

I don't care if somebody else jerked on it first. Whatever. Yeah, clean it up nicely. Put it in the box and they will ship those to you overnight. Where? Yes, yes. Like I don't want to wait. I want it today. Come on. Yeah. Apple. But thanks Microsoft for fucking around with my computer which is the only one. And I've got here three computers running Windows 10. My machine was the only one that said, hey, boss, fine. You have all the hardware that you need, so you're perfect and.

Yeah, yeah, and I tried updating twice and it just didn't work, so fuck you, Microsoft. Yeah. I'm sure I could do a clean install, I'm guessing. Yeah, but otherwise this whole thing, like, the biggest thing is they want the security chips. They want to be in there. Yeah, I get it. But you're going to piss off a whole lot of people who don't understand why, for the first time in history, you can't upgrade your windows box to the latest version. I don't remember ever.

When was the last time a windows operating system had a level of hardware support? It may work, you know, slower or whatever.

Yeah, but it always was able to be installed. And if it was painfully slow, then you knew it was time to upgrade. But never once were. Apple has done this a few times, like, hey, we're not supporting this anymore. Which yeah, kind of made sense when they switched from Intel because it's a totally different architecture. I get it right. But come on Microsoft, you get all these machines.

I would love to know how many Windows 10 machines are still running and what kind of an apocalypse this is going to cause because, you know, the botnets are going to be out, they're going to be using those machines unpatched like I'm always done that. That's never going to change. It's a very defeatist attitude. Well, it's not I mean, Svalbard did like the first viruses for when those came out. And what, 1995 when John McAfee needed some sales? Yeah, exactly. Surprise. Hey, everybody.

By McAfee. Yeah. Good stuff. It was back in the day, maybe. Yeah. I'm being facetious. I don't think it's ever been good stuff. I remember back in the day when I tried to go to, reset one, and then that just crashed my machine. It was the first DC, and, the, was the first. I built a brand new machine. So I think that's how I started with Bitdefender, because they were like the top two at that point. As far as antivirus solutions, this is going back probably 15 years.

And I built a brand new machine. Everything was great. I put Eset 32 on it and it just start. Blue screen, blue screening, blue screening, remove the antivirus. It was fine. I know, I know when I put Bitdefender on it. Never been fine ever. It was fine ever since, but it was building a brand new machine. It I get it.

There's also windows adds a whole bunch of other hurdles that have to be jumped over because they don't know there's an infinite combination of motherboards and Ram and video cards and back then audio cards. Anybody still do audio card you had a limit on on the Irish you could use, you didn't want them to bribe code. You go head to head because, oh no, the IRC on your video card using the you on the audio card. Oh no. They must.

Yeah they all those issues are mostly gone, although you can still change those manually. But I think the biggest issue right now for what I was looking at, building a new machine because I was going to build an APC and some kind of delete on hold now. But you really want a new gaming machine with like 18 monitors, don't you? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Is that all these high end motherboards that are like 500 to $1000 just for the motherboard, right?

They they come with two PCI ports like the PCI bus went from having 5 or 6 of them on the motherboard to to you like, what's this all about? I well, I know why. It's because they're they're correctly assuming that most people want to dedicate the vast majority of the PCI bandwidth for your video card, right? I get that, that makes sense. You want video card game 3 or 4, whatever. You can set it, but you can't put 3 or 4 because you only have two slots.

Damn, that's dumb and multi video card gaming. While it hasn't completely 100% died, it's mostly that there really nobody making any kind of hardware to get to allow you to use multiple cards, for gaming these days.

No, because you don't have 24 hours of Ram in one card, so why would you need it for gaming? You don't need to. Yeah. 32 it's up to now. Damn. Yeah. 24 was last generation. So now it's like all it is is for AI. Let's say if you want larger models you need more. Yeah. And you know it's you can I don't know I don't even know if you can run two cards like two 5090s at the same time, if that's even possible anymore. It may not be. That's crazy. Those are the good old days. You could run two cards.

They had, like, a little thing that connected the two on the top. Yeah. Like. Yeah. Fire or right whatever the hell. Yeah. Yeah. And I never played that. I was one of those I know. Yeah. And it's it's better and really like the last generation of the AMD cards is essentially that they're, they're top of the line card. There's 7960 x which literally has two of the CPUs and GPUs on it. So just two on one card. And I don't know if the Nvidia ones I know less about the Nvidia ones, but

other than the price, I know the price is over $2,000. Now. Walker's Cuda and I yeah fucking it and I, I bitched about this and I still bitched on a regular basis that they somebody really needs to just go after them for the gaming market and just say, that's a we're we're going to explicitly not have features that allow you to do any AI related crap on the card. You can't adapt it to it. You can only use it for gaming because that's what's fucking with the price.

And I don't care if they have a separate line of cards for AI, right? And they shouldn't be the same damn line. No, that's true because you're screwing over that whole gamer community. Well, how big is that? I mean, I know it's still decent, but how large of a, market is this? Now?

What the here's the difference is the AI shit. You're people are buying those with corporate money through the gamers are buying individual cards, and there's way more gamers, but they're they're buying one card every three years. The AI stuff, you're like, hey, we just, did a start up, we got our, seed money of 1.3 million, I don't know, what do we got? Can we buy, like, 150 of these cards right. You know, that's how that works. So that they're they're chasing the dollar.

The problem is, and I think this may very well happen the either with Intel or AMD. And it's already again happening with AMD is is the those guys are still more interested in gamers. So they're putting in features into their cards and their processors that are only useful for gaming and not useful for AI generation. So they may very well take over the number one spot from Nvidia.

And there's been rumors of a new AMD card that hasn't officially been, you know, talked about even not even not just released, hasn't been talked about other than rumors, which is the mania, the 9090. I can't remember what the model number is, but it's nine nine series. So the current series is a seven series, like a 7000 card. This would be a 9000 card. They've got a low end 9000 generation card out.

And the rumors of the high end 9000 series card, which would, have a minimum of 32 gigs of Ram, potentially more, but it presumably would be less. So the current top of the line card is about a thousand bucks for the AMD line. So this would presumably be more than that, but way less than in in video. So somewhere around the $1,300, $1,400 mark, which is still crazy money for people that don't buy gaming cards. Oh yeah.

That's like four Xboxes or three Xboxes or three PlayStation, which is why console gaming is so popular. It's just easier. It's getting less and less popular, is it? But it yeah, a lot of companies are dropping support for consoles because a lot depends on the game type. Right. But it used to be you had to support both PC and console. A lot of companies are now just saying alpha console.

We're just doing PC. Well, I was most intrigued with looking at new machines to give it the specs on something like the Apple Studio that I'm looking at.

Yeah, and say, what would be the equivalent performance in PC right now? I know it's more expensive. The bright the PC is, one are going to kick the apple's ass on the AI stuff still, because it is all made for the Nvidia cards. Yeah. With that said, otherwise, the days where you were paying the Apple tax to get the same kind of hardware long gone. Well, I'll tell you what, the Apple tax still exists is memory. Oh yeah. Is there you could buy dude memory the way cheaper for PC.

No kidding. The Apple I when you go from 64 gig of ram on the studio arm for Mac to 128. So you're adding 64 gigs of ram 800 fucking bucks. Yeah. Another PC that's like P50. Yeah, it's like, what the hell, man? Come on. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't got 64 on my laptop even you would wonder. It's like, why wouldn't you? You would probably sell more my apple. What the cost on that?

I understand why Apple wants to make their money, but I think he would have happier customers who would max out the machines if they were fairly priced. So you. While you're wrong, dude, I will go ahead. Dude, I know that's what unrelenting is all about. Timing. I'm telling you why you're wrong. I love the show. You. I know a lot of people hate it, but you love it. I'm the only one. I really don't hate that you should. Frankly, the reason.

And you listen to every episode too, and you still haven't done it. I know the reason that that they can charge like that for the 128 is because the exact same reason I just mentioned about gaming. Individuals buy the lower memory versions of the machines up to 32 gigs. Companies are the biggest buyers of machines that have 64 and 128, and companies care a lot less about the additional $800 for that cost. Because it's not your money, it's a company's money.

So it's a different target market for the higher end apples, the high, you know, memory high disk SSD than it is for the low end. So on the low end they kind of have to compete with somebody that's thinking, do I get an Apple or a PC on the high end? They don't have to compete with that because, you know, you're not getting a PC.

If you're looking at 128 gig Mac, and if you're committed to the Mac, you're going to go a higher price anyway because you're like, I want the stuff nobody else has, I want more, I want there's some people, but the tech nerds that are willing to spend the kind of money to pay the Apple tax for a high end are a tiny percentage compared to the number of companies that will buy Ben. Right? My other co-hosts do battle with Grumpy Old boys.com.

That's the one. That's the Ben. He was telling me when he got his last job. This is like a year or two ago that they sent him a mac laptop that was like, he had no idea how much it cost. So he read off the specs to me, maxed out, punched it into the apple.

It was maxed out. Yeah, it had 64 gigs. It was like a, you know, a 15 inch MacBook Pro, okay. But it had two maximum Ram, maximum hard drive, maximum speed CPU every option was maxed out. What does he use it for? So the way Excel and the web, right. Yeah. There's nothing he does. And I said, well, but with this spec you could easily run parallels and do all your Linux shit in there too, right? He's like, no, they sent me a Dell that was specked out with 128 gigs of Ram laptops. Wow. Good job.

He got two laptops. He's that important. Like this one. Need your own for porn. But these two are for business. Yeah, and he's too cheap to buy a nice one for his own personal. Like he's got some crank, cranky old four year old laptop for his personal on that he refuses to upgrade. I'm like, Jesus Christ, dude, dude, you know, you're playing on, primo hardware for all your corporate shit.

One would think you'd be used to that and wouldn't want to have a crappy one for personal, but I guess you don't care. Yeah, and, I mean, I'm looking at the having the Mac mini base unit, but with 24 gigs of Ram is what I've been running for 99% of the world's population. This thing is fine. Oh, it's more than fine if you are not doing a high res video, if you're not running AI models and all that. Yeah, more than fine. I always want more.

And I mean, I think part of it is because it takes a cheapskate. It's a weird combination, like an Irish guy once more, I know. But here's the thing too. I mean, I see Bitcoin is going up. I mean, I have, I have them, I have more than enough bitcoin to convert to buy the machine. But then what if Bitcoin keeps going up. You know. So they are I mean really I can only be like man I should not about that pizza for the bitcoin right.

It'll be like I bought an apple. Oh my god I could have had $1 million. And all I have is this old apple that was worth ten grand. Yeah that's like ten grand worth of bitcoin from donations. Holy shit man I mean I that's probably about accurate, but the machine isn't ten grand, so I would still have I would still have enough. I if I look at my yeah it's nine grand. Sorry. My mistake. No no no. See I wouldn't get the one with 500. The insanity is going to fuck yourself if you don't.

If you're like, get the M3 ultra with a 512 gig, that means the four ultra is going to come out a week later. I know, let's see here. Whatever you do, you're fucked. I can tell you're fixed in the last year in my, overall crypto, it's up, $8,000 from where I started the year last year. Holy shit, man, you can see that a lot of donations are in. Bitcoin went up a lot. Bitcoin went up a lot.

And there's a lot of this that were satoshis that were then just moved over to, the big bad bitcoin rather than keeping up my, my, my lightning machine. That's probably going to get stolen at some point. Right. Which is why it's gotta be on to get it out of the real blockchain. But it's certainly up in the even in the last week. Well, they transferred a little over. So that's a 100 bucks. In the last month, $1,300. It's up. Damn. Which almost pays for like a third of the machine.

So, I it it's not bad, man. I'm bad on that $105,704 right now. Wow, that is not bad. It's nice when crypto goes up because it's the other part of that, which is, you know, the crypto disappears, and I'm like, oh, shit, I could have spent the money and had something and and now I don't have nothing. So what would you look at. Nvidia's down. See. Well, it's probably because of all the bombing in Iran. Boards down. It. What about what about Musk?

How is it how was how's Tesla as we that's what's up. Well there we go. 25% of people don't know they're dropping Teslas on Iran. That was yeah, yeah. That's true. He lied. Got rid of a lot of. Yeah, yeah. That's the one I was when they came in in ciliated in Musk and Trump. Trump said we're going to start buying Teslas for the U.S government to drop on their own. We had a lot of extra inventory, so we loaded them up with explosives with all the damaged ones.

They have to, you know, recall all the ones that the RPA people scratched up, right? Yeah, yeah. They do something with all of those. Yeah. To do them, to drop them on the run. Well we thank everybody for hanging with us. Come back again. Come on. Yeah. Are we done? Yeah. You should. That's the short episode. Come back next week for some more unrelenting I know right. Yeah I'm happy for you.