139: Carnivore Christmas

I get groceries showing up. This. Year. Every year. Hello and welcome to episode number 138 of unrelenting. It's the Christmas party song episode. I'm Darren O'Neill. He is writing like cold up there was it was. It was great. We don't even have to go find a cold opener from the show where we know. I know, right? And I like it when we use a cold opener that's not in the show. I wonder if anybody ever notices or even cares. It's in the show is literally the first thing.

It's the thing. It's the thing within the thing. Let's do the show. I got me some groceries coming. Anything good? Not really. No, just regular stuff. Throwing out some new, vitamins. Oh, what do we trying out? New? You got to be 12 on hand, just in case. Oh, yeah, I got B12. No, no, no, I I'm not trying him. I'm ordering him from the grocery store, so. Oh, well, then you will be trying them eventually. I will be trying out some. It is perfect.

And I've still got the, beautiful Mac mini running. It did, this program crashed the mix. The open source thing that just it didn't crash. As much as I got the rotating beachball of death yesterday. Oh I, you know I had that happen on a piece of software that I use for one of my games and after updating to a new version and I, I got on discord with the author, explain what's going on and he's like, man, no, seems to be very fun. It's of course like, well, it's crashing on my system.

So I sent them all of my data, zipped it up for him, and then he looked at it and he says, been talking fine on my end. You gotta love. Well, okay. I mean, you know, your latest version doesn't work. It's something that's dying and choking on something. So I downloaded the previous version and I've installed that. And so far it's been running fine. Yeah. So I did notice there was another version of there. So I went to that.

Yeah. The way to do it, you know, you never know what you do know because I've written plenty of software over my many years of developing experience and it crashes. It's bad. Yeah. You just there's always bugs. You can't ever have a product that has zero bugs. It's literally impossible because every it's made by humans every. Now I mean, the eyes will be writing them soon. Man, those will be bug free. Except the problem is the humans wrote a song and there will be bugs.

Because the human bug. Yeah. I mean, once we eliminate the human stem, everything will be bug free. That makes sense. So that was annoying. But otherwise the machine seems to be chugging along, chugging along. It's gonna keep chugging along for years. Dude, there's literally nothing you need to do to it. Occasionally it'll install new software that's about it. I but I downloaded the one package, although I'm guessing it's not the best one.

After reading a little bit more diffusion be, which is one of the stable diffusion ports over to OSX, and allegedly it uses the and it uses the GPU. I mean, you can verify that it's using the GPU to do the thing that it does. Yeah. Allegedly. There's another one called draw things that are supposed to be faster that I will try because I pulled out the flux that, the model that I had been using, which I haven't in probably about a month or so, online.

And it worked just the same, except it was taking about eight minutes per image. Which, isn't great, but this again is a base $600 machine. So, I mean, there's that compared to go by the $2,000 video card. And I'm not even sure exactly. I mean, that it would probably still be two minutes, you know, I mean, it's not like, well, I, I'm to bet that if somebody didn't report it, but I actually wrote something at some point natively, it would be significantly faster.

Yeah. And I'm assuming that's where everything will eventually get. And I'm when I realize it's like, well, a lot of times you want a variation and if you want a variation, well, that's not all that bad because you can set it to create 50 variations and then just walk away, and come back in an hour or two and you'll have your 50 variations. It's not like it's a, a horrible thing. Faster would be better. So I'm thinking, okay, this is, you know, trying to do the math once the,

we have the, four pro out, but we are assuming that at some point early next year, mid-next year, we'll have the M4 ultra and the M4 Max coming out in the Mac studio. I'm just wondering, well, how quick would that be?

So I think it has more to do with writing something natively, because the the version you've got already has eight cores, but something that is written by, oh, I don't know, let's say Apple that utilizes those is going to be fully utilizing them in a way that more than likely, I don't know, it's without looking, but more likely that the, port of something coming from the BCC would do it. Yeah, it's all about the GPU cores with this stuff.

I mean, because that's why you get well, but but it's I mean, that's the thing that CPU, because it's GPU cores in the absence of anything else, which is where all the stuff on the PC is using GPU cores, because pieces don't have at least haven't, they will start as well in the new Intel and AMD chips, but are they going to like all this unified memory stuff? It's in previous generation chips. They've not had the AI course the way that the Apple silicon does.

And so it is you're relying on the GPU. Plus Nvidia's really made a push very early on to start, building their architecture to be able to support types of mathematical calculations that are needed for AI. So yeah, Nvidia's got a huge leg up. And it's sun, you know, they also have video cards that don't do, I guess. And AMD's video cards don't do AI stuff. Radeon and Intel's video cards don't do the AI stuff. So it's just specific AI and cards from Nvidia to do it.

Well, Intel's playing a disrupter right now, which I was surprised. They are, you know, like, well, they have a card that is cheap and actually fairly good. With all the things I've read and watched. Yeah, I think for the money it is very good. They're competing in the mid-range, the low end mid they haven't, they have nothing in the high range right now.

But if they maintain the price point and start the building more cards in high range than they absolutely are going to be a disruptor, which is good. I mean, we want the prices to come down. Well, it's yeah, it's ridiculous because historically the high end cards have been around $1,000. Yes. And when when the latest generation of Nvidia, which is now at this point like 3 or 4 years ago, came out the fourth generation. So the 4090 card, I think list price on that was 1499.

And it was everybody was just, oh my God, that's insane. That's an over $1,000. You know, you get a whole PC for under a thousand. That card is 1500. Well within a year or two it'll come down to under 1000. So it'll be good. Current price on that card is over two grand is there's no supply. There's not enough supply. Cause what's happening is that it was originally the highest end gaming card. And it's great for video games.

And, also people that do AI are buying them by the thousands and sticking them into data centers while they were for the crypto mining two. Right. That was in there. Yeah, yeah. It started putting the blocks on the crypto stuff. But I think at this point it's completely shifted. Like the crypto mining stuff is being done on dedicated machines just for the crypto. Adam Curry's got two of those things running right now. Go pull this, go pull the plug, be like haha, I know right?

But and I'm sure there's some people still using the VM cards for that as well, but I think the majority of these video cards are right now running. I yeah, and when you look at that, a video card that is costing if you want to buy a new about two grand and then you look at the price on the Mac mini at 600 bucks, it's like when you buy four computers, almost right, at least three for the same price.

And the interesting thing, and I have no idea, how it works, but I did see a video with somebody that was doing I kind of stuff, and they had a rack that had like, 20 of the last generation Mac mini, not the brand new one, but they were all connected. So you can connect these things in kind of a hive way that, Apple has been selling racks for these for decades. A lot of data centers of use Mac minis for specific tasks. Very interesting. And what I would not have thought of.

Yeah, it's, it's very compact. And a lot of times, having machines that are independent is better than having one machine that is much larger and much faster. But then it's running just one operating system, so it's something it needs to get rebooted, something needs to get updated. You have to take that whole big machine and all the virtual servers that are running on there. Whereas with the Mac minis, if you just, you know, Lisa, mac mini and Data Center, it's yours.

Tours, maybe it'll do everything you want and then more. Yeah. Which just makes me want to go. Hey, give me one of the. Give me one of the studios. Mad Max it out. Oh my God. Give me 128 gig of Ram. Come on, baby, you don't need that. There's nothing you do that requires that is, you know, video now who knows video where you say that video is for suckers, man. Video called the Radio store, right? The Buggles, the first video ever on MTV. Kid.

The thickest glasses ever in the rock band to start with. Those weren't real. I don't yeah, they're absolutely real. I watched the documentary about it. Now they like the real glasses, but I didn't really need them. Derek. No, he absolutely does. He's blind as a bat man. Knife totally killed the radio star. He's probably got worse vision than you that will already get us kicked right off of. I mean, we had looked in the interim. If I were Derek.

I don't totally get blown out of the unrelenting water after this. The last episode. I haven't checked, like, is it gone? Probably if they put you in, YouTube jail yet. You like over modulated there for a brief second right. Yeah. Well you picked digital briefly. Yeah. Am I now. It was weird. I'm doing all right. I'm doing well with my, completely apolitical YouTube gaming. I'm rather enjoying not doing anything political on YouTube because you really can't.

That's the best way if you want to speak. But here's the thing I. I thought about this too, is like, have I got content for. It was supposed to, especially for my show been with you. We can talk about drugs and things and everybody in with better talk here at unrelenting. If you like it, it's a little different. But like okay, so Trump's in office but nothing's actually happened yet. There's nothing to complain about him doing wrong

because he's not quite in office yet, but he's going to be in office. So do I even want to talk to anything political at this point? Yeah, kind of irrelevant, except for the fact that it seems that the outgoing folks are trying to set little booby traps

for the incoming force, their budget dicks. That's why there will be a if, if, if I was coming into office like Trump, I would have you would be a great commander in been. No, I would be a great dictator. You got to recognize there's a difference. Day one. Yeah, absolutely. First, first order of business. Everybody is fired. Now, if you want to apply for your job back, you have to go through a a process of qualification and reeducation because, most of government employees should be fired.

That's just way you want to be as terrible as the people that are elected. Yeah. Those people. I'm like, oh, you got a job at the post office when you were 16 and now you're 106. Yeah. You're still it's you're still Eric, buddy. The problem is that's exactly what's happening. Even though they haven't shut up for work in 35 years. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's very much like office space. It's. Why? My checks keep coming. What? I don't know. Just the way it works.

Government is not efficient which is why Eli. Because there's no incentive for government to be efficient. And you know why. There's no incentive for spending your money not mine. Not only that there's my buddy to be part of the reason. But no, the real reason is because they can borrow money.

What really needs to have happened very early on back when, you know, maybe not year one, but certainly in the in the founder stages of the country is they needed to pass a government shall never borrow money amendment to the Constitution. If the government only survives on the money that it has in the bank, you would have to start becoming efficient. True, you would have no other choice.

But because the government operates like a teenage girl and spends money thinking it comes from magic, well, her father wants to go say, the football coaches, Amex card that he gave her, things. Yeah. So it's they they have no connection between what they spend and what the government actually has. Yeah. Money is not real to them. No, it's not real to them because, Yeah, it's a it's not only is it a number, but it's a number with no consequences. Right. Nobody went wow. What?

We went from 1 billion to 1 trillion. Oh, shit. We better do something. They went, wait, but we can keep borrowing more. Yeah, they're like the the habitual gambler who's losing it every week. Yeah, exactly. And, we owe more money. And I was historically, you could say, to China, but China has actually divested itself of an awful lot of American debt. It's bad debt. It's not. It's not debt that's likely to ever get repaid at this point. That's why they're just buying up all of our farmland.

That's a much better deal. Oh yeah. Yeah. Then they could at least sell it back to somebody if they have to. You know, you can rent it back to America. Oh, that's even before China owns 98% of America. Yeah. You know, they we feared Japan was going to do this back in the 90s when they bought the Empire State Building that nobody paid attention. Well, no. Then, all their investment started going belly up because, because of inflation, the value of all these things was greatly reduced.

And Japan lost big time and its American investments and ended up selling most of these. And it's not like the country of Japan was doing this, just Japanese people doing this. But, they ended up selling the vast majority of investments in them in American large infrastructure things. Now, can you just imagine if somebody of the Treasury was smart enough? I mean, great, yeah, one person couldn't do this.

But can you imagine if the United States, when Bitcoin crashed down to 4000 a couple of years ago, if they would have just gone. You know what? Let's put a trillion in here. Let's see what happens. You know, are there trillion Bitcoin I don't know I mean there are but $1 trillion in the bitcoin of bitcoin okay. By $1 trillion in Bitcoin. Wait for it to go up from that 4000 to 100,000. I think this is just a scam by you to get rid of your can down to Cardano, to the U.S government.

I would love to sell my Cardano to the US government, but I noticed when the price dropped, the percentage dropped of the you know the fed cut the rate. Yeah, I lost about a grand in crypto overnight. It's like this is not something that is disconnected. I know we've talked about this a lot. Everybody that was like, oh, it's going to be a hedge for inflation.

It's going to be in case the blah blah, blah, whatever happens in the United States or whatever happens in the world, currency, Bitcoin will always carry on. It's like, no, it's very, very, very tied to what's going on a bit. I've said this more than once in the past. I think even on this show that in my opinion, Bitcoin is only a hedge in the technologically connected, civilized world with no major wars. Oh yeah, because once the grid goes, any of those other things change.

More civilized Western and it is no longer a hedge because it becomes worthless. It's a number in a computer. It's funny, the same people that talk about how bad fiat currency is and and how, you know, you're just trusting a number in the computer, right? Right. Are the first ones to line up for numbers and computers for Bitcoin when it's like, dude, the only real currency that is actually worth something always is led in specific shape. Yeah. Well, yes. Don't worry.

You know that you need your lead to protect your gold. Yeah, but the gold is worthless. Ultimately, if it comes down to it, people will be spending gold for lead in equivalent weights. Now, here's the thing. Isn't the cryptocurrency market really helping people that want to, say, migrate from one shitty country into the United States? Yeah, there's a way to bring all of their money. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

You know, it's just one thing where there's several groups of people, there's the buy and hold people like me. Oh, because why not? Might as well. And then there are the day traders that are making bank and doing day trading transactions in crypto. Yeah, I've thought about that because they're all under 25. So you're a little too old for that I know, but when will we be able to now that we know both, Claude and ChatGPT have interfaces that can't interact with my computer?

Well, all you need to trade crypto is access to your computer. When will I be? Well, I you probably could do this already. Just teach the AI. There are several AI funds out there. I traded funds that that both do cryptocurrency. They do money market they do. And just look for a, a a, a controlled fund. You can get into it. And they historically have performed better than human funds because I like the AI. But they're not just go crazy high.

You might get like a 12% return on your money because they still buy plenty of shit that goes down. Well. I would like it to do is have it kind of no. Oh, the downward trend has just begun on crypto because we all know Bitcoin. All the other crypto is pretty much the same. They go up, they dip, they go up, they dip. It's not a straight line up it it's not a straight line down right. So if you could just program what we know what the dip is started.

So sell the minute we see the dip going back up by you, you could automate that. You could probably make a lot of money. Yeah, yeah. It's, it's gambling. Well, no, it just anything you can think of has already been done. Been done by professionals that make an extremely good living off of trading. And, so.

You know, whatever conversations there are about people making too little money or how the government's average salary is now crossed over into six figures, the average for government employees is now over $100,000, which is insanity. Why the government can't afford to pay its bills? Well, that's because the government, unlike the private sector, is immune from from everything from inflation, from any kind of downturns. Economically, they give raises every year, no matter what.

And now they've gotten themselves into a position where the average salary is over $100,000. And there are plenty. I watched a video where they read off a list of government jobs that pay over $200,000. A lot of them, you would never think, pay over $200,000. But they do. These are like middle management positions, the ones that are probably not even going into an office at this point. Probably not. Yeah, working from home, man. I'm sitting at home. I'm watching my YouTubes.

I'm collecting my salary. Well, there's nothing wrong with that per se. Plenty of people work from home, but they do work them. But they actually do work, don't you? Or do you just play video games while you're like, a client paying me $500 an hour? I am working really hard. And by working hard, you mean I am thinking about a concept while I just do my best thinking. But I need to stop talking before, they say something that they shouldn't say means like, do not tell my secrets.

No, but there are. There are plenty of people in the government that are grossly, grossly overpaid for what they're doing. And again, it's very often I think the cases you mentioned, which is somebody started got a government job either at 18 or when they came out of the military in their 20s or something, and they just never left. And this is this is literally the example of the type of person that's in that's the main character in Idiocracy.

Yeah. Is a very middle of the road underachiever that is just got himself a government job and he's happy of not advancing. He doesn't want to be a leader. He's just happy to be a follower. And, just purely by being there long enough and getting pay raises every single year, even when the private sector doesn't do that because the economy is worse, you end up in a position where you make more working for the government.

I remember back, this would have been probably 15 years ago, maybe 20 years ago. I knew a good chunk of government employees in the Secret Service and the FBI and, and back then, you were being investigated. That was what those were? No, I was I was I was a lot more.

How do I phrase this? I gave a lot of speeches. I gave presentations to people. And, back then, like, those were the hundred thousand, 120, $540,000 job. Now those are $200,000 job. You want to hate Trump you? I work for the FBI. All right. Starting salary, 200 grand. I mean, that's not literally the case, but if you've been there long enough, you're absolutely making 200 grand. Would you be get it? Not it's not a felony has nothing to do with it. You know, I was like, go away baiting him.

He's like, don't want anybody that's not doing the job. They can make him the speaker of the House. You know they can. I know that is hilarious. They're never going to do it. They will never put somebody who's not been elected as a speaker. But they could do do. Hilarious. It would be hilarious. But so far, everybody who is Trump is pushing forward, is, dropping out. And why is that? Because everyone at some point has had sex, right? Is this like that? That's the general answer.

This seems to be exactly where you're going to get into trouble. I mean, there are even though Matt Gates has done the Homer Simpson backing into the trees and disappearing. But they're still going after him man. Oh. Oh yeah. Feel sorry for that guy. Yeah I mean the thing that's stupid is that he quit his job as soon as Trump appointed him without waiting to be confirmed by Trump. Why would you quit your current job.

You know, and I thought maybe there was a little quid pro quo going, and they knew they weren't going to get him through, but that's what he was going to get. You know, these open Senate seat. I thought maybe there was a deal made there. Yeah, maybe. But now it appears he's just going to be a news guy. He's just screwed. Yeah, but he'll still be making more than we do. Speaking of people who don't make getting money, I do want to say, the the booster grabs are open, and, Scott really?

Yeah. Scott from Oxfordshire, UK came in with ten bucks this week and said Happy Christmas, a new year. Thanks for the sanity. Yeah, that money that is it. That is it. $10. And I thought way more people would come in. When you announced that you didn't want any of the donations from this month, that that was just, that was just all to go to me and to my little Christmas fund. And somebody did said, back to my, random thoughts show. I like I still have my oh, that's not here a thing.

Well JH he sent in ten bucks to random Thoughts and he said, here's some money. Please give Jean two of these dollars for a new spaceship. I don't know how much he thinks you spaceships cost, but I think, I think he is slightly uninformed about the cost of spaceships, my friend. It's like $2. Jean can't even upkeep a spaceship for one day in his virtual hangar. This is a brand new spaceship that just came out yesterday. The same game as watching a video or adding more.

Oh yeah. Yeah, they keep saying it. Well, it depends on which game. So for the main game that I've been playing a lot and the one that I'm doing on my YouTube videos on, well, no, that's no, that's the expensive one. So so Elite Dangerous, which I finally got Ben to install on his computer. But Elite Dangerous is a game that is, celebrating its 40th anniversary. And, it's probably the one that I play the most. It's a absolutely beautiful game.

It is a 1 to 1 exact representation of our galaxy, the Milky Way. So there are billions and billions of stars and and billions and billions of planets. And you can go explore each one of them. Anything? Any one of them. Yeah, that's a pretty big game. And it's it's literally based on NASA data. So everything is as accurate as we know. The types of stars that are out there are correct. The games actually predicted things that they've discovered later.

But anyway, in that game, they've just this year started selling spaceships. They used to be like most games where you earn things in the game. So this year they finally wised up a little bit and decided, oh, we could make additional money for the company by selling spaceships. So they're selling those spaceships for about 25 bucks apiece. It's not too bad. Depends what people will buy them. Yeah, well, plenty of us buy them. That's reasonable. And you can still get them in game.

Like you don't have to buy them. You just get them two months early if you buy them when the new ones release. Oh, well, you want you want to be the cool kid cruising up and down the galaxy in the in the cool spaceship. Exactly. The other game that you mentioned, Star Citizen. They've been selling spaceships for 13 years now, and they're in Alpha, and they're now for now. What were they before they were in Alpha? They were pre-alpha. Act on the alpha. Yeah, that's there.

Yeah, that's that's a, a bit more of a skimming game. But those spaceships, like the new ones just came out yesterday, which is a one man fighter, is $260. The ship that came out earlier last month, called the Polaris, which was a sounds like a hot tub. It's a very, large torpedo bomber kind of thing. It's like a player. It's more like a submarine. It's the idea. But it launches these massive torpedoes that are the size of a small fighter, and there's massive damage that is nearly $700.

Oh, is that all? Well I would jump right out of that one that, not only that but it requires a minimum crew of three. So you have to have two friends. I mean you have to hire friends to play with you which you know I've tried to do that. You gotta wait wait wait wait wait. Are you saying that the space ship will not work? Yeah. If you don't have two other people connected as well? It depends on what you mean by work. Like, can you get in it and turn the engines on and and take it up by yourself?

Yes, but you won't be able to do anything else. All the operational controls and engineering controls and missile controls are all done by other people. Omega project feels that for that price, it should come with friends. I know right that that just seems wrong. So they hire some guy out in the middle of nowhere, you know, and this is it for a job. This is a major controversy in that game right now because you are looking for crew members like that's that's an interesting idea.

I've never thought about getting on Fiverr for that. Put a Fiverr ad, looking for, crew members to, fly my spaceship paying $5 per crew member per hour. This is a great deal because you could do less than minimum wage on Fiverr, right? No. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Good deal. Well, yeah, because there's people all over the world. I mean, there's no minimum wage and you know Bangladesh. Sure. That's a good point. That's a very good point. So fiber gets around the minimum wage laws.

Yeah. To make this thing. Yeah. So the prices and stuff is insane. That game and the whole like oh now you need friends is a lot of people don't like that. Like you can imagine people that play games, you know don't have a lot of friends. Well no, it's just they've spent their time honing their skills with joysticks instead of their lingual skills. In conversation with humans. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

So and that's why it takes people like me who have those skills, who also doesn't have any friends. I have way too many friends. What are you talking about? I get invited to shit all the time. I just don't go. Interesting. I just pulled up the, The motion said an invite from Adam on Monday. I didn't go it for I was like, please, Gene, do not show up to that show that I was at a musical event thing promoting the oh, the booster Graham ball. Yeah, that was I was I was supposed to be at that. Yeah.

A good time was had by all. It sounds like it. Adam said it one turn out really good and especially with the amount of money that was collected. So that was good. He had a bunch of bands played, I think, you know, if you would. It all came down to it. I thought the amount of stats that came in was worth about five grand, which for unsigned bands for a few hours. That's not bad. Yeah. And I'm trying to figure out here, I just pulled up in a bunch of different browsers.

The, the mode two interface. Yeah, in the interface comes up, but it's not, live, I guess would be the best way to put this. Meaning the meters aren't showing anything. Nothing killing though. Oh, you might need to refresh. Flashes. It's a little weird, right? I mean, well, yeah, it's the first time I've seen this happen. It's like everything comes up. I see that when I go into the device, it does show my microphone going into the output settings.

It shows the headphones in the main and going to that sounds fine. So everything like that. The routing part works when I go to the routing that's all lighten up. But the mixing it part nothing. It's like it's like then I wonder if I do, I if I, if I mute myself here, dude, let's not fuck with it during the show is doing anything when I do this is that bad? Is that screwing with the sound? Did you was that going in and out or. No, maybe it was.

Now you're just doing the Dvorak because that's a completely different interface. I can see you stop talking. But if I do go like this. So you hear me? Yeah. See, that's doing nothing. So the mute hear nothing either. Yeah, that's that's all right. Let's, worry about that crashing. You know what I do need to do today? So why don't you give me a holler after you're done with lunch? Is I need to transfer the bitcoin before the damn thing shuts off. Oh, you got your lightning there going. Hey, man.

Well, you could again, you could use CSB was talking with, your buddy who doesn't donate because he hates, you know, when I was talking to Nick, the rat. Nick the rats, my buddy. Now what? No, the other guy, but the Nick the rat is in New York. And he was like, hey, I was going to move. He wanted to move to the obviously the I'll be wall wood thing that we have talked about. Yeah. He wants to move his lightning. He's like, I'm going to get a wallet from I wasn't one of these other.

Yeah I'm going over. Yeah. Right. And he's like I you ordered to move. I don't know why he wanted to move them into Coinbase first. But I guess Coinbase they're going to tax him. No one if you're in New York they won't even allow you to do lightning. It's like against the law or something. So out of his Coinbase it's like you cannot do it. It's like well you don't need to one you don't need to send your lightning to Coinbase to just go get the other wallet and do it directly.

If you need something as an intermediary. Yeah. Use bolts. If you have a actual unchained bitcoin wallet that just convert your lightning into actual bitcoin and you'll be golden. But this concept now of these services. Which is why besides the fact that if it's not your wallet, if it's not on your machine, it's not really your father's, because you disappear. Yep. This also then adds way more credence to you. See how easy it is for a government entity to fuck with your crypto?

And I have no idea what would have happened if Nick the Rat or anybody in New York had a bunch of lightning on Coinbase, and then it became illegal for New Yorkers to use it, then what do they I would hope they give you a chance to, extract the funds, but I'm not really sure. What. No, they're your legal funds, right? It's like that. We're just going to keep those. That's how the government is going to pay all their taxes. Yeah. You know, I'll pay off all their debts.

Just like what you saw that they've used the Bitcoin that they stole from the guy here in Austin that was running good road. So. Well that would make sense because they're saying that was all ill gotten gains. Yeah. But they've been they've been sitting on I mean the assumption was that they destroyed it. But no they just started using it. Oh no. How much Bitcoin will we thought it had to be a decent amount is millions millions and millions. Yeah. And where is it going now.

This you just assume this is going to be like dark money that that is you know, they're not like using this to pay down the, the I think it's mostly Christmas gifts for the FBI employees. Oh, we're the ones that hate Trump. They get the biggest. Yeah, they get the biggest kickback. This is, very strange with the with the motive, but I digress. Yep, yep. Yeah. I don't know why. Sometimes things work and sometimes they don't. It could be your eyes to. Oh no, I can I can see that part.

And it just, it's just like it's dead. It is dead. It is totally dead. Yeah. They don't know why everything seems to work, so that's good. Oh. But for whatever reason, the the mixer. No. Mixy. Oh, you don't want to ask these kind of questions during the show. I mean, it's working fine. I don't know what else we need to mix. When you making a bread or something, you remember just the power and water, just the volume level a little bit.

But that's okay. I don't need to do it there. Oh, it was just the first time I've seen. I tell you, I'm learning more. And, I mean, I should go back to windows. Man. Apple sucks. Okay, I'm learning more about, doing the video editing again, which I used to do like five, six years ago and then used to do like 15 years ago. I it's like a cyclical thing. You keep it, it seems to me. But it's every time it's a different software.

So that's more five years ago was the Adobe stuff, the 15 years ago was the Apple and now I'm getting better at DaVinci. DaVinci is really freaking powerful, man. I'm really liking DaVinci. And how long does it take to render out a video file on the Mac mini, which I'm not using a PC. Oh well, of course, there you go. I mean, why not a moron? Because I'm using a PC. Oh, I would, you know, the Mac mini was exactly. I would actually love to set up the Mac mini as the renderer.

I just need to have a good means of sharing the files. I've been looking at some solutions there. Oh, I know, I am just drooling over the concept of a, all SSD NAS that's literally what I'm thinking of as well. Yeah, yeah, I'm like that. SSD prices are still coming down, which is good. You could get a four gig stick for about 220 bucks now, which is it for most of you? Get a couple of those. And that way you have some, you know, back up.

And then once you have more, you kind of put them into raid. Yeah. You don't really need backups for these things. I mean, I say that, you know, what was it saying? Just like I know when you say that, you look at the device and it's on fire and you're like, well, what? I mean, it's okay, but not in the same way as the regular drives which have mechanical spinning motors. And to fail. Or if you don't use them for long enough, they stick and then fail.

So the sticks tend to last a little longer than the, the old school drives. However, a getting a raid built, first of all, takes way less power than spinning disks. Oh yeah, way speeds are way faster. Size is way smaller, right? I mean, it's like it's all pros.

No cons, except for cost. Yeah. So while the cost is where it will get you, then they have some boxes that I've seen, Tara master and a few others that have both the old fashioned spinning drives and the SSDs, which, also kind of makes sense. We have. Yeah. I don't think that makes it's easier. We have plenty of NAS space for regular drives.

I just that issue is you really to do it in a the proper fashion, to do it where it makes sense doing that, where you just testing it, but where it makes total sense. You really need ten gig Ethernet and all the computers that are connected. But yeah, would you otherwise you'd bottleneck. Otherwise you're still slowed down by the network and the speed of your SSD is never going to get realized

because normal hard drives are quick enough. So. Or you also have the opportunity to do a Thunderbolt X, you know, as long as you're depending on, how far the machines are that you want to, share between, I don't know if any of those allow you to connect to two different devices at the same time using Thunderbolt. Like, can you connect the windows machine and a mac to the same? No device like that.

There's a few different few, narcissists or hard drives that I've seen that that have two connections that kind of theoretically do it, but it's not at the same time. It's one at a time. So. So yeah, I get it. You're going back and forth. Yeah. You're going back and forth. And I don't know if you could plug in a Thunderbolt two Thunderbolt connection without using Ethernet conversion at any point. That would be super fast. But my guess is that would also require like a couple of $500 cards.

So yeah, everything that says Thunderbolt on it is praised. Ten acts of USB. Oh yeah, I got to be quick baby. It's big, it's quick. So I think the quickest to the quickest practical solution that's like $5,060 is is five gig Ethernet, ten gig Ethernet, usually a little over 100 bucks, but that's still way cheaper than anything having to do with Thunderbolt. Yeah, I'm still cheap, but I'm at the 2.5 max at this point. So yeah, that's where I'm at.

I mean, I've got two five built in, all my devices, so that's easy enough because I don't have to spend any money out. Yeah, I'm just getting a couple of, 2.5 switches. All my switches have just been gig, so I'm upgrading though. Yeah. And I'm hoping that gets me a little bit better bandwidth down to the NAS devices in the basement. Yeah. Opening up that pipe even though they're probably one gig.

Yeah. No nicks but I think just having that extra bandwidth, being that there are multiple NAS systems down there or I know some of those old, even the older NAS systems, like with the double.

Yeah, a bit NAS I think you can you can bond them. Now with that, you could probably that just plug each that like ten years ago. I had that with my old Mac trashcan Mac the 10,009 one. Oh yeah. The one that they just really screwed you up. Well, I mean, for about a year, it was. Did you get your $10,000 worth? I sold it for two and a half grand, so no. What does 7500 divided by 365 down to? Okay. This is this is roughly at the same time that I also had a, life convertible that I was leasing.

Yeah. What about the recovered amount did you have that? Was that the convertible? Yeah. Had the rebounding bike to back. Yes, yes. The convertible was, recumbent bike, but no, I got about as good a deal on that. I paid 30 grand for two years, and I did 6000 miles total and then sold it for 10,000. No, I didn't sell it. I gave it back the lease, like $30,000 lease. Wow. So that was not a great deal. Yeah, well, dollar per mile was dollar per mile was like five bucks or more.

I am so fucking cheap, man. With the tires and I, I enjoy. I got it out of my system. When, you know, when I hit, I think it was about 25, right? When we got married, the wife and I. That Gene and I were not married, believe it or not. Got the Camaro, you know, with the big eight cylinder engine in it and rode that thing and finally just got rid of it a couple of years ago once the eyes blew out. Because, I mean, really, you don't lock me in a fast car with the, I don't want you in any car.

Actually, that's the bigger cars are fine. I mean, you put me in it way. Really works way. They kind of drive themselves. I mean, it's great. I mean, not at all, but. Okay, the old. That's why you always see the old people in the big Buick. It's like driving by Braille. It's fine. Nothing bad can happen. Especially now that there's snow on the streets. Oh, God, I know. Yeah. So you're housebound now? Yeah, more or less. That's the fun of the winter, though.

Just stay in and podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now I did. I could upgrade my switches. Let's see if I can get to you. I had I bought a 2.5 card like six months ago, a year ago for the PC because Xfinity upgraded us past the gig. And I was like, I want to see the full speed. And now I'm back to a gig in the, to the mini because I'm like, I'm not spending the money. I don't know why you didn't just buy them, upgrade to the ten gig network on it. Probably should have, but I wasn't sure.

I was only 200 bucks a year being chintzy. It's only only. Well, it also wasn't available quickly, and I wanted to get it quickly. Oh my God. And I did also get a external dock. Whatever you want to call these things. Yeah. Does that have it? It does have a 2.5 so I can plug into that. So it's got two and a half. It just left and it'll just go through the Thunderbolt port which is fine. Yeah. Yeah. No that's plenty quick. Plenty quick for conversion to ten gig Ethernet.

But I think ten gig easier. That would be sufficiently quick enough to where I could do the editing on one machine and then the rendering on a different machine. The renderings are horrible. It is definitely not instant. So I just I've now got some stats on that so I can render a 4K video at roughly double speed on the PC. So you got two hours of video. It's one hour. It's one hour rendering. Yeah, exactly. If it's 1080p video, it's about to probably about six to 6 to 7 times quicker.

Yeah. So you're like 60 minute video would take about ten minutes. And that was when our buddy band Drew Scott that does the van drew and the band says and all that. He upgraded his. I think it was about a 5 or 6 year old Mac. Yeah, to the Mac, the M1 Stu Dio. And he said the jump in speed was a wash because he started doing 4K video. So he's like the rendering times were exactly the same on 4K as the old machine was doing in ten ADP.

Well and I'm using a at this point now a four year old PC to do this. Well the video card is what to do with the heavy lifting that it is for your card. Yeah, but it's, but it was $1,000 for your video card. Yeah. So that'll that'll help a little bit there. Yeah. Well, that's actually a good question. I should try it on my 480 video card in the laptop and see if that same speed or faster or slower, see what does it best. Yeah it is. That's a good question.

I've got I mean, I could totally do everything on the Mac. I guess I could just copy the raw video to the Mac. That would be the slow bit and, and do everything on the Mac as well, because the Mac's also got a, 47 inch monitor on that, because I just don't want to edit it on the small screen. I just want to edit on the big screen. But on the Mac, allegedly with all of the GPU cores, is supposed to be built specifically for like, encoding video.

Well, I've got on the M2, you got to them for oh, maybe I got the for. Yeah, yeah. You got a little you got a little M4 envy do you there Gina. No, not at all. I mean, the Mac is doing exactly what it's supposed to be, which is being on 24 seven and working once a week as, a clean feed computer. Yeah, I just found, amphetamine for the Mac, which is good. What's that do? It keeps the thing away. Because I noticed this the other day. I was installing something.

Whatever it was, because I like using homebrew and Mac. Whatever. So. And it was going through, like, the old fashioned, like, you know, updating my Raspberry Pi where it goes in and it's downloading and installing all these packages and it's takes to doing that. And then I walked away and I came back to the computer and then it just started back up. It's like the computer went to sleep and stopped doing what it was fucking doing. It's like, I don't want that.

I want like the windows machine, maybe, where if I walk away, it just you're you're completely sucking your Mac up. I can tell I already know it's your Mac does not need all these stupid programs. You keep putting on it. You have no idea all of that is built in. I always have a much greater idea than you of what I'm talking about. The Mac will stay awake if you change the goddamn preferences. You don't need to install software to keep it awake. That's the reality. Amphetamine.

Maybe it'll turn the monitors off, but leave everything else running. Yeah, it's built in. No it's not. It's literally what I've been doing for years. Stop built in it. Stop being absolutely insane. No it's not. I believe you're wrong. Well, I know I'm right. So I went to grab most. Most anyway. Sorry. Absolutely correct. The trolls are, trolling along here at no agenda. That stream. Like, you need to get some better kind of window management thing for so x. Well, Yeah. Already said.

Did I get one? Yeah. I, the interface does suck. That's the one thing that I really hate with file management. Oh, Membros is ice wing. I believe you're wrong. Were you windows? It was great. I love directory open. It's one of the best programs. It was a program that I actually bought on windows, which is a rarity and had continued paying throughout the years. And that is the biggest thing that I'm missing from the Mac is a file manager, a file manager, baby, what was file manager?

It was FTP. It was, you know, a perfect shitty FTP. What? I use a file zilla, which is working. It's similar. Yeah, but do the FTP does the same thing? It's like same exact. It was a great it was a tabbed thing if you wanted, if you had a bunch of photo galleries. I mean, it just did everything well. And if you wanted to launch a new window, you just double click anywhere on an empty desktop and it just that is horrible UI up. It's it's not work that way. No. It was it's the best.

You're like a crippled person complaining that regular stuff built for regular people is bad though. It's what everybody wants. Mandatory. Oh no, but it's the best file manager ever created and everything is so clunky for the Mac. Even the one like this. Hilarious talking to you between you and and bam doing that many bad. Oh, that guy is always right. I love dude named bad name, but well, he he doesn't want any of the crap you're talking about. His his comments right now.

If we were talking and be like, the hell do you need that crap for? You got command line. They do uses command line command to go into the command line. They're like, you don't. That's normal. People don't do that shit. You don't go in the command line with the command line where the power is, baby. It gets done. Either one of you people need any of this crap. Just use the computer as it's mean. I even have a little command line script now, the white DLP, which is freaking awesome.

I have now integrated that because the one thing that I don't does this existed windows. If it does not have that person, I never fucking figured it out. The Automator Automator feature the app that, Apple comes with is freaking awesome. So I went into the Automator and added it to the services, the white DLP, which I use, and I have all the settings for the best audio, you know, get rid of the video. I just want the audio. Is that a YouTube Steeler program? It is a YouTube downloader.

I pay for YouTube premium, so I'm not going to feel bad about downloading from YouTube. And now where I had been when like a request came in, say, for a song that I wanted to, download and I'd have to take that you are rarely that's to open up the terminal window, which I know you hate. And then I would have to give the command, you know, white DLP, blah blah blah, URL, blah blah blah. Save it here, blah blah blah, audio quality, blah blah blah. And then it would download it.

Yeah, a clean I just use a browser for that. Now it's integrated into the Mac system. So whether it's a URL in an email I can now right click it, hit services and then click download. And it will do it. And I can do that now just by clicking in the address bar as well right clicking. And then send it to white DLP. And it downloads it. I don't have to do anything. It's already there. It's already set up. It's beautiful. Way. Thorne says Power Automate for windows is usually included.

A new install. See this is something I never knew. And it's the way to automate this kind of stuff as you said I mean this I'm assuming that if I really looked into this, there would be a way to automatically have it generate the tweet, generate the message to the fed, a version to launch the mix program, maybe even rename the live stream for whatever show it's going to be. Automation is where it's at, and I've just never really figured it out with anything.

It's always like doing it over and over. I need more automation in my life. Yeah. Automations. Again. I don't use automation because I don't write software that proficiently, but, there's a lot of things you could use automation for when you want to like go to unrelenting boom. You can have one button that will launch your browser, that will tweet everybody that you're following you. The three people on in your case that they the show is going live.

It can, you know, open up your interface, whatever it needed to do for doing the show. And then it just does it. You do plenty of things. I mean, I know you're just usually playing video games now, but automation. Yeah, I don't I don't know, man. I just if I want to snag a YouTube video, which I don't do nearly as often, the zero obviously, but I just use a browser plug in for that, then it just download it. That's for suckers, man. Well, see you. I do a show that's a clip show as well.

So it is very useful program and it works the way most people do lip shows. If they use YouTube clips is they open up 8 or 9 windows. Now you everything up those and have it all sitting there. And that's exactly how dude, I watched him cast. Okay, I know exactly. Yeah. And he uses the video. I mean that's not what I do. We use just the audio. Yeah. And the reality is, the white DLP works well beyond YouTube. It works on Fox News.

So if I'm on the Fox News site and there's a video and I'm like, dad, I want to use that clip now, I can just right click and centered white DLP and it will just save the audio file from that video. It is quite useful. But I know you don't do a clip show, but you do a show with dude named Bad Name, but that guy seems like he knows what he's talking about. There. Okay. Is he on the Mac mini now? No, no, he's got a mac laptop for work, and, he loves it.

He's, a bitches about the interface all the time. Like, why does this work? Like windows, but no Linux. Linux. Remember? He's a nice guy. Oh, he. But all Linux are so different. I don't even know how you can complain. I just keep always telling. Just use the command line. Dude, I don't know what you're doing. My main interface with command line is good.

I mean, I did have that working with, windows which if you haven't done so as of yet, if you are a windows user I would highly recommend adding, this is just a Python thing. What is a Python. Oh well the wiki will be oh it works on windows. It works everywhere. I mean, of course you have to then install a Python script. So I mean, it's it's not that hard to do. It works on everything because it's Python. Everybody loves Python baby. You know why?

DLP it is exactly what you need if you want to download, especially if you want to like separate the audio, have the choice of what kind of resolution you want. But I would highly recommend for windows users to download Powertoys as it comes directly from Microsoft. Believe it or not. And it's one of the useful things that Microsoft has, which means it doesn't come with windows by default because it actually works.

So I was, have been very used to the and now the only slight difference is now, rather than hitting the alt spacebar, which you do with powertoys to open up the little window to, you know, the little prompt box, rather to type what you want. Now it's the Mac spacebar. And then the little thing comes up for the spotlight search. You can just type in, you know, if you want to launch mics, you pop that, you do okay, boom mics. And then it prefilled. You hit enter and the thing pops up.

I mean, that's about as close to a lot of people ever want to be using the command line. But it's way more convenient if you know what you want to run rather than people that still go. I mean, do you still anybody know anybody that still goes to like a start menu and like, where's the where's the icon? Where's the app? But you launch apps. I just told you I type something in to launch an app that seems like way too much motion. You had to just click an icon. Are you fucking high by any chance?

So rather than rather so you would rather you, you click the little, the launch pad and then you find the icon that you're looking for. You find they're all on there all the time. How many pages are you looking for? Three pages. Yeah, I have eight pieces of software. That's all you have on the back. What else do you need, man? I don't load a bunch of crap to keep my Mac or my Mac awake. You tell me you do. You're not doing it right.

I find it to be much easier to just go, like, okay, so I want to launch, you know, Chrome, it's already launched. So you hit the Mac space bar. Boom. And there it refills Chrome. You hit enter Chrome loads. I mean, that's way faster than looking for any guess. Safari. What do you need Chrome for? I ever used Safari, man. Safari sucks. I do that, use Safari. I use Thunderbird for email because I oh my bird, oh my god.

Now I have the bridge installed for proton mail and I've been using proton mail. Now I love me some proton mail. Now that proton means kit. I've been using that since I started the whole searching thing. Yeah, you got to get rid of Google, the proton mail, the pro version. The thing that really sold me on it was one for the Pro version. They give you 500 gig of online or overall storage. So I mean that's your email plus whatever else. And it's nice to be able to store some files in the cloud.

Two, it has a password manager if you want to use it. I have to test it because I've been using robo form for like 20 years. Yeah, and that's what I do. It works. It's easy and it works on every this memorize passwords stuff. I love memorizing random. Okay, if you can tell me without cheating, you know, a 30 digit non, you know, not a, just a random password. No one gives a shit about getting into your account. You don't need a three digit random number pad. Everybody does.

You gotta have random and it's all brute force. You're avoiding the dude. But you are horrible. Is computer security. Membros is like screaming at the monitor right now. He's like, this guy is an idiot. He doesn't know what he's talking about. You need a password manager. Although he's not the password that says Jean isn't a power user. Well, see, that is true. No, I'm an actual user. You don't have a password manager. Literally. What do you. You don't know? I use my brain.

I don't just have a password manager. So all of your passwords are like spaceships. One, two, three. No, they're all at least 30 characters. Spaceships, spaceships, one. Two, three. There may be. I mean, there is something to say about the, you know, the length of the simplicity and that. And what makes you think my passwords are in English culture? They could most do while brushing.

So now we know to open up the Russian dictionary in the, Jack the Ripper software folks, and, and go to town on searching, see if you can get into, just uses the same dictionary word for every password. That's what Pembroke suggests. I mean, that's because he's trying to hack you. But I mean there's besides that, besides that everybody needs a password manager. But that's part of absolutely not ProtonMail. Only dumb people do.

And the thing that really sold me, well, besides the fact that you could also use three different addresses from three different domains. So I mean, if you wanted to pull in, you know, Darren, at random thoughts, Darren at Planet Rage and yeah, you know, it will do that too. Well, it was a slightly less, permanent way. Google will allow you to for word, although unless you're talking about their paid service. Well, you're paying for this earth. Yes. I don't mean with Google.

You're paying with all of your data, but I really like that they will let you generate a unique email address as many as you want. That has nothing to do with your current address. So it's not just like, you know, surging plus, but at whatever totally different. It would be a completely unique address. And they let you generate as many of those as you want, which is the selling feature, because I'm tired of getting fucking spam. I'm tired of the fucking retarded people. I don't get spam.

Of course Jesse doesn't either. And the problem is my email addresses have existed for so long. Yeah, and I also have now confirmed, and I really don't know what I should do, if anything, but I have tracked down because of purchases made by a Darren O'Neal and fucking there's, I think, one in, Denver land. There's one in the UK, there's one in Dublin, there's one in housing. All of those are just shockers in there.

But see what they all think they're fucking email address is my Google address because they've used it. Right, right. And that's like I just want to fuck with people that do that because it gets really annoying. Well, you should, and it's like, what do you do once you have? Because, you know, receipts come through this time of year, like, like you for your order of whatever, it will be shipped here. It's like, oh, now I know where you live, motherfucker.

But how do you utilize that to, to mess with somebody. I guess that's how you mail the company back and say you changed my, you have the wrong address and the address isn't actually here in Chicago. Yes, please. It's up here. Yeah, exactly. That's a great idea. What if I can do that? I did that with, I think it was Tim who was team. Who is one of these places you can order shit from? Like, it's like the chain. I've seen way too many of their ads, but I would never order. Oh, I wouldn't either.

But the dude in, Oh, I don't remember if it was UK or the Aussie dude. One of them ordered from Teemu. And because of that, I was able to reset the password. Nice and log in. And here's the thing. Teemu was nice enough, to store his credit card. Perfect. Yeah. All right, so I ended up buying, and it was just bizarre shit, like g-strings and, like, weird pants. Like sweat pants. I just put a bunch of things in the cart and, like, bought it, okay? And he was not very happy when he got.

That's how you know, he wasn't happy. Because, I was able to see they were still keeping my address in with the support and was going back and forth. It was great. It was fun. How is he? He changed his credit card number two, which was hilarious because Teemu didn't actually show me his credit card number. It was just it was stored. So I was able to buy things through them. So he probably thought he got. Heck yeah. Yeah, I just you should have sent them on demand.

I, I have seen the videos of you joking off. It's weird because yeah, this is, this is what I love about, cyberpunk 2077. Speaking of other games, is that on the computers in that game, if you go to people's emails there, there's some useful emails as well for the game, but there's tons of spam like that. Like, I have been monitoring your video camera and I know what you've been doing. Yes. I, I don't have a video camera, though. I know that's the best part. Right?

Well, as I say, I have the videos recorded so you can. Oh that's funny. Computer does that one. You know what your answer is? Holy shit. Thanks, dude. I lost my copy. Can you send it out? Right. You like, post those to YouTube for me and just send me a link? Thanks. The scams are interesting, which is another reason why having the proton mail, you know, if it's the right email address. If a company send you an email, you use one

you one unique alias for everything. Oh my god, you're now repeating what I've been saying for a decade and you just argue with me and then proceeds to argue with me about. I would never argue with you about that. You should always have a separate email for every company you deal with. I agree, and I've been doing that for decades. That's why I don't have spam, because the greatest thing is, if you're fucking done with the company, you delete the email address

and you've got the block, the email address. Yeah. They're gone. So every everybody is a variant of their company name. Well, that's what I used to do. And I realized this is this is better than nothing. But it was still easily fucked with meaning. If somebody saw there are no nil plus Amazon at gmail.com, well then they might go, well he might be Darren O'Neal, plus Hulu, or he might be Darren O'Neal plus there. So you can't just use the name. You have to do something, but you don't use Gmail.

You just use just the name of the company. Not plus Darren O'Neal. What do you what to what email address is it going to you? I own domains, dude. I don't need to worry about what is in front of the name. You're like, I am Amazon agenda.com. Exactly, exactly. So why why even bother putting your name in there? You don't need your name there. And that's what Bill O'Reilly you know you know one of my don't make your email address. Yeah exactly. One of my domains is never spam that me? That's you.

That is a great fucking domain. How do I get an email of that? I can set one up for you. That's. I mean, I own domain, that's not a problem. But basically anybody that is a one off sign off that like, requires an email address. I just use that domain for it because that it's easy enough. The basically everything in there is going to be spam unless I'm looking for something specific that I just signed up for. Oh, you guys just got some spam there. I heard it coming through.

Yeah, I know I should probably turn that down, but it's, Is that one of your two friends that are on the spaceship waiting for you to a. Yeah, they're like, hey, man, were you, no, I think it's my food is probably going to be arriving any minute. I think my my food order is supposed to be here before the show ends. Oh. Nice slab of ribs. Yeah, something like that. January 2nd. Do I want to take the meeting on January 2nd? Or maybe I'll still sleep. That is like the first work day of the year.

What day of the week is that? That is a Thursday, right? Oh, yeah. The second is a Thursday. As as it's on a Friday, I guess I can take meaning. Oh, every Friday, bedtime. I'll take the meeting and we take it next week off that would make sense that like no you're not either. No, we're doing the show. As far as I'm concerned. This is my only means of making money right now. So we're doing the show now. You make $5 a day from YouTube. I do you like this is I finally hit the big time.

My job was you do $5 a day. Yeah. Make fun of it all you want. It literally requires me to do nothing but hit the record button when I'm done playing video games and doing other things in front of the camera. Now that that's not on YouTube doesn't mean I remember it says I podcast even if I don't have a co-host or a microphone. Whenever that connection to podcast.

Well, I mean, you're you're probably not going to be, you know, getting getting paid for ads if you don't have a microphone, an internet connection. Yeah. I'm not getting paid for ads here either. So my point is now some people have actually done this. I have never done this successfully, but some people's YouTube video channels are nothing more than them watching other people's YouTube channels and doing all the action. That's like, yeah, yeah.

So that's like next level three money because matter. Your job is to not create anything original, but simply to react to other people's creations. And then you get paid for it. The Reverend, which is insane, says we were getting paid for CSB ads for a while there, but then he he made KSP bad and it dried up the big it dried up the $3 a show that we were $3 a show. Oh, God. What are we going to do? I don't know, man, I don't know.

I mean, I hear in the past you have sent your co-host some just extravagant Christmas presents. And I'm like, well, I mean, maybe I heard wrong. I got some extravagant Christmas presents. I never sent any. Let's see. Next week we have Christmas Eve of the Tuesday. Yeah, merry Christmas on the Wednesday you got on Christmas turkey plans or what are you doing this turkey. Nothing. Beef tenderloin. Which, tender. Oh, interesting. That's, What's this? Face is doing the same thing.

My other co-host, dude named Ben named that. What makes sense? Because you're contagious. He was. He was telling me yesterday he's prepping the, bone in rib ribeye, you know? Yeah, bone and rib eye. Oh, that's like a prime rib, right? Right. Exactly. I was just doing the beef tenderloin. I mean, the prime rib, I know, but that's the part I prefers tenderloin myself. But he likes the rib eye more. And it's probably the second best piece of meat. You know, it's what my mom wanted.

Which also means I will be the one cooking it, because while my mom doesn't really cook. So, you know, but it's not hard. The only question becomes with a beef around there to to sear or not to sear, the searing is the biggest pain in the ass when you're dealing with like A67 pound tenderloin is totally not a pain in the ass. You have to have a really big pan. No, you just need a torch. Well, see, I don't have a torch, although I get hit by a torch for $12. Go get a nice butane torch.

Yeah, it's perfect cooking. It's $12. That would work on Amazon. Way better than probably $3 and ten mu. What's a sandwich? You never know what's going to be in it as a fuel. We're just spraying this kerosene. Taste good? Let me down. Yeah, yeah. All you got to do the torch is, get some butter, melt that butter and just pour it over the meat and then torch it. Torch that meat and you'll get a very nice little brown golden crust on there. Then you throw it in the oven.

And the only reason you want the butter is because the tender lines not fatty at all. If you're using a fatty kind of meat and like the, the ribeye, you don't need any butter, man. That's got a plenty of fat to melt when you're torching it. Yes. Which is also why you want to get a little bit of that. I mean, why you get the sear on most other cuts of meat. It's that nice, slow and low to get the inside where you want it. Yeah. Which I love. The, the more fatty cuts of meat.

But I understand you're more. You're a little more dainty. You like this like minion rather than the, the best part of I. Yeah, man. Exactly. I'm eating it straight off the deer. Would you go kill the deer now? Filet mignon? Yeah, the tenderloin. Deer tenderloin right off the carcass. It's not even rot. Nope. Don't need to be cooked. It's the most tender meat you can have that's not required cooking. I mean, but we will still cook hours a little bit.

I mean, we have to get that nice medium rare, I don't think. I don't think the rest of the family's quite ready for bloody rare, but but really it should be blue. It should. It should have that torch applied outside and, and, still cool to the touch inside. Wait. Dawn says the tenderloin doesn't need a sear. That much is correct. I think a big part of it will be the preparation. We are picking up the meat. You gotta pick up the meat on Monday. All right.

And then what my plans are would be to you know, unwrap it, get it nice and dry salted and then leave it in the refrigerator uncovered until it is cooked on the Wednesday, you know, salted. Well, you have to salt the outside. That'll dry it out. Right. Well, that's what you want to get a nice little crust on the outside. That's a waste of meat, dude. There is no outside. That's like, the whole thing is the same consistency, dude. Everybody's got to salt their meat. No. Definitely not.

You go look at every professional cook out there. They will tell you that he's a chef, worth his salt, but intended. You got to put the salt. And that also helps tenderize. Probably don't dude. You don't. Well you don't tenderize tenderloin. You don't. Even though you do yourself. I do I have than you ever done. I've done a month of nothing but tenderloin. You would to it 25 different ways with photos for a cookbook. I do okay I was in there. Mine is something I've cooked a lot.

I was going to ask me. And you can do a lot of things to it, but you don't really need to. What? Where is the cookbook? That sounds like a great idea. It's same place is my password. Know it's in your brain? It all sounds exactly. It kind of sounds very coming along. Like once. I like what he. Once I used to eat caviar with to once. No, I did this. So you remember. This is like three years ago. I did, like, two months of nothing but steak. You're carnivore.

But out of that two months, I did a month of nothing but tenderloin that met in the trailer. Mass is gene retarded. You have to salt meat. Oh my God. Yes, absolutely. Do not have to salt me. Know that you're brainwashed. Dude, you totally do not have to salt me. I love the show. It is so much fun. This is hilarious. Yeah we do. We usually provide cooking tips. I mean, that's right. Yeah, right down there, you little girl.

Yeah, you can do a lot of things to it, but you absolutely do not need to do it. You can sort of flavor if you like the salt flavor, you don't need to a lot of cultures don't. You salt there. And the tenderloin is a very unique piece of meat that is different from just about every other cut on the cow. And it does not require all these tender reservations that other cuts of meat do, because it doesn't have all that, you know, muscular, connective stuff with it.

I mean, I do understand that much I do. It is nice. It is a cut. It is similar to saying, things about raw fish sushi or sashimi actually, that oh, yeah. Well, you can't eat sashimi without soy sauce. Abso fucking lutely. You can. And the use of soy sauce is for a very specific reason. Traditionally, it's because the fish was off and you needed something to kill off that bad fish flavor, and that becomes part of the taste. But same thing with salt.

So it was a preservative, but people got used to the taste of salt because they got used to eating things that were preserved by using salt. You know, my favorite would be the hours cut over at Gibson's here in Chicago. Oh, let me finish up on salt. So like, my my dad is one of those guys that you've probably seen him in the movies when he gets a, steak before tasting it, the first thing he does is reaches over for the salt shaker and then just covers the thing.

So it's completely white on the outside, and then he actually tastes it. This is insanity. Yeah. Please. Yes, I would not. I mean, now salting it before cooking it, that's a little bit different. And I know there's a lot that the salt again is used to get you a nice dry exterior and there's people that will do the salting and then kind of brush the salt off that before cooking. It's only there to, do what it needs to do. But yeah, you don't want.

Oh, I've, I've cooked, really tasty salt encrusted halibut before, just so they have. Really good. But you don't need the salt. I mean, you know, you cook it in the salt, you bake it in salt. That says I use yellow mustard on pork. So I mean, there's yeah. That's good I like that it is the, very versatile. Oh. You don't think mustard go well together? Yeah. I mean, you don't need the fancy dish, though. Just a nice little generic yellow will do. Just fine.

Yeah I think well, I use the, it's a Russian mustard that's imported here. Well of course, the best for your mustard guys. I'm glad it gets you the, the best I know, I know, it's like that gets me the mustard. And he's not the same Vlad. That is the. It's different, but very different. Different. Vlad entirely. Yes. And then I have Igor for the cabbage, so. Yeah. Well, yeah, you have to. Yeah. The cabbage guy that he got a guy I need a pierogi guy.

If he's going to get through the holiday season. Well, it makes a great gift because it is, there's. You can freeze him. I mean, my bagel guy's late and shipping my bagels over. Oh, geez. Why? No, I was like, I thought I'd have them by Christmas, but apparently they're going to show up after Christmas. Does he from Brooklyn? Yeah. Then I get bagels shipped over. The only place to get your bagels? Yep. You're the cut. Chicago from Gibson's.

You can actually get a four pack sent to somebody for $287. Would you be for 22 ounce beauties, which was named for, the Chicago Tribune, a food critic at the time, William Rice. And he said, that sounds like bribery, a kind of, he said that the place should have its own signature steak in the mid 90s. I guess they didn't. So, interesting. It says we went to our meat purveyor and asked for a prime cut of. They got a meat guy, they got a meat guy. You got two. And it's a a bone in ribeye.

It says an unknown kind of meat at the time. There was a time kids. Wow. When a bone in ribeye wasn't a thing. Wow. These are just so good. They're so good at Gibson's in. It's because of the fat. I mean, it's a complete different experience when you compare it to a tenderloin filet. You're such a different experience. But delicious. Both are. Yeah. I, I'm like, I'll eat a prime rib. I just won't enjoy it as much as people that really like fatty meats.

And that is another one that is, unique, shall we say, because that's really fatty and is really fatty. And that was, Gibson's. I think I told the story here. Maybe it was over on another show. That my parents went to Gibson's with a friend of theirs. This guy, you know, was like 85. He was an old dude and he ordered the prime rib. Well done. I was like that's okay. It's wrong in so many ways I get it. Yeah. But they brought it out and he was like, no, it's still not well-done.

So they took it back and they came out again. Oh, I know, and, they did. He did it again. And, then then they finally got it to his liking and then they wouldn't charge him for it. And he's like, why aren't you charging before the wall? Because we didn't get it right. It's like, well, okay. I mean, I get it. Well, that and the fact that somebody just took their shoes apart and then gave them the sole, and then he ate it.

And so they felt bad about charging him for it, because whoever would shoot somebody, the guy. And the interesting thing there is, I fully understand it. I thought it was hilarious that, you know, the chefs, the cooks in the kitchen. Yeah. No, not me. Never. It was just. Yeah, yeah. Like, no, no, somebody wants to ruin their food. That's fine. I don't have a problem with that. But it's, But, you know, any liability thereof would disappear. I would absolutely charge them full price for that.

Yeah, he wanted them to, but they. Yeah. This is why Gibson's is known as a, a top of the line kind of a place. Yeah. Pride themselves on getting you what you want and. Yeah, I get it. That's good. Their desserts. Oh, my God, their desserts are fucking huge. I mean enough for like a family of six I really. So they're like a, delicate dancing like a Carnegie deli. It's a dessert. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that was hilarious.

The one time we went in, my parents took my wife, and I must have been for one of our anniversaries years ago. And for dessert, we ordered something with ice cream. And, I mean, there was so much ice cream. I mean, you and me and bam, rose. I mean, we still wouldn't have put a, a dent in this. And my mom was like, oh, it's too bad we can't take it home. And they're like, oh, you can't. They had special fucking things. Oh my God, it's for you to take the frozen desserts.

Oh Jesus Christ. Yeah. Like that's phenomenal. Now why didn't you tell me to go there when I was in Chicago? Instead, I went to that pizza place. I don't know, I kept telling you, Gibson's baby, everything that we talked about on the show. Well, she told me, Gibson, if we're going to be doing a, a steak dinner for the for Dell or whoever it gets to the point, you know, who hits Dale status, then, that would be Gibson's. And, of course, I don't know if that means we would pay for their steak.

I mean, we would love to buy us a steak. I know that for the very least, I, if I remember correctly, back when no agenda was talking about the first ever night's get together in Vegas, like year two. Because there's only ten people that were nights. Very few. Right. Instead of Lynch group time. Yeah. May have been 20, but it was a small number. And, when they start talk and then that issue came up and Jan instantly chimed in. Well, of course they're going to buy us steak dinner. Well, yeah.

I was like, okay, so we get to fly out to Vegas. Yeah, yeah. You gotta stay there for the hotel and then have dinner with Janet and I'm. And buy them dinner, but, okay. And then John was wondering why only two people RSVP. Really? He's like, well, you have to come out. And, but I understand it to a certain extent because it depends on what you're offering. And that's why I think maybe we dropped out really quickly, like, well, we could buy pizza for everybody.

It's because, you know, now I know, I think we buy a drink for everybody and then, call it a day. Yeah, they they buy us dinner. Because the reality is, if you were to buy it and if you if it was unlimited, if you were like, hey, we're going to Gibson's buy anything. On the menu. Steak side dessert. Well that good. If you had alcohol if you could be more than a gram. So I'm sure you know it's like well okay. Well how could you possibly eat for less than that. Right.

I mean that would be just ridiculous to think you can have a meal for under a thousand. Is that even that, like, maybe 20 years ago? Yeah. I mean, maybe way back when they got time today. No. Not do. Course not today. In today's world, I mean, the let's see what's the price on there. And, I think I told you I had my most expensive shopping, grocery shopping for the week last week. Wow. It's still going up. Then it was $260 for one person for one week. How many bottles of ice tea? 12 bottles.

12 bottles of iced tea. How much in, proteins? What are we getting? What? We talk meats. These are mostly ham. Ham? I mean, there was. It is that time of the season? Yeah. Yep. To a ham. And I just bought a ham again. I mean, the ham is so cheap. Yeah, last year I bought one and then forgot about it in the fridge and never cooked it. Because the hams for, like, what's a big ham? You know, 10 pounds of meat, but just. Yeah. Like for a 10 pound ham for like eight bucks.

There I go over to the deli. That's like, how much for a pound of the ham? Well, it'll be dead by night, right? It's like, are you are you. Hi. I don't get it. Yeah. No, it's a there's, significant market. You know, the worst one is chicken I found. So the grocery stores, a lot of them, including my H-e-b. Here, have a very cheap roast chicken like Costco has a super. Yeah, like 67 bucks for a rocket. It's, I think literally six bucks. It's 599 for, for a roast chicken. That tastes good.

They're not as big as the Costco ones. Costco's ones are like mega chicken. Oh, yeah. Some have cut down on the chicken. You're like, is this even a chicken? Or is this like, yeah, it's it's bigger than a pigeon, but it's not as big as dusk. But either way. So it's six bucks, right. And it's it weighs about 2 pounds. So probably about a pound and a little bit of maybe a pound and a third of meat on there. Yeah. Because there's a lot of bones.

There's bones, but chicken bones don't weigh that much. They're kind of hollow bones. But, either way over a pound of meat. Right. Also, you can buy, roast chicken meat. Oh, yeah. For 99 bucks a pound. Right. You're like this. Like, not even I can get a whole chicken with more than a pound of meat for 599. But if, God forbid, somebody else cuts it up instead of me, then you're going to double the price. And usually they make it into, like, a shredded.

So that way they don't even have to worry about. Yeah. You don't you don't know what it is. It's just shredded chicken meat. Which means somebody is just they're putting the gloves on and they're just tearing. Ripping apart. Yeah. Yep. Exactly. Right. Yep. Look. Yeah. So that's that's an annoyance because when they first came out with the shredded chicken, it was exactly the same price. It was 599. You're like that's a deal. That's okay, I get it.

I was like, hey, I don't have to bother doing that myself to the chicken. I just buy the meat right out of it. I mean, you have a chicken guy, right? I do not have a chicken bone. Oh, you need anybody who wants to apply for the job of Gene's chicken guy. Yeah, well, they sent me chickens. Yeah, he will pay you $5 per chicken to. But I usually try order like a chicken every time I get groceries now, because it just. It's too cheap to pass up. Yeah. What's the.

Even if you throw half of it away? Wait. Thought of the problem. Says now in Canada, those are 14 bucks now apiece. No. You're kidding. I mean, it's crazy bucks for the chickens. Yeah, but that's you know, what is 14 bucks now is pumpkin pie. Whoa. Was it because it's the holidays? We can get more for it? I mean, I don't know what it is, but I I've seen pie for under ten bucks forever. It's it's anywhere between 699 and 999. And now all of a sudden this year I saw the pumpkin pies were 14 bucks.

I'm like, what the hell happened? I mean, I know what happened, but yeah, by myself, by inflation, our grocery store doesn't even have the Carnegie Deli cheesecakes this year like we got them just last year. We got them and they were like 60 bucks. And it was a big cheesecake. I mean, 60 bucks still. So that's a lot of money. Yeah. But look at here at Gibson, you can get a if you want to start with an Alaskan red king crab cocktail. Why wouldn't you? 72 bucks for the appetizer.

Okay. Now, if you want any. Do you want a super salad with that, or is that just a way? Yeah. Let's just get a, a wedge, a nice wedge salad loaded wedge is a 15 with bacon, tomato and blue cheese. That's not bad. It's not bad. Yeah, it's up to $15 for a salad. Well, in the wedge. So that's like the most basic salad you can get. Now, their whole roasted chicken is, Well, with fries. 3125. Yeah, but, you know, 31 bucks for one chicken. Yeah. I mean, that's well worth.

But but how about, but you don't go to Gibson's for chicken. No, you do not. You you can go for some, you can get some sliders for a little teaser. Three for 20 bucks. That's reasonable. But what I pay here in Austin, you got your sides. That creamed spinach. 1350. Oh, you got to have the green spinach. That's so good. Every steakhouse has a great, like, creamed spinach. I mean, that's the beauty of the whole thing.

They have figured out how to take something which is spinach, which is very healthy on its own. And nobody really likes the way you make it super unhealthy by drowning in butter. You. But you feel like you're eating something healthy with me. This tastes damn good for us. That's the best spinach I've ever had, right? 1800 calories just for the spinach. We're just ignore that part. Do not pay any attention. Do not now. They still have the, cholesterol burgers there or what? Oh, I'm sure they do.

I'm sure they got all of that. But the. And now for this, they're saying you'll go finish it up. Now I'll jump to another food thing. The, big porterhouse, 48 ounce porterhouse is now up to 165 bucks. That's expensive. The last one of those I have, I think, was 99. The tomahawk chop dry, aged 32oz. 155. Those are usually over 100, but okay, the hours cut, the one I like is now at 87. I think the last time we were there, that was like 65.

But again, we understand the, the Biden inflation that they have on the filets. You got a choice of seven ounce, ten ounce, 14 ounce, telling would be, like a reasonable fillet. That is 65. Yeah. I mean, that's Chicago's that's like city of Chicago pricing. That is good stuff. Good stuff. So this is why we couldn't have a, you know, hey, you you gave us $1,000. We'll take you to dinner here because we'd be like, oh, we lost money. Yeah, we lost money.

We'd have to keep you just on an appetizer is really. Oh, yeah. Well be the, Let's see. The craziest dessert would be the, I think it was. I think it was the macadamia turtle. You know, this really does make the, the chow seem extremely, reasonably priced. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I guess it's it's just, like, 70 bucks a year. Eat all you want. And I'm pretty sure it was the macadamia turtle pie that we had that was frozen. So, you know, it was kind of like a, you know, ice cream pie.

$25.25 for the first slice. Yeah. Yeah. So good though. So good. I mean, you can just get ice cream for seven bucks. We'll crumble for 13, a chocolate chip cookie, seven bucks. Bargain bargain. Carrot cake. 23, 25. Yeah. So basically we've been able to buy one cookie to split between two of us for every show we've done this year. Yeah. I mean, really, if we're lucky. I mean, that's, And then now you can see why I'm doing YouTube.

We might just have to do half a cookie that each show just kind of spread it out so we each get a quarter. I mean, that's kind of the best way to do it. Yeah, I think so. And, I mean, so far, so good stuff. Not a single boost for today's show and nobody is streaming stats while they listen to this show. Why would they? The show is dying on the vine. It's the best show on the network yet. It's dying on the vine. I mean, it's been around for a while.

I don't know how it's on the vine, but okay, well, it's on the vine and it's dying. It's been off the vine for a long time. Really. Bonuses. Carrot cake is gross. Paying over $20 for garbage. I'm with you. Carrot cake is not my favorite. I like carrot cake. Oh, of course you would. I mean, for sure somebody could make a good carrot cake. I like to I it's there's hardly any carrot in carrot cake. Well, of course, because then it would taste like carrots and nobody would eat it.

Yeah. And the, the, the topping on it is, basically cream cheese. Now, this is it. That's the trick right there. You like that just tastes so good. It is. And as the holiday season spread, a lot of cheer. Yeah. Like, the holiday season is kind of like the, Yeah. It's kind of like the Holocaust for us, diabetics. Oh, because you can't eat anything. Yeah, because you can't fucking eat anything. But everybody else is like, And we nobody feels bad as they're scarfing down the, Yeah.

All the sweets right in front of you. They're like, oh, jeez, you want a cookie? And you're like, you want to kill me? Exactly. What are you trying to do? Some people are like, maybe. Yeah, I'm pretty sure, dude named Ben is, is is already figured out where he's going to put the guns when I'm dead. That is, assuming he's going to near. Oh, you you you have your little, like, post-it notes on each one of the guns, like. No, but he does for your guns. He puts.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been to your house on this, like. But, this is like. Oh, yeah. Let's, I'll just make a note here so I don't forget where I want this one after you're dead. I mean, somebody is going to have to come into your house, and pretty much disassemble everything to find all the guns. I mean, there's that part of it. Disassemble. But, yeah, I mean, they I'm. They're not sitting out in the open, I'm betting. Yeah, they are all in every room just sitting out.

You know, you don't have like a little, you know, that fucking job, though. Oh, you want them, you want them easily accessible for when you need them. And when the with the Harikrishna has come to your door, they, you want them to be able to see very clearly that, you are not a man to be trying. Oh yes. I'm getting how are you Christmas coming to my door all the time. You do too, man. It's horrible. Oh, 1975. Dude, we still get him here.

Not when we don't, but, you probably shot enough of them down there that they're like, yeah, we'll go to Chicago. He didn't. They start in Chicago or something? I do that now. Or was it California? One of those. I'm sure there's insanity in both. But it's the holiday season. It's time for good cheer. It's time for gathering with family and friends and not drinking or eating. So there's. Yeah, exactly. No, you're absolutely right to that. We are coming up to the annual fest.

Oh that's right, I forgot. Yeah. Yeah. That's the that was January last year. So January it's I have to pick which starting day it's going to be. It's probably January 3rd or fourth. Whatever the weekend is and yeah, ten days of no food. That is always fun. Well, it's, it's two things. One is this is the last time that you have the, ozempic or the whatever, the gyro to help. No. Cause that that's like, it's not even a big deal. Yeah, exactly.

Like that just happens when you don't even notice on those. But, no, I didn't, but the, It's a good test of willpower. It's a little bit of a cost savings because you don't have to buy food for a couple of weeks, and it's also something that, you feel good about after doing. You don't feel good while you're doing it. You feel good after doing it. Well, you don't feel bad while you're doing it.

It's just the first three days is really the only time that you kind of keep feeling like you're hungry. Well, now you can spend a lot on those desserts because, net net came in with 500 sats, which is about $0.50, so that's less than $0.50. I thought it was right about the other day. Although it isn't really. You should do a check. I didn't think that the other day I wasn't. That was a dollar. So it was right at that. Really? Yeah, really.

Then I came down, I think he says Merry Christmas to Darren though. And captain no tastebuds. Oh damn. I like when people send money with insults. Yeah, well that's about what, you know, shells worth $0.06 as well, right? That that says what I picked. Three, three, three, three. Well, that's not what it says. That's okay. Yeah. Or did somebody, like, bring in a bottle? He sent 500. He meant to send in 333 033334333344 digits. Not three. Oh. Okay. That is what the helipad says.

Well, you know, they there are certain fees involved with getting SATs through the network. So I think we're seeing those fees in effect them somebody else grabbed the other the other amount that that's all totally legit going into. I'll be hub, I'll be hub. Let's see. Received third. Well there well there now that came in. So Yeah. Again thank you. Now that that was 3300 Satoshis there. And I like hearing I like hearing the JCD in the tunnel. That sounds the coolest. That sounds got off.

And we could just we need a better, clip or something like that for the show. And then we should also, I need to figure out how to set it over a certain threshold, but that, I mean, he just came in big. He was basically being, CSP for the day. Congratulations that you are CSP for the day. Woohoo! We need you. Why are you insulting a guy who just send you money? Exactly. Why are you in sodium net? Every Rock and roll pre-show comes in with the list of birthdays.

He is a highly regarded birthdays member of the community. Every, musician that would be considered rock and roll that has a birthday. All the people you steal money from the birthday strongly promote the rock n roll. Yeah, yeah, that's not how it works. We promote. Both of these guys are like 80. That's the thing with Rock. Exactly. You're taking money from their dead people. Their long dead. You. The birthday list for rock and roll.

It's like usually it's kind of sad because about 60%, 70% are dead. Yet Keith Richards lives on. I don't know how that works. Yeah, exactly. I don't know how that works.

Heroin, baby. Yeah, that it's a preservative. What? Little did we know? Literally, medical science is going to finally come around and find out that heroin is very healthy. That'll get us kicked off of YouTube. Therefore, when it's healthy crowd, you do have medical thoughts, medical advice, healthy heroin. That should be the name of the show title. That and it's even your clip, not me. So once. That was a great game though. Who could get us kicked off of YouTube? That would be.

Yeah, I think you're you're trying awfully hard to manage to do that, but I guarantee you we will be because, it's just where the show goes. They think that anything that anybody says on any podcast or video, they're being serious. Oh, I know they that's YouTube's standard policy. If you've said any words that we find objectionable, clearly you meant them. We don't understand sarcasm. We don't know. There's no sarcasm allowed on YouTube. What do you mean, sarcasm? There's no sarcasm. You don't.

It's all every show is clearly trying to provide medical advice, no doubt. I mean, that's what we should do, right? Medical advice. Let people know what is good, what is bad, what they need. I got some new drugs coming, so we'll find out next week. I mean, they can't figure it out on their own. What kind of drugs are coming in? This is just you said from Amazon though. No, no, no, from, the grocery store. I just saw the new drug vitamins. Okay. What are we trying something new.

Is it part of the vast number? So B12, GM, B12. Oh, yeah. B12, B12. There we go. Hi. That's the point of the show where Gene takes his B12. Don't worry, I already took my Prolog with my coffee. Oh, you're an idiot. I wouldn't be the first co-host to tell me that, but I'm sure about that. Or or or spouse or a friend or family member or, You mean I'd be. I wouldn't be the first one to not tell you, right? Exactly. That's what it's a way smaller list right there.

Oh, that's why we're having this is why people come to unrelentingly 20 years. Listen to the show. Yeah. Is that what we're down to here today? Oh, my God, there are people. Used to be 500 that are. Oh, I mean, I'm just talking live. I don't care about live. I mean like overall. But there are people that, swear by the show. And we appreciate you all for listening.

I you can't count any of the live listener people because they literally would be there, regardless of what show played that this timeslot looks that like. Somebody only shows up to listen to this show. Well, I noticed, like, right, they're all retired. None of them have jobs. Right? Before we went live, there were 36 people on the live stream. There you go. And then we got up to was 30. Once we went live, we got number, went down in that. We got up to 51. So there was a little bit of a bump.

And then we started talking about the spaceships, and then we got them down to 43 again. And now, yeah, it went back up to 60. And then I think there are people that during this show are like, let's see. Fuck. Are they talking about spaceships? Let me turn it off for ten minutes and see what's going on then. Well, they're talking about I think you're you're giving them way too much crab. These are people that that have prostate issues.

They have to go to the bathroom and and they turn off the show. While they do that, somebody's knocking. Or is that. Yeah. My friend just showed up. The, net net says if Jen Briny were live, none of us would be here. And the reverend doctor exactly says literally here because there's nothing else on. So. Yeah. So we have half and half. Yeah. So you can't count, anybody who's listening live to actually be a listener.

These are just people that have, well, nothing better to do with their lives, apparently. Remember, of people that actually hit subscribe on a podcast. Subscribe. Those are the one least, at least they took some effort to subscribe to us CSB really talking about us, Pembro says. I'm literally here because CSB told me you were talking about something interesting. I'm still waiting. Well, first of all, your first mistake is listening to CSB, right?

Who your second mistake is they thinking that there's something interesting on the show that's been on for two years that you've heard before, and now you think there's going to be something interesting with you, not have you not figured out the format? No. And if you're listening while he's driving around the hour, and since this is a day off and he's wasting time, I think he's off today, which I'm like, we should have recorded.

How are you off as a delivery dude in the busiest season of the year? I don't know, but I was how do they give you a day off? They shouldn't give you any days off right now. Grumpy old Ben's holiday episode. We should do one to have it out on Christmas Day. Because imagine the surprise and all the little kids eyes when grumpy old Ben's like, you might make a buck or two. Maybe people be like, oh, they're back, or we wouldn't. There are people that are still giving like $10 a month.

There may be people out there surprised that you stop like six months ago. I'm not one of those. I meant to go on. Yeah, I hope not. I wish that would be the best. But no, you've never donated to grumpy old Ben's. I don't think I totally have donated to grumpy. I don't, I have records of it, I don't, I don't, I donated with the note that says you guys should have me on. Oh, and then we did. And then you didn't for like, two years. I mean, a lot of people say we should have them on.

Most of them, not so much. Not so much. Grumpy Old Ben's is the best tech podcast. It's on hiatus. It'll be back. I hate this, I'm just really surprised Ben Rose has not killed anybody as a as a delivery driver. Dealing with packages, dealing with customers, dealing with, I'm guessing some. The only thing I actually Chris about. I don't know how many of those packages Ben Rose gets to keep it. Well, just the ones that say like, you know, hookers and blow up.

I'm sure he shakes them a little bit to see what's in there before he decides that that says you may have just donated to grumpy old Ben's in your trucker simulation game. See if that's possible to. You were just you simulated. Yeah. And then that pays attention way too much to what I'm doing. Like this. Is this great, though? This is why the show works. People are like, yeah, I did, you never get rid of that mirror that was sitting at this for you. No, I still have it.

When will the mirror leave the house? When I get around to it. That is a good idea. The important thing about mirrors is just simply not to break them. And, Penrose did say that a lot of people in his area do leave things out for the delivery driver, which is way nicer than. What do you mean, garbage? Like the whole, like, like packages that have been opened now, like a soda, you know, unopened bottles and cans.

And I seriously would not trust anything somebody left out like these people, especially in the state he's in. Yeah, right. It probably has heroin in it. Little sad little, what do you call fentanyl? Yeah. Yeah. Fentanyl. Exactly. That's the drug of choice up there in Seattle. And he's a goodbye delivery driver. You wait a little bit. No, man. Yeah, just. That'll be fun. Yeah? Yeah. Message.

You always talk about the trucker sim game, and you talked about it so much, he thought it might be cool for a second. The fentanyl is what we call a perk, says Baton Rossi. I mean, this is a whole hopper. It'll it'll it'll break the upper right. Oh, yeah. No. Yeah. Just wait til they put you behind the wheel of an AI automobile. Exactly.

Yeah. You know, I think what's going to happen eventually, and, this, all kidding aside, is they probably will have Amazon, quote unquote, drivers whose job it is to be basically in the back of a truck. Right. And the truck drives itself, and then you jump out when you get to the address. Yep. And you and the other truck will leave with or without you. Exactly that. The truck knows how long it should take you to drive that thing that's coming. If it's not here already, it's absolutely coming.

I can't wait to see, like, the big sign on the outside. Like, counted down five. Yeah, or no. And then they're going to have, like, the, delivery drivers that that are hooked into the drones. Oh, you just drop them of the how's your, parachuting skills? Beemer? Oh, it's, No, no, no, they'll be on the on the line. The drone to lower you down tether, you dumb. You put the package, you know it's safe, and then it'll suck you back up to the drone, and then they fly out to the next place.

You're like, Merry Christmas now. He'd be like, do the class? People would see your name. They went to class. Yeah. You'll get stuck in the chimney. That's true. True? Yeah. Dude named Ben took some photos of the Amazon drones flying over his house. Ooh. Are these, like, the big drones? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got the big drones from Amazon flying there now. Is this what they're testing in, Jersey or something? You'll find out. Well, he he lives close to a college town there.

And so I think the, the Amazon's got a deal with the college to make deliveries by drone. Interesting. And so he's seeing them flying like, I don't think he's getting deliveries by drone, but he's seeing him flying overhead all the time. And, if anybody is interested in an account, I'm perplexity. I don't understand why it is another one of these AI things perplexity that I they ping whatever word you want to use so you can put it in a query.

And they use ChatGPT, they use Claude, they use, you know, the other services. So it's kind of an aggregator in one way or another. That was the link that I sent you earlier when I was like, who was general? And then it didn't know anything about the podcast. Nothing. Yeah. Now, Kevin Rose, I guess, gave away like $1 million worth of the because they, they're like ChatGPT they're charging 20 bucks a month. Yeah, yeah. Fuck that. Xfinity because I have an affinity account.

And then my parents got one as well. I got a link and I didn't really understand because it said you get a free year, which I did. But then it also said the link works up to eight times. So I'm assuming if I share that link now that I got my free year. Yeah, you can get more people on LinkedIn there. Yeah. That is see wait, Thorne says. Here we go. I got him on perplexity and now he's doing referral codes. No. See you didn't because I wouldn't have. But yeah, he mentioned. There you go.

Wait. Thorne was the one that mentioned that. That's first where I heard about it. And then all of a sudden, this show, sponsored by perplexity, it was a one stop shop for AI based news on any topic. Simply read in one word and it will spit out everything that you could find yourself on Google. Wait. Thorne mentioned it, that it was in my emails that I got a year free and now I'm like, well, if I if I can find that link even.

But if that get your free year using Darren's code, but it's it's not going to get us anything. I mean, that would be nice if we could do that. That would be great. But I don't understand why. You know what? They gave Kevin Rose a bunch. I don't know if he's a investor or not, but.

Okay, why give everybody with an affinity account something free that is worth, you know, allegedly $20 a month, and then even if you're like, okay, because they want to get people used to using it, adding on that every one of those Xfinity people, does that share it with seven other people? It just seems like they're giving away a lot of. I don't think you understand how advertising works. Well, I do understand you understand what an cost of acquisition is.

I understand, according to Adam Currie and John C Dvorak, the cost every time somebody does a query on these AIS. So why you would want to immediately open up to millions of new people using the system for free. But I guess maybe it is just, hey, we we get you for it there. Really. Maybe they have enough money to run the next year and what they're really hoping exactly. Once the year ends, everybody's gonna be like, oh, I love this so much. I'm going to pay and you don't need everybody renewing.

You just need a percentage of people to renew. Wait, so you need to enter a credit card when you signed up, turn. No, I did not. Which is the other great thing. And it was the first thing I generated a new email for from. Oh, nice. The, the, the other email service pro type. Yeah. Turned on searches, to the sonar. Huge model for text search and see, I mean, there's some interesting things being done with AI, but it still didn't know that was a podcast or which anybody listen to this show.

There's a question of whether he is. So I mean, that's yeah, that's anybody's guess. I don't know that I want to be associated with those people. I don't know either. And there is no podcasting 2.0 today. I just want to point that out. Are they taking the time off? They must be. I think that's why we should do that next week. Now we're not going to do that. We, unlike all these slackers, are hard working people. Yeah, like to work hard. And then it's like net net are the only people.

Yeah but the wife's off and we got shit to do. You know how it is. I will double check. This is your excuse to not to have to do some of that shit. I mean, it really? This. That's what I'm using on Monday for Planet Rage, the show that makes more than $10. This show. I mean, Larry does it really, though. Yeah. I mean, we make we probably average. I mean, it's not great, but I think that's still probably more about 100 bucks a show on average, a hundred bucks a show.

So you're making less on that show than I am on YouTube. Okay. Oh, 100 per show. So $50 for two hours. Are you making over $25 an hour? No, I'm definitely not making over $25 an hour. All I know is, sir, Gino's me and sabemos lunch. He already got Rosa lunch y z. Oh. You in lucky. Net net. Why would I own net net lunch? I don't know, but he took he took them out for sushi. I don't know if that counts, though. What? He made the other guy pay for it, but I mean, that totally counts.

Like, I hooked me up with free sushi. That was an expensive meal that was not a lot of sushi. He does like a lot of sushi doesn't. The best sushi is free. I love his. Immediately after the bill, he just took off by seeing you guys go, pretty much pretty much. We're like, okay, have a good one. He said. It was tasty sushi. So there you go. I still never had sushi, and I would still rather just die eating red meat than, on sushi. Oh, she's good man. So no podcasting 2.0 today.

And the, the wife is not coming home for lunch, so, I mean, I could just keep going for another three hours. What do you want to know? Let's hang up. I'm going to go run, get my food, and then I need to talk to you about the the bitcoin crap. All the bitcoin crap. Well, what I will get to is why don't we get if if we want to do the food, I can go and grab a quick lunch to the lobby thing. Okay. Tell me I'm skipping the Alby thing. I guess we'll wrap up and then I will see. You know about.

The game? Yeah, I'm happy with it. You. Merry Christmas trolls,