128: Girls On Trampolines

They've just added space girls.

Yeah. Let me show you. You. Hello, and welcome to episode number 128 of unrelenting. September 6th, 2024 I am Darren O'Neill. He is jetting off to leave and I will tell you again, it's Russia, Russia, Russia all over again. I know. Right? We'll get a guest. It's crazy. It is genius. This is. Hey, if it worked once, right? Yeah. Well, this is that really worked so well, depending who you ask. Did it work the last time with the literally. It worked with a lot of people. It did.

Yeah. And this is pure genius. I'm just pissed we're not big enough to get the millions of dollars flowing in. So people say no, you know, it's you are controlled by the Russians. But this is genius. All you gotta do, all the things. The Irishman, Tim Pool, he's control, and I'm not. Goddamn it. I know you're like. Wait, do you not see, I am little of the tribe. I come from the motherland. You should. Maybe it's two on the nose. Maybe. Maybe.

Yeah. As somebody said, you know that you get your money. I'm like, I'm still waiting for my goddamn check. Yeah, in rubles directly from Moscow. But this is genius when you think about it. Because obviously in rubles, not an inflationary currency like dollars. Way more stable to go with the Russian currency. Can you get me a, bank account over in Moscow so I can keep all of my rubles very safe? Yes. Keep your well, my rubles aren't in Moscow before they get Leningrad.

I mean, you got some place, you got em stashed away. Did you not want. Once the Kamala gets in, then everybody has to start paying the, death tax, and they want unrealized gains and, Yeah. Unrecognized gains. That's awesome. Man, it's like you just sitting on there say, okay. Yeah, you you bought some expensive things that you might sell someday.

Yeah. Let's tax you on those today. Yeah. Like and whatever it's worth probably at the they're not going to charge you on what you bought it for. So the you know Gibson guitar I've got that I bought for 2200 back in the day that I can easily sell for 5000 now. Well that's all going to be taxed on 5000. Well yeah naturally. And then fact you forgot to pay sales tax for 5000. So I know that when you bought it right now you have to go retroactively and pay. Hey hey pay, pay those taxes. Absolutely.

But this is genius to try and take everything that conservative commentators are saying. And sully it and do it right. Well beyond Sully, it's essentially painted with the brush of like they've always been Russian agents. Right. Didn't you guys believe us, right. That this is all in what we told you? The Russian collusion. Yeah, but it's only Russia. I mean, that's the beauty of it, too. It's not China. No, it's never China. It's never China.

It's, you know, we keep finding Chinese, spies working for a variety of Democrats. Same thing. Does the bang bang. Never. North Korea there's really there's a lot of countries, you know like India who aren't right. It's never anybody from the Middle East. Right. But I mean even countries that aren't adversaries, they you don't think they want to have a say. You don't think they want to tilt the election in a way that would make the world better for them?

Well, it's all moot because Putin endorsed Kamala Harris. No, it's this should be the ultimate collusion, right? If I were I mean I'm assuming maybe the Trump campaign's smart enough to run those ads. Vladimir Putin endorses Kamala Harris. True. They really should. They run it is the absolute truth. Yep. Yep. We all know Vlad is fucking with them. And this is again the problem. When you come down to it's a great when you get world leaders trolling you. Yes. It's awesome.

What did he say? Oh, I hear it. Kamala's laugh is infectious because it just means everything's okay. It means your heads empty. So for Vladi, that means everything's okay. Yeah, yeah, but this was genius. Because who won't take money? Who won't take money when somebody comes in and goes, hey, yeah, I like your show. We want to license your content. Here's 5 million bucks. We'd be like, yep, here's me. I want to make sure my last name is spelled this way. Here's where you need to send the check.

Would you like me to come pick it up? I will be over as quickly as I can get there. Well, and they pretty much went, after people that have been, very pro-Trump the whole time that, chin check with you. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Mike immediately got fired from the blaze, so I want to know from their side what's going on? What the blazes that they they've had so many issues with their people. It's hilarious. Oh, yeah. The yours Ruben works for them as well. So they're right in the middle of this.

Just like. No, Ruben doesn't work to the blaze. Didn't he ever show on the blaze? I thought he did. No. Ruben took out his own network. I thought he was doing something for Bet, but I could be wrong. It's so hard to tell. It's so. The man of Ruben is a partner of, What's that other. It's not. It's not YouTube. It's the other guys, the, with Rumble. Rumble? Yeah. He he's a partner. Rumble! I thought he had a show going to be on blaze.

I don't know, I mean, maybe he is, but I'd be shocked if you ask, is. That would make no sense, because these guys don't damn network. Well, this you get you got your network. I got my network. That is a, real. But yeah, it's, here it is. Dave Rubin, creator of the Rubin Report political talk show on YouTube and on the network blaze TV. Like back when? Before he was, Republican. I mean, I don't know if it's still on there or not. I don't think this is current, dude.

No, I think maybe he was on wires like, years and years ago telling it. This is where there was a connection. The Rubin Report, the YouTube, it launched in 2013. It was originally a part of the Young Turks network. Well, that's the beautiful thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's your connection right there. There's the Russians right there. Now, we know. Now we know that it was the Turks all along. That's how you go. We call you. You blew up the pipeline. The Turks can follow it right back to him.

So right back to those Russians, man.

Yeah. It's it's, it is pretty, pretty damn funny. But yeah. And then, Benny Johnson or whatever his name is Benny something. It's that 19 The Rubin Report became available on blaze TV. So it didn't even hit blaze TV till 2019. So that's relatively recent. It doesn't say that. It's all. Yeah, it's five years ago. Well, that's relatively recent in the world. Okay. All right. Guess I just have to go to the blaze TV site. That'll tell me everything I need to know. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure we like.

We like Rubin. The, Yeah. Benny Johnson, who popped out of nowhere. He. He's right in the middle of this. Yeah. I wasn't even familiar with who he was. He's really mostly on Twitter, I think on the X of the. Yep. He's been on temple show a couple times. But I see stuff from him on X all the time, all day long. I think he's one of those full time guys. I have no doubt.

Yeah. I mean, he's clearly getting paid by the Russians to be spreading propaganda on X. Unlike us, the Rubin Report is still on the advertising on the main page of The Blaze. So he's still there. But really? Yeah. That makes no sense to you. You doubt me, man? I know what's going. I do doubt you because it makes no frickin sense. Why would he be on there? I didn't say it made sense. I just don't want to forever be getting paid because it's being licensed.

They're like, hey, can we take your stuff to and run it? Which is what people do. So with O'Reilly, O'Reilly started out building his new little empire as doing a podcast, and then it got to the point to where it was picked up by some radio. So this is, I think, how it got to the hour length, which is 45 minutes or so, and then they fill in with all the ads.

But he started as a podcast and then some television, which was the first TV, and a bunch of radio stations decided to start taking the content. So he still doing his own thing, and you can still get your direct from him if you want to be a subscriber. But you could also listen to the exact same show on radio in New York. And like 300 other stations, you can also watch it if you have the first TV as part of your cable or satellite plan. So I think these guys do licensing deals or.

Yeah, I've got my own thing and I post that, but if you want to pay me to run my content, then they take the money, which is again, it seems that is what happened here with tenant tenant media that. But hey, we want to license your content. We want to use it. And according to and I have a tendency to believe this, but I don't know exactly what's been going on. The Timberwolves and the Dave Rubin's and everybody that's come out and talked about this that.

Well, yeah, they licensed our content, but we didn't change what we were doing. This is our right. We weren't given a script. Definitely what Tim Poole is saying and pretending to be true. Well, now the question is for me, you're the pool boy guy. You like the pool boy. The question is whether it's true or not. It's probably. I mean, hurt him is me sending money every month the Timberwolves know and the. What's the right way to give him the money.

This is the Russian money the Timberwolves been getting. We are uncovering it right here. They're like look for three and a half years I've been paying the guy like here's this guy. He's obviously Russian money a Russian shill. Well I love the two people that they're working on are were Boris and Natasha. It's a really all you need much. It's at the. And it's like. So where did the money come from? Boris and Sasha. Oh fearless leader. Yes. Do that. Worry. It's as good money it will.

It will catch you good. You? Very good. Yeah. It's, Well, you know, they are getting rid of all their dollars for bricks, so it makes sense. But people will believe this, and it will probably have a negative effect on all of these creators. And it's seems like it's technically true. They took the money, but nobody's going to believe what some people will. But a lot of people won't believe that they were in a part of whatever the underworld.

You know, the hiding, the pretending to be something that they're not. Which is exactly what this was meant to do. This was meant to take conservative voices and cast a shadow of doubt on them, that they're a Russian propaganda peddling machine from the start. And a lot of people, I think, will believe that not the most diehard fans, but we saw what happened with Trump and Russia. Collusion. People are still repeating the same lies from 8 to 10 years ago.

So it'll be interesting to see how the pool boy and the rest come out on the other side of this, because I can see that there's a lot of people that are. If you were on the fence listening to them, you'll be like, oh, you were lying to us. You were taking their money and you weren't being transparent about it. And it's just it does come off to look really stupid. If you're the guy that comes out like we have. We were taking millions of dollars. We didn't know where it was coming from.

That makes you completely ignorant. Whoever does really, I would hope, is people that don't want to be, questioned under oath and have to go, like, I don't know. Well, why did you cheat, ma'am? Why do you think they were paying you $1 million a year? I don't know, I mean, I just thought they likely. Very weird. But it does the job. No matter what comes out, it does the job because it will definitely put a cast on them that they were bought and paid for by a foreign government.

And I'm pretty sure knowing the Biden administration and what has happened with Donald Trump, I think they're going to push this. I don't think this is going to be something that's going to go away. This will wind up, just like Donald Trump, all these court cases. I'm betting you're going to see Tim Pool and the rest of these people in court. Well, temples are suing the the, Biden administration. We should. Yeah, it's it's a horrible administration that has hurt every American.

Let's not waste suing him. But yeah, I'm just saying people need to stand up. But what does the Biden administration do to pool, or is it over this? No, it's not over. That's it was it was announced right before they announced this. Oh, so not connected at all. Not at all connected just, like a couple days apart. Now they're suing him, suing the administration for a campaign ad that takes them, pulls clips out of context, and, they're suing him for, I don't know, libel, slander.

One of those things. They are good at that. And this is the problem. And I don't want there to be laws that can mean freedom of speech is a pretty simple thing. And these are the kind of things that the other side will throw out there to try to get people to jump on their train, because somebody like Tim Poole is going to be like,

well, don't know, you took my words and you use them wrong. And we have talked about this a million times. I could be talking about somebody else. I'm like, hey, do you know, Kim Poole said, I really love the Nazis. And then they clip me just with those words, taking out the part that said Tim Poole or whoever said, and they put those words into your mouth. Michelle Obama talked about slavery.

Bill O'Reilly covered it, and seeing that very recently did the same thing, they took him quoting Michelle Obama and played those words as his own. He tried to make him look bad. It's like, what can really be done about this? Because I don't think there's any laws that are on the books, and they'd be very hard to enforce.

I would think that says, well, you can't take actual audio of somebody and use just a snippet of it, and it's illegal if you don't include the full, because this is what the news does every day. So the news would be out of business. But how do you even police that? How do you make that a crime to take somebody's snippet out of context, use that for something, and then say that it didn't represent what they wanted it to represent?

Well, yeah, I think you have to be portraying the accuracy of that clip because you can obviously take a clip, use it for fun for comedic purposes. No problem. You can take a clip, use it for news for purposes, but you can't change. What was that? This is a liquid death, dad. Billionaire have to think this is half tea and half lemonade. Oh, my God. And this was ordered by, from Amazon Cotton gin, and it came damaged. Half the cans leaking. Bastards. And therefore, you're getting it for free.

But you kept it and still drinking, which I did. Yes. And the reality was, it was only two cans out of 12 that were leaking. Most of them were bent like the whole thing was dropped. And going through that whole process was very interesting because there's nothing in Amazon's automated nothing. Definitely not that says because it's like, well, you can't retard it. It's food. It's like, but it was damaged. We have nothing there.

Just like, well, there was a loop that kept sending you back and I'm finally just had to go to the chat and they were fine in the chat. But yeah, if you wanted to do that, you have to actually get a although I'm not sure it's a real person anymore. Could have very easily been a chat bot. I but yes, this then is a free liquid death. Courtesy of Amazon.com. Not sponsoring? No, I had some free guacamole the other day. That is the best kind of guacamole I had that.

Well, yeah, it's normally seven bucks. I have a, delivery guy call me up and say, hey, I dropped your guacamole. I said, all right, this is would you like me to tell the story and then have them bring you another one? I'm like, okay, do you still want the one I dropped? I'm like, sure. Like, what do you mean? So does it come out of the package? Yeah. So that's what I'm thinking. I'm like, okay, how bad is did he spill half of it on the ground? What is this going to be? So I get it.

It it is completely full. I think what he means by I dropped it is it was in the bag. He dropped the bag, the top popped off. Oh. But none of it spilled into the bag that was there because the top popped off. Well, you can't you know, he can't deliver it though. It's the right. It's not. Although was there a seal? The guacamole that we get there is the plastic lid. But then when you take the plastic lid off the first time, there's a sealed piece.

There's no seal here. They make this in the store. Oh, so this is like brand fresh. The fresh guacamole. Yeah, it's exactly as fresh as can be. Yeah. So I look at it, I'm like, I don't know, man. Looks smells right. Let me try it. Taste that. It's like with goddamn guacamole. He could have just not mentioned anything. I would have been perfectly fine.

All he had to do was push the lid back down, and then I get a call from the stores like, yeah, so we'll have somebody come out and we deliver that. Now I'm like, yeah, I'll just give me credit back for that. Don't worry about the delivery. Oh, you didn't want a guacamole guy to somebody specially bringing you one.

I just want a second guacamole because I would eat the damn thing if I already had the first one. And I'm like, ads, credit me back. That's fine. I'll just get some next time. They're like, okay, hold. Do I love some good little spicy? And some people like is perfect. They do a very good job. I mean, like I said, they make it a sauce, not like prepackaged. It's literally made that morning. And, it is very good. I like it because they, I think they put a little bit of lemon there.

Something in there? Oh, yeah. You have to have a little said that it could be a little lime juice, lime, whatever it is. But the it I like the, the, the astringent kind of flavor mixed with the fatty flavor of the guacamole. If you have your unrelenting bingo cards handy, make sure you click food talk or even lemon. Oh, right. True. Or feel free to add a guacamole square, right? I don't know how often that's going to be guacamole square. I mean, we know you have so many guys.

You know, you have your bagel guy do not go to New York bagel, whatever that was that, That's bad. Oh, yeah. You went to the wrong side. That was hilarious. Yeah, I it I was going to order some from the other place. I haven't done that yet. Do you have to order like, a dozen at a time. That seems like, a lot of bagels for one person or even two. So that's why I have a freezer, man. So the last indefinitely in the freezer. That's fine. I don't know what then. Definitely.

But, certainly lasts long enough to get eaten. He has the, bagel guy. He has the caviar guy. I mean, the sushi guy. Definitely. There's a sushi guy, and they have jeans. Yeah, she is one of those foods that, like, I don't know, getting store sushi delivered, but I did. I don't like getting any other sushi delivered, because really, sushi is meant to be eaten literally immediately after it's made. Yeah. Otherwise it goes right off the cliff. It just starts to. Yeah, because it's raw meat.

I don't want that, you know, sitting in somebody's car for a half hour as they expect it over. It's like when when you get sushi and it isn't cold, it doesn't taste good. Something about it. So the store sushi. I don't really consider sushi. I just consider it, you know, rice with fish, which I guess is fine for some people. Yeah. Which I mean, and store sushi. Yeah. I mean, I guess there's technically raw salmon in there. I usually get the salmon.

I'm not a as much of a tuna fan as salmon, but, it just doesn't. Like I don't have the same concerns about it. And I certainly am not spending the same kind of money on it as, like, real sushi from a good restaurant, which would be way more expensive and meant to be eaten immediately. And that like sitting in the car for half an hour, like you mentioned. Certainly not in Texas summer. No new listeners of the show were like, this guy was just about to talk to taking text out of context.

And then we got guacamole and sushi talk. How did this happen? It's unrelenting. That's right. Became unrelenting. So I had a phone call with, sports tech from, voltage. Oh, they're still looking for your satoshis. Well, I kept telling him I'm kind of rent writing this thing off. But the guy said, like, I, I now I'm, you know, it would help us as a company to figure out what the hell happened. So that snapped somebody else to, And I thought, okay, great.

I just don't want to spend any more time on this myself.

So can I just give you the admin and then you. What's wrong with it? And see if you can find anything? So you land. Here's all of my login information. Yeah. For the account on your service. You figure it out. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And the guy said, yeah, I was going to ask if you were okay with that. I'm like, yeah, of course. So the the and I gave him a different account to send. If he finds anything, send it to that one.

But he did say pretty quickly after looking at it that it did still look like there was a, an outgoing transaction that I didn't even see that was still sitting there. So he went into the command line and was manually canceling these things, which anybody except a complete row with this is going to ever go into the command line and start giving. Well, and he did say if you wanted to, I could get you access to this. But we generally don't give people command line access.

And I'm like, I know I don't want to learn this shit. I don't want to deal with this shit. The whole reason for using a service is to obfuscated enough that I can just click on buttons visually, and that I have to type in commands. So that's why you go with Alb. Now 20,000 sets a month, they'll take care of everything for you. Nope. That's why you don't go without me. That's why you don't go with any of these fucking services. Because in the end, they will all steal your shit.

Yeah. Sometimes inadvertently. Mind you, it's more convenient, though, if something will happen that will steal your shit. No, the best thing you can do is just pick up, and I'm not. You know, I'm like, I don't want to turn this into an ad,

but basically, pick up one of these, Russian mini computers, ledger devices, hardware plug in device. That is your wallet, but they don't do lightning yet. Exactly. That's. And then that's the that is the issue with lightning. If you want to do lightning, you kind of have to have lightning as per their terms of service is not a real test. It's not real money. You will lose money on lightning. It says that this is a test network that is meant for companies that want testing technology.

And boy, are we testing that. You need your own. No, that's the biggest issue. Well, I've tested about $600 worth of stuff, so yeah, worse than most. But I mean, really, that's just a sushi and steak dinner for you right there. Oh, no. No, sushi dinner is not quite that much for me now. A number, maybe a large party of sushi people. Certainly. But, no, I don't eat $600 worth of sushi in one sitting. Dude, never know that for me. No steak?

No, I mean, I'm if you're saying, like, meal for one, what's the most expensive meal I've had? That's probably $200. That's not too bad. Yeah, I don't think so. Have I paid for, like, larger meals with people that are that much worse? Yeah, a bottle of wine you can make triple that. I don't drink whiskey. That's luck right there. Like, I will say, I've never liked drinking at restaurants, even when I was drinking, because I know how much the wines cost, because I, I still have a dude.

I have four wine fridges right now. I don't fricking drink that. That seems like there could be a problem there. Or you just need to start giving it away. I that's what I'm doing. I'm giving him his gifts. The, reality is now, especially with restaurants, now that everybody has a cell phone in their pocket, that you can have things like.

I mean, I bet you now, with the ChatGPT app, again, not a, advertise, but, I bet you could take a photo of a wine list and ask it to show you retail value of the same wine. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it'd be like, wait, wait wait wait. Right. So if you could walk into the grocery store that existed, I know ten years ago, I know, but it's insane. It is insane that you're like, okay, if I only sell the wine guy, so I didn't need to do that, right? You need the wine guy.

You absolutely need the wine guy. The question is, really, what kind of a premium do you want to pay? Because you know that you could walk down the street and buy a bottle of wine for 100 bucks at the restaurant? It's going to be 3 to 500. Yeah, 33X is minimum markup at restaurants for wines, which is so anything that you're looking at is like, oh, I don't know, $70 a bottle of wine. Should we get this? Yeah, that that's a, $24 bottle of wine looking at. So. Yeah, don't worry about getting it.

Believe me, it's not rare. Don't worry about savoring it. And it's interesting because when it comes down to the food portion, which is why I get it, restaurants work on a much smaller margin on food. So they're like, well, wine. If idiots are going to drink. Yep. Males will be able to charge them for that. Yeah, exactly. That's why I would get like a 20. They'll give me the house through the house.

Yeah. Whenever we don't do that, everything the house wine is usually a mix of whatever is left from bottles. People didn't finish from the night before. All the wine gets poured into. Yeah. It's a beautiful. It's a beautiful house blend. Yes. We spend hours, perfecting the particular flavor we get here now. It's a it's a studio, but. No, my wine guy was oh he's John Oreck. So all I had to do was take a picture of a bottle or list and then texted some.

And for guy that keeps his text his phone turned off, he sure replied fast. It was either a yes or a no no. It was like a history of that wine is of my longest text ever with John are all about wine. So here's Jean. He's sitting at a restaurant, ready to order, and he's like, which of these two should I order in, like 14,000 text messages later? It's like, oh, no, I just want to know which one. I don't need to know anything else about them. Just give me a yes or no. It's how it works.

It is how it works. But no. As of yet you haven't gotten your money back from voltage. I don't expect it. I mean well the guy might just give you the money out of his own pocket just to make you stop saying bad things about his company. Because I've heard, you know, this is the worst company ever to not do business with voltage. Do not do anything with voltage. They took my money and I can't get it back. I mean, to be fair, the support's been really good.

It's just they couldn't figure out what the problem this is. The question is this. You're not saying the support is good. You're saying the support is polite support, and the guy's got a beard, so he can't really say much there. But you're saying he can't figure out how to solve the issue. But man, they're really trying. Is that really what you want from, like, your heart surgeon? You know, they're not really good at doing the surgery. But man, they're trying really hard. Exactly.

That's exactly right there. No, I, I've got no issues. And I tell the guy like, like you, you've literally tried a whole bunch of stuff. None of it worked. Yeah. He's responsive. He got on a video call with me to work through this, so. But I get it. Sometimes there are bugs, and no amount of support is going to fix a bug that exists in the system. But it's their system. Well, kinda. I mean, it's their system based on open source crap. Oh, I like that.

This wasn't just one bottle of wine you just sent me a picture of a grocery cart with, like, 8000 bottles of wine. Hey, hey, hey. It's like, give me a give me the information. Give me the skinny on these. There's my wine guy. I'm asking him a question. He's shopping with JC. So now there's an exit strategy for Dvorak, which happened with Jason Lee. He's an app. And when someone's at the wine store, they send them pictures and he tells them what to buy. Yeah. So did you just go into a submarine?

Yeah. Sorry about that. I the connection bouncing through all these satellites must not be working great. You get Leningrad on the phone, tell him we need to, we need to up the power. But it's interesting how many videos are popping up in my YouTube feed now about Star Citizen. I'm like I do not like that place citizen. I saw I right clicked on one and that was really the wrong thing to do because now I'll get more. You will.

The whole thing was on how they designed space towers and I'm like, oh wait, there's this. Like it's like worlds that they're designing. Oh yeah. Yeah, a whole video about space guns. They've they've just added space girls that lay eggs. Yes. Right. What the hell is this all about? This game is still in Alpha, and they're worried about.

Well, of course, the, more pretty cows have the. You have to take some more processing power because the hair is softer and it's like, well, yeah, they're hairy cows. Yes, they're they're like the Highland cows. It's a very interesting game. You're playing so stupid. This is what they're working on. Instead of doing actual game gameplay and finishing the goddamn game, they're creating cows. It's like, well, people just keep giving them money.

It's kind of like, if you're the Democrats right now, you're like, we got 381 million for Kamala. What do we do? And that's like a normal well make their when they're VC. Yeah. That's what they're trying to do maybe I don't know or they're just pocketing the money. I most of the predictions I'm seeing show her winning. Well but what predictions are they announcing there. Well people that I know on X all the Russian people.

No, no. Like people that used to work for T and I don't understand why Russian people. It's I know a few folks that used to work for charity, believe it or not. I mean, Dennis Miller worked for our team, right? I mean, this was clearly a Russian agent because he's a conservative. I mean, this is no American person would ever have a vocabulary like that. Let me just say that the guy does have a fabulous, fabulous vocabulary.

It's, natural. Yeah. And it's like you have to go every time you hear him speak for five minutes. You're like, jotting words down, and you're going to look them up afterwards. Like he was on O'Reilly's show a lot. Yeah, yeah, they were buddies. And he was the only one that would, every time would come in and be like, hey, Billy, what's going on? The only person ever to call O'Reilly Billy. But he did it every time. That was the bit.

Like he was just Dennis Miller was and he knew because he was a big fan and his mom was a Sinatra fan. He tell stories about it was my medicine doctor. And I think I think Dennis Miller aspired to that kind of he wanted to be he wanted to be a Frank Sinatra, but rather than the tough guy mobster kind of vibe, he wanted to be the intellectual.

He always came across as kind of drunk ish, but with a big vocabulary to me. Yeah, like he's smiling way too much. He's way too happy. That's what you see. The money he made, you'd be happy to. He didn't, and I never. I never thought he was conservative until years later, finding out he was conservative. Oh, yeah? Well, did it seem that way when he was on Saturday Night Life? No. One of those last specials he did was obvious.

It was, But I think it came down to again, as you get older, you understand more about what's going on in the world and maybe pay more attention to it. The more money you have in the bank, the quicker you become a little bit more because, you know, it's it's fun. Yeah, that's totally not true. I know it's a meme. That or not a meme, but it's a standardly accepted thing that's been around since I was a kid. So, you know, those rich people, their kids are back to such utter

bullshit. Yeah. The more money you make, the more likely you are to be a Democrat, because Democrats are all about creating ways for rich people to get more money. It's it's true. You you start looking at who are the number one demographic of voters for Democrats. Some black people. It's women from families that have an income over $100,000. Give it are those. They get the money. They get 95% of that demographic. And are we possibly seeing a tipping point?

Because do you believe those people once you just described. Yeah. When the guy decide they hate you, I know they hate Trump. Yeah. But when they go to a we're going to go to it. I don't even know what the percentage they're saying is whether it's, you know, 1% or 5% or 20, but the unrealized gets there. Yeah. I don't know how anybody with money, it's only for poor people. We'll see. And this is what the poor people think is what this is never going to happen to me.

Yeah. No it's only going to happen for people because there will be their money. There will absolutely be totally legal ways to avoid the other.

I guess poor people do what they, they make a either a dumb luck or a smart investment in something. And the price goes up, something like, oh, this will be my kid's college fund, right? Rich people don't do that. Rich people will open up a trust that owns assets of a bank, which owns a corporation that owns stock. And there will be a way for all of those parties to show up on paper that they're experiencing losses. Right? So meanwhile, right, their stock values quadrupled.

Now you're the poor family where when you got married, the guy was, I was just going to make a flippant comment like when he was dumb, but maybe that so and spent, you know, five, $10,000 on the engagement ring. But you do realize now Star Citizen vehicle was way better to put it in the Star Citizen ships, because the government doesn't understand where to find those yet. Oh, they will, I will. I'm dropping a dime right now, but to tell them where to find all of ships.

But can you imagine? It's pretty easy. I got a freaking store. It's crazy. Our spaceships to go go ship emporium. I mean, it's not hard to find it, but can you imagine an average couple when the government comes knocking on the door and they're like, hey, is that the ring you bought for $10,000 last year? Yeah. What about it?

Well, we're going to need that 20% of that value. Yeah. And then we're going to come back next year. We're going to do the same thing. And then the year after that, this really is pushing people down the rabbit. We're living in 1984. I've been saying this to multiple people lately because I keep seeing not like, hints of, but downright storylines from 1984. Yeah, you will own nothing and you will be happy. Well, you will, I will say that is the one bit that I think or will get wrong.

Or maybe it's purely because he was living in England, but the misery of people, I think they figured out a way to avoid through drugs. So I think in that regard, Brave New World is maybe a little more accurate, but it's, it other than the misery of the populace, everything else is just falling down in line. But we've always been at war with Russia. What are you talking about? The misinformation game, I mean, well, first of all, there was this chunk of time

for roughly 80 years that there was no country of Russia. No. When was that? And then from the time, in the last century that Russia emerged out of the USSR, the US was very friendly with Russia for many, many, many years. We have until with our hot and we yes, until. Yeah I married one them. So how does that work out? Worked out great for about nine years. Well that's it then. It worked out even better. You can reasonably expect after the divorce. Exactly. Well, you know, they get older.

That's the crazy thing. Yeah. Gene has a, expiration date very clearly marked, like, hey, would you like to start dating? How old are the chicks? Like, I'm 34.5. He's like, well, we got six months. The four and a half people still do have have these. What now? How old were she was 31. 31 is old enough. That was at the top end. That was when I get divorced. Just seeing one. Yeah, I knew it wasn't 40. I mean, you would never make it to 40. No, I think she turned 32. I think she turned 32.

But either way, she was ancient. But it was a, it is crazy how much stuff right now is just paralleling that book. I mean, a lot of dystopian books, not just 1984, but specifically 1984 to me was always like, worst case scenario, right? This is the the book where the government literally will torture people until they start repeating lies. Correct? Right. You that do exactly what they say. You will think the way they want you to.

Yeah. And that, history is something that requires a large group of people to be working on because it constantly needs to be updated

to ensure that the current version of history is always the only version of history you can remember. Michelle Obama told us we were going to have to rewrite our history. And I'm like, at that point, everybody, you see what's going on here because you don't rewrite history. I'm like, you could learn from your history and hopefully make it better. No, no, no, no. Why would you do that?

No, you don't want to don't want to teach history now and then having, having elections be how do we phrase this, based on erroneous information. Yes. And then, having political opponents attempted to be assassinated. Well, that's I am going, assassinated while at the same time being sued. I mean, this is stuff you well, I, I don't know how you did that. I remember reading about in the 80s and laughing my ass. I was like this. How would people be so stupid as to accept a government like that?

Right? Well, it's like it was this back in the day when I first started using the old. Every country has a government they deserve. Because if a country isn't willing to overthrow a government that clearly is illegitimate, then it deserves that government well. And the technology wasn't there when we were kids. There was no easy way to track people on a minute by minute basis. Sure, every now and then you went into a place where there was a camera where maybe you were being surveilled.

But we didn't carry around cell phones. You didn't have any of the tracking devices. You didn't have the internet. So it seemed like such a farcical thing that there would even be a way for the government to keep tabs on people. And now, as you and I have talked about, people buy, security systems and put video cameras in their homes that are inside their homes, that are being monitored by the government. Yeah. Like, oh my God, you're putting the devices in the them watch you and listen to you.

It's like an if you don't think they're using very wisely Alexa shut down for the next two hours. All right. Go ahead. Let's see. It's like that. We don't want to talk to you. We want to know what's going on I will not I am not listening to you. And there's another story the other day about the.

You know, they're calling it a leak, but it seemed like it was just some companies PR that came out that showed they had the ability to listen for keywords on people's cell phones if they installed the right apps. And I don't think this is a surprise to anyone because again, you just use the word the for the Amazon device. That's a trigger. Well people can pay too if the keyword, if you are working in Costa Rican tourism.

Well you can buy keywords for Costa Rica, any country near you or vacation keywords. If anybody mentions those in their day to day life sitting by their phone was that you can send them ads. Absolutely. And they consider that to be totally anonymous and therefore totally allowed it. It's like you don't think this is going on when you have me on the phones. You have cameras and microphones in your house. You know, for your security, there was something that happened.

I can't remember now is maybe three weeks ago. And they think that v12 that, there we go. Take a B12 here on unrelenting. It's very necessary. Put that under your tongue. Let it kind of. I'm. I'm going to talk about it for about an IT professional norm. Right. Anyway, we have not taken the Russian money. No cat we wish we had. Nobody even asked us if we wanted to take the Russian. I know that's the sad part, is like, goddamn it. So, yeah, about as close as we get.

It's Polish money. Yes, exactly. And that's always filtered through some weird thing that, usually comes with comments. You never know where it's coming from. Anyway, something we were talking about on the podcast. Something unusual. So it wasn't like our usual topics of, you know, medical issues and food and real, technology and. No, general, there was something else.

And literally immediately after the podcast, they pop open the browser, did a search for something or went to YouTube, whatever it was. And there you go. There's that topic that I've never mentioned popping up in that interesting. I can't remember for the life of me what it was now, but that type of thing has happened many times over the last decade for me, where

I'll, you know, I'll talk to somebody else about a topic I don't normally talk about, and then all of a sudden there's no getting ads or I'll have video recommendations on YouTube because I pay for YouTube. So it's a, no ads, but they'll start recommending videos on that thing like skateboarding or something. It's a kind of I would never watch that shit, but all of a sudden that's what starts being recommended. So kind of like your Star citizen, right?

It's there because, they probably heard me talk about it with you, and then it's like, well, this is the this is obviously what he wants to find out more about. But I just pulled up on. ChatGPT. Yeah. Okay. What are the main themes of 1984 and how do they relate to today? Okay, totalitarian ism, that's number one. Obviously. The government executes, absolute power over all aspects of life, including thoughts, emotions and even historical facts.

I think we all know that's true and we all know that's what's going on. That's then it says, you know, today many governments infringe on personal freedoms like, you mean like the United States surveillance technology, mass data collection, blah, blah, blah. Then surveillance and privacy is number two. They used tell screens in 1984. I had forgotten that to monitor citizens constantly. It was their TVs were watching them, which was great. Yeah. Real inspiring.

Nobody can escape the watchful eye of big brothers, thought police. Now you think about it, in that time there were televisions that were stationary that were doing it. Right now we carry them with us, right? People carry their own surveillance device with them. Yep. I don't know how many people really ever consider that different. Most jobs work, right? Keeps it in the store.

Most people are in the I don't do anything wrong, why should I care category like well, until you do that, they find you the surveillance and there's literally nobody that does nothing wrong. Vast amounts of data and then points out, including the rise of social media, smart devices and wide spread camera surveillance mirrors the world of 1984, where privacy is almost non-existent. So it's correct about that. Yeah, that manipulation of truth and propaganda. Well, this we know.

Yep. This is going on the new speed limits. Three months, in fact, it hasn't been enforced now for over a decade. It's like yeah, there was the course, there was the new speed. So this is the control of language. You don't see the liberals doing this today. Yeah. Yeah. Well literally terms like like what are they called? So we so the conservative term is fake news. What's the liberal term there was, is reality misinformation information. Right. Like what? What the hell is misinformation?

It's information no matter what. And misinformation used to mean that somebody lied to you, right? It's like. Like I remember when I was at, the, Renaissance Festival in full garb. Of course it was court jester Jean, I don't know, I was, I was a priest, and, even funnier really? Why? We just just think of the kind of. See now as Father Guido. Sadhu Cheerios with the long beard. Yeah, right. So I was a priest, so I would have somebody come up to me and say, father, where's the nearest bathroom?

And that was a drunk person, usually. Right. Well, I would, I would send them following a series of directions around the entire festival that would take at least half an hour to get to the privy. That was two, three, three, four minutes away. Yeah. You get the water because.

Yeah, maybe because, you know, it's like if you're drunk and you come and ask me a question, you're just asking to be fucked with truth. That was misinformation. Yeah, that was intentionally lying to somebody without their understanding that it's a lie. It's still pretty damn funny. Ben. And yes, I used to do the refs scene quite a bit more information. So now I'll check that down on the bingo card. Yeah, yeah. Good luck. An early Renaissance fair. Yeah, but the control of language.

It says in the novel, the party developed new speak, a language designed to limit free thought by reducing vocabulary, thereby eliminating complex ideas and potential rebellion. Tell me we don't have that right now. Absolutely we do. Yeah. Unless you're a Republican, then they've got a lot of words to say. You're up, you're doing these things, you're having these thoughts, and you're and it's an insurrection. If you disagree with what the government's doing. Oh yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

That we have cancel culture of course which would come in. No. Here's the one that is very interesting. I forgot about this one to double think. The ability to accept two contradictory beliefs simultaneously which is essential to the party's control to force the citizen to accept and literally looks at any Democrat and they will tell you that the best thing for them are things that certainly are bad for them.

Well, then Kamala is doing the exact thing with everything she said, like four years ago. Like the last one. Ban straws. Well, no, no, no, she's not for banning straws. I mean a ban on fracking. No, no, she's not going to ban fracking. She's she's the best friend the small business can have is what I hope that's really if you don't like that once you build a border wall. She is I mean, she's borderline conservative is what it sounds like, right?

Well, this is why when you start throwing that, can you imagine if Trump started throwing out all the liberal ideas? The news media would shit themselves? This is kind of what's going on here.

Well, Trump was a Democrat for 85% of his life, but a lot of people were. A lot of people finally woke up. It's interesting. There was another California like top woman in California politics for decades just came out and said, I can no longer be a part of this party. What's going on? More and more, and it goes both ways. I'm sure there are people that grow up Republican who were like, I, you know, they're mean people who say, now the things that we happen.

See, that seems like doublethink to me, but it's the it it's well, here's the double thing that every year, more and more self-avowed liberals get red pilled and become conservative. And also every year the Democrats vote goes up, they import them because it's impossible that they are now, that's for sure. Yeah, the loss of individuality. You mean novel citizens are expected to conform completely? Do the parties demands with no room for personal identity or dissent? The man bad, right.

Eradicate any form of individuality from the right to remember when, Kyle Rittenhouse said, you know, I'm going to write in, instead of voting for Trump, I'm going to write in my favorite politician of all time who's not running, Paul Rand or Rand Paul. Rand Paul. Rand Paul. Rand. I like Paul real. Sounds good. All right. I'm going to write it. Paul. Rand, this way.

I think you said and we're here anyway, where do the Democrats aren't living in a world where there is no personal identity, but they are forcing you to accept the obviously untrue identities of other people just because they say that's their identity. So I don't know if that goes along. Exactly. But it's in the same ballpark. I think. Yeah, I do, there's an awful lot that is writes, like reading 1984 today would not seem like you're reading a fictional book.

You're like, yeah, okay, well, that makes sense. Sure. Okay, here's the next. There's a two more perpetual war, which I and oh, boy, let's understand. We had four years of Trump war. We didn't have any war at all. But, once Biden got it, it says in the novel Oceana is constantly at war with other superpowers, though the enemy often changes without explanation. I think that's been happening. Yeah, yeah, I know Russia, North Korea, Iran, Iraq. Where are we go? Where are we going today?

Yeah, where are we going? Afghanistan. Because the purpose of war is not victory, but to maintain social control and suppress resources. I mean, and that's always been the case. That's amazing. So, okay, I am curious now, what was the exact question that you asked? I asked main point of this was very grammatically incorrect. So I just said main points of the book 1984 comma. How do they relate to today's world?

Really? That's a weird. So you start off with a statement. Yes. Main points of the book, 1984. And then how do they relate to today's world? So I'm assuming that it would give me then the main points and then also tell me and that's what it did. It broke it down into the I would say relate to it how they relate to today's world. Okay. How they relate to today's world. The main points of the book, 1984. If you're playing along at home, comma, how do they relate to today's world?

I want to ask grok would grok says Elon. Yeah. Elon's AI, he's sitting back there and he's ready to pump out all the information. Yeah. Graphics banned in Brazil, apparently. Well, rightfully so. Those bastards. And Tesla is banned in Brazil now. I bet you Elon's crying. There are a lot of people in Brazil, so maybe he is. I don't know, I said this is Brazil is the largest population in South America first of all. Yeah. Which I mean, but might actually be sad that he's using that.

So here's what use here are the main points that grok at number one point surveillance and privacy invasion. That was number two for ChatGPT okay. Number two, manipulation of truth and historical revisionism. Well, this was manipulation of truth and propaganda so close. That was number three here. Number three, language as a tool of control. Newspeak. Exactly. Here. This their fourth was control of language. This is you don't want behind what was your first one?

The first one that grok missed was totalitarianism. Terrorism. Okay. Fourth one for perpetual war. Yeah. For this was seventh. Yeah. This was seventh on this list. This is thought crime and psychological manipulation. The fifth is doublethink. Here. The power of propaganda. Propaganda came in earlier here. That was, And seventh is destruction of the individual, loss of individuality. That was number six for and and what's the details for that lawsuit?

Individually it was your citizens are expected to conform to the party's demands with no room for personal identity or dissent. The party seeks to eradicate any form of individual expression in today's society. It says pressure to conform, especially to digital platforms, can stifle individuality. The rise of homogenized opinions and ostracism of those who dissent can resemble the collective mindset of 1984.

So drag says in the book, individualism is suppressed in favor of collective identity under the party control. Today's world debates over identity politics, the role of individualism versus collectivism in society, and how personal identity is shaped by online algorithms or societal expectations, reflect the same. Now, the last one that we didn't get to with bit was psychological manipulation.

Now, through methods like torture and brainwashing a see with Winston Smith, the party breaks individuals down and forces them to accept the party's reality, even if it's clearly false. That is so what is going on? Yeah. Today Rock says, in today's world, there's growing concern over cancel culture, social media, mob justice, and the stifling of free speech where expressing certain views can lead to social and professional persecution, such as of Elon Musk or Elon.

He does he putting that right into the, I like yeah, I knows it's like Elon's friend, he says. But I mean it is it's definitely his. Well, he's responsible for its life. Oh yeah. But you're correct. I mean, we read this and I believe I read 1984 for school in like 1983 or 1984, because that's the time, that it's on the reading list. At least it was back then. And it was something that was laughed about. You know, it's like, well, this could never happen. This is crazy.

And the fact that you look back on this now and there are a lot of correlations, including the Democrats, and I'm sure the Republicans do it as well. But these political parties that will continue to repeat lies that have been proven to be untrue. Over and over again I'm like, if you don't think that's brainwashing with that, you don't think that is forcing you to accept their reality, then you're missing something.

Hey, this, this speaking of reality, apparently somebody didn't approve CSB artwork yesterday. No, no, I have other things to do, so I don't know. Well, we're not getting any SATs. They. Oh. Oh, no. Very much. Well, somebody else better step up and send in a boost or approve some artwork maybe like, I don't know, it's like, that's not my job to, You can. It is totally your job. I've got the. I've got too much to do.

You sign the job that you failed to do to execute and therefore you're not getting paid. I do the rock and roll pre-show, and then I had to do, somebody asked you to do that? Some pre approved artwork. I had to do some, pre-show, problem solving for the. Oh, there we go. Where he could find the little section now in Windows 11 where you can set your USB devices not to go to sleep, because that's hidden. Now you got to go into the device manager. So I told them, way to go and get that.

So we were doing, like, real time. So you were doing tech support instead of approving out which thing, I guess. And that USB is like, you know, again, this is if you want to talk about the problem with the no Agenda art generator. This is one of them, which I think once somebody and it's like, what is the dude, I'm blanking on the guy's name. Who, who created the generator? Yeah. Sir.

Sir. Paul. Paul. Couture. Couture. Yeah. Now, I have no idea why people who have had multiple art wins still have to go through a fucking approval process before they're posted. This should only be for new people. The only people that might be spamming the thing. Yeah, and the other issue is then the fucking assholes who then go, if you're an artist and you go post something fucking new and you don't approve the stuff that's in the queue, fuck you.

Yeah, I will stop fucking going through and approving your stuff because like, this would be the basic way the system would work. The next time somebody goes in and puts their key, said that you want somebody to approve. Well approve the other ones that are in the queue waiting because any of the artists can do that. It's like the, the whole system. So I just sign up and approve or disapprove things and never similar I think. So which doesn't really lead to a whole hard way to get spam through.

Well I would only make sure art that I like it's approved, took me not CSB. Well, I know I have no problem with CSB. You're the one with the problem with CSB, apparently, because you you failed to do your job yesterday during this system by the thousand. I personally have to opt out of the system is no good. I need to get my budget out. But yeah, the part, the part needs to be free of the talent. Get me out. And you didn't, I didn't, I guess I didn't realize it really.

Me. Me. I only do it when I view my artwork when I submit. This is something that I've been pretty good with CSB. Every time I submit a piece of art, I do go and see if there are things in the queue and then approve them. But I notice other people then who don't do that and I'm like, well, fuck you. If you're going to put a piece out there and not approve the other ones. But the system is flawed. Yeah, it should just be. You have to prove you're real and you're not a spammer.

And it shouldn't be like, well, every piece has to be approved before it can go on the air. It's like, fuck yeah, that. What is the point of the approval in the first place at all? Somebody spammed the system, and this was the way to try to get around. And by spam the system, they just uploaded random junk or what? Yeah, pretty much, you know, random junk or go, fuck yeah. I'm just you could put any messages you want on there and then upload it.

But but yeah, I mean you could definitely do an ad. I mean, we could put Unrelenting Friday. By the way, I do not approve of the cover art for the show. The one for today. Yeah, I don't like it. Oh, well, I just said, give me a spaceship with the big monster on it. It's it's like a six handed octopus. I don't like that. So it it's a problem with how many hands?

The octopus. Yeah. It's incorrect. Everything else is fine. I don't like the duct post. Is there enough fans? But it was just, you know, Dall-E, that's all it was. Cause I don't care. I don't approve it. You don't approve? I we should go back and delete that then. Yeah. Do we can we revise our history? Let's have some, you know, 20 something chicks jumping on a trampoline or something instead. Okay. I just I just go back and find everything from the man show, though.

Dude. No, no, don't even know what that is. No, no, I'm talking about original I or original chicks jumping on trampolines. Non-Existant chicks, preferably with five fingers. Wait, you do you be like five fingers and a thumb? Or do you want four fingers or. Yes, five fingers. And the thumb, of course, for the. You think? I mean, I'm just not sure what you like. Make sure. Make sure they have five fingers. Yeah. It is a, it is a beautiful thing.

The more I play and figure out how to do the tweaking with the new stable diffusion slots. Yeah. And the main thing is getting better is lighting. Where? Well, if that works indicator, it ain't getting better. I saw a fusion. This is. I saw freaking album cameras in the 70s that looked like that. This was a dolly. This is in stable diffusion. This is this is totally different than Dolly is not good. This is the one that's part of the ChatGPT.

I'm gonna have grok make me somewhere or care grok and do that as well. Yeah. The, lighting in the older generators, it was very hard to. You could be like dim light, candlelight, dim, damn, damn dim. And it would not, you know, dark room. And it's always giving you the subject very lit up because it didn't know how to, I guess, create the subject and then make it look like that subject was in a low lighting environment.

Now it seems to have figured that out, which makes things a whole lot more realistic. I was, generating images and like, well, put twinkle lights, you know, along the ceiling and that. And it was adding the glow to the room. I mean, it just very it's very complex when you think about what it's doing to be able to generate images, the static things in the images, the details, but then figure out how they would actually relate to everything else.

So if you have a bunch of like red and green Christmas lights, well, there's going to be a weird colored glow on everything else in the room. And it's getting better at doing that now. So that's pretty cool. And the realism is there. And the check your signal Leech take signal. Signal we got you got let's see here. From better better a bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam signals Vladimir Putin was right. It's an attractive girl in the air. Trampoline.

Much better image for a podcast than the one you provided. So I thought, no, because yours is. We talked about spaceships and, And steered the game. Star citizens, do you not understand the concept of thumbnails? They have nothing to do with the content. Oh, thumbnails is what you get people to go, oh, that looks interesting, girl. And then they play tank top. I get it stuck. They have to be real. Listen to the show. I get it now. It's like, where's the bit about the woman on the trampoline?

And then must be coming up later? And that's and that's the beauty of right. They're going to talk about no doubt. Now if you had that image, if that was something that was created by a stable diffusion method, that's when the Laura's come in and you can go through and then add the face of pretty much any celebrity you want, because they are popping up so fast.

Yeah, that this concept that this was going to, you know, make it harder, which is funny when the base models are like, well, we've made it harder for people to create characters of people that actually exist. It's like bullshit because the systems open source, there's no way to stop this stuff. And the fact that there are more and more states that are coming out. California, the latest, oh, we're going to criminalize deepfakes.

I'm like, we're going to be putting a lot of fucking 12 year olds in jail. And I want to know how you're going to figure out who's posting what to the internet. You know, looking at this image, I think that the, the.

There are two things that are quite realistic. One is the trampoline should still be in its vibration from the last jump. Well it depends, the shutter speed there. You may be catching this, so. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. That's a good point. But you could also tell she's on their way down in the image because the hair is going up. Right. Yep. And, you know, she's got her arms out to bounce off. But I've seen plenty of people doing that. The, the legs would, should be bent, though.

I don't think they would be straight back. No, this looks more the image that was created of her. Looks like it is more from one of these, indoor flying things where there's big fans underneath you keeping all the air. I could see what you mean, but her hair would not be doing what it's doing with one of those fans. It would be all her hair would be straight up, not waving like she's just coming down at a slow pace, and her face would be completely distorted with, waves and ripples from the air.

Friction or not friction. But you know what I mean. Air going across her face. Those things make people look ugly, man. I've got those. Yeah. It's, if you if you're in a place where there's enough wind speed to make you float like we were to know. Pretty much. Yeah, exactly. And the shadow doesn't exactly appear perfect, but there is a shadow, so that's a good thing.

Yeah, it's not a perfect shadow, but at least it was smart enough to stick a shadow and the shadows in the correct place for the sunlight. The sun's from under, right above and to the right of her. Although when you look at how much the shadow on the tree behind is blowing to the left, I don't think that shadow is quite where it would be. But it's close to the shadows on the tree. Could be from a taller tree that's out of the frame. Too true.

You don't know these things. That's. You don't know these things? Yeah, and that's still the coolest thing that Adobe brought to the game. And then everybody else added or maybe they the other people had it as well, which is where you could put this image in and then have it, expanded and guess what was around it? And it's like a lot of the time the end result is pretty amazing.

And I'm not expecting it to be perfect, but it is pretty cool compared to what we had, ten years ago when you were trying to edit a photo. The shadow knows exactly. Right. See Brooklyn that was a great old time radio show. Yeah I always wanted to recreate that again for a little short series on the the no Agenda stream. Maybe we should do that, do a old time radio show and just write a few scripts. Just some cheesy entertainment. It could be fun.

Yeah, it goes right along the lines of audio books. And I think audio books are getting more and more, to be big productions. Yeah, I don't like that. I have to say, I prefer audio books with just one reader. I do too, yeah. Now the radio shows were different because they were presented in a different way. You didn't have a narrator telling the story. It was like television just threw. You couldn't see anybody, so they had to try to put you into a place.

And they for the technology they had when you see, you know, like walking feet in, like on gravel,

that they had like a little gravel pit next to them and somebody had the fuze other hand in there doing all the sound effects as they were doing the show. It's pretty damn cool when you realize they didn't just have a button they could push like we do now. Yeah, they give you a sound effect, but I thought that would be kind of cool, but I did. I tried listening to some of the audiobooks. In the minute somebody else's voice comes in, it freaks you out when it's a yeah, yeah, it's a narration.

Well, listening to a teleplay is, I think different than listening to an audiobook because the in in a, in the teleplay, you're losing one aspect, which is you no longer get to imagine what a particular character sounds like, who like they're doing it for you. And then the the less your imagination is working, the more you're just presented with information.

The the less you're actually creating something in your head and the more you're just consuming this is this is honestly the problem with YouTube and, you know, other visual media is that there there's very little imagination involved. And so you're just like, sucking in information, just data. You're not having to create any. Well, yeah, nothing is left up to you, which is why I and other people didn't. Why? I mean, it's interesting, which is why people like reading books.

It's that it's not up to, you know, it is up to them. I should say it's not up to some arbitrary person to decide what people sound and looked like. Well, before MTV ruined the whole music business. And even when MTV came about. So there was a time obviously there were no music videos, there were live performances every now and then, Ed Sullivan Show or whatever. But I remember being a Springsteen fan back in the 80s when MTV came out.

He fought it for the longest time because he was like, I don't want this. I want people to be able to experience my songs. Like you just said, with their own lens. I don't want to put a visual to it. And this is true with books. Now, if you read a book and you're like, wow, yeah, the main female character, she was really hot. And then it becomes a movie and the actress to you isn't so hot. You're like, well, this is different. This totally ruins it. Yeah, yeah.

Somebody else's idea of how it could be like Taylor Swift or something, right? Exactly. Oh. Did you see her going into the football game? Oh my God, what happened to. No, I sure as hell didn't. It was on the side of the boxer.

It was on off the press. She had a tight tank top on very low cut, a short skirt and red or leather, either red plastic, red leather, thigh high boots on. That was just like, damn, Taylor's all growed up. She's literally middle aged. But for you that's not for everybody. She's literally middle aged. No. For you it's old age. Oh she's she's like 34, 35. That's like. Yeah. She's like in her late 30s, middle age. So yeah. On jeans resetting back to 19.

I mean talking to her back to 19 when she was 19. Jeans just like I need like 20 to what, like 20 to 30. That's when you like to date them you day to marry them and get rid of them between the time they're 20 and 30. So you only marry him once. Did you do that? Repeat that mistake again. I mean, if you had a lot of money, it's, Okay. Okay, so if you have your own money and you do prenups the way he does, why you. There's no reason to not marry him, right?

Yeah. Because he's got, what, like 12 or 14 kids. Yeah. He's obviously been a very busy man. Yeah, yeah, he's, single handedly creating the first generation of Martians. You got to send somebody there. But I was with Springsteen. Be all you. You love kids, It's going to be very incestuous. Don't know how that's all going to work out. You're going to have like five arm people on Mars. But it's not going to be the Martians as long as they have five fingers. That's all true.

And and a thumb or two thumbs. Five fingers. I mean, I don't know why you're distinguishing fingers and thumbs. The thumb is a finger. I, I don't know, usually I wouldn't, four fingers would be what people would say. And the thumb, I mean, maybe again, I could just be strange. That thumb is literally a finger, but. Okay, now you have a woman reaching out while standing on a trampoline. I do like demonstrating. She's demonstrating her hands. Well, this is a big one.

That's the correct number of digits on the hands. And this is where the image creators are also getting better. And this image, the fact that her hands are, are slightly out of focus because they are so close to the camera and she is in focus and the eyes ones behind her, also out of focus does give a much more realistic vibe to it. Yeah, and I will say certainly graphic is, perfect images. I think so far the best one that I've seen, is, the, let's not Nazi one called the, what's the Nazi one?

Jab, jab. I so I he's not aware of gabay. I. Yeah. Well you're aware of gab right? Yes. The social media. Yeah. The social media platform that is, you know, predominantly Nazis, obviously. Well, I mean, they're accused of being they're still not actual Nazis on there, but but, but it was the first of the conservative focused networks for social media, and it got checked off of every platform, including phones, including, Amazon hosting, including literally everything. And, so around.

And now they've got Reich I,

which when I asked for photos but I you said, oh, sorry, but yeah Gabby I which when you ask it for images of the World War two doesn't show you a bunch of like, you know, black people wearing Nazi uniforms, which is all I said. All about what happened then? Yeah, yeah. Why are they distorting the truth? Yeah. Very interesting. It's something all right? Yeah, I don't know, but I want reality, man. Now, the feet are better on this one. This is a whole new way to podcast jeans.

And these jeans sends me photos that you can't see. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. They'll be able to see them. You can include them in the chapters. That's not a problem at all. This is another girl on a trampoline doing trampoline things. And and there's the does not have two thumbs design two thumbs. Women does not have two thumbs to last you thumbs. Yeah, I mean, but I heard Hammond. Oh, no, but her feet are visible. And then, I think a more realistic position for what a trampoline would be.

I mean, I've never tried to recreate the. Have you never had your girls bouncing on trampolines for, you know, was I supposed to buy a trampoline for. I mean, did you not make websites for hot chicks? Yeah, but back then, we didn't have, trampolines. No, we didn't do trampoline. That's said. That's bizarre. Bizarre? This could be a whole new part of the show is, girls on trampolines. Yes. Well, we're going to start our podcast with girls on trampolines.

Yeah. So just take your, if you have photos, you can take them at home. If you have a trampoline, send them in. They featured on unrelenting. Oh, they must have all five fingers on each. And yes, I mean, I was assuming actual real people,

but I mean, if you want them to go with all I, that is fine as well. Is there anything other than. Just reality as opposed to I, I don't know what is reality. I just, I find it interesting that the rocks in my immediate thought when I query for a draw on the trampoline is is not a girl standing up, but a girl horizontal flight. So you didn't add, like, flying through the air to, no, no, not at all. Interesting. Yeah. It's just like, obviously this is what you want. Is somebody flying?

The only way to do it. So we move on off of image review image five. But the whole thing what we're trying to bring this to a whole new audience. We describe images. What what we could do on one of the next shows. I'd be curious to take a couple of images where we try to describe them, and then let the AI, which you can upload the picture and be like, give me the description, see how you mean, like take an actual image that we both have. Yes. And then describe it in as if you were using it

for an AI to try to recreate it. Yeah. And then see how close it comes to the, to the image. There's some fun stuff this could do. But speaking of the AI is there was another story I had pulled here okay for today's show because I saw you doing homework. Okay I know why I saw this. I'm like this is perfect. Musician charged with $10 million streaming royalties, fraud. Using AI and bots. And I'm basically trying to figure out how do we do this everybody. Because this seems like a great deal.

North Carolina musician Michael Smith I don't know why he had to be a musician, but I guess he is was indicted for collecting over $10 million in royalty payments from Spotify, Amazon Music, Apple Music and YouTube music for using AI generated songs streamed by thousands of bots in a massive streaming fraud scheme.

Well, because again, we know that generating the songs via AI is not illegal, but maybe it is illegal to post them on some of these platforms if they specifically say you cannot post AI songs. But I think the biggest problem here was the fact that he built or bought a bunch of bots that were then listening to the music and getting him paid, which I know there's a lot of people, that are musicians that put up music and swear they never get paid anything, so I'm not sure this has.

According to the court documents, Smith fraudulently inflated music streams on digital platforms between 2017 and 2024. So obviously doing this for a long time, Oystein Barrett, he says. Clever guy. And yeah, this obviously was clever because who was thinking of doing this back in 2017? But he wrote with the assistance of an unnamed music promoter and the CEO of an, an AI music company requiring hundreds of thousands of songs generated through.

I uploaded them to the platforms that used automated bots to stream the tracks billions of times. And it's this I thought was great, too, because you've Pooh poohed the whole concept multiple times to avoid detection by the streaming

platforms, anti-fraud systems, Smith ensured his bots use the platform only using virtual private networks. But wouldn't that limit the amount of IPS that you're using? Yeah, yeah, that would go backwards. And it would also put you in new categories with everybody else that is using the streaming through VPNs. In October 2018, he emailed his coconspirators to say, quote, in order to not raise any issues with the powers that be. We need a ton of content with small amounts of streams.

We need to get a ton of songs to make this work around the anti-fraud policy these guys are all using now, so I don't understand what was the coldness money, but how this, Now this is again where I don't understand because it says here at the peak of the operation, he allegedly employed over a thousand bot accounts to boost the streams across platforms. So he had bots listening to the music through these platforms.

And he said he emailed himself a financial breakdown outlining how he operated 52 cloud service accounts, each with 20 bots on them. So he had ten. So he's doing this somewhere where they're paying for every play, right? Very small amounts. And he was creating bots to play. Yes. He estimated each account could stream approximately 636 songs a day, because, again, there's only so much time. So each bot, even though you have a thousand of them, they could only listen to 600 songs a day.

But according to what the math is, then that 661,000 streams with an average royalty rate of a half a cent per stream, he calculated his daily earnings would reach $3,300. Go figure. 33 is the magic number monthly of 99,000 and annual earnings exceeding 1.2 million. How is that at a half a penny per unit? The frickin bots and infrastructure in all tricity gotta cost more, you would think. I have no idea. I would think, but you know, this whole thing. And then, of course, this is not journalism.

It's from Bleeping Computer. Yeah, well, it's fake news is what I say. A number he collected more than 10 million in royalty payments, but that may be absolutely fake news. It sounds fake to me, because I remember doing this with Dropbox and Dropbox or started they had a promotion where for every new person you could get to sign up under your account was a pyramid scheme, right?

You got to bring people to you will get an additional like hundred megs or ten megs or something, some amount of extra storage, some amount of megs, some amount of megs on your account. Back when megs meant something. And I remember this, challenge accepted. So I got on, Amazon's,

their server platform and, Now, granted, now, even the way I'm describing this, I'm thinking about it in my head, I'm like, dude, I have not like, done anything with AWS in so long. I don't even remember the damn terminology. But essentially I wrote a script that would spool up a brand new server on Amazon, and it would set up an email, server for itself and then have a random email address in the domain that I owned. And then it would use my link to sign up for drop bots.

And then it it got the email and confirmed that it was a live person by replying back in a standard way to the email or clicking on the number, whatever the hell I think it was clicking like. And once it did that, once it was essentially proved that it was a real person signing up. And remember, these didn't have to be paid subscription zero. Just get people's user service right and we will increase your. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And will increase your capacity for free for every person.

And once it was done doing all that then that instance would be deleted and a new instance would get pulled up and I could spool up new instances for free, as long as I wasn't using more than a certain amount of bandwidth and a certain amount of computing power, which these clearly were not, because they were each created for a very specific task, and then they could be deleted afterwards. Right?

They do things themself and re and the reason that I was deleting people, so I didn't just create a bunch of fake council emails or, well, the reason I was deleting them is because somebody in a raid tried doing this and they started tracking IP addresses. So I need to get randomize IP addresses as well, which creating a brand new instance of Amazon did. So interesting that that skipped around. So this was totally legitimate. I will say there was nothing wrong with what I did.

It was not yet against the terms of service. It was not yet against the terms of service. It was extremely creative, and mostly it was just a fun way to watch the amount of space that I had just constantly be increasing, which was pretty cool. Now my buddy did a totally different spin on the sake that we found. But before you tell me that, did you still have this amount of space? Do they let you keep that? Or is this now long gone?

It's long gone because at some point during the last 20 years that they've been around, I needed to increase the size of my account multiple times. And when I think probably the first, maybe the second time I did that, the additional free space went away. They gave you a little notice saying that, you know, any previously required free space will no longer apply once you upgrade. Now that you're paying us, we were not oh, let you get the free stuff.

But I mean, it was like you probably will get ten megs or something, some ridiculously small amount forever. That's why I had to do it. I don't, you know, and an automated way. Right? Yeah. Because that way I would get now what my buddy did was, was quite creative as well. Totally legitimate.

More legitimate than my way is, he posted ads in other languages on, Craigslist kind of services in other countries for, hey, if you if you get, if you sign up here for this service called Dropbox, then you get like, you know, a 100 free or something, whatever it was. Basically, he wrote an ad for them and then found ways to put that ad into places where he didn't have to pay for that to be shown.

No. Nice. And that worked unbelievably well, because he actually surpassed me and my script by having actual legitimate people. But people, none of whom spoke English by doing the real work, by, well, but by having, you know, guys in, Botswana signing up for their accounts or whatever, want and need data storage. They do, they do. So and again, this was like, I don't know, 20 years ago, 18 years ago, whatever. I think it was, it was a long time ago. We can look up whenever Dropbox started.

This must have been in the first year of their operation, as my guess is that they decided to create this program where they get really desperate. Like, please bring those to people. I'm like freaking Uber food, which only gives you ten bucks for signing up a new person. You're like, that's not enough, that that's not like I want to like, I could sign up a few folks for 500 bucks. Yeah, yeah, make do it and then have it roll up. So, hey, if you get to even get more.

But ten bucks a person is just not enough to bother scheming any kind of a software deal. Speaking of ten bucks a person, I would like to thank Wheely Wawa for coming in with $10.80 of support for today's show. Here on unrelenting, that is a monthly donation. And Kevin Cipher for coming in with his $5 monthly donation. It's the start of the month, $15.80 for all of this. Great. How are you? Tracking those monthly is. They're not really for this show. You know, they are.

They come in through PayPal and they say unrelenting. Oh, I see what you mean. For this show amongst your other shows. I see what you mean. But what I mean is they're not for this episode. Well, they're in there for my last two episodes. So yes, but they're meant that you really have to just allocate like $1.25 per episode. Is that how it works? That's how it works in real world. Yeah. So like they came in for this episode. If you have a monthly donation, then that donation get out.

If they want to do that for donations and they space them out by a week apiece, then then the you want people to take more of your money. Okay. They do. They do it anyway. It's better than not getting any money. I mean, I would highly recommend that you just send a girl on a trampoline with cash to your house. Exactly. That's the best way to send money. So you could forget the cash. That's fine. Your girl with cash, that's even better is that you could order a pizza. Something like that.

But we appreciate that. Unrelenting. That show. I don't know if this are a slash. Don't just go to unrelenting that show. All the information you need is right there. And we don't have any boost from that other guy because he's, on his period. Now that why you're not outside like that but because dude you're is, you're just like trying to piss him off at this point right now. Why are you telling him. I thought it was under cover. I was under cover brother.

There was another story that, kind of concerned me that seems to be going underneath the, No, you're right. That's exactly the last image you sent. That's what I like over at the house. That would be fine. Then we had talked about this on Grumpy old Ben's, I believe, when this happened. Maybe on the show, two, two Nigerian men sentenced to 210 months, 17.5 years in prison in Michigan over their roles in an online sexual extortion scheme. Now, here's basically what happened.

Idiot 17 year old kid got a message from these Nigerian scammers, these dudes who either created an Instagram account or whatever, or they stole one, got the dude to send them a nude photo of himself, and then they threatened if he didn't pay $1,000 that they were going to release it to his family, friends, to the public. I mean, that's that is like the oldest scam in the book. Yes, yes. Never show anybody your junk. This is very good. Kids do not do that.

I never understood that in the first place. Right. Like is a go. Is the idea that somehow real girls get a look at your your cock and go, oh my God, I've never seen one that incredibly beautiful. I want that inside of me right now. It is just insane. Like dick pics make zero sense. No, I don't want a pussy pic either. Like that's not the first thing I want to look at you do. I may not want to look at it ever. You're like, can we just get a full on package? That's fine. But even then.

So that's what the kid did. Now, if you're going to send it, don't put your face on a kid. But oh my God, it's insane. If you have a random female, especially the random attractive female that shows up on the social media and it's like, here's a new to me, send me one of you. Don't do it. No. But then the kid killed himself, and that's what they're holding. These guys are responsible for. Oh, nice. Nice. And I think this is bullshit. I feel sorry that the kid's dead.

Yeah, but, yeah, I mean, it's a good lesson. This is not something that, you know, where the slippery slope on this go is. Remember the girl who was dating the guy that killed himself? This happened about a year or two years ago, and they put her in jail for the same kind of thing. And, yeah, hers was even more egregious because it seemed in her case, where there were like a thousand text messages from the guy going, oh, I've had enough.

I'm going to kill myself. And she's like, no, don't do that. You have a lot to live for. I'm going to kill myself. No, don't do that. You have a lot to live for. I'm going to kill myself. Okay? Do it. And then he did. And then they held her responsible. Yeah. It's like, what do you fucking expect? You cannot hold other people responsible for somebody's suicide. This is a that's not true.

So according to U.S. law, it if you're if you are in the process of committing a felony, actions that you commit that lead to somebody else's death, even if you didn't do it by having your hands in their, still make you guilty. Now, if you're not engaged in committing a felony, then that's different circumstances. But if you are trying to rob a bank and the person in that bank has a heart attack, you're going to get hit with murder.

But I don't think this is that same thing historically been the case. You tell somebody you're going to blackmail them. Yeah, for under $1,000, which I'm thinking this. I'm seeing California with people walking out of all the stores with knife. They should have asked for $999.99, because then you would keep it at a lower level under a thousand. Yeah, but this concept that they're responsible because this is it's extortion. I mean, that's definitely felony.

But we are literally going to foreign countries and having them extradite people to charge them like this. But you know, what's not being charged in this country, which also doesn't make any sense.

But I'm like, you cannot in a case like this where this is what I brought back to as well, if I had the technology that we have today, when I was in high school, this is exactly what me and my friends would be fucking doing to each other is trying to fucking catfish them, embarrass them and be like I you said before, I know, you fucking idiot. Yeah, well, now you go to jail for that, which is bullshit. You cannot be held responsible for what somebody else does.

I mean, you can if you're in the act of committing a crime. But this isn't like that. What part of the crime was in the act of extortion? I don't buy that for a minute. You don't have to. It's the law. It doesn't make. Your opinion is irrelevant in the matter, sir. So if there was no extortion and they still got the guy to send the dick pic, and then they released the dick pic and he killed himself, then there was no extortion.

So that was, you know, they charge him with, no. Then you charge them with better pedophilia because they're distributing, you know, child.

But here's the thing. The child porn, obviously much lower criminal penalties than what they got here. Yeah, yeah. So, like, you know, well, and that brings up another point. So I'm curious to see what your opinion is because I know what my other co-host is and a difference for mine. I mean, good name, bad name, bad over on that good old boy show. Two good old boys that come just you good old, just good ol boys. I always forget to just. I think that's because, Jeffrey.

Because it's his job, dude. It's job. You got to remember that. But good old boys, that's the justice, AJ. Yeah, but the. That's what I said every time job, every time these boys, every time I write something and include the word just in it. Every one of these writing aids, like, get rid of it. Take that. I'll take that out. The writing ads don't work. They don't them. That's why I'm like, forget it. Yep. Just two good old boys just to get old boys. That guy.

So did you see that there was a shooting in Georgia? Yes. With the kid that looked like he wanted to play the girl. Blond hair. Yeah. Or a girl. Yeah. And, apparently they they managed to not kill this one. They they captured the shooter. Usually they want to go out in a blaze of glory. Yeah. He wasn't good enough. No. And then they now have, filed, and they are charged, I should say, his father with, two murders. Yes, I saw that, and. Yeah. And the kid is 14, so he's, clearly a minor.

Not not barely a minor. Definitely a minor. And so what is your take? Do you think that that makes sense? That they would charge the father as well in this case? Much more likely because the father has admitted the gun was purchased for the kid, and the gun was purchased for the kid after they were contacted by the FBI, who told them the kid has an issue. And, with school shootings, he was obsessed with school shootings, had made threats allegedly on some, gaming platform.

But I was just having this conversation over breakfast with the wife after I made this beautiful omelets, beautiful omelets. I mean, you can get a better, So you see the rationale for charging the father in this. In this case, I do. But there are other cases.

Now, if you are a responsible parent and you have the same type of guns, and you have them locked up, and your kids still takes one, then I don't think they should be charged, because the reality is you're never keeping anything like that safe from your kid. Even if you're like, I always keep the key with me, blah, blah, blah. That's why I ask my wife. I'm like, was there anything in your house when you were growing up that you didn't have access to? And she's like, no, I'm like, me neither.

I mean, I guess you could go, you know, an extreme measure. But, you know, at some point the parents going to leave the key for the gun case if the kid really wants to, he's going to run down to the, you know, hardware store and get a second key made, whatever it is, if he takes the thing without the parent's consent and the parent did something to try to keep that from happening, I don't think you can charge the parents, but I go in a slightly different area.

If it's like your kid's already been targeted, we know that there's maybe a mental health issue here, and if you give him a firearm and you give he always has access to that firearm, then I think you do hold some responsibility. Where did you come down on this one? Yeah. So I well, let me say where Ben came down first and we'll talk more about it. Obviously on the podcast you can listen to it. He can speak for himself there. But in a nutshell, from what I gather, it'd be wrong.

But from what I gather, his point is you should never charge somebody who wasn't involved in a crime. For that crime, you only charged the people actually involved in the crime. So charging a parent for, for murder at a place he wasn't and doing things that he wasn't. He wasn't the one pulling trigger of the tool. That is the gun is asinine. And it should be obviously legal. You cannot be charged for a crime you did not participate in. It would be his attitude.

No, mine is actually on the other side of that, which is for a minor. You as a parent have full responsibility for the actions of that minor. If that minor steals your car and then kill somebody with it, it is your responsibility and you will be the one to pay for that. And the reason I say that is because I think way too many people think that their job is done when they poop out a kid, right? And it's like, okay, well, I guess he lives here, so I have to buy him food.

But that's about the extent of my involvement. And then it's the school's responsibility to teach him right from wrong. Well guess what? Teachers currently in school working there have blue hair and don't know there a difference between right and wrong. We know that because we've seen tons of video. You don't mean they're old women. You mean they're like idiot 20 year olds with blue? Yeah, or pink or you name a random combination thereof, or a rainbow colored hair.

It's not an attractive woman that would ever want a date. Well, I mean, I have dated somebody with blue hair before, but love gets guessing anyway. Blue hair? Yeah, but I think there is a different one. You're always going to be responsible from a civil aspect to your right. If your kid goes and mows a bunch of people down in the car. Yeah, you're the one getting sued. The kid's not. It's not just about the kid getting a hold of the gun. So the gun to me is a minor part of this.

Like plenty of parents buy their kids guns. Very few kids actually go and shoot somebody. Correct now. But the question is, was it the easily accessible for the irrelevant? It doesn't matter is it really is because really does. Parents are responsible if they have a weapon for keeping it out of the kid's hands. That makes sense. It's the kid's gun.

But if it comes down right, if it's the kid's gun that the parent did corroborate was a part of the crime because they provided the child with what they needed to do. And you're focusing on the wrong thing here. You may say. So it's like, look, doesn't matter if I want to fucking go nuke Iran, right? And I'm like, geez, I thought I only had a nuclear weapon. And I'm like, wait, Gene's got a guy, he's got a nuclear warhead guy.

And that guy tells me it's called Ben, man, is that Ben Salisbury, the nuclear warhead? And then I set off that nuke. Well, you don't think he's going to be charged as the person to provide the, Oh, the defense. Did you pay cash? Did you. Bitcoin all on Bitcoin all big. Then you're good. Then you're good to go. Yeah. Yeah. No that's my point here. I mean you could look at it from the standpoint that the father should have known the kid is psychotic and therefore should not have a weapon.

I totally agree with that. However, the weapon is not the issue here. The issue is that he raised a child that lived with him because I did a little digging into this. This was not. He is divorced, but the boy lived with him, not the mother who was not aware. Yeah. And so he's like, fuck, I'm clear now. She she's actually, a a drug addict. Oh, nice. Sorry about that. Yeah, she's on meth and, and, and she also has the two other kids. He's the oldest kid.

And so the father is responsible for the actions of the kid. I think that is the main point. Not the gun access or anything else. It's that if if you raise a child that ends up going off and psychopathic murdering other people, you hold the primary responsibility for what that child is until the mental summer of 18 or until the magical age of 18. Yes, exactly. That's a good point. Is after 18, you know, responsible.

But, and and certainly supplying the child with tools to do psychopathic things doesn't help your case, but it's not the main point for me. The main point for me is every parent has responsibility for their children when children fuck up. And this has happened in minor ways, right? When you get somebody, it's a bully. And then that kid beats up another kid and I kid, they got beat up, shows up at home and explains what happens to their parents.

Parents don't go and beat up the kid that beat him up. The parents go to talk to that kid's parents and say, what the fuck, dude? Why are you raising your kid in a way where he's doing this kind of shit to my kid? And if you don't fix it, if you don't control your kid, then we're going to get law enforcement involved when you are. There was a case not that long ago where the mother of a girl that was getting beat up by another girl. Yeah, did kick the girl. That's what the judge. That's not.

That's not as well she should have. Yeah. You can't do that. It's like that's, Yeah. You don't want to. It's. Kids are like pets in that regard. If you have a dog that goes in attacks, a neighbor could child. Well, this is it. You're always been and that child dies. The difference? It's not a dog that's responsible. It's you that's responsible. It's usually this is a civil thing. Dog gets put down. It's only criminal responsibility.

If you had something to do very specifically, you know, knowing the dog was a danger, that maybe knowing your kid was a danger, you know, but there's it becomes there's a lot of gray areas. It's called absentee parents. And a lot of them are. Yeah. And I think it's about time that these people start going to prison lock up. And this is this is where they lock like my parents. This is where I think I differ from Ben just running into the microphone I did. Yeah.

Did you tell. Yeah. I thought you may have hurt yourself. Then I got excited, man. No, I, I kind of bumped into the mic. Yeah. This is where it differs. So Ben's got kids. I don't have kids. Ben's response is going to be, well, you don't have kids. You know what I'm saying? This. My point is, I don't need kids to be able to hold somebody else responsible like it's it is yours. If either you're responsible for your kids or you're not.

If you're not responsible for your kids, then there's nothing wrong with a stranger in a white van luring your kids away. You know it's not your responsibility. Doesn't matter. They're not your kids. They're your kids. But you pooped them out. You're done with them. If you're responsible for raising your children until the magical age of 18, then you are responsible for the actions of those children. Yes. It doesn't.

It doesn't matter if you said yes, I agree you should go and kill all those kids in school. Or if you said don't be an idiot, don't kill those kids in school. If the kid still goes and kill somebody at school, it's your responsibility for being a shitty parent. Yeah, civilly. But it's never been enforced. It hasn't been enforced. That's totally not the case. There are a couple in Michigan, right? Last year gave the gun. That was the difference.

I think that was the difference maker was they provided the gun to the kid. It wasn't. It was well gone. And he got a hold of it. It was I think this is going to be the case with this case as well, where the father provided the gun. But I think that's that's the wrong thing to focus on because that is what they are focusing on. And that's well, it because that because they're trying to ban all guns is why they're free.

Because the courts are too afraid to say responsible for if there was no gun that could have been provided to the kid, because those guns are illegal and no one should have them. Problem solved. Right? No. Here's the same that right. This is exactly why I said okay. California is just making this the other deepfakes thing illegal. So when you have a 12 year old kid, make a deepfake and put it out there. I agree with you. The parent should be the one going to jail.

And then no kids will have cell phones. It'll work out gloriously because a parent is responsible for what their kid does. Then they take a different look at what's going on. And this is where I think it's about time issue is that back in my day, if you fucked up your parents, we're going to make your life pretty miserable. Yeah, to make sure you understood that. And if you go back further, I guarantee you, you go back 100 years.

If somebody's kid 100 years ago went and shot somebody in school, his dad would be the one to shoot the kid. Probably his dad would literally kill the kid and the neighbors would say, served him right. That was frontier justice. Maybe that was frontier justice. And I'm not saying we're quite returning to that, but there has to be more fucking accountability for the parents. Way too many things go unpunished for the people that enabled the behavior.

Yeah, a lot of those, just like you said, turned a blind eye. I didn't pay any attention to what was going on with the kids. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't have to be an active encourage. It could be a passive ignorance of what we imagine, what that would do to the city of Chicago, where you have 12 and 13 year old gang bangers that when they get caught that the parents go to jail. But only the mothers. You think, think well, right. If you can't find the fathers, I get there. We have no idea.

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