127: Too Much Chicago Talk

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Hello, and welcome to unrelenting, episode number one, two, seven. I am Darren O'Neill, and he is. I always like to see you. How do you keep track of all those episodes? The. Every time I save the audio file, the number just goes up, and then what I do, okay, for the next one is I just open up the last one and then just delete the audio and change the number by one. Oh, well, it's a decent system. It's not quite automated, but it's a fairly easy way to make sure you keep the numbers.

Every now and then you'll add a zero or something weird like that. You're like, I don't know what's going on. Yeah, if Buzzsprout didn't remember that shit and tell me, I wouldn't know. And I have, text files for most of the shows that I do the same thing.

If I have notes. Of course, for this show, there's really the only notes that there would be, would be if there were any donations. And since there aren't a lot of times I could go 4 or 5 shows without updating the notes file. But Planet Rage always updated. Random thoughts, always updated. Grumpy old bands when it's going is always updated. But there's now no it's a different beast. Sure is. We were, trying to get together a crowd. Well, interest. Want to see what the interest is?

And you're no longer on the set of Earth. Man, we need to get you on Planet Rage, dot. Social. So that way you can now do the Fetty Nef.

Don't need me. Because even your co-host dude named Ben named Ben answered real. Because Adam brought it up again in the show yesterday that people had talked about doing a like a mega, no agenda con. So like a mega meetup kind of a thing. Yeah. And I'm like me, I think I talked about that many times in the past. And then I kind of dropped off and I'm like, well, if it was going to be done, you'd have to gauge the interest in planet.

It's not something you could plan like a month out or I don't even think six months out. I think you have to go like a year, a year, okay, to get everybody's schedules in sync and figure out how many people would be coming in, because, you know, if you could do comic con in those kind of things, I can see that you would have a, a few different things going on at the same time.

But it would also then question two main things. One, I'm pretty sure if there was a crowd coming, the pod father would come in. I don't know if we would get JCD out of his house, but otherwise I was like, well, the the podcasters that are in the periphery. And that's why I was going through the list and I sent that to everybody on the fetty that was there, which was almost all the podcasters on the stream except you, including your buddy dude named Ben named Ben.

And I'm like, hey, if we did this, who would be interested in doing it? And dude named Ben. Then Ben said he'd be interested in coming in to Chirac. So I'm thinking if he would come in, you would probably come in. Yeah. Really? Yeah. That's shocking. Leave Texas. Well, nonetheless, somebody else paying for it, you know that. That says you did it twice a national. No, nobody has done this. Nothing that I am talking hotel. I am talking convention room. I am talking panels.

I am talking merchandise. I am talking excitement. Well yeah, nobody's interested in that. It's interested in excited. I think that if it were to happen there, there are two likely cities for it.

One is Washington DC, because that's where most listeners live. The two is, the peripheries, let's say, of San Francisco, because that's the only way you get JCD to show up. Yeah, that's not going to happen. See if if I'm the one spearheading this, it's going to be in Tinley Park, Illinois, which is in the Chicago suburbs where there's plenty of convention space very convenient for trains, planes and automobiles. Yeah. No one wants to go that route. Nobody wants to go anywhere but at central.

No, it's not central. It's the middle of nowhere. I don't think you know what the middle of nowhere is. It's just straight up from here, up north, right? Yeah. So you watch that. So that would make you in the middle of nowhere. And we are exactly nowhere. So you are in the middle of nowhere. No I'm self nowhere. Thank you very much. But that the other issue with making it you're out is that we don't know what the passport situation is going to be between Texas and you guys by a year ago.

I don't yeah, I don't have a, real ID, so I have to have it in Chicago. It's the only way I can show up. The. There it is. That makes total sense. Well, and let's also be honest, I do more hours on the no agenda stream than anybody. Oh, that's absolutely the case. You should call it no agenda con. I should call it Darren o con featuring no agenda. That actually is even funnier. Yeah, and that would be hilarious. Big graphics, big pictures of me like Chairman Mao or something like that.

Like Kim Jong, just all over the place. That'd be fun. But Billy Bones, you know, from the walk from the booth mine. He said he'd be all in on it. Van drew said he'd come in. Larry said he would come in.

So really, this could turn out to be a Darren. Okay. If you and Larry came in, we would just have to get them. Roseanne, it is Darren. Okay, let's say you just said it. It would be awesome. There is no kind there. That's a car. No, wait. Yes it is. It's all com got there. It's all a big god. But it's like, oh, can I. No I agree with what Adam said. On no agenda yesterday is when people talk about this, everybody wants them to do a live no agenda.

And we understand that wouldn't work because no, that's not really a show that would totally do it live with an audience. No, you could do you could do a show that they could release on the stream. They can just do a Prairie Home Live. I know how it works. But you wouldn't be a normal no agenda. What you would have is a supplemental show where people can then interact, ask questions, do all that kind of stuff.

Oh God, though you don't have the audience asking questions, you have the audience paying for tickets. Well, that too, but you see, okay, see, now you're understanding. Can you pay for tickets? One ticket to get in the door. You pay for another ticket if you want to ask questions. And three, yet another ticket if you even want to shake Sabine Rosa's hand. No. Yeah, right. So good luck on that. That's another ticket entirely. There's going to be a lot of tickets he charges.

And sushi for you. Break. If you bring him a plate of sushi, he will sign your grumpy old Ben's bathrobe. And it's just a thing. Yeah, yeah. Good luck. I am just testing the waters and oddly enough, and how it goes, there were a decent amount of podcasters interested, which I think would be necessary to make it happen.

I would propose that you first do a planning meeting in person, and get a feel for how many people actually would show up from the hosts, because my guess is one a planning meeting of hosts, which yeah, people are casually saying, oh yeah, no.

Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah. I'll fly out to, Chicago. Let's do this. Hey, you saying Sir Spencer and Dame Delorean are not telling the truth? Are you saying it's easy to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a great idea. I love it, do it. I'll show up. Oh, you know, we had a thing come up. I could make it. Sorry. Right. You got to have the. Well, this is where the, contracts come in, and, Oh, the contracts. Yes, yes, the contracts by penalty of death. Right, right.

Well, it's a good thing you're picking up travel, so that's good, though. Yeah. Nobody's going to cure needs of risking that. That he's like, that is the most central place in the country. No, Chicago is really not a Kansas City is really. But we have people that come out of Canada. So this is where Chicago becomes way more central. Yo, you include our Canadian brethren. Who's that? Well, cold asset. But he said he couldn't come the first year but he's totally another. Yeah, yeah. There you go.

There's a man telling the truth right there. There's Carolyn Blaney. He might come in. Who knows? Yes. Yes, that says Detroit would be safer than Chicago. Yeah, the city itself, I would agree, which is again, why I would say Tinley Park, Illinois, the suburbs of Chicago. No crime problems yet. I mean, in a year, you never know. It all depends who's president. Yeah, I mean, I, I applaud your enthusiasm. I didn't say I was all that enthusiastic.

I just said I was floating the more enthusiastic than other people said I was. I was floating the idea and got more positives than I was expecting. And by positive, do you mean people just saying, yeah, good idea. Well, I believe Larry, because, you know, Larry wouldn't lie. And I believe Van Drew for the same reason. Now, it would all depend on a drew loves things. He does not tell anyone. He's smart. He does not. He's a he probably lives in Chicago.

No, no, if he did, I'm sure I would have heard that. I would hope because I'd be like, man, let's go hang out, man. Let's go look at microphones, man. Let's just geek out on microphones. I can I think I have his address, to be fair, but he does not tell anybody where he is located. He doesn't use his real name. Right. He was the smart one getting into podcasting. Going. That I'm not kidding, is my real name. You know, everybody did that except for you.

I know if Adam Curry and John see the Barack. Okay, guys that brought in the audience use the name that they used to bring in audience, you have no idea what John or Adam's real names are, sir. Remember? Says I noticed you didn't invite me. Goes. Well, that's true. I don't know what that is. He's, He's a guy on the stream. He's what? The one liberal show on the stream that Ben Rose runs. And the funny thing is, he lives in the Chicago area.

But the guy, I've used walked him to buy a ticket, but, but, I mean, I'm guessing we would just have to, right. Have to drop him from the stream before then. Just to be fair, I love your, your concept of having panels, but, I don't know, maybe autograph signing panelists as well. No kissing booth for Eugene. So all the women can come by and pet the beard if you want the beard. Totally a different ticket if you want to pet the beard. Oh, absolutely. I'm not splitting that take.

I think there could be. If the pod father came, definitely. He would have to have a panel, because that would be a thing that people do at cons. They go, they ask questions, blah, blah. But I also think if you do have Sir Spencer and Dame Delorean and maybe our buddy blueberry and Lab one the other, probably people that live in that area that would show up to this site. The that's the question. There were what how many people were at the Nashville meetup? Was there like 100 or something?

Yeah, that was just for a meet up. That was a girl that wanted to show up and, you know, have some hot dogs in the park. Yeah, the awesome the one that he did way back when, like four years ago or five years ago, where dude named Ben claims to have met me. I think he's lying. Wait, you have a different origin story with dude named Ben named Ben than he has with you? Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. I don't remember meeting him back there. I don't think we've ever met, but he thinks you have.

But he thinks we have. Interesting. So he's. He's either psychotic or you are or he's a super fan. Oh, that could be. Yeah. And he just was begging to do a show with you. And he was. I mean, this man just need to get on the podcast. And with these Southern Texans talk, right? Yeah. Yes, yes. Gender act. That's how Texans talk. So yeah Texas accent like this. Yeah. All you gotta do is hold your teeth together and then you talk just like a Texan. Yeah, yeah.

The last time John was in Texas, well, actually, he did come down for Adam's wedding. I was gonna say is probably it was president, but, no, he did come down for Adam's wedding for that. All I see down here, a bunch of steers and query boys. But I would not be surprised if, And that's the beauty of this, which is, I don't know the best way to gauge real interest. You bring up a good point, because I would not be surprised if 20 people showed up.

And I also wouldn't be surprised if 2000 people showed up. Oh you're insane. Of course I'm insane. But I don't really know. I mean, we have bigger towns with real, audiences have smaller number of people showing up. Bigger towns. Yeah. Bigger podcasts with, you know, bigger cities like Nashville and Austin. Well, this Chicago is actually bigger. It's not Chicago. You're not in Chicago. It's not in Chicago. You can't say Chicago. It's not suburbs. Chicago suburbs. It's 100 miles away.

No, it's not 100 miles away, but might as well be. It's like you're not 35 minutes away via from the, if you want to know how long is the Uber ride from O'Hare to your house? Like 35 minutes. Okay, how about without lying? No, that's about it. That is about it. I mean, if you really wanted to, you could have it in Rosemont, which is where O'Hare is. But we're, we're about 35 minutes from both midway or O'Hare. No one slides into midway. Yeah they do people do flying into midway.

If you come off west especially. Yes. That's no one slides southwest. First of all, nobody at all. So horrible line. But they do. It's quiet. It's it's not a real airline dude. Nobody flies southwest. This is one of them. Just the thing you see commercials for. It's one of the best landings in all of America. It is one of the shortest runways for a major airport anywhere, and the plane basically hits the ground and hits the brakes. It's a beautiful experience.

I know I've I've been there, but it's a yeah, I that's it does not where I would do an event like I said I would do it in Washington DC. So be convenient for people like you. Just drive there and you have a decent audience showing up. But Membros is way more convenient for Washington DC than Chicago that he would have to pass through to get to Washington, DC, which was another like ten hours away, or in San Francisco because you want free needles and poop?

No. Be on the outskirts of San Francisco, just a mere half hour, a mere city five minutes from the airport. So it's not a really it's you drive from, just effects. You can take the B12, man. Yeah. You need the B12 now. It's a bad idea. I don't like it. It's all a bad idea, but it's just. Just the location. I think the event idea is not a bad idea. I think getting it kind of happened.

I think, the first time Adam did an event, I think other podcasters showed up and there were people talking to other podcasters just not doing the event because I don't think he was there. But I don't think that, I just, I don't think that, like, two hours away from Chicago makes sense for this event. I don't think, you know how much two hours away is, because two hours away is about 20 miles. You have no idea.

I mean, again, if you come in during rush hour, it could be, it could be bad, but nobody really wants to come in during rush hour. Exactly. Nobody wants to come in there. You're totally right on that. Everybody wants to come into the beautiful city of Chicago. So Spencer wanted to come in just to go see the. Let's do the Chicago. Then you're talking about Chicago, then that's even further for you. So that doesn't make any sense. Nobody wants to go into the city limits because you know what?

Everything is? It costs more as well. Exactly what would be beautiful. Let's go get a hotel right on the, lava lake so we can pay, like, $800 a night. That would be great. People with. I don't know, I think I think they're still holding my room. Are you filling out the, If you're going to pay for the place for the, ballroom? Because it's probably going to be about ten times as much down there. I think they're desperate, dude. Not much happening in that city these days. There's writhing there.

That's about exactly. There's all sorts of fun stuff going. Yeah, back. Back in my day. Back, I used to stay on Wacker Drive in a back and you would smell the, It was a chocolate. It was great. I'd stay in the Executive Plaza and I could drive, and, 32nd floor. I had the windows facing the river so I could see all the little people walking around. Well, I mean, yeah, because you're far away, right? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And, and the smell was perfect.

I would walk out there, I would walk by the House of Blues. I smell that that beautiful Chicago chocolatier. I mean, what the hell happened, dude? What happened to that city? All of the candy makers have left. I believe there were a few that were around for a while. And there was one. There was a chocolatier down in that area, so it might have been the one. And they made the chocolate for all of the schools that would, like, go sell candy bars, to raise money, you know, for their field trip.

This was the company that did that. They worked on right off the, lake. They were right off the Chicago River, I think, there for like 100 and something years. They finally had to close. Yeah. And now casinos will be moving and nothing to worry about. What could go wrong. Oh, casinos. Oh, well, what about prostitution? Ones that literally. Well, that's always been there. Now, with the casinos only on the lower level, Wacker Drive, all that level.

Oh, come on, man, that's where the discount prostitutes were. That's when you did that. When you could pop into the Billy goat, get a burger, and then get a meth addicted prostitute on your way out. And. That's right. But the burgers were good. I would say avoid the prostitutes. Okay. You didn't like the prostitutes so much. The the quality just wasn't there. Yeah, but the burgers at the Billy goat, I mean, that's a real place. People don't even know what that is.

What what's the one dude's restaurant that's over by an area? That one guy's restaurant that's over by hair? Yeah. The one guy. Yeah. What kind of. There are plenty of. He's like a baseball guy or something. Oh, Harry Carrey's Harry Kerry's. Yeah. Walk by. Harry Kerry's late at night. They still be open. Well, of course, because Harry was a party animal.

Yeah. The last Harry Kerry's I was at was in Arizona back in 1990, maybe 91 when I went down with the buddy to go see the DePaul Blue Demons play in the NCAA tournament. It's like one of the last times ever made the NCAA tournament. So it was nice that we went That was the last time. But it was fun being in Harry Kerry's. It was a great trip. They lost. Yeah. Immediately go. We were in Phoenix so it was fun. Oh Olivia there. You can go there. That's a nice upscale restaurant that.

Now that would be perfect for a meet up. If Jean's paying. Come on down. Get some really expensive food. Some good place called Alinea a hell. I don't know if these two L's are what I nea. That is one of the more, Michelin starred types. I mean, if we were going to do it in Chicago, I'd want to do it, like, Navy Pier or something. Oh, yeah, it was. Do Navy boats. Let's have the meet up on the, the Ferris wheel. Well, no, no, they've got space you can rent on the Navy Pier. Convention space.

Yeah. They do. I went to I crashed the, press conference there when they announced the Joliet Superspeedway that they don't use anymore. We didn't know my buddy Jeff and I, we saw that. Hey, they're doing a news conference, and they were talking big time about Navy Pier, blah, blah, blah. And they said, where and when? So we showed up. Yeah. And we're like two of the only people that weren't the press that showed up. Oh, they have a Billy goats on Navy Pier.

I didn't know that. I'm sure they do now. Yeah they do. They got a Billy goat and they got hairy carries a Navy pier because it's the big. You said what you really love is the touristy type things. You're like, bring me to the tourist traps and I will spend my money. Well, no, it's just, you know, there's usually more police action there. Yeah. Sabemos it does seem like Gene is offering to fund everything. That's what I'm taking. I'm not.

I'm gonna say this maybe can't be taken as an oral contract. We have plenty of listeners. So that would be we have plenty of people who are witnessing said consent. Yeah, yeah. How many listeners you got right there? Three, four. There's your audience for this event. Congratulations. Know that most of them are going to show up that oh, that. Oh, okay. Listeners poll how many of you listeners right now are going to show up and you're willing to buy a ticket using PayPal right now?

We're going to start selling them by the end of the show. We come to Chicago, 63 people on the stream right now. I mean, people are doing they're dropping off now that you're asking for money. You have to be very careful about that. Like I said this was just the first round which was okay. If it's going to be a no agenda, it's going to be more a no agenda. Stream time. Because just no agenda is not, not that you couldn't bring enough people in. But then it would just be a big meet up.

So I think you would have to bring in the other podcasters that are in the no agenda sphere. Net net said he would show up. It's only 4.5 hours to Chicago. I hope it's dark and you're wearing sunglasses when you start coming into 4.5 hours. Really well for him, driving from D, getting Troy. Oh. I see in Detroit. Yes. It's where net net is. He also says he met you when dude named Ben named Ben did. And you offered to fund his startup. I don't know if that's true.

You might want to start taking more of that B-12, Jean or taking better notes. Cotton gin says it's about 20 hours to Chicago, but he would consider it because of the event. See, I'm telling you, I think this could be more people than I'm guessing.

Or you're guessing, and there's no way to really know until you kind of put together a plan, see which people that would be the podcasters that would want to show up, including, of course, the pod father or, and JCD, and then really get a, a feel from the, the producers on if they would be interested. I think it could be a, real as we wanted to do here with unrelenting. And of course, Dale. Yeah. And, and know who you got there, the, the creative way are the only oligarchs.

We're always like, we want to do an oligarch meal. We can put together a nice dame's a nice event. I mean, I I'm up for a meal, but have to. You always are. Yeah. Have you ordered your food for today? Just as a side track. Just to make sure you don't go hungry. I need to, I need to order groceries. I don't, so I only have one tea left. Oh my goodness. But that's what got a gallon five gallon jug. Yeah, but no they come in like the watered things. Jean just doesn't have a what.

He has the water in a five gallon and then a tea in a five gallon jug. If somebody did that I may be tempted to buy one of those machines, but no one does that. I wonder why? Probably because the tea with your bed. I mean, what it with fast as you drink it?

I mean, there is a shelf. Five gallons. Hell, yeah. I'm like, you want a drink for or it. So it have to be a refrigerated five gallon and then have to be hard. You'd have to ship refrigerated five gallons. That's the hard part. Yeah. True. Sure. The machine can do that once it's there. But like you, unlike you where you go to your grocery store, they just have the tea sitting out without the refrigeration. You see, I just buy the tea bags and I put them in a thing and then the tea.

Yeah, you could do it that way. I mean, you'd probably do that, you know, anywhere. But even that, like, if you just, if you just have tea bags with mold over, you can everybody can do the experiment very easily. Leave a used tea bag out sitting on your car for three days and see what it looks like. Oh, I'm sure it will grow all sorts of funky things, all kinds of critters, because it's got a lot of nutrients and minerals in there.

Now, when it's in the water, in a refrigerator that is at 34 to 35 degrees, that is not really a problem. Unless you would leave it there for exactly. But still. Yeah, like you, you can have a, open tea in the fridge for a few days, but you probably still don't want to leave it in the even in the fridge for more than a week, week and a half, because something will start growing in there. Well, this is where when you see things like, almond milk, which I usually buy an almond milk

because I never know. Every now and then I'm going to want cereal in the almond milk when it's unopened. Can sit there for like a month and a half. The dates on them are usually weeks out. But they say oh once it's open used within seven days I'm like that seems a little quick doesn't it. No. That's about all right together for to at 30 some odd degree. I mean it's got to be different depending on how you're storing it is the thing. Anything that has sugar in it.

Up to a certain percentage sugar where it goes the other way. But anything that has sugar in it has food for bacteria. And the only, the only thing bacteria really need to reproduce is a food source. So now if you have too much sugar, like honey, for example, you can leave that sitting out indefinitely because no bacteria are on there. That's too much sugar, but the damn stuff always hardens up and it pisses me off. And I know you can like rewarm it up, but you can warm it up.

You can if it if, if you're talking about, like, a mostly empty honey bottle. Yeah, well, you can't get the rest of it. I've got some that was almost a full bottle. That sap long enough where it start crystallizing. It shouldn't do that. That's not good, honey. That's not good, honey. Yeah, exactly. But, you can always warm it up, like you said.

But if it's, like a half empty one that's starting to crystallize, which will happen sometimes, then it's a good thing to use to make a new, drink with you. Food, drink, whatever you want to call it. Basically, just take some lemons that you got left over from drinking a blended lemon every day, right? You should. And that and so long, man. Oh, really? Do you miss it? Kind of. I mean, I get used to it when you do it daily. Yeah.

Yeah, but, you take a lemon and then, cut it up, put it in there with the honey, with all the lemon juice. You don't need to add any water, just lemon juice and honey. It'll just corrode right through, and then it'll corrode through the honey, and they'll mix together and, you'll have very tasty but slightly lemony flavored kind of a sweet concoction that you can either use hot or dilute with carbonated, beverage, like, soda and then, drink cold in the summer as well.

But, that's, that's a very typical thing to do with kind of leftover honey jars is to put lemon in there. Here's the strategy. Serge Jean's semi-sweet semi tart concoction. Can you see the packaging now you'll have yeah, it'll have the character of you with the beer going all the way down. Holding, holding the can in my right hand. Exactly. You can get your eye working in this. Let's get this big smile on your face while you pointed out the, you sent me something on the flux.

Yeah, I've been playing around with that over on. There's a site tensor tonight, so our art and there's others where you just put in what you wanted to make.

And the detail is getting so crazy good that it's even damn good with text. So if you want to make somebody with a saying on their shirt, it will do that 99% of the time, correct? Maybe 90 straight. And the details that you're getting, although it does seem that the faces they're produces are way more limited. I know they have taken out allegedly all of the celebrity and political. Right.

So if you now go in and say you want something that looks like Scarlett Johansson, then it's like, you get nothing like Scarlett Johansson does it. If it's you can't make Scarlett woozy, but it can because of the lauras which people then go train, which this is the beauty of this. There is the main checkpoint, they call it. So this is the main AI that you're using, and they have taken all of that out. But all of these eyes, you can have a lower level thing.

So it'll create the image, you know, simplifying this quite a bit, but that'll create the image with the face you don't want. And the thing you add below it could be will look for the face and then put in Scarlett Johansson. And people train that and you go look on the sites where this is available and it's everybody from Taylor Swift to Scarlett Johansson to the, Lisa Whelchel. What the what?

Whelchel was it that the girl that played on the The Facts of Life that played Blair Warner real facts of life? People are anybody that you want to make. As long as you have photographs of the person, you can then create one of these things to do. The the face and the quality that these things are kicking out. Sure, one out of every 5 or 1 out of every ten, you're probably going to have the extra fingers or an extra limbs. So it's going to take a little time, but when it gets it right.

It looks so much more realistic than the last. And iteration of the stable diffusion. And I think it's because the plasticky look is gone. It looks way more the way photographs look. Skin texture is much better where everybody doesn't look like they've been completely made up. And, know all of the blemishes taken away. Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. It looks pretty cool, man. It's bizarre. So why don't you just run this thing at home if I need to? Well, okay.

I need to get a lot of people to buy into a con where they send me a lot of money. So I nice video, but I promise these things are much better at doing Asian chicks. Well, this is because way more Asian guys are programing them to get what they want and they're like busty Asian chicks. It's amazing too. I mean, I have I've not been over to Asia, so I don't know. I haven't been to China or Japan lately, but are you going to come out for the kind of that I'm selling in Asia? In Russia?

I mean, if it's in China, I mean, where do you go to Beijing? The first Beijing con, the bacon, the big, big, big, big show in Beijing, presented by the Chinese Communist Party. Oh, they love the no gender show out there. They. That's like an official source of information. They're the ones sending in the, the donations. They're triggering with those, letters that are being read. It'll be the chicken that's right there. The I. Yeah. That's like you said excited. But yeah, it's

oh the second yeah. The second. Yeah. Yeah. You never know. That could be good. Lots of lots of babes at the. She can. Yeah, yeah. Just, No, Winnie the Pooh, that's all. Well, now it's like you don't even have to worry about trademark or copyright on that. You can just go do whatever you want with Winnie the Pooh. Finally fell out of the, protection. You can do 100 free images daily on this thing. Yeah, well, the that serve that art, the tenser one.

It's not really 100 for the flux because that takes a little bit more power, but I think it still ends up being like 60 free. Unless you pay them, which I have not. Because why would you, you could just get multiple accounts. Why would you need just saying them. I mean I have thought about it, I'm still going back and forth because the more I deal with windows on, the more shit they're adding with the advertising, the more I want to get off of windows. But, you should you should get a mac.

They're still not really optimized yet, though, for the things like the AI artwork. So although they have to be getting there, they keep throwing all these AI chips in the Macs and it's I think somebody sent in some stats, but I believe it's below the minimum set requirement amount, which is why it didn't go to two. Exactly. I believe in still comic strip blogger. I mean, we can say hi. Well, we can wait till he sends more for the 3330.

He just wants you to go to CSB dot lol and that's a website. So you can add the WW, but you don't have to comic strip blogger. You don't care to do that. Yeah, that means fuck I learned. That's right. Only CSB, only CSB. But that's it. With the the online stuff works really well. Yeah I'm doing the I and it comes down to there are places which I would unaware until recently. And you start talking about it last week with base. Oh you just have to put it in the word sexy model and it'll create

all kinds of front of images. Really? That's what you're getting. Now let me try this while doing the show. Yeah. Hey, let me just let you figure. If you can rent a GPU to play video games, you can, of course, rent a GPU any time you want to play with stable diffusion. But there's so much out there now it gets confusing on how to set it up. It's not used to just go someplace. It'd be like, we figured it out. Here's what you need. But the quality that you can get there.

So I mean, you can just like, give me short, bearded man with beard down to his belly, eating a sushi while drinking iced tea while podcasting. And then that's like, there it is. There's a new album. Art. Get your damn camera out of my house. Oh, you're. Oh, sorry. I was using the new, I was doing some fanart. Freaking. Were just getting. Your, monitors are being monitored. Yeah, right. And, like, I was not weirded out because I had. Oh, wow. He does great. Dall-E does it? Yeah.

I had first heard UN, I think it was on no agenda, although it could have been grumpy old bands. Those shows are so much alike. I they really are. That broke the story that if you had set Wi-Fi items in your house. So if you again you have a, you know, an Amazon device sitting somewhere and these things don't move within your house there. You know, my Greg that wants to have a Wi-Fi signal? Great. Extended.

He is now offering the service that you can pay extra for, where they will let you know when they detect movement in your house using.

Oh, yeah. Wi-Fi so far. Yeah, yeah, it's. I've. I've seen that video a long time ago. There's a guy that did a his PhD on this topic, and, they're basically using the Wi-Fi connection as the transmitter. And then you can actually see through walls from the outside. So they were talking about police and military applications of this technology. So you can see into people's houses prior to entering them illegally. And it works really well.

It did surprisingly well given that you're using just commercial Wi-Fi. But because the Wi-Fi is trying to send out, you know, they're using multiple antennas to try and get a good signal for your Wi-Fi throughout the house. This also creates a very good source of, of energy in that range that's transmitted and then is able to detect, anything that blocks it. So, yeah, you can absolutely do that. And I think it was Ben Rose that talked about it, but, yeah, he's from the show.

So you about a year or two ago. Yeah. Before it was, I think it may have been just starting to be turned into a service by, a router company at the time, which was like, well, by especially if you had a mesh router. Yeah. Because the way a mesh router works, you put them around the house and they all communicate. But the fact that Xfinity has gotten to the point to where what we we don't even need special hardware. We will use all of the Wi-Fi devices you have in your home.

And what they do is they will monitor when they're your Wi-Fi hotspot. They can monitor that Amazon device in the next room, and every time that signal fades and then comes back, well, they're assuming somebody walked into the beam, if you were right. Yep. And they're like, well, we can tell you if somebody is moving around your house, which could be, yeah, an interesting service if you're not home, although you're. Yeah. I mean that's a it's, it's a service.

But if you actually see the images that they're able to generate, they're even. That's way more impressive really. So they're just able to give you a, a guesstimate on like how large the object moving is. Oh no no no no, it's, it's a full, full on X-ray image of your house. I don't understand how that could even be possible. Like, you could see all the furniture, you could see people walking around, you could see everything in there. That's bizarre. Guns. But this is why.

This is why you make your guns into the shape of something fun. You know, you add some extra metal to it. So it's a phone. No, that's not a gun. That's a that's an umbrella. It's a cannon. That's not a gun, that's a cannon. That looks like a nuclear warhead, sir. Did you speaking of not guns, did you happen to catch the, decision by the Massachusetts Supreme Court relating to firearms? I think sorry. So I headline. They were good for the gun owners.

I know they were not that. Well, maybe they, They ruled that switchblade knives fall under the definition of arms and therefore are protected by the Second Amendment and therefore cannot be banned in the state of Massachusetts.

And it's ironic because the state does have gun bans, and it's not a particularly gun friendly state, but it appears that given this ruling from Massachusetts Superior Supreme Court, that there will be other lawsuits that'll get reversed out and maybe Massachusetts will end up having, much better gun laws as a result of this.

But it's interesting that the first ruling that this, this court kind of applied it to it was in saying that, that knives are guaranteed protection under the Second Amendment. Well, everybody and always for some reason just assumed that arms meant firearms. But yeah. Yeah, probably because they have the word arm right there. Like that's it. That's why I'm. But you're right. Like before the firearms existed, the term arms referred to sabers and, all kinds of pokey and pointy and sharp things.

So you have to add those all back in. Yeah. Pretty much. You could use something to pummel somebody. It should be guaranteed that you could have it. Yeah. If a baseball bat, if it happens to be in an apartment in, you know, New York or Chicago is probably an arm. Yeah. I mean, you need those in the outside of Denver now that the Venezuelan gangs have taken over the apartment buildings. Oh, yes. Yes, I'm. I'm very curious to see what the new flag of Colorado looks like.

Nothing to see here, because we saw in Minnesota with the new flag of Minnesota, it looks like the Somali flag. Let's see what the new flag of, Colorado looks like. If people keep voting for it, it's going to keep happening. Yeah, and I'm all for that. I'm all for people getting a taste of their own medicine. Yeah. This is what you need to learn. But will they understand cause and effect? No, that's the problem.

Now they're just gonna try and move to Texas, and then they'll be like, wait, where are all the bad things happening? Although Texas I covered this story on Random Thoughts. And do you protest. The million people taken off the voter rolls since the last election. Yeah. That's a lot of people. Well Democrats the hands up which the left is throwing that you can't know. Illegals can't even register. I'm like what world are you living in. Yeah.

They're also suing the state of Texas for taking these names off, which is like oh yeah. Like, the intriguing thing to me was don't be taking names off that we use every year. Right. How are we going to vote? Yeah, seven. We've almost flipped it. Goddamn it. It was it was a fairly low number for illegal migrants that were registered. It was like 7 or 8000. And then of those. Yeah, the only ones they could prove voted were about 2000.

But the interesting thing to me was the way this whole story was covered, there were 468,000 people who did not respond to the request to verify their identity. I'm like, well, who do you think those are? The putting the even putting that number in that there's like 8000 migrants illegally here that were on those list. I was like, well, what percentage of the 8000 use their real name?

Right. Because they were told, I mean, you see the man on the street thing where it's like, well, no, I was told I could vote somebody at the migrant shelter told me, go do this. And I did, because I didn't know. You expect people that are here legally don't know the laws. You certainly can't expect the people that come here illegally to know the laws. And also they came here illegally so they are willing to flout the law.

And then but as, as the future president of America says, just because people came here illegally doesn't mean they're criminals right now. Technically it does is they broke the law to get here. So technically they are criminals. So but words don't mean anything, which is a good thing for come out. Like as if words meant things. Then she would have a lot to answer for. She'd be laughing. She still is. They. They cut that interview down to what, 18 minutes? I haven't seen any of it.

Just that it was an edited interview. It was like 18 minutes long with her and Timmy Walls. It's like you and I have just done 46 minutes. This check did 18 minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're more qualified to be president, that's for sure. That's absolutely true. Yeah. Imagine the country. Oh, I can imagine. All right I but one people would say you're not even an American citizen because I mean look at you. Let me like the last name. I can stop the Ukrainian war in one minute.

Trump says it'll take a day. I can do it in one minute. This would be a debate I would like to see. I pick up the phone. It's that you'd be like, well, who you calling Vladimir of water. Yeah. We're going to Nukem with Vladimir Putin. No, no, they're not calling you Vlad. I'm calling to tell our boys to nuke Ukraine and we're done. And then they're like, sorry, Vlad, we took away the apple of your eye. It's not Russian, so there's nothing here for you to take anymore.

See, that proves I'm not pro-Russian. Because I with Ukraine. Right? In spite of Russia. Right? Because that's not what Russia would want. Well, no, because they would prefer to have the territory. But if we can't have it, no one should have a damn. It, I like that, I like that idea. Let's put Ukraine, that's the platform I think I'm. Which which party is, putting you on the ballot with this? Well, I, you know, I'm. I am a member of the eugenics party, so maybe maybe they can.

Yeah, that would be a good platform. Right? You already have exposed more of your platform than Kamala Harris has hers. It's true that as well, jeans like I want to nuke Ukraine. Yeah. Stop the war. I can guarantee to stop the war in less than a minute. I can stop all wars immediately upon taking office. Yeah, give me that. I'd be the most anti-war president ever. We'll just nuke everybody, That's it, that's it. Now, some people may find, a slight problems with that particular strategy.

How do you mean? The death and destruction and nuclear fallout. But beyond that, it's a great idea. I think it's a great idea.

It solves a lot of problems all at once. The other interesting thing to me is some of the coverage that I have seen. And again, the people that are pulling the oh my God, you can't give Donald Trump the nukes are going along the lines of what you saw. What happened, did Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Yeah. That's right. Now now the the weapons we have are like a hundred times worse. Yeah. But are they really their nuclear weapons? How much are they? They actually are about a hundred times worse.

Wow. That's exponentially crazy. That. Well, I mean, they're they're significantly larger. That's the that's mainly the thing. It's just a size thing. More than a. Yeah. Have they figured out how the area of coverage. Yeah. Yeah yeah. It's really like, I've been to Hiroshima. I was there and, that when you dropped the bombs. No, but that nuke did not really take up, it the destruction that it caused was not substantial.

The fires that it set were actually caused more destruction of property than the nuke itself going off. But then the bigger issue, of course, was radiation, which affected people in the much larger. Yeah, but the nuke itself really did fairly minor damage. And the new ones do way more damage. Oh yeah. Yeah. You know, they they will they will melt, entire city centers completely. And when you nuke Ukraine off the map, how safe is Poland being a neighbor to. Oh, totally safe. Totally.

Because there's a there's a border. There's a bridge that goes right between them. And, you know, we're just talking about Ukraine right now, right? You just you have the nuclear program will totally just stop right there at the border. Yeah, that's what they tell me. That they tell me is like the lowest crime in some of the best economics post-Covid of. Oh, yeah, totally. I should go and see if I can get some Polish citizenship.

Man, you probably can, because I think they're they're accepting people for their military. I mean, they're, looking forward to having more people with Polish heritage join them. You don't want me in the military? No. My I eyesight, I might blow up anything, including my. You might be a Polish joke at that point. Could be. Could be. But of like, hey, if you get free citizenship, man. Yeah, might be worth it. Polish chicks are hot.

I, I've never been to Poland myself, but, I've done a lot of Polish people over the years. Yeah, the chicks are hot. Although I would definitely say the Swedish chicks are hotter. Yeah. I don't think I be Swedish heritage though I would jump, I need to do a 20 foreign me. So that would be, you've never done the 20 for me. Know? Or even the 32 and me. No. That's insane. Why would I want to know? For curiosity's sake, I wouldn't want to be in the database. You're already in the database.

So knowing the information that's. You may be able to get the data without even taking a test. Oh, yeah. Like you take one and then it's like, oh, well, you're in here. We'll go ahead and just send you your data. Let me submit this as a, a secondary test for June of two. And then just have the results come to you and then you can read it live on the air. Sure. Yeah. That's fine. Be great. Botswana when it's 6% interesting.

If I can own some Indian land that would be good too, if you can make that happen. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You would you like some Native American in there? We can. We can take care of that. It's quite possible in this area. I mean, there was a lot. The Chippewa tribe. Were your people from this area? I think so you never know. There's a lot of people breeding, so. Yeah, well, you never know what happened.

There were a lot of people breeding, but like in the outskirts of Chicago and you never know. Well, I guess you don't. You never know. I don't. That's true. That is true. But, I mean, most people came from the east, heading west. But I guess your people have always been there. We need an exit strategy. The poles that arrive in the 1600s went straight to Chicagoland to open up their Polish. Yeah, you got to make the Polish sausage. Yeah. The the, the Maxwell Street, maybe.

Exactly. It's a large Polish community here in, Chirac where you used to be, but I think most of them got killed now by the gang violence. There is a lot of that. Which is why you don't want to be in the city proper. Hell, you don't really even I was always surprised at how few Russian stores there were in that area. It's mostly Polish. Yeah, I can see that. I mean there was always a Russian community. Yeah. They make the yogurt, the Polish community a little bit bigger but way bigger.

We got a lot of, the mayors, the bears. Oh yeah. And of course a huge Hispanic community, which is why we've always had some of the best Mexican food of traditional. That's for Midwest. For Midwest. Yes. No, but there are some good traditional Mexican places around here. I mean, there's of course a lot of the Americanized taco burrito and all that. But that, there's not I mean it's good for in the same way that like White Castles are good for burgers, but they're not a refined art.

Now you can get some traditional Mexican food that is just out of this world. Delightful. CSB wants us to talk about telegram jailing the C. Oh yeah we could talk about that. And then there's what is juice I mean this you talking about what kind of juice. Telegram CEO jailing and juice. Is that what the juice. Is that it. No I don't know these things but you might have to send us another histogram to to explain the telegram thing. We discussed a long time ago.

And I think it might have been another topic that was covered on Grumpy Old Memes featuring Ryan members and Darren O'Neill. That telegram, the only thing that was end to end encrypted are the one on one messages. The minute you do a public room A with a bunch of people, none of it's encrypted, right? So if you thought all of that was safe, kids. No, you're probably wrong, right? Which is also why this whole French bullshit that.

Oh, well, there's conspiracies being plotted, of course, using your app. Well, yeah, but if it's if there's more than two people in that plotting room, it's not encrypted, right? So go at it now. It could be. I know you could do this on your own server, so it's still not going to be private because somebody would have to then join the server. But you could then see if you were in that room, which is not, encrypted, you'd be able to see everything that was going on. Right? Right.

Yeah. Signals really a much better way, to go in that regard. Yeah. But as Adam Curry spoke yesterday, I know agenda. We know there is government money going into signal. Does that make it completely unsafe? No, but it raises other questions, which is why I find that there's government money going into no agenda that's make that an unsafe. That's only your donations, Gene. That that that's at least six, six people's donation.

At least six. Yeah. Possible. So like I said, not saying that makes signal unsafe, but I find it interesting that I can. I haven't, used the, invite you sent me. I forgot about that. The proton thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Proton. Now they're going real open source and like they've been open source for a long time, but they're dropping what's at the ownership now that they're. Yeah they're what they're doing is they've started a foundation the nonprofit foundation that will actually be doing that.

So they're taking the commercial for profit company out of it. And the nonprofit foundation will, be the owner of all the assets, which is interesting. Now, does that really make you feel like it's safer? It doesn't really blow my skirt up because at some point there's still people involved in there could be corrupt people in this could be another way of being like, well, no, we're the nonprofit open source. So of course we don't have a back door.

And I know these things are open so people can look and people can audit the telegram thing. Oh, it's a Swiss company, which is also puts them under interesting jurisdiction. But the concept of these things, like they're, they're addresses right next to the World Economic Forum. Yeah. Nothing to see here. They could just walk right on over the the neighbors. But I'm, I don't think there's any connection there. No, not at all. Just that's just a random coincidence. Jake.

Winky dink as they say. Exactly. But this is why you need to know what you're using. We covered a story a year or two ago on Grumpy Old Bands. We keep mentioning that today. I'm sorry. It's just another plugin. Just it used to be a show that I was on. Yeah. You were on it briefly, briefly for about a year. Yeah. Or you went to just two good old boys.com and went off there. But there was a underground company that was selling devices and promised that it was like the most secure.

And people were paying an extraordinary amount of money to be able to communicate on this backbone. And it turned out it was all a honeypot, which I thought was fantastic. Which which one are you talking about? Oh, I forget the name of it, but it was. They were selling the devices and they were selling the service for a lot of money. And that it turned out that it was, not a legit thing. So people were getting arrested left and right. Yeah that's true.

Which is why you need to understand how the communication works. And a lot of criminals are not all that bright. They're just going to take somebody's word like, no, no, this is safe. Oh yeah. Use telegram. Nobody will be able to know what you're saying. Use WhatsApp, use whatever. Well, the thing that I think is funny is, like, it was pretty obvious that the telegram is no different than the Fetty verse.

It's it's a bunch of edge case, cranky people bitching about stuff to each other and, being interrupted occasionally by a, shit poster and those. Yeah, neither one of them is particularly interesting to me. But like the local Austin no agenda meetup folks. They're all over telegram. Like all of them are on it, and they're posting every frickin day. So it's, real and well, that that would be an a non encrypted forum. Correct. Not encrypted form. Right. But which you know, they're fairly mega.

Yes, I guess. And very much knowing gender ish. Although as is often happens, people that start off being very no agenda start drifting away and finding something to disagree with Adam about, which is pretty typical. May I, whether it's Ukraine or whether it's whatever, you know, Israel, it's a lot of it is Jesus. Jesus, good Catholic boy. I just will never people hate Jesus on that. They do. Yeah. And they're like, oh no, you've been compromised.

You been God. Like wow somebody's having a moral compass and embracing that. Wow wow what a horrible thing. Yeah I just know I think you're looking at it backwards. I think if somebody finds God and you have to ask the question is like was this person lacking a moral compass? These last 50 years I've found out about it like, well, if I can't trust what they were saying yesterday, why would I trust something they're saying today?

Yeah. People come up with all it's a reasonable, logical conclusion to come to that. Anyone who gains religion later in life do you have to reevaluate everything they've done previously in life? I think that's something that, which is backed up everything you put out there. The other thing would be the, with Adam was, I don't know, he stopped smoking pot. Now we can't trust him. Yeah, yeah. Well, that one, I mean, there's nothing you can say there.

Obviously, you can't trust somebody doesn't smoke pot. Well, it's like saying, you know, somebody was an alcoholic for years, and he stopped. I can't trust him now. That's seems to be the case. Yeah. It's very strange. It is. It is interesting. Omega points out that three months also there in, in, Switzerland. Which that was one of the. Yeah. No one's heard of that. No one is, is that the kid. Did the kids who tried to take the shot of Trump that then they then cremated his body really quickly.

And Rima was one of the apps on his phone. Yes. Because his religion required the creation of his body really quickly. This is nothing to worry about here. No, we we, we got some peroxide and bleach, and we watched down that rough. That was too dangerous. There's zero DNA there to look at. There's nothing there. And we we we have all the data we'll ever need already. Right. We took pictures. That was fine. Just trust the pictures we have.

Don't worry that there's AI that can add or remove anything from photographs. Now that you will never know. Yeah. And then there being somebody up on the roof and, But this is why, I mean, I made a big deal about this, and it's kind of died down, but they were making a huge deal in the media about the fact that the Trump assassin and wannabe had three different encrypted messaging apps on his phone.

Oh, yes. This is where they're like one. No, no, for the children. Obviously we can't allow this. So he must have had telegram. Probably they listed the it was very weird because the news article, that I found that had the most information. Yeah. Listed the origin places of these, which was how I knew one of them was. Yes, but they wouldn't mention the app names like this is. Well, yeah, you're absolutely right. They said. Oh, and he had three foreign encrypted apps on his phone.

His second phone, not his first phone, but on the second phone he had three encrypted. So that would be the FBI phone. Okay, okay. Got it. Yeah, it was a CIA phone if for keeping it outside of the country as well. No, no, no, that was this is not okay. This is definitely not them. CIA would have got the job done. Yeah, exactly. Probably CIA would have had four guys on four different roofs, all aiming at the same place.

And this concept that it's worrisome that people are able to communicate without having the government spy. How dare they, they can't be communicating. And the fact that they still don't seem to understand one American, a world wide communication system. Now, this is also makes things a little bit more difficult. We have encryption that we assume if people know what they're doing, that they're able to communicate securely. Yeah. Now a lot of people don't.

And a lot of people will jump on these various things. Is the, is the Mark Cuban one still around that was called the cyber does. That was one of the first ones of these that I remember popping up. Maybe there were other ones first, but he was one of the first ones that came up with a messaging app that was supposed to be completely secure. And then it kind of seemed to disappear. Yeah. He didn't come up with jack shit. Well, he had a company that was doing it.

I'm sure he didn't personally, create this, but he put some money behind it. Everybody hates him, so nobody uses this. Yeah, the first real encrypted app that came out there, which probably surprised some people that don't know its history. Is Skype. Oh, yeah.

You. I've been using Skype for what, 20 years now. Yeah. And it was never though supposedly secure or encrypted. It was both with the evil back I don't remember that. Yeah. Yeah. That was, that was removed by Microsoft. When they acquired them as all things that go to Microsoft go to die. So did Skype. But if you go back to Skype early days, you will see their press releases about this great new communication app and how it's, point to point secured. The was 2016 mark. Here's a real article.

And the Next Web Mark Cuban showed me how to use his weird chat app. Weird. And now I love it. Yeah, well, it didn't last, although I think it's still just called dusk now, and it's around. This was all about ownership. Cyber dust is built with security in mind. Messages never touch a cyber dust server nor are they stored on a device. They're encrypted and they're let deleted just a few seconds after being read.

And now Mark Cuban's all in on all this liberal bullshit, so I'm surprised, that he even had a company that was. Although this could have been the honeypot, I wouldn't doubt that this could have been the honeypot of. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. You're safe. No, that's a to worry about here. And you can do this on your own too. Remember I did a whole episode on random thoughts about talks which while not the easiest thing to implement, it was all free of third party servers and everything else you know.

So there are ways to set up communication. I mean, if you're doing terrorist type activity or if you're running a drug empire, I mean, you might want to hire an IT guy. But I just had to establish the the pipeline. Yeah. Your communication. Well, you know what Skype stands for. No, I do not Skype. Peer to peer, sky peer to peer. Why Skype that that because it's. Does it work in the sky. Yeah. Because it's direct. Bypassing everything. It's going through the sky. Goes through the sky.

I don't think it really does, but. Okay. I mean, Skype was actually a decent product until Microsoft took it over. Yes. Well, actually, eBay didn't really do it much justice either, but, originally it was. Was the eBay the one that originally owned. Yeah, eBay sold it to Microsoft. EBay originally bought them. Who owned it before eBay.

That was just a company that created it. The developers. Right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it it was, first came out in the Polish market. So that's how you know it's good. Yeah. 71 people listening out of the stream right now. That's a pretty good day for app unrelenting on a Friday there was a Luxembourg based company CSB said cool again with a 1033. Yeah I thought we're not mentioning small things there. It doesn't go pupu.

But I mean, every now and then when I look over and there's a lull in, it might encourage more people to. And then it funded. Yeah. And then, of course, Microsoft moved it from peer to peer to server based using their servers. And Microsoft totally isn't listening to all of your conversations. Well, not mine. I don't have Microsoft devices here. The, well, that's why you don't have Skype. But this is the intriguing thing that no, I actually uninstall.

You know, Skype comes pre-installed on every PC. Well, and that's one this up, one of the apps I install as soon as I get a PC escape. A lot of people don't know about the mysterious building. What's it in? The The New Yorker DC that AT&T has had for years that back, you know, when the old fashioned phone system.

This is where all the calls were routed through and this is where they would and Virginia was at one of Virginia, and there's one in, San Francisco that there well known AT&T buildings and all of the things that you were doing on the phone were being monitored.

And I don't think a lot of people understand that. And I we saw this completely with the Matthew Perry story. I don't know if we talked about that last week or not. I don't remember when that was. The you get hear the recorder going on. It's doing a very poor job monitoring for back in the day. I mean, you could right. Because when another line clicked. Yeah. You do have a voltage drop. Yeah. Well I mean this wasn't the high the high technology that we have today.

But with the Matthew Perry story, a lot of the evidence was because they were communicating openly without trying to hide what they were doing via text message, like text messages are safe. They obviously did not listen to any of my podcasts.

No, because text messages are not safe. They are stored on the phone companies servers. So if you think that you get a text that's like, hey, I'm going to kill your wife and you delete it like it's gone. No, it's not. Yep. It exists. This is why you don't want to use it. You didn't even get a delete function on text messages until years after text messages came out. Yeah, well, nobody thought you'd ever. Nobody thought anybody would ever send thousands of messages a day like they do now.

Oh, yeah, that was horrible. There are some people that are quite addicted, but use a third party service that at least pretends to protect your privacy. And I don't know what that answer is. I've looked at them all.

You're the one that got me on signal. But Adam Curtis, like the signal thing. Genes. No good. It's Russian disinformation. Oh, please. Government money going in. I still the best that I have. It's an Israeli company. Of course, there's government money going in. It is the best that I've found so far. Although I've never tried three month or any of those. But there are so many that are so similar to each other, you know, some of them have to be honeypot.

You don't know which one and you never know which one. So if you pick wrong, maybe there's 20 different companies that do it well. If you pick the wrong one. Then you're screwed. Which is why you almost want to encrypt your messages before sending them over the encrypted connection.

So I did a back years and years and years ago this was back would have been late 90s. I did a, an encryption app that actually used, compressed images to send encrypted data through a website. Oh, right. Because you can embed, cryptography. What's, what's what's a what's it called? Cryptography. What's the name for it?

It's up. It's something is. Yeah. Steganography. Yeah. And, it was so you essentially communicate with the, the website, which would take your message and then encoded in a Jpeg and then, without really making it look any different, and then the Jpeg would be downloaded by the other message

and then using the, the it would decode it. Yeah. It was using the, I was going to say you have to have a shared phrase. That's the that's the way they did it back in the day, and they would then suck it out of that image. Then if you wanted to reply back, then you would send the a different kind of free to the website, with your encoded message. And then they would stick it in there. So it was a way to have sort of, I guess a, a drop location for encrypted messages. Right out in the open that.

Yeah, like other publicly accessible websites. So but I just did it as a proof of concept. I had a security company that I owned back then, so it was a it was just a fun little thing built to demonstrate that type of capability. Right. Well, that you never know that hot Instagram girl one every ten messages might be sending a message somewhere. You don't know exactly. This is why things are hidden even without realizing it.

When I did one of the when the stable diffusion first kind of popped up, I created an image that was based upon like three different models, put them together, female models that models of stable diffusion, and posted, you know, hey, can you tell me, who do you see? You know who, which people would you say created? And who is the combination of who did they come from? And somebody answered exactly. Really?

And then showed me that in the PMG, there are special readers that will show you the prompt that the prompt is saved.

Now that's bullshit. In the PNG. So unless you go through and wipe that out, so if you create something with the AI and you don't know that the system is betting that, yeah, yeah, the exact prompt you use is there and that does not show up. I've got a lot of different graphics programs and they don't show up. You need the special reader for the PS to let you know what that says. But for the people.

So this no, this kind of sounds like the X of data in JPEGs where you can have all kinds of data in there and the location, the time, a comment, whatever you want stuck in there. And then unless you're in an app that reads all that data and lets you edit it, most people will never know it's there. And that's, you know, a lot of people have gone to jail because there was a photo that had X of data in it. Oh yeah. Well, and it's danger.

I harped on this a lot and I think it's gotten a little bit better. But there were and I think Instagram was pretty early on with stripping out that data. So kudos to them. But there were other sites where it did not it was not hard to go through a search and get the GPS location. So again you're just they may posting photographs. Do you think you're safe. You know you're taking a selfie in your bedroom. Well guess what.

If your GPS is on and you don't strip that shit out, anybody that gets that picture will now have your physical location. Yep, exactly. But it's also a great place, I guess if you want to add encrypted data that that would be easy enough to. You could just take, use pjp whatever you want, create some, message, encrypt it, and then just put it up, you know, put the encrypted text into the image.

Yeah. And that may get beyond, some scanners looking for things or people wouldn't really notice because you're not looking for it there. Right? Right. Yeah. There's a, there's a lot you can do with images. This is why it's kind of disconcerting that you can't even trust the images that you see. Now.

And this is so far down the rabbit hole at this point that the AI generators for humans, especially if they're targeting, if somebody is targeting you, it takes the time to make the Lora or the flux that would look like you. That's going to create photographs that 99.9% of the world will believe. And even the ones that don't believe it won't be able to prove it's not all of this concept that you're going to be able to prove it today.

I mean there's going to be ways like there's no way this concept, one of the latest ones wasn't I, I was kind of disappointed in your boy Elon because he was like, oh, yeah, California law. I, I'm with you. And one of the things that was talked about was the AI companies having to somehow tag the content is AI. It's like, well, you know, people are going to figure out a way around that anyway. So this is bullshit.

Yeah. But just inserting the, the prompt, you know, and anybody's tag because you think anybody if you create a, you know, commercial that sounds like Kamala Harris is a bumbling idiot. I mean, granted, you don't need AI for that. No, but if you do that, can you imagine if the audio plays back with, you know, what you wanted, but also playing this is I mean, this is a I mean, how are you going to tag audio?

That is, you know, it doesn't make any sense. You know, the photographs are the same things, the concept that you're going to be able to tell it's the funniest thing is all of the things that are popping up, including within the chat. GPT Oh put your text in put your I created text in it. We will make it undetectable as a high level. But way that still is a AI with the AI is pretending you can make it not an AI.

And the interesting thing when you generate enough text with AI and I tried this a bit, there are things that will repeat. There are weird phrases that it seems to want to use, but with that said, there are ways to and I haven't gone through and done it.

But for people that are, if you're a professional writer, there's a way, just like the laws for the images, which can make it create Scarlett Johannson face each and every time, you can do the same thing with the large language models, say, which you have. You've written books, you can train it by importing your book. There's another thing that the you can let the AI give you 20 sentences, and then you rewrite those sentences with the same meaning, but in your own words, and then it learns.

Yeah. And it now spits out prose as if you wrote it. Yeah, I think it'll take a little more than that, but but it's getting there is the point. The it is getting there that there are AI models that are built with specific stuff. I know that there is there are I'm sure multiple people are doing it, but I've heard of one that is trained exclusively on the Bible so you can talk to it. But, you know, it's it's knowledge base is, confined to the, old and New Testaments, which is intriguing.

There are a bunch of these things when they say you can talk to it, you can ask questions and it makes sense because I've written a little bit of fiction, you know, just dabble around.

And there are times you get to a point where you're like, oh shit. What, what did I say his last name was or what was, what did I say is, you know, job whatever it was. And now you can just type that question into the AI. Hey what what was. Yeah. You forgot what was this character's last name. And it'll just spit it right out. You don't have to like go do a search and try to find where it was for people writing like Lord of the rings style length. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

So there's a whole set of jobs that are now gone. Yeah. Because there used to be people that did that right. They had to look up the lore like, would this make sense? Oh my God. Is this going to be the continue today is we are we doing this right. And it's not the author usually that knows that shit now. Oh no, the author at this point I know a lot of these. I love the jet.

I would love to be so successful that I could be James Patterson, which sounds like what he does now is give an outline, like a 20 page treatment that says, somebody else write this. And then he has his name on the book and there's this there. And they're really little letters that he gets like 80% of Tom Clancy started doing that many years ago when he when he became more in like started doing speaking gigs more than he was writing.

He started collaborating with other authors that were fans of his who, would write the actual book, and then there would be Tom Clancy's blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This was original, blah blah, blah, right? Well, this was the original. I, which is you and I both have consumed, I would guess, every word that Richard Marchenko put down on paper and released. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. So this is the original I we've learned the style, you know, I mean, you can then write in that style.

Yeah. Because you know the style. Well. And Marchenko wrote one book all the rest of it over again. What? No, no, no, no, I mean, for real, because all his other books were actually written by the other dude with Weisman, and, yeah, the other there was another guy he went to after Weitzman who wasn't quite as good. And because I think Weisman helped him, didn't write, but helped him with editing his first book, and then he's like, hey, we should write a book together.

I'll tell my stories and you write it right, which you can that I'll, you know, and again, this is kind of like, oddly, what the eye is doing now where you could give it. Well, here I'm telling a story. Well, the I will then help you buy like, well, what about this? You know, with this you're leaving an empty spot here. What goes here? You know, that's, you know, to be able to take what you have and edit it down. Like the Kamala Harris interview was probably eight hours long.

They released 18 minutes. You got to know how editing works. The best 18 damn minutes of the eight hours you. Yeah. Gotta be very concise. Yeah, but that is how you know, things used to be. But now it's great because if the a, if you have the large language model and you have, like you said, with the Bible. You can ask very specific questions about the Bible like, well what does the Bible say about polygamy.

And if it was mentioned it's gonna spit that answer out and say, well here it says this, here it said this, it was mentioned here, blah, blah blah. And I think it's an interesting way for people to interact with things because you're able to have it answered questions based upon text. And I think it does this fairly well. I don't think there's really a problem with the I is hallucinating. Again, if you put in a novel or a series of novels and then you ask a question about the character.

It'll probably get that right. Whereas Adam Curry I know it just to the best damn podcast in the universe mentioned yesterday. And I tried it with ChatGPT. I haven't tried it with any of the other ones. A simple question to have some fun with. How many hours are in strawberry? They all answer to where you said Ellen, fix the grok though. So I think that is, that has been updated because that's mostly what he does. He sits there and programs grok.

He's a to make sure it's spell strawberry correctly.

But there are people man Eli knows he's like, you can't have that wrong. But it's interesting that the I get some very simple things wrong. You think it would just look up the word and you spell it correctly. So that's the intriguing part. It's not like you misspell it with one hour and say, how many hours in strawberry without, you know, Molly, one hour at the end. No, you spell it correctly and it still can't get that right.

You think that would be the easiest code in the world, which is take the word, look at the letters and count them. If it can't do that right, then yes, there have to be some questions about what it does wrong. And the other thing I still run into, except Claude and Tropics.

Claude 3.5 and again, maybe not all the time, but when I put in our, transcript and got the chapters ChatGPT not good with the time aspect at all, which is interesting to me, matching up when the time code was that the sections started way off, and most of the time it'll try to make the podcast way longer or shorter than it is. And it's very strange because you would think that would be a very and it is a mathematical issue, but I don't know how it matches up those timestamps with the text.

So it can create a chapter that said, oh, you know, Darren and Jean talked about comic strip bloggers boost, but it's like 20 minutes after the show ends instead of where it should be in the show, right? It's very weird because I would think that would be the easiest part. It can create chapters that make sense for the sections that are in the show. That makes sense, but putting the correct time on it is a problem for a lot of them.

Yeah, well, I've been I think I mentioned previously, I've kind of switched to just using Buzzsprout for everything until that's all wrong. And then you're like, now and there I have it, right enough and it does a very good job. It's podcasting right there. It's it's right. That's right enough. It does a very good job with, the description. It also suggests titles. Even though we don't really change titles, we stick with the same title, different number every time.

But it'll come up with a title that's relevant to the podcast, and it's catchy, which with a lot of people, like to keep changing titles of their episodes. But it does everything out of magically. The only thing that I complain about that they and we fix for it is it just says speaker one and. Speaker two. Right. What about asking me what is the name of?

Speaker one what is the name of? Speaker two so it's smart enough to to separate them out, even though I'm uploading a file with just one channel. Right. It's combining both of them together. So it's not it's not relying on me for the separation of the channels for speakers. It's figuring it out based on the way that people speak different,

you know, frequencies different, whatever. Whatever it is that is, check it out. I'm assuming mostly, just the frequency of the speech. But yeah, it is weird how that works. Yeah, but it seems to work pretty well. But it I don't understand why it didn't go the extra step. Then just say who is speaker one and who is which is what, descript, which is what I used to use.

But I get gradually more disappointed in because they've been focusing on nothing but video features for the last year and a half, and I wasn't doing video with it. I was just doing audio and audio, just kind of get pushed to the back. When they were launched as a audio company, more than anything else, there were for podcasts specifically. So the concept like, oh, wait, now we need to. Obviously they figure out the videos are a much bigger market. Yeah. Which I'm sure they are.

So I don't blame them. I'm just no longer using them as all. TSB says finally, I taught Claude van dam no Claude from anthropic to 3.5. There's so many of them out there now it is getting hard to, I think a lot of people just think, oh there's BT and that's it. It's like there is a metric shit ton of. Yeah different models out there.

I will recommend people, especially if you got the crypto go to open router dot I, I think it is and they let you pay as you use it and you can use any of these large language models directly from their interface. You don't need to go make so you do. So they do have basically a video card in the cloud service kind of. Yeah. Okay. And how much they charge it is, depending upon the particular Lem and what they charge. But it can be anywhere, depending on the query.

Yeah. I put in a maybe 100,000 word bit of text and was asking questions about it. Those because you were including so much text, it was about 17 to $0.20 per query. Okay. But that was for using the latest and greatest of the models. Now, if you use other models, some of them are still free no matter what you throw at them. So it all depends really what you want to put into there and how much you need to, use resources wise.

But the first time I put ten bucks in, I think it took me over six months to use the ten bucks. So it's not like it's, it's not like it's 20 bucks a month. Like ChatGPT is. Although I like the ChatGPT because it lets me create the Dall-E images. Those are nice. And there's some interesting things you can do there, but, that's all because CSP got me hooked, man. He got me on. He got me on the GPT man. Okay. He got me hooked. But I think I learned from history. I think you learned before him.

Probably. But I never paid for it, right? Right. Yeah. He probably got you open the wallet more. He did. He's like, here, I'll pay you to do this for six months. And then I never stopped after he stopped using it, I never stopped. He stopped paying. Well, yeah, I never stop. I never stopped paying for I'm like, no, no, you never. But did he stop paying for it? Yeah he did. He was trying to do a deal with Ryan Ambrose and then that fell through. Well, that he should have known better.

I know right? Ryan's got better things to worry about. CSB that's what I told him. Even if he doesn't, he still won't do stuff he didn't know. Ryan likes to get paid in sushi. Yeah that's right, that's right. That's exactly right. What the hell was that? I have no idea. What are you talking about? Somebody started playing his Sonata or something. I don't know about that. He's like, what's going on? And. Well, here, the more important news we forgot to ask you about. Yeah.

Has the snake turned down the water again any time? No. No snakes been good. No more water. Turn it. George, which I think is hilarious. This. Yeah. Say to leave the house and then, turn it on the TV. Turn down the shower. Yeah. She's like, why is my electric bill and my water bill so high? The first saw was definitely like when the snake figured out how to open doors. I was like, you know, they they don't really save.

These are intelligent animals, right? But clearly, somebody has been pretending not to be intelligent. Yeah, there's something going on. They have problem solving abilities. Well, they they figured out how to do things that involve rotating things without using hands, which they're pretty good at because they could wrap their tail around it. And like, this is no problem.

No, not at all. Easy. So yeah, it just it does mean that, you know, I'm like, I'm hoping he hasn't figured out how to open windows. Is that would be not good for him if he decides to go on the little journey outside and walk around there for a little bit that that says, I will buy Ryan Membros lunch when I get that surgeon seed money for my start up, let them eat sushi. Yeah, it's a good start up in Detroit. I bet you there's a lot of call for sushi eating in Detroit.

You think maybe maybe we're missing a, a golden opportunity here? Okay. I don't have a whole lot of interest in going stagger, but I have even less than going to Detroit. Chicago? We got. Well, you could still go downtown to just, you know, 35 minutes down the expressway. Boom. You that the last time I was in Chicago, you probably remember, I in that I, we pistol whipped that hooker out on south after that. That did it the other time.

Oh. The, when I was, flying through and my flight took off before my flight to there landed, like the flight. Outgoing was early to leave, and the flight incoming was late in arriving. Did you explain to them how connecting flights were? I, I tried to, and they're like, hey, this is Chicago.

I was like, you're right. Yeah. So I ended up having to stay overnight to take the next morning flight in. And, and so you hooked me up with, Giordano's, which was pretty good, even though you say it's not certainly the best in Chicago. I was like, Giordano's. I mean, I'm more of a thin crust guy. And they are vastly different. I we haven't been to a place. Yeah, well, one of them is like the the meat stew of pizza, and the other one's a cracker. So, yes, this is true.

We went into a Cesena pizzeria, which used to be down on Archer Avenue, which was on the way home from the White Sox games to where I lived. And then they moved out into the suburbs. We get there rarely. It had been a while there, but not the closest pizza place. So I mean, for convenience, people don't normally go out of their way an extra even 15 minutes to get pizza because, well, the other ones are pretty good. They're closer.

But we went there the other day after I had my to echo, and which is what you want to do? You want to get the heart scans done, and then you want to go load up on some pizza. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The only way is you're safe. You've got that 24 hour window where you're safe. Do anything you want with no consequences. Right. That's how it works. If my heart was going to blow up, this chick would have seen it and warned me about it. So. Yeah, exactly. Everything's good.

I had forgotten how sweet their sauce was. And that's the drastically different thing. Yeah, and it's interesting that the Chicago pizza people say, you know, it's a thin crust, but you could go to ten different places and they have such different ways of going about it. And then even more so, probably with the deep dish stuff.

And yeah, then you have all these different cities that are not main tier pizza cities that seem to have their own, like everybody knows about Chicago style deep dish and New York, you know, flat, oversize pieces and and then you've got like the Philadelphia style pizza or the Detroit style pizza. And it's. Yeah, it's a it's a slightly different type of pizza, but mostly the only people that really know about it are people that live in that area. Oh yeah.

There's a lot of places that are just local legends, and there's places that I've heard about in the Chicago area that I've never gone to, but I suppose they're always making these top lists. But, you know, as the most unique, the best. I think the problem with Deep dish these days is most people can't afford it. Well, this is true too, you know. And one piece is like 4 pounds. So it's depending on how much you really want to eat. People don't have a problem eating.

They have a problem affording this stuff because, even back in the day, like when the normal pizza was ten bucks, the deep dish was like 18 to 22, and now deep dish is like 45 to 60, right? Well, who wants to spend 60 bucks on a single pizza? Now, when you realize that single pizza weighs 7 pounds, right. It's a lot of pizza. I mean, okay, there's a lot of cheese, meat and sauce and another layer of cheese and another layer of meat, but it's, it is not affordable for a lot of people.

Like, that's the kind of they would go grocery shopping for a few days on that amount of money. Oh, yeah. While the groceries in the store are the same problem. So there's that. Well, yeah. But there's it's a question I think a lot of it is just a question of what you're willing to spend on a combination of things at the grocery store. You're not willing to spend on a single food. That would make sense right now.

If you buy all the ingredients to make the pizza, you probably would spend that much. There is a lot of profit in pizza. At least there should be. If your pizza place is not making big bucks, well, they're doing something even more insane. Style pizzas. Even the thick. I mean, it's a lot of dough, which isn't really expensive.

I mean, there's a sure, there's not a whole lot of dough, dude, if you look at if you take all the ingredients and scrape them out of the dough, the dough in the deep dish pizza is maybe like one and a half times what it is. And then trust I'll find the link. Two guys just did this in Chicago, okay? To like, swap places. Yeah. Deep dish enough they will. They gave you their ratings and showed you how thing it was what was in there. Okay. That was like oh my god six of these in a day.

By the time you get to the sixth place, you have to want to shoot yourself in the head because slices of deep dish are very, very they're more like a brick more than anything else. I don't know about a brick, but they're certainly they're they're like. They're heavy weight. You feel it? But CSB is still talking to us, and he's the only one. So I think another 1030 threes like you do are great lovers. Podcasting 2.0 podcast good worth albeit too much Chicago talk today.

So we have some more sugar. Yeah, way too much Chicago stock. CSB is not even coming to Chicago for the meetup. Oh, it's a wait. CSB are you guys coming to Chicago for the meetup next year? Maybe July August sometime in that range? That'd be a great time to come to Chicago. Time for what you want to do during the Taste of Chicago. Well, no, that would be mid. That'd be a good reason to do it.

The while the Taste of Chicago I think has been moved these last couple of years and I saw the NASCAR schedule again is here I swear to Indiana no same place but they moved in a few weeks later because like, when there's cars here taking over the streets, we got to do it somewhere else. Now it's NASCAR yearly thing. Yeah, this is like it's third year. I was surprised I thought they had a two year contract, so I thought it would be two years and done.

But obviously they're, they're working another deal with Chirac because they're coming back. I still July. Yeah. I still think the Death Race 2000 concept makes the most sense. I'm still surprised there been no bullet holes in the cars after the. Yep. Because that would seem to me to be hard to believe that it hasn't happened. I mean, the last one, the the television hit the Palestinian protesters that were trying to get on the track. But otherwise, you know, there's always something fun.

You mean Hamas? You feel free to call them Hamas, right? No, there's fine people on both sides that Joe Biden. Wasn't that what he said? I think so it's amazing that he actually said that. But it would be ironic if he wasn't insane. Yeah, that there were people and he didn't say that. Exactly. Just to be clear, he said those those protesters have a point. Like, what do you mean, he did? He did say that, though. There's actual there's an actual, blip, a video from him saying, fine, people.

I don't think he said on both sides, but they he said they're fine people. It's like, oh my God, you got to be shitting me. This is literally what you guys have been criticizing Trump for, saying. Of course, I saw Trump on The Sean Ryan Show and that Trump needs to run. Ben Bro said, Trump ism. Everybody shows that this is ridiculous. I mean, he's done way too many podcast. I know I'm like, we could probably get him would be I mean, do we even want him at this point?

He's been anything you could just cut it up kind of worn out other show right where Kamala is nowhere. Trump is everywhere, which is an interesting way to go about it. Did you see him putting the wreath on the, soldiers, memorial there and, yeah. And he was there because the news coverage bullshit yet again. That the story seems to be that they had an approval to bring a private photographer with them. Now, you can't do political stuff there, but I don't see this as being political.

He was invited there. Yeah. By the families who had right service members die in Afghanistan. Yeah. That debacle. Yeah. And so they wanted to commemorate that. Now if he would have gone and used those images in ads, well, then he's a dead. No, he's dead. Really? You don't if that. No. If that is the rule that you don't politicize what goes on there in both sides. What the hell does that mean? Politicize it. Did it happen or it did not?

If you you see, there was an out there, if you use it in an ad that I would say the thing that is in the news, you can use it in that. Well, if it's in the news, that then becomes an interesting concept because you're like, I'm just taking a, yeah. Taking a bit of the news. Did you see the, Trump Derangement Syndrome video that. Yeah, that was beautiful. That was funny. With try independence. It's not for it. But yeah, like so true. It isn't for everybody. It's so true.

Look, you got to be able to think for yourself. That way you can choose what kind of deep dish pizza you want, but they all do. You think they think. But that's the thing, though, is that this is not a convincing argument because they all think they independently came to the conclusion that anybody beat Trump. Morning Joe told me mid morning Joe said, no, no, you know. No, we're in Sherman or in Sherman. Bad. You coming? They decided that they were never told that.

They decided that on their own accord. So CSB, are you coming to Chicago and what kind of pizza do you like? Deep dish or thin crust. These are questions people want to know. Or froggy pizza. Dude, we got a lot of pierogi here. I've never tried making a pierogi pizza, but it was kind of seem like backward because the pierogi would be like the base of the pizza. So, I mean, I guess you could make a it would depend on the you make a pizza size pierogi right?

Then you make so you got the, you got the dough on the bottom, kind of like a pierogi that would be folded over. But then you just throw in. What do you like, some sausage and sauerkraut? Are you more of a bacon? Are you more of a potato guy? When you're pierogi, you can put any of those in and have a nice little, just throw a little bit of sauce on. That would be like a pierogi inspired pizza anyway. But that's the intriguing part about this pizzeria was that it was started after World War.

I'm guessing two. I don't think it was World War one, but it was started after one of the world wars by two Polish brothers who opened up a pizza place. There was the killing the Polish brothers. It was like that was their names too. Like Charles and Dan. And so it was chess. Dad's pizza. But they were a couple of Polish guys who started this place, and it's been around for decades. And they say anybody doesn't know what a pierogi is. It's basically a pot sticker.

Make we a nice pot sticker, though. I mean, it's it it's Polish. You can put them in a spot sticker. You can put them in some boiling water. But usually after you do that, you want to put them in some butter to fry them up a little bit. But yeah, with some onion and they can come stuffed again with I mean I've had mashed potatoes in the my a baking it you. Oh yeah. That was right. Stuff onions. Potatoes. Yes. Yeah. A good pierogi is hard to beat.

But yeah the KSP would probably come in for pierogi con 2025 to that. We could just, we could I mean but last time I was at Taste Chicago there's a lot of progres to be eaten. He says I'm never coming to Chicago okay. See that that there you go. This event ain't happening. That that is a done deal. CSB number one. Wow. Yeah. The number one, set contributor in the world says he's not coming. No, I don't think he is. I think it's our buddy Dale Jr, who, likes to stream stats of the shows.

That does. He he listens. Unreal. I think he listens to unrelenting. I don't think he said the other day he noticed that his fountain app, he has streamed over a million satoshis now, which is like 600 bucks. So that's an a bucks. Yeah, it's it's pretty much the amount that I'm losing, with this stupid fricking voltage. Voltage situation. There's a million satoshis. Yeah, yeah, that hasn't gotten cleared up. The we're. Well, I basically just threw my arms up and said, okay, I'm just done.

I'm done paying for the service. I'm just going to write this off. Should I have they have you have you? Adam volunteered to help. I'm like, dude, it's not worth the time. We've tried everything. It's like the. And then the guy from voltage, it's like, well, why don't we get on the phone, call this the first time? He's actually willing to talk, because before that, it's all through email. And he's like, yeah, I'm just super curious myself, what's going on?

I want to make sure that we've looked at absolutely everything, because this has never happened to us before. Yeah, well that's unbelievable since. Right. You know, you did not turn on me. I did not do jack shit. That account was not logged into for literally years and offer any if they would have offered a service to make that great channels. I want to use this right off the get go, but right they didn't. So I had to do it manually at the beg other people to get channels opened up to me.

So it was it was a bizarre situation and the fact that the channels are just stuck. Adam suggested if the amounts that the channels were offering for payments to open them were too low, then they could be sitting there and waiting and nobody actually accepts them. But, from this guy looking at, I mean, he says, no, the amounts are in line with all the other channels that we've opened up, and they open up right away. So they don't know what the hell is going on.

But I think we're supposed to have a phone call next week, like Monday or something. I don't know, it'll be good content. Maybe Mondays, Labor Day, so I don't know. Yeah, it's probably not Monday on. It's probably. Wait, is Labor Day the first or the what. Oh it's Monday whatever. This is Monday. I don't even know. Monday 30th May. So is it the second. The first is so the second is Monday. So maybe, yeah, Labor Day, second Monday. So Saturday is, oh, it's oh.

I thought September only had three days, I guess, to get through. No, 31 maybe, or. Sorry. August rather. Right. Well, we don't it doesn't matter what month we're in. What's right. Enough. We've learned that number has 30. August has 31. Apparently, when they pull that switch on us, have you tried to see if the snake can get your assets back? He seems resourceful. He is resourceful. That's a good point. Maybe he can figure out how to turn something and then just, undo the sad thing.

If it would mean extra rabbit in his cage, you'd be like, give me that. Yeah. Yeah, he likes the rabbit to go. Who doesn't? Good eating man. Little Hassan Pfeiffer. That's right. Little house. In fact, many people are like, what's that? If they say never watched, they never watched, Bugs Bunny. I'm gonna have some hazard Pfeiffer for dinner. Yes, indeed. I hope you get your food ordered. I mean, I remember now, I kind of want a nice big, deep dish pizza.

They take, like an hour, though. That's the other. Oh, no. They take two hours if they're done right. Yeah. I mean, if it's an hour, if they have them in the fridge ready to go and they can, just pop it in the oven, it's an hour in the oven. But if they have to make it from scratch, it's longer than that. And I remember I actually ordered my pizza on the phone to be at the restaurant an hour and a half later, which works. Yeah, but then I was able to take a couple of with me.

You brought them home frozen pizzas. I brought my yeah, it was flying out to my AC. My, my. So I brought them some frozen pizzas. There are a couple of beef places that I'm sure they still do it, but the, Portillo's was really. It still is big, but their quality has gone to crap. I'll fight anybody that tells me Portillo's is still the best beef in Chicago. It's not.

But back in the day, when they were great, they were doing big business with sending out the kits, with the frozen beef, with the buds and all of the, fixins. There's there's nothing quite like a good Italian beef, neither. That all started right here in Chirac, where you were taking the all good food. All street food is kind of like, well, how do we take really bad ingredients and make them edible? Frying them? Usually frying works might work wonders.

Yeah. That's, it it's the thing that that is the most tasty is fat.

So donuts are so good. I hate dance. What? Really? Yeah. Never like them all. Donuts? Pretty much. I mean, just the cake type. Or do you not ever have, like, a good Dunkin Donut or. I just don't know, I, I never like donuts, which is interesting because I like bagels. I mean, you look like you like donuts. I may look like I like donuts, but I really don't. And when I, when I remember I used to have to buy donuts because that was like a rotating thing, I would still never eat them. Things.

And a bagel looks like a donut. Yeah. Just better. A little more dense. Yeah. Very, very different tastes. Very different style of bread. Yeah. But then you have to have the, the sour cream. I'm nuts are the cream cheese and. Then maybe a little bit of well there's such a variety with the bagels. I mean I know there's only one bagel which is a poppy bagel with lox. What you get, you get a plain bagel. No, you can get a chocolate chip bagel. Definitely not. Yeah. Blueberry bagel.

You can get a garlic bagel. The garlic. Yeah. Yeah. There are garlic bagels. Does does exist. Little garlic asiago. I mean, that's, that's a totally fake bagel. Well, they're all fake now, but the only real bagels are sesame seed, garlic and, poppy seed. And beyond that, then there you can. You see, if I go beyond that, it's just bullshit. Fake American ones. Where's your favorite bagel? Where's your bagel, guys you ship from? I, I, I do have a bagel guy in New York that ships them to me. Yes.

And those are the only types that they'll send you can't have bagels. Just suck everywhere else, man. If you don't buy your bagels in New York, you're not eating real bagels. You gotta have, like, night overnight, because otherwise the quality goes down. The freshness. Yeah, but there's nothing quite like it. Yeah. You want to know the name of the place? I can look it up. Oh, yeah. I stuff my head so we don't remember your bagel guy off the top of your head? No, I gotta get in mind.

Not like the good old Carnegie Deli back in the day. Man, their cheesecakes are good. Oh, they used to be. Well, more importantly, they're big. Yeah. They're huge. We ordered one. Yeah. They they were smart because they do mail order. But the. Of course, to ship a cheesecake is an ordeal. But what they do is they work with some of the local grocers now. So around the holidays usually you can get one locally and it's cheaper.

Yeah. You don't have to have a chip but it was still like 70 bucks for that. So my my bagels come from get this. Yeah. New York bagels that come off. Yeah. You did remember this I know right deep 12. Yeah I let me pop one of those in right now I had one.

So one because I've never taken a B12 until yesterday. Well we could tell and you know. Right. And I opened up the medicine cabinet and it was just sitting there, I guess the wife had bought them a while ago, and I know they've been there a long time. You just never know exactly. They're sitting there and I'm like, oh, I've never had these. And it's like, oh well under your tongue and let it dissolve. And I'm like, okay, so did a bagels. That's another real bagel.

Then all of a sudden, man, now my brain is firing on all cylinders, watching all the cylinders. All right. Which which other bagel is there? Egg bagels are traditional bagel. Oh of course. Yeah, yeah. New York bagels.com. It's a bagel. It's, New York bagels. That com okay? Yeah. Do not I just get the fucking all, you know, the what looked like a tornado kind of thing? Yeah. You do that type in New York bagel.com or mill or was that bagels? Which one did I type in?

Now, bagels is the one you want. No, no, bagels is the bad one. That's New York. The bagels just went nuts. No, no it didn't. You mistyped it then. Okay, so one word. Obviously. New York. Oh, New Yorker bagels. Oh, see you fucking now. I do not go to New York bagels. That. Well said. Anybody here? Yorker bagels? Yeah, just New York bagels. Takes you to a whole thing that you. I gotta check that out. Now, what is. What do they say? Somebody is going to fall for it, I tell you.

Go. No. Oh, no. Oh, they do, does they do donuts, too? That's weird. Do they? Yeah. Like the first thing when I go to box sets, it's like it's because it looks like they're. And, they're like chocolate. They can't be doing, can't be doing bagels or do they do bagels covered in chocolate? I never seen such things. That looks like, oh, that is a hilarious. Like you're right. There's like a tornado. Well, it's trying to make you think that, So it's. Yeah, I'm gonna describe it here.

It's it's doing a faux dozen different pop up windows, the top of which they're all Microsoft's Windows, top of which says IP address city Austin ISP. Does NSA access to the system is blocked for security reasons? Please call windows support. And then they have a number that goes to India, right, to scam you. And it says allow or deny. And anything you click get will go to the same place that says you have to call now. Security warning your PC has been compromised. Call this number.

Now get get your money out. Oh sir, sir, give me your sir. Give me your, your. Oh, it's making better. It makes noise. Oh no, it makes noise now that's great. Sir, we need your bank account number, sir. You'll never get bagels if you don't give me your, number. Please. What do we do? Please ask him. What's the tab on your computer? Please do not attempt to shut down your computer because of identity theft. Oh, who. Who is following this this morning for this? This is hilarious.

Yeah, it's it's awesome. It's the pumpernickel bagel that looks like it's chocolate covered. Oh, pumpernickel. Yeah, yeah, it's very brown. Is it true? When I first saw I'm like it quick look. I'm like, oh, it's like a chocolate covered donut. I have to order some bagels. Yeah, so don't go to New York bagel. I can, it'll make noise. Yeah. You do them well, although if you have somebody you don't like, tell them go to, New York Bagel. They have the best stuff.

And then when they freak out, tell them. Yeah, you just typed it wrong. Yeah? Yeah, exactly. Oh. Yeah. You you you. You. Said.