121: Just Show Up

I just wanted to, confirm this. Are you alive, Gene? Maybe.

Your IP. Woo!

I am Dalgety, man. This is unrelenting. Ly. Are you? Yeah. This is my first live show in, like, two weeks. You with the co-host? This is it. Oh my God. Does everybody abandon you? Well, that, I thought it was just me. Now, that was, I mean, Larry's on vacation. He left the country just to get away from. Yeah. Nice. Nice. You know, Larry, we dropped a special planet rage on Monday. That we prerecorded is in on this upcoming Monday. And then we'll be back the following Monday.

But then the grumpy Old bands has been on hiatus. I mean, has got a different schedule. Right? And then he had a hard drive. Die and. Oh, that sucks. And the overall nobody ever donates to that show and we ask for donations there. So it's different. Oh, okay. And so I mean that's been on hiatus for a little while. And then last Friday I was like I was ready to do a show. I'm like where's the stream, where's Gene? And then the minute I disconnected the stream you're like, oh I'm up.

Yeah. Yeah. Well I had to wait until I heard you disconnect the stream before I told you I was going to be. Oh, are you ready now? Right. Oh. You're ready. We got to go. We're ready to go. Ready to rock and roll and. Well, no, no. You see, your problem last week was you got up too early, right? And then and then fell back.

Because I'm up. I'm up before the time. I'm ready. I'm rocking. I'm ready to go. It's kind of kind of like that because I. I think I woke up like an hour and a half before the stream or something like that. And then realized that, oh, I've got tons of time, at least in your mind. You thought you had tons of time. Well, I, I in my mind, I didn't realize that I was still sleeping. So the disconnect was, was that, I overestimated my desire to shut down my my brain with my eyeballs close.

Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. But, yeah, it was, It's kind of weird because normally I have the alarm go, like a half hour before I show. So that way, whether I'm awake or not, I'm like, oh, shows in half now, right? Yeah, plenty. And I woke up early enough last time that I actually turned off the alarm. That was a mistake, right? Yeah. You don't want to do that. You're like, no, I'm thinking like, oh, I am sorry. Yep. All right. you know.

So Siri turned the alarm off and, Yeah, that I should have let it keep going like normal. That way you'd been like, okay, I would have to turn it off if it were like, oh, wow. I would have. I would have woken up again and said, oh shit, I must have fallen asleep after I thought I was awake, and you would have been surprised that you would have been ready to do the show, like study.

Okay. Yeah. You screwed everybody out of a quality episode. This is the good news, is that it only required an additional 20 minutes for me to to nap before I woke up with no alarm. And being the fact that the last episode was entitled Gene loses memory, now he can't even stay awake. I mean, you are falling apart, man. I know, I know.

Well, what's your plan B? Man? Seems like everyone's abandoned you, so, retire and, just do more things that aren't how you should think about maybe doing a show with Adam or something. When, all the restaurants are gone, when everybody else leaves, finally be like, okay, Adam, we need to. We need to do a show. It's time. Adam. I mean, he's mentioned a couple of times when I played some Def Leppard that I need to remind him to tell me a story about joining the Rock of ages club.

So maybe Adam really just needs a co-host to help him go through all of the fun memories of the, the MTV years. I listened to that. I think it would be quite interesting. I mean, a lot of people just if you listen to No Agenda and you're not familiar, and a lot of people I don't think were with cable TV, there's some people that still didn't have cable TV, but it's like he's interviewed and met like almost everybody involved in music around that time.

I don't know why he's almost using everybody. There was nobody that he was the main interviewer. Dude of the bands and MTV is from where I remember. I mean, granted, it's been a few years, but, even things that had nothing to do with Headbangers Ball, he was the one to interview. I mean, Michael Jackson interview, right? One of the most famous ones. And it's like, if only we had all the archives of that, that'd be some good stuff. Well, he does have like four boxes in his garage. Oh, well.

So we don't have just I don't know if I'm supposed to talk about that, but, seems like there's a lot of tape in there. I think we want to digitize that in. Good. I see boxes that see MTV and the sign on there that is. Yeah, it might actually be the, like a console or something from MTV. Yeah, right. Like they're not using it anymore. What do they do that for? No, it's it's his booty from the lawsuit. Oh, that's true too. Yeah. I mean, this was again, people are very unfamiliar.

I mean, if you're a no agenda listener, you're probably

heard the story of how Adam got the domain. Adam curry. Yes. Adam Curry, Adam Clark Perry, the pod father, the guy with the hair from MTV was the first one in on the internet thing and registered when it was free, when you just had to, like, email a guy and be like, yeah, can you give me this, domain name mtv.com? And then MTV didn't even want it. When he walked out the door. They thought it was some nerdy, stupid thing. like, who's ever going to need that? It's like, oh, that's nice.

If somebody contacts you at MTV, you can go ahead and reply. One less thing for us to do. right. Let's work. And then they're like, oh, wait a minute, that's our brand. we own that. Yeah. And you've been stealing it for all these years without knowing it. Without our knowledge, things change very quickly. and the, the legal system, I guess, worked in that case. And there's like, I sounded like, you know, he's had pretty good luck with legal. I have a variety of cases he's been involved in.

He tends to win these things. Good at arguing. Well, it's funny because I would not say that around about him in general. I think he's very, agreeable. Well, he is, but that he seems to be easy to win in court. Right. You got to make your case. Maybe some judges make, like, agreeable people. They're like, oh, all right, well, everybody likes agreeable people. By definition. That which is one of the stupid things about agreeable people. He's like, he's agreeable.

Now, can you tell if I'm agreeable or not? I don't think you are wrong.

You're wrong. Whoa. That was wow. That came in. That was a clip from McLaughlin. Yeah. How did you act with that clip, man? How did that even happen? That's me. Okay, not in the recording, but in the, in my years, you certainly sounded like a clip that was like, that's loud. I know. Right. That'll bring Jim down a little bit, man. What kind of casting are you doing this morning? Oh, man. Just tea. Caffeine. Well, yeah, but what kind of tea? Because, I mean, you might have overloaded, nothing.

Just the regular kind. I don't know, man. I, I've been, I, like I haven't played a space game in a while. oh. I've been trucking lately. He is jetting off to live. I'm Darren O'Neill. This is unrelenting. And. Yeah, I saw you were driving during. You were. I mean, you were so missing Adam Curry that you were virtually driving around his town. I mean, so happened. It's a little weird that the, the trucking, job seemed to require me to drive through Adam's, neighborhood.

That's kind of weird there that I could just deliver. Did you drop things on his front lawn? I mean, what do you. No, no, no, I'm not a stalker. I'm going to drop shit on the front lawn, but I. You know, it did happen to drive through town. The game would have been way more realistic if it would have had Adam come out with the judge and start, like shooting at the truck. Get off my lawn.

I had, well, more than likely would have been more like Phoebe yelling of the truck would have been probably more realistic. True. Barking like though bad, bad can. Yeah, the dogs have a good sense of right and wrong and they, they get a gene scent and they're like, no, smells like snake. Now, now now that's fine with me. The Phoebe does not bark when I'm there, so why no space games? You trying to take a break? Are you just really it wasn't it?

Well, I guess I've been flying spaceship tricks for a while, and then I just sort of. Right, you know, get, It's like, oh, yeah, I have this other game and steam and that, maybe, maybe it was the fact that there's a few states that have been released since I haven't played, but Game Warner and I thought, oh, maybe I'll go check out. I mean, they're not exciting that they released, Kansas and Nebraska. You don't have to pay extra for Kansas. Do. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Sure do.

And it's exciting. This is why aren't we involved in software that we should be doing? I used to be there like you. You missed out, you know, like I have a great idea. We can do an over the road. I am. I did not miss out. I was involved in software during Y2K. you can sell states. You can actually charge people tolls to go over toll bridges. That would be great. I am now you want to get from point A to B in point in time.

The only way you can win the challenge. You gotta go over this year. Bridge. and they're usually per something per axle. So those big rigs with the big loads, it's like it's a big, big amount. You gotta pay em. Just like real life. Yeah it is, it is quite similar to real life. And I know, man, now, I've been looking at ads for trucks where you want to buy a big rig. You want to be an over the road fun. Wouldn't it be fun?

You do a podcast while I'm driving that that says you're bringing the Martha Quinn energy to the show? That's interesting. Martha, which one of us do you. Because you're you know, you're the one talking about, like, big rigs, I guess. But you can ask her, buddy. It's Martha went into big rigs. I'm not aware of this. She was on MTV. I know who she was, but, I mean, she still is. I think she's. I don't think she's dead. you know, Mitch, right now, it's net. Net?

No, she's dead. And he's saying you're bringing the Martha Quinn out here. Yeah, that's pretty dark. I it was just a reference to our topic, ten minutes ago of MTV in general. Probably. I just opened up that, that's, I mean, I was a fan of Martha Graham for back in the day, for sure. Way back when? In the day in the music department. When? But now I know our buddy sir truck driver is probably out there listening. So, I mean, if you want to do a ride along, I'm sure he would, bring you along.

I mean, you probably have to get your license to me while I let you behind the wheel, but I've been thinking about signing up for that. You remember back in the 80s, that was like, every other commercial on late night TV. Like sign up to be a big driver, get a CDL in jeans. Like, I want to do that so that I had a CB radio. When I go back in the 80s, I had a CB radio in my room back in the 80s. Man. Oh, I had the one in the car. I mean, that was before I even had a car.

I had a base station with a magnetic antenna, so it didn't get real far, and it wasn't like my parents were letting me put a antenna on the roof or anything. But there was a, a cadre of people who in the area, like kids that were using CB to communicate because people are like, wait a minute, why would you do that? It's like, well, we didn't have cell phones. One, two. There was usually only one landline in your house, and that might possibly

somebody else being used. Or your parents were like, get off the fucking phone. So it CB kind of cleared that up with those bulletin boards, damn it. Well, that's true too. That was the other thing. Once the computers started taking up a line. I mean, that was a big deal when I got my own phone line, when I was like, you know, 15 or whatever, it was. Yeah, like, but now I can connect to the PBS with my tears. 80 colors.

I remember, I remember my dad was paying for the second line, which I was using for the computer, and then I realized that, like, all these add on things were reasonably priced. They weren't particularly expensive. So I get like three way calling color HD. And then, what else was there? I think there was. All the new features that they came for, all the new features that they were selling. Yeah. Sorry. I'm more money. Oh, I'll go ahead and order those and I'll just pay the difference.

And my dad was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. If you get the money to pay you features, what? You pay for the whole damn line. and and I was then that's when I realized that. Oh, shit. No. Like. Yeah, that's how that works. Then I guess that Jean was privileged. net that is was saying when you were clipping, that was the Martha Quinn energy. He's like, I see Gene otherwise as more as, oh, Nina Blackwood kind of guy. No, no, definitely Martha can see. But he's he's evolved in his later years.

Now he likes the, the boy has never near black, but he likes those gamer chicks that are a little more goth. I mean, he wants them to start. Really. So that way they don't change once they start going out with him. Now it's like spinners. How you do it. Everybody, welcome to unrelenting. switch. Yes, yes. See, with the very serious podcast. Yeah. We talk about serious things here. Very serious. We look into the mental health of politicians. We talk about the finest space games.

We talk about the, Taylor Swift tour at length. And, oh, I saw the weirdest thing with Taylor Swift. I saw a little clip of her talking in a Minnesota accent. Oh, yeah, I have no idea where it was from. Or, I mean, look, pretty old. I'm going to guess probably at least a decade old.

But she was doing a bit, I would assume. But she was stuck in Minnesota, actually. I was like, oh my God, that totally fits her. It's very like Canadian, isn't it? The Minnesota accent, like, hey, yeah, what's the okay, what's the difference between a minnesotan and a Canadian? A completely different mentality. Well, ancestry and speech family, they're not that different. Ancestry. They're very different. Minnesota is well used to be until the Somalis took over.

Used to be greatly, predominantly Swedish and Norwegian and Canada was predominantly British and French. So it's very different. See, Brooklyn says this is a highly un underrated podcast, which maybe it is like every agree with that. And that's why we keep telling people at least go in and leave a good review and Apple for it if you don't donate. I mean, dying is better, but if you don't donate, at least leave a good review because we need more, more eyeballs watching and listening to us, right?

We need to grow the audience before the slot opens up. Although, I mean, the the Adam Curry with Mo show is ending soon, I think episode 100 like a year ago. It's almost there. I mean, they're almost hit 100 so that I mean, there'll be a big opening on the pod father's schedule coming up to 100 and, just to get all boys. Wow. Yeah. Wow. I'm gonna have to send, a ballet. I mean, yeah, I mean, like a trophy or, right thing.

Exactly. Like, I can't believe that I. And that's not including the 15 or so episodes we did on searching speaks the Greek word. We should do a show, but we haven't really named the show, but we're doing it on this show. Show? which is what I did with you. That's how it worked. Yeah. You were part of the, grumpy old men's law. yeah. Before we. What you. What's the co-host of Grumpy Old Men's? Until I was replaced. Yeah, we wiped you right off that page, though.

We're like, bobble, there is no no. Even better be on the Wikipedia for that. Do we have a Wikipedia for that? We did like at least 1520 episodes. I'm not sure the show's big enough for Wikipedia. I mean, it should be, but I don't know if it takes. Is one guy who's nerdy enough to know how to add a page? Well, there's a lot of those, exactly. But relenting is a completely undervalued show that brings joy to the population of America and the world.

Okay, well, I don't know what you've been smoking, but, just coffee. A lot more than the caffeine that I'm drinking, that's for sure. Oh, that's coffee, man. Just got coffee. But. But a little Snickers creamer in it. The first one was a Snickers creamer. Yeah. I mean, if you got a euphemism for something. No, no. Snicker. I don't remember if if I turned it onto it or he turned me on to it. I don't remember who was the first one to find it. And it was like, oh, coffee creamer.

But it's flavored, like with stickers. Yeah. That's insane. So I like a nice dark roast. And then he had a little Snickers creamer, just a little to cut it. But it's really decadent when you make the McCafe. And they only have this, I guess, around Saint Patrick's Day. So I have to start next year. They have a the McCafe, little K-Cups, you know, for the big machines of Irish mocha, and I'm sure it's filled with horrible chemicals. Is it minty a little bit.

There's a little bit of mint, a little bit of mocha. Yeah. I mean that's the base coming right out of the K-Cup. Then you add a little Snickers creamer and boom. It's it's all just plastic and chemicals through. And you know what else you can do with the Snickers creamer. You want to make some really good French toast. You you put the eggs, you crack them, you put them in a bowl, you put a little bit of salt in and then before you do the beating, you pour some Snickers creamer into the eggs.

Yeah. And then that way my eggs. You mean the thing you get in the box? No, I mean, I actually crack eggs you made with some real egg. I do, I use real eggs. I mean, you can also do the eggs in a carton. The only time I ever bought the eggs in a carton was when Covid first started. And all of a sudden the eggs were hard to get. Yes. And these last longer. The eggs in the carton the last longer regular eggs last quite a while though. They last over a year in.

Yeah. Yeah. But I think the expiration date on eggs in the carton is quite a bit longer. It could be like years to well like you'll be totally fine. It's like it's like three months or something. Almond milk is like months and it's like, well if you don't open it, you know, it can go way longer than that. It's all of these things with the Best Buy date for best to use.

But, I mean, I think I still have a can in the back of the pantry of Allen's baked beans that probably had an expiration of like 95 or something. Yeah, yeah, that might be worth something, though. I don't think they ever go bad. well. I mean, yeah. I mean, your sushi guy would not approve. here's the thing. Yeah. botulism doesn't grow in sushi, but would it grow? And beautiful baked beans that are like, yes, decades old.

Botulism specifically grows and produces the poison that we can't deal with. in a airless environment, oxygen free. So no. No raw foods should have botulism on them. But foods that are packaged absolutely could in it can start from oxygen. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's why it's, it's actually best if it's better to eat things that are just, you know, sitting in oxygen than that. Very weird. Yeah. Well, it's I mean, if there's no patch.

Lord, I forget the name, the backflow bacteria in there, that obviously there isn't going to be anything they can't either. Right? It's got to be there when it goes in. Yeah, but, if there is some in there, then, by the time you are being kept in the can for a long time will actually help it treat the poison. So this could be the most deadly substance on the face of the earth right now. It could wipe out all of humanity. And what would get off. Okay, that's really awesome.

There's a novel I want to write how one can of beans took down the world. I really should. I keep saying it now that all of these writing tools are so. Yeah, you should just have one of those things. Hey, you, write me a novel about this topic, Make it in the style of bloody blah. Oh, so I don't think it's quite up to doing that, but I think it's up to. I think it's up to giving you first draft quality. Here's symptoms for botulism okay. Begins with the weakness and blurred vision.

Well hell I feel both of that. This is doing that for years and having trouble speaking This film may then be followed by weakness of the chest muscles. swelling of the abdomen. Oh, the. This is bad. This doesn't describe anybody. This is everybody listening to the show right now for the part of pouty with cheese. yes. Yes, it's, Yeah. The bad. The spores for botulism are extremely common in soil and water, and they're very resistant to being cold. Well, that's why they're bad.

That's why you get food poisoning. That's what takes people out. Always cook your food properly. Do not undercooked anything except beef. Well and to be fair you know botulism generally only gets discovered in products that were home canned without the proper conditions. Oh, yes. Because most of the professional outfits will go through a sterilization process. And, you know, you have to make sure at least that the cans are bringing in anything that are haven't been compromised.

Yeah, the troll room's pointing out there are now liners that go into the cans. Of course, you don't want to cook in them, because all those phasing of the little, the PFAs, you know, the little plastic parts, you know,

they're finding that in like, everything now and it's like, is this not I don't know how it is a surprise to anybody with the way foods are package even. You know, I feel like you're being slightly healthy getting the frozen broccoli packs, but the whole put things in the bag, which I do. But I often think like this, is this really good to be heating up the food inside of a cheap plastic bag that came in? It depends on what bags made of. I mean, they can tell you it's, free of the bad chemicals.

And quite often if the bag says not using microwave, that's a good sign that that you don't want to do that you do not want to use it in the microwave. Yeah. Because the the plastics that are microwave safe to use the where a big difference is going to be that they're, they're not going to be broken down by the heat created, in the microwave, whereas a lot of other plastics will start to vaporize. Is that your USB notification or something?

Yeah. I don't know what the hell it was, but to me it was some kind of USB thing. Just made a noise on the PC. It dropped out. I'm not. I use the Mac for this, so it's different computer. Sometimes I even reboot the PC while we're talking, which is pretty cool. Yeah, I was just making sure it wasn't me because again, this is something about being old that you forget things. And I was like, well, it's been a while, but did you hit the record button? Yeah, yeah, okay. Just checking.

It's been a while since I had done the update on my computer. So again, I've had some days off and I'm like, well, there's things I can do. It's a little maintenance. The stuff that you don't normally have time to get around to. I was like, well, let me go do the updates for the Dell computer. And it's like, well, it wants to do the support assist thing. And it's like, okay, I always end up deleting and uninstalling support assist after I use the help support assist.

It is the Dell software that will examine your system, hardware and the software and tell you if there's any driver updates and all of that. You know, if there's any problems, you know, it'll do a quick memory test and all this to try to pinpoint if there are any issues. This is their big bloated piece of shit software that will do all of this. So I put support assist on and I let it run through the whole thing. And then I forgot to delete it.

And after a couple of days, I noticed that my drove by and it probably was other things, but all of a sudden it started pausing the drill. But when I would be transferring files and all that and I'm thinking, okay, the robot's finally going to go. and then it occurred to me, oh, wait, there was some kind of problem with support assist in the robot making it, pause and freeze and it's like. And then it reoccurred to me, but I'm like, I should have remembered that. But it was so long ago.

and I have no idea why nobody will ever know now, because robo doesn't exist as a company and nobody cares. But for whatever reason, the support assist software, if it's installed every now and then, the robo will just freeze up and you could really notice it when you're, you've got your music files on your robot because you're just banging along. You're having some fun. And then the yeah, what the hell. Real. Give me my music back.

So it's also would also be bad if you were I was ever using the robo to, like, record a podcast and, I never do that. I always go to a just a, you know, I'm fine even doing that to an external drive, but it's got to be, you know, USB three. But recording to an internal drive is always the preferred way to go because things can happen.

The crazy they're dumb and the the way Dell just kind of throws this stuff down your throat when you go to their page and look for drivers and it's like, let's see if you have support, a system like screw you, you know, do it, but you kind of have to opt out of it. And on their website, this is the like the main reason that I'm paying for Adobe and not installing it, because you don't want to deal with the all the Adobe crap, it just installs shit that runs 24 by seven. Yes, for no reason.

Like I just want the software for when I use it. I don't want Adobe sitting and running and taking up resources on my computer all the fucking time, but it installs like 5 or 6 different things that are running all the time. Oh, Adobe anti-piracy protection software. Oh, we're going to have to run that on your computer. No, you don't. Yeah, they are very concerned about you. pirating their software. let's see my apps running.

Of course, I've got Adobe Audition running, but that's only because while you're using that, it's recording the show, and that's currently using 14% of the CPU and about 500 Meg of memory. That's that's not much. They are, on that one. I've got 64 gigs of memory. And the thing, the more memory, the better. But yeah, there's kind of a high percentage, although it's recording three channels at one.

So I guess 13% of the CPU, that's just me that I, the, like OBS studio is only using like 1% to send this out to X. That's surprisingly low. The, it's the Microsoft Edge, which is just sitting there waiting for me. It's like, yeah, like 2% Microsoft Edge just sitting there. Yeah. 2%. That's actually not bad. I'm pretty sure my edge is using more than that. And I'm not doing anything on it right now.

Let me do a quick check that this show is all about exciting things like checking CPU utilization, chamber times, CPU test, go to the task manager everybody and see what's going on. Yeah, Chrome is horrible too, but here's what the Adobe is. Acrobat collaboration service thing. Yeah, it's all that kind of crap that I hate. You know, that's the, that it's the Acrobat update Adobe content. Synchronizer okay. Adobe crash processor. but I mean, really, there's not.

I thought there would be more there. I think that and I think you're missing 1 or 2, but. Yeah. And they're all sitting there. The nice thing is all the Adobe. Oh, there's a crash processor. They're all sitting there. They've got some sort of someone that decides what it's gonna crash. Yeah. Yes. They're all sitting there at 0% except for the content synchrony which is going between 0 and 0.1. That is. So at least those aren't using the CPU. Yeah. But how much memory they are using.

These are very small for mag 36 mag. Yeah it's that small. So those are using just very little. Now the when you start getting into what the antivirus is doing then that takes more memory and that's forever. Yeah. And there's a lot there's a way more Bitdefender things on my machine that Adobe. But it doesn't get rid of all that crap. I think takes out most of my, my idle process, which is 1.6% is steam always going? Yeah, that's always running. And then the second one is at 0.7%.

Is AMD host application, which is basically I just have the thing running for telling me what my, my frame rate is. What is your frame rate? I mean, well, it depends on what I'm running. Are you currently driving a big rig down the street that they house? but, do you have, like, the whole. I know you've got the wheel, so you have a whole wheel and pedals. Do you have a shifter, too? With your wheel? I do, but I'm not using that right now. I mean, when you play. Yeah. I'm not. Isn't that right?

No, it's not, it's not plugged in. Now I just, I, I actually kind of prefer to use the, the joystick. Like the regular joystick for the shifter. You're like old school. Yeah, because all the trucks come with automatics these days. Like how easy? This isn't even fun. Where's my shifter? Where's my clock? It's. It's way more fun with an automatic. I guarantee you that.

This is why it was interesting when NASCAR, with their latest evolution, their latest version of their stock car, use the sequential shifters rather than the old age. Yeah, I'm sure this took these drivers a long time to get used to. It's like it's got to pull it in, just keep pulling in the same direction. And it doesn't. That doesn't make any sense. Yeah. So that's that's why I'm doing it on the joystick. So either I'm going animatic or I'm playing. I'll like nonstop.

Gotta pull and I'm I'm doing sequential. I don't like is this a multiplayer game? Is there a sense that it is. Yeah. So now let me just ask this if if you and like 50 friends in the troll room all wanted to have a convoy. Yeah, we could do that. You could, like, take over this so you could do, like, protest. Could you, like, block the highways and.

Yeah, it could you could it. It does have a convoy mode built in and it has a CB simulator. Well that's even better. You know Gene would just be sitting there with a KFC bucket and one and the shifter in the other trying to steer with his knee like hey they're big buddies. How are you doing. I'm gonna get you like a, like a, episode of, South Park. This could be what we see. We could write an episode of South Park. Oh. Did that that shit writes itself.

See, Brooklyn, they're suggesting an unrelenting game night with Gene. That wouldn't be a bad idea. yeah, like seven days a week. Yeah, totally. By eight game night. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I, you know, I, I broadcast my truck driving two nights in a row. x and there's only like 12 people that tune in, but they want to play. They don't want to just tune in, they want a game. That's the first thing you do is you reply, say, oh, hey, are you playing right now? Well, yes I am.

Oh well, what's your game name on steam so I can join up. Oh here you go. So it's like I'm all for that. But people actually have to make an effort to reach out and talk to me in. The easiest way to do that is through X. So just go to sir GMT. x yeah at sir GMT x and x and you will get and send me a message. I don't care if it's a direct message or a public message or whatever.

If someone wants to go and do a whether it's convoy on American trucks, or a variety of other multiplayer games that I have, which I probably have most them, you are being invited to slide into Gene's DMs. Just no dick pics. Yeah. No dick, but, but yeah, if you want to, if you want to do some gaming and I've got the game, I'm happy to do that because, yeah, it's usually fun to do that, but depends how good the people all suppose do. But to some extent.

But stuff like American Truck SIM or your trucks, like that, there's very little skill level required there because it's as easy as you want it to be or as complicated as you want it to be. Is Gene scream name when trucking rubber gene property? Yes. Okay. Can you, like, wreck somebody else? Now if you're playing this game and the truck decides they want to like clip your loads, you jackknife. Yeah. Is this something that happens a lot in the game?

Is this, like, well, not if people know what they're doing. It's just like a side hustle where I will say, I don't very good. Lately in doing my I've, I've gotten. I don't know if it's age related or not because it does seem like I do much better at this game now than I used to in the game. Came out like seven years ago. You might just be calmer. Yeah, maybe, maybe less employed than I was. Right. You get a lot more time to practice.

yeah, maybe that's what it is, but it kind of felt like I have this memory of constantly getting into car accidents and getting tickets from the cops all the time and stuff, and now I'm like, yeah, I'll run a load from from Austin, Texas, up to Bozeman, Montana. And, and it'll be perfect. And how long does this take? it's about two and half days. Wow. This is dedication to a game. Well, in game days, not actual days. How long is that? In actual days, like 15 minutes.

that's about 2.5 hours a day per hour. Interesting. So it gets, like, really dark really quick. I mean, because then you got to deal with nighttime driving. yeah. And, you know, you can only well, in the game, you can only drive 12 hours in real life. You can only drive 14 hours a day. Will the game actually stop you or, it'll give you a ticket. That's awesome. Yeah, and it's real money.

It also simulates you being tired by making yawning sounds, which I don't know if you know this, but when you hear yawning, you start yawning. Yeah. Like you hear that a few times and you start yawning in real life and it's like, goddamn it, now I'm falling asleep for real. Kind of like when you have to pee and you hear water flowing. I yeah, kind of like that. But I think more, more likely than that. See, Brooklyn wants to know about the, the, the reality part of the game.

He's like, can you take meth if you need to get up rig from one end? I mean, you're driving the truck as a human, so whatever it takes, I guess I will get to the game. I have falling asleep a couple of times or so. They started nodding off a few times while driving a truck, just like I do in real life, which is. Does it give you that same reaction like whoa, whoa, yeah, yeah, something like that just opened up that screen again.

That was a CSB saying everybody should go to that CSB that lol with a 3333 boost. Oh well. Read that in the funny voice of that. Wow. I'm going to start hiccuping. Do you ever do that when you try to do something then all of a sudden the hiccup switches to load. You got to start a little higher pitched. But Darren w w w that says that a lot. Well Tara now I'm going to kick it off. I'm going to hiccup I got a little coffee. May try this. get the hiccups away. Come on.

There's nothing like podcasting with hiccups in a podcasting live stream. So you can pause it for half an hour, right? Let me just. We just had it this way that I had a, I'll talk while you're hiccuping. I have a bout of hiccups about two weeks ago. I think it was the first day that I came back from my trip, but I. I had a hiccup in the morning, and it just kept on going, so, you know, like that, continuously hiccuping.

But we're maybe once every couple of minutes, maybe once every five minutes I would wake up. Now that's a weird length of time between hiccups. It was it was the kind of thing where it seemed like, okay, well, it's gone now. I'm done hiccuping and that it's been five minutes later. It's like, you know, you hiccup, okay. It lasted a whole day. I've never had anything like it before. Wow. I think that's a sure sign of an aneurysm. I think it's a sure sign of something.

Maybe it's a lung blockage or something I have, but, it literally lasted a whole fucking day. And then I went to sleep. Woke up the next day. No hiccups. Usually. Get rid of them pretty quickly. All you have to do is have liquid to drink and put a lot of liquid in your mouth, and then keep taking rapid swallows of just a little bit, little bit, a little bit. And then after like usually for me ten, 15 seconds of that, the hiccups go away. Yeah. It's complicated.

All you gotta do is fill your lungs and hold your breath for a little bit, and then it's gonna you hold your breath for five minutes. The hiccups will go away. You'll be dead, but the hiccups will go away. You will not be dead. Dude. I used to hold my breath for five minutes all time. This seems like a dubious claim. This I. I would also like to see the meet up. Watch sir Gene hold his breath for five minutes. Really? No, not at all.

No, I, I was a swimmer, so I got used to holding my breath because I was swimming underwater a lot. And, you like it? Takes a while to. I think it probably took me about two years to build up to five minutes, but it's certainly doable. Let's see. Let's ask, CCP's friend, how long can a human hold its breath? It varies widely, mister. I, most people can hold their breath for about 30s to one minute with zero practice. anybody can do three seconds. One minute if you try.

Almost anybody can do the, free divers and those who practiced breath holding can often hold their breath for 2 to 3 minutes or more. the world record 24 minutes and 37 seconds. There you go. Set by Budimir Stobart using hyper ventilation with pure oxygen. Before that time. That's kind of cheating. Yeah. Otherwise you die on these problems. you know, it's kind of like, This reminds me of something else. It reminds me of these new scientific discoveries.

Like, you know, they they realized recently, fairly recently, after many, many years of telling people that, oh, you have to eat three times a day and eat snacks. it's really unhealthy to eat any less than that. Now they've realized it's, oh, actually, it's really healthy to eat once a day and no snacks. Well, everybody's a little bit different depending on your metabolism. Not really that it's purely what you're used to, but our ancestors rarely ate more than once a day.

And the ones that would have required food more frequently died off and didn't reproduce. So literally everyone who's alive right now is perfectly capable of eating once a day and living a healthy lifestyle, and that's something that we like to do every now and then. As long as I was in, ChatGPT. I asked a simple question. What can you tell me, about the fruit of. Yeah. And this this kind of blows my mind that this system. Let's see.

Gene is a seasoned business consultant and strategist known for his expertise in profit improvement and business growth efficiency. He has over 30 years of experience working with more than 500 companies. To me it sounds like you get fired a lot, including major corporations like Procter and Gamble, target, Ameriprise Financial and PepsiCo, as well as smaller businesses with annual revenues ranging from 5 million to 50 million. It's mean. It sounds like CSV.

Put that in there, like ready for a show. But yeah, I'll take it. Gene's approach focuses on helping businesses maximize profitability by analyzing expenses and identifying cost saving opportunities, which can then be reinvested for growth. He emphasizes the importance of avoiding costly mistakes and leveraging his extensive experience to guide CEOs and business leaders in making more informed decision. Now, I like this. I'm totally going to steal this and use this for my mark.

I need to cut and paste this for you Gene has. Yeah. You do a particular knack for preparing businesses for sales. You need to liquidate your business. Jeans your guy. You got spaceships to sell. You got a business to sell out. He helps to maximize their valuation by tailoring strategies to the specific needs and goals of the company and its owner. Additionally, good as we get down to the end here.

Additionally, Gene Co host the unrelenting podcast was Darren O'Neill, where they discuss a range of topics including politics, technology and society. The podcast is known for its engaging and eclectic mix of humor, personal anecdotes, and listener interactions. For more any damn good description? For more detailed information about his work and insights, you can visit his profile on the Wizard of Ads website or check out the Unrelenting podcast.

And then it has links to even. There's an ad for unrelenting. That's awesome. I know this is beautiful. I like the AI overlords. I know the AI is getting better and better every day. Like, I think that's a very nice description. I kind of like it. It's interesting. It is interesting. Yeah. It's like the stuff that is involved in this little, you know, data base that this thing has for just me.

It's one thing you would expect it to know things about, like big time celebs, but you don't really go, well, no, it's not going to know anything about individual people. Now. People know it's almost out there that everything is, available. You don't need to have a paid account anymore to access what they have. Well, you have a very big limitations. Like stop paying them. I mean, unless I'm not sure if the new model is available to the free people, but everything below it is

now. Yeah, the everybody should really check their, their profiles and see what the GP says about yet. But you never know what you're going to find. That's right. I don't know if I even want to put my name in. That's but yeah you may find out things you don't want to hear on there. I know it's like what do you mean? well known for stealing music. Hey, I do the rock n roll pre-show. Jay-Z. I was a true professional. We did JCD oh, yeah. Yeah. Finally yesterday.

I know I even texted you when I, when I heard that, I'm like, what the hell is going on? I was how's he actually tell something positive about you? I know it's rare. I mean, I think he always felt threatened, like you were going to steal his job. Yeah, it says, let's see here. Darren O'Neal is a versatile and accomplished individual, notably active in both podcasting and amateur boxing. Well, that's a different guy. Yeah. Okay, there we go. But I like mixing.

I like the mixing of that because then people will think I'm a badass. Yeah. Co-host is several podcasts, including Grumpy Old Bands, unrelenting and Random Thoughts. personal musings, technology, politics. He's known for his engaging style and insightful commentary, contributing to his popularity in the podcasting community. yes, you're popular in the community. You. It also says I'm a boxer from Ireland, which I am not. How's that community going, by the way?

The community for, everything, I mean, for whatever used to be no agenda, social. Well, no agenda social is, pretty much gone. Yes, I love that. And no authority social, which took his place, is about showing that. And you're not missing anything. I mean, there's some people that are still over there, but it is down to a, less than it was, which is sad. it is currently active users about 1600 a month.

which at its high end, I mean, I know there were about 10,000 accounts, but the reality was the amount of people using it, it was between 6 and 7000 active users per month. That's a generous I'd say more like five. But yeah, it well, I mean, when I looked at the numbers, I mean, active users is one thing for a month you get right? Right. That's true. Or you maybe even if you check. I don't know if the active means if you check it or you log in or what.

I think the last or the last log in that I had on there before it went tits up, I want to say I had around three and a half people following me on there. Three and a half people. That's hard to do. 3500 people. because I think you had 4000, right. I don't know. I never I never quite caught up to you, but I was pretty close. and most people had less than that. And, the engagement severely started dropping out for about six months before it died.

Yeah. Like, even with all the people subscribed, the number of people actually communicating started going down. And as much as everybody wanted it, I mean, the people that love it and didn't understand what happened, they turned a blind eye to the less than desirable content that was on the server. Yeah. Like if you never logged in to read stuff and you only use it for private messages, then you probably wouldn't have noticed the assholes on there.

But it is down to very little on the fed averse getting any kind of reaction. There's still a few people, I mean our buddy, no berets still over there. Of course CSB is over there, but the amount of people using it seem to be. Yeah, even less than the drop from the 5 or 6000 to about the 1600.

Again, you don't know who's real people. I mean, you can sign up for a thousand accounts if you want to. Yeah, yeah, it could be all bots. I hear it's all Russian bots anyway. I mean, that's what they're saying about Twitter and X or whatever you want to call it now. Yeah, but once the the metaverse was a great idea and none of these things that came to try to compete with Twitter, whether it was gab, whether it was Truth Social, none of them took off anywhere near in the same way.

Well, that's not true. I think gab absolutely took off in a much bigger way, but there's still nowhere near what Twitter is or was. Oh no, not Twitter. But as far as the metaverse, yeah, that was one of the more biggest thing. the federers. But I think once people realize that is your second choice, it's like, well, I can go reach a hundred thousand people on Twitter, or I can reach a thousand people on gab or the metaverse. Yeah. You don't put as much time or likes 10 million on TikTok.

Yes. Well, yeah. Which is absolutely insane. You. But I mean that's only if you're a young female who's willing to dance around in very little clothing or a male who can follow instructions. using AI will, you can do that for me in there's, there's, I sent you a thing that says how to create your own avatar to make millions. The disinformation purveyors and, over at poster Dot world is asking, is the fetty dead on the fetty? So it's like, this is it's it's an interesting meta thing.

I'm getting a question right now through the verse while talking about the metaverse, and I don't think it's dead yet, but I think it is, no, I think it it's, I'll tell you, I, I it doesn't matter if there's people with accounts there.

It's dead because after Musk bought Twitter, the majority of the people that were pushing out all free speech off of Twitter, the majority of them jumped ship and moved to the Federers and then continue doing what they have always done on Twitter, except now doing an unfair verse. And the ferry became more and more woke over time. Oh, and the one exception of is you have the complete posters which luckily they most of them use the same domain on there, so it was easy enough to block.

But as I said, that whole shit poster domain like, but not all of them. And so you have what used to be a queue, a communication platform for listeners of now in the show. Right turn into basically people that want to ban anything that isn't gay and people that want to only post provocative things that talk about gay shit or Nazi shit or Jews or whatever. Pick your controversial topic. Well, because the people that want became the extremophiles, right?

But we have extreme left and extreme right, because the people that weren't allowed to spew out what they wanted on Facebook and acts and Instagram and TikTok went to the metaverse, right. And that makes sense. And when Twitter got bored, then so did the opposite counterparts right there. All the sudden the left is like, no, no, we can't stay on Elon. No, fuck Elon, he's he's antichrist. But the left can never carry anything on their own.

We've seen that with talk radio. It's the same thing with this. They're too stupid to be able to carry their own speaking out of Elon. But before we do that, I just want the I think the no agenda branding was the only reason thousands of people went signed up there and took part because they felt like it was a closed community. And I know this is antithetical to everything that the metaverse people like, but having yeah, an instance, no agenda, whatever.

Yeah. Even if it had no ability to contact the outside world, I think would be successful. I will tell you why you're wrong, because that was tried in the past, about a decade ago. Yeah, but this is a new world. Maybe. And it was a bulletin board. Yeah, but then it started off exactly in the same way with people that love no agenda. Yeah, but bulletin boards are dead. I used to be on the bulletin board.

And then the day by the people that started it and the ones that were the most prominent users, all talking about how Adam is rich and he lies about how much money he has. And we can't believe people are getting duped and sending money to them. That was something that most people don't even realize. You have way more money than Adam. Yeah, I wish Gene roll with this. Look, there's a difference between how much I spend and how much I have. I don't know if you realize there's a difference.

Gene is he got way more going out than he is coming in. Oh, millions more, I think. I think it's great that memory is isolating the. I will tell you why you're wrong. So you'll be hearing you say that gets a lot of, a lot of times. And, let's see. Yeah, I have a sign on my desk that that says, I'm not arguing with you. I'm just explaining why you're wrong. The disinformation purveyor says in regards to you having the whole domain blocked many such cases.

But it's weird to complain that the fed sucks when you blocked the best domains. And he said, this is for Jean because apparently he's blocked me. He said that the disinformation purveyor. Who is that guy over there at Poster World? Oh, it's a toaster. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that whole domain just was horrible. God awful. But the bulletin boards, people drop that. That used to be back in the day.

I mean, I love the bulletin boards because people had a little bit more of an attention span back then. And you could go in and there are still bulletin boards that exist. It's called Reddit. Reddit still exist, right? Reddit exist, and there should supporters. Yeah, but where this really works is where people are. There's still forums.

What's it Steve Hoffman's, which is a producer music guy, has forums where people get really deep into the weeds about the way albums were recorded and all of this, and you can still have a bulletin board where people post more than a line or two. Yeah, and then jump out. But the mentality for people now seems to be very much in the Twitter short message back and forth. And I don't think you can get Reddit community, well, not Reddit.

But then again, a lot of people have jumped off of Reddit, including the fabulous Ryan Beam rose because of the problems with, CSP, advertising. Again, 3333 but this time he wants you to go to that singularity dot express. He says, Clover real. And we say Clover right back to CSB. That's his new website, singularity Dot express. And how many express extensions I used to play as catchy as the, CSP dot lol yeah, that's a pretty good one.

The Dot express I mean once I you know, I don't know why, but I always assumed that there would only be like three letter domains because that's what we first learned. We learned.com. We learned dot net. We learned.org. We learned.edu. Yeah. When these things start popping up like dot kitchen. Yeah. Like why how this is just too much I'm just I don't understand why triplex number can't well it should have because we would have made it very easy to super easy to filter. Except here's the problem.

Sites like Twitter and other social media allow the posting of pornography so they don't. Would you be forced? Yes they do. There's porn all over social media. Nope nope nope. They did not allow pornography. It's there, but they don't allow it on Twitter. I think they do. They do not allow it like the terms of service. Well you're wrong. I could take these terms of. But you can think all day long. But you're be still wrong. You're wrong. This seems to be a theme going on today's show.

yeah. Yeah. What's up dude, you should take some B12 or something because they're wrong. But we can tell you why you are wrong. It does. Well, I'll ask. I'll ask the, Oh, my God, did I send you? I don't think I sent you the link, but I posted it yesterday. Last night I posted, this morning a link to the piers Morgan interview, panel that he did with, with, Goddammit.

What was it? I just posted it, it had the, Weinstein guy, the guy that was, you know, handcuffed to his chair when they brought him into court. The other day. No different when that's Weinstein. Oh, we're thinking of one stain that I'm talking about. Why it had Weinstein. There you go, buddy. There you go. There's a link of the back channel. yes. The, ChatGPT gave me that link. Yes.

x.com, formerly known as Twitter, now officially allows the sharing of consensually produced adult content, including full nudity and sexual acts. The change in policy includes guidelines to ensure that such content is properly labeled and that safeguards are in place. Yeah, right. To protect users under 18. The move aligns with X's broader content policies, allowing allowing users to share a wide range of material with. I think you're looking up triple X sex.

Yeah. No x.com it says x.com, formerly known as Twitter. And I sent you a link which says for now of officially allowed on x I call bullshit bye bye. I I there's a link from whatever the website is the channel NewsAsia dot Tom. Oh yes. Channel NewsAsia that. Com that's a very reliable source of information. More reliable than I don't. It's it's way and way more way more reliable than the CSB that l-o-l. No no no, that's way that could be though. Well it's always telling the truth.

CSB will be on top of this. Can you post pornography? Can you post can you post your little, doodles with boobs on the x.com? No, that's the question. CSB it says you can, it says you can. It says you can. Okay, let me ask for more resources showing this. Fucksake. Did. And then that's the, the beautiful. I will just spit some things out. It's looking it's it's yes. It says again, I understand I don't you don't need to explain it. I just asked for more resources.

I guess I should have been more clear. It meant, like I want more lengths to. There's a UPI article. That's what. Universal press international. Yeah. Here it is. It allows you with proper labeling. This is June 4th. This is almost breaking news. It would have probably been on Grumpy Old bands if we had done the show in the past month. There's now porn allowed. We can get back to doing shows. Ryan. Porn is allowed on. That's we are finally able to continue the show. Teaching Gene something.

There's nothing better. The platform will still prohibit pornography cannot pull a graphic content that is a exploitative nonconsensual, or promotes objectification, non-consensual behaviors, or sexualization or harming of minors. but the applies to AI and animated content. Oh that's good. Then he can post it as long as it's consensual. As long as the a guy full nudity allowed. acts real. I mean, what you should be considering. It's x.com. I mean, you should allow X-rated content, right?

Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. Oh, I see where they. Okay. Yes. So it is allowed apparently. Yes. In the loose sense, because it's only shown to people that have paid for X and proven they're over 18. That makes sense. But the disinformation purveyor also sent me the actual link to the X policy. So thank you. This is the beauty of doing a live show is you get the resources or you could just, you know, Google and find your own link to that. No, it's way easier. Like I have people just provide yeah.

Here's the difference. You trust people. I don't. Hey, they're giving you good resources to look at. Who do you trust more? You just go to help.x.com. Somebody in porn do you to trust more the information coming from shit poster that world or from ChatGPT. That's the current question of they're equivalent. They're absolutely equivalent. You should trust neither. And as long as we are a thinking people for helping out, we did have a few people that sent in donations that was ready for last week.

We had donations. Then Gene fell asleep and we missed, being able to thank the folks that came in, including our buddy weenie. Wow. Why? Oh yeah. Came in with his monthly $10 and 80. Said he's all in on unrelenting. Darian Rondell came in with $5.65, and he says, I live that same Amazon story with computer parts. They suck. I try not to use them now. which I was trying the last show, you were talking about returning your laptop, and then it was like, oh, we're going to have a refurbished Dell.

Salable. 336 so update to that story since we didn't do a show last time, laptop up I did get I did get my refurbished laptop of the exact same model that arrived. Interestingly, exactly one day after I got credited back money for the refund and return of the old one. It was not the same one, however, because all the keys were functional on it I think. Yeah, you did mention that the last show I had, the show you talked about, it's so crazy.

It was a different person returning the exact same machine. Apparently. I just found the timing to be very interesting because the refurb didn't pop up until an hour or two after I had click the button to return the previous laptop, and the shipping date got moved around, literally until I returned my old laptop. I wonder how many people were returning at any given time. And one item that's on Amazon. Tons and tons. Maybe hundreds, which is, it's most interesting.

So usually those things just get thrown right back out. But I, I understand the higher grade stuff, why they don't I mean, I'm happy with the deal I got in the end because honestly, the fact that that laptop did have a couple of keys where the backlighting didn't work, save me 500 bucks because I was so much, I end up paying less than that for the refurb. Now, I didn't have the refurb with me on my trip, which was the whole point of buying this in the first place.

So in a sense, you know, I missed the main reason I wanted to buy it, but the price was so good afterwards for the refurb. assuming that everything work, which does that, I it was a good deal to get it. I mean, I got a laptop with a 4080 card, which, if you're a gamer, you know what that means. yeah. You can do a lot of AI, you can do a ton of AI, and it's the second best card you can currently get. And, you know, I got it for way under two grand, which is pretty impressive.

And the refurb stuff often, as long as it's being refurb by either the manufacturer or somebody you trust. And in this case, I don't know if I trust Amazon, but it would depend upon the I think they extend the return policy. They do. That's that's the the main reason where I don't mind getting a refurb from Amazon is they give you 90 days to return it. You know, often with the refurb stuff, they're giving you a longer warranty, then brand new stuff has just to convince you to buy the refurb.

Sometime you match a warranty for anything in probably 20 years. Well that does that makes no difference to me whatsoever. Well, that's because I did you ever work at a retail establishment where they wanted you to sell the cheese, sell the extended warranty? You got to sell the warranty, man. You're selling the audio receiver. Sell the warranty, man. Oh, you're selling the tape. That guy to sell the warranty.

Speakers. Warranty. You got to sell the Domino's Pizza back then you got warranties on your Domino's Pizza. Until I was selling pizza back then that not. But at the same time you were selling receivers. So when I was selling the receivers, trying to sell the extra cheese, you were selling pizzas with extra, extra cheese. Yeah, I was, I definitely was. Would you like expertise that that was the, terminology at Circuit City.

So if you sold something, it wasn't uncommon for somebody to come up to you, like, if just, you know, buddies just sold a computer, like, did you get the cheese? did you get because you got paid big on the cheese, man? You got like mere 2%, if you were lucky, on the item, but you got like 25% on the cheese was there. You sold that $100 extended warranty. You were like, yeah, baby, mom got to get the cheese real. then the Kevin cipher coming in with his $5 monthly.

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It is the most underrated podcast on the internet according to See Brooklyn 112. Yeah, it is where you can talk directly to people on the shit poster world throughout the show, where CSB will come in with live donations. I mean, hey, we are lit. So if you're on a podcasting 2.0 app right now, you can type a little message in and send some satoshis and it'll go pupu. And then we'll talk about what you said. Now, speaking of Satoshis. So yes, you know, lightning journey. Oh my God.

So sucks. Hi everybody. We're going to talk about Lee jeans Lightning Journeys with voltage and the rest of the universe. Yeah. So I, I tried everything I could to get my money off of voltage, which was, the host that I used for lightning. It was a very exciting. Nothing. Nothing freaking worked. I even even recruited there. And I'm like, dude, if you can manage to pull something off there and you went to CSB for. So that's how bad it was.

I did go to CSB first because I kind of trust them more than you, but well, yeah, other than that, other than that, and, you know, we tried a bunch of stuff. Nothing worked. And, one of the suggestions that that CSB had after I really did it was, well, if you can contact and support, I have some. Finally support replied back and they discovered that I was running and they no longer supported version of their platform, but they were still charging me money for it.

Yeah, this is why when I sign up my buddy and there's a couple of restaurants that he has to a site like Squarespace, the reason is I never want to have to update the software ever again. Yeah, that's why you're paying. Well, no, it's their platform. Like they have an option. They had a a package that you could pick that I had, which worked perfectly fine until they stopped selling it back in March.

And so I never got moved off this package, except that they no longer support it and they no longer. So basically they shut my account down, but kept charging me money for your convenience, for my convenience. And so he said, oh, well, all you gotta do is just select one of the new packages. Okay, those are more expensive, but okay, I'm just trying to get money off of here.

So I did that and magically, lo and behold, everything's synchronized and and, all of a sudden it shut down all the accounts that were pending, and I had money in there, and I was like, yeah, it worked. And I replied to port, but I said, but hang on, let me just make sure I can actually pull money out of here before we close the ticket and see that was forethought right there, because what were the things that instantly happened?

Is it it took all my money and it split it up into several new channels. Yeah, it was open magically opened. It was playing channel whac-a-mole. Yeah. And I'm like, Darren, are you fucking with this? Because I gave you access and Darren's like, nope, I wish I was, but now I would have if I would have thought of it. What the hell? What? Inside. Okay, I'll just go ahead and close these channels and boom. Like, I close to six more channels open up and it's using my money. Some like out to.

And for people that don't know the way it works is it takes money out of your account and then uses that to open up a channel. Like you don't technically lose your money, but it's held in escrow so you can't access it. He can't take it out while the channels open. So finally, after this whac-a-mole thing, I just kept closing channels and kept opening channels. I contacted support, said what the hell? And they said, oh well, at some point, like maybe in April or something, you selected that.

You know what? They have auto open channels. Well a that's not a fucking option currently. B it was not an option back when I was in my previous account, for sure. And there's no way to turn it off except through support. So he turned it off and it stopped trying to open up new channels. However, the state that it left things in was I had six pending channels. Now that used up all my money and they're still pending a week later. And now the support guy doesn't even know why. Support guy.

His latest message to me was like, hey, we just pushed out a new update. Maybe try installing that and see what happens. That always works. Well. I mean, I'm like, that's have you tried turning it off and on? Well, yeah, I'm seeing more is one of my in my head right now. One of my favorite scenes, favorite bits from family Guy. I'm sure you've seen it a thousand times. where Stewie wants his money from Brian. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking Gene's going to do to the people over at voltage.

Like, I want my money. I want my money. well. But money. Well, that's wrong, Gene. I'm going to do that. Justin's getting really sick of this whole issue. Which, again, remember the whole problem I had originally was I had one stuck channel. Yes, that that was stuck in pending and it wouldn't give me my money back then you were able to get that taken care of. Is a thousand new channels open? Yeah, I had switched. It's like, oh well, you don't like Death by One Life, how about a thousand lives?

So I'm thinking I did pull a chunk of money out. I got about half my money. So now it's probably about to go up though, and, it's going to crash. Do you see who's headlining the big Bitcoin conference in Nashville July 25th to the 27th? Nobody I know Donald J. Trump.

Oh yeah. Yeah. He's headlining. That just means the Trump presidency is going to take Bitcoin to the moon. Yeah. So when he loses it's going to be Bitcoin to the basement. Could be one or the other. It's still about 10,000 below where it was. So it's sad I should have grabbed money out when I hit that high. But you never do. And this is why I brought up musk before you so rudely interrupted me. Because I was going to mention that even since, you know, I think that I bought some Tesla.

Yeah, bought some Tesla. And, it went up like 33% in two weeks. So no, hell no. None, none none none. And then. And then, no, I'm holding this shit, man. This is better than Bitcoin. What do you think. Well you know did you buy the Tesla stock with Bitcoin. Because that that would have been even better. No no because I can't access my Bitcoin because it's all stuck. It's no I bought it for real money. And and then I guarantee you someone's listening to this, sucker.

You're calling fiat real money. You're an idiot. No. How many? How many? Share that. I want to ask how many shares? But what was the, the share at? What is Tesla sell? It was just under 200. It's a 250 right now, but it got as high as 270. Nice. And I think it's going to rebalance and keep going up. I mean slowly I mean, had I bought Tesla like a year ago, I would have been up like 300%. That would have been better. yeah, that would have been better.

But no, I was putting money into bitcoin said idiot, which went up. I mean, with to be fair, I mean over the last year Bitcoin is low, has done that much. I mean yeah it's it went down a lot as you remember from about four years ago. Oh yeah. What it cratered to what 4000 or so. It's low ever quite that low. That would do what I mean it did because that was it. Right. And when that happened before crash happened, somebody seemed broken. He knows all the Bitcoin stuff. It went down.

That was the point where I was like, hey, you know, hey, sweetie, we have enough. I mean, I mean, it wouldn't have been easy. You know, it wasn't it's not like I've got the money sitting in a bag somewhere, but I'm like, hey, should we buy a Bitcoin? And she's like, yeah. And I didn't. That was when I was at like 4000. And then when it was bought one it was up to like 60. It's like well shit. Yeah that would have been better to have I had a, I had a buddy that they sent him.

Yeah. He's not a friend but just somebody that I talk to maybe every few months. what do you call those people? acquaintances. Yeah. Acquaintances. Yeah. Or assholes. And I've known them forever. I've known him for, like, 35 years. But, anyways, so he rings me up, and he's like, hey, where do you buy Bitcoin? And he's asking me like, I'm the fucking expert, aren't you? I'm, Yeah, exactly. Yeah. They don't even sell it. You have to put it in there after you buy it somewhere else.

anyway, I'm at a drop of the voltage thing at this point with all these missing channels, I just get half my money out. I'm at this. I basically told the sport, dude, I'm like, okay, just FYI, feedback. I'm going to shut down the account this month. So if I can't get my money out, I can't get my money out. It's just going to disappear into the ether because no one's going to get it. But it's, not a good advertisement for them. If you can't get your money out after you've put it in.

But oh, and they're charging a lot of money every month, like 20, 25 bucks a month, like every month for us. Yeah. For the service that they offer. Yeah. This was the crash I'm talking about was according to, CoinDesk here through ChatGPT was March of 2020. So I mean, really that was only, you know, four and a half years ago, not even, but right about four and a half, 4000. Really? Yeah. It went to a low of 38, 67 bucks. Yeah. I don't remember that. I'm really so I kick myself because.

But at that point I was like, okay, if I put, you know, 4000, you know, we're a real stretch. And that was the difference here. Yeah, it's tempting, but man, this Cardano stuff that's going to go to the moon. I'm still waiting on that one. Still waiting on that one sucker. Neither one is really outperform I mean Bitcoin has lately but it's if you know how to play the game right.

For the newer coins, you know the coins the CSB likes to call them if you can get in on one when they're like a nickel or a dime and they go up to two bucks and you sell, well, that's, you know, ten times the money you had. Yeah, that's fine enough suckers that are willing to buy them with two bucks. But the bitcoin is actually stable enough

to where it's not usually going to have that. You know, you're not going to make ten times your money. And you know six months now it's basically gambling. We understand I like how you call it stable when it's literally changed $200 today. Well, but it's within a range. I mean, when's the last time it was, you know, it didn't crash back down like you said. You didn't even remember that it was down to about $4,000. And that was only four years ago. Yeah.

So it's been relatively stable over the last. But you know, it's it's got its ups and downs, but it hasn't gone to the really far downs. And a lot of my friends I think bought it like 5 to 7000 and then sold it like 15 to 20,000 because that's also human nature, which is why I made a lot of money. This is great. Yeah. I can't expect anything more from it. I was watching did you watch it? Oh, you had to. I mean, you were in that chance that, you know, that same kind of circle.

Do you watch Big Nation back in the day? Yeah, yeah, of course it's back. Well, I don't know if it's like back full time, but they did a Dig Nation with the same two guys. Yeah. Alex and and the dark tipper Kevin Rose Kevin Rowe. Yeah. Cool. Kevin who when they started doing that show was basically a washed up ex, tech TV guy. Yeah. Who was doing a little bit of side projects, a little bit of programing. Well, they were both tech TV guys.

They were on the screen singers together who now is worth like $100 million. Yeah. And the other guy's stole not worth a whole lot. No. And he was laughing about that. He's done other things. but he also had when one of these things ended up crashing on him, he's like, yeah, I had like three and a half bitcoin. Yeah. And he's like but there was at the time it was okay 500 bucks. Whatever it was, it was like now he's like I'd like to have that money. Well and that's it.

I mean okay so I'm talking about I'm just going to shut down my fucking count because 25 bucks a month keep it open. Right. So I'm going to lose some bitcoin that. Yeah. Watch Bitcoin go up ten times and I'm going to be son of a bitch. How do I get back I shut down my challenge with Bitcoin. Yeah what a moron. Who does that. Yeah I'm still shutting it down. The fuck it. But that's why they were talking about doing the thing. You know, doing the mining back in the day.

Yeah Alex Albrecht was talking about how he would mine one of the shit coins because there was an exchange which let you turn that into Bitcoin. I remember that, yeah. It was all sorts of, crazy Wild West stuff back then, but it was such a fun show to watch one because they were always drinking. Yeah, yeah. The they were. And that's where I actually stole that idea. And I used that for my first ever podcast, which I love.

And, I'll say 2007 to 2009 timeframe, which was a, fairly early as far as podcasts go. But, and we did a big podcast. I mean, I'd have anywhere from 3 to 6 people on there back that all in the room. Were you? Yeah. It was harder to do this in a, in a remote manner at that point. No, it was all remote.

You were a technological genius. I was a tech whiz. Exactly. back in the day. And, yeah, it was a podcast called sect. This is interesting because I did a podcast back around the same time with my buddy in California called Alta. This, who apparently that was a common name. Yes. There was there was somebody I don't remember why, but there was something else. And this was like, oh, well, like you'd have control, alt delete, this was alt dash this.

Yeah. And we covered tech and we basically were audio only because we didn't, you know, live in the same place and the bandwidth wasn't quite there yet. No it was, it was basically Skype. Yeah. Well that's exactly what we used was Skype. And we talked about tech and drank. And I still have the audio. Well of course, because why would I throw any of it away? Well, I not only that, I still have the server I'm paying for. Well see, that's not a surprise.

And that's like 18 years later, Gene's like, I signed up for a subscription to something. I don't know how to cancel it. It's in Germany. I don't know what. I have no idea how to cancel this service. I just pay for it. Every month. He's like, I cancel my credit cards. They find the new one stuff I don't. I don't know what's going, what's PayPal. It's tied to my PayPal, so I can't cancel the fucking thing.

Long as you have money in the PayPal account, I know the oh yeah, and I mean and my domain is registered through them, so I really can't cancel it. I look, yeah, you don't want to yeah. You don't want to drop that. No. But that was that was the beauty of the day maps thing. It's a it was a popular name back in the day. Is everything was called this. And we always had, you know, we. Okay. We opened up a, you know, I was usually drinking a whiskey. Yeah. For the show.

And, episode 21, we decided to do shots. Yeah. And I have the audio. I mean, I am a highly trained professional, even stone drunk. Because I remember after that I finished the episode, I was living in their townhouse at the time and I just went downstairs and like fell on the couch and it was, it was not a pretty night from there on out. It was, there was some vomiting going up. Oh that's like good. But I think we had like 21 drinks or shots.

I mean it was it was way more than you should have had in the hour and a half or two hours. We had our show where we started off, but everybody talking about what they're drinking. Right. That was that was the indignation thing. What? Yeah. Yeah, it was totally. And that was, absolutely a rip off of of the nation. And, I like the idea, but it was a, it was interesting because it was a podcast of all security professionals who are big drinkers, obviously.

well, and and well, I don't know about big drinkers, but they're definitely people that normally would not be mentioning the fact that they're right. So yeah, they were. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like I had a buddy that was from the NSA there. I had, a couple guys from Microsoft Security. I had a pretty good variety of people that were at various clearance levels. And, the first thing we do, of course, is drink. Of course. Yeah, yeah. so I it was fun. It was a fun deal.

did it for about a year and a half. I can't remember how many episodes. Probably, like, I want to say probably about 55, 60 episodes somewhere around there. It's very impressive. Certainly didn't get to 100. But my rule for the podcast is the same as it's my rule on everything that has other people involved in co-hosting, which is fuck them all. I will do this as long as you keep showing you. That's at the low bar.

It's a it's a low bar, but amazingly, it's a bar that many people have met by not showing up any longer. True. It's just collapses. Yes. Yeah. And and so my deal was always like three strikes. So you can not show up. Well if you tell me you're not going to show up, that's fine. But if you can not show up and not tell me once and I'll be pissed and I'll tell you about it, and then, you know, we'll be back to doing the thing you do the second time.

I'm gonna warn you that one more time and the show ends, and you do it the third time, and I'm no longer going to start showing up. I mean, the show will be over.

You do realize the irony in the, in the wake of last week? I do, I totally realize the irony, but it's, But yeah, it's like like if if that happens with some regularity, then it's probably time to move on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No doubt. Right. Shit happens. Everybody understands that. It's like you have any kind of variety of illnesses that keep you away from the podcast for three weeks, then, you know, we're done. That happens. Yeah. That happens. But that was so busy.

I mean, these guys doing the thing again, it's like that felt like old time. I mean, they were there. Any of them gained weight? Alex. Yeah. Adam Lee, Kevin Rose looks like he's buff. Well, Kevin Rose is fucking, you know, doing Muay Thai with the billionaires these days. Yeah, they're all into that shit. Like all these guys that have way more money than they can spend on things. You got to try to extend your life by all.

Yeah, they're they're all into doing very hard core bodies, sports, things like, he was rocking to. He was talking about his doing his rocking. So you take your heavy pack and you start doing your climbs up the hills. Jesus. In a. Yeah, I know. Well because now for like you, you're like, but I've got a sushi guy coming, so I can't really go out rocking. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I'd like to, but no, I think I have a rookie simulator. Hang on, let me check. Three plus two. The same thing.

Are you pay somebody to go out looking for you. That is. Yeah. It's called a Sherpa. The I liked it. I'm sure somebody else came up with the gig and came up with the thing. I'm sure it was a, a fraternity kind of thing, but when they did on Digg Nation, the Edwards 40 hands, I was hooked on the the concept where they just duct taped two 40 ounce beers to their hands. Yeah, for the episode, and they had to download them. That was kind of ridiculous. Yeah, but it was fun.

I mean, that was when this was like brand new, cause I was trying to say, yeah, how about when I would, I would, I was watching it on my TV. I don't early 2000s of the grit right now I it must have been hooking. I must have had to hook up the laptop to the TV to watch it at the time, because there was no Roku, there was no easy way to get the internet content there. And I was thinking, I'm like, this wasn't even on YouTube. This was their whole that was revision three.

They had their own website where you have to go watch it. And I'm like, wow, things have changed. And it's so easy for people to do, oh God. Yeah. What they were doing is revision three, which I think Kevin was a part owner of. and then they sold that, and then he ended up starting, Digg. Right. He wants it back. That's how this new one started. He's like, they went to look at digging. It was down. And he's just like, of course guys just sell it to me. I'll. I'll kick Reddit's ass. Come on.

I mean, big pipe dream there, but, it's like, if nobody's using that, you may as well sell it back to the guy who started at. Well, you know, it's it's what's what's his face said recently, he's the guy who started Twitter. Dorsey. Dorsey. There's an article. I only read the headline.

So I don't know what the actual content of the article is, but the headline was, you know, I, I learned an awful lot of mistakes from Twitter, including giving control to a board of directors that had very different ideas about freedom of speech to me. And that's why I started this new website. It's like, blue skies. Yeah, or something like that. And then we literally did the exact same thing. You repeat it, I'm like, moron. Why, why, why would you do that?

Why would you make a another copy of your first company and also make it anti-free speech? Well, it it also showed you the problem is that all of these things are nearly identical. When it comes down to it, the open source stuff that people are running for the metaverse, on the outside, most normal users will just be like, oh, I get it. It's the same thing. It's nothing unique, it's nothing groundbreaking. It's oh, said little messages and pictures and maybe audio and video.

Yeah. And I've got an account. blue sky run over, but. Oh, were you invited? You get a special invite from, Did you work with them to try to get them up and running? I did not, Dorsey. No, but I bitched about being kicked off of. That's long enough, I guess that I get an invite. They don't come over here. but, like, I've been on there maybe twice. I mean, there's no point. There's no point of them. Me on there because. Elon Musk is, you know, got porn on X now, so what the hell.

What do I going to leave? Well, the where's the checkbox to turn on porn because I don't seem to be getting any in my inbox. My stream contains no porn. What's up? It's just politics. What's up with that? It's a different kind of porn, I tell you. yeah, I guess just you just start typing weird things into the search box.

Maybe it'll start popping up for you. It's. It's weird because, it definitely. Oh. There's an alarm going on, I hear it. Yeah, it's it's. I need to figure out how to turn that off. She's got a fire thing going out of the house. Like, That's fine. It's not a fire. It's my incoming messages. Somebody decided to bring me into a fucking, hell thread. It's a what do you call those things, like a mass thread or a text message? Yeah, a multi person thing I cannot stand.

It's a pet peeve when people do that. If you want to text me, do it one on one. If you want to do a group text, ask me first and say, hey, I'd like to invite you to a group text for these people. No, that's not what happens. It's all a sudden, out of the blue, you get a a thing that pops up. You notice that there's like 18 people in the text message, and then you get like multiple messages within one minute of people saying, oh, hey everybody, what's going on here?

I did I miss anything, right? Right. Hey, hey, hey, what's going on? I you don't ask to be a part of this. Yeah. Oh, my God, it's okay. Now, I think I can put the the phone into focus. Real focus until this evening and do not disturb me. Yeah. Stop disturbing Jean. It's, It's. He's got a big rig to drive from Beaumont to Austin. I already did that. Oh, sorry. Okay. That one done again. That one then. Yeah. So I got I got 21 trucks in my, in my garage in the game.

Now, I'm a tycoon, and you are so lucky you don't have to pay for truck. You do. You do have to pay per truck. Oh. the, Okay. Yes, of course you have to buy the trucks. But virtual money. Okay. It's it's virtual money that you made by by driving the trucks yourself. Yeah, yeah, but the truck prices are actually fairly accurate to real world. I think they're fully licensed cuz they're, you know, they literally look exactly both inside and out, like the that generation of truck does in real life.

I think you need to build. You get the guy from YouTube, get the hydraulics so you can just jump up into a big rig. And when you're driving, feel like you're on top of the world. Well, it's funny you say that because I do have a hydraulic chair here. Just the chair you need, like the whole thing. with which whole thing? Like the whole cage. Like you would make. Oh, what? Airplane simulator? Yeah, it's a lot more useful for airplane simulator spaceships.

Intuitive because there's actual forces involved. When you're driving a truck, the only thing you're doing is bouncing up on them. That if you're taking a turn at 80, you're not taking in internally. What if you were having fun? No, no. The actual teeth out. If you could get the, guy to build you something that has jackknife mode, it'll just throw you over on your side. believe me, that's in the game. There's plenty of jackknife mode involved if you don't pay attention.

Yeah, but just imagine if you physically were, like, thrown off the chair because you jackknife the truck. Yeah, they should have, like, no airbag mode to just slam your head into your desk, tune into your keyboard, just for funsies. We'll see you after you left to somehow automate that. See what? Yeah. You put a little, you know, you put one of those, they put a little machines behind your head that'll just force your head down and slamming into the keyboard. I think that's awesome.

you think it's a good product idea? I think some people build a machine into. And of course, it's a linear motor, but, repurpose that into something that that hooks up to your computer chair, and it's aimed at your head. And then when the game, has a a harsh crash in it, it'll just force your head forward and down into your keyboard. Right. You can actually just have, like, a little panel or something in front of you too, that comes forward as this pushes you forward.

So that way you wouldn't have to go all the way to the desk and it would still just like, smash into your head like you were in a bad wreck. Yeah, but you have to recreate in the wreck. You don't go forward you, because you still have a seatbelt on. So it's your head goes in an arc in a downward direction into the steering wheel. Because remember, the steering wheel is not at your head level, but that's what your head hits. You'd have to get seatbelts for your simulation.

Yes, you should be belted into your computer chair at all times. Yes, the only fair way to go. And only thing, the only safe way. Well, the beauty of this game is it's it's fairly low. cortisol like. Well, yeah, it's. You can barely realize it's so. In fact, it's so relaxing that occasionally I'll start falling asleep.

This was one of the reasons why, even back in the day, when it was a Thrustmaster wheel and pedals, along with the papyrus, was the software company making the NASCAR software. Oh, I remember them. Yeah, I think there's sorry, I don't think it was somewhat maddening.

I mean, sure, you could go through and kind of turn it into kiddy mode, but if you were running this as a full simulation, taking a race car out on the track, you realize very quickly why these drivers get paid the big bucks, and that is to go as fast as they can. One blip short of wrecking the car every lap. And you don't know where that is and you don't have the force feedback. Even with the force feedback. We are now in a full simulation you get a little better.

Yeah. It was the players design group was the company. But it was a very hard game to play. And it's like it became very quickly apparent by by sheer online in 95. what if they still make racing games? Are they still the ones that are part of the, the NASCAR Sims? but it was hard enough to where it was like this became less fun because it wasn't like you were playing a game. You realized this was like the early parts of the simulators where this was trying to be real.

Like the playing sim, it's fun to get in a plane and kind of fly around. Now owned by universal. Interesting. Yeah, universal owns everything. I think they own NASCAR. They should. They know, I think I think they do because they've got NASCAR shit like they have the license. The. Yeah, the, intellectual property. NASCAR is going through some interesting times because there is a lot of fighting between the teams and the sanctioning body in regards to their charters.

They call them, which is basically your what do you think of Danica Patrick as a driver or as a woman or as, as a pinup, as a pin up? I mean, I, I wouldn't put her up as a ten, but, I mean, she gains points for being a badass driver, like, she's early 20s. Not today. I mean, she well, she was the go daddy girl back. If we talked about formation back in the day, that's why I've remembered her. Yeah. You know, very cute. I mean, that is, you know, not that she was like a tomboy.

She's always a tomboy looking chick. McEwen. but so many people bitched about how she's got awful. And the only reason that she's in there is because she looks cute, and then she has no business racing with professionals. I mean, there's a lot of negative shit coming down, and I. I don't know if this was genuine examples of sexism or just people were correct. I certainly didn't mind her racing, regardless of how good of a driver she was, because I didn't watch the races. I just looked at her.

Did they take off like I just put the posters? And that was so much, I think she had a decent amount of talent. I mean, when you can run the, you know, she's a podcaster now. Well, not only is she a podcaster, but she works for, NBC. So she does some of the races, and, it's a pretty good broadcaster. No one knows her for that, but. But she does as much as possible. People know her podcast, right? I mean, national, national television during the races. Nobody knows her podcast.

You know, national television almost across the board has lower viewership than a mediocre YouTube channel. And a lot of them. Yeah. Although the NASCAR race in Chicago got 3.7 million viewers, allegedly. Oh my God, 3.7 million. That is literally an average teenager playing a video game. It is still not quite that pretty much. I mean, if your average teenager is an average female teenager playing a video game, and by average you mean like 18 bucks, and like, not even not even in a bikini. Wow.

The just female doesn't doesn't even matter. The bar is that low. It's still it's a sports that low because an average teenager on TikTok has 10 to 20 million, not 3 billion. Yeah, but that's who's watching live at that given point. So it's a little different. No I don't know how many people watch replays or anything like that. Yeah. No I sticks around for a month for as long as TikTok sticks around. Yeah. But nobody watches old ones. No, you never know.

You just keep going to your old man. You just keep the. Yeah, swipe swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe. while it's learning all about your darkest secrets, what do you like? Oh, you like watching NASCAR is but driven by bad female drivers thing. Okay. Yeah. What? Like the driver that I liked out of the infinity series, which is the triple A NASCAR. Hailie Deegan just lost her ride. And there's a lot that kind of seems like, well, the one female driver.

It was a new team. Although I like Dale Jr. Dale Earnhardt Jr was talking about it isn't he. It's their third coming up there. The a third what they ultimate I don't know. There are no the third I don't think there is a third. No I don't think he has I think he has all daughters. Really. Oh that sucks. But a you know, like, what crappy way to reproduce. I know, especially because it's like what you daddy was the name. Yeah. You want to bring them in. It's.

What if Hank Williams only had daughters? I know that we had a real problem. We would have been missing out with. Not have Hank the third man who was some of the greatest music around. But I actually do like Danica's part. Yeah. So I think it's pretty good. What did you talk about? it's a very Joe Rogan Kind of podcast. She had a lot of people, that was like, would you say it's like a Rogan copy? They're like, well, you could sit and talk to people.

Yeah. It would like she brings the same kind of people on. She brings a lot of well, she brings in people from racing like Rogan does for you know MMI right. Or comedy. But then she also brings in people that would be considered kooks by a lot of people that talk about. So we have a reality or, you know, some weird nootropics and things that a lot of people don't believe in, just, you know, moon landing. I think she had an episode. so she, definitely very, anti-vax people.

So she does have a variety of things on. So I kind of, I think she's better at podcasting than, the other chick. What's her name? they used to be on Fox. That other chick, Megan. Kelly. Yeah. She's not very good at podcasting. I think she's better at podcasting now. Yeah. Megan Kelly's just real bros. Those epic face. Or just as a person, interpersonal person, I would say. Yeah, she's she's one of those bitter feminists. She's a lawyer.

I mean, so you get to know there plenty of lawyers that aren't better feminists, but she actually is a bitter feminist. She's one of those chicks that resented the fact that she's hot looking and like, damn, I'm making more money and getting utilized her looks while at the same time resenting the fact that she wouldn't be taken seriously without her looking the way she did. It's like, dude, you're the one acting this way. You're the one choosing to use your sexuality.

You're the one that was spinning around and twirling for for, Roger Stone. You, like, use it if you got it. But that's the problem is that for some of them, like, plenty of them follow that adage. They use it since they got it. But for some of them, they'll use it. It's not like they're not going to use it. They still use it. But then they'll resent all men because it works. Yes. Yeah. You're not. She's one of them as a professional. Exactly. And she is one of those.

She's like, hey, I've got brains. It's not just the long legs. It's like, yeah, but you see, if you just go by brains, you're very average as a hot chick with brains. Now you're more way more interesting that way. So I've never been a big fan of hers. I didn't think she was all I had looking to begin with. And, I didn't really like. She wasn't, I didn't think, ever particularly good at that. Let me. I think she was, mostly just following a script. Yeah, she's a prompter. Either. I think. Yeah.

She's no Martha MacCallum. Back in the day. Stone, Joe Rogan. But I was going by looks. You're going back to the first. Yeah. I'm I'm. Yeah, yeah. She's like Joe Rogan man I watch just to see his abs. Limber has his abs up. And this is a problem for your jeans. Like I wish Joe would just do the show shirtless. It's the way podcasting was meant to be. I mean, you're not shirtless right now. I am, but, I mean, it's just because I need to hear it as much.

Unencumbered. Yeah, exactly. That was one of the parts indignation was, Alex said that he sleeps nude in his always sleeps, and the reaction from Kevin Rose was like, how did I not know this? And he's just like, why would you know this? there are certain things people just don't need to know. Yeah, yeah. Like, most people actually are nude. Yeah. While on the podcast. That's that's listening to podcasts. Anyone listening. Right.

If you are currently either doing a podcast or listening to a podcast, there is a 98 point chance you are totally nude directly under your clothes at least. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, that's obviously yeah. I mean, where else would you be nude? it's a, Well, you could be, I guess, doing a podcast from bed. Maybe somebody's got a setup. teeth. Now, that would be way more fun. Yeah, I mean, they're hard. We did a talk show from from there.

Bill Bender. Who did that? A talk show like a long, long like a TV show where that somebody did from their bed. I don't recall this. That's a great idea. I mean, you'd probably get sexual harassment lawsuits if you had guests in the studio, but, But come on, man, it was obviously a comedic thing, but it was an actual thing. can you imagine the, the PR can you imagine the commercials like, hey, hop into bed with Jean tonight at 11? I'll that's Ellen right there.

anybody in the room want to hop into bed with Jean? They're like, do. And when I type in a search for talk show done in bed, the completely wrong results show up. This was the completely wrong 11 sex podcast to make you better in bed. Yeah. You don't want one? Let's see. You know, that's, And it was a talk show, not a podcast. You're saying it was a talk show? It was like it was.

It may have been a, a short lived one, but I could have sworn that somebody did a, like, essentially a talk show on the Giant bed where all the guests would get on top of the bed for their interviews on the show. love the seat. But I'll tell you what ChatGPT said right after I tell you. What did your guru says? Which is like, Jeebus, Jim, you are so full of shit. This is the first time I've heard you be so fucking dumb. I listen to Megan's pod every weekday and enjoy her show to each his own.

You said that our buddy Deji go right here. Bam! You're bam. Did you? Guru? You're now banned from the show. You shall never listen to us again and never reply to any comments that we put up there. Congratulations, Jill. Listen to Megan Kelly instead. If you would like to, put in a, a request to get your access back that goes through CSB at, singularity Dot express. now, according to chat, GPT, several talk show hosts have famously broadcast from their beds. The first was Johnny Carson in 1973.

Not the one I was thinking of. Okay, well, he did it after a surgery. Larry King did a show from bed after heart surgery in 1947. Yeah. And, David Letterman hosted the segment from his bed during his tenure. This was done as part of a commercial that was a female. It was a female doing the show. Now, while ChatGPT doesn't know about it, was it? You might be living in a different dimension. You think it's possible? It could have been.

You're like making Kelly do a show from bed that I'm all live. how about making that? Were that luxury for me? Wear that fancy outfit. Oh, yeah. Then were like, that. Just brought ratings to the moon. okay. Ellen DeGeneres did one from a hospital bed. Not what I was like. Yeah, a little different. That's a little more depressing. you know, you're thinking, like, all sexy, and then all of a sudden it's like, dude, wait, some of these lighting code blue. Yeah. Different vibe.

Yeah. Oh, man. It's I I've seen it. It's not a show I watched with any regularity, but I've seen clips of it. It sounds like more of a YouTube slash podcast kind of thing. Like it was definitely a TV thing. I can see it as a concept that would work, which I'm surprised it's not running rampant at this point, because you talk about the amount of guys that will watch a female gamer on Twitch.

I guarantee you, hot chick in a bed in lingerie doing the interviewing, people are like, okay, she's not going to do well. And this was not in lingerie. I mean, they were like fully clothed people, but they were sitting in bed and the whole thing was about double entendre, right? So it was it was kind of like, you know, are you going to join me in my bed? you know, it was all that was that couch show.

Yeah, but without like, they're just wearing normal clothes without any kind of visual double entendre. Well, that's no fun. we can improve the show concept, Jane. We can put this on the air. We could become rich. We got there. Yeah. What do you mean? Have lower viewership than TikTok, right? Why would you put anything on the air? Because I think we could sell this. I mean, CBS is in such bad shape right now. I think we might be able to get this on the networks by the fall.

I think Musk can probably buy in network without noticing anything to his net worth. Yeah, I wonder why he hasn't. I mean, you got although, to be fair, I think you influence more people on Twitter than you do on anything else, which is very interesting because all of the leftists who said the conservatives were crazy for claiming they were being shut down, right, are now going to be the one screaming that Elon shutting them down or they haven't been for a while.

So it's like, well, wait, I thought you didn't think this was happening at all. I mean, so why would it be happening now? Well, we weren't doing it, but he is. Well, all the stuff that's come out since about, the involvement of the US government is the bigger issue. I mean, I don't care what a private company wants to or doesn't want to have on their platform. What agree. But you are being contacted by the highest levels of governmental agencies. Yeah. When they have an office in your building

and they have the ability to silence somebody's shadow, ban them, or whatever else. Yeah. When when the government has access tools to moderate access to moderation tools, that's a problem. When you have crossed that line, that's no longer a free business. Well, it's it because the the whole point of free speech is that it's free from government interference. Right? And it's you're free to associate with whoever you want. It's listen to whoever you want without government interference. Correct.

Well, when the government is sitting there at the controls of moderation on these platforms, that's not free speech. That is truly censorship. Yeah. Unlike if Gene pops up and starts his own instance on the metaverse or a bulletin board and starts blocking people, that's not government. That's not government interference. No. And Adams always said, like, if you don't like something, you can block them. Don't send them an email message to the admin saying block them for the whole platform.

People would have to have personal responsibility, though. That's asking a lot, Jim. Well, I think people just are tired of clicking on black, black, black, black, black. Yeah, because it's more like, well, who should I let through? It should be good. It's like the things with the phones, the phones that don't have the ability to say only ring. If somebody is in my contact list, I don't. Some of them do now.

It's annoying though, I will say, because I've missed so many phone calls a result of that, right? Because you're like, well, you're not on my list yet. Yeah. It's just like, let me add you and so I can hear your calls. But if you don't, then it's like scam. Scam, spam, spam, everything all day long. Yeah. It's going to get really bad going up to the election. Yeah, probably.

And the, you know, political phone calls are excluded from the spam was of course, that's the first thing they do when making laws like we can do it right. Yeah. Well we can't let those companies do it but we could do it. And when I know we're not going to block ourselves. What do you mean. That's stupid. And half of this stuff if not more. My guess comes from outside of the country. So I love when there are laws against things for like what? You can't.

If you're a business, you can't call a home after 9 p.m. of the fucking guys in Nigeria, do you think they really care what your laws are? Right? Right? Yeah. Like, no. And then if you do it, figure out how are you going to, enforce this law? we never think that far down the line. Well, when it come down to and I don't know, maybe your experience is different than mine, but lately and by lately, I mean the last 3 or 4 years, certainly since Covid, but maybe even before that.

Nobody picks up their phone. Oh, no. No, anybody. And I've had this happen even recently, but I probably try it out every few months. I mean, I don't try it, but I attempt to say, oh, you know, I've been meaning to call this person back because they left me a message. Let me just call him nobody ever picks up the phone ringing. Even if you're in their contact message, you have to first send the text message says, hey, this is such and such. I was thinking of calling you back.

How about we do it tomorrow at 3 p.m., right? Are you available for me to call you back and all? Then. Then you got to wait for them to reply back and say, yeah, that works or that doesn't work. And only then will they bother picking up your call and on top of it. So not only do most people don't bother picking up the call, most people have a full voice mailbox that nobody ever bothers clearing out anymore. Right? And so you, your ring ring ring ring ring. Okay. You go to voice mail.

Oh, we're sorry, this user's mail box is full. Goodbye. That's infuriating. That's it. It's like, okay, you. And then there is always the same gene. It's always the good you texting? Yeah. Yeah. Everybody. Well, yeah. Well, why don't you text me like, because I called. That's what I do. Yeah, exactly. It's. You want to. I don't want to type. I don't want to type something. And then here's the other thou getting getting all these grapes off. Here's the other pet peeve.

I don't know if you've got any people like this. I've got a few, in both. I've had them clients and and friends, a few folks that can't be bothered to type something in text, but nor do they pick up the phone and call you. Instead they they record an audio message on their phone and then text you the audio message. So this is kind of like voicemail, right? Except it's being forwarded to you in text instead of sitting on your voicemail platform. Right.

So you get a little chime and it's like, oh, let's see what John wants. Okay, John wants me to spend an unknown amount of time playing back an audio message that I have no idea what it's about. The best is when you pick up the phone and you surprise somebody and they're like, oh, I just wanted to leave you a message. Yeah, well, I haven't had that happen for a long time because people just don't call. They they just send voice recordings or they send text messages or they send a zoom invite.

So the only time I'm talking to somebody is because they sent me a zoom invite. And do those ever work? Do you actually ever talk? Yeah, yeah, I like zoom. Zoom works fine. So you do that then people and then also just show up. And. Get me.