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116: Pirate Spaceship

May 17, 20241 hr 58 minEp. 116
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ChatGPT says: “Darren and Gene delve into the evolution and challenges of podcasting, comparing it to the rise and pitfalls of YouTube channels. They discuss the stagnation in the number of active podcasts, the commitment required to maintain a show, and the misconception that podcasting is an easy path to fame and fortune. They also …

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Introduction and Podcasting Overview

Oh boy. Yeah. Do you? Why? Howdy, Gene. Not the good old boys. No. It's unrelenting. Episode 116. I'm Neil. He's gene. And, in my best Matt Walsh impression. What is a podcast? Isn't that a good question? It's a lot of things, a lot of people talking. And if you have been watching the numbers as we have over add podcasts index.org. the fairly new compared to, you know, how long the Apple thing's been around index put together by Adam Curry and Dave Jones.

Podcasting Statistics and Trends

The amount of shows has kind of stagnated, which I think is good there. You mean William Ram? Yes. That you see. Well, there's a lot of people. There's a lot of shows that are in the index, which like four point something million. I think it's closing in on five. And then you look at the ones that are updated over the last three days, 7 or 10 days, couple of weeks. And you realize there are millions of people who went hey man I could do a podcast. This will be great. And it lasted like a show.

Well now you're generalizing. I mean could have lasted 20 episodes. Could have could have lasted two episodes, you know, not even once that were created by design to last a certain number of episodes. Mini series format. yeah. There's nothing wrong with a little mini series now, so I think I think both things can be true. You can have a small percentage of the total podcasts that have ever existed are currently being still done, and not all of them were just shows that lasted an episode.

And people gave up after that. How many millions of people? And it is only at 4.2 million. That was it. That was a little higher. There you go. How many people do you think started a podcast, did 1 to 10 episodes and then realized there's no money in it's. Well, yeah, there's no money. It's work. Yes. It's work. You got to keep a schedule. Editing is not fun. Coming up with new content all of the time is not fun. That is a place that you and I have never had an issue.

But there are people that are like oh what am I going to talk about now? I want there to believe this. There are actually people that's script podcasts. I know, I don't understand it. It's weird. I wouldn't know how to read a script like that. In the past 90 days, 470,000 podcasts have been updated in the past three days, 110,000 in the past ten. I don't know why they don't do a week. Dave Jones If you're listening, give me the week.

Lead numbers ten days is a little odd because you can then be doubling up. Shows that do it once a week, three days isn't enough. So we're guessing weekdays with you weekly, I would guess there's probably about 180. Hey, you know, I hear his show's on right after this one. Yeah, we are with the preview on the live stream. That differs, as some people have talked to, about 200,000 shows somewhere in that range are being done.

But it I just think you can observe it without complaining about it, because that's kind of like going to a bookstore of all the books, right, that have been written that are in this bookstore, only 5% of them have a copyright this year. What's going on, people? But what I think is interesting is that that number has plateaued. It's not like it's continuing to grow, continuing to grow, continuing to grow.

There's a lot of podcasts out there, but compared to regularly updated YouTube channels, still nothing. Yes, but I've also run into quite a few YouTube channels that have officially ceased creating new videos, like they have a this is my final episode episode because they also, I guess we're not making money. Well, I mean, you know, life goes on like one of the guys that I'm referring to did ten years worth of gaming content.

And, you know, this last episode, he had a lot of retrospective stuff like, man, I look different back than I was thinking about different stuff.

Challenges of Podcasting

I was a different place in my life. That is the oddity of all of this media, is that, yeah, you are letting people in. So to your lips. Yeah. And, and it is kind of weird and then kind of sad actually, when you get one of those episodes coming, I was like, no, don't leave, man. We're friends, right? You're my buddy. What do you think? He doesn't know who the hell you are. But, like, I hang out with you every week. You just don't know, Yeah, well, and especially the guys that do weekly shows.

Right? Because you do get used to a certain pattern. There's the weekly show they watch. I watched the, the puma that lives with people in Russia every week, and it's, you know, you you tune in to the continuing saga of what's going on in this woman's life. It's going to be sad when that show ends. Then you have the daily shows, which might be too much. It is, but it's an interesting concept because again, I've mentioned this before, it is like a heat watch. Now, the Lego guy.

Yeah, yeah yeah from Canada who is just an idiot with so many things, but he does the daily content. And the intriguing thing to me is up until, I mean, he started with Lego, I think during Covid or right before Covid is when he got back into it as an adult. He's like in his mid 30s. And now I'm like, okay, just a few years later, you quit your job, you went to be a full time YouTuber and now he bought a warehouse and renovated it to be his Lego building space.

And he doesn't even do custom things. He just like buys the stuff that Lego puts out in the other. It. Yeah, and makes it. He doesn't create it himself, you know. Sure. A little bit of the, you know, niceties around it, you know, the plants and the trees. Sure they'll do that, but that's about it. But now he's doing daily content, has a huge amount of money invested in a hobby. You know, now a profession that he's only been doing for five years or so.

It's like, well, in five years you may want to put a gun in your mouth because you are now this is what you have to do to support your now wife and two kids. And there is definitely that aspect to it.

And I seen that with YouTubers that have become successful, and success is relative different than things for different people, but generally, based on the interviews that I've done with people that have gotten a lot of scrappers, it's really not until you get to over a million subscribers that you can even contemplate replacing a job with income from YouTube, but don't think that it's just a hobby being replaced or replacing a job. It's not. It's a job replacing a job. Right?

And and a job that gives, you know, benefits. And those days off, it doesn't matter what the reason is. If you miss a day, you will see a financial consequence for it. Not only on that day, not getting any money coming in, but, people telling you you suck and unsubscribing as a result of you missing that thing. Right? Where are you at, man? Yeah, there's a certain expectation that's built up.

And, there's a guy named Ollie that that's got, I don't know, a million and a half, couple of million people subscribing to him, that there's been doing a lot of different game stuff. And then about a year ago, a year and a half ago, he started playing, Star Citizen and his content became strictly Star Citizen. So he had an audience he built up when he started just focusing on one game. But he's put out a number of episodes where he is kind of talked about, you know, crisis.

It's like, I don't know what to do. I, I have to put out episodes. I need you guys to watch this stuff. But I'm bored with this game. I have no interest. Like I if it wasn't for this being my job, I probably wouldn't play right now. And that's the intriguing point.

When the money where it turns it from being a hobby that you're just having fun with, where the money is so good, you're now addicted to the money part of it, or reliant upon the money, especially if you quit your full time job and then realize, you know, I am now stuck in this or I mean, the more you know, and maybe this is subsiding a little bit with the MeToo stuff, but you realize that you utter one wrong word, even out in public.

If people know who you are and get canceled, and all of a sudden your money dries up really quick. Yeah, making your living by being a public person definitely creates risks that don't really exist in other jobs. Yes for sure. I mean, maybe you can get fired from another job, but then you'll usually find another one as a public persona. Well, no, you're not, unless you can rebrand yourself with somebody and you may end up working for the Daily Wire or something.

or you might have to get one of those AI programs that can swap your face real time, so you can do videos and just look like somebody else. I tried that for the first time. The software was just updated recently. The The Root Unleashed thing that you can download and my video card sucks. So it was all herky jerky and slow, but even with that, it was kind of terrifying to be able to just swap somebody else's face on yours on a live video. And it looks pretty damn good.

Except again, for the herky jerky, which I know was just caused by the video card not being able to keep up. Like, yeah, never trust anything you see on a video call now. Not not probably not awake at all. Right. It's probably, Well, everything should question everything about what you see, the YouTube stuff. I mean, I thought this was right up your alley and goes right along with the, the YouTube stuff. There's a class action lawsuit that a woman filed against.

Well, I mean, the internet as a whole, I'm sure, but several different companies, against, Activision Blizzard, Microsoft and others alleging insidious manipulation of game design to foster addiction, particularly among minors and young adults. Well, obviously, that's the point. I know, and this is where I have such a breakdown, because this is the same thing that has been tried. You know what a non-addictive game is called? A bad game. No fun.

Yeah, a shitty game that no one likes and doesn't want to play. Everything that is enjoyable because I was trying to figure this one out. Everything that's enjoyable is addictive. Good food, addictive. People get sad. I can tell you that from experience. I've heard that video games. Sure. I've heard that a lot of people like sex. It seems to be addictive. A lot of men do anyway. Oh, are you saying women don't? Maybe you're just not pleasing them. I'm just guessing.

well, I mean, if you want to turn sex into a job, I guess that's something. If that's only you know. I mean, if only the people wouldn't, you know, reading the Harry Potter books, I heard from a lot of people like, wow, these things are so addictive. I can't even put it down. I just have to read them. I have one, one girlfriend. Actually. Try and read that to me out loud, which is obviously.

Yeah, she just graduated college, but it was like she read it, you know, that was the book series of her life. Yeah. The big one was like, how could you not have read Harry Potter? And like, a I'm a guy. I don't care. Gee, I'm like, 25 years old, and you, see, you know, I mean, I'd rather read about rockets and ship than about magic if you'd rather read them. Oh, Dick Marchenko then. Exactly about Harry Potter. Different things are for different people.

But those books for us were quite addictive. I mean, those the when I started a new demo deck book, it was probably done 90% of the time. Within a day. I mean, I'm there was one of these things where it was like, well, I could just read a chapter here and there. They back when you had vision, you used to read like like benders. Yeah. Reached the read. Well, and I didn't read a lot. That was the interesting thing. Was never a huge consumer of books. But the demo stuff, man, those were good.

I mean, if I would have found somebody else, it would have taken way too much time. I'm sure reading the books you read, Clancy. I read a lot of Clancy. No, never read any. Clancy is alive. Really? No. Read a couple of Stephen King. But he. If you liked, Marchenko stuff, you were like Clancy. Maybe I can check him out on audiobook. But the wife. You listen, you can the. The thing is, you have to look at the books Clancy actually wrote.

Because after he died, I. His estate keeps putting out books. Those are the people who write new Tom Clancy. Yeah, they're they're. He. He started while he was still alive. He started doing this thing where.

Comparison to YouTube Channels

Hey, if you're a writer that. Well, that presumably he approves. You can write books in my universe using my characters. Make sense? James Patterson does the same thing. So here he goes. Okay, you know, he does the outline, which is how he does, like, 3 or 4 books a year. He does, you know, the outline and gives it off to another author. And then he, you know, approves it, goes through it and all that. But, a lot of the heavy lifting, you know, he'll give you, okay, here's my character.

It's a ginger. He's a Russian spy. He does that. Go put this together. Gives you the basics of the plot and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And of course, those unknown authors are like, wow, this is great because I'm finally getting paid to write, right? Right. So that's step one is getting paid to write. Steps two is putting your own name on something that actually makes money. Yes, that's the harder part. but books are definitely addictive.

Any product when somebody says there would be death, yeah, it just means the product is good. So all of these lawsuits against companies, whether it is a social media site, next thing you know, she's gonna sue the gaming industry for having addictive casino games, will sue Taylor Swift for the people that can't stop listening to her music, that's now they're just idiots. It's an addiction. No, you can sue or there's money in this gene. there's money like, oh my God, the music was.

There was subliminal messaging to keep me buying and listening. I normally have my, Alexa, wake me up with a soothing, like, noise, like sheep or something like that. So, no, that's not, you know, like the alarm sound, but like a not a not a horrible alarm sound. Today it decided to wake me up with by playing Santana. So just gave you a random Carlos Santana thing. I don't know what I could have said in my sleep to tell it to.

Oh, by the way, when you wake me up, play Santana, you could wake me up to Santana. You can. It will pass the language. It will definitely pass layers. I don't recall saying anything different to it other than turn the alarm on, and it decided to do it, and it was kind of person. I was like, oh, well, this is unexpected. I, I mean, I like a little Santana every now and then. Yeah, a little black magic woman. Was it smooth? It's, oil. I mean, you know, he's got.

Yeah, it was definitely had more of that Latino kind of sound to it. Well, you can't let this up. You know, in your app you can find out exactly what you said it went. Yes, yes, that is true. You can go through it. But I like the mystery of it. you can just say random song as well. I don't think I said anything of them. You know what? It's funny too. Sometimes I will be playing a video game and there's dialog in the video game.

Haha. And even though nobody says her name, she somehow starts to answer questions. Yeah, that happens every now and then when I'm on the 64th president of the United States was Barron Trump. You like when for? How do you know that? First of all. And then secondly, it's a video game and it wasn't talking to you. It's all written down, man. Well, what's here's what's weirder. When there is a commercial that uses the name, and it doesn't respond to it. This has happened a few times.

And there was one where they asked if it means it's aware of the commercial. Right. Which is even weirder. This is even weirder to me. Yeah. There was, somebody did that. I think it was South Park. I think, the South Park episode where they kept saying, Alexa over and over. that episode did not trigger a single Alexa because they because because they got it. They got the scripts. They got the the, it's not the script. They got the, the subtitles. And it was programed to ignore those the genius.

Because otherwise you have a lot of problems. Well, that was I think the kind of the joke of the episode is that they they're talking about their Alexa's, but in the end, that that's going to trigger everybody else's Alexa, which is why you never set your thing up. As convenient as it might be for some people, I never understood the set up that device for the non you know, the buying and just using voice. Oh they called that.

Yeah. You know it's like the one Alexa buy the latest Taylor Swift album right. I think that it shows up. But wait did I order this. Yeah you sure did. Somebody in the background at your house during a party accidentally said I was thinking about it, and, it decided to get that thing. I was talking with my girlfriend, Alexa, and I was thinking, Alexa, should you buy the latest Taylor Swift? And the answer is yes.

Now, see, I think there's a class action lawsuit for every person named Alexa to go after Amazon from ruining their life. Well, to be fair, if you look at the people named Alexa, their parents didn't love them, so they already started off on the wrong side of life. So they deserve the money. Just like this girl with the lawsuit against the video game companies. It's addictive. Oh, she definitely does not deserve the money.

There's been way too many chick stream fuck games and alleges that the intentional exploitation of psychological vulnerabilities and predatory monetization tactics were at the expense of consumers well-being. Well, everything's at the expense of consumers well-being, but that's why they're called consumers now they consume content. There's a very simple answer to this, because there's a lot of things that are allowed to exist in the world that everybody knows is bad for you.

If cigarets are still around, alcohol's around. There's a lot of things that, you know, fast food is still around, but there's a lot of this stuff that, kids can't access. So I think we should just make all video gaming illegal for children when that fix the problem. Okay. With that? Like, this takes care of it, then this whole well, it's addictive and it's trying to get games going for kids anyway, frankly. So depends on which one there that are out there. I mean, like the stuff you play.

No, it's in a different level of, but there are very basic games that you can play. Sure. You know, there's the Barney Smash the head game or whatever it is that they come out with that is and play that one would probably be great before bad. Just be like, oh, that's better, I love you, you love me or be awesome. But it's like I'm going through like a trademark. I'm thinking all this stuff is basically meant to engage people and keep them in.

You know, one of the quotes was, hear the what's defendants make their games addictive in part by encouraging long term extended gameplay, despite knowledge that such extended gameplay causes physical harm in the human brain. In a particularly in a minors developing brain, it's like, again, that is such bullshit. They've done tons of studies that demonstrate that the best soldiers

Video Game Addiction and Monetization

come from kids that played video games their entire lives. This whole thing of, well, you're going to get addicted because they enjoy it too much. It's like, well, this is everything that you enjoy. It's not that thing. You got to try and ban cocaine. Come on. Well, I mean, if if you're doing a cocaine while playing the video games, I hear it is holy hell week. Way healthier that way. I mean, I'm going in like, 45 minutes of sleep.

Now, the, by making their games addictive, defendants are able to maximize profits after the original purchase or free download. Like. Well, yeah, that's called literally the definition of every business. Yes, exactly. it's not a fucking nonprofit to put out a product. When we do this show, the goal is to have an interesting conversation that people will want to stay engaged in for the whole episode. Yeah, that's every podcaster.

That is everybody that has a television show, everybody that's a little they can do next. What topic are they gonna talk about because they have no single topic shows whatsoever. This is just unbelievable. And I don't know if this is it's either stupidity or it could be an anti-capitalism play because yeah she's clearly a socialist. Once you start going after this again books. Same thing. Well I couldn't put it down. I spent them hours. Yeah they're bad. They're getting you.

I couldn't do anything. I couldn't take my attention away. This is trying to say that something was so engrossing that you couldn't take your attention away from it is bad. It should be illegal. It is just insane because it applies to almost literally every product out there. Yeah. And anything that you would classify traditionally as good quality would fall in that list, fall in that category. Oh, well, it was just created to, for consumerism. It just created to take your money. Right.

What would be the answer in games would be to create crappy games that nobody wants to play, apparently. Prank this woman. That would be the answer, because otherwise it's addictive. And I mean sounds like very much a, Karen lawsuit. Oh, I see it. Only 27. I think there needs to be another name for super young Karens, because usually I think a Karen would be, like, middle aged. Yeah, yeah, but when you're this young and coming off like, oh, no, this did damage to me.

It's like, well, one then your parents were shitty because they should have been the ones watching you and like, you know, just damage to her or she just complaining about other people, like, oh, my boyfriend keeps playing video games. That sucks. No, I think she's claiming that it fueled an addictive, addictive thing in her and the micro-transactions. Leads me to believe that she spent a lot of money. Because that's a big part of this as well.

And it's the microtransaction thing is interesting on its own. Right? Because, well, you're well aware of this because you're you're microtransactions in the micro, right? Are not micro at all. They're big. They're they're really big. Where. Well, how much do I have to spend for that new spaceship? Oh, a thousand, no problem. But now if you're a, you know, 16 year old and you're pushing. Oh, yeah, I need I need that man, I need I, I can't live unless I have that spaceship.

Yeah. Then your parents maybe need to give you a bigger allowance, or you should be up playing with your friends or doing something different. Oh, clearly you need to get a job, she says. I think it's a positive thing. It encourages kids to get jobs. She was introduced to video games at the age of four. Well, okay, so I'll turn it basically ignored her. Yeah, they just had to turn it bad and say, goo goo gaga. We'll be back in six hours. That's what it sounds like.

I mean, if you're playing video games at the age of. That's why she had to be suing. Yes. Yes, exactly. Because, again, there are a lot of things in the world you go to Vegas, all of that. This is Vegas, and kids are not prepared for it. There's a lot of adults who aren't prepared for it. They go to Vegas and they end up, you know, $20,000 in debt. You see it a lot with with the dead hooker in the bathtub in the hotel room. Well, that I've had a few times, but at least you don't.

Well, who hasn't? Yeah, this is true. I mean, I've been to Vegas a few times and never lost more than, like, 250 bucks because you go in going, well, here's what I got. And once it's gone, it's gone. I mean, I spent way more on food, but it's like, that's, a different thing or entertaining. Yeah. I was going to say you lost no more than two meals. Okay. Which is pretty good to the casino right? At the time. Yeah. I mean, like

Caesars has a great salad bar, but you're paying like 65 bucks for it. Yes. You know, those complimentary drinks are only there as long as you're putting money into the machines. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we like, well, we know if you have a bit. Oh, no. Although that's not quite true. If you're winning, they absolutely keep serving you free shit because they want you to stay longer and lose. Right. They will. They don't want you to leave with your money. No. With their money.

Right. That's true. Okay. What do you mean your body, though? It's. It's your money. Bullshit. Oh, you're planning on going home? No, no no, no, the presidential suite is open. Stay with us. We'll apply you. We'll have your chips ready for you, and you're ready to come back and play. We will ply you with alcohol and good food. Yeah, yeah, they seem to kick out on a regular basis. the people that have turned, the losing, vacation of gambling, playing into a job by using math.

They don't like those guys. They don't like the card counters. they do frown upon that. But, yeah, they don't. They don't like it when somebody consistently wins. But this is it. I mean, this is adults are supposed to in this world, although we keep seeing more and more with the oh no, we have to verify for porn and we have to verify for blah, blah, blah. Adults should be able to handle their own high. The government should not be involved in that. And for this.

But what about people that don't know that huge soft drinks are bad for them? We should ban those soft drinks. Maybe you could just tell them that, sugar is a New York, right? Exactly. Well, then they tried to do that. Did that ever go through? I know they, tried to be like, well, you could only buy soft drinks and up to, like, eight ounce containers. And I'm like, yeah, what the hell is eight ounces? I think it was 12. But yeah, it's like addictive behavior.

I would believe it is more prevalent. It would happen more in younger brains full of mush. I wonder if this gal goes to Starbucks every morning. I wouldn't doubt it probably gets the same thing. It needs your caffeine maybe once or twice a day. Yeah. Like double truffle latte. Mochaccino some bullshit. You know this whole that companies deliberately engineer

Social Media and Consumer Behavior

their products to be addictive leveraging feedback loops reward systems and patented technologies develop with insights from behavioral psychologist and neuroscientist that it's kind of what every restaurateur has done for the last thousand years. Yeah, 10th, probably 10,000 years. And every girlfriend and, oh my God, yes, it's the same thing they engineered to get your money away from you into them. Oh, yeah. Honey, if you take me here, well, then maybe you'll get some special attention.

This is the world in general. yes. Yes. It's not going away for some teachers. Something her parents never taught her. Yeah. It's like that. Just don't play video games. Nobody's forcing you to play video games. But. But she did apparently. You know I also see people every time you go into a grocery store buying scratch off lottery tickets. Something I have never done. Well, it's like more you like say, no, you don't have to work. You don't have to gamble. You don't have to play video games.

I mean, you can also nothing wrong with doing any of those thing. No, not if you can be in control of yourself. I mean, obviously, maybe this chick couldn't say you're the one that's like, wow, if I bought every microtransaction in the game, I'm going to be poor. But I can't not buy it because I play the game and I'm I feel bad about myself if I don't buy this sword. It's very weird, What am I if I buy put your life into perspective here or what?

I mean, that kind of hits home a little bit, but, but if you have the funds to do it, it's a much different thing. I mean, this is it. I've known people. Yeah. You know, when we went to, wherever we were, Martina McBride, when I was working for her, her husband was playing blackjack. You know, at the thousand dollar plus a hand table. it's like if you have the funds, it's not a problem. Michael Jordan.

I mean, he could lose $20,000 a hand at blackjack all night long, and at the end of the night, be like, That was kind of a bad night. but wakes up in the morning and he's still a billionaire. You know, it all depends on what your current state of being is, that, you know, you have to understand what your limitations are. And, yeah, you understand. Try to see people that have provided the very things that you desire the most is ridiculous. Yes.

What's the same thing when you go after people like, oh, a lot of women seem to be into very expensive shoes and purses. Well, I guess you should sue those companies too. Yeah, right. Yes, yes, yes, indeed. Because we know they're not worth what they're charging for. Definitely not worth. What the hell's difference in $1,000 pair of shoes? An $800 pair of shoes? They look the same to me. One might last three days longer. Yeah, maybe made in China or Bangladesh or somewhere like that.

But this is. Yeah, it's, it's consumerism in general. And it also applies equally to high quality products, which also are addictive. Yeah. Once you've had, Haagen-Dazs ice cream, you're not likely to eat any other kind of ice cream you like. I want more of that. The coffee, the company like Haagen-Dazs. Jesus, this tastes like real ice cream. I want this, not that fake bullshit. Here's another good quote from the complaint.

Predatory monetization schemes at video games are essentially purchasing systems within the game that disguise or withhold the long term cost of an activity. And no players are already committed, both psychologically and financially. Well, they're not committed financially and to like, click something first of all, right.

I mean, psychologically, you can be committed to watching the entire ten years of house, right, for some reason or other, and then you feel like you have to finish it, even if you no longer like the show, they charge you a dollar for the first episode, $10 for the second episode, $100 for the third episode, and you're like, but wait, I'm not ready. I'm not gonna I'm not going to give up now, right? Right. I have to watch, you know, like that. You're using that as a joke.

But, I remember watching, The Americans. And since I don't have cable, the only way I could watch is on an Amazon. And I think they have the first season for free. Oh, yeah, that's how they get. Yeah. And then the second season, I was like, oh, would you like to buy season two for five nights? Oh yes. Oh yes, I buy that. And then it's like, oh, you want to get the current season that's playing right now. Yeah, that's like three bucks an episode. things go up like Jesus Christ.

But when you get a new not watching though I'm assuming that was good. I've never watched that. That was one. Oh, right. So good. Yeah. yeah, I guess I she was not particularly good. It. I don't think she's a good actress. The British dude that played the American guy. Or who? The Russian guy. He was very good. Like he had a really good American accent. I, he just was a good actor, I think, like, outclass her, completely. I mean, your American accent's pretty good, too.

Yeah, I have a little bit of that Minnesota Twins. You can't really. But yeah, it's possible. The plaintiff calls for accountability, holding the defense's defendants responsible for their deliberate misconduct and exploitation of vulnerable populations for financial gain. Again, the victimization mentality is just out of control. It is. So you create a website that keeps people on it for too long. Well, then that's no good. Anything that is interactive and engaging fits into this category.

the you know what? We have to ban TikTok. Of course we're trying to. It's way too addictive. So is, all of the other social media. And it wasn't TikTok because I wouldn't get quite that crazy. But the other day I was bored. Hell, about 5 or 10 minutes to kill that. I checked Facebook for something and the little reels thing popped up and I'm like, okay, I get this. This is the kind of the same thing as TikTok. and I clicked on it and watched it for about five minutes.

Video the video and I'm like, oh my God, this is mind numbing. Yeah, there was nothing. I mean, there is no unless somebody could prove me wrong on this one. I don't think anybody can create a video that's 15 seconds or less in legs that is going to hold anything that is worthy of the time, even in that short period of time. Have you watched any baby animal videos? No. Should I? Is that okay? There you go. Yeah. It's it's it doesn't matter. 15 seconds is plenty of time for baby animal videos.

Like, the ones clip I saw of a of a possum with a dozen baby possums on her back, all looking right into the camera. Super cute. You know, like 15 seconds. That was well worth the time. I mean, would you rather. I don't think you need any more than 15 seconds of that, but you kind of want your 15 seconds of that, I guess. I mean, maybe that's it. Maybe baby animal videos are the one thing that can save the social media. Mostly it was people acting out horrible little skits.

it was people pretending they're doing practical jokes on other people that, you know, just aren't true. But, you know, again, are staged. At least 95% of them appear to be. Yeah. You know, it's all just like, why is this content even a thing? And I can't figure that one out except that it must be somewhat addictive. Maybe this chick's right. It's addictive. And people once they go down the rabbit hole is addictive. Addictive just means of the choices that you're present with.

You'd rather do that. It's the thing you choose. Yeah. So yeah, that's all it takes to be addictive. I guess. Some people have the addictive personality. Some people have the gene that allows them to get caught into things that maybe they don't even like. I mean, I don't understand, and it's on a lower level, I think.

But my wife, yeah, if she starts reading a book, we start watching a movie and you're like 20 minutes in and it sucks, you know, or a book, you know, you're you're a chapter or two and it's like an it sucks. I am of the mind where I'm like, I'm stopping now. I want to I'm where she's like, but we started, we got to we have to see how it ends. Like, no, you actually you don't have to see how it ends. Well, your wife is a completionist. She has a little bit of OCD.

That's, very common ailment in the American psyche. So, like, I gotta know what happens next. It's like, no, you don't. You can just. You could just check right on out. I guess I'm lucky. I mean, that's maybe that's why she's still here. You can also watch a 15 second video that explains see what happened. True. It's cliff notes, baby. I kind of know. People are like, what is there that we don't even know what books are.

So we don't know what Cliff's Notes are, where they Cliff notes or CliffsNotes. I forget Cliff notes, just I think right now, classic CliffsNotes. Now, I think they're Cliff notes. It's one of those things like the Mandela Effect where you're like, oh, I worked in a bookstore and had to see these things daily. And I don't read.

The Role of News Media

I couldn't tell you for sure right now. If they were cliff notes or Cliff, were they yellow or green? Yellow. You had green ones. Were there green ones do. Was that something different? I think they were green ones for cliff notes or cliff notes. Cliff's Cliff's where are you? Cliff? Cliff bar notes. So damn. So people didn't want to read the book, the Cliff Bar or Cliff's Bar? I don't know. Why are you asking me all these hard questions? My brain has been addled by video games.

Well, that's obviously not true. I never played enough video. Maybe that was the problem. I didn't play enough video games as a kid. Yeah, yeah, it could be. Yeah. Wait, did you start it for, like, a normal person? No. See, they didn't exist. What? I was for all that. Wait, that's that's probably a lot. Yeah, I think pong, we may have gotten the first pong machine into our house somewhere. Or in the time when I was, well, probably between 4 and 7 or eight. when did that point?

I'd have to look it up. I found it once. online. The pong machine that we had was like. It was so, like, revolutionary. Like you could move a line out of TV. Wow. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Now, the stuff kids get into, it's like it's just gotta have some kind of an effect. All of this stuff, especially the social media, the stuff that they post, the stuff that they share, the stuff that you are exposed to. Like, I don't know, it was way better not being connected.

Although cell phones as a whole for adults, I think just as damaging the can't stay away from the constant flow of whatever the information is, whether it's constant messaging, whether it's constant, like you're if you have a job where you're on call and you're constantly getting stuff from work, the concept of unplugging is one everybody should, get back to at least once or twice a month where you just don't have the phone around at all. Just go live.

Yeah, and it's easier than you think to do that. All you got to do to just not charge for a day. Yeah, leave it off and not worry about, you know, this is the addictive thing. There's a lot of people like you, I don't know, I can't I can't turn it off. What if somebody tried to get me. Yeah. You like. So yeah, I do think that that there is a younger generation that kind of grew up with the phone in their hands and doesn't really know that their hands can be without a phone.

Yes. That they can live without the phone for a few days at a time. And this is just bad parenting. I mean, there's no other way around that. But parents, you have the ability in bad parenting. I'm trying to decide right now whether I'm going to bring a gaming laptop with me when I go, visit my dad because you would rather not spend time with them when you're with them. Or you're like, well, there are times where he's otherwise engaged watching Matlock, and you may have, both.

Yeah, either, you know, Fox News or something. Fox News. It's not what it used to be, you know, does it really matter what it is? It's always been a waste of time. Yeah, well, news media overall waste of time. Because once they have 24 hours to fill, that's also where the world started taking a downturn.

It was one thing when he had newspapers that, you know, were printed once a day, and I know there were special editions now and then, but overall, your newspapers were once a day and your television news was once most people only watched it at one of the newscasts a day. It wasn't, hey, I gotta get up and watch the news in the morning. And no, I got to watch the midday news. No, I got to watch the nighttime news. Most people caught up, you know, if they were like my parents.

Anyway, it was the 10:00 news, and they watched that, not even all the time. But that was where you got the news once it went 24 seven. And these entities were like, oh, wow, now we have a lot of time to fill. do you wanna manufacture it? The coverage of the news became completely different when you have all of that time to fill and you're like, well, what are we going to put in here? And this is where the rise lately, of opinion is way different.

I don't even know if people that are the younger generation always been opinion. I don't know, man. Like you watch guy and he has his shows. There's a ton of opinion there. Yeah. But there was also what you would call hard news back then. Now it's all opinion. It's not even a mixture of yeah, news and opinion. It's just all opinion. Yeah. And not only that, the worst part to me and my I've never really watched news. but I also never had a television for most of my life. Yeah, yeah.

But you always have a screen,

Personal Anecdotes and Technology

which a lot of people, when they see you don't have a television. Now it's like, well, who needs a television? Yeah, but I, I didn't have a television starting with 1992. Okay. You were an early adopter that I when I. Yeah, I, I decided early on that television was just a waste of time. And so I never got one. And then my first television that I ever bought as an adult. Well, ever. Really. I never bought one as a kid. But, was I bought after I got married because, I wanted to play video stuff.

Oh, no, she wanted to watch. That's a cooking show. I'm sure I was already while playing video games, but, no. And so. And then, she that, you know, we went through a bunch of television over the marriage and then, when we got divorced, she took the TV, and I did not replace it. I still don't have a TV, but you have multiple screens. Of course. I have, like, five screens around me right now that are all active.

And I would like to know, because I, I have a projector in the bedroom that has, 155in. Well, see, that's also a TV technically, but no, that's just for porn, right? For the 155in. So it looks, life size. It's. It's a wall of porn. When you look at your answer to this question may be different than mine, but if you were to look at everything that's on cable, satellite television now, content wise, quality wise, compared to the content that's on YouTube, I think they're pretty similar.

Now pick YouTube every time there is better, more focus. YouTube has the variety that has never existed in normal media, and it is, like I can watch my weekly film on living with people show from Russia, but you don't have a TV. But how do you watch it now? Of course it's on the screen. Yeah, well, it's on one of the screens for sure. I mean, I watch a lot of YouTube on my 65 inch, back reject your, whatever the, the only projector back projection, not front, which we've had for like 15 years.

I keep hoping it dies, but it doesn't, so I just do it when they. Yeah, but that's where I watch most of the YouTube, which is kind of weird. Yeah, but it doesn't matter what you're putting up on the screen. So which screen it is doesn't really matter. But I like YouTube for the fact that if I have a specific interest, like I was curious, you know, what's going on with the I writing? Well, there's channels specifically for that. Absolutely. Yeah, there's actually a few of them.

And you're not going to find that in that topic right on the regular TV. You're not going to find nothing. No. So YouTube wins there. But there's also, if you were just to know, the ship sale starts in ten minutes. I just got an announcement. Oh, boy. She's gonna have to buy some virtual. This is like buying autographed Taylor Swift merchandise. Pretty much. Yeah, it's it's get. It starts in ten minutes. I gotta jump in there. Be one of the first people to buy it.

You got to warm up your fingertips. You got to get a quick man. I don't want to miss out. I've got. Yeah, I've got my, My arm brace, brace. I don't know what you call those things you put on your arms to keep your arms from getting tired, right? Like the bowlers would use. You know, you're all regular tennis players. I'm sure you are an athlete when it comes to league. I am technically, and I've got the one that goes around my forearm.

I've got another one that goes around my wrist and my my fingers, and it's like in the shape of the mouse so that it guides my hand to be at the right shape. So you can use that by finally one millisecond faster. yeah. And my mouse, operates, to a 10,000th of a second. it's a super high poly. Well, I told you about this. I get my mice from New Zealand. These are the best professional gaming mice in the world. I did not know this from New Zealand. Oh, yeah? What's the a company, mate?

Would you know who makes a swap point? And these are the best. These are literally the best professional in gaming mice you can get. I'd never, Yeah. And then I think the first of all I got was, like, 350 bucks. Now they're down to about 200, which is not crazy. No. For something that is like pro quality, it's not crazy at all there. This mouse has a gyroscope in it so you can pick it up and like manipulate. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. You can pick it up and fly an airplane.

I mean, I've always used the I mean obviously a little bit more simplistic, but I've always using the higher end or the highest end Logitech. And finally it took years with a lot of tech was making decent stuff up until recently. Yeah, it took me years to go from the wired to the wireless because I didn't think they could be quite as good. Well, this thing's wired. That's see, you know, because you got a quicker going wireless. Yeah, exactly.

but it's got a display on that obviously not a display. But here's the other cool feature other than gyroscope. It has pressure sensitive buttons. So the buttons are not just on or off. Do you have to be like hard press and soft press? Yes, you can do that. You can. You can do them for things that I like. Do you can map a pressure of a button to a joystick axis. Oh, know this thing is you can see why you're defending the video game industry because you're addicted. I mean, I'm addicted.

I'm just a, user of it, to a high degree to how? To what extent. But I've always had an interest, you know? I mean, I've, I've run several software companies. I was started off as a developer when I was young, and, I still make mods for different video games for fun. Yeah. Now, ChatGPT can code better than you. I it probably always code better than me, but I doubt the controller as efficiently as me, because that was always a thing that I really liked and everybody else hated.

Is efficient coding. And there because so few people did that, I kind of doubt that GPT engines would know how to do that. And what I mean by that, if you're wondering, is what is the fewest number of commands that you can stick on a single line to achieve what you're trying to achieve in the routine, that would make sense, because that's a big part of it. It's not. You don't want the bloatware. Yeah, I come from a day when, like the amount of memory you had was still an issue.

So I never changed that tactic. I like to be, very, you know, concise the like the code can operate in a very small amount of memory footprint. I mean, I guess there are people in the trial where my screen just froze over there. So I was like, wondering why is always nobody saying anything? And now that Ned's there, I'll project see Brooklyn, Billy Bones, cotton gin, the usual suspects, the usual suspects.

And we enjoy the people who don't work, though they work and they enjoy the show while they're working. I mean, you work when you're say you're playing video games, you're like, well, this is my treat. Hey, hey, hey, hey. I'm a highly professional video game player. And the, that means nobody is. Nobody's boosting, though, because the pupu should be out there now. Okay? Comic strip blogger. Yeah. You said the word boosting. So he had reminded them. Oh, yeah, he's korva.

Korva is pupu working? Koura? Yes. I mean, I guess it is. I'm only 333. I'm gonna have to change that though. CSB yeah, I thought you did raise the stakes on that. Maybe that's why I figured that's why I wasn't working is because no one was doing a high enough number. No, no, I need to do that. This was just nobody were, what, an hour into the show? Nobody's interested. I'm just, you know, laid back in the Chase lounge chair a little bit.

Yeah. He's just how you get ready to buy your new spaceships. You got, Yeah. Yeah, I, you know, in five minutes, I'll be saying. Oh, you got to get in here. I know I was doing that, the other day because the the asshole phoning in the show with your partner, the, they, well, they kept doing random drops of Taylor Swift autograph cards. Never was able to get one. So, I mean, there's that. And I fucking hate the Captcha stuff. That should be. Yeah, I applaud it.

Especially after you log in to an account. You have a legitimate gripe against them being handicapped and everything. Yes. And the one day I hit the little, headphones icon, which should give you an audio capture that was like, oh, no overloaded, no audio capture. So it's like, well, this is how shit, man. Learn how to read. It's like, sorry, can't fucking see assholes. See, Brooklyn says he's addicted to the show. Well, that's pretty interesting.

We should separate you from some of your satoshis. If you're that addict. Yes. We need to, like, probably figure out a way to do that. We need to microdose you out. It'd be like, oh, we would keep lighting up those neurons in your brain. They're like, oh, I like this. They're talking. We're saying more things. They're talking directly to me. Hello. See, Brooklyn, thank you for listening to unrelenting. Would you like to buy it? Upgrade baggage, put it.

you know, if you sentence me, you don't even have to listen.

Listener Engagement and Boosting

There's, like, you guys actually record the show only on Fridays. That's true. We have the conversation basically the same way every day. But we recorded on Fridays, and it's always more entertaining on Fridays. For some reason. I don't know why. I don't know if I agree with that. The boys on the no agenda were still Pooh poohing the ChatGPT stuff and I will. Like I said, I sent Adam the link to the new stuff. The latest I didn't hear for it. Yes to four.

Oh you know, not 404040 that's a little oh ram the big oh the voice that the thing was giving off. You know, that was the computer voice. It was like overtly flirty and sassy. Totally. It sounds better than most women. You know what you're like. Why? Why did you go to that extreme? I mean, it's fun. It's interesting. Oh, and it was laughing at his jokes. Hey, you're so funny. No, I really I think you're so brilliant. You know, this is exactly. Yeah. This. Will you want to talk about addictive?

Yeah. Was there a movie like this called her or something that came out years ago? Maybe just imagining that or that. Is that a real thing? I don't recall, but it's possible. But this is very similar to that. You know, you want to say you're going to sue video game companies because they kept you addicted. This is going to addict every guy that's like, oh, I can pay $20 a month and a girl like me, even if it's a virtual girl. Oh my God, that's such a good deal compared to the real thing.

Well, yeah, it's it's way cheaper. Hey, Tom. Cheaper than being married. It's so much cheaper. And, Oh, that was a good one. The, very loud. That was right in the middle. The forehead to, you added a little bit of echo right to that. You know, it's, it's a fully produced show, a little bit of reverb, trying to make it different than the the other shows, which just means I have to pull up the screen here. see Brooklyn 2000 stats. He wants to know if you are enjoying Star Citizen 3.23.

How is it different than 3.22, I guess, yeah. So there are still bugs. but the changes that they've implemented, I'd say for the most part are good. still not sure about master modes, which I don't know what that means. If he asks the question, I think that it I it actually does have some pluses, but it also makes piracy way easier. So I think a lot of people are going to complain about it because they're going to get killed. How does it make it easier?

Oh, you mean like in the game not pirating. Yeah. So what they. Yeah. Yeah. There are pirates in the game. There are pirates in the game, which is just anybody who kills other players rather than than PCs. it's, I can define piracy is nonconsensual PvP player versus player. gotcha. So this this game is overall you're supposed to interact with the non-humans in that way, but not you're not. The piracy is considered a legitimate profession in the game. So it's supposed to be in there.

It's just that when you're trying to kill NPCs and somebody shows up and kills you, it's kind of annoying. Yeah. Like life. Yeah, somebody. So I ended up in prison as a result of that. And, so you're you're paying for a game where they put you in prison. Oh, yeah. How much? Like an hour and a half. If you separate virtual jail. Oh, you can mine. You can mine in prison, too. You know, if you you do a good job in the chain gang mining, they'll release you sooner. So you.

If you work harder, if you're a good slave. Yeah. Then they'll let you out. That's good. You're teaching police? This is teaching children something. It it is. Absolutely. although I don't think game children are playing this game, it's fairly expensive. Well, you know, the rich ones. Do we have their daddy register as children? I didn't thought that, they're the only ones sent you a link, which nobody can see except for you, obviously, to the current ships for sale.

Just to give you an idea, they're to see what's going on here. What's happenin, what's shakin? See? What's the haps? Oh, with some, cheap $60, but. Oh, here's one for 350 bucks. Stock limited. Right. Because it's a digital Starship. Stock is limited. you're only limited because you put a higher price on it and then put a thing on that says stock is limited. Yeah. See, Brooklyn says you have to escape the prison. Yes. Well, you can, but that actually takes even longer.

And then you take longer than good behavior. Come on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And and once you escape, it's not like your sentence goes away.

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

You then have to break into a police office and then hack the computer records that have your prison sentence in there. That sounds way too realistic. I mean, some people would say it's not a game, but some people would say with this pricing, yeah, that's pretty good time limit. And now I'll bet you if you refresh about two minutes from now, it'll be it'll say sold out because it's a limited edition. I've got two of them, but only this one thing that, it gets sold out instantly, super fast.

Yeah. There's nothing worse than when you're like, you better be clicking the refresh rate now. Otherwise, you're going to miss all the good deals. Test boost from that. Who? Just wanted to hear it? Go do do do do. Oh, the MPV tractor is in. Oh sweet. I'm buying that. So you have to get all your stuff in. I have no idea what it does. They haven't talked about it at all, but it's for sale. If you only had me, I they could do all this stuff for you. It would be even better. Buy things. Yeah.

That one. Well, that's what everybody was mad about with all of the, the Taylor Swift stuff, which I'm like, sorry to keep using that as an example. Yeah. You. Yeah, I think we've got that bingo card covered already, but it's the only thing I can think of lately that people are going online and trying to buy quickly before it's sold out within seconds. Right. And everybody got pissed off like the last time when you bought the four and had it sent to me. Well, they were smart enough this time.

Yeah. Where they limited it to one per customer. And rather than just doing one sale for like the hour or whatever, they could have, you know, they broke this down into little like three minute segments over and kept popping it in and out of stock in order to try to placate more people. And that still made people pissed off. Yeah. And I talking about Lego. No, not yet, because we haven't gotten to that point.

Although again, going back to YouTube, there was a video that popped up of a guy who had his Lego collection, and it was it about the size of this office. So it was not a huge collection, but the value was about a million bucks because it was a bunch of these, one of one Star Wars figures that they made as promos and all this kind of stuff. And I'm like, that's just crazy. Yeah, like that's where you kind of go, you don't want to be a part of this anymore.

There's too much. It's like baseball card collecting. It was fun until there was like 8000 sets a year, right? That's. Yeah. You remember when there was just, like, two sets a year and then bubble gum? When it was Topps. Fleer. And that was the good old days. Yeah. I only remember two that I bought, but yeah, those were the good old days. And then all of a sudden tops had like 14 different variations and sets a year, and then it's like, no, you can't keep up with it.

And then all of the TMI short runs, it just is absolutely crazy. We are in an episode of The Big Bang Theory. No, that's kind of what the show is, but it's more Seinfeld. Yeah, we're we're just like the Big Bang either way. Yeah. Before the PSA bullshit says that, let me tell you about PSA two that that because my dad I had those cards, the Jordan cards that were up, I went through and had to get the, the grading on them.

And then I sent them because we were, you know, you have like one year we bought into the bullshit with, you know, you have the subscription. So I had some other cards done for them. It's been a year or two now, I think, since we've had any cards graded. And they sent me a thing about two weeks ago. Oh, here's $25 off your next grading. Come on, come back, come back, come back. Oh, limited time. And I didn't do it.

I and the other day, here's a $100 off your next grading of $150 or more or something like this. Grading costs. there. Not cheap. Not cheap at all. I can write a break down, but at least now I'll be like, okay, dad, what else you got? What do you got that we can, send in the PSA? Because PSA is still the one that gets you the highest amount of money. One, if you get them through Beckett or these other companies, the grading is decent.

But like, if you get a nine, Beckett, it's not going to get you what, a nine PSA would be. For whatever reason. I have no idea why. It's like these are people think that, PSA is harsher, which they may be. I will say Collectors Club only right now, the ten, especially the ten card minimum. So if the cards are worth $300 or less, ten cards are 1599 a card. So yeah. 60. Yeah. Now that's the market to get into. That's the guy selling shovels. Yes. Oh yeah.

These people have made a shit ton of money. You probably need a person to do that. Well, this is where I told CSB. I'm like, build me an AI where I can just slap. The other thing is they are so specific on this stuff where it goes down to the corner, you know how sharp it is, which you can you can do this.

I would think just by being able to scan this, if you could come up with an AI where somebody could scan the card in and you could tell them within, you know, 95% certainty what it would grade, then people would know if it's worth sending in because most cards, oh, maybe that's the service you should do is like pay for ten bucks a card will tell you if it's worth sending in to grade right. Because here this is.

If my dad had a bunch of cards and I looked him up and I'm like, well, here's the price difference. What they are, whether it grades a seven, eight, 9 or 10 with most of the cards, if it grades a tad, well, yes, it's worth having graded, but if it rates an eight, you're probably losing money unless you're dealing with cards that are, you know, even in crappy condition, worth, you know, hundreds and hundreds of dollars, if not more

job. Now that says he is a Fleer Jordan rookie that he refuses to get graded. That could be worry though. If you get a PSA ten, I'll let you know what that thing's worth. What the Jordan rookie I mean, I think well over 100 grand. Holy shit. Imagine how much you could donate to us if he told us. Just just send us your, Jordan rookie cards. Don't send us your blankets. he said it would probably rate more about a 6 or 7. See, that's the issue.

they're really only worth grading if you're going to get the the big money. Big money. But the jump between a nine and a ten is the insanity that made the baseball card or any sports trading card stuff less fun, I think because you're putting value on something that you had zero control over. yeah. Even in that range, he says they're worth 3 to 5000, which isn't bad. Wow is not bad. But yeah, if you get a nine or a it's crazy. And this is all very subjective and it's bad.

I mean, again, on YouTube there are guys that have videos where you could, you know, they end up posting. Well here, I got the card, I sent it to PSA, you know, and I got an eight. So I broke it out of the packaging. I said it it again and the next time you know it got a nine, you know, it's it's very subjective. Go in the other direction. Sometimes they could go in the other direction as well. Yeah, but this is where the scam is in the grading because it is a bit subjective.

Although it's easy to see again, a computer, somebody that was able to scan a card, you could see how sharp the corners are. You could see the coloration. I don't know if you could accurately on these cards that have gloss. I don't know if you could do that with by scanning it, I mean, you might have to have a different system that would hit you could probably build something that would photograph it from multiple angles. That would yeah, try to recreate that

in a three dimensional copy. Yes. And then be able to tell you what it would grade, because you would save yourself so much money if you could come up with a system and you see if people are willing and this is on special to pay like 16 bucks a card, you could charge a grand easily for a system him that would take the photos of the card, and if it was within tolerance that if it could predict with, you know, 90% accuracy, if you send this card in, it's going to grade this.

then people would know they would save them so much money they would be more than happy to buy your graded at home kit, because you would never send in the cards that are like, well, no, see, this corner is too round. It's never going to be more than a six, so don't send it right, right, right, right. This is where I could really be of use.

Not for being creative, not for coming up with new Hollywood scripts, but for looking at things in the real world and evaluating them, which is where I think, you know, Adam was being a little too harsh on the AI stuff. I mean, for I am wondering if it's just part of his shtick now. It's a bit maybe because it's like there's plenty of good uses for AI, just like there's good uses for shovels. It doesn't mean this shovel solves all your problems. True. And if you know its limitations.

But I had it do the, the ChatGPT I had, it do the one paragraph, teaser for Wednesday's grumpy old Ben's with a Ryan Ben Rose and I. Yeah. And besides, getting memories is name wrong. I was obsessed. Worth the money right there. Right? It was. I forget what it said, I, I changed it, I updated it before I posted it.

but it said in episode 256 of Grumpy Old Ben's The Host, dive into a range of engaging topics, from the complexities of working remotely and the impact of corporate policies on employee morale, to the intriguing yet unsettling advancements in AI technology. Blah, blah blah. And there was 100% about itself. That's nice. Yeah, but it was 100% accurate. Yeah. And then I tried something else because it didn't work with the last iteration, but with this one I fed it lead. Transcript.

With the timestamps and said, can you make me chapters for this podcast and give it to me in this format? And it just spit out the chapters. There you go. So I post it now. It's got chapters. I mean, I don't know if the chapters are good or accurate, but it has chapters and it seemed to do all right. And, you know, figure out how to label them.

So I think it has use because you talked about it and I saw this somewhere was one of those one of the podcast hosts had this as part of their thing that they were offering was we can do AI chapters. So I'm like, well, okay. I figure, yeah. so the buzzsprout, the guys that we used, for my other shows, they do that. So now the, ChatGPT seems to do that right out of the box the month extra. Right? Well, this is right out of the box. Granted, for, you know, this.

Well, they opened up a lot, but it's still. Yeah. And honestly, it's a sort of zoom if you have the commercial version, like it'll do chapters for you. Yeah. Like, well, just tell me when we change topics, that kind of a thing. Yeah. Pretty much interesting, but it makes sense. Yeah. This is the kind of like downloadable and plug in and automatically there's some real labor involved. But. Right. Well this it was, it was like it just gave me one.

I could just cut and paste right into the it gave me it into the Json format. So I just opened up boom. Oh that's nice. Popped it in the first, it gave it to me. You have to tell it to do the Json format. Yes. I asked for it in Json format and it came back with the time codes and I'm like, oh, don't know. Just do that with, you know, change the time code to seconds. And it did it. Yeah. It just worked.

Again, I don't know how good the chapters will be, although I don't know how good there is. No one cares, right? For this episode, for our show, for Grumpy Old Ben's, for any show that goes on for hours and dives between different topics. Yeah, any kind of chapters that just hit on keywords.

and it's not that hard for an AI to go through and pass that data and go, well, here's where they change from talking about one thing into another exact I don't think again, it could write the script or do anything like that, but for a tool to do certain things that would otherwise take a while, because I can tell you after this show, or Grumpy Old Band or Planet Rage or any show that I do, I have a problem like, well, what to do that

paragraph because I'm like, what did we actually end up talking about? Yeah. You know, like I forget it as soon as we do it, it's like, wait, what did we talk about? So having the capability to just go, oh yeah, give me a one paragraph hitting on the main topics we talked about. Boom. And it's right. I mean everything has been correct so far. So I can't complain all that much. Yeah I think the AI tends to be fairly fairly close.

I mean, you can kind of say, well, that's not completely exactly what we talked about, but from what I've seen, it does, it does spit out a usable and yeah, usable. And I think the, the phrase I'm thinking is not inaccurate. So it may not be optimal, but it's not an accurate. Correct. Yeah. The female voice was a little creepy. Oh yeah. You know, I was just, you know, again, it was trying to, make it to human, I guess, or something like that. It went kind of over the beyond.

Just useful to being when you said flirty and giddy is kind of a little more than. Although I think you might be able to adjust that. Oh, I'm pretty sure you can. Yeah. You know, this is just like, wow, this will mean it's way more, but beautiful that that voice is something we've not had yet. Really. So it's I think that's why they use it in that video is because it's new. Yes. And when they were doing the read a bedtime story, that's like, no, no, no, be more dramatic.

And it got a little bit more dramatic. And then it was like, no, no, no, I mean really dramatic. And it just did it which is kind of cool. Yeah. You know this again they'll just be parents. They're leaving their kids by the machine where the thing can read them a story. And you don't know what the thing's going to come up with because it's not like well read Grimm's fairy tale. It's like make up a story about to be.

Yeah, it's going to be in the format of a fairy tale with two mommies or two daddies and a kid that clearly was born in the wrong body so they can sue a video game company and, being and want more than likely, the kid goes on to protest against Israel. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's definitely a lot of that going on. just watching the metaverse with the people that are like, no, man, it's real. Was it fault? Man? Don't you read they killed 6 million Palestinians, man. You don't know. That's exactly it.

Yeah. The 6 million Palestinians. Yes. That's exactly right. You just don't know the truth, man. I've been here. Watch this YouTube video. That's eight hours long. Literally. Yeah. It's like, oh my God. Yeah. It's ridiculous. I don't know how people decide, like, who they're going to believe. Military people pick their favorite sports teams. I mean, that usually is due to geography. Although I will say always, this is where NASCAR is a little different.

Most people, if you have a favorite baseball team, is the one you grew up watching, whether it was locally or a lot of people became Cubs fans and Atlanta Braves fans over the years because it was the only thing, nationally because of WGN, right? And TBS for the Braves, that, oh, this is the team I grew up watching. So I get it. But it's usually local. It has nothing to do with anything, really. It is just what your friends like, what your family likes.

Kind of like we start growing up and I think that's the way it works in politics as well. You know, you grow up with whatever your parents are, you're going to be, although now they're getting a lot more of the indoctrination in school than they ever did when we were in school. And we're both in our 50s. there was no political indoctrination that I can remember. I think the closest you can come to that is to pledge allegiance. And that was it.

Like, well, we're trying to make you a Democrat or Republican. That was just, no, we're just trying to make you an American. You know, something that every school allegedly did at that time. I mean, I don't know, I'm assuming that was a, an edict that just like something schools randomly did. I think it all started during the big communism scare. Probably you have to pledge allegiance.

Yeah. Which I always found to be very silly to have children say stuff like that, because they're not capable of making contractual decisions. No, they now don't. You know, you can decide at seven that you want to cut your dick off and be trans. I'm pretty sure your parents have to pay for that. Well, well, I don't know. Now, the government might do it for you if you live in the right state. You think? Yeah, maybe. Maybe it is. it's a strange world, no question about it.

You pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God. Can you believe we said God in the school that was inserted, that then this being there, and then they tried to take it out? Do they still do the Pledge of Allegiance? I'm curious. That's what God is. More. Yeah. What? God? They don't want to do the national anthem. Oh, yeah. yeah. The Omega project says if we cut it off, you could become a Democrat instantly.

Yeah, exactly. One way to do it. I don't know if I want they they still do the Pledge of Allegiance in the House of Representatives daily. This goes on. I don't know if it's daily, but when they I think it's when they open up the session, they're turning into the British Parliament, with the fighting. Oh my God, dude. Yes. Not to live tonight. Entertaining, but I'm. Yeah. I'm not opposed to that. I think the Brits have figured out politics. It should be entertaining.

You should be able to call people out and tell them why they're full of shit. my honorable colleague here is full of shit. That's. It's always. My honorable colleague is a total asshole. Yes. Although they're not that not a rebel, are they? they're not that honorable. But the honorable gentleman rises. When will the. I just take over all of those seats? Oh, soon, I hope. Just take over. Make everything well, I don't know you.

I well, actually, I do know you don't listen to just the good old boys band. Is that still a show? You. And it's not only that. So you should listen to the next episode. The next episode that comes out. That's the last one. The one that's a prime member, the one that's about to come out the. So if I remember to to come out today, if I don't, it'll come out tomorrow.

But, we started a new ongoing, segment would be the right term where we discuss and debate what the Constitution of the Republic of Texas should look like. Interesting. Yeah. And and my, recommendation or rule, maybe even, was that we can't just copy and paste what currently exists and in other documents, so we have to discuss it, come up with what we think it should have, even if it doesn't currently exist in the United States or in state constitutions, etc., and then put it in there.

God bless Texas, although I don't know if they're that different than, most states now used to be. they used to be. I mean, the idea of Texas is different. The composition of Texas is becoming more and more foreign. And of course, by foreign, I mean Yankee used to be a bunch of freedom loving would stand up, would defend the land. Now, got too many other things going on.

Yeah. Why are they might still defend land, but there's a there's certainly a growing percentage of, what I would call fiscal Texans, which is people that moved here from California because it's cheaper to live here. Well, yeah. and less people doing drugs on the street. Yeah, exactly. But it doesn't mean they gave up their California voting ways. No. Which is hilarious, because they don't put two and two together. That the way they voted creates a mess. They left.

Yeah. How do you not figure that one out? I know, crazy people are dumb. They don't. Yeah. If, But but you know, it's not just California immigrants that have that problem. You look at the immigrants coming from the Muslim world, the people that escaped very harsh, severe penalties for a variety of things that aren't even considered crimes in the Western world, like speaking or, you know, having your head not wrapped.

they after leaving those countries that have that, they're very desperate to bring that to Western countries. And I'm looking at you, England and London specifically, which at this point I've been referring to as, understand because London really is a muslim enclave at this point. It is not part of Britain and Britain. This seen to be not part of Britain as well. What you're seeing in Ireland too. I seen a bunch of videos on YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is migration that is overwhelming.

The local culture. Nothing new. Yeah. No, no, it's being done for a reason. Do it's not random. Okay. Now do a refresh of the page that they sent you, the one where you got to see how many of the ships are still available. Yeah. The real question is, how many ships did you buy? June? Well, I've put them in my shopping cart, but I haven't Bunny yet. You like? I like this ship. I like this ship. I see that first one still just. Oh, sold out. Yes. The constellation Phenix.

ILWU as we're recording is now sold out. Wow. That you have that your cart? No, I told you, I already have two of those. Oh, you got two. Well, maybe three. That's it. Well, you need technically, I have four of them, but I really only consider two. I have two for backup. The other two are at the shop. They're getting so much striping done. you know, like one of those guys that just has way too much time on your hands. I am going to pick up some new paint for the ship.

So this is the ultimate for a game that is not even officially not officially done. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Where they keep selling you more and more in more sponsorship by Polaris ILWU, all $750. How many of those you have? pass. I'd like to take. I'm not answering that for 400. It's. Yes, exactly. It's a it's a really nice ship. And, been looking forward to it for a while. I may have picked 1 or 2 of those up. Well, at least you have a resale capability until the game crashes and dies.

right, right. Exactly. So as long as the resale capabilities there, I and theoretically have a way to change the ships back into money. Yes. This is video game add on shit. Yeah. For professional gamers. Yeah. Professional gamers who, have professional machines and professional mice. Yeah. But the ships are definitely tax deductible given my professional status and professional, connection to the internet. Even Gina has a business connection. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I got fiber.

If you only have five gig each way, you wouldn't have anything to worry about. Exactly. I miss the good old days when having broadband gave you the advantage. And all this stuff like getting tickets online to concerts and stuff like that. Yeah, I did when I was playing professionally back in the early 2000s, I had a T1 line going directly into my gaming PC who I mean, now that sounds slow, but back then it is slow. But back to Meg and a half. But back then the mega half was like, Holy shit.

Cerberus is sir Gene's connection to the internet isn't an issue, but somebody should check his connection to reality. No, no, that's, been out for a while now. Yeah, I recommend membros check your connection to a virtual reality himself, because you'll find it's a lot more interesting. Ooh, you guys should do a show. No one's ever said that before. No. Nobody ever said it and meant it. perhaps, so let's see how much. Oh, my shopping cart has $1,006 on it right now.

This is probably why nobody is, boosting. Jean needs $1,000. I need $1,000 right now. Give me some stats. He wants to buy himself some virtual spaceships. I need me some sad man. We all do. At least you got my node running. The node still running. It has a node. Has a died. I still have about a million satoshis each way with the way the channels have been balanced. So if somebody sent a million multi million, there you are.

You have somebody sent a million satoshis right now it would come in allegedly. I'm not sure. So expensive the ships I don't know I don't understand how I got $10,000 so quick. They want you to have you put your credit card in right now. Just read it to me and I'll make sure that I have my cards so everybody can see why. Because I have the the the the combo deal here. Yeah. That's why Gene's credit card number is five, 35654. Exactly. Jordy your one that's going to lunch.

Have a good luncheon at that. This show is so personal. What did you get for lunch then. Then we will, wish you would. I assume Uber is bringing it. I've never had anything delivered by Uber, and I'm proud. Not really anything to be proud of. It is. It is sticking it to the man. Like being too lazy to do something is definitely not being something you should. If I want my food, I will go get it. I mean again, that really is something you should be proud of. Never somebody bring you your food.

Well, I mean you, of course. I mean, when when is the last time you've seen your a caviar guy? I mean, is he been around lately? Dude, I don't eat caviar. I don't have any money. I'm poor. I keep telling you this. And speaking inside spaceships. Well, maybe. But the spaceships loaded up with virtual caviar. At least. Well. Okay. The name of one of my spaceships is caviar. See? There you go. If you find the, caviar ship in, Star Citizen.

Good. people use, like, photon torpedoes and shit, and, like 5G. Gene, it's the assassin. Oh, it's actually the caviar is going to be parked, next to as close as I can get to the show without getting shot. I usually do that. I usually park caviar right outside the gates so people can see it and go, ooh, what a nice ship. Exactly. Yeah. Caviar is another one of those limited edition ships that not a whole lot of people have. Now, can somebody steal that from you in this game?

I mean, you could be pirates. Somebody. Really? No. They can. I mean, they theoretically could take it, but I can just claim insurance on that. So it's not a big deal. Just. Right. Just claim insurance on your virtual spaceship. Yeah. Now, does that get you back? Have insurance? Yes. So that way if somebody is able to take it, you press a button in, it's back. Correct. So if somebody can go for a joyride in caviar. Yeah. Some interesting game you're playing there. yeah. That's the game.

Sure is. The game. And you got the virtual reality headset. you're all, involved in this, world. You know, I could tell you, like, look at this, man. I'm flying through space. It's real. It's feels very real. I don't miss not playing, Or I don't miss playing video games. Okay, I'm going to check out. So make sure everybody listens to the, Dude Named Ben podcast with Gene called. Yeah, just the good old boys. The digital thing. Ben podcast with Dean. Yeah.

He's he's kind of put himself up there a little bit more. Hey, could I ask? That's true, I don't mind. I tell them, you know, it's, I'm happy to be the sidekick or the podcast, if that makes him happy, know he's the youngster. So if it brings in more of the kids who just want to hear about angry old Texans. Yeah, like it's not that old. But yeah, John Dvorak yesterday said if you're over 50, you shouldn't wear jeans. And I'm like, well, what would you wear?

Should I go outside without pants on? Really? Who's gonna put really up pants is is definitely an option, right? Yeah. Like, no. I mean, if I can't wear jeans, I mean, what? No pants, I guess is a lot more comfortable. But I don't understand if I said no jeans thing because you can wear jeans till you're dead. As far as I'm concerned. But I guess. Yeah. Willy's still. You might be more likely to wear sweatpants or something,

right? Yeah. Sweat. Okay. Sweatpants would probably be worse than jeans. So you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm imagining John doing his show in his sweatpants. Look, but jeans are comfortable. jeans are comfortable for, like, going outside pants. They're not necessarily the most comfortable pants. Why are you. I mean, not inside pants. I mean, who wears pants inside? Not. There's no I mean, shorts. I don't know, they wear a shirt, but, you know, not them. This is the Winnie the Pooh thing.

Yeah, exactly. Oh, brother. I seem to have lost my pants. I don't think you the Pooh, owns a pair of pants. Oh, bother. He doesn't. Those any pants? Horrible. Somebody buy Pooh some pants? Yeah. He's okay, he's fine. Yeah. I mean, if I'm not leaving the house, I don't put up. Good. He good? Plenty of shorts. Yeah. Why would you? Yeah. I mean, it's like that would be. Just seem like it would be insane. Hey, I just remembered we got, Adam and Tinas wedding this weekend. Adam and Tina's wedding?

Yeah. This weekend? Yeah. I did not know that. How did I not know? I assume it's not a secret. Just. Wow. Okay. there might be a wedding this weekend. this. Yeah, they're they're doing a, reenactment since I missed the original one because I had to fly out to Seattle. Oh, so they're doing it just for you? That's. They've been nice, and they've to redo their wedding with me there, because otherwise, it didn't count. If jeans, not their. I mean, who else is gonna happen to happen?

Yeah. Who else is bringing the caviar? In the case of the, Oh, they get their wedding gift. I'm not bringing it a second time. No, if you're. I mean, if you're doing the thing, you got to do the thing. I mean, if they reenacted the thing, even though I missed the thing, I still did the thing. You have to reenact the gift. The, the reenacting is for the thing that I missed. Not for the thing I read that I don't understand. I think you have to reenact the gift, too. Now, you're right.

You don't have Sam, I just don't I don't understand. No. Hopefully all the rain clears out, man. You guys been getting socked lately? We have. And. Holy shit. Houston, we got hit hard. they got windows knocked out in the buildings and everything. They had over 100 mile an hour winds. It's probably climate change. And there's no like, from what I can tell you made. This is not like some tropical storm coming in. This is just normal weather. Wind. Well, it's obviously global warming.

If this is just your new normal hundred mile an hour wind. well, would be good with bills if they worked. Yeah, I don't think that they run them on. It's more than like 30 mile an hour wind. Well, no, because they would fly off the air. Yeah, yeah. Have you seen, you know, those things shake apart and far. I've seen a video of that. Yeah. I wouldn't want to be around it. It's. No, you got a thing. you know, it's spinning. The tips are going like 60, 70 miles an hour.

And, that's a normal wind speeds because the tips actually move faster than the speed of the wind. And, I can't imagine that a hundred mile an hour wind with those things would be doing other than crashing and burning. And that's one way for it to go. The I saw another video that had like it showed pictures of the windmill graveyard. They don't want anyone to see me because all of these pieces are not biodegradable and they only last one hour. What? The carbon fiber. Of course.

They're going to last me tens of thousands of years. But the average windmill, what lasts about ten years? I mean, what is the lifespan in Texas? I believe it's five and a half years. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah, Ben would know for sure because he's worked in that industry. But they don't last very long. They all have generators at the bottom to make sure that they stop producing power when there's no wind. It's a stupid ass idea. Is the stupidest thing in the world.

And Texas, one thing they line and sinker, hook, line and sinker on this whole thing because, they want it to be green. We have more windmills in California. It's nuts. Is totally nuts. Then he got the solar panels. And if you get a good like, oh, yeah, we got a ton of those. Yeah. Does what we do get that. And we also have windstorms. Neither one is particularly good for solar panels without the several sandstorms is what I meant to say. Oh yeah.

Well, because you take the nice shiny gloss off of them and all of a sudden it's like, Yeah. I mean, anybody that watches NASCAR knows what happens during the race as just the grit from the track hits the windshield. What do you think's happening to your solar panel? Yep. In a sandstorm. But we didn't think of that. Like, I think solar panel roofs and houses make a lot of sense because you need a roof. No matter what, Troy, you're going to have something there.

So if you can have a roof that has solar panels, like the one that Elon Musk sells, that makes sense. It's not cheap, but it makes sense. But specifically, buying up land in order to put nothing but solar panels on it is just idiotic. Now, what did you were doing something with the solar panels, right? If you have the panels on your roof, one. As you said, it's not cheap, but how much time were even in Texas where you're getting a little bit more sun? I'm guessing that here in Chicago.

Oh, quite a bit. How much time does it take for those things to be paid off and are actually paying you back? And what is the lifespan of them to where you have to buy them again and start the whole thing over? Yeah. so roughly it's all estimates, right. But, one of my buddies, actually selling these things, so the, the, they start basically generating money for you, like, covering all your electrical bills.

If you put sufficient amount on your roof, obviously, but usually, the, they will pay for whatever electricity you use at night after about a week and a half. So you're getting about two and a half weeks of free electricity. They're now in terms of out for the cost, that you paid for installation materials, all that stuff. their break even point is going to be right around 12 years or so. That is insane. Now, they they're supposedly last for 30.

Realistically, no one's going to keep it more than 15. So by the time you hit 12 years, they're paid off and you'll probably have three years of everything is absolutely after that, right? Oh yeah. The capacity goes down every year. Yeah. So by the time three years comes a be like okay, it's bonus time. But it's yeah, the end result is you're really getting a great deal. The, the benefit of them isn't that you're getting, electricity for free.

The benefit of them is you're getting electricity when the grid goes down for a short period of time. Well, if you have a Tesla wall, they don't need anything else. You can literally be off the grid even if you're in the neighborhood. True. Or get a generator. I mean, he could do that. Yeah. Oh, yes. If you want to give me a Ford truck into your house right. Yeah. You want to get a generator and be like one of them guys? yeah. It's always fun to see.

Like, the guys think it's going to be funny to have a Tesla that's plugged into a generator. That's telling the. I made some art like that the other day. I thought it was funny. I have a big smoking generator hanging off the back of the, Cybertruck or whatever they're calling it. Yeah, yeah. Might work. Let me see the picture of the Cybertruck that is completely rusted. Yeah. Was that real? No, no, no, that was a, Well, it.

Yes and no. It is real in the sense that somebody actually created that and put vinyl on their real truck. So their truck does look like that, but it's not actual rust. Got it. I mean, the it looks pretty damn good. Yeah. If you want to know how the Seattle area works with solar panels. Well, it does it. Yeah. But you have a hydro. You could just go and get water. They have metro.

We have, well, I guess in the Seattle area, they, they have a little bit of, or in Washington state anyway, they have a little bit of, what do you call when the ground is hot, when the ground is hot, thermal power or whatever. Yeah. If you got, you know, some volcanic activity underneath the, yeah. Well, yeah, it's way easier, though, just to put it like Iceland's mostly using that. Put those volcanoes to work. Yeah. Geothermal. Thank you. Geothermal. There you go. Thank you for calling.

It's all bullshit. Like we don't need any of that. All we need is nuclear. Well, nuclear does everything you need it to do. It does gives you unlimited power. Almost. Yep. Very cheap. Yeah. The only costs really of nuclear are costs created by the government. You can have regulatory costs. Miners working day and night. I mean, I don't know why you want to, but you could sure for Bitcoin okay. You could have more Bitcoin I mean you'd be better off buying low and selling high.

But okay. To be a Bitcoin billionaire. Yeah I mean you do you say that. But you went the other route. You bought high 67,000. No I didn't buy high but I never bought this high man I think my highest that I bought was at like 51. So you finally got into where you're making money though. But I also bought a bunch of like 30. It's time to get out, so I'm going to crash. You think I, I'm not getting that. I'm, I'm a buying whole guy.

Someday, though, Bitcoin will be worth as much as baseball cards back. I mean, the fun part of that is it's up and then it's down and then it's up and then it's down with anything. The question is when to sell. And there's some of the stuff we got and it's like, well, and if you're if you're trying to do this professionally, it's not, when do you sell? It's a sell every single day. Yeah. It's a daily. So you're making money on the up and you're making money in the down if you do it right.

I don't do that. I just hold you're a hold of. Yeah, I'm lazy. So CSB would tell you to do. He wants to keep the bitcoin forever. Till as well. And I everything or nothing said that I don't anticipate selling until it's worth a million. It'll get there any day now a million. The coin. now I think Adam would tend to think more of the way that I do, but I'm pretty sure Tina has a number much lower, whether it's going to be liquidated when she's going to sell. Yeah, exactly.

That'd be like, nope, this is it. It's never going up. I would say, well, we better get out. This is this looks like the end. Well, the question will be when the government finally screws it up, because that is the most likely route that it will go. Yeah, I don't know, man. I think as long as they get their taxes, it's all I care about. I think at some point they're going to want the tracking and everything else that they're going to be like, well, no, no, we could do this better.

But when doesn't the government go yeah, no, no, we can do this better. Well and they, they likely will do that, that the current U.S currency will be transitioned to a, digital currency that is set up similar to Bitcoin, but with some other provisions. But the idea of having a public ledger like that is something that a lot of people want. Like you want that level of track ability because then nobody can launder money in Bitcoin.

There is no money laundering unless you, employ some other folks that are going to hold your money like, you know, all this, idea of, like, well, send money through us, and then we'll we're we're just going to charge you 5%. Okay? But there's a trail of money going to you and a trail of money going from you to me. All right. This is the concept, though, behind the people that run the mixers that they call them. Where to go? You want to hide where the funds came from?

Well, you said it through a mixer. It's like, okay, I'm sending $1,000 to you. And the rose is the mixer. So I send him $1,010, and on the other eye and $1,000 goes from him to you. So there's no direct connection. But as you said, it doesn't take a figure out. The only way to do it well would be to use, sat SATs are more or less liquid. I mean, they're they're less traceable because you're, you're just shoveling tiny little amounts of money all over the place.

Wasn't there are systems like Monero that don't track in the same way, and they don't have the ledger, but of course, that's why they're trying to get those removed. But that's also why Bitcoin I think, is the only real digital currency. Everything else is just shit grains is because it does have the ledger, got the ledger. There's a lot of those coins that are just sitting there.

I it's always fun to think about the people that had oh, I had 5000 coins and I didn't think they were worth nothing. And I don't remember how I had them. Yeah, I had like three, which is still enough to be like, fuck. But if you had like 5000, you'd be like, fuck, that'd be way fuck that be yes or yeah. And and it's, they didn't go up fast enough to prevent me from throwing away the computer that they were on. Right. It took enough time like they were.

They were worth a few cents when I mined them. And they were worth maybe $0.10. Well, I threw the computer away, and you're like, this is nothing I don't have to worry about back in this shit. I, I mean, I don't think I yeah, I probably didn't back up, but but also, I just didn't go out of my way to save that shit because, you know, computers crash. And after a while you get to that point where you're like,

you know, this thing's crashed and I kind of need new computer anyway. So and all my important stuff's backed up, so I don't even need to worry about booting this one. I just need to throw it away. Just move on. Move on. Yeah, I get it. You got to put all the money in the spaceship. Imagine the spaceships you could have if you had those three Bitcoin I know. Right? Spaceship money. I always laugh and I know our spaceships. Really any different than Bitcoin? No. Not really.

Or any kind of merchandise or collectible or, anything like that. I do, even though it's all fiat currency, no matter how you slice it, even though it's a really false equivalence, you know, there are people that are like, hey man, back in the day I bought a pizza with 25,000 Bitcoin. Yeah, yeah yeah. And that's like, well that's worth multiple billions of not trillions of dollars by now.

I don't people I mean not with that much, but I certainly know people that were trying to spend bitcoin back when Bitcoin was like ten bucks. Like it's finally worth something right now I can start spending it. It went way up. Yeah. Well I don't think people thought I don't think many people thought that something that has a name coin in it would be worth $67,182. No, it wasn't even I the figure for people to be thinking about it. No, this 2000 sats from that net. Who says boosting. So Jim.

Goodbye. The good ship lollipop. Oh that's nice. Probably be about enough for that. roll thousand Satoshi out of zero, add a few zeros. Yeah. Although it would be a great ship name. The good ship lollipop. I'm pretty sure somebody has that name. Marie the good. You can only have one person with a name. you have to get it first. That was, that's why I have caviar. Caviar? that. Could you just sell the name? Could you do that? This is like domain, that's all. The name.

I don't think you can sell named bastards. I don't know the, good ship lollipop. Was that a song from, Shirley Temple? Was that, like, going way back? Right. I think that the lollipop is from a song, but I don't think there's a ship in her song up. No, there is a good ship lollipop. Something with the candy shop. There was a song, man. are you sure? Yeah. My musical knowledge is second to none. Well, maybe a few.

But I know what has to be dangerous for pirated music or what other kind of music is there? It's like spaceships. Why would you do anything? A pirate on the Good Ship Lollipop is a song composed by Richard Winning, with lyrics by Stanley Clear. In 1934. See you. There you go. My musical knowledge goes at least back to 1934. Yeah. Was it recorded by, Shirley Temple? That's the question. Yeah, sure. It's Shirley Temple. There you go. The original Taylor Swift. The. Exactly.

And we all know how she ended up doing. Not very well, I'm guessing. I don't remember these drugs. They all not drugs like Marilyn Monroe. A lot of, a lot of people, when they've got fucked by the president. Well, who doesn't every today we all get used to that. Not literally and figuratively. Oh, I got you. I got you, I, me today, literally. We all get fucked by the president.

Thanks, Joey. Yeah. I mean, if Joey was not screwing you, Gene, just think of how many more spaceships you could buy, and then you could buy more wedding presents. Virtually. Yeah, virtually. Hey, maybe they'd like a spaceship. Yeah, maybe they would like a spaceship. That's a good idea. I should start giving spaceships to people. Give it. Give it a good name and be like, here's the spaceship. I like we prefer cash. You don't want blankets? Okay. No, I'm on a spaceship.

We've got a beautiful spaceship. It's a beautiful thing. Good ship. Lollipop. I'm not a big not a big spiel today, but by the next show, we'll change that. We need a different, Maybe, but, yeah, I need to do, like, a, CSB voice for anything over, you know, whatever. We figured five, 10,000 Satoshis have, like, a CSB voice going, like, you got the money. That would be pretty good to CSB. You want to record that for us? Yeah, we we'll share it with everybody. He's very shy. I don't know why.

Yeah, I know I've, I've, I constantly don't know why people are shy that are shy. I just talked to another guy I play video games with. And I was like, you know, I invited you to have lunch and you blew me off. Oh, and, what's the deal with that? And he doesn't live here anymore. But back then, he used to live here. Well, he's like, yeah, Jean, I moved four years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm like, well, I have to move to run away from, you know, he he's like, well, I've got some anxiety.

I'm like, but get over it. Is he addicted to video games? I mean, they could be a part of that class action. I mean, I don't know, he plays video games. I don't know if he's addicted to video games, but, like, what the hell kind of excuse the social anxiety? What the fuck is that? I think everybody has social anxiety, but it's usually by interacting with children in real life, throughout grade school and high school, you're supposed to figure out how to interact with your fellow man. But today.

But I think it's playing a fucking video game with somebody for ten fucking years. How do you have social anxiety? Because they're not in the same room. There are people that are like, cares, I oh my God, I mean, I'm with to return it. I am with you. But there's a lot of people are like, that's not reality. You're your voice. On the other end of that is like, you may as well be an I to that I'm am I what do you care? You put the thing that in real life it's like, oh, this is different.

I have to go out in the real world and see you, oh my God, and interact with other people. There's a lot of people like that. And I think it is because of the screen addiction and kids not learning to interact with other humans in the way that we did growing up. And this is really going to be hitting more and more because there's that every generation. Now, this is well, luckily, the rabbit rabbit. Yeah, they won't have to interact with anybody because, the new AI sounds very, appealing.

so you're talking about me? Oh, that was Mickey Mouse more than a female voice. But you can definitely Mickey Mouse. And. No, don't bring that little boy. Everybody animal in here. Oh, boy. I love the unrelenting podcast. It is the best. Yeah, I just don't prefer pedophiles. Not listen to us. I didn't say she was crazy. I said she's fucking goofy. Okay? We don't need bestiality in here either. I don't see how you think that's better. As says I, I am not shy. Only my voice is off the record.

Well thank you CSB yes. Is that shy? Yes. You will talk your ear off. Yeah. So yeah, if you get feedback. Yes. The vagina jitsi be ready. You might want to have a, colostomy bag sitting ready in a few extra gallons of water so you can stay hydrated. but an interesting conversation. You will have. Yeah, that much is guaranteed. You got anything, exciting going on this weekend? Oh, wait. You're going to a, a wedding? allegedly, yes. Yeah. And then we'll be back next week for another show.

I mean, as much of a show as this, actually, to see why the show and having them say no, just didn't know if you were going to make it back or if there was another, spaceship sale or something like you. No. There's so many things that could be your option that we're going to have. We probably will have, likely we'll have to do like, the, Well, either we'll skip a show or we'll record something for the time is next month. I'm, fly out to see my dad in Seattle.

And the question is, will you bring a gaming laptop? And the question is, why are you bringing a laptop? But even if I do, I probably shouldn't record a podcast and ignore him. Yeah, that would be rude. I'd rather ignore him while playing video games. Unless you could bring him into the room and he could tell us about you. Were definitely not gonna do that. Let me tell you about little Gene. yeah, but we got the eels. The, the those stories would not be pleasant there for me. Yeah, I do. You.

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