114: Aural Excitement

Oh, look at that. Yeah, let me show you. Good morning. Jim. Good morning. Unrelenting. 114. We thought we were relenting today for a minute. I know right. For those of you not being entertained, live. Gene overslept and is coming in about a half hour late, so it'll be about a 90 minute show for today. he was up late posting satanic messages on the X. If it's not a five minute video of that little cutey Christian chick who was like, Taylor Swift is satanic man.

And then there's a five minute video that never talks about Taylor Swift being satanic. Except I know, right? That's the whole point. It's like, what the hell is the matter with you? Well, this is called clickbait. I love that it was like when my dad and I used to watch Beyoncé videos and look at the imagery, it's like, you know, they're not the same person. I mean, she's like, they like, they're all interchangeable. They kinda are pop stars. One pop tart to another.

It's all the same. Yeah. And I thought about it, though, and some of the music that I was, just playing for the pre trolls, I'm like, if Taylor Swift did have satanic imagery in her music, I would probably completely miss it because a few of the songs I played, one of them were from Hank Williams, the third, one of my favorite artists, is called on long hauls and close calls, but the, chorus goes the devil is my friend, the devil is my friend. The devil is my friend.

And I'm thinking, well, Taylor is not going to be that out in the open with the, satanic part. And do you really think that these are because I grew up. You grew up in the 1980s. I remember there was a show, and I think it was on like one of the high UHF channels, but I'm guessing this may have been national or these things were probably going on around the country.

there was a some kind of preacher who had a weekly show talking about Satanism in music and playing shit backwards and all the, you know, the backwards. A lot of that. And I remember a distinct show, but there's a lot of that growing out. There's a lot of records played backwards in the 80s. Yes. Oh yeah, that was bigger. And we forget the fact that the Beatles were doing it in the 60s. Nobody in that's oh, that's backwards masking, you know what, subliminal messaging.

And they're hiding all this stuff and they're trying to brainwash the youth. Right, right, right. And I'm like, well, this is just a good marketing gimmick for the band. Just like I've listened to music all the. I think it was a way to sell albums because you can't do it with an audiotape. And it's interesting, you know, these bands that really were popular that leaned into it like Motley Crue, shout at the Devil, Yeah yeah Yeah. Like, you really think these guys are Satanists?

It's like, no, it's a shtick. It's the now, I don't know what it's conjuring up in the netherworld. No, I think the Satans would have kicked them out. Yeah, like you guys are fucking bouncers. Yeah. It's like Satanists don't want, like, drugged out, lazy sleeping. All they call nine podcasters for, right? Hey, now it's like, Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Satanists don't want Russians. That's correct. There are no Russian Satanists. They're like, this is very interesting.

Like, yes, it is a way to sell records, just like people like, kid Rock. I know people who know him personally. They're like, he's just the nicest normal guy. What. He's not honest. I've heard that from everybody, you know. So it's interesting. It's like it's a shtick. It is a character that is being played somebody who's not a nice guy. I think he plays somebody that is a little edgier that himself. Yeah. Don't you think I mean that's the kid Rock that's in the public persona.

Not a really sort of almost an asshole outside of him. It's nice guy. Yeah I mean I like his music. I'm not even a fan of his music all that much, but I just every interview and stuff I've seen, he seems very nice because he's a rare conservative in the music business. But, yeah, maybe that's why he's not like a trying to be a musician. He's got real money. Oh, he does now. Yeah. And he made it by not being a real musician. That's the beauty of it.

It's like, well you just put some things together. Yeah. Well this is the stage. I'm like Gene Simmons of the State of Music today is interesting. There's a guy who sells a how to play by ear. Cause I guess that's how he started out. All that shit's irrelevant at this point. I got it loaded with music. Well, this is why the guy whose name that does the YouTube videos you probably run across because you're on YouTube 34 hours a day. I kind of am. Yeah. Rick. Beato.

Beato. Yeah, I watch him and he what he does the. Let's look at the top ten songs on Spotify. Sometimes they are so painfully bad. and he's like, well, there's really no chorus here. Even there's really nothing going on at all. But this is the most popular music in the land now, and I think it's getting that way because either I was already writing a lot of this stuff. It's not unique. It is so much and this is the one thing. It's all derivative. Yes. And this is why. What makes him happy?

What makes a song stand out is when something happens in the song that he wasn't expecting. Yeah, there was a song that he did a video of. I'm trying to remember what it was, but something from the 70s, which was a pop song. And, it uses not a single normal chord, like they're all like, you know, no, no major chord. No. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's it was like E sharp seventh and from that going to like, a F minor. Yeah. I was like, that's minor seven. This shouldn't work together.

And I can't remember the name of the song is, but, I don't he played it. He had this big grin on his face. Well, it's when you're surprised. In music, that means the song writer did something you that did something spectacular at this point. Yeah, yeah, because that's the problem with a and it was a one hit wonder guy two. It was like, that was the one and only song from that artist. Like he made the charts. Like, how did you hear that? It didn't know any better.

That was just I just sit down and start strumming on the guitar. But when you think about it, a lot of the most popular songs follow a formula. So I like, you know, doing the text, writing the same thing. It's like, well, here's what I'm seeing. I'm seeing patterns and I'm just going to repeat those patterns. And it's like, but they've been done. yeah, every song has been done. There's a great video from, Australian or a New Zealand, I can't remember which big three chords.

And he sings like 50 songs. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Because three chords are enough. Because people forget. I think he of awesome Bay band, but that's the melody and that we it just, the other night watched the documentary on the late, great guy Clark, who has always been one of my favorite songwriters is Texas Guy. And when you look at the music itself, very simplistic chords. It's the lyrics and the melody.

You can play the same three chords in every song you do, and have it be a completely different song, but it takes some, creativity and it takes being able to write a melody and craft the words into something beautiful rather than just blah kind of vanilla stuff. That, axis of awesome. That's what it is. The new Taylor Swift album, for instance, all very much non-organic music, which I don't like. I mean, the lyrics may be great, but it all sounds like background music.

It all sounds like one long song, which means, oh really? Yeah, it's very hard for that. You may like it because I know you like a lot of that kind of stuff, you know? It's that kind of. It's that kind of pop music that is, you know, kind of like one long song through the whole album and you're like, whoa. Was there was there was that. That was like three hours. Was that one song? Was that three, five, 20? What was that? Did I like, oh my God, this is your sneaky way of trying to get me.

Listen to the, the details. Well, the Satanist have to do something probably that like her. You're gonna like it. You're gonna love it. When you said that about one of the last albums, you're like, I was surprised. This is more like, whatever artist you sell. I mean, that's the thing. It's like, I don't think her music is bad. I just like it shouldn't be anywhere near as popular as it is. Oh, well, that much is. It just. It's just sort of, you know, popcorn music about boyfriends.

Yeah. I do not get that part. So, I mean, I'm with you that maybe there's some really good subliminal messaging going on because there's a lot of artists. I think somebody did a video on her recently. I didn't watch the video, I just saw the title, but it was something like, Taylor Swift 30 years of being a ten year old or something like that. There's a lot of haters.

Well, no, but it's not, the the subtext was that she, she's stuck in that ten year old pre-teen girl mode where she's starting to become interested enough in boys to be attracted to, but they're still icky. And, and so all these songs about failed relationships really hit it with that crowd because their relationships last three days. Oh, yeah. Well, that's right. That's, Well, I know this in high school. It's a little longer than three days. Should be at least a month. Right. That you done?

She was like, yeah. I mean, it's like, dude, a year used to last like a decade, right? You go back to high school. Come on. Time did not fly. No. It was like you're looking at the school year like, oh my God, another eight months of this shit. That was the interesting thing though, when you look at like AC, DC, every song is about sex. I mean, it doesn't matter whether these guys are 18 or 80, they're still going in that. So you can put them in that same category that they haven't really. It is.

Well, I agree that it's not adult music, dude. That has been the depending what is adult music, but it's adult music. That's stuff that's on NPR. That what you listening to the NPR specials. That's very interesting. But I don't understand the, the overall insanity. And I've said that before. It's like and people can't separate the fact of but here's the thing.

If it wasn't for nostalgia, there would be no musicians capable of making money over about 25 because we're we're buying shit from the 80. Well, I'm buying shit from the these because or I should say that of the musicians I heard the 80s, not necessarily their old albums, but it is because of nostalgia, not because it's good. Well, there's another weird thing about music, which is for most people, what you liked. Isn't that it? You're right.

It's in that age when you were in maybe pre high school, up through college age, the artists that you liked, then are always going to be your favorite artists. That's a that's not an opinion. That's actually been determined by psychologists. As I've read that before, that your music taste for the rest of your life get set. between junior high and about college years. That's it. Like, if you don't have a favorite style of music by then, you're not a music person.

Like in the intriguing thing, there would be the artists that then capitalize on that. The Rick Beato video I watched last night, which was the latest top ten on Spotify. Two of the songs were from Taylor Swift. I'm surprised all ten Warren but I know, right? He's like, oh, this has a really big 80s vibe to it. And I'm like, well, this is how she's pulling that larger audience is because, you know, the new kids, they're like, oh, well, this is new to me.

I have no fucking idea that it's 80s influenced at all. But you're getting that past generation as well. Exactly. You're you're hitting on something there. And this is what I liked about, Ellen's ex-wife. yeah. What's her name? do you know what I'm talking about? The one that he had a couple of kids with. I know that she was a singer. I don't know her name. Yeah, yeah, I still singer, but, you know, she's kind of goofy. got a weird vibe going on about her.

And, apparently I watched the video of somebody totally hating on her and how she's Ellen. Just ruined her. And she's no longer a good musician. And, I think what changes she got kids, you know, but she's a mom. But, I, I like a lot of her stuff. I'd never heard of her before. It's. I don't go out exploring weird, quirky music genres, but it's got a lot of very 80s vibe to it. And I was like, okay, I can see why Ellen fucked this chick. Billy Bones, said Grimes.

Is that the Grimes? Yes. Grimes. Exactly. because Ellen's h. And he's like, oh, I can't. I like to see it in music. Yeah, I think I'll fuck this chick and then have a couple of kids with her. because he doesn't that he doesn't believe in, in, having a serial harem. The latest list of the most richest person in every state just came out. Are you mad that Elon moved in and took you off that spot in Texas? As the richest man in Texas? Texas is a state.

We have eight billionaires, which is not very many here. yeah, 45 billion. So it's yeah, there's being a billionaire and then there's just showing off. There's a lot of billionaires that are over 100 million that it's it's kind of getting ridiculous that the, the value of dollar is gone down so much. Now that's the way to think about it. Sounds like they're getting richer. The dollar is just getting worthless. True that 178 billion is like what was 100,000 last week. Pretty much exactly.

But the 80s vibe definitely there. And I think a lot of that, you know, we should be able to play Grimes on our podcast. I think the issue now, most of these artists are not playing instruments. It's all computer created, which leads to that 80s vibe which they were playing synthesizers and all that. But yeah, there were a lot of sun sets in the 80s. You know, you actually had people playing them rather than I think most of the things now are just programed in.

but the AI music thing, I mean, you sent the signal that whatever it was. Com maybe. Yeah. Introduce you to it and I just ran a few things through it. And as that gets better, it's going to be interesting because you have very little control. You give it the lyrics, you kind of give it a genre, and you hope that it hits on something that you like in the. They need to work on the vocal quality, because that doesn't sound real yet, but that's 90% of the way there.

you can understand the words, but it sounds. I think you're full of shit. I think it sounds 99%. There. I think when you're maybe for heavy metal, it doesn't sound like the heavy metal guys because it started screaming as loud. But for maybe the music I was doing, which was mostly country music, it totally sound. I mean, it's there's like 1% that you can tune if you listen, tell something's off, but it is 99% there. If it comes on style master.

Well, this is where now when you start giving people control, where you can go in, they'll say you a, you know, songwriter. Well, you can write your lyrics and then you can with once you can start giving it the, the chord structure and the melody structure and then just letting this play the music for you. Yeah. Musicians you're going to be looking at, finding another job at least not being needed, which is great for people like me. And I've always written songs.

I pulled a guitar out for the first time in, like, ten years. So, it's been a while. So this, this I software a website that makes the vision irrelevant, get you to pull out a guitar. That's great, I did. That's hilarious. Pulled out shit, man. Maybe I need to, like, dust off the dust off my keyboard. There you go. Get the band together. Man, I had a bad back. Yeah, I pulled out my Tacoma, DF 18. Beautiful guitar, laminated top, which was not the. I am not on the guitar for so many years.

No, we've got a nice Gibson too. And an electric guitar. I sent me an ovation and I like the acoustics. I moved away from the the electric to the acoustic because it's like, I like just sitting around strumming. And I'm really in the songwriting way more interested in writing songs like Guy Clark and Townes Van Zandt rather than anything pop related.

But with that said, when you're able to I don't know if we're anybody does this yet, but if I can sit down and record a demo, just vocal and guitar, or feed that into an AI that then turns it into a fully band, you know, drum and be the drums in a year. I think that's actually been around for a while. I think there's software like that. because, where it takes a, a tune and then orchestrates it. D that would be interesting.

Now, I this morning I watch the video in that it's taking the musicians right out of it, but it lets you as an individual, create something that is more than just the guitar and vocal. Although when it comes down to it, all you need is guitar and vocal to have a good song. I mean, that's relative, but what is it? Well, if you like country music, then I think that puts you there. Now, if you like pop music, you know, I just, I think there's more to a good song than just that.

Like a good song has to be a good song. Well, yes. Yeah, that's to be well written and well played and it work stripped down. It doesn't have to be. That's how you also know. yeah. Yeah, yeah. We. Yeah. You just need an instrument and a voice. for the most, you know, American style music. Yeah. And now we know that you can have the voice fixed. It can auto tune, it can change pair chicken, bake, whatever. Yeah, there's a there's also, bunch of channels that do analysis of, singers and sugar.

100% of the people are out of tune right now. Literally 100%. Nobody's not at all tuning. It's the studio. I mean, that's in them comparing that to voices of the past. And there was a video watch that was called, there will never be another Judy Garland. So yeah. Where the where there. And, you know, they're basically looking at the, the, the wave pattern. Right.

The raw audio. Yeah. The raw wave pattern on an analyzer of the the voice, the singing and it, it is so obvious that everything is out of tuned because everything hits the edge of the actual correct notes, even if there's some fluttering afterwards. And you look at these really good but old singers that clearly were not out of tuned. Right. And none of them, none of them hit the exact note. All of them are off. you know, it may be 1 in 10 notes that they actually hit right on the dot.

The other nine are off, but they're still considered great singers. Right. Well, now, what we have are people through out of tuning that are not great singers, but are very accurate singers because we're out of tune.

Well, and it's interesting because even before auto tune, as the the technology came to being when once we hit multi-track recording, and I'm sure this is true of a lot of artists, but I remember reading something back in the day about Steven Tyler cutting a song, and the producer said, you know, the guy sings the song like 50 times, and they literally cherry pick the best word out of each track to make the final one.

So what you may be hearing if somebody's singing living on a prayer, you know, I'm sorry, that's Bon Jovi, not, Steven Tyler, but each one of those words may be taken from a different cut and splice together, which, while not auto tuning, you're kind of doing the same thing. You're getting it until you just sing that word, until you get it right. Sure, sure. Well, and that's been done for a long time.

I think it's weird because the it's the quest for perfection that just doesn't have to be there. And I think that's another reason why a lot of this new music does not grab people in a emotional way is because it sounds too polished and too perfect, and there's no it sucks the emotion right out of it. It does, I agree. it's I think when you're dealing with electronic instruments, it which can be perfect if the voice isn't, if it's more obvious. Also true.

You know, there's I think if you're listening to anybody's garage band, I think there's less difference in the imperfection of the instrument playing versus the singing. If you're listening to somebody in the studio, like, the instruments are going to be right out because they're going to be mirrored. That's a different vibe. And if it even if it's an acoustic guitar or something, or an electric guitar, they're essentially out of tuned. You may be off, but it'll be right on the.

And if they're not out of tune, they're still quantized. That's been going that's been on for like 30 years. Musicians have been quantizing because it all depends on what the musician is going for. But yeah, this anything that's produced is going to have a more pro sound to it. Yeah. May have talked about this.

My buddy Tom, who recorded a bunch of stuff here when he went to I had a drummer buddy add the drums to it, and then they took that multi-track to a producer that had worked with Brian Wilson. Mellencamp, so took it to a professional dude. and he was showing him this stuff like, oh, well, here. Okay, so the drum came in, you know, 1/1000 of a second too early. So let's just move that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, holy clap. Yeah. You know that guitar okay.

Yeah. You were like one, you know, a semitone below what you wanted there. Okay. We'll just pull that up fixed it up. Yep. It's like magic. Yeah. And the art, they used to do it manually. Now software will do it for you. It's like just click make it better or whatever better means. And that's why there's such a drive to lip sync in live performances. Because you don't want to disappoint people. You don't want your albums.

They bought those, they showed up to the show, and then they realized you actually suck. Yeah, there were a lot of artists who do not have the singing chops, including a young Taylor Taylor Swift. Yeah, exactly. She has gotten a lot better. But yeah, when she came out was like, she can't sing. And it was always funny to me because as a country songwriter, it's gotten way better at lip syncing. She's gotten way better at singing. You've seen this in performances. Look at YouTube.

You can find out. Yeah, yeah, but I loved when people were like, she can't sing, she'll never make it. And I'm like, are you familiar with Neil Young? I love that. I'm curious if you're familiar with, you know, Springsteen. Are you familiar with. Oh. You're listening. All the people I can't sing that do not sing technically. Well, I mean, it's fair. yeah, I agree, I don't like the singing style of either of those guys, you know, and it's like Neil Young, you know Bob Dylan. Not a good singer.

Oh my god he's a horrible speaker. Forget singer. He could barely speak man but he writes a hell of a Yeah. Really? I think he may be giving Joe Biden diction lessons. Now, I know, I know, right? Yeah. And and, like, it's not even an accent thing because I've been to Hibbing, man. I've vacation there. People do not speak like Bob Dylan up there. this guy's, man. Yeah, it's it's, But he's a good writer, you know, he wrote good poetry. You know, Tom petty, not a classically good singer. Oh, yeah.

Horrible voice. He has a very thin voice. would never pass muster as a as a singer. What about Willie Nelson? He is in that on the cusp, I think, of creating his own kind of vocal genre style. I've heard you've heard Willie early stuff right before you found his niche. Yeah, I think that he was, right on the edge. He was definitely a second tier musician. he was that somebody that would be able to fill venues by himself.

And it wasn't until he kind of found his what he's been doing for the last 50 years that he started gaining attention because, his voice, yeah, it's on the thin side, if you know what I mean. Yeah, very nasally. And you can tell that if you if you hear him back in the day when he was playing with, Kris Kristofferson and, and Johnny Cash.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That man. Yeah. The guys that have good voices, And then here you hear, and Waylon and you hear, his voice is like, Well, this here doesn't belong in Willie's way up there, Johnny. Right? Johnny Cash and Waylon were down pretty low. Yeah, and I don't even know. Had Waylon had the most beautiful voice, it was so rich. I know, I know, Johnny has a unique, low voice, and I like his voice a lot. But if you compare him with Waylon, like Waylon had just better pipes.

Which is why Waylon got away with singing somebody. I mean, there's a song Waylon got, the Girl is Right. I, as the story goes, he can't just come at me like, like use electric bass. The dude. And it just the guy had them in. Hey, I mean, he was the voice of the, that good old boy, his show on TV, The Dukes of Hazzard. He was. Which is why everybody knows Waylon, even if you don't know well. And you're like, oh, that guy, but he was, a hell of a writer as well.

Change music more than a lot of people. No, because artists were not getting paid a whole lot. when Waylon sat down and was like, nope, not going to accept it, he kind of kicked out a lot of doors. It's an interesting story. Now. Well, he also was kind of a late in life to prominence. I mean, he played music his whole life with the crickets. Maybe. Yeah. He didn't really get get really start making money off until later in life. But he made up for it. Yeah. Yeah. That's that whole outlaw thing.

It was the whole anti Nashville country music which we need another really strong dose of that right now because the music Nashville. Yeah the the Nashville music is just you saw the the little clip I sent you Willie playing last week right. Yeah. From like the 70s 60s last week. Oh yeah. Well there was one that he was in concert. Now what he looks. Oh. But somebody. That's why he sent you. Yeah. There was also a video going around of him with. He still had short hair.

He was sitting at like a friend's house on the floor playing. And it's like, how far will he's come? But he has had a hell of a time. Yeah. No, the one I sent you was a buddy of mine. Went to his concert like, four days ago and shot a little clip. Yeah, we're Willie's now sitting down. He can't stand. Yeah, he's he's a 99 year old dude. So what do was just turned 91 or 91? Yeah. Whatever is. Smoked a lot of weed. Yeah. I think he's been fully, permeated. Willie.

the stories that he is told, you know, about the time his wife, sold him up in the bed and beat him with the broomstick. I mean, there's, a lot of good stories. That's one. Does. This one was right. Exactly. He lost all his money. The IRS took everything but his guitar. Well, he was like, screw you. I can build it up again. I'm Willie freakin Nelson, man. Yeah, cause he doesn't need more than one guitar. He's not one of these crazy rock and roll musicians, right?

He'll have, like, 30. Mark Knopfler just sold off, like, 30 or 50 guitars. And it's like, you realize you get to that point in life where you're like, I got way too many of this, you can only play one at a time. And with. Yeah, the technology again, as much as some people may hate it, back in the day, you needed a specific guitar through a specific amplifier, through specific chords, blessed in a certain way to get the sound.

It's all digital now. Yeah. Now you just plug it into your, you know, Apple computer and go, okay, this is why I think it's hilarious that people still buy vinyl albums. Oh, it's got that analog sound. Yeah, except all processed digitally before it's put on vinyl. Well, there was a big deal with Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs, who was one of these big vinyl houses, or I should say specialty vinyl houses that would take releases and rerelease them, remaster them.

And it came out that a part of their whole thing converted it to digital. And people went nuts. Of course. Yeah, people went nuts. I like vinyl for the nostalgia reason. I mean, that's that's like the only legitimate reason, in my opinion, is nostalgia. Because when you start talking about the sounds like, okay, if you're talking about vinyl made in the 1960s, maybe. Yeah, you're talking about vinyl made today, I can guarantee you with 100%.

There was a digital phase that this went through before it was printed in vinyl. When we're about 90, not not quite 100 because Jack white still out there. But I agree, it's a vast majority studio. I don't have analog gear anymore. Some do. Jack. Well, you'd have to find something that people haven't bought new equipment since the 80s and in the 80s when it started changing the literally in the 90s, you started getting more digital gear coming. What's the face? The name.

So, yeah, you just talked about he didn't sit on that. No no, no. Oh, Ricardo. Rick Beato did an episode on that. Yeah. The, Dave Grohl from the Foo Fighters bought one of those mixing boards with the recording gear from the one that liking on the, an analog shit breaks. Like, you have to keep replacing parts on it. It's not digital where you just turn it on and just work.

Yeah, the heads warehouse, the motors get fast and the speed is off, and you can't be off by 1/1000 of a, Everything's always off, you know? It's, Yeah. Which is why it's so hard to recreate some of this stuff because it's like, wasn't right. Yeah. Mechanically, one of the most difficult instruments to keep running all the time is a pipe organ. The. Oh, I can't imagine the whole damn thing's mechanical.

and it it relies on movement and blowers, and it just, it it's not a full time job, but there is a dude that the. Well, there's plenty of dudes whose full time job is servicing church organs for those churches that still have the old school traditional pipe organs at the big pipes. Yeah, I think, I used to take lessons at a church and a pipe organ. Really? So you know how to play the keys? Well, so I said I might have to dust off the keyboard at some point.

And I can only imagine the difference is when you sat down as a kid with probably a little Casio keyboard at home, than going into the church with like, the sound of God is, the whole building reverberates it. It is pretty intimidating, that's for sure. because especially when you're playing the base bells, because it's, yeah, it's a loud sound. The churches are made to have a lot of reverberation. Well, yeah, that's because it's usually the people that are singing there suck.

And the more reverb you get that. Well, enter it in. Frankly, your, usually during church service, it's full of people wearing clothing that absorbs sound. True. And when you're sitting there with your teacher and it's empty, then you could rock out with some Zeppelin. Yeah, I just, I, I'm sure there's a Jack black video of him rocking out at a church organ somewhere. I just can't imagine he didn't have a video like that. Right. but Jack white, they record stuff.

When people come in and do live, they record them direct to the lathe. So it's very interesting story, how the ultimate in, analog gear was trying to preserve that because there is something to be said for digital technologies. Sure. We'll think about something like Bruce Springsteen's record that was released in 1982. It must have been so right before born in the USA was Nebraska. Yeah. And it was recorded as demos on a four track. So it wasn't.

You're just straight out cassette recorder like you'd buy at the time. It was a four track, so little track back in the day, I do too. It's still in the closet here. The Tascam. Tascam. Yep, that's the one. Those things are a lot of fun. So you take your cassette tape and it only goes one way. So you get four tracks. You normally would have stereo on each side. This is four tracks going in one direction.

And if you were smart, you sped it up because if you did it, the normal cassette speed, the frequency response was only so good, but you wanted to go faster. But that meant like a 90 minute tape gave you 20 minutes. So yeah, you know, it went really, really quick. But that's how Springsteen recorded that album. I could only imagine if somebody was doing their demos today. It would all be digital, which would lead you to yeah, you can't not do it. So it would be a completely different thing.

So there are pieces of art that are out there because of the equipment that they were recorded on. They have a big impact on the sound now. Everything would be digital and they'd be like, oh, you like these performances the best? What we could just, you know, add everything else that we need right to it. It's very weird. I like it because it puts it in the hands of any more on the stuff that I recorded. I mean, I'm not a good musician.

My buddy Tom was and his buddies that would come over and help him out, maybe add a bass line to stuff, being able to record this is it. The guy that did our theme? Yes. Yeah. So he passed away seven years ago. Now time flies man. we've been doing this show a long time. It seems so, but that was having that ability was like, this is changing. There's no doubt this was going to change the music industry. And this wasn't even right at the beginning of it.

But being hands on with this and seeing what you could do with how many tracks you could record and how you could do the effects on every little track, and how you could fix every little mistake. Oh, I hit at that point, which is, you know, going back ten years or so, I was like wire record, or sound, you know, recording studio. That's the words I'm looking for.

Why are they even still around beyond getting, you know, the hookers and blow in and maybe a place to hang out because the recording technology that you can get with a, a laptop now and a mixing board, you don't need anything more. Well, that. Yes, but you you still have the advantage of a, a good acoustic room. Yeah. So that much just like you just record everything at the studio. You can edit it anywhere, right? Right. Yeah, yeah, it is that. You want a big dead room?

Yeah. If you're recording so you don't have all the room. And I love going through Blackbird Studio in Nashville, going into the old fashioned reverb room, whatever they call where the the ceiling just rose and fell depending on what kind of sound they were looking for.

Yeah. So, yeah, you want to be able to create that kind of clean, dead sound, and then you can edit everything in and the beauty of it in that, like the headphones, I use the, case on the ones, their reference studio headphones, which means that they provide a sound with no biasing. So that's what you want for editing. You want to hear exactly what's on the recording and not have it sound sweet.

So it's kind of like when you turn off all your, big bottom and stuff, and all sudden you sound like a mouse. that's what you want for the recording because everything else is added in post. Well, it's good to add everything in post. Yeah, except you don't like doing post. We write post is a pain in the ass and you can do it all in post. But when you're doing a live show, yeah, you flip it back on. You sound horrible. You got to flip it out.

Now this is just with the well, this is just the EQ, which this is 99% of the way there. And I did it this way, for quite a while. But then I finally got the big bottom from the basement and patched that in. And when you add the big bottom in, this is what you get now. It just adds that little that push it brings it. It brings a lot closer. And it's a very small change.

It's very with the oral exciter I always thought was an interesting thing because they use that on a lot of music back in the day. It's like, well, what is it doing? Is it EQ? No, that's not really EQ cueing. It's it's exciting to hear what it's like. What the it's magic. it's kind of like the big bottom, which is supposedly. And I think it works fairly well. It enhances your bass frequencies without making it louder, because normally when you jack the bass up, the volume goes with it.

Yeah. And then it can really overpower things. Yeah, yeah. It's I, I'm not sure exactly what it's doing, but I think they're all excited if I remember right reading about it. It's an analog device not a digital device. But what it does is it splits the waveform into two and then it inverts one of those two, and then it squeezes them together to get that particular sound. It is magic. That's not magic. It's math. True. Just doing math. Analog audio, not digital math.

You know, I do have another I mean, that's a dual channel dude. Do you still want my, I've never shipped it to you. I just realized, do you still want my dead one? My dead channels strip that has all that shit at that? You probably just need to replace the power supply and it'll work. I don't know if you could just replace the power supply to look at.

I don't I mean, it was a thousand bucks and I bought it, and it's just been sitting collecting dust for five bucks because you finish the power button and nothing happens. He's like, what's that all about? Yeah. And and I missed out the opportunity to have it serviced through warranty because I was lazy. You can't just buy another one and return this one. They were bought by somebody. They they don't make this anymore.

It's not a device anymore. It's the, it's from the guys that invented the big bottom. what it was that company called, what do they call apex? Right. Apex. Yeah. So it's the apex one or the apex one channel or something like that. Channel one. It's a form like that strip. Right? But it's a full channel. Strips got it's, got all of their shit on it.

And the reason I bought it and it has digital outputs, so does all the analog processing and then dumps it into a high frequency digital, A to D converter, 96kHz and then spits it out. Mine is the apex 204. And I do have another channel. So if I really wanted to I could buy some patch cables and route your microphone through that as well. I don't I remember I got it tuned to where I like the way it was sounding.

I'm sure it sounds totally different than what I normally sound through this, but I also, I didn't have this microphone back when I was using that was this is a nice clear mic. Yeah. Although this is the, just a little baby brother of the RC 20. I went back to the RC 20 because I, much as I like the pure FM seven B yeah, nothing beats the RC 20. No, no the it's well I think the 320 does, but it is a great mic. Well for me I actually have bass in my voice so it helps right. That's true.

Yeah there's the rest of us right. Forget it. What else to do I'll get the 320 was better because now the Mo two is underneath the left monitor on my desk. And the apex is underneath the right monitor on my desk. So I'm gonna need like a six foot two six feet cables to drop them around. That was interesting. Yeah. And you're talking about analog routing or digital routing correct.

Yeah. Basically because you know, the back of the boat, you I could take a signal out, weigh many outputs, use, you know that guitar cable, use your quarter inch cable. Yeah. Bring it into the apex then bring it back to the mode to. Yeah, yeah. And do all the processing before it gets to a weight. This one might be like 1/1000 of a second. Too late. Then maybe one 1 million, whatever it may be. Latency. I always wonder how latency. Maybe their analog still has latency.

Everything has a little bit of latency. it's a beauty of it. That's why you always wonder, like, well, how does this all work? Like, yeah, well, that's the thing is, that's why there was no, like, the analog sound is a mishmash sound. It's not tight. Well, there's so much, so many stories. I should, by the way, I hope people realize we do a music show every week. It's a great show. Unrelenting. Yeah, it's all about music.

Where they used to get, you know, to get the different sounds and what, you know, what band was. Maybe it was Van Halen where it's like it used the, a razor blade to cut the cone on the amplifiers. Oh, I heard about that. Yeah. I don't know if it was true, but I heard that very interesting stuff with, like. Well, how did you get that particular tone now again, it's all computerized, which kind of ruins anything.

When you can go into a, you know, digital audio workstation and just download a plug in that's like, well, now your guitar tone will sound exactly like Eddie Van Halen or whoever you're looking to get. Oh, and I remember the first batch of plug ins that came out, and this is like primal to this is Universal Audio's. I think the company, it's very expensive digital stuff.

But they had a bunch of plug ins like were named for the studios in Nashville that they came out of, you know, wherever like Elvis recorded where Johnny Cash recorded, like you could literally just buy that plug in and boom, now you're digital processing. music history that there's, able to transform your sound as though it was recorded in that studio with the reverb and with the, the mikes and the analog amps and everything.

Well, that's the one thing I loved about the early rockabilly, early rock and roll was that slapback echo. it's very easy to do, but it's a very unique sound to it. You don't hear it much anymore. Yeah. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, yeah. It's like that's they have all these fancy things. They can run the processing through and it's like, we don't really need, organic musicians. It's like, no, I want to hear a guitar. I want to otherwise you're probably going to lose me long term.

We also, besides watching the, 90 minute Guy Clark documentary, which, if you like country music and good songwriting, it's definitely one to check out. I had no real clue because again, like with Taylor Swift, with people like, how could you be if you don't even know about a personal life? I had I had no idea that guy Clark's wife Susanna, but what she was a great artist. She wrote some number one songs and did the painting.

And for Willie Nelson, The Stardust, that was her work. One of like, I didn't know that, but Townes Van Zandt and her had such a close relationship. She's like, you would call her every morning at 9:30 a.m.. and she said he was her soulmate, but yet she was married to Guy Clark. I like I don't know how how would that work? Yeah, I yeah, that's a good question. That's, I mean, do you if you're married to somebody, it's like, you okay with if this was one of his buddies?

I mean, they were like, Rig-I and pounds were very close. Like your buddies calling your wife every morning, and she says he's her soulmate. That's, It's a weird relationship. Yeah, it's made the wrong guy. Also, watch these six hours or whatever it was of the Bon Jovi documentary, which obviously a whole different type of music, but came away appreciating what he did a little more because, he actually has the singing chops. I had no, we really never paid that close attention.

And we know I hear the guitar play chops too. Not bad. I mean, Richie Sambora will probably a little bit better, but he could strum. Yeah, I mean, Richie Sambora has a hotter daughter, but that's a completely different story. Oh, Jesus. Grace. Yeah. It's like people were like, well, why didn't you mention in the documentary that he was married to Heather Locklear? Yeah. It's like, well, why would know? Heather. Yeah, back in the day. Married to Heather. Oh, yeah.

Well, that's why the daughter's like a new little Heather. Damn. Yeah. She was a hottie back in the day, you know? I mean, that batshit crazy, it seems, but, Yeah. Well, aren't they all? Yeah, I think, sir. Gene. Answer. gene.com. It's true. Yeah. And, the crazy heart index, baby. The Bon Jovi thing. I was intrigued because I had no idea. I would not have guessed this. Like Uncle Ted, Bon Jovi claims that he was 100% drug free. The cherry driver, I don't believe it, said he never liked drugs.

He said he tried them early on like in high school, did not like them, and never went back. And he also seems to be a perfectionist who was worried about anything that could mess with his voice. Which is why it was interesting now that he ended up needing vocal surgery, but it seems to have worked. Yeah, that's got to be a big thing.

I think we talked about it when Jonathan Brad Meyer, the radio DJ legend, had something similar and had to have voice surgery and they're like, well you may never talk to that sucked. Well, you know, when you're a singer and this is still where you're getting your money and this is where you're this is what you do more than anything else. You've got the money right? Like you can't sing anymore. It's like, that's it for that movie. walk hard, walk hard. I think it was called Walk Hard.

It was the parody of the the Johnny Cash movie. Now, I know that Johnny Cash Ray didn't know there was a parody of it. Yeah, yeah, well, it's got the guy from, Saturday Night Live or, not the the not not the Saturday Night Live guy, but the other guy. Oh, the guy from the guy. Yeah. You know, talking about I can't remember the actor's name. God will tell you. Remember Talladega Nights? Yeah. Ricky. Bobby. Bam. Who's the actor in there? Will Ferrell, other guy.

Oh, John. yeah, he was the guy that played Johnny Cash in the parody. You know, here's the funny thing. He went to my high school. I can't remember his name. No, not at the same time. He does look like a Pollock, though. But he went to a Brother Rice High school in Chirac. yeah, he's got that kind of look about him. He's another one of them that is, just a really nice guy. Although I can understand with him because, you know, he he was never a super big star.

I mean, you know who he is? John c Riley. Riley. Yeah. So more like a Pollock. No, it sounds more like an Irish guy. the Irish Polack, you know, he sounds Irish. Are they all Irish? Polacks. He says, you know, really, this could be the same case. He's probably half Irish and half Polish. So here's a father of mostly Irish descent in a Lithuanian American mother. Oh, I'm sorry. Lithuanian. One country over. Very close, very close. Gene, I'm guessing somebody is ethnicity. Very cool.

My, my racism is tuned to perfection. Oh, you've been practicing for so long. For so long. Yes, it's it's more of an art than a science, but. Yeah. When does this movie come? So he was it played Johnny Cash in that. I can't believe you haven't seen that movie. That was a hilarious movie about music. This guy has been in everything. Yeah, he's been a lot of stuff. And in that movie, there's it's a funny, ongoing joke about drugs.

Like, he he's never the one that gets into drugs, but he's constantly tempted to do drugs. And so it's like, oh, this stuff's great, and it's not even addictive. Oh okay. I guess I'll try it. And then, you know, he's strung out on, a meth or whatever. Walk hard, the Dewey walk hard. Yes, yes. Walk hard. That's a great movie, man, I did it was right in the style of Talladega Nights. if you like that movie, you'll really like this one.

And it came out probably a year after the actual Johnny Cash movie came out. Yeah. 2007. Yeah, yeah. So, Jenna Fisher, I'm in the movie. Yes. And she plays, Guy what's the girl's name? Johnny Cash's, love interest there. She plays Darlene Madison. Darlene, sit with Daisy. June Carter cash. June Carter. Yes, exactly.

It's the June Carter King, and she was great in that I. I don't know what the hell happened to her because, like, she had this long, ongoing thing with the office, and then she was poised to become because of that, being known for it, become a movie star. And she was like, in two movies and that's it. She's gone. Yeah. Nothing that you would, know about. Nothing big. She should have been. You just said, just cute. Right? And she had that girl next door thing going.

And as you can see in this movie, in what card? You put her in the sexy clothes, she looks pretty hot, girl. Pam Beasley more movies to add right to the list. that one. I'm surprised you haven't seen the other ones that you haven't seen. I'm not surprised. This one. I'm surprised because you're. I'm a music guy. Why would you not watch a music comedy with, buddy of yours from high school?

I know from way back when, maybe it was because I just never really liked the Will Ferrell kind of comedy, so I figured this one. I know it's you, but I think Will Ferrell's movies are better than what I remember his comedy being on Saturday Night Live. It was always very childish. On Saturday Night Live, the movie characters are a little bit more adult. Did you girls as John C Riley? As a hardcore lefty lib tard? Well, he's a Hollywood actor, of course.

Yeah, I mean, I would have and he's from Chicago. Chicago. But he went to Catholic school, you know. Yeah, that's not at all surprising. If you're going to limit your mute your movie watching to only conservatives produced, directed and acted in movies. welcome to the Daily Wire, my friend. Does. That's it. That's your only choice. Yeah. It's like music. I mean, I would have to listen to Uncle Ted, kid Rock. Yeah. You know, and a handful of others. If he had to avoid the leftists.

Yeah, like Steve Earle, lefty loon. Make some great music. Springsteen. Same way. Although. But I think that makes sense. I think most artistic, high quality products require a mental facility is deficiency. You do have that mental break. You got to be a little crazy to say it nicely. in order to be a good artist. Well, you're not incorrect. Some of the best albums. I mean, Sinatra, some of his best albums. I mean, he admitted while came around break ups.

And it's like when you're in that, you're in that state, you know, of the emotional over emotional, which we know that's what, the lefties are overly emotional because they don't deal with facts. You can make some great art. Absolutely. Yeah. It's I think, you know, the extreme side is guys that cut their ears off or commit suicide when they're 27. Right. They'd be painters, do the same thing, sir. On that Ned wants to know why. You sound like you're on a half speed boat.

Jim just woke up. I just woke up, dude. That's why. Smooth. Godspeed, dude. I literally I literally texted them while I open my eyes in bed. I looked at my watch. I'm like, oh, I'm a half or a half hour. Yeah, it was about a half an hour. But I'm like, I'm waking up an hour after I plan to. I don't know what the hell happened to my alarm. I could've sworn I set an alarm. People were like, the snake finally got you, I know, right? That's the first. The first thing people think.

I was like, yeah, snake must eat them. Well, actually, the first thing was massive heart attack due to hard living. Oh, well, that's probably true too. Yeah, like Austin man found dead in his bed. After shitposting all night long, can you imagine his last words? The were what was my last? So now I'm curious. I'm gonna go look at what's my last exposed. What will you be known forever for? Last leaving his mark. Meanwhile. Exact. I'm curious, did I? I don't even know. You never think about that.

Like, last thing I posted was The matrix 1950 Super Panavision 70 version. Do you do you see any of those folks that were really good? Yeah, I didn't really pay attention to them. Clearly you don't. I was sleeping at 330 in the morning. Was not. And I only posted 27 tweets since 10 p.m. last night. That's not that much at all. Yeah. Yo, that's the beauty is I like knowing that people can set up tweets for in the future. Yeah that's true.

They can. Yeah. You know just imagine what I think what you everybody should do is like set their Twitter account if you believe it's going to be around like for like 50 years and just have a message sitting there waiting like haha, I'm dead motherfuckers. And it just pops up at some point that could happen. even funny if you weren't right. Like, nope, made it this far is very never assumed they would make it. This line got a reset that I'm sure Willie didn't die. No, Willie. He's like, damn.

but God bless him, he is the epitome of the guy that knew if he stopped doing what he enjoyed, he would probably be long dead already. Yep. Still touring. He's just going out, enjoying himself. Yeah. No. If he dies while touring, I think that's his wish has been fulfilled while on stage. Now the wow, that might be depressing. But hopefully in his sleep, in his bed on a tour bus. No, I'm thinking at the end of a show, finish it off with the, you know, may the circle be unbroken.

And of that last drum Jesus calls them home, yeah. And they breaks the circle. Be great. It all goes poorly from there. So this, now that I'm looking at it, do check out my last tweet of last night. Seven hours ago. because it is a link to the matrix read done by I in the 1950s, movie style. And the guy that did that one has probably 20 or 30 movies that are, or they're not full movies, obviously. They're basically the like it's weird for the movie there.

It's like trailer he's redoing what a trailer, a trailer. Yes, he's redoing the trailer for that movie, but in a different style or genre or timeline. It's all he's got, like Star Wars done in the 1950s or even 40s. He's got all these different ones done in the 50s and 40s. and then he's got a bunch that are not, like, not in the 1950s either. But interesting idea.

And he's done a whole channel of these things of essentially using I to bring something that it looks similar, like he's got Game of Thrones down in the 1950s, which is hilarious, that if you get enough people watching, that could be a full time. I watch it, so it's like ten of them. Last night. Now we are a value for value podcast. For some reason we have multiple people to thank for today. I don't really understand why.

I mean, I'm very grateful, but I mean, the last show I think we had literally $0.02 and then CSB sent in a boost and that was it. But CSB also sent, you didn't answer. Have direct message to me. Yeah, she's been sent me. He is mad. You did not answer his post about the eclipse. Oh wait, I didn't see a post about the eclipse. No, I say he sent a message this morning saying, hey, are you awake? He was like dazzling. I do not give to other and I think his dean did not respond to me.

I don't know which message that would be in reference to Gene. Tell me what that's going. I freaking like his posts all the time. So I love CSB posts. but today coming in number one, we need wah! Wow, that's a great name. Coming in with 1080. that's monthly too. Nice. So thank you. Weekly. Wow, wow. The monthlies are great. Darian Rundell came in with 565 and asked me to send him the name of the AI music app you were using, so that made a splash.

Yeah, it's a really nice app, and apparently it's been around for a while. I just stumble on it randomly last week and then used it to redo the theme music for Just a Girl Voice. Another podcast that I do with dude named Ben. Yeah, and I noticed the, again, the stuff that you can do with that was quite interesting, especially taking the audio that they give you and running that through Adobe Audition to do a little extra, even running it through. Oh yeah, sure.

A mastering because there's like presets for mastering music. It brought everything. It made it sound much bigger, which is, a good thing. But thanks for the 565. And see, this is how we became thanks to Darian. We're an all time music show now. the three mark co-direct came in with 565 and says unreal Hunting is a great show. I wish you would tell a few people about it that does that and then some more money. It's a great man. Sounds like it's just a good show based in the nation. Sighs.

You want to tell a lot of people that it's a great show and then more will listen? Maybe. Yeah. well, and we've said this before, but we don't say it often enough that one of the best things you can do, which literally costs you no money, is go and leave a review of the show, in iTunes. Yeah, that's probably the most helpful. There are other places, but that's. Yeah, but those reviews are called in other apps.

True. So I like there's multiple places you can leave reviews, but the iTunes one is probably the first one I would steer people toward, because those reviews are generally tied to the RSS feed. And they're they're used by multiple, listing places. If you want Jean to be on am I watching by Tom Thomas, he posted some video of of like, Sesame Street characters clearly being ripped off and fake doing counting to four. Are you seen this video 12 with Tom? What the hell is this?

I, I don't have the sound turned on. I'm just watched you doing a show. That would be because I'm doing a show while watching a video of knockoff Sesame Street characters, like counting and eating bats. One, two. Three bats. That's how many bats it takes. Yeah. You're thinking of a Cookie monster. He's, No. He's smoking. No, the freaking grouch is smoking. And cigaret Oscar Oscar's smoking. Yeah, a cigaret and banging. Well, that sounds pretty cool. I'm telling you.

Tom Chomsky just posted this on Twitter. you should check it out. Ricardas Rex came in with 559, but that was a bunch of people telling me to wake up. That's hilarious. See, they're like, the show is supposed to be on now and then some. Some asshole says Gene, get off social media. It's corroding your brain, right? It is.

regardless, Rex says, being just a year or two older than Gene, and having grown up in the far western suburbs of Minneapolis, I enjoy his recounting of growing up there back in the 80s. No. Yeah. In honor of this common connection, here is a $4 and 94 said donation. The I for the highway for yeah yeah yeah for 94 baby. Yeah. So Minneapolis has a beltway around that. 494 is the south side of the beltway and 694 is the north side of the Beltway. And they added 394 in the middle of the Beltway.

Eventually in 294 goes through Chicago as it. Yeah. And and so the southwest corner of that beltway is Eden Prairie, which is the Eden Prairie Mall is the mall that was in Mallrats, and then the mall that I basically grew up in because I could ride my bike to it. Is that where you got your first girlfriend? At the mall? At the mall? I mean, not that you bought one. I'm just saying. Did you like that we got some store, right?

the only life would have been so much easier if there was just a girlfriend store. Well, I mean, just kind of is going to make the case that there is. Okay. have you gone to Ukrainian sluts that. Have you. Have you tried to have a girlfriend without spending money? No, no, I've never tried that. why do you think I don't have one? Yeah, it's bad enough to have a wife. I know. Right? Adding your girlfriend. It's like I don't get that kind of money. Finance, right? Yeah. You gotta gotta pay for it.

All right. Another. I do find it to be somewhat humorous that, Travis Kelsey gets, like shit. for being the poor boyfriend of Taylor Swift. He makes, like, $34 million or something like that, right? Right. The current that he sold. Now, she hasn't dumped him yet. What's going on? I don't know, it's very weird. Right. Well, I'm thinking she's getting to that age. If she. And this is going to be weird. Oh, she wants to be his baby mama. That's what I'm thinking. I'm just put that out, baby. Daddy.

Just putting that out there that it might be time if you're going to have kids. 34 is about the high end. I think you want to I think 29 is the high end. Well, if you have the money and the resources that she does, I think you can push that a little bit and push it anytime you want. But if you want a healthy kiss, the younger the better, younger the better to. Gene always says that's why he won't even date anybody over 29. Now 29 please 25 oh sorry, I didn't know that the number had gone down.

But thank you Ricard. Rex, you keep getting older. They just keep getting younger. It's weird how that works. And don't take that out of context people. I was so tempted but I'm like it was too low hanging fruit. Somebody posted was it Tom Tom ski. Maybe it was. Or see Brooklyn. One of them odd ex posted Leo DiCaprio. Yeah. Oh yeah. Gets rid of the women by the time they're 29. Like, does this remind you of somebody that we know? And there were so many jokes right there.

I'm like, you know, Leo can't afford the, Yeah, it's really I don't it it's what's weird. Another nice guy in Hollywood, by the way. He is. I've really never paid much attention. Is he the Derek Jeter of actor? Nobody says anything bad about Leo, even though he's a blatantly, serial dater or what? He's got four houses, a slave at that, four houses, and he can have four girlfriends as a girl, and each one. no, he's just apparently just a nice, mellow guy and easy to work with.

Not a one of those crazy typical actor dudes. I think he made his money early enough and he's been working steadily with that was in Growing Pains. Come on. Like I said, he made his money early enough. So why is it that you or I look at a actress that's in, you know, her early 20s, like, oh, dude, she's hot, man, I do her. It's like, that's horrible. She never. Chicks get in this whole, like, Leo DiCaprio thing, you know, it's like, you do real or, let's put better yet, the Jeff Bezos thing.

Oh what a women see in him I can tell you. Yeah. Exactly. You tell you exactly what they see now that's that. Absolutely. Women are and men are attracted to different things for a reason because we are the providers and they're the consumers. it's sad but true. Sometimes the store is open and there's just no foot traffic.

Gene. Yeah, I mean, women, what we would refer to as beauty has been evolved into what it is because past generations of women that had it got more food and were able to reproduce where the women that didn't have it, well, they didn't reproduce, they didn't get a whole lot of food from the providers. So it's interesting that the, the big bad multi-million dollar football player is okay playing second fiddle. Maybe he's just secure in his manhood and I don't think that's it.

I think that it's there's no future here. He knows that he's having a fun old time. It'll be fun to recollect when he was banging her, right? I mean, really buddies. And then he'll marry some nice girl, you know, with a law degree. This is, Exactly. Yeah. It's one of those things, like all the chicks back in the day that wanted to sleep with Bon Jovi or whoever it is. It's very similar thing now that there's a song by, Dan Bern who's another folk singer that is called Tiger Woods.

And the funny, it's like, I wish I had big balls like Tiger Woods, but the, one of the verses I used to have a friend whose goal in life was to go down on Madonna, and he got his chance in Las Vegas one night, and his life was shit from there on out, cause he went out on Madonna too soon. I mean, it's a hilarious song, but it makes the point, actually. Does that sound pretty funny?

Yeah, I mean, he's a crazy lefty too, which is why the, the lyrics are probably good, but there is something about peaking. There is something about people. Which is why it's funny. By the way, you don't have to be a crazy lefty beginner. Crazy righty. So have good lyrics to it. But you have to be crazy. You have to be crazy in one way, shape or form. But there's that trope that goes around this like, oh, you get a free pass.

You got if you, if you, if you get a chance to do that celebrity that you like, then your husband or wife has to be okay with it. I remember there was some what show was it where it was? Jennifer Love Hewitt, the guy runs into her and she's like into it. But then, I mean, Jennifer Love Hewitt, if she was going to be on my list back then, probably like 20 years ago. What a bad.

But this goes right through your, I, I, I mean, I saw a why people liked her, but she was never really never did much for me. She was quirky. Cute. Yeah. Quirky. Yeah. let's not forget Kevin Cipher coming in with his $5 a month donation. And Sir Noel, this who we we chastised last time for sending in the $0.02 with Satoshis upped it to five and a half cents. So I guess we each get two now, and and we we can fight over that extra set.

Adam gets set. Yeah. The the father gets it. I notice some things going. I notice some satoshis moving to podcast index now. And I've got my, lightning node set up your your thing. Yeah, yeah. Oh, there's still a way to set up a wallet directly on these things, which is driving me. I know. Right. It's funny, because in order to just use an app on your phone, then that's what everybody uses. That's the same thing, you know? And some of those are running their own nodes.

But the sad part is, okay, so you go through the hassle, you get a Bitcoin node, you get a lightning no, this is all cool. You're taking this this just to see USB. So there better be a donation coming in. So you've got the outgoing Satoshi's incoming I got liquidity and I'm like okay well how do I create wallets. One of them you know I want a wallet for unrelenting I want one for the rock and roll ratio. I want one for all of my shows.

So I get easily just look at them and go, how is the overall state? Because, yeah, how are they doing? When it goes into one pile, it's easy to think it's all you, right? You know, it's very easy, you know, which is why it's great that the satoshis get split apart before it gets into anybody. It's like, this is beautiful. But now it's like, so if I want a wallet for each show, I have to do that through, like get Albee or Blue Wallet.

It's the only way to create a wallet that I would then have to connect to the node, which is fine, but I'm like, it's still a third party involved. So it that's you only do that if you are planning on taking any of the money out. And this is what I think. First person I heard say this was Adam. Ben. I never really thought about it, but he's right is you don't need a wallet. All you need to do is have a place to see. Your wallet. The whole concept of wallet is just fake. It's right to access.

There is no wallet. All you have is the blockchain. So all you need is the key. And so what he's done is basically create a wallet, get the the endpoint address and then delete the wallet. And before deleting the wallet though you know, save your 14 word phrase or whatever. But but like he said look the key phrase is all you need. You don't need a wallet or running anything. That's one misconception that people have is that somehow they need to have some software running.

You don't need software running. Your money is sitting on the blockchain itself. So all you need to do to recover phrase this is not true because you need to have the node running. Otherwise the stats don't come in. no. No, he's I asked him about that. He says you do not need to have a node for Bitcoin. You don't for for.

Yeah you. Yeah. Well there's a lightning you know that where the amateur land professionals are getting bitcoins not satoshis I will say you are absolutely the, the puppet master here. 3333 from Comic strip Blogger. Oh, look at that. How many seconds did that take? He says Happy Friday. Well, core. What to you, comic strip blogger. I hope everybody follows you on XBLA. That's three letters or go to CSB dot lol. That's a website. You can look at his, doodle links and all that.

And if you want him to send more sets to us, send some stats to him at ksbw at Get all be that come two and be like forward. These are you. You'll be my money launderer. Yeah exactly CSV he can laundering the money. Love it, love it, love it. We appreciate everybody who helps support the show if you'd like to do so. If you got any value listening to this a chuckle. Maybe you learned something. You heard something. You're like, wow, I didn't know that.

Go over to unrelenting that show and help support us by, PayPal or lightning or whatever you want to do. It's a beautiful thing. There's a new spaceship coming out, and daddy needs a new spaceship. That was the first thing somebody in the troll room said. I forget who maybe it was. Seems like Gene's probably off to shopping for spaceships. Like, yeah, probably one of my other favorite games other than Star Citizen, which is Elite Dangerous.

they just changed their business model from you buy a game and you play it, which they have for the last decade to you buy a game, you play it. And hey, you can buy more spaceships for real money. Oh, so I think it's a great move on their part. Everyone's bashing them for like help pay to win. Pay to win. It's such bullshit. There's no winning with shit you buy. You still have to play the game. But the difference is that now you can buy it for real money instead of in-game money.

And I think it will enable them to pay a lot more developers and to do a lot more with the game moving forward. Because in the, current gaming marketplace for live service games, meaning it's a game that doesn't just run on your computer, there's actually a server involved, like, how are you supposed to keep that up and running and make improvements if all you ever do is just sell a game once through, right? Gotta have some upkeep. This is why Adobe switched to a monthly model, because.

And that's your choice. You could do a month league model where they just charge you. Eve online does that. Even online charges you? I think it's ten bucks or 15 bucks a month for every every month. No, it's less than that. what am I saying? It's definitely less than that. But that is a monthly fee for, like, six months and then go back into it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. like, I stopped playing you for ten years and then came back into it for a little bit, like, where's my account?

We did get it all there. Everything was there. All my shit was there. Everything was exactly where I left it a decade earlier. That's weird. It's amazing. We did switch is some more information and a 10,000 Satoshi boost from the aforementioned pod. Father, who says if you have a full node, you can use helipad to separate out your set income streams. Well that's interesting. I did not know that. I will add, I know helipad is available on the umbrella, so if that. See?

There you go. I told you he never listens, right? Never at all. Like, why are you listening to the show? He was a half hour late Wednesday, half time. Dvorak was a half hour late to his show. And what happens? He. It only happens once if the punishment is severe enough. But also try a helipad out and so I can use just the main address, the wallet that comes with, the lightning node, and then do the magic elsewhere, cause I'm like, how do you do this?

I want to separated by show, because otherwise, you know. Or what if you want to give other wallets? I know there's, Elon bit, which is another way you could, put your own. yeah, if you want to have a wallet for friends and family. So maybe I wanted to host Gene's wallet. I could do that. Yeah, I would totally have you host my wallet because, can be bothered myself, so. Right. Well, you were paying for it. Then you're like, well, I didn't get any setup. I'm still using for it.

I so I'm cancel a voltage though. Yeah, I need to do that. I seriously need to cancel it. They do a good word back. What I hear every month. They do good work. They keep running five bucks a month and then be cheaper, be a bonus. And I'm trying to figure out how to hook those up because you have to go through the onion address, which I've got. And I was trying it with and without the support, and they kept giving me connection error. So it is a trial and error thing.

You just hope that the trials don't, like take everything down and yeah, you don't want to have any real money in there until you're fully testing everything out there to make sure everything's working. Yeah, yeah. Speaking in part, father, did you see I post a link to Joe Rogan telling, what's name? Gabby. God damn it. I'm blanking on the name Gabby Giffords. Was it? No, no, the the the chick that used to be the, the Hawaiian representative.

No. Tulsi Gabbard, Tulsi Gabbard, Tulsi Gabbard telling Tulsi about Adam Curry. You told her about Adam Curry? No. I posted our next clip of Joe Rogan. Oh, telling Tulsi Gabbard. Who? Adam Curry about Adam curry? Yeah, I thought that was interesting. He was featured nicely in the Bon Jovi documentary there, Adam Curry. Yeah, a few different times. Yeah. I mean, he was big back in the day. He was big, big in these, as they say, the one to the Moscow Peace Festival.

yeah. Yeah, that's of very odd to. I don't understand this. All these. It was when you think, stadium shows, you know, I'm used to like what you have in Chicago. Okay? The soldier field can fit, like, 70,000 people. But most of these stadium shows, you were maybe were 40 or 50,000 people. This look like there was almost like 150, 200,000 people at this. And it seemed like they were singing along and it's like, well, I thought it was illegal to have the music in that country.

Everybody had the music. No, it wasn't even legal. It was just not available legally, like it wasn't officially sold. Says all copies of bootlegs. Yeah, some very poorly made, from what I understand. And, it's like the genes, right? Well, yeah, they're not Levi. They're, They're not. They're fake Levi's. Yeah. Not real. Very well-made.

But really, the more you think about it, streaming killed the record industry because I asked the, the wife the other day, I'm like, so who do you think has sold more records? Taylor Swift, Bruce Springsteen or Bon Jovi? She's like Taylor Swift, like. Nope. Third on that list because nobody buys records anymore. Just you. Right. Well, some people buy records, but the overall amount, you know, you think about Sheryl Crow had an album I think that sold like 15 million.

now the Taylor Swift albums, when you everybody streaming it. I think the albums only sell like 2 to 3 million, which is great today. Well, she also releases like two albums at a time, which is crazy. That's like Garth Brooks. It's like, I wish she wants the, the number. It's like Garth just keeps releasing albums and keeps releasing boxsets. You can be like, well, technically that's X amount of albums. does he wants to be that number one?

I'm starting to think she orchestrated the whole thing where you're like, oh, the the evil record company, doesn't want to sell me my music bag, so I'm just going to recreate it all. Oh, I don't doubt that for a minute. Like, there is more benefit to her doing that than not one, even though everything appears to be legit, that the father was not engaged in any of the negotiations. He owned a stake in that. So he made a lot of money out of the sale.

and two, I believe the Scooter Braun's and, the other guy from, that bought it, the guy that was the, the manager for the Canadian kid Bieber. They said that she was given the opportunity to buy them and just turned it down. But that's that's what I'm thinking. It's like this was a better move to do it this way. Yeah. Well because you know you have the recording technology now and we all know that she was a lesser singer the last time around. Although I think that killed it. Right.

For a bunch of people because they're like well it's not the same now. It's not. That's true. Like you don't want to take a raw song by the way you fell in love with and then clean it up. I watched one of her latest, clips. I don't think it was a video, but it was a clip from a stage show. Is it just me remembering wrong, or did she gain, like, 20 pounds? No, I think she bulked up a little for the show. She looks kind of chubby ish. Had to get out.

Would not call her fat by any stretch, but I wouldn't call her skinny, which I used to call her skinny lean. I think she could like, kick my ass so I really wouldn't. she's taller than you. Yeah, or kick your ass. I mean, I've still got 5 or 6in on her. but with that one, she's she's, in much better shape, and, the the stamina. I wouldn't I would go out there and try to do as if she's lip syncing, which I think she is most of the time.

She's still jumping around on stage like, yeah, got to keep moving, So moving. Yeah. And that's the part that, like, the cardio has got to be really good for all these people. Well, that's what they sound like. It's not like guys that I listen to that walk out on stage with a cigaret. Right. Martini glass. Yeah. That's Sinatra. You know, you weren't running around the stage, though. You're not. You're eight. You're walking at half pace. Was that, Alan Jackson.

So we used like Alan Jackson and I don't or and George Strait. I don't think either one of them ever really left the microphone at the center of the stage. Yeah, just went out there, Willie. The same way. Didn't need to be running around, you know. Especially now, of course, for Willie. Yeah. Well now he's sitting but yeah, but that was it. That was I think the training regiment part of it was three hours of cardio a day while singing at the top of her lungs or at. That's crazy.

Or, you know, recreating that as best that they could. Right, right, right. In order to go through that. But this is probably the, who started that, who really kind of got the Springsteen. No, he's the one that is credited with the three hour plus shows that everybody else. McCartney talks about Springsteen doing that, and he's like, you know, dude, fuck you way too long. We don't want it. We don't want it. He's like, in the people. I'm not. I'm not talking about duration.

I'm talking about like, who created the whole dance routine onstage thing while singing rather than just standing from a microphone. Singing was the first. Was it Madonna? Was it somebody before her? I don't know, but it was a chick, I can tell you that because, yeah, it was definitely a chick. Madonna did do that. I remember back in not maybe not her first early stuff, but definitely her stage shows by the mid 80s were a lot of dancing. Yes, but did anyone do that before?

You know, I know there was a lot of I mean, even in country music back in the 80s, Reba with all of the maybe wasn't dancing around as much, but very big stage, shows with different costume changes and, you know, with the backup dancers and all this kind of stuff. Yeah. I mean, they've always had some of that. The grand Ole Opry, just in general, I mean, the the whole costume change thing. But there's a difference between just doing costume change and basically standing and singing.

I mean, Britney Spears was at one that was huge. That was way after Madonna. Yeah, yeah. I never saw Madonna stage shows. I really couldn't, I never seen it live, but I certainly seen bootlegs of them. You know, the rock guys were definitely running around the stage, but never the stage set up for anybody. That is even quite a clip from the Taylor Swift tour. Forget about the music, forget about her. The technology on the stage is amazing. It's impressive.

Yeah, the fact that nobody's gotten killed yet with the way the stage very quickly goes up and down. Yeah, it's like Vegas shows, I think started that whole thing. I remember going to see, What, what's that band, that called, they've got multiple shows in Vegas. like, I remember right here. I can look it up. One of their albums was called allegory. so not the Rolling Stones. No, no no no no, the, certainly display. yes. That's not real. It's not really. It's not a band. It's a show.

But that, like, they've been going since the 90s and their stages have always been hydraulic. Yeah. Like there's always shit moving up. And then they know they've got a water show where the stage literally goes down and it's underwater. You like, that's weird man. Billy Bones points out Alice Cooper put on one hell of a show back in the day, too. Probably still does over that now. She never did drugs. That wouldn't surprise me. That was. Was he straight laced? he was buddies with Glen Campbell.

They used to go out golfing together. Then they really? Yeah. Yeah. No, that would be an of these. Like, there were a couple of times there was one story that Alice Cooper told was they were going through a, you know, red light or turning one of those things where they knew there was a camera. So there was a picture of that, which is, you know, Alice Cooper and Glen Campbell driving through it, either a red light or turning on red or whatever it was.

He's like, they went in, the cops had a poster on the wall at the police station, like, yeah, very weird. That combination like, well, not no weirder than the show, really, you know, probably. Which one's Alice Cooper? Which one's Glen Campbell? Not really sure. Yeah, I'm the straight laced one for sure. Do you think? I don't know, I don't know if I believe that one or not, but this is why people tune in. They tune in for the greatest music, talk, hear they do every week.

And unrelenting in this was, a rarity where we kind of stayed almost on topic for, the whole show. You plan on waking up on time for next week's show? I'm gonna go to sleep immediately after we're done. You could tell that, something popped up. Who knows what's going on? I have to turn notifications off, but to go take a nap. Jean, you'll feel better. All right. Yeah. Let me show you. 0000, look at that.