106: Chicken Skin

I was genuinely LOLing. Hello and welcome to Unrelenting episode number 106. Yeah, we're in to March. Finally, a 24 hour mark of. The first day of episode number 206 down on my notes. That was obviously a typo. Or did we do an extra hundred? Yes. You slept through them. We're at two of six now. But the other with the last hundred. Good. Well, donations weren't great, I'll tell you that much. We'll have to go back through the last hundred episodes and see who donated. Now, now, I think.

I think you talked about it. I think we're all good. It's a beautiful day in the city of Chirac. It's down. I mean, it's. Well, it's in the air about 40 degrees now. So, yeah, it's not a whole lot warmer here right now. I know. I heard you guys were getting some storms. You were getting hit. I don't know about that. I probably slept through it. But temperatures are definitely in the upper forties right now. Did you get some snow yet? No, no, I don't. Joke about that.

If you know, they love it when it gets some snow down in Austin, then they turn your power off just because they're like, well. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Can have these people being too comfortable in a snowstorm. They may be trying to kill you. Have you thought about that? Well, they you know, I'm sure they are, actually. I don't think that's a question. We have spiked up to 46 people listening on the stream. Whew. you mean down. To 47? There's. There's another one.

Got injured, wrote a little script that now does a rolling 4 hours. So it looks like a it looks like an EKG or a lie detector test with that. Thing. Just kind of gone up and down, up and down. So it's kind of fun to watch that. Now, you don't have to go to Doug and ask him. You could just watch Cotton Gin script on the Web for No Agenda. It's great. It goes up like boom, it goes up through Fletcher's well, I'm sorry, Dusty apples pre-show.

And then it really jumps up through the rock and roll pre-show, and then no agenda comes out and then Adam Curry Not wrong the minute, especially now that they're doing their donation segment at the end, they've been doing a donation segment. Then just the meet up reports on that. And then one last little cute story in the dud fell off a cliff the minute the donations started. Really? People are like, nope, don't want to hear those. Yeah, watch in real time.

It's like watching what do they you know, those focus groups you can see the people like, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it in that new No, hate it. Hey, hey, hey. That. Yeah, yeah, that's borough for sure. I think your description is not for us. I mean. It's interesting to see because, you know, let me get into the psychology of the people that are donating.

And if you know that the donations have now been moved to the end of the show and people are tuning out, well, that doesn't even know you're donated. So that can hurt donations where the people that were pissed about the donations being earlier in the show. The way I would look at it as those people are never going to donate. So you really shouldn't be scared of the people who never donate our past because the way the show is supported is by the people who do donate.

Okay, you're starting to lose them. But when you get that I'm. Just saying. You're suggesting why don't we do donations right now is what I'm thinking. Right. Well, this is great because we can that this is the the ultimate Scott Gorman came in with the show number donation $106 and no freaking notes. God, if you had something to say, feel free to send us a note. Do we have email addresses that unrelenting. Maybe I should set one up. We have Gene. It's a that come through.

We have Darren a grumpy Hanscom. Yeah, Yeah. So when you read the note, I was going to reply to him, but I didn't have his email. Who was there? Was there a note from Scott? Because I got $106 donation from him. But no, no, no, no. Sorry. No, not Scott. I was talking about the guy that talked about an affinity. you're talking about the little 2000 Satoshi books. I'm talking about $106 coming in. Well, you didn't tell me about that. That's news to me. I just didn't wake up.

I know you were up at, like, for a meaning thing, so. I don't know. I was. Yeah, they get no frickin sleep. They. I mean, we have a show number donation without a note. That is. It's a beautiful. Thing. Yeah, that that is weird. But if you had any. Generally since the donations. We are both. Dead on extends notes. On X and I. Well, I mean, I should set up like notes it unrelenting that show that would make sense to you because a PayPal should allow you to send a note in.

But they don't always do it. Yeah. And then our but I, I honestly I know some people say that I have never had a no not go through PayPal. That would usually it's when people forget to put it in or they do something weird and or it's one of these things where the website just isn't set up correctly. I was trying to buy some stuff from our buddy Cal over at Lavender Blossoms dot org and I could have. Sworn. I was doing everything right, putting in the credit card number. And it just would spin.

It would spin, it would spend. And there's nothing. Worse. Than something that just never gives you an error. It just keeps spinning, just keeps spinning. And then you have to refresh like, well, did that go through? Because I don't make credit card debt again and again and again, right? I don't want to cause any issues and then realized that phone number or something was a field that was required, but it wasn't filled in. But it didn't say no phone number not filled in.

So it took me a while to figure that one out. Sometimes I think that's the way PayPal kind of works, even though there's a note, maybe it doesn't pass the note along or they don't know that the note or what something weird. But John and I are both on action. He had been at searching ecom down at random thoughts dot com or grumpy old Benz dot com that that all worked so if he had something to say because we do appreciate the show number donation we should get like a big. So yeah obviously a big.

Big prize back for that one. I mean if we had unrelenting that social you would totally be a member now but we don't yet. I don't know that people want that. And because social the the metaverse but we can get to that the metaverse is dying the people the only reason they know what gender fatty thing was a thing that was. One of the biggest yeah. At the time when a kid first arrived. Well it was because it was that kind of a closed community.

Sadly enough, people went there because of we want to talk to other no agenda folks. The minute that fell apart, those people all left there is a vast majority of the people that I was following were following me. Now that the switchover was made, they're just gone. Yep. Our buddy Tim Kiesel comes in with his monthly $10.80 donation. Thank you very much, Kevin Seifert with his monthly $5 donation. Thank you. And then we did have a boost from Aqua List for 2033 Satoshis.

With the way Bitcoin is going, that might be like $500 soon, but right now it's like a buck or two. I think that's what 2033 would be. And he talked about our Adobe Cloud discussion. I'm still looking for a good price on the Adobe Student teacher that was on sale. I know it was on sale when I found out they needed it went off and I saw it. But yours isn't student teacher so that I would get screwed. Regular edition at 40% off.

Yeah. But then I would have to have the student teacher want to expire. And then when I can't find the other one in a year than I would. So that would all be kind of screwy. But Aqua list. So you're paying monthly, right? No. Yearly or you prepay for the whole year? Yeah. damn. I get the card from. Yeah. In the see it had been Amazon would sell that but then Amazon went to digital only and their system for digital subscriptions sucks.

Yeah. Yeah. Best Buy The last year I bought the card from Best Buy and they would deliver it. This year Best Buy won't deliver it. They say they're in the store, so I could probably just walk into a Best Buy. It looks like B and H still does it, where they will just provide you with the code for one year. So you just go into your account on the Adobe and you give it the code and it adds a year. So I spend the 200, it was on sale I think for 179, which was insane.

And now it's back up to the what, 230 bucks for the year, which is still way better than buying Adobe at full price. yeah, Yeah. Now it's like 600 bucks a year at full price. So yeah, this is less than half. So and we're talking about it because of the. Boost from Aqua Lithium. We talked about it on the last show and he says, Have you not heard of Affinity Affinity Dot Sarah Scott Right.

Yeah. They have a Photoshop illustrator and InDesign alternative suite that's buy once owned forever, just like the old school Adobe Suite, as God intended a lot of small shops like mine are boycotting with it and happily churning out great stuff for our clients. And I was not aware of affinity. I know there are alternatives out there, okay, but I was not really aware of it because I really haven't looked for years because I'm like, I like, yeah, Photoshop. I'm used to Photoshop.

I do use audition for the audio. I don't see anything in here for audio recording, multi-track, all the fun stuff that Adobe audition gives you. I also not as often, but I do use the video premiere program that Adobe has. So yeah. I'm a little bit more ingrained in things that aren't. If it was just Photoshop then this would make a lot of sense.

But when you get into the audio stuff, the video stuff, and there are things that I would like to use that I just have never gotten around to playing around with too much with the Adobe one, including the character animator, where you can create the character and then turn your webcam on and just move around like a freak and it will make the character move around like you are. I mean, I think that's kind of cool stuff. That is cool stuff.

And I, I've been meaning to play with that for a long time, but let me answer the donation that we have for Affinity. Unlike you, I am very aware of it. Using it. Bought the entire affinity suite when it came out and then about a year ago, so several years after I bought the full suite. And I think I want to say they were 99 bucks per app and there's three apps. Which is horrible. But I had a break so it wasn't too bad.

But about a few years after that, they came out with an affinity two or Affinity Pro or I can't remember what name is, but they stopped updating the apps that I bought and they changed the name slightly and they came out with new apps. yeah, but you don't have to pay for those old ones anymore. And no, I don't. But that's when I decided to stop going with Affinity and go back to Photoshop because, you know, the idea that you buy once and you don't have to pay yearly is a great idea.

However, if all they do is come out with a new app that you have to rebuy, right? Every two years, it's the same goddamn thing. Right? They'll say you don't have to update it or you know. You don't have to. You still keep it? Sure. Well, I guess maybe I'd like some people. I like to have the latest features. So, yes, I mean, I still hear occasionally from people mainly on and on Threads.

And Adobe has so many more tools, including about a dozen different apps on the iPad that, well, again, the idea of affinity would be cool that like I have some games like I was playing the other day I was playing No Man's Sky, which came out nine years ago, and they've been making updates for free to that game for the last nine years. So it's still a maintained and supported game. I paid 50 bucks or whatever it was once for it and it still works nine years later.

Right now, I'm assuming they're still selling the game. It's still viable. They're still selling the game. Exactly. And this is this is true of most games on Steam is that when you buy them, the support cycle tends to be in, you know, 3 to 5 to even ten years for some games. And the trend iPad apps was very much a make an app.

If it goes big and you make enough money, you immediately make a new version of that app, which you don't upgrade everybody who bought the first step too, and you call it pro or you call it two or you call it something with a year in it and okay, maybe I'll do that once all by the second. The new Pro app or whatever version you get, and then they do it again. Remember, this is what Adobe used to do back in the day, back when people weren't complaining about the fact that they had a subscription.

Adobe had apps that they create. And I incidentally, I been in Adobe Photoshop user since version 1.0. I believe that it was 1986 is the first year that I bought Photoshop. Yeah, I think I first bought version six. For some reason it is sticking out in my mind and I think at that point it. Was like black and white when I bought it. Well, yeah, that's how all of this. Version six wasn't. But I think when I bought version six, unless I'm totally hallucinating, maybe I am.

I think it was like 1299 bucks. It was something crazy for three up. No Photoshop. I don't think that's that's like, great. It's never been that expensive. Back back in the eighties, it was 300 bucks, I believe. And that was crazy expensive for a piece of software. And then at least on the Mac, there may have been some packages that were on other platforms that were. But on the Mac, it seems crazy. And then, you know, that was back when it was just Photoshop.

There was no Illustrator, there was no any other software like that. They came with a bundle. And then by by the mid-nineties, even before that and by the early nineties, I think the price had gone up to 499 and then 599. And I think the highest that I remember seeing it without additional software just for Photoshop was 699. So I don't think it's ever been over a thousand. Now if I'm wrong, somebody has an image of a for sale. Of a price for. Over a thousand would send it to us.

That'd be very curious. But I was using Photoshop a lot back then. I actually was working in the pre press space and it I don't think it ever went over 700 bucks by itself. You wanted the whole Adobe suite. Obviously that was more expensive. But also well back then initially you bought Photoshop and then gave you free updates for about three years and then that time slowly started shrinking to where you got one year of free updates. But the subscription model, that's my point.

I I've been taking a long way around the, the subscription model for Adobe came about as a result of people complaining about the fact that they kept charging for new versions. And incidentally, you could always buy an upgrade if you were a current customer in Photoshop and a new version comes out, your upgrade price would typically be less than 50% of what you paid for the previous version. Yeah, quite. So. 40%.

Yeah. So for 699, if it was a $700 product initially, your upgrade probably be to 89 and those were always the most expensive software products you could buy other than specialty stuff like Mathematica or, you know, design works or shit that's really meant for you to make money with which Adobe Photoshop definitely is meant to make money with. It's not a fuck around kind of software, even though a lot of us use it for fucking around.

So. So my long winded point about this is yes, I'm aware of affinity. I was a customer, but when they decided to updated to whatever the next version was, I just decided to go back to paying for Adobe. Yeah. According to a post on Twitter, which we know is always right, it said CS6 cost 699 when it came out. There you go. Well, that's the highest price. I remember it was 689. Which now they want to charge you what, 50 bucks a month? So about 600 full rate.

With no discount is 50 bucks a month, which is $600 a year. So and that gives you like 14 desktop products and nine products on the iPad. Yes. So depending on the initial release of Photoshop three years ago, I was like 33 years ago, it was February 19th, 1990. So I guess that's 34 years now, right? it was before 90. So they changed the name of it. It was originally released as darkroom, and then it became Photoshop.

And the first time I saw it and when I actually bought it was at SIGGRAPH in either 86 or 87. But it's that same company, same logo, same everything is black and white product. And the the color version was an upgrade from that. And the concept of monthly subscription versus update pricing, you're always going to have somebody that's mad about one or the other. The thing comes down to how much you use the. I mean, ideally three upgrades for life, right? Which a few things do.

I mean, I've to the programs that I have on Windows that that does all of the crazy things for having multiple monitors it's called display fusion and I don't know if they run this all the time, but at one point they ran, they buy it once and you will get updates for later. And I've. Been getting updates for like. That. Yeah. There's there's there are. A few products like that but not many men. Now I do directory opus which I love on my windows machines to replace the Windows Explorer.

It's an Australian company that's been coming. I've been using this. For who the hell uses Windows Explorer? I don't know, but I wouldn't. That's why the minute I get a new computer, it's displays. They're not display fusion. The directory opens, replaces that. It's well worth it. I don't get unlimited updates, but every year, like you said, when the new version comes out, it may not be every year, but when the new version comes out, it's like 30% of the retail price if you want to upgrade.

And I was I was doing a Photoshop upgrades about every other year. Basically I want as long as you could go and still qualify for the next version which was They keep you right? Yeah. Yeah. Because at some point if you're like two versions behind, they're not going to let you do it. But I think I want to say it was like 18 to 20 months roughly. And, you know, I was for for some time I was actually making enough money with Photoshop that it was it made total sense.

And then I was not making money in Photoshop. And then I was like, bitching about it, but still doing it. And then in the early 2000s, I switched from analog photography, from old school film to doing digital photography. And then I started using Photoshop all the time again, and then they came out with Darkroom, although maybe that was in the nineties they came out. But no, I think it was in 2000, so I think it was 2000. Darkroom came out and now honestly became

much more useful tool than Photoshop was to me. And, and they also came out with a photo discount so that if you don't need all the other crap. You just wanted Photoshop right? Then it was like 29 bucks a month. Right? People started immediately complaining were the folks that they built their business upon, which were a lot of professional photographers who were like, Hey, I'm never going to do audio editing. Hey, I'm never going to do video editing. Exactly.

Screw that shit and the video editing stuff. I honestly, for a lot of people, like Final Cut was 199, but through it came out to 99 pretty much since then, for the last 20 years and arguably does everything and has had tons of professional work ever done it. Although I use Da Vinci now for a little editing, I do. I actually bought Da Vinci, which is, I think, the best deal right now, 99 bucks for a commercial product that movies are made on. Hard to beat that.

Yeah And you know, it's not a. Subscription. Well, there are different ways to look at where you can pull the most money in. And most of these companies do that with what they've got. And and. It. Doesn't affect piracy. Piracy? Well, yeah. One, piracy is still rampant.

You know it is because again now they've jacked up the prices and Christians so high that people aren't paying the subscription because piracy totally got reduced when they went to the subscription model because a lot of people got what they wanted, which is I'm not going to pay you 600 bucks or more every year for one piece of software. That's insane. I only use it now and then so that's the other thing is what I do is I rarely keep a subscription running the whole year.

I generally will started when there's a sale and I will stop it after I haven't used it for a few months. Which makes sense. And so you know, I haven't gotten to the point where it's it's something that I need all the time because I use other tools, although arguably, you know, like for well. There's always another. Deal. This script, which I've been using for audio editing forever. Yes. It seems like for like three years, don't think or longer, but that's 20 bucks a month.

So that's what, 240 bucks a year. Right. And when you now look at and I have just saw the different settings and what you can do now in premiere, but you can take your wavefile now. So if you're doing this for podcasting, you could take your finished wavefile and throw that in the premiere. And it will even though it's the video editor, that's the only thing that it has built in where it will look for long silences, it will look for filler words. It will do pretty much everything.

I believe that the script does for you. Right? It's about time. Yes. They should have done that sooner. I don't know the quality because this would be the other question is the script process, is their algorithm better at voice to text? Because this you don't want to take. Been around longer. Yeah, but you don't want to screw up and have it telling you that. Although it'll highlight the filler words so you can go through and decide on your own, it's not like you have to let Adobe.

Well just take all filler words out that you think you. Played with the script at all. You should grab the free version just to test it versus dummy. I had it like right when I first heard about it, but it's been a while. Been a while. Okay, so I've been streaming for a while, but just finally get around to posting the link. Well, hey, we're live on X. Yeah, and it's all running and there'll be in style. So it's not using the like. Is that better? Well, it's better.

It's just that this allows us to use clean feed for the sound portion. Is it giving us a better equalizer. Sound to everybody. Sounds good. To me. Anybody is. Watching. You know what if they after. I mentioned. It, but if they tune in and you're like, Hi, I'm G and I'm really loud and I'm like, I, I they're like, wait, I can't hear the other guy. It's. I'm getting into the yellow. Say something. Hello? Yeah, you're you're a little under. So let me just. Jack me up, baby.

Jack me up. Good. So I think you're max jacked. That's Max, Jack. Man, We're Max jacked right here at Unrelenting. How you do it? Everybody got a battery. You can you can. You can tweak that on your end because you can turn up the ascending back to me portion right? But you can only let you do so much. And then they start adjusting it for like, you allowed. Yeah. Yeah. Because you can even see a clean feed. You're not getting the feel. Yeah. You're barely hitting the.

Yellow And I'm, yeah, I always, I try to peek at the yellow just into it. I don't know much about that but you're not even getting to the yellow on here. I got to go to my explain this. I just jack up there is minus a little bit one to mix. Minus, mix minus. yeah. This is high quality audio gear right now. Hey, I thought we. Had higher right there. See, I just hit that right there. Now you had Sony touch deal. you got a touch. Yeah. Yeah. The, the, the two meters.

Totally correspond to each other. So when you're in the yellow, in the clean feed, you're in the yellow in the audio mixer and going into obvious that's. A beautiful thing means 1337 also came in with 1337 said long suffering listener first and most likely last time booster Finally some decent content good news that's probably going to cause the removal of the show Smiley face stay unrelenting. Well thank you me.

Which content you think he's referring to all of it could be the rest of it is going to it's going to end up in cancellation of the show. What? Yeah, we're going to be we talk about bad things like there was there was a Telegraph article revealed. Telegraph. Yeah. The telegraph out of the UK now Putin plans to flood the West with migrants and the whole thing about Russia's going to use migrants to affect elections in other countries. And I'm like, Hello?

so you're saying there's collusion between Putin Biden to load media? I mean, to be fair, Putin did endorse Biden for election. I know nobody wants to talk about that. They're still saying he wants Trump back. It's like Pogo. He said he want to know. No, no, he does. That is way more like Trump with Biden then that refers by. But this concept that they're doing this in Europe, it's like, well, what do you think is going on in the United States? Yeah, but there's still a Europe around that.

I guess. I mean, I've never. Been I wonder how many more years they're going to survive. The wonderful EU. Without food and without electricity. Without Putin giving them what they need. Well, without them buying what they what they need voluntarily, they're just not buying it. And then the to show you how bad the media is, the story about Wendy's in their surge pricing. my God. What's this?

So the Wendy's had a you know, one of their usual boring things where the CEO spoke and he said moving into 2025, you know, we're looking at things like digital menu boards, dynamic pricing and a few other things and of course, saying dynamic pricing, all of the media ran with, they're going to do surge pricing like Uber. They're going to charge you more for. Your whopper when it's lunchtime. Should I better get my whopper ordered right now?

I'm sorry, Whoppers don't come from Wendy's, but otherwise we're perfectly. Right in the long winded Wendy whoppers. Those are good. I covered this on this week's Random Thoughts, which was fantastic. I went and then just did a quick Google to see how. They started listening to that IKEA. Who had covered this story. And it was everybody. Literally every news organization you could think of was on the list. And that was not what Wendy said.

Nobody even picked up the phone to call and be like, Hey, Wendy's, can you clarify this? And the worst thing was, once Wendy's clarified that what they meant was not to do an Uber surge pricing. When they talk about dynamic pricing, they're talking more like early bird special kind of things, which, you know, if we're not selling a lot of burgers between eight and 10 p.m., you know, maybe the burgers will be 20% off between eight and 10 p.m..

Yeah, Yeah. So the assumption is, they're going to jacked prices up, whether they're talking about lowering prices. Yes. Now when it came down, you know, the White House spokesperson clarified that, you know, they will not be implementing surge pricing. Now, this article in The New York Post, it was just idiotic because. The. Post is like, well, Wendy's is now I don't see it in the article, but somewhere in here it's like Wendy's is now walking back.

I'm like, Wendy's isn't fucking walking back anything. You motherfuckers got it wrong. Made a mistake. They're not walking it back. This is what is used by journalists now. When their man commits suicide, it turns out he's the life man. The flashbacks. The commitment, the suicide. Yeah, There's this other media coverage and stuff. Rather than saying, we boned it, we just assumed something that was incorrect, You'll now be like, Well, now Wendy's is walking back there.

No, but Wendy's never said they were doing this. They said dynamic pricing. They didn't say we're going to be doing surge pricing and then changed their mind. They never said that. So there was nothing to walk back. You Fox now are you Wendy's like of the shitty quality food places. What's your favorite. If we had to go Wendy's, Burger King, McDonald's, Wendy's wins? Yeah, I would agree with that. Probably Wendy's and then the Burger King. Second McDonald's last year.

I really like White Castles, but I understand the quality is not. What. Normal people would consider good. I certainly loved White Castles. Yeah, it's they're kind of a midwest staple. Hell, yeah. And they're delicious. But they're not a great burger. I mean, I love the taste, but they're not a great burger. No, they're kind of a steamed baked burger. Yeah, with onions. So they're so right. The onions are delightful. The burgers are now so thin that they're like paper. And the buttons are so

inflated. Yes, you're right. They're slightly too thinner than a slice of cheese. They're 99% error because you can take like a slider and put it in your mouth. You don't even have to chew. It's going to disappear now. Yeah, that's why it's called Slider. I would understand how it works. It's kind of like the wife loves these little mints that there's one company makes these peppermint things that you put them in your mouth, they just disintegrate. Is it kind of what a slider does? And I like.

That's why you almost have to ask for extra pickle, because then there's at least something you can chew. That's about all you're getting that doesn't disintegrate extra. That's true. The pickles, you can actually feel nothing else. That's not the meat, not the bun, the pickles. You got. Yeah, well. That's why I love me some pickles, too. Now, now that I'm a shawarma nut, you got to have some good pickles. Are you. Are you eating a lot of shawarma? About once a week. I am not a fan of trauma.

I prefer kebabs. Though. The kabobs are great too. They make those too. The the trauma is basically minced meat. It's. It's chopped up meat that is then kind of molded together. It's very burrito like. Yeah. So it's kind of like. The. Arab burrito. The Yes, the Arabic burrito. It's I do find that the the bread is actually quite a bit tastier than the burrito. Yes. totally. Yes. Well, I think the place here that I mean, all the breads, freshly made. it's delightful.

And you can you can do it in a you can get it with pita, too, and do it more like a euro. But I like the. So the price of a whopper 719 right now for a. Single whopper. Wow. So you're a whopper. I'm looking at the Burger King app right now. You got me hungry. So I'm looking at stuff. You like the home of the Whopper right here. And unrelenting. Yeah. Not brought to you by whoppers. The impossible whoppers. 819. God, that's disgusting. And then Texas Whopper is 999. And what is that?

Well, it's, you know, for 2090 calories is what it is. We that'll keep you up all night. No, it won't. Hold up. Nothing. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So it's it's basically 1090 calories for the burger and 500 calories for the phrase. That's a carb load. Now, would you like a a sugared drink with that. Yeah, you got. Dude, give me a frosty. 3300 calories for Frosty. That's for Frosty the burger and fries. Okay, so your little sugar meter, man, I want to just.

Could you put that eat that and then just show a video of. The Burger King app? Dude, I'm not I'm not plugging my meter and then watching the sugar go to crazy levels by eating burgers and. Be like, let's see what's going on here. While Jee ended serious trouble. Meat in there either. I mean, that's the thing is like the amount of carbs in a Burger King whopper is pretty high. Yes. Yeah. You got the Texas whopper more than the triple whopper. That makes no sense.

How much meat you got, babies, That extra Texas meat. Triple whopper is 1170 calories because it has an extra thing of meat. Whew. The Texas whopper. it's got bacon and cheese, that's why. well, you got to have bacon. If you're gonna have a burger, you got to have some bacon on it. do, do, do. Do, do. I went to lunch. Went to lunch with my lawyer yesterday. And is there some impending litigation that might have you missing a few shows in the near future? Possibly. Possibly. But it's all good.

But the first time ever he paid, so I felt like it was a special day when a lawyer picks up the tab. And the other thing that was hilarious about him paying was, yeah, two Jews sitting at the, burger, a chow eating bacon wrapped chicken and parmesan pork. But was it delicious? it's always delicious. I love that stuff, man. When your lawyer picks up the bill, that usually beats this really bad news on the horizon. So you like it?

There we see you're going to be making us a lot of money in the near future. There's probably a hundred grand worth of spam coming up. Yeah, I'll pick it up. Don't worry about it. We don't want you to even think about going with a different law firm. We're the nice guys that watch a lot. Remember? That's right. And I'm in the I've had them for over a decade, so it's the first time in ten years, But it's it's. It's fine. It's all good. These people load. Up my car. He's a good lawyer.

Well, that's. Good. I've used them a bunch of times for stuff, so I think he's good, although he does never actually do the work. So he's other people. He's a partner. Hey, as long as he's got good people doing the work that you need done. Yeah, exactly. I think that's the important bit. But I love love me some for to show. What you me the. Point not the only one. Yeah I'm sure. We cause you know that proteins are good for you. Yeah, well, we've talked about it before.

You don't have any up there right now. We do. I've never been. We have what I. Thought was some other brand. I know. I think there's one up here. It's not, it's fucking, it's not super close, but I mean that's a close enough. Like it's close as we can get to like, Gibsons for some reason, we're out in the middle of, of like, nowhere where the nicer, expensive restaurants want nothing to do with this for some reason. They probably charge you too much of these suburbs. We should get one, man.

I think that. I don't know. I think their prices is pretty reasonable for what you get. If you could eat a lot of meat, then. You can eat a lot of meat. Now, there's a cold opener. But you think it's not a very good one and. Will come up with better. Chicago, Illinois is located at River North. So good at chow. Okay, there you go. But you've never been there. No. No. Okay. Have you been through other tourist areas? The only one existed briefly out here and then closed.

But yes, it was another Brazilian steakhouse. Kind of maybe it wasn't as fancy quite as this, but yeah, and then it Disney World. There is one that, that is in the, the Polynesian Hotel, which is a little bit of a Polynesian vibe to it, but it's the same kind of thing that they carry around the big skewers we got meat, we got steak, we got pork, we got it all. Yeah. There is one in Oak Brook that would be the closest one up. Okay, well, maybe we've had out there on special occasion or something.

When Gene is incarcerated, the wife and I'll go, I'd be like, Whew! They finally put that bastard in jail. yeah, that's. That's worth celebrating. Yeah, it all depends if there's a big, big check coming our way for information given to the authorities. Exactly that they. Got to spend that reward somehow. Baby. Hey, man. He would like this. Yes. Yes. You got one in Dallas. You got one. I've been on the most wanted list for years, and no one's ever found me.

It's that beard, man under the beard, Jean. Looks like you know Gary Cooper. Man, you would not believe. Gary Cooper. On Back Away. We were like, Who's Gary? Yeah, Yeah. You might as well say daring to. Though. Danny Kaye was a good one, too. I remember seeing him on Bewitched. Really? Yeah, he did. He did a stint, and he was like the. really? He was Sultan on Bewitched. Like her. Her father was something weird. You never know. So what else going on? Any comedians?

We talk about the need to Dyson and Richard Lewis. It's like, wait. I'm like, I'm like, I didn't remember. I didn't. I didn't go look through the the archives or anything or the transcripts. But we did. We definitely did talk about them when we were talking about Curb Your Enthusiasm, but that was quite a few shows ago. So that was not an immediate kind of like we talked about somebody and next thing you know. Right. If anything it was a slow burn. Definitely a slow burn.

And I think that was one of the questions like, why haven't we seen him curb lately? Because the the regulars still doing the show, but we haven't really seen Richard. And he was a big part of it initially. Would you like you know, he was a fake friend, right? A fake friend? It was, yeah. Like he was a hired actor. He was not actually friends with Larry David, but he was hired to play Larry's friend. nice. Yeah. So they only got to know each other after he was hired.

But the character of Richard Lewis, he was playing was, you know, like an old friend of Larry's from New York. But believable, obviously. yeah. Yeah. Mean, yeah. You take a bunch of those neurotic Jews. In the. Eighties. Yeah, they're all friends, right? They all. They have to know each other, right? Yeah. Yeah. Unless they're completely antisocial, like Larry David and just went home immediately after performing. Why would anybody ever leave the house? I mean, I don't understand.

These days, I think most people don't understand. People like, you know, the good. Thing. So the first time I saw my lawyer not wearing a suit. yeah. What was he wearing? A it's wearing a tracksuit, say, Adidas tracksuit. Yeah. And I was like, dude, out of uniform. This is totally a bad sign for you. That he picked up. Lunch, But he was wearing the Adidas tracksuit. Yeah, well, he's just clearly, they've changed their standard outfits in the firm.

Well, when you're out and about this whole concept of making it look like you're professional is overrated. I agree. I mean, I never got that with. I mean, shit. When I worked at Circuit City or RadioShack, you had to wear the jacket. You have to. Wear a tie with a short sleeved shirt. Yeah, Like, what the hell, man? Why do you need a well, also the jacket. So, I mean, you had to wear a white coat. Yeah. No. Yeah. Did you really? Yeah. I thought they just wear short sleeved shirts for the day.

No. No, I mean, Best Buy, maybe Circuit City ahead. The Best Buy was blue shirts, man. Yeah. You know. Way maybe you're thinking of it, Chuck, Which was the fake the the fake company that they worked for. Chuck was a great show, though. Let me say. I never watched it. You never watch Shock, Man. No. you would like Chuck? I've had some. They mentioned that there's it seems like you're done with house you know. How many do you have to go there because that's a long.

I'm in the last season man I'm on the last season. They started jumping the shark a little bit. They totally jumped the shark. It is been unbelievable at this point. Everybody's just calling you in. No one's actually trying particularly hard. But it was still a pretty entertaining show. I think they should have ended the show before they decided to. He wouldn't it be funny if we sent House to like a mental asylum or jail or something? Like they needed to stop it before them?

Well, this is why the end of MASH, which is iconic show an iconic series of episodes at the end, because I think it was over multiple nights and I'm remembering. But it's Hawkeye in the loony bin and it's like, really, this is where you want to end. It was just it was a very strange choice. Yeah. To be. That's our sendoff. Well, I'll tell you what, when we end this podcast, you'll know it as well. We'll talk about how, hey, we should do a podcast

and it will be fun thing to write and that'll be the end of the podcast. Yes. And you'll never hear from us ever again. Nope. Unless you for all the other shows we do right. Under different names, which are totally your donations for this show, do not carry over. When we get to unrelenting. To other shows, it's it every year. Every year we change the name slightly. Yes. Unrelenting. you were working on that thousand dollar or whatever title. I'm sorry. Yeah, that was the other podcast. Yeah.

This project. This is totally different show. Don't you understand? Don't you understand? I mean, if you want to support the show, you just go to Unrelenting that show all the information. Because we don't have ads. That's why you should support us. Because remember, most podcasts out there have advertising. We don't. And it's getting. We don't do ad reads or anything. Which is worse than anything else. It's the ad I like. Some shows. From the people like. Gab. It does ad reads. Gab from what?

Because CSB censored things. And that's really all I was. I was listening to Gab and I heard that there was an ad read on the show. And then one of the co-hosts that I appreciate having had reads. Well, especially because the ad was for just two good old boys. Well, it. Doesn't really matter what the ad was for. It's irrelevant. I'm just saying from a, you know, listener standpoint that I am. A show with a long bearded guy and a tech professional, just two good old boys.

That that's also a description of the other guy. You know, good old boys is also a guy, you know. That's what I said the one day two dude named Bad Name better. I'm like, Hey, you're infringing on our copyright here that we don't have. Like, I see. I see why you name the show job. Now we. Fly under the radar. Just right just right under that rather nobody noticed that. Nothing about it. That's it. But we don't have that. But this is how we started talking about this episode.

No agenda with their donation segment and moving it to the end and being able to watch and see how people just tune out. Even though it's a very entertaining part. Does it matter? People are like, I got to save me some time. I got to tell you, honestly, had the segment always been on the very end, I don't think I ever really listened to it. You right. Because you were like, The show's done. Because the contents over you turn it off. That's what you do with all the movies and everything.

When they start rolling credits. If you really. Want. I'm sure there are people that listen to the post-show jingles, and I did when I listened live. But lately I don't listen live. I just played back and I never listened to the jingles either. Well, this is a big thing all across the board, whether you're talking podcasts, YouTube, that everybody wants to see where your attention wanes.

And this is why having the minute by minute kind of watching when people are jumping in and out of the show is interesting. Now, what really need to do, I think, in order to confuse everybody because the minute they know a segment is coming that's going to last any amount of time, they can tune out, they can fast forward. You almost have to throughout your show, rather than doing a donation segment would be just every now then interrupt the show with, Now you can't do that.

I know where you're going and you can't do that because that gets people to literally unsubscribe because fuck that shit to what? Just to say, Hey, we got this in from this person. Hey, thanks. Yeah, you can't be doing that. You can't be doing that interspersed throughout the show. Men. No, you. Can gets people people lose interest. That if it's quick. There's a show. I will point you to a show that that has that kind of continuous non stop advertising. Surging used to speak tor.com.

The chastity speak I waste. No, it's a show called unsubscribe this podcast. Well they were asking. If you look further, if you just do a Google for unsubscribe in the word podcast, you should be able to find that. And they have an appropriately named title because I cannot stand listening to somebody that has interrupts the conversation amongst guests literally every 5 minutes to talk about the show or do an ad for somebody or to tell you to subscribe and or something.

I'm like, Dude, I'm going to take your frickin advice and I'm subscribe right now. And the guests may be interesting. I like to listen to that show. It's I'd rather listen to those people somewhere else. They're up to episode 93, so then I leave it up. As far as we are. Come on. But I know, I know. But you know, we're in the top 1% of all podcast survival. This is true. Because. When you're in the 100 like 206 like us, right? You're definitely way up there. We refused to die.

We refused to relent. We could have just any episode one remaining and then moved to a different name. So the feds can't find us. That's right. Yeah, that's can't find us. Yeah, because the feds just go on podcasting 2.0 and do a search by one of the longest running podcasts, because clearly they're up to no good. Those are the ones we got to look at. So what is the secret sauce then, of getting support from an audience that is it. And well, you don't want ad based. That's number one.

So to have an audience supported show, I mean, there are shows that do it with things like Patriot Hour Buddy that. I think the the Who are these as a viewer slash listener, my preferred method of doing that, including shows that I've donated money to is you mentioned something initially right off the get go quickly that you are user supported, listener supported, you don't have ads, blah, blah, blah. So if you want to send something our way, here's how you do it.

You want to make sure you tell people how to do it. And the best way to do it is just PayPal gene at surging nudge. Okay, what's what's our official PayPal? I don't know if we actually have one because it comes into my PayPal. Yeah. And then you forget to send me Make sure that's true. That's why I'm asking what's efficient. Every time there's no it's there in some them. It's there in something.

There you go folks send money to Darren something on PayPal I got like and something dot com probably. I have so many emails on PayPal now. I don't think there's. A dedicated, unrelenting one that's being noticed because you don't have to you set up the thing and then it's marked as unrelenting for like the the donation. Yeah. Hey did you go or just jump into the troll room and said, you suck. So thanks, buddy. Thanks for hanging in. It's the kind of thing people.

Did you grow? He's from the city here. He's from Chicago. From the city? Yeah. Okay. So he knows you. So that's why he's saying you suck. Yeah. He's going to take me over to Fogo the chow over in Oakbrook, and I'll do some damage. that's nice of him. That's what I thought. Yeah. Have ourselves a We're going to. Be wearing a tracksuit. I wasn't planning. I don't have one. But is that do is it like in a fancy restaurant? We're like, you don't have a jacket here. Let's provide one for you. Is this.

I want to go to the new Jean, the restaurant where it's like, you don't have to do this tracksuit. Well, we can provide one for you. Everybody in the restaurant is wearing an Adidas tracksuit. That would be fantastic. That would be both a fantastic comic content CSB and it would be a pretty damn nice restaurant. There you go. Would everybody have to be in the same color tracksuit, though, where they all be white and then you're serving barbecue? That could be fun too. Yeah, that would be.

I do usually wear a white shirt when I go to Fargo just as a challenge. Just to see if you can keep it Virgin and green all the way through. Because having the getting back to shows that are supported. Yeah. That's a balancing act. Yeah. So once at the beginning and then a longer version of that at the end of the show for the people that bothered listening to the whole thing. But I think if you do it more than twice it works against you.

Like hey crowd support the show, don't be a douche. I'm but the people. Who don't watch Twitch, it's because it's nonstop money. Big money. Yeah, but if it's hot chicks, you'll watch. There's no hot chicks on twitch, dude. Guys, Chicks that are drawn to be hot. They all went to only fans. Yeah, they're all fans.

Yeah, but. The. You know, as much as it's more of an antiquated system, the guys that do who are these podcasts seem to be doing fairly well with Patreon it's a little different the tell them Steve Dave which is out of the Kevin Smith buddies thing I have not subscribed to their patron in a while, so I don't know. The content may have changed, but at least they were giving bonus extra content. The normal show was still going along, was still free. It wasn't limited. They didn't cut it.

Now that you want to hear the end because that sucks. But they still. I don't know that people need billings content though. Like I've been signed up for Tim Paul's thing, Deal club, whatever you want to call it. I give money every month. That's called Are you being a John and him being a prostitute? No, not really, because I don't really use the benefits from that. And I mean, you like. Using it as a way to move money.

Yeah, because what I can do is I can log into the website and then watch the extra hour after show where they all swear and. Well, they're like, Well, except that. Yeah, there's an hour every day of bonus content. You. But my point is it's there it's available. They make it. I almost never watch it I maybe once a month out of all out of every day. But did that make up your mind to start giving them money? Because that would also be the other question.

Yeah, it it did definitely influence my deciding to start giving them money. But honestly, after I started giving them money, I have no interest brilliance stopping giving them money because I do like what Tim's doing. I like that he's bringing people on the show with a big audience. You know, he's got the largest live audience and YouTube. What is he pulling in now? Per video? The live stream numbers I think are getting close to a million. Okay, That is fairly impressive being.

On a daily basis. The nightly race he is, he's got a bigger audience than all the TV networks. Yeah, he's outperforming CNN. Absolutely. Where he's outperforming Fox. Fox is close, I think, in some of the shows to a million, but that. For maybe they've talked about it that like multiple times when they check they're they're usually ahead of FOX and I'm viewership. And doing it on a shoestring budget on some network that you and I could. Use on a shoestring budget.

I don't know what. Happened to Fox News. I mean, I'm not saying he's not. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not a. Lot of money into a. Studio building corporation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's but. Also. You could do in your home for like if you had $50. Has no ads and occasionally he'll have one and. If you had to produce the set, the cameras, the microphone, you had to build this under 50 grand. For what he's I'd say probably around that around 50.

But right now he's been in the process of having a new studio built for them. Which he's got too much money. He's got to have a write off somewhere. He's got a lot of money, man. Yeah, I think last time he talked about it, he said that he became a millionaire about 12 years ago, like way before Amy, you know, before people really knew about him and see at this point, his personal net worth is over 12 million. Needs that write off needs jeans, $5 a month.

But he's got his you know, he does need my five bucks a month. He's got maybe it's ten. I don't even know. But he's got yeah, I'm scared. The chicken farms, he's got the coffee production facilities there. He's got he's building a coffee shop in downtown of the city that they're in all these diversified. He's diversifying like crazy man, and he's doing a lot of money. Like there was somebody that was the legal fund for some. Something happened recently and they were looking for him. it was.

I think somebody get accused of racism or something is or one of these defamation things. And they were looking to get $100 in Go fund me and he donated ten grand Nice. Yeah he's standing up for the people that need a little Yeah. And and he's got a super cheap wardrobe. It's a black t shirt. Black hat. A hell of a lot easier when you don't have any money to pay on wardrobe. Yeah. Yeah. And wardrobe budget is basically ten of the same thing. It's all you need. Don't need anything more.

Right? Yeah. Yeah. The write offs. I mean, have you seen Marquez Brownlee, YouTube, MKB, HP? There was a couple. Much occasionally. He did, and. I think he's pretty good. I just, like, I don't normally subscribe to his content. Yeah, if you don't watch the video, he just got a studio space in New York. I mean, that'll make Tim Paul, like, drool. I mean, it's just amazing. The, well, one, the amount of space because if it is in New York

where I think it is, you know what it costs. To. Get in there. And then he had like these little robotic things that move the cameras around and he's like, this thing is like, you know, 120 grand. But, you know, Yeah, just for fun. Yeah. Like, damn. That's that's what. Doesn't pay for Jack shit. He gets everything for free. Well, I'm sure he is. Said everything in the office that he. Wasn't one of his videos. He actually got paid to talk about it. Not the other way around. Well, yeah.

Tesla freakin gave them a car for a month. Yeah, It's like these are the kinds of things like, Hey, come on, please talk about us, because you have a huge audience. Yeah, yeah. And the for Tesla, he may very well have done it for free, but for most of these things he discusses, he's getting paid 800 grand, talked about something. And then he has the shoe brand. So just like Trump, he's got his own. He's producing shoes. And just like Trump, I'm pretty sure his shoes were around before Trump's.

Yes, well, Trump was following him. Gary Vaynerchuk even made his own shoes and they sucked. And so does gaming. Gary Vaynerchuk Dude, he just showed up in my email box for the first time in a while because he's like, going back to basics, doing another like wine show. And I was like, okay, I want to see what he's do with this time. Yeah. And I tried listening for the first 3 minutes, the audio sucked, sucked. You couldn't even hear him. I'm like, What the fuck, dude?

You were doing this before everybody else. Zoom or something. Like you were doing this. He buddy out. You have to be able to hear what you're saying. So that the the back story on him is, you know, he's a kid of immigrants. Yeah. Made money selling baseball cards. Yeah. He was always a bit of a shyster. And his parents owned a liquor store. Yeah. And so he basically started doing marketing for them. And that was the genesis of the giving. Gary Vaynerchuk wine, whatever it was.

The wine library TV was the first. Yeah. The Yeah. So it was, it was just marketing for the store. That's what it started us and people seem to like it. You know what? Because why him as somebody who doesn't really drink wine. I understand the market enough to know that there are $5 bottle of wines and there are thousands of dollar bottles of wines and I don't know the difference. And I think that leads to an opening. For.

That kind of content because people don't want to look like an idiot If you're going to the liquor store, if you're out to dinner, like, wow, I don't know what they should. I don't they. I, I don't think they do. You want to look like an idiot when you go out. And I don't, but people do. Some people want to look like an idiot, or they go, Just give me the most expensive. That must be the best. Yeah, most. I mean, a lot of people are drinking like, really shitty.

Went to the drinking bottles or three boxes of wine. Good box. Wine is hard find. Yeah. And there a I remember somebody talked about this that was in the industry is how it was very unfortunate that first companies to adopt using a novel packaging scheme of boxes for wine were cheap winemakers because it's a superior design for selling wine, for shipping wine and for drinking wine. You know the thing you want. It doesn't. Oxidize. Right? And no light.

Yeah, no light, no oxidization and it's cheaper than the bottle and it's square so you can store a lot more of them in the same space. There's so many pros to using a box, but because it's the the companies that made super cheap wine were the first ones to adopt this technology. Nobody else can because no one wants to be the expense of box wine because it's going to be a laughing stock instead of being, you know, treated as a good wine. We have a and there are a few have tried there were some.

Yeah yeah there there are some better quality ones than our box wines out there but they're really like swimming against the current. Yeah. Well there was ones on Shark Tank that were trying to do like glass by glass, which is even if those. Worked, those, those totally went Yeah. Those doing gangbusters man. Like, I just wonder those. Are good investments. Well yeah, yeah. I mean anywhere you buy them in grocery stores here. You could be like, give me one of them. Just want a glass of wine.

I want a glass of wine that I'm going to drink since I got in my car. While I tracked my kids to soccer practice. They're the reason some. Stranger with the kids in the car. yeah? Yeah, yeah. That was what I was watching. That was, you know, my original thought was, well, this is going to be way harder if you can't get people to buy this in bulk. Although I guess you can have a higher profit margin. The smaller it's some way higher profit margin.

People are willing to pay for it because generally it's a fairly cheap, not a super cheap, but fairly cheap wine. And you're selling it for about the quarter of the cost of the bottle. But there's actually seven glasses per bottle. And you're getting the convenience factor. We were taking it out to pick that go going on to see little Jimmy play Little league. I'll have some wine with me. Yeah. And you might as well bringing a box.

But since you don't think box wines are good, you're going to bring one of those. Yeah. And they have a fancy little glass. You can just pull the top off. I don't. Know. It's. They sold them at the park here for a while. Did they? Yeah. yeah, It's been like, it's been like over two years now, but I haven't had a drink. You've been a lot more fun since that, too. I don't know about that, but I feel better. Though. That's key. I get to now be up at 4 a.m. Twittering and Xingu.

I don't know if that's good for you. I did start, but I. There's no way I would have been able to do that if I was drinking. He would barely be able to get up to do the show. Barely. I don't know. Maybe I just I think that's one of the biggest things I know for myself at the age that I can stop drinking, which is 50, is is that right? I guess after 50, I stopped drinking, but 50 ish. And is that when I didn't drink at all for like several weeks, I had noticeably more energy now.

Now that's like the default state. So I don't feel like I have more. I feel like I have, you know, whatever amount the standard amount of energy. And, you know, I was drinking, I probably had less makes sense. But but that's that's you know, when I was young, dude, I was I don't think there was a time in my life where I don't think a single day would go by in a year that I wasn't drinking with somebody. That's a very normal thing. We had. We had. A friend. Dude, come on.

That's like a guy with everything, right? It's not. Yeah, but I'm talking about the. The US. I mean. Yeah. You still Russia. The Russian part is DNA when we it's my DNA. Yeah that's right. And boy this could be one to get a piece of that DNA. He wants a little Russian, then. He wants to verify and confirm your pure blood. Russian. He wants that killer instinct that Vlad the Terrible has. Right. It's. It's funny.

So I was actually watching a video game video the other day in Polish, and it's to see how many words different languages borrow from English. yeah. And that's that was I read something the other day about the easiest languages to learn if you're a an English speaker, maybe I should point out exactly that, that a lot of these like very close, you know, you can pick up certain languages way. More. Easily than others. I don't think any languages are easy. You only speak English?

No, not extremely, but easier than others. Is it? Nothing's like English. Everything's kind of far away from it. And German is probably the closest. But German is not easy to learn if you speak English. Like if you speak Spanish, Italians pretty easy to learn. If you speak Russian, then all the Slavic languages are pretty easy to learn. If if you speak Latin, then all the romance languages are pretty easy to learn. But English is kind of a, you know. A bastardized language.

It's like I said, maybe I'm wrong in this. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure that German is the closest language to English. All I know is I saw somebody post on the set of verse. Yeah. Wow. The friend of hers. There you go. I know. And they tagged CSB and it was allegedly the contestants. For. Miss Poland. This year. Like almost all. Be hot blonds, hot white blonds. It's like that's not a lot of diversity there. And in Poland I see why it might.

Not there's enough to say there's plenty do that's so see yeah. A polish stereotypically like look in Polish Czechs were always blond in my experience. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like it's really if you think of a stereotypical woman from Dallas, Texas. I don't know what that looks like, except for, like, Sue and big hair blond. Right. Well, I'm thinking Dallas from like, the 1980s. It's like. Yeah, yeah, that's the like that's the to what a Polish Czech would look like.

There are certainly people with dark hair in Poland too, that are Polish. But but my stereotypical experience, I guess, with Polish women is that they're old ones. Yeah, that would make sense. And like actual blonds. Fake blonds. Yeah. Not bottled. Yeah. my God. I remember when I said that type of phrase, somebody talked about how, you know, I only have an affinity for redheads, but really, the real redheads, not the fake redheads. They didn't like that.

And holy shit that piss off this one checked. That is like, Well, what do you mean, what do you mean, fake redheads? You know, if I choose the color of my hair red, I mean, I'm more red than the redheads that were born that way because they didn't even choose. It's like, Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold it. Hold up. Slow your roll. You're not natural, baby. You know? I mean, you might have great, but if there's a dick down there, I ain't real. The whole package ain't doing it for me. It's the if.

Yeah. Have to do something to get to where you're at, then you can't call that not fake. Right. But they can because this is the new sickness in society is. No, you have to call me by the pronoun that I want you to or you have to do this. You have to do that. Now they can call themselves even. They want I'm on my own now. I have no obligation. Well, just soon you will. They'll be putting you in jail. Well, we're not in Canada, so we're lucky because it seems they're going down that route of.

Well, if you post speech on the Internet. Yeah, they totally will do that. But here's a thing. That is so fucked. I mean, Canada, when I was young, used to be like basically one big country that was a Boy Scout camp. Right? Right. Yeah. The whole country was that. And, you know, they were nice. They were they they were nice to their mothers. They said please and thank you. And you had to learn how to live in the woods and tapped maple trees. And that was your experience.

And maple sirup is delicious. Yeah, well, we have that in Vermont and stuff too, but yeah, yeah. Three them maples. Good. We'll See? SB Like birch Sirups really good too. I don't think. I've ever tried that. Let's see. SB posted something about saying please and thank you to the I for when they take over that maybe they'll be nicer to you. I always do that Whenever I tell Alexa, you gotta do something. Tell me. She just said it and I say thank you.

I do too, because I. I do it purposefully because I think if I stop doing that, I'll stop doing that to regular people as well. Like when you go into. I'm just doing it for when they take over. Here. Yeah, you've got a strategy. I have no illusions there. No I know that's, it's not a question of if it's a question when. It's like Yeah. So instead of where some people with their devices are like, yeah, give me the weather, we're like.

if you're not doing the number of people that call their devices like bitch and cunt and everything else is crazy. Hey, you. Talking about wives or their devices. Devices? I said, okay, yeah, it's a give me an x ray because nobody calls their wife. That would say it's very it's not. For like not for long at all. No. And I rewatched the episode of South Park the other day, which takes place in the future. You remember that one week where all the guys are like in their thirties?

No, I must have missed that. I Watched the. Last that watch it. I only saw the last. To see once it switched over to Paramount. So watching it like why I downloaded the last two seasons, although that was only like ten episodes. So I need to go back to their super short. But yeah, yeah. Grab the current episode. It's a two parter and they're all adults and stuff.

But in their in their early on you could see ran this kid what's his name Sam being talking like driving the car with this woman and he's talking to her like gets his wife and then you notice that he's addressing her as Alexa and then, and then she's, you know, bickering and arguing with them like wives do. And and then he says, stop, Alexa, just stop. And then you see her image disappear. And so when you realize, like, the future Alexis will actually be holograms.

Yeah. And they'll actually interact with you non stop. Okay. Okay. You know, I have said again and again, if you were somebody who had that name as your legal name before these devices came out, I would be suing Amazon into the ground because they screwed you. totally. Yeah. They screwed you. Did you? Gloria says he'd like to see a cage match between Kevin O'Leary and Mark Cuban. I don't know how that would go. I think Kevin O'Leary would bite Mark Cuban, and I guarantee you he would.

And, you know, Cuban. He's. He's too damn tall, right? Yeah, He's a big guy. Tall You are. The faster you fall down. Yeah, but you also, as long as you're not falling, you, we've got a chance to. Yeah but you seven O'Leary is, is he's like a Chihuahua. He didn't bite you right away. Yeah, he's a little pitbull little dog. I think maybe a Chihuahua is better. Yeah, whatever Pitbull truly is, he's just getting grab on to the ankle and not let go.

So I think that cage, man, I would love to see it in the sense that Cuban definitely is a somebody. It must be taken down a few steps. Well he is successful. In his own cool. Yeah this I agree with this. Not successful. He had the one good deal. He has the. Money been living off of it? Yes, he was literally a character they made fun of in Silicon Valley. The show with that said. He was that guy That. Was the the guy with the car and the. Billion, the billionaire guy.

It's like, hey, man, you want another Cuba? That was the cowboy. That's all he cared about is the Three Comma Club, right? Let's say you got to be in that. Hey, I'm looking for my I want to get into the Three Comma Club, baby. Come on. I'm working my way there. And the. $2. Yeah, I think there's there's a few girls that have gotten to that point in their body counts by this time. Right? They're busy. Very busy. But, I mean, I mark Cuban.

I think even though he is successful in a different way, he made the money. He invested in some companies that he's not a total pretender. But I agree with you that he's self aggrandizing. Is that the proper word himself? Yeah. Little. Yeah. He would if he didn't manage to sell that HD, that TV channel that he stirred up. If he did not sell that, he would be a guy no one's ever heard of. Still trying to make like his 10th million right now.

You know, Larry started with some kind of educational software or some software. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That's like just boring software ship in Canada. Well, it's it takes off and enough people get involved that people buy. Yeah. This is why all the I'm surprised unless maybe it has and I'm just not seeing it now that these large language models make it easier for people to do shitty programing and make sure the apps like is they're better. They're not shitty.

I don't think it's fair to call the stuff that they writes shitty. It's it's very standardized code. So if you really those comes down to if you have an idea on something that could be helpful, that would be an app. Instead of going to hire a actual programmer. Developer. Right. Rather than going to. Hire somebody that knows how to speak A.I.. Rather than going to Fiverr and finding somebody India willing for five bucks an hour to help you write your program value. For that.

Value, just go to the AI and say, I need, you know, whatever you're working in code that does this, and then you just punch it in and go, I mean, I'm sure I mean, I've never tried that. I should I would be very interested to see how like a I could do Bumrah's wrote that fabulous Ryan Bevers from Grumpy Old Men's wrote. Room. A very simplistic chapters. App in Yeah. For Windows in the what do you call it PowerShell.

Yeah PowerShell that is able to you just type in the time code you type in the chapter name or the image or the URL and then it puts it all together in a JSON. It would probably be fairly. I wonder if I could just go to chat GPT and be like, write me this. Yeah, you could. Then boom, it just kicks it right on out. Yeah. Ish. Guys. Right. You might that you need another AI to proofread it to figure out where the problem is. Exactly. Exactly. I didn't think it was.

I mean it is a is definitely being used a lot by developers right now because it's way faster than looking shit up online through a bunch of website examples to do something. Now you just what you're trying to do but like everything else, you're just creating a new job category. And the new job category is an API interpreter. Wrangler You wanted a wrangler. You're basically need to hire somebody that understands how to talk to the AI to get it to do what you're trying to do right?

Which is still you're still going to pay somebody. It just may not be somebody called developer. That makes sense. I thought it was a. Must, unless you want to learn how to talk. I thought it was very interesting that a girl forget what college it was, was accused of AI in a paper. And her claim, I mean, again, this is the world. You never know what's true, what's not. But her claim was she only used Grammarly. Yeah, so hear it. But it's an allowed API because it's only to correct your grammar.

It wasn't a do you know grammar test. This was so there was no there was nothing that said you couldn't use that. And I think there's a big difference between having an API that's your grammar and having an API that's writing your prose. They're not really, really good grammar. No grammar really does way more than correct your grammar. Incidentally, it's also Ukrainian company, so I got rid of it. But I know. I know. Right after I paid for it. You told me that.

Yeah. Yeah. There's a different one that I use that is not. It's got pro writing aid. They're not Ukrainian, it's just like grammarly. Very similar, but think they they're not quite as. Gotten Jensen's fix your own grammar you don't. Well you to that nobody does that dude as some of these written books. No you have other people do that. Every time one of these things whether it's grammarly or pro writing it or any time one of them throws in like a semicolon, I'm like, Fuck, I didn't.

I needed to set my goal in there, but what the fuck is a semicolon? Well, that's when you have a list of things. Yeah. And you're separating them. But yeah, I can. And then sometimes you. Go to grammar school, though. And then you get the dash. They don't even have grammar school anymore. They have elementary school. My. You know, you got the dashes, you got the colon, you got the semicolons, you got all these things. And it's like, I don't know, you know what it was.

You got to get Brownie. You're cold. Feet problem. You know, way more than the current generation does. Well, they don't know how to do anything related to writing. This is true. They don't even want to use capital letters because they are. They are they can only and they can only print lowercase. Right. Because capital letters are aggressive. They don't want to trigger anybody. Yeah. And that would no periods or something where aggressive were too. There was like period.

Yeah. There was a whole thing at one point to like you guys are just fucking nuts. Well periods are aggressive. I don't want to deal with blood. This was that We're in grammar, We're talking grammar. God. I thought we moved up. We don't want to. Just all of. They want all of the text of the internet to be coming, you know, just all lowercase, no punctuation. I guess maybe it would be a better world. Could you imagine if all the fake news stories were just put in that kind of a format?

Yeah. It'd be just like the best movie in the world, Wouldn't the Idiocracy? You mean that's the best movie in the world? T I'm glad. You think so. You thought I knew where you were going with it. Because even though you are, like, sleep deprived and tired, I can still hear that little synaptic going off Idiocracy. Maybe I'll have to watch that up like 4000 more times. Then I'll be like, Dude, I finally get it. I know, I know.

I think you were just I don't know what your expectations were, but clearly they mismanaged the movie because I was laughing my ass off. So I watched another movie that Ben recommended that Ben couldn't also believe that you didn't like Idiocracy, but he recommended a movie I'd never seen called God Bless America. Have you seen this movie? That's a very generic title look. It up came out maybe 15 years ago ish. That was probably too busy getting laid. I doubt it. God Bless America 2011.

Yeah. No, that does not look familiar. I don't think he was in that one show like that one. So you're right about that. That one show, the guy. Yeah, he usually plays of those guys. Yeah. The one like he's going to tell you why you're stupid. he was in mad. For. 15 years. So the basic premise is you got a guy who is just miserable in a lot of things in life as men tend to be, and just putting up with everything. And then he ends up snapping and wanting to.

Well, he's always been kind of thinking about wanting to shoot people or kill people. And then finally he snaps and does it and boy, does it feel good. So it's a movie about mass murder. It's a it's a it's a dark comedy about a love story between a mass murderer and an underage girl. well, what could go wrong? So clearly, major Hollywood promotions for this one when it came out that it is very self-aware, meaning it's poking fun at a lot of things.

It's saying like it's not saying shit. Seriously. It's well, it like it's serious, but then it's actually making fun of itself. But I really enjoyed it. I was genuinely laughing and really say that I was I mean, literally no howling. I was genuinely howling. And I don't say that, you know, lightly because not many things make me laugh out loud in real life. And this movie did.

I was watching it by myself, and there were a number of occasions where I laughed out loud at the stuff that was happening. So another recommendation came through. Ben, I would suggest you watch it. I'm sure you in fact, it's free. I watched it for free on Amazon right now on Prime. So I will. I will add this to the list when it's written and directed by Bobcat GOLDTHWAIT. You know it's going to be.

Yeah and that's I was going to save that to the last you beat me to the punch because I was going to say and by the way, it is yet another movie that was written by the great writer of Shakes the Crown. Wow. Shakes the Cloud is a Gracie. Now, that's a great movie. That is a comedy classic. Well, the new will enjoy this one. That's all I can say. I love Shakes the Clown. The people. If you haven't seen. Shakes the Clown hates you. Yeah. I mean, that's one that I think we can agree on.

That's a movie we both put on the list. Yeah. Bobcat is a you know, whether he's Bob or Bobcat, depending on the day of the week. These. He was pretty damn funny. shit. I think we just killed Bob Broadway. no, he's still alive, so that's good today. He is, but. Well, what about tomorrow? True. If we by the next show. About the Knicks. The curse. The curse. The curse lives on. Now, have you ever. Wanted to talk about comedians?

Have you ever the probably consider it a dramedy sports night that only lasted two years, a half hour comedy slash dramedy. It has the word sports in it. So I'm going to take a no. It has nothing to do with sports. It's all about it's very, very, very loosely based on ESPN, and it follows the people that do the show rather. Than. Following the sports.

So but it was yeah, So that would be a no. there were some moments in there that literally was the last time I could probably remember with the television show laughing out loud. And there was one particular bit I remember playing for a buddy of mine that came over. I'm like, You've got to see this show. He fell on the floor laughing, could not even speak because the was just so ruffled. We are so literally and that rarely happens in real literally raffled.

And it's like it was just a very well-written show and it had some of the most witty dialog and it was such a shame that it didn't last. Longer than that But that's true of most shows with great dialog. That's I my perfect example that is is Arrested Development which was started and stopped like three times over the course of all the episodes because they kept canceling it because people didn't get it.

And it is absolutely in my mind in the top ten of the best written shows in the history of television. Yeah, Sports Night was Aaron Sorkin's first series. Sorkin Sure. Yeah, he's good. It came in right is like the year before.

I think the West Wing started the year after, which is why I don't think Sorkin really cared about what happened with Sports Night after the first two seasons, because people were hoping they were going to pick up for a third act, but they were one of the first shows that I ever remember seeing where. The actors. Would be delivering their lines while walking through hallways and things like that, where they held the cameras, obviously in front of them.

Yeah, but it's way harder to do than standing in one place and in delivery. It's a three person operation. Yeah. Yes. You got one guy facing the correct direction with guiding a guy who's walking backwards and keeping the cables and everything else moving. And then there's the camera guy himself. Then the people are actually doing their jobs and putting saying their lines while making sure they don't, you know, and fall while doing it. Everybody gets a lot of exercise, though.

True. True. This was it was a hell of a crowd that they employed on the show. Josh Charles. It went out to a bunch of different things. Peter Kraus, Felicity Huffman, Sabrina Lloyd, you know, from sliders, Robert de Ohm As the station manager, we just. funny. It was a fantastic cast and just so, so well-written. and William Macy also was in there for six episodes who stole the show when he was on it for six episodes? Like good character actor. So that's true.

But that would go at the top of my highly recommend if you can watch something, let's tell the quick 22 minute episodes. You'll be through the whole series within about a weekend. It just wings. Wings. I saw that who was in Wings. And. Wanted to Do you want to eat wings? Is that what you're saying? yeah. I was thinking food. I'm getting kind of thinking about lunch. I thought you were talking about the show, not Paul McCartney. And watch the show Wings occasionally.

I was never like a super diehard fan or anything, but it had some good episodes. It was like the guys that ran the airport on Nantucket. And Monk was in it. Adrian Monk. Before he was like. Yes, before he was Monk. Why can't I remember his actual name? Tony Shalhoub. Yeah, the. The cab driver. Lebanese guy. Antonio Scarpa Carpaccio Yeah. Even though he's Lebanese. If you say so. I didn't get to do it. You wouldn't see us being some guy.

That club where you check everybody's DMS, the minute, they walk through the door. Absolutely. It's called being a Slavic person. Yes. What are you telling me what you are? I ask that of strangers all the time, and people don't seem to understand why. Anthony Marks Well, that's an interesting last name. So where does your mother come from exactly? He was born and raised in Green Bay. Is American is. No, he's more American than you are. I'm sorry. Yeah, well, he's a Lebanese dude as far as.

Yes. Well, they said his father owned a grocery chain. He emigrated from Lebanon as an orphan, and. I could tell I could tell by looking at his nose to determine that just from purely physical features. And his wife, the mother was born in Wisconsin to Lebanese parents. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, hundred percent right. See? There you go. Since we don't even need a DNA check, you just tell by looking at his nose. You just need to see and he will tell you if you have any question one.

Anybody. It's a new service Jena's providing. Send them a photo on an X and he will tell. You a favor. I have a favor that does DNA analysis without needing DNA. Larry, I don't think it works that way. How reliable are these results? Hey, it's as reliable as I am. Well, that's. True. There are no guarantees on anything? No, no, But this is pretty good actor. And you will get a free poncho with every DNA reading exactly that. DNA reading. I like that. That's a good friend, right? Yeah, we are.

I'm a professional DNA reader. I can tell by just the. really weird thing you have. You have equipment for this? No, no, no. Photoshop. I just use my eyes. Yes, a monitor. It gives it an called an Internet connection. It all just works together. Yeah. I can't believe you look them up. That's hilarious. That was real time. We got to know these things, man. We have to have the information. But you don't trust me? Well, no, no, I always. We're always looking to fact check immediately. Yeah.

It. He's got. Holy shit. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. Siblings. He's one of ten kids. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. They were busy. They were busy. And he's a fan of the Green Bay Packers and. Still hold season ticket. So there you go. Really? Now, that's something they didn't know. That's impressive. This is this is the things you can find out on IMDB. I'm sure you have a listing on IMDB. I should. Yeah. You didn't have to leave.

You are the producer of the producer program. That's correct. And of No Agenda. And I and I'm also a legitimate business manager that's more questionable. But. Well, I mean, I'm just saying that that that listing is roughly equivalent to being a legitimate business man. Totally legitimate. It's hard to get listed on IMDB, you know? Yeah. Have to be real. Yeah, kind of. I mean, you produce no agenda effects. One episode you were at one episode producer. They got you down for four.

What an associate producer of No Agenda. Social. Episode. It just says one day, I don't even know why. I did not add that somebody else wants to tell that to me. I think I did that artwork to it. That's a 1534. Yeah, you were. He must have been that maybe the last time you donated was episode 1534. one of them to. You 30 something. So I think I died about a year ago. The last time. I'd be about right. So right around there. But I definitely did not add that to my listing. I don't.

I never did No agenda stuff. No. Well, somebody was doing it for a while. And even like all of the art, let's see, there's a Darren O'Neil actor dramarama. No, that's not me. But I am an art director for No Agenda. So I am. congratulations. And I IMDB from 2020 to 2024. That's what we are known for. Yeah, that's very cool. And so as their director, you get to control all the artists and. Yeah, I control everything. That's nice. I'm the guy pulling the strings. You're the fluffer, right?

What's that? The real title. I'm the pre show guy. You're the fluffer, right? No agenda. Getting everybody ready. Like when you go a live television studio. For this everybody ready. Guy that comes out is like, Hey, everybody, where are you from? Anybody here From out of town? Who? Hey, what's going on? Yeah, we're getting you ready. Yeah, That's called the vamp. Yet Usually get people excited. Yeah. Get back to me. You don't really do that. I get people ready to troll. It all depends where you.

You're mostly just playing music, though. Which is? You don't think that gets people ready to troll? I've had people totally just quit everything because they heard Taylor Swift. They're like, I'm out. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly right. I'm out. Yeah. would you like to play a little Taylor Swift today? No. I don't have any ready. I would. You know how many ready. you're going to. So get kicked out of the club now. Don't have any.

At the real here that Darren O'Neil is not ready for Taylor Swift. No, I'm always ready for Taylor Swift of Taylor Swift knocked on the door. You wouldn't be. I wouldn't even say goodbye, Jane. I would just be gone. You just be out of here. Be like, where to go? Yeah. Ching, ching. Ching, ching ching. Yeah. I don't have it. I don't know what we. If you met Taylor Swift in. In real life form. In real life form? Yeah. What were your first words be? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

It's not a great way to start the conversation. Be, like, so. Like it'd be like having a habit of have that. That. No, I think I'm way beyond that. I mean, I've met enough hot country music stars back in the day. That country music star as well. She's neither none of those. So she was a country music star at one point. I mean, let's also remember. That I worry body worlds, except at one point. Four different playmates and had them calling me up at all.

Times. Yeah. It's really once you get that, it's like, what's the point of being nervous? It's like it's a you know, it's not like there's a big difference that money demands. It has nothing to do with looks because she ain't got it. It's the money. Money, money, money What did you want me to picture? I don't. Remember. To this day, the first billionaire ever talked to. I know what you're saying. You're like jeans.

Like you meet Taylor Swift, the first thing you ought to be is like, I have this podcast called Unrelenting. We could use fun. Yeah, exactly. Would you like to think and would you like to lose a lot of money quickly? I have a podcast if I. I can help you. I have an amazing podcast that I would love to have you promote for me. Could be a great write off for you and it could end your career. Once people listen to the show and they're. Like, What? What's this? What are they talking about?

Yeah, that would go really well. Who was the first billionaire you talked to? The first billionaire? I talked to was the owner of well, at that point, a large percentage, but now the complete owner, a West publishing West publisher. And yeah, the guys that make all the law books and having the online service, that used to be a lot more of a thing, not any more these days called Westlaw, where you could look up any case like, you know, any historical purpose.

So basically it's where lawyers used to search for past cases to reference. Before I just baking it for them. Yeah, well, now, now they don't have to. They could fake everything. Just fake. Yeah, exactly. Have the air come up with some fake cases. Did you. You. It's interesting you say that. Well, let me finish the worthless story. So I talked to this guy would have been, I want to say to their sorry, 1994 95 timeframe. And I was sitting in the cigar shop smoking cigar.

MILLER They and there was another guy sitting there smoking cigar. And he thought your man was. And I noticed that he was wearing a suit and tie, like I always used to. That time. I noticed that name. And. I totally. I never franchised. I notice he had a one of the brand new murder, super slim flip phones. Not neither track tracked me to wherever the hell it is, but one of the really thin ones when I came out and so I said, hey, you got that far. It's pretty cool. What do you think of it?

So we had like a half hour conversation about his phone and then then I think I told them some opinions about politics having recently ran for office and it was only when he was leaving and we shook hands and he gave me his business card. Did I realize I just talked to my first billionaire. then you came right after? No, that would have been about 6 hours later when I met up with a subject. But I'll still be a. Billionaire, no doubt.

Yeah. No, it was one of those things where had I known he was a billionaire, I will clearly ask for money because billionaires are known for giving lots of money away to people that ask them. Right. That's what they're known as the known for. None for that. They loving. Not at handling their money. They love. Right. There's no I can't even figure out how they've got so much money because they give so much away. All right. They should have zero left you like you looking for a good investment.

This is like, yep, what you got, isn't it? But I'm looking for a good investment. Looking for one, not finding one. You got to pick his brain a little bit and that's it. He's just a regular guy. Billionaires are people you know. I know I'm met him a few times after that. I mean, he was. He stopped at the cigar shop and stuff. Where you would often spend your days. Yeah, I would spend a lot of my shop. Smoking expensive cigars.

Now, that's the reason smoking is the reason everything bad's happening to people. Probably. I had a cigar, a humidor in cigar shop, literally, since the mid nineties, up until moved to us. And I always had, as I have photos of Adam and hanging out at my a cigar shop in Dallas and my my locker there was labeled no agenda. now these like don't. I don't want to be associated with you because you know unrelenting. Well yeah what do you do exactly that pissed them off so much. Was it me? Was it me?

Well, it sure sounds like it was. You know. That was everybody else. Everybody else. The the unrelenting show is one that people turn to for a little bit of sanity in an otherwise insane world. They can hear about what Gene's ordering for lunch. What kind of a. Whopper chicken. How many grams of carbs he's going to have. What that's going to do with them. I'd rather have something with low carbs like fried chicken is. Really they're not. There's a lot of carbs in fried chicken, isn't there?

Well, luckily, they don't list what they are, so that. Doesn't make it healthier for you. Well, they don't list the nutritional values, does not say, well, this must be healthy. I mean, it might be. Yeah. You never know because they don't. That is a good you're right. It could absolutely be healthy. That's what I'm going to go with, that I don't know of a food that's healthier than fried chicken. I my brain just broke that one. I'm guessing there's broccoli, gravy.

Any vegetable actually is not healthy at all, man. There's nothing in broccoli. Any vegetable whatsoever. Probably healthier than fried chicken. Have a little kale. How do you figure that? Most vegetables are lacking in most nutrients. They're horrible for you. Would you come to relent? Unrelenting. You get the best nutritional advice that you can pay for. Which we don't offer. But yes, I mean, honestly, you can replace everything that's good about vegetables.

You can literally replace with a handful of vitamin pills. That's what you should do then not eat at all what you did for what? We can't replace the protein in the fried chicken. You know, you could have grilled chicken without skin. yes, but the skin's the best tasting part of it. Well. There's no doubt about that. That last time I went to Costco, picked up one of those Costco chickens that they sold and lose money on every time they sold. The other rotisserie.

And I just ate the skin and threw the chicken away. You know, I would like to do your Costco, have the little area where, like, people can sit down and eat. Yes. I would love to see the guy who buys like three rotisserie chickens. It's the skin and that just throws the chicken away while people are watching the. Skin skins, much as they see a part of the chicken. Like I would everybody want the meat. Now that that's garbage. I just wanted the.

I don't know why people would think that's weird because I also really enjoy in order. Every time I get sushi, I get salmon skin rolls. I've never had sushi, so I wouldn't know, but that might be delicious. No, that's. Yeah. So salmon skin rolls, I get the hand-rolled version of that is basically the skin from the salmon that's fried the fried skin. DG Guru says. So Gene is yes. I am totally protein. I, I don't understand why people wouldn't be protein.

Have a lot of skin. But. They'll have to get a lot of skin. The skin is the best part. Yeah. Skin's great, man. High protein skin is the best. I don't know how the Middle Eastern place makes their chicken, but it is delicious. It's the best damn chicken I've ever had. I a suspicion that probably it's delicious for the same reason that the place that I really enjoy here has amazing chicken. Is it going to ruin it? Because they. I'm going to tell you because they marinated. In something delicious.

You're not just eating raw chicken that's cooked with some slathered on top. You're eating chicken that's been sitting in marinade for 24 hours. That is deliciously sucked up. All the. Yes, the. Flavor. I've got shit, I shouldn't have ordered chicken. And then cooked just right. I just realized they have made a chicken sitting in my fridge right now. You just ordered lunch? I just thought of chicken for lunch. See, you're going have a lot of chicken. I do enjoy the chicken, though.

Yes, You know. Well, that's good. Good. You're going to have a lot of it. And there are plenty of ISO contenders for it today, too. Yeah, well, definitely better than that first one that you decided to go with. Yeah, it was not a very good one. And the sound quality was perfect today. No dropouts or anything. So clean feed, winning over Zoom so far. Clean feeds always had good audio quality. The issue with clean feed isn't the idea of quality, it's how you build the channels. It's it's.

Yeah it's that I have to keep my mode to set up a certain way. Otherwise I don't hear you. And it's also the reason why I haven't just ordered a mac mini yet or a mac studio because I'm like, I don't know, my mode too ain't going to work. It's totally going to work. Did you see the the link I sent you or several of them after last show? Yes. Or the the display adapter? Well, that was what I wanted to avoid. You can hook up to natively. Correct. And you could do like three more and.

You could do a three through six using USB adapter, which I honestly you'd never even know the difference other than the fact that you can't play games on them because they're not accelerated. Yes. And you can't do anything that has the. More rowdy shit. Well, it's not just the three D anything with digital rights management. So if you're doing something right. Correct.

Or if you have you know, if you log in four to watch Netflix or something, it won't work on that monitor because like, there you're trying to copy it. Like it's so fucking hard to copy that stuff. Yeah, but that exactly that way you could get away with the cheapest of the Mac minis. You then just need like a nice dock for cheaper. Now it's like literally for 99. Well, that's what Costco has always had it for.

But if you hop it up to the Mac Mini Pro, you could do the monitors right out of the box and get much quicker, although it's still like 16 gig of Ram. I know it doesn't really matter that much, but that still as a Windows user, they need to do some better marketing to let me know why my shitty old three year old Windows desktop that has What does this thing have 64 GB of RAM before? Yeah. Tell me why 16 okay. Get well I'll tell you right now and it's

first of all the more the better any computer period. Yes. Okay so you got keep that in mind. But here's the other thing. It's like right now I'm doing it on my computer, on my PC, which we're talking on the Mac is I'm running two Web browsers and signal. Okay, three applications I'm running it is using 24.7 out of 64 gigs of right now. That's a lot of RAM for that Well well due to the web browser. I hit myself with a microphone to. The web.

Browsers do end up taking a lot more of the RAM than you with. Yeah and and that's it's just I know granted I have probably 30 windows open but still. You know they're all running but that shouldn't take up that much RAM. No they're not all running video now. They're running mostly my email And now if I look at the the Mac, I'll let me look at these. See how well it manages that small amount of ram.

That's in there is right now running the browser that we're talking and it's running OBS that is sending audio and video to the internet and the script still running because I forgot to quit out of it and signal is also running and, and the Mac right now has half of its memory unused and this is what's only 22. It's a 16. Yeah totally. But it's only using like 8.3 gigs of memory right now. Interesting field like the Mac Mini and. 9.3 gigs.

So it's just I think the Mac does not require as much memory for processing. However, I will give you the caveat that when it comes to shit like Photoshop or video editing, there is no substitute for having your own memory though. You got it. It doesn't matter how how compressed the code is that runs. If you're talking about a, you know, moving video files and playing back video, the more ram you have, the more it'll keep in memory.

What I really want to find out is because what I do processing on any of these two hour plus shows, it could take 45 minutes to an hour to process. I'd like to cut that down to more like 10 minutes. yeah. Yeah. And honestly, it could probably do it damn near real time because. It's. Well, I guess you don't want the real time because you don't start the process until after we're done. So never mind. Right. You want that all to be done.

So everything's nice and smooth in the finished product that you're hearing right now. If you're not listening live. But if you are or if you're not, join us live when we do these. 10 a.m. Central Time. The my they agenda stream no agenda streamcam drill report I. and if I ever get in Mexico we could broadcast live have acts. That'd be fun to tell. Yeah. While we're doing it right now. But yeah. I know, but that's your exec out. Nobody follows you follow gene surges. That's true.

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