Oh Teen fire ceasefire. Thanks for be a great show for. Hello and welcome to episode number 88 of Unrelenting. A lot of podcasts may say they're the best damn podcast in the universe. We do not. We want a true. We have got an email saying that to us. I mean, there are some people that say they love the show. They usually disappear or are instantly institutionalized, but that's not our problem really. So how's this of I mean, having a good morning, Get your tea and it's pretty good.
I get my tea, get my chair, need to think to what else they want to eat them. This is this is the whole show. Just. Okay, everybody check off the bingo card. Gene talks about what he's going to eat at the grocery store. Oh, boy. You. I have a spicy show today. I've got some opinions about the whole Israel thing, and I might piss off before. Wait, you have opinions? That's hard to believe. I know. I had to really worked hard to try and pull an opinion out.
Now, I will say if you change anything with your audio, I'm enough to bring your high end down a little bit. You are clearer than usual. I have not changed a goddamn thing. This is the magic of the internet. I think sometimes the clean feet are like, Oh, now we'll just. We'll adjust. I didn't even. Yeah, I'm just looking. I wasn't even looking at my. Mm. In yellow. So I'm pretty good volume wise. So you just have to tweak. What now. It was just the high end.
It was almost a little bit too, you know, with the siblings. Well, I know what it is because normally it normally I do the show about 3 minutes after waking up. Oh, so you're just I would wake for about 2 hours. That'll do it. So, yeah, the thing you have to adjust for as a professional podcast engineer.
Yeah. Yes, that, that would be you and that me, the, my, my pitch definitely is lowest immediately after getting up and then proceeds to go up throughout the day to everybody about 10 p.m.. I sound like this. Your Pee-Wee Herman by ten. Yeah, everybody. How are you doing? Welcome to the unrelenting show. The good old boys will be on tomorrow, Sunday, not tomorrow.
Oh, sorry. So. And I don't know if people even notice this shit, but we did end up skipping our last episode because somebody not me, decided he was too busy to do the show. No, no. And. And then. And then decided that he was too busy to make up for it. Oh, so we know it. No, make do it either. They'll make good on that either. I know, I know. You said you can't defend himself, but he's been busy prepping for a conference. He's giving a couple of presentations still.
O'GRADY And so, you know, it's actual life, real life work shit. But nonetheless, I still want to give him shit. Hey, you know, on my other show, Grumpy old Couple. Yeah, I know the grumpy old Benz. I mean, it may be slowly dying. We just said that it was going to not always be live and we'd get them in when we can. And they're already people that were like, Well, I'm going to just stop my donations. That's the show is dead. It's like, Well, nobody said the show was dead.
We I get a hint for you. It's been dead for about two years now. It's well and that was is well, we didn't do one on Wednesday. There was not one scheduled. Right. And Ryan's like, well you know, we could do one Thursday if you don't want to miss. And I'm like, well want I kind of want to listen to No agenda this week because it was episode number 1600. I mean, so you and I are only 1512 episodes away from hitting that mark to getting further and further back every week.
Yeah, you're slightly jealous about. I don't understand. Yeah, they keep they keep pulling away from us, those bastards. And I said, Well, let me look. And I went into over Achievers. That's what I say. Yes. And we went into the, I went into the PayPal account and I'm like, well we have a grand total of zero for a grumpy old Benz this week. So it's not really incentive to get the chosen chair that makes sense.
So that I mean, I know it's going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy because if you stop doing the shows because nobody's donated, you're no longer doing shows and nobody will donate. So there you go. It's just the way the podcast ecosystem works. We made a 200 and whatever episode. When you saw the Zero, did you say pooper? Deutsch Is that Polish or Russian? That's Polish. I did not, because I don't speak Polish. Oh, well, I thought one of us was Polish, just partially.
And then, I mean, that's always what I was told. But then, I mean, I think it later on became it's like maybe more in the Czechoslovakian and that's when see oh, you get to lose donations don't say that I know CSB was I don't want to 23 and me they like you know what you are like I know what it is about the Polish. I want my money back right? Yes. Oh, I hate you Jackson Pollock. Didn't Jackson not the same. Yeah. I bet you they don't like shelling, huh?
You're all from that same little region there. It's all the same genetics. Come on, don't keep piling on, man. Ice is great. Like, let's. Let's just run this bitch right into the ground. And when you say you people, what exactly do you mean by that? The world, everybody living or dead or yet to be living. I don't want to exclude anybody. Yes. Yes. The only minority I don't have genes from, I guess, would be Africa. And you've done these the days I haven't. I've only done one of them.
Certain other people that have short, abbreviated initials. You have decimal. Yeah. Three or four of them. Yes. With different results. Which tells me it's us with happily confirming there's zero Jew at all in any of them. What is that? What? Did you pay extra for that? Yes, I got pay extra. Reasonable. We'll get rid of the Nazi Jew for you for an extra tenner. Yes. We'll add or get rid of whatever you want for an extra so you could just go in, associate with whoever you feel like you want to.
Exactly. Now, for people that are into the whole like getting to know your relatives long lost kind of crap that that has the like all those sites I think have an extra bonus feature which is would you like us to connect you with your genetic relatives? I opted out of that because if I wanted to connect with my family, I would. And I don't like I don't. He's like, But then there's a little place for comment. You're like, Unless I'm a descendant of Elon Musk, then please be there.
Be pretty hard to be a descendant of somebody that was he's a twin to travel exactly the same time as I was the time traveler. Or you could be. What if you were his? What if you were his brother that was given up for adoption? Yes. No, very likely Brother Elon. We're the same height. Yeah, but he doesn't have the beard, so I mean, that's. He loses that. He's missing all the facial hair. He tries occasionally. There's three or four of them that creep out, but they're.
Yeah. Elon, that's not a beard. Okay. Yeah. He wouldn't look at that beard. And some people say, well that's because he translated all the beard hair to his head and that that may be true. I don't know if that's true or not. Mean. Let's remember what his Twitter predecessor looked like with the beard. And it was a yeah, well, terrorist and Elon would look worse. So that tells you something. Yeah. I mean, Jack at least looked like he was sharing a cabin up in the woods with the Unabomber.
Uh huh, Uh, Musk wouldn't like his beard. Wouldn't even look like it. It would look like Musk is sharing a cardboard box with a drug addict in San Francisco. He doesn't want to do that, so I'm pretty sure he does not. No, no. And then on episode 1600 of No Agenda, they're like, Oh, well, how much longer are we going to do this show? Time was brought up. Well, maybe we'll go to 2000, which would be, what, four more years? Yeah. And one.
There's no way they're giving it up during a presidential election cycle, so that's never going to happen. Yeah, but I mean, Jon's pushing my age at this point. Well, yeah, and if one of them just ends up dropping dead, that was the other question. Well, then who would we get to to fill in? And both of them said, mow facts. And people are like, given me a C, Brooklyn and others were like, what would. Darren What? Why aren't you getting mentioned?
All Yeah, I'm like, because it would not be it definitely would not be Malcolm X. Adam knows exactly what the audience is for more facts and what it is or their show, and it's not going to be more fact. Yes. And I'm like the answer I want to give. But people misunderstand comedy and sarcasm would be yes, because it has to be more facts, because Adam and John have both gone totally woke. And you could only go with the diversity hire. Well, that's true.
And then I'm like, with that said, Mo, Facts is a really good dude and he's a good podcaster. But yes, I don't believe what he brings to the table. Now he can change. I mean, anybody can change. Why would he change? He's got an audience. Wrong reasons for anybody. Change. Not me. But I think he's a good enough. Let's just call him. It used to be broadcast, but he's a good enough podcaster that I disagree. I don't think he is. If you put in a different genre.
No, I think he could still handle himself. I think that I think he's done very well for one main reason, and that is having the co-host of the guy who invented podcasting. And that definitely I don't mean to him at all.
It's just that if you listen to the content, which I've listened to probably five shows over the last, what, three, four years, however long it's been around, it's first of all, there are too long, which means, hey, kettle pot, what do you I don't disagree that your shows are also too long. My shows used to be long. They're not anymore. If you've noticed, we haven't had a single show over 2 hours and 5 minutes. We go snappy. Now we try to cannot. And neither has.
Incidentally, just two good old boys. We've been sticking to 2 hours pretty regularly. But no, I think here's the thing. I think Mo likes to talk about topics he's interested in, which is totally understandable, which is why I also, like I have nothing negative to say. I just don't think that if you just stick more there by himself, he's going to be able to live off of talking in front of a microphone like there's not enough people interested and willing to pay for that. Well, that's it.
I mean, we're hoping for the super boost that he got. Having an audience is a very strange thing because I think there are a lot of people now that podcasting is something that almost anybody can do. You have the equipment to be able to do it. Some people are not good at it at all, but this is like musing. There's a lot of people out making music right now, and I think we may end before we move off the, you know, me not really insulting, but to some people I'm sure something like I'm something.
No, I don't think Jancee Dworak is capable of having a solo podcast that generates sufficient enough money either. Now tell me that. And also you do it solo. Tell me how Curry could do it solo because he used to do it solo and I used to listen to him solo. It was a great podcast and he's restarted doing it solo podcast again. So no, I'm not going to tell you that because that's false.
But Jonsi Dworak is much better as a foil to somebody else, and that is something that I think he does have to accept. Like, that's reality. Jon is better. Jon is, is much better a writer than all of us. Yeah, that anybody that well, I know a couple of other professional writers like people have got a dozen books published. I've only written three books, so I'm not really a writer, but Jon is definitely a much, much better writer.
And I tell him that on a regular basis, I probably reply back to him or text him like once every three or four months after reading something he's written and say, Oh, it's your best work yet so far. And he's like, Don't shut up. You know, It's like, But it's true. Jon is a very good writer. As a stand alone, a radio broadcaster, Jon would have trouble getting syndicated. Well, I think this is the case for a vast majority of the people. We've talked about it.
When you look at the most popular podcasts, almost none of them are solo shows. They're all a conversation, whether it's with two people or more. I mean, you get many more than two and it can start to break down unless they're there as very it's not easy to carry on an interesting monologue. You have to have a bit of a a bit of a preacher type ability. We actually used to be able to monologue for an hour longer. Yeah, I think you're pretty good.
But I will also say that just listening to your solo shows, I mean, let's be brutally honest. I don't listen to all of them because you're not that level of interesting. What's the topics? And I do know I cover just the topics, like if you were more if I had a hot gamer girl, you would be Listen, you were a hot game girl. I don't care what the topic is. I'd be listening to your podcast Thinking and manner Gamer girl just knows how to talk directly to me, you know?
And this is so we're getting a little bit into the how the sausage is made here. But that's the thing is like what we have is a our podcast is basically a phone call between the two of us where everybody that downloads it gets to listen in like the NSA. Yes, well, they were doing it already, so why not let everybody here, right? Right, exactly. And and so the enjoyment of listening to our podcast is not in anything either one of us says.
It's the back and forth tennis game of banter that we're having. That's the interesting bit. And I think for some people that's as close as they're going to get to being able to just capture and hold an audience. But there's a small sliver of people and it's less than 1%. It's way less than 1% that have mastered the solo game. And it's a harder thing to do. And it's not for everybody for sure. But, you know, because you have to have also like it's a learnable skill set.
But besides being able to learn it, I think you have to have some, you know, predilection to being able to get into that groove and stay there. Right. You need to get to the log, right? You need that gift of the gab. It's not the gab, though, dude. The gab is between people. This is this is the gift of oration here. When I say gab, I don't mean converse, I mean talk.
The kids are people that you'll start talking to on the phone, and you and I, I think both fall into the same thing where you could just put the phone down and listen for 15 minutes and it's never the talk of the other side's never going to stop. Well, that's true. That's true. But I think that's mostly because most people have an abhorrence to, you know, dead air, Right. Even on phone calls, not just on the radio or podcasts. This is it. This is it. And there are very few people.
Rush Limbaugh, I think, was the best I ever heard at being able to talk for s length without any kind of stopping. And when it comes to the MO facts thing, I just want to let you know CSB says Jenas right. Came in with a booster. Graham And I'm like, okay, so the goodbye goodbye. Yes. And then he said, Did you get my 10,000 booster? Graham And he sent a thought. He sent a 1015 booster. Graham To ask if we got the 10,000 booster.
Graham Let me look if I claim no, will you send more Booster Graham's asking if you got the other booster. Graham Because yes, I got the 10,000. I don't know if Gene did, but as he checks that seed Brooklyn also came in with 8888 for show 88 He said Stay unrelenting and we may as well just do the booster Graham's as they come in because we didn't have anything through PayPal today. So we may as well we may as well hit the booster. Graham's with the help on it.
Show me two different accounts with the same name. I was getting doubled up on Alby too. It looked like, okay, I don't know if that means you got the booster. Graham Twice. Probably not. And I didn't get anything. Weirdo came in on Thursday. Do you get Weirdo three for three? Having third party manage shit. This is stuff this happens that you have no control over. Yeah, but it works better than the self-hosted stuff. It's certainly cheaper. Yeah. Okay. I finally get in here.
No, I have not seen a single inbound transaction since October 23rd. Well, what do you mean, October 23rd? Today is October 23, October 13. Like that. Sorry. Which timeline in my hand? This is always the question because you should have had one on October 19th from weirdo with 33 or anything. Cyanide. It'll cure what ails. Yeah, that's true.
But we do have that 10,000 from CSB plebe at Comrades Jean and Darren, please invite your listeners to visit my cartoon blog at WW w dot CSB dot L.O.L and ask your listeners to follow me on Twitter slash X at CSB. Just three letters C as and B then I'll follow back and answer all questions. Yo CSB, I don't know. That seems kind of dangerous. If CSB is going to answer all questions. Yeah, then see US B's website. I can never remember. It's like CSB that daily. Well, something like that.
Correct me if it's wrong right. The lousy got to go there for the lol. So now what? Okay, let's do our tech support. What do you got. What are you showing. What aren't you getting? I have. Okay, so here's what I have. October six, I had 666 at October six. I also have 3333. So I wonder if you're there. It's still being cast somewhere. And your other account, 13th. What's the Craig there in the crack? Frustrated. What's the crack? What's the crack?
That's what we talked about that that was the that was October. That was the last inbound one I had. I have not gotten anything from on Monday. I have beer started with 1111 saying there's a reason why news is referred to as programing. And that's true. On Saturday, we got four unrelenting from bad career advice, Chad, he said, Jean, I had a similar fake heart attacks twice, supplemented a ton of targeted B vitamins, and all the issues went away. Now, my blood pressure and heart rate are normal.
Overweight people are often deficient in B one and B five. Check it out. Also, I'm not a doctor. That's mainly one big boned, right? That came with a 6969 Satoshi boast. So nice. Mike Yes, it would be. Which, yeah, I'm not getting checked yet so I love this man. People are. I know you do. I know you do. Because now you can even say, well, you know, we both get it because it's in the thing. It's a thing in the file. You're the only one getting money.
I'm looking to make sure that nothing changed is remember people, if I don't get the I don't get the message either. So, you know, it's much safer and easier to send me something direct. I still got you in your is sir Gina get I'll be I wonder for those who have sent in if you can look at whichever program you're using, let's see what they can tell. So yeah, well, I'll tell you who you're sending it to. Or will it not? I'm not sure, but I'm looking here at Fountain.
Fountain Fountain and podcast index from CSB was the 10,000. Now did you get that one today? Nope. I am getting the evening today. We'll see us beat it. It's. It went through the CSB. Well, usually No they'll tell you if it goes through. Well no but the final one I'll be searching very straightforward or through Gene and I'll be. Yeah. Those fountain one that should, that should be pretty easy to look at and be like Well are they look good.
We changed that last week during the show so by now what's the little symbol for a yellow? Is that a B or something? What is that little thing with the two? And then it's the gap of purple said where they go, the Albee thing. Yes, I think that is a B or something like that. I don't know why. It's just a cute little mascot that they have going on. But CSB, I'm sure he will look at all of your problems of getting your Satoshis I know it's in the RSS feed.
I just don't understand why it's not coming through immediately more. I don't I don't know for everybody going into the podcast index, I would think, although I know they do some caching there because they're the ones that like to do, you sign up with them and they'll added it. And that was the way this whole thing started. Although it's supposed to revert to the the real RSS feed, why don't you just resubmit it? Well, it is. Every day we do a show. The RSS feed is refreshed, isn't that it?
Yeah. I mean, I guess it should be right. I go to pod versus me and I say pod verge. Yes. I want to really give these guys a nice big boost and it shows me there now. Yeah. Which is the one Satoshi which goes through to my Satoshi stream. But so that's where the messages will pop up for me now. And I've got my 49 going to get Albee and I've got the 50 going to third Gene at get Albee. So that is correct. So if I boost from here, this is for using this is the best part of the part. Yes, I know.
This is I always do the testing I go through and I go, I'll just boost ourselves, which is there's nothing more fun than boost. Hmm. But I'm going to boost directly from the pod verse. And right now you should get a booster gram from me. That was like boost it how it all went? No, nothing. Comic strip blogger, says Korva via podcast index. It went through to Gina. Get Alby, tell Jean to check in his get Alby dashboard. Yeah, I'm literally in the dashboard.
Then the last incoming was on the 13th of October. You're at the get Alby dot com dashboard. Yeah yeah, yeah. You go to get Alby you go to Dashboard right now. I see here my latest one Darrin O'Neill sent me a boost Really. 166 Satoshi from pod verse or it's it shows me I've sent 163 to both. Sergey, I get Alby and myself. You may have done something, but 13 didn't get it. So then I got, although it is showing up everything twice in the Get Alby dashboard today.
So something weird is going on there. Yeah, it's the beauty. I'm going to revert back to my original advice. Don't send the goddamn thing to anybody. Don't say anything. Least not to Jean, because he has the worst lot when it comes to any of this stuff. You know, what I do get is, you know, people work. Does it? Yeah. Yeah. Because remember, that guy sent a Hondo and said that this is for unrelenting you, right? And it was to your PayPal. That was to my PayPal.
So which incidentally it was to one of my pay bells but not the one that I use for podcasting. Well, that's even weirder. Yeah. So I think he just, like, googled, you know, my name and then the word PayPal and found it is Google and Gene because it's like it's like, wait a minute, that I don't use that for podcast stuff. Oh, do you know what's weird? This is very weird. The the duplicates are what's coming in for this show.
Like, I'm getting your boost because I have two different amounts because mine is of my split into 49 and yours is a 50 because I have one of mine go into a different service. Okay. In both of these boots are different. So for some reason, get in both of them. You might be your half of the world. Yes. I wonder how that happens. Oh, man, that's weird, because you do not have a different number. I don't believe when you do. They get Alby thing. I think it is.
The recipient name is the only thing that's different. I mean, we'll have to verify that after only. Now, Is this the ad for me? Actually, I'll just send it to you and see if this matches what get Alby tells you to put into your. Okay, Because this is what I've got for you. Really. We really should do this off. They're not on there because this is boring. It's for content except for everybody that uses get Alby.
And as multiple people are like why is one of the people in the show not getting clearly the one person that's getting all the money is happy to not talk about it. You know, this is like, I can't believe nobody's sending anything in the show. So no, that would be a very different number is it's okay. What you need to do is take that little part in with the right number and send that to me. And then we should have you. As far as I knew, that was just what you needed to do was change the the name.
But I guess not. I well, it's not like because that's what we did with Satoshis stream, which was using another value. So I guess that makes sense. So thanks to everybody for sending in all the unrelenting donations and keeping Gene direct. So basically you put my name as the recipient and to your node number office, which which, which gets everything coming to your node that's supposed to be meant for my name. That's awesome. I love it. This is on it. This is awesome.
And you're like, Yeah, I don't know why it's doubled up, but man must be in there. Not a big deal. I'm just glad. I'm just glad they're different amounts. Otherwise I would have been like, I don't know, I'd just be like, Nope, let's get me. It's all there. You know, I just the in the silent partner in the show USB says provide no fucking way I'll be using pay fucking balance finding that there is a split button that shows searching and split so something is fishy as far.
Yeah. Yeah. Well I was stealing from joint. Yeah. Basically it's just been stealing my money. I didn't mean to steal from Jean, but yet there I was, stealing from Jean. These all these numbers are so long, I don't see very well. That's all Jean has to do. That's the excuse. Yes. I don't see very well. You just have to cut and paste what you need now. So all you got to do is go into your. I got it, I got it. Your settings button then. And then you'll have it.
Yeah. Yeah. And then all I got to do is put this magical number and everybody always remember if you want to get the correct funds to the correct people, put in the right numbers. Yeah, it's the custom value one that's different. So the address is the same, the keys, the same, the values, the custom value on the different. Okay, so the name is kind of irrelevant. Apparently the name is just for show to show who's getting it in this custom value.
So yes we're we're disambiguate the the communication with the be in here and now it is updated and everybody I mean I get I don't know how quickly that in the goddamn thing for the rest to show people this this ain't going to get updated until tomorrow. I don't want Darren getting more test donation. You want to get me and Rich. Yeah. I wonder if it shows me on here. Actually, it should show me if this is a a different one. Oh, yeah.
So I should be able to check here on pod versus will tell you. So let me look now see how often they now you do that I'm going to be a little more savvy. Oh, you got some savvy, Jay. Yeah, it's still the old value. So that's where it'll probably take a little bit of time for pod versus to go, oh, maybe checking this again. But at some point that'll update hopefully a day or less. Yeah, I would guess less. Mm. I have no idea why I would say that, but I would guess less in the meantime.
I mean don't worry about it. I'll just make sure I'll share whatever that comes in. Oh yeah. Yeah. With Jean. Yeah. Neither one of us is going to be the new co-host for No Agenda. No, that's true. But I mean we're probably higher up on the list than low facts. Adam, just didn't want to show his hand. I don't know about that, as the show will never continue on. I don't believe without one of them, although I will say it was so I think Adam stock but it's it's not like a prior thing anymore.
So back a couple of years ago, whatever it was when they first moved into their new house in Fredericksburg, I was out there visiting and we're sitting by the fireplace and Adam said, You know, so I've been talking to John about this, this topic. And it's just it's not an easy one, which is, are we going to continue the show if one of us dies? And so I don't you know, not to not to think that John necessarily is going to be the first one to die, But let's say he is, then what does Adam do?
And I said, well, I think you should know the answer if you don't. I had your wife as a guest on my show and and it was my top rated show of all the searching speaks. People love listening to her. You guys should start doing a show together. And, you know, at the end of that conversation, that pretty much became a thing. And now they've been going for, what, over over a year for sure. But it's however long a career and the keeper has been around.
Yes. And the beauty is the show does not have to continue. It would just be borrow that RSS feed and tell everybody there's a new show with Adam because that one is stopping. So but I will say that we do have a direct audio of the answer to that question, though. If you had to pick a co-host for a new show, would it be Darren or Sir Jean? It's just an unanswerable question. Exactly. It's unanswerable question. I, I probably like both of them too much.
You know, Dvorak and I are not actually friends. We're awkward. We're awkward together. So either one of them was totally qualifies because I just like smart people. See, there you go directly from Hog Story. Yeah. So, I mean, it wasn't that the nicest blow off in the world. I just, I liked that it was very it was good. I like the I like them right where they are. Right. You watch the guy is a professional for a reason. When cornered with the question of at all. Yeah. And here's the thing.
It is an impossible question to answer anyway, simply because when Adam started doing the show with Jon, it was not the show that people are listening to today. And I would daresay most people over 50% of the people that are currently the audience of No Agenda would have listened to one episode in show one through ten and would have not come back, you know, one through ten. Sounds a lot more like like us, you know? Right, Exactly. That's exactly right.
And it's because their show was basically, hey, you know, we we talk on the phone and let's just record it. So, John, what restaurant you go to last week? Oh, yeah, I found this great wine at this little place up on the Russian hill in San Francisco that I went to. And you know what, though? The car drive to that place was horrible. I don't know about these potholes they keep not repairing in the city. Well, he's still got potholes. Yeah, exactly. And. And what about you?
And I was like, well, I think I'm going to think you're going to have to move out of my building. They keep building some train station next to me. I don't know what's going on, but it's a noise all day, all night long. Like this building is going down the toilet. I don't know what to do. I'm going to take my my Mercedes diesel and just drive somewhere else. I mean, I was basically their first few episodes was that it's it's a lot more similar to our show than it is the current. No agenda.
Yes, it merged into what it is because they found a a niche. They found something that worked. They found something that resonated with people. And I think it was that complicated. I don't think there was a feedback mechanism needed. I think certainly John is at a point in his life where he can't changing for anybody, baby.
Well, the answer was, was that world events started happening and I think it started really with Adam kind of paying attention to the European Union's post document that they had. I can't remember if that my head, but I think I remember sitting on an airplane flying back from Europe and listening to the podcast where Adam was starting to say, I just read this whole thing and this is ridiculous. I can't believe that they're they're voting on this.
And not none of the European countries actually know what it is. And I can't remember what that comment was. I'm sure somebody on the but yeah it like that was the pivot point in my memory where their show took a drastic turn into politics and into current events, but not like local current events, but rather, you know, world current events. And it's just been growing ever since then.
And of course, undeniably, when Adam first went on Joe Rogan, that oh, he just completely solidified the whole, you know, the whole topic because a lot of those people came over and people that had never listened to no agenda that were watching Joe, they were hungry, thirsty, whatever the expression is for an alternative viewpoint. I mean, that's the one thing that Joe's got in common for all his guests, I think have in common is they all have alternative viewpoints from the standard mainstream.
Well, and that is the secret to making an audience grow is beyond Joe Rogan, beyond Blood Bath, Beyond making telly. That is the secret. I mean, because just Joe Rogan, the rest of them don't really matter what they do to a certain point because they really care. The donations are no agenda. Yeah, 90 80% maybe are the Joe Rogan ones. But you hear enough that, hey, I first heard you on Glenn Beck.
I don't know if I've ever heard of I first heard you on Megan Kelly, but I have definitely heard multiple we heard you on Glenn Beck and started listening. So you need to expose you know, you have to go after another audience because when you just put podcasts out there, nobody's going to finally find them. I don't know if anybody ever finds a podcast randomly like going involve you more, right? I'm searching for a political podcast.
You know, I remember those days back back in the mid 2000s when I would actually check to see what the new podcasts were, you know, on Apple when there was like three new ones a week, not three new ones at a few, but that was probably like 20 to 30. It was a manageable number of new ones that you could peruse through. But I'm also old enough to remember when I did the same thing with the World Wide Web.
You're going to the the Netscape page and looking to see what are the new websites that have been added to the index? Oh, there's 36 and I'm Do you remember when getting listed on Yahoo! Meant an actual person had to review your site? I don't, but I believe if you say that's what it was, I believe it. I mean, I don't recall ever having to talk to anybody. And you never you didn't talk to them, but you had to submit it and a real person would look at it before.
Right? Right, right. Yeah, It was definitely a submission thing. It wasn't like a like you're automatically in your right and it wasn't just on. Yeah. That was not a as they do now was it wasn't was it Mozilla. Was that what it was or is the browser I'm sure. No. What. Yeah. Before the internet is what was the website, the original website that had the index. I'm trying to remember I think I don't really remember anything before the Yahoo. Yeah. I was on before so I, I remember that.
And it would have been like 91, maybe 90 or 91, uh, right around that timeframe. Um, because before that, like in the eighties it was go for in a lady, right. And then the first websites were, I want to say that that I remember going to was were in 90 maybe 91 but it was definitely one of those two years and I thought it was the gap maybe it was something else, but it was not a well thought out infrastructure at that time.
Yeah, it was all based and it was like if somebody had a graphic, there'd be a bunch of people complaining about the wasted bandwidth. Right, Right. How dare you? Why do you have your header? That's the same image on every page you're wasting. Our download is that when caching had to come in and all the same trades because caching was a thing to actually save bandwidth originally. Yes. Yeah. That's how old we are.
We remember when caching was like well no, the page will load a lot faster the next time you go to it. That's right. Now everything is instantaneous. Yeah. And you'd like to have web accelerator. Yeah. Devices. Yes. Words like go through. Yeah. You can get it through this one instead and then it'll. Yeah. Yeah. Well and weird stuff it certainly in the very earliest days I was sitting on a, a modem so the modem speed internet, but I got onto ISDN fairly early.
I got ISDN in 95, so I had a digital 24 hour day connection to the internet, starting with 95. That is a little early. I don't remember when when so and I'll give you a just for context. ISDN was so dual channel lines. The end was 120 kilobits and that cost $580 a month. Wow. Which is crazy.
I don't remember what the cost was, which was just a fraction of what a dedicated T1 line was because that was thousands of dollars a month when at that time a T1 was is what a gig and not a gig, I'm sorry, 1.5 megabit up rate each way. Yeah. Or 24 voice channels. Ooh. Mm hmm. Yeah, I remember when AT&T at home came, and I think that was our original download Speed. I think that was 1.5 Meg was the original reliable modem. Yeah, that's pretty damn good actually, for cable modem.
Back in the day. Back in the day. But yeah, because I had ISDN starting with 95 and I got a T1 line a Well, I kind of got at1 line I, I got at21 line at my office in 2000 because. My landlord got that the one and he, he was totally fine with me being on it and using it and because he was, you know, barely using it. And then I kind of got in trouble for hosting a model mayhem on there, huh? So, yeah. Do not host websites at all. No, no, no. Not not. Don't do that. Oh, now you're totally good.
Well, yeah, now you totally could, but it was like at1 line was still something that was hard to fill. And the main reason that I wanted the T one was for latency, because that had much shorter latency than ISDN and playing video games online as I did back then. That was a very important thing. Did you go through says ISDN was to B plus D? What does that mean? Um, I can't remember what that stands for, but it had two two channels.
So single channel ISDN was 60 4k but generally by the mid-nineties everybody was doing dual channel and now the RSS was basically what? And you could also incidentally that so the two channels could be either analog or digital use. So you're having ISDN meant you can either be online and sending data back and forth at 128 K with two channels, but it also lets you plug in two phone lines into it.
So you had two phone lines as well, which is where the two B and A DS data probably, and so you if you used one of the phone lines, then your data would drop by half. Right. Right, right. If you used one either or. And then who wants phone line to even use. I mean I, I had to Yeah. I mean I used them back then but that's running a business. Yes. But I've said that with these little devices
that everybody carries around now I didn't have those back then. No. But I don't know when you got your first cell phone, I, I did not get mine until they became more affordable. So I didn't have the brick phones. I had a cell phone by the time I was going to college. So it was 1988, I think I had the first cell phone and I did. And they were over a thousand bucks back then. How the hell did you have a cell phone?
I the guy that I ended up working for at the carpet store, he was upgrading his cell phone out of his Lincoln Town car. I was the one that installed it for him. Believe it or not, I used to know how to do all this stuff. Now I believe it. Yeah. And he let me have the old one in back. So this is back before you grew to your full height so you could still get into a car? Well, it was a Lincoln Town car, so anybody you can like a front three hookers into the trunk with me.
And it would it still had to be worth three hookers in that time. Yes. Know, but he's like, okay, I can install this. You can have the old one. And it was an old, you know, not so you have a car or cell phone that's direct allegorical and you got it for free. That makes sense because back then what people don't understand now, people look at service being the problem because of the bullshit of like, Hey, you could have a free iPhone 15 bullshit. But back then you literally paid as you went.
So it was like ten or 20 bucks a month to have and use it for a few minutes. But each minute was like a buck or something like that, which was more than that. It was, yeah, it was in that range. It was like it wasn't crazy. If you really had to, you know, let somebody know you're running late. But yeah, the phone conversation was definitely very quick because I can't really talk a whole lot because I'm on cell phone. Yeah, it's kind of like when cellphones came out, it's kind of similar deal.
Satellite phones. Yes. The original Motorola brick Digger says he had one. They cost four grand that. Yeah. There you go. Yeah, I don't know. I my first cell phone, I think I want to say. Got it in probably 94, 95. And it was a late something. Something PC Yes, and it was a very compact for the time handset, which means it was about the size of the iPhone, but about three times thicker. But it was about that same size. So it was basically the size of something you hold next to your head.
So it was a yeah, that's probably about right. Three iPhones thinking about an iPhone in the other dimension. I can't remember the name. The company, they eventually got bought by somebody else. I mean, the whole market consolidated. But I remember the cool thing about it was that it had a much cheaper plan. So instead of paying like 50 bucks a month and then the minute you would pay, I think I paid 70 bucks a month and I included like 200 minutes.
Oh, bargain. Yeah. So it was like three times cheaper and it mostly worked. You know, if you get outside the city, go into the farmland areas, you got no signal. Obviously. But in the city you work fine. So and I remember this distinctly, the awesome thing about having it is that your calls to the call and talk radio show station that I listened to were free. They didn't subtract from your minutes.
So I was online and talking to guys like Jason Lewis and I call them thrush a lot of times never get on. It wasn't easy to get through to Russian. I had I just sent you one and put it in the troll room. I had one of these as well. The these were big in the day. These were the transportable cell phones. No I don't. Did you sent me. I didn't sit over on. I'm sorry. I sent it to the wife who had messaged me that she was going to be an hour late for lunch today.
She's probably like, What? No one want that. That's a You're admitting it, isn't. It is a way for it's not an actual way. You're admitting it now. What do you mean that's an actual wife? Well, you know, a wife who is is a cartoon character, pretend wife that people have that are a lot of them are. And no social a wife would be an actual human. The woman that you have sex with, right? Oh, well, wait. You have sex with a totally different. Yes, it's a totally yes.
Oh, this is Darren's wife who will be back from working her job. Right. Exactly. And I had one of these cell phones as well for radio crack, but I. That was the second one. No, that had to be the first one. Then the second one was a smaller, non transportable one. Yeah, I remember these these definitely came out in the late eighties. I remember those. Yeah. This was so this was the first one that I had in the car. And then you just had to run. They had magnetic antennas that you ran the window.
Yeah. But that was, that was living in high cotton back then. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Like the Radio Shack. That's fancy, huh? Then I work for Radio Shack and. Oh, you were a high tech employee. I know, I know. It was. I mean, there were worse jobs, but yeah, like soup. Getting a love hate relationship with Radio Shack because it was the only store that I could get electronic components for back when I used to actually tinker with electronics.
But they also had the absolutely worst quality of any other product. So it's kind of like in the end you have a huge catalog of parts you can order from, which was great. But but like anything actually sold in the store was the cheapest Chinese piece of crap stuff you can get. Yeah, a great majority of it. There was a couple things they had, and then they had a line. I forget what they called it, but it was not the Tandy line. There was a line of audio gear that they came out.
Oh yeah, that was actually decent. And I had some of those. Yeah, those were pretty good. Like I have the minimum seven speakers sevens and then seven ones. So I had both of those and there was I never had their actual audio amps or anything. I didn't like those back in the day I, I had Ankiel gear. Yeah. I still got on gear. Really. Yeah. Wow. I've actually probably got like three of them sitting in the basement because every time I wonder what might have been mine.
Yeah, maybe that was with Circuit City. That's what I learned, was that the without going nuts in spending, you know, Macintosh kind of money. No, don't even go there. No. Why did you do that? That's where all your money was. No, no. God, no, no. I had a friend whose mom remarried, a much older guy, and so he had already made his money. This is like back when I was a kid.
And so I remember going to their house and then, you know, being shown the Macintosh and and the Logan Martin speakers and all that, like multi-thousand dollar per piece of equipment kind of shit. But it sounded good. Well, it sounded extra good in the eighties and nineties because it was so far ahead of its time. I don't know that today. Yeah. Technology is in that has caught up on a lot.
But that's when I was selling the audio gear back in the back of your truck early nineties right out of Circuit City. Yeah. That I learned that when it came to the stuff the Anko and Harman Kardon back in the day were pretty damn good.
Kenwood was a little step up and then you had the pioneer Air and Sony and Pioneer has their top end stuff was really nice but the consumer and stuff back then was garbage and I was like, okay, IKEA, they kind of seemed like the nice trade off in getting a quality sound without spending a ton of money. Better quality than Sony. And Sony was kind of like the mass market, decent quality stuff. Yeah, that would be.
I mean, I remember when we opened up the Circuit City here, they brought a couple of guys up from a store, I think in the St Louis area that had been opened. It was like, you know, train us on what to do. Right. And of course, Circuit City would put all the crap in the ad, the little crappiest of the crap. And I remember once they had a dual cassette deck and of course a woman came in to buy the dual cassette deck that was in the ad because you saw it in the ad and that's what I want.
And this dude was doing everything he could to move her up to Kenwood Deck. Yeah, because the people that ran the Circuit City didn't want you to sell the shit. They put it in the attic. Well, yeah, obviously in battle. You know, I had a dual Kenwood deck, the Kenwood cassette thing. I remember that it was the two ex camping. They were nice, but she finally went to them and asked, like, Well, you know why you keep trying to sell me this?
Is there is there something wrong with the Sony or Pioneer, whatever it was? Yeah. And he said, not if you're looking for a doorstop. Oh, wow. Truth in advertising. That's. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was kind of frowned upon that sales me. Yes. Well, I could see that and that's a little too much truth. Probably didn't make a sale then. The story Why I always had a Best Buy next door.
So it was very easy to go see what was the latest, the newest stuff, the I think it was even the original Best Buy stores, the one I used to go to. Ooh, Minneapolis, right? Yeah. Yeah. But it was it was the Best Buy next to Southdale in a diner for anybody that actually knows Minnesota. And that store was tiny in comparison to the size of the stores that they and eventually ended up building.
But like, I remember going there in the eighties and it was probably half refrigerators and washing machines, and then maybe a quarter televisions and a quarter audio gear. And it was it was were everybody that wasn't looking for a macintosh went to buy gear. So it wasn't the cheap should you'd buy at Sears which you know contrary to what it's like to people that are younger than us, Sears is basically what best or what Amazon is today.
The back in the olden days, when the boomers were young, Sears was the Amazon. It was the place that had a huge catalog of anything that you could order from anywhere in the country or the world. I don't remember the episode of MASH where they order a bathtub or something from that. Yeah, I don't know. But it sears for all practical purposes, all Amazon did was take the Sears model and out Sears, Sears because Sears lost its way. Oh yeah. There's a lot of those companies that could have pivoted.
Yeah. That refuse to because, well, nobody's going to want to shop online. Yeah. Like in fact, in your little neck of the woods there, the Chicago. You had the Sears Tower. Yeah. What's that called now? The Willis Tower. Unless it's changed again. Well, I don't even know what Willis is. I don't either. Probably do that. But what you're talking about, Willis, Maybe it was probably that day, but yeah, the Sears Tower.
You know, Sears was the store that you could buy goods from anywhere, which I. I'm sure people don't think about this right now, but Amazon at some point will be that they will have gone past their prime. Get it? See what I did there? Yeah. I gotcha. Man, that was crazy. That was a joke. Hey, tip your waitresses. Well, yeah, that's right. But not today. Wait for a couple of days until the the files get updated, and my correct address is in there. I look, the RSS feed is updated at least an hour.
And so now it's just waiting for the for the. Yeah, you would do it. You would see that. Mister. I've been getting both of your donations every time for a whole week, which means I have like 15,000 for thousands and thousands of pennies. That to you It wasn't even if it was thousands of pennies, that means it's over 10,000 bucks that. That's questionable. It's questionable. This question. Well did you gurus says we call that place Circuit City back in you know I'm like that's what I call it.
There were days when I was pissed off at work that when the phone would ring, I would say thank you for calling Circuit City. Like what? Thank you for calling Circuit City. What? Oh, okay. Yeah, that reminds me of of a city walk right? Yeah. Can you often calling Circuit City. Circuit City. That's funny. All right, let's get to serious stuff, though. I know you want to finally get this. We're not. Yeah, we've been bantering about nonsensical things for a while now. Yeah, well, 88 episodes.
Yeah. All right, we're done. Now, at this point, we're going to get serious boys and girls. We're finally getting serious. Yeah. You had some thoughts about is real. If I was still doing my own 13 Speaks, I would probably just do it on there. But since I'm not and, you know, I mean, the RSS feed is up, but there's probably like four people subscribing. That's all. I mean, that's working for everybody. I've dropped off. I haven't had an episode in the year. There's like, where's he gone?
Is he dead? What happened to search? Did we not follow him? I no agenda. So. So you don't follow me Still, I'm hurt. I'm like, I do too. For Dom. I know you unfollowed me on purpose to make a point a few episodes kill I. Oh, that's right. I did, didn't I? Yeah. Okay. You know, I never see a manner and no agenda social. And that's because you weren't following me. That's right. Because you said, Oh, I don't follow you. It's you should at me. If you need something like, Oh, okay, fucker.
I've always followed the game. I just don't read what you he let me get. I do the same thing right in signal. I'm like I get post after post. I'm like, Oh, do I want to read? Don't read all my signal posts. I read them. You get about a quarter of what everybody else gets. I get what they generally and how to make your own generally. And if I was. Yes, really that was something it's important things How to make your own.
Generally if my eyes had not blown out at some point, if I had gotten the money, I would have that would always one of those cards. I was like, Yeah, I would love to have one. Yeah, well, maybe that video was pretty good because it was. We're actually talking about a real thing here. I sent Darren. Darren, Daryl, Right. Daryl Amos, me and my brother, the guys I sent my host guy, I sent him a video of five mistakes that people make when they build their own general lease.
But here's the cool part about the video is the video is made by John. What's his last name? The guy that was the guy from Dukes of Hazzard? Yeah, Schrader. Snyder John Snyder. So he's talking literally about the car that he drove in the show and then walking around and showing his version of that car that he has in real life. So it's it's actually kind of cool. And he looks younger than I would expect him to look. He must have been, like super young in that show.
Yeah, I think he was only like 20 or something. He must have been, I guess another time. Wopat was a little older. I think he was 30 and CSB did send another boost and no, it's still not fixed yet. CSP But it will be by the next show. You just have to make sure in your that that is updated and that we have different values for the user or whatever they call it. But yeah, everybody should have their own generally.
Now you just can't have the the flag on the top of it because people will that he's got to destroy your car. I know but in Chicago I don't think you could I wouldn't Can you imagine driving one of those down into Englewood in Chicago. So I drove my my car drove here generally in my generally, I drove in 1990. What year would have been 90? Was it four or five? Four In 1999? It was it would have been five.
In 1995, I drove out to see a buddy of mine in North Carolina where I picked up a Confederate flag. And yes, we all know it's not really the Confederate flag, it's the flag of Virginia and blah, blah, blah. But I pick one up and I have it hanging out the window and the drive back. And then I kept in the car for about two or three years until it got weathered by the sun. And then I took it down. But I never had anybody attack. My car was a different time.
It was a different time because the Confederate flag was not seen as racist. Even just 20 years ago, it was by some people. Well, it very few, because I remember a guy that he may still be around that was an old black dude down somewhere in the south. Then his whole thing was the Confederate flag that he, like, had the rolls. You know, every day he would dress up. But yeah, and it's like because it doesn't represent the one bad aspect only of that time and place. That's true. That's true.
And that's like where people just it's like, again, you got to be a little bit more broadminded, as Sinatra used to say. But that's when he wanted to think about checks. He sure did. You got to be way more broadminded, but different to look at something like that and be like, This is only about this. It's like, now there are a lot of Southern traditions that have nothing to do with racism. Yeah, yeah. And then really it was mostly about the war and there was an aggression.
Drew The Northerners were the bad ones. They were. Yeah. It's anybody who actually reads history will pick it out pretty quick. If you're if you another pastor. Graham I'd like this because CSB is sending me boost to Graham's and he says Korva dear and let Jean speak about the Middle East but other topics yeah you do seem to keep pushing me off the Middle East traffic. Thank you CSB for supporting in this. That's what a true producer does on the show. It's that's right.
He yells, he yells into the earpiece. Quit stalling. Let him talk. God damn it. Let the Jean Doc, let him talk now. Okay. All right. So here's the deal. My general stance is the same as it's always been, and it hasn't changed, which is the U.S. has no business being the world police think that's bullshit. I think it's something that actually creates negative effects for the United States from a lot of countries when we go in and fucked things up.
So the US should be staying out of Israel just like it should be staying out of Ukraine, just like it should be staying out of Taiwan. And it should have in the past tense, stayed out of Iraq and Afghanistan and every other place that we've meddled in because nothing good ever comes out of that meddling.
Like in general, I don't like the idea of meddling, but at least if there was some positive effect that could be demonstrated, I'd be at least be willing to look at it and say, well, maybe in that one instance it was worth it. But. Well, yeah, beyond South Korea, where have we gone?
Spent time and thought that the minute we left, they weren't like, Oh fuck America and South Korea is arguable because let me ask you this, where we lost in Vietnam, where we stalemated in Korea, there is no North Vietnam, there is a North Korea. And have we gotten out of Korea sooner? Maybe the Communists would have conquered the entire peninsula and we would have not had Hyundai cars. But but that's a plus. And maybe.