078: Russian Mall

If you're supporting us, you're going to help. You're. Hello and welcome to episode number 78 of Unrelenting. It's like an old shellac disc. Before they went to vinyl, they were 78. I had some 78. I still do. I mean, I don't know if I have anything I can play a among. They require special apparatus. You can't just throw them on the same turntable that 45 and 33 threes. You some people don't know that you can. Well, you can. It's not going to be a good experience.

You used to be able to. They were universal. Yeah, well, there was a on the very old console turntable that my parents still have. There is a little switch that will flip from one stylus to the other, so. Mm hmm. Because that's what I remember having the good old days. Have you ever. You flipped the stylus in a put the speed lever from 33 to 40 5 to 70, and it was all magical. I really. Darren O'Neil. And he has I heard you the other day that show you did what memories you're like.

I mean, I always thought it was never Julia, but you're just like, I'm kind of. It was like you did it like one syllable. I don't understand. There's a lot of letters. You did it in, like, one syllable. I mean, you should see my signature. It's one letter. Pretty much it's just a letter. And with the squiggle. It's all you need. You learn from the design. Yes. That was meant to be a doctor, you know? Yes. Oh, yeah. Well, you do self-medicate a lot. I do? I do indeed. Like, what else could I do?

What could I do? Well, this one. Here we go. People playing bingo. You can check off the medical to right on that bingo card. It's right up front. They're going to talk about medical stuff. That's right. They. I was already on the bike. I like that. I was sitting there and I finished with the bike, and I was getting myself a little bit of water, and the thing popped up and my. My, my apple watch. And it's like, Oh, you've already met your move and exercise goals for the day.

Listen, I don't I do not only shit, I can help lower your goals. Like, well it's they're still set at the basic which is a half hour for each and I do an hour on the bike, so I just blow right on. I do need to have my watch self adjust those. So I remember when I went and vacation to Mexico and I have a which reminds me, I get a call on my next trip and I had a fairly lengthy walk from my man out to the the area where they do food. And so I were exercising. No, I was exercising.

I mean, it was uphill both ways, but I had to walk like this probably is probably around the quarter mile of them on the other side of the the the resort. So that's quite a ways And I did cheat a couple of days. Well you had somebody care about. Really. Yeah, exactly. No, I got room service but which is essentially the same thing.

But the rest of the time I walked and after a few days, my wife decided that my my minimum exercise requirements had gone up because clearly I was meeting them every single day. So it automatically starts to bump that up. That would make sense. It does. It does make sense. So it's sort of like you to just do your new normal and then still keep to wanting to go do more exercise. Well, that's the idea is to continue to increase, although there has to be a point.

Otherwise it'd be like you should be exercising 24 hours a day. Why aren't you? Because I would die. Well, clearly, I've never met that point, though. In no danger of it either. No. Now it's just been playing. People would be like, why's Jean starting to sound different? But playing with a little IQ? I think I cleared up nicely. Now. Okay, Well, it only took the years. That's good. With a C. I hate playing with the IQ beforehand. I always just wait to the the end result.

But I thought I would try this now. Just like this is the first time I've been using. Now the sure ss7 be banned. Drew's favorite microphone. I don't like your low. And then this Mike did. It does sound different. The high end I think is better. That's I think because I've got the the high end filter not the high end filter, the boost I have the higher accentuation on, which I think is why I was trying to do the low end with the with this with the with the big bottom.

I'm trying to get most of the there are a 20 has a better better low end. I think it does it's also a bigger microphone and I think that the sure gives you a little bit better clarity with the windscreen on it. But to be fair, when you talk right into this thing, you can still pop some piece if you rock right into it. So which is why everybody that uses this on the YouTubes and mikes themselves incorrectly drives me nuts.

Well, everybody uses this on the YouTube because they saw somebody using it on the YouTube video world. They wanted to look professional. You have to. 99.9% of the people on YouTube, including people that should know better, don't understand audio. This is true. They barely understand video. And that goes double for anyone that's ever had a professional job in broadcasting. Oh my God. Do not know audio because somebody else is doing it. Yeah, exactly.

And we figured that one out during COVID when all of the stars of the television went home and were doing things from their house and it was like, Hey, everybody, how are you doing today? No, you're not. No, it doesn't work that way. All right. So what's been going on in Austin is a nicely done bingo guard. You can check off the talking about audio stuff. Yeah, we got audio. We got health. Do we? Do we talk about Russian collusion and what's that exactly?

Yeah. Is it warm in Austin? It's getting warm here. And people are like, Oh my guy tried to not know. I get outside as little as I can see how high the heat just go by, how high the electric bill is when a low for you. Oh, it's you keep it fairly balmy inside. I well, I don't know if bombing is the word. I keep it comfortable for my reptiles, which we figured was what, 76 or something. 77 ish, which is what the government wants you to set of that you are just such a sheeple. I really am.

I know. It's just like they should get on those hats. I'm just glad I have the total sense that we put the new air conditioner in when we're having like three days in a row of 95 degree heat. And last night at like 11:00, it was still 82 degrees. It's like, yeah, that would not be cooling down at night to every single day in Texas. I know. But that's one thing is it's a little better in Austin than it was in Dallas.

But Dallas was a shock for me when I moved there because starting with the late spring and all the way through the end of fall, it doesn't cool down. It just so it's this it might be like 96, 98, a little over 100 during the day, but then it's like 88 all night long. And I'm not used to that. I'm used to pulling off at night. And it doesn't matter whether you live them, you know, over by the water like in California or you lived over by the water in Minnesota. Over by the water.

I go wherever, like at night you get a nice cool breeze right? You get some respite from the heat in Dallas does not have that. Now, Austin has just a little bit of that. It gets a little cooler still to warm it. Like I don't think it dip below 75 at night so your your best pool temperature is basically room temperature. But in Dallas it was significa only above room temperature and you'd still need to have the AC running on full blast all night long. It's the way I like it.

I'm glad we have the newer condenser. Put it outside because this would not be the time to be without the AC. Now that would be miserable. Unless you're a reptile. Yes. And then they're like, This is perfect. I love it. Uh huh. That's why I laugh when the government says no. 78. Then at night, turn it up to 82. I'm like, I would not sleep over. Was 82 degrees. Yeah, sleepily. I like it. About 65 degrees to sleep. That's about. That's too damn cold. No, I love the cold.

Oh, my God, That's so cold. You come on. I drop it down to. I've got one of those thermostat things that adjusts all throughout the day. Yeah, And you let the government adjust it when they need to. I turn that off. I did for a little while because they bribed me with a $100 payment, and then they realized they're insane because they kept the 83 degrees in the house. Oh, that's more than cool enough. Nothing to worry about. That's that may be fine for the for those things, but it's good for me.

The snakes are going up and you're like, they don't feel so bad. Uh huh. What is your CO2 level though? That's the real question. Then. What's it? It's been hovering around for 60. Got to do all these things that you want to live a thousand years. That's true. Yeah. So no way in hell I'm going to make it that long. But you know my plants like it. That's true. And I love this.

I've got a recent carrot that I took out of the fridge and stuck into the the indoor plant here that's now growing nicely. You've decided to grow some carrots. Well, I attempt to do that with a lot of food. Instead of throwing it away or eating. I theoretically, I actually have got potatoes and carrots are growing in the earth. You are one of these prepper guys, aren't you? Feel like I will be fine when they drop the nukes, except they don't have anything to protect me from the nuke.

Oh, but wait, I have this poncho. There's more. Yes. If I put the poncho on, I will be protected from radio. Active waves in the air. That's true. And you will look really good when they find your dead corpse. Of course, you could just be vaporized. So there's that. Yeah. I don't think arsons target number one, but it is probably up there in the top ten. Yeah, I don't think any anybody is safe unless you're out in the middle of nowhere.

Well, and the problem with being in the middle of nowhere like Kansas State or something is that's where our nukes are. Well, that's target is as well, right? You got to have the. You got to buy a little room in no rad down in the mountain and then you're okay. Insane. Yeah. Oh yeah. I think look in this area, I think South America is definitely the place to be. Why are all the people then coming here from those areas?

And you're like, Wow. Because they don't realize how close we are to nuclear war. Yeah. Otherwise they would have stayed down there. It is a very strange political climate that we are living in today and I blame the internet because everybody sees all the stupid shit on the internet. Uh huh. And everything gets amplified immediately. Well, that and then our media is I remember as a youngster and we had a reading about yellow journalism, right. And thinking, Oh, that is so ridiculous.

How did people not see through that stuff? And how did companies make enough money to stay afloat, being journalistic enterprises, doing young journalism? Well, I got my answer to that. Yeah. Now you learn propaganda pays. You're like, Holy shit, They made more money back then, didn't they? Like there was so many more newspapers back in the day. And by back in the day, I mean the late 1800s, early 1900, because it was the newspaper equivalent of the Internet. Yeah, that would be true.

Every time they come here, you all of a sudden can't afford to write stuff, take it down to the press and then have it published on pamphlets and start distributing them. And then next thing you know, they're selling ads for the local Ace Hardware. Well, you had to have some kind of money to be able to spread what you wanted to spread. If you were some schmuck with no money, you weren't going to get a voice. At the very least.

My point is you would get a voice because the technology had gotten so cheap, the printing press had become something that was so damn cheap that every little tiny pulled on town now had a printing press shop. Well, sure, they have their papers in the 1800s. And so anybody. Well, and that's the other thing is the paper industry, the lumber industry, I should say, started turning out paper, which became super cheap.

You know, paper was a premium in the 1700s that like it was expensive to get paper and printing presses. Boy, you probably have just a handful per state. I'm exaggerating it, but by the late 1800s, every Tom, Dick and Harry could afford to put together effectively what we would call now a newsletter, which became. Yeah, or which would become a newspaper. And there were always the newspapers that were a little bit off off center, as you said, maybe not outright yellow just today. Mm hmm.

Mm hmm. Now with The Times, Washington Post, all those. But at that point, we still had some people who took the job of trying to gather and report news accurately and honestly. Seriously. And we've lost that entirely. Almost. Yeah, I think so. I think we've lost that from newspapers for sure. I think it certainly is transitioning. I see guys like Tucker on X that come and go to all that, and I wish I still had my exact kind of credit card to read about.

Trailblazer. Well, I know I haven't one back then I was a trailblazer. I was one of the people that now you could probably sell that little piece of. Right. That's now that's what I was getting to was getting to is I wish I still had it instead of throwing it away because I probably could sell it on the babies at this point. I'd be in on the ground floor. Uh huh. I thought it was a great idea.

This was been late nineties I think is when the exact time came out and it was the the pre PayPal, it was the pay have a virtual bank, not a physical bank and everything's cheaper and you can you know, give other ex members money and stuff. It was a great idea they had a physical card and then the so that was before I guess Ellen joined up with a guy with the delegates name a Sergei or something was that I don't know the the the gay guy with the same good old gay guy.

The gay guy, the gay conservative or well, more libertarian, but I forget the name anyway. So Ellen had his whole idea with XCOM and that guy owned PayPal and then they joined forces combined with companies and became the dominant method of paying for eBay products and eventually for all kinds of other things. Yeah, and they were for years and years until eBay finally decided they wanted to make the money. Yeah, yeah. And they tried and they couldn't. And eventually they bought them

and. Well, now eBay is back, not using PayPal. So wait, what? You know, while I get paid now directly into my checking account, eBay changed the whole way they do payments. Really? Yeah. They finally split away from the everything is PayPal and, uh, which I understand would as a third party company. They're like, Wait, wait, wait. We could just take payment and then we'll pay you. And it's one of these things where if you want to pay a higher percentage or something, you can get paid instantly.

Otherwise, eBay does a thing like, you know, they pay you weekly or something like that. And for a long time they didn't even have the option. If you wanted to keep that money in an eBay account, which a lot of people that sell crap on eBay want to buy scrap on eBay. And eBay realized they were doing a disservice by converting that cash that people were making by selling things on eBay and sending it to their bank account when people would have been more than happy to go.

Now, I'll just let it sit with you this eBay, that of PayPal anymore because they bought them in 2002. I think they it's gone again. I believe I believe that separated yet again really is it is not the number one way but eBay wants people to pay now as weird the whole payment of money going across the Internet is a very interesting thing to watch from the original concept of a money.

You should be free when we're right back to well, you could be canceled for sending money to the wrong place or we will. We don't like what you said on your Facebook post. We're not going to let you have a PayPal account. Yeah, Yeah. That is a very strange kind of thing. And there's a I think this is from an Android P video that I watched, which I think is great. Right?

Them talking about the the idea that the difference between cash and PayPal and it would include all the cryptocurrencies as well. Well it depends I guess it depends on the cryptos to put an asterisk next to crypto but the basic idea is when used cash. The reason that cash was so powerful is because it doesn't require an intermediary. It doesn't require a third party. The third party is the guarantor of the cash, which would historically be backed by gold.

And it was the government of the place that you're in, whether it's a state government or a federal government or, you know, whatever country, somebody is backing up that cash with gold enough that they don't need to be part of the transaction and you're able to have direct transactions with somebody else, which means if ten people do business with each other.

So let's say, you know, a guy that the sells manure gets paid by the farmer who then sells the the plants, the carrots that he grows to, the grocer who then sells that same stuff to a a chef in a restaurant to themselves, or that the stuff that he makes then prepares to It could be the same guy that originally sold the manure. Right? So you've got all these transactions happening and full value is being transacted each time. So cash doesn't take a piece of the action, right?

Yeah. Nobody hurt the percentage, right? Where in today's world with the huge, vast majority of transactions happening electronically there, is there a private intermediary and they take anywhere between one and 4% of every transaction, which means after 12 transactions, that money is gone. The entirety of what that first person got paid has now been absorbed by the intermediary. Right. The business to be and has to be the intermediary. Absolutely.

Having your own bank is the surest way of being a billionaire. Yeah, because no matter what the commerce is, you're getting a piece. You're getting the piece multiple times a day, literally off of the same carrot that that that manure that was ended up in a long line of transactions. They're being served as food on the table to the same person like that. Full value doesn't get preserved. It doesn't stay in the population. It goes all of it through transaction fees to the intermediary.

So banks are evil in a lot of ways. I mean, there's a lot of pros to when it comes to being able to borrow money that you haven't yet made and then having somebody that has enough money to loan you to be able to do that. So I'm not saying that there's no good out of banks, but if you think about it in a very macro sense, the the bank is just siphoning off every transaction at a time, a piece of all the money in the country.

And eventually what you end up with is banks that are too big to fail and a population that feels like there's no more middle class because everybody's poor and only poor people use cash and you're well, there's a reason for that because the rich folk, they get their points maybe. Yeah. And I don't know when the last points are. And I'm not the same though, so I understand. But it's interesting because that's what convinces the person spending the cash to use a credit card.

There's a few different things that are in the well, why wouldn't they? One, a lot of times you'll get an extended warranty on some things you have recourse. So if you get home in the unwrap your package and realize inside the box wasn't what you had purchased. Yeah, you can complain to the credit card company and you may have protection where if you paid cash, not so much, but lately a lot of people use it strictly for the percentage that they're getting back. And different credit cards.

I mean, it's even at 1% that adds up. Just like the bank fees. When your credit card goes, hey, we'll give you 1 to 3% back. And I've seen one now that, hey, for groceries, the American Express that we buy our groceries on is always 3%. And they were trying to get me on a hey well if you go to the American Express where you pay us a couple hundred bucks a year to have the card, it's the next level up. Well, then you get 6% back on your groceries.

And I'm like, well, I spend a lot on groceries, you know, and you do the math and you figure out where that's worth it. But the reason then if you walk into the grocery store, why would I pay in cash when I'm getting 3 to 6% back on a credit card? So of course I'm using the credit card or you are. But the thing you got to remember is that money doesn't come out of nothing, which means that you're because you're getting 1% back.

They're charging the groceries are charging, they're charging literally everybody across the board an extra five, 6%. Right. So every one of your groceries is more expensive by at least 5%, I figure because the other guy, I'm getting the discount. But your discount is less than the increase in price of the grocery store. I know, but they won't give me a cash discount, which I think is insane.

But if if you know, if you have a store that does not use credit cards cash only then, which is very rare these days that you restaurant, it is generally cheaper. In fact, I remember for many years gas stations in the US have a cash discount. I think both of them don't anymore. Now they're just screwing the guys, paying with cash by charging them the same fees as they would for the credit card people, but for many years they had like a 4% discount if you pay cash.

Well, there is a one of the pubs here started doing if you pay with a credit card, it is one of the pubs. One of the pubs. Well it's a restaurant bar kind of thing. It's not a it's definitely not a fancy restaurant, it's not fully a bar so it's kind of a pub that's a, that's a bar place with food isn't it. Isn't that how you would consider a pub. But they do if you do with a credit card payment they're charging an extra 3% and a lot of people get pissed off. And I'm like, Well, why?

Because you still have the opportunity. And I think they did it the wrong way. Although I don't know what the legalities are at this point. If you could say you're getting a discount to pay cash because that would one frame it a lot better, People go, Oh, discount, that's great. Rather than you're getting an extra fee if you use a credit card, same thing. But the wording here makes people mad. Like, why? Why should I have to pay more? It's like, well, because do you not understand?

Every time you pay with a credit card, the credit card is charging us 3%. Yeah. And that like I wrote this before, one, I've had buying one a big credit card and you can't pay. I'm like, Oh, okay. But I'm not charge. Right. Percent more. Yeah, here's your new price. And I don't like Yeah, no, no. They're like, oh well, okay. Is it then they, they realize it's like, oh well should it be cheaper for me just to get money from the credit card and then pay him Cat. But yeah, exactly.

That's how it works. And frankly, if you don't have the money to pay me, then I may not want to work. But anyway, there was a guy that was a genius and I'm surprised more people did not pull this off. And I, I don't know if we talked about this because I heard this story maybe three or four weeks ago, but back when the United States Mint would sell, I don't remember. It was the gold dollars. There was one of those like the presidential dollar coins.

Well, they would sell them to you at cost with free shipping. So if you bought $1,000 worth of coins, they were $1,000. There was no shipping, there was no tax. So this guy would just buy it on his credit card and then take the coins to his bank and convert it back into cash and pay the credit card. Right. So he bought up millions of points and. Oh, that's awesome. Uh huh. That's a good scam like that is. Oh, how did I, why didn't I figure that one out? The guy had a lot of frequent flier miles.

That is a good start. Just miles. I mean, like you said, a lot of cards Just give money back, right? Yeah. So, I mean, it's a lot to do for 1% back, but it's really no work if you're just going to the numbers game. Yeah, right. If your credit card has a $20,000 limit, you might get 20 grand worth of coins a month. Yeah, I don't know. It'd be 240. Yeah. Quarter million worth over the course of a year and you're getting, you know, at least a couple of percent back of that. That's sizable.

I think a full time job for some people. No it's not. Well. Oh yeah. Financially. Yeah. But it would literally take you an hour a month. Yes. Do you place the order, you get the coins in your bank when. Hey you at some point, maybe if they did, why would they hate you? I guess it depends where all those coins go. I guess it is just cash, but it's like this is the greatest scam ever. You could buy currency on your credit card. Well, you still can.

I think at the Federal Reserve, if I remember right now, the federals are at the the is it the Federal Mint? It's whoever prints money, the U.S. Mint. You can buy uncut sheets of $20. And I can't remember how many there's per sheet. It's like 20 bills a sheet or something. You have to cut it yourself. Yeah. You have to get it yourself. And, well, most people don't cut it. They use it as a piece of art, you know, frame it, stick it on the wall, whatever.

But I'm pretty sure I paid with a credit card when I got the money. It's genius. So yeah, And I remember Steve was there talking about this many years ago, is that when he got rich off Apple, one of the trolls do you do I think we used to call these things pranks but I think now they're called trolls is to get these sheep.

And then when he'd go to a restaurant or someplace and he'd be buying something, he instead of pulling out, you know, Bill from his wallet and he would pull out an uncut sheet and a pair of scissors and then just cut out like a couple of $20 bills to give to the cashier. They're like, This is real. Yeah, exactly. And people are like, I need to call my manager. We can print your own money, sir. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, he's like, Oh, I got a great print and other things.

Awesome. Well, it's totally legal tender. That's, you know, and then eventually, after everybody gets all upset, the, you know, he'll explain it all or whatever, but it's, it is kind of neat to be like I can't imagine how expensive of a little wallpaper it is. Do real money on your wall. That would be really quick. But yeah, like you probably get knockoff money on your wall pretty cheap compared to real money. That's not a baller thing to do.

The baller thing to do is be like, No, that's real. Hundreds. Mm. Yeah. But I guarantee you, absolutely guarantee you there are, there are rooms wallpapered with real hundred dollar bills in Vegas. That would be the place to do it. Yeah. Because it's not, it's not that expensive but it is that gaudy. Oh yeah it is The town built on cash, baby and greed. If people not understanding the odds of winning. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

And then there were more like people thinking they understand their with true. If you just say, look, I don't understand these ads you're probably not going to play. But if you're like, Oh, I got it all figured out. I have a system that that's when you get in trouble. Famous final words of a gambler. I've got a system. Mm hmm. Sure. Fire. And I did a we talked on the last show about who talks more, and I did a quick I just went through each of our channels.

Uh huh. And did the silence thing down. Although that would still mean that between the silences only went down to a second. So it really the best I thought about it after I'm like, what I should do is get rid of any silence at all rather than including the pauses. But I came in at an hour and 20 minutes and I came in in an hour and 8 minutes and for a two hour show, it shows you how much we talk over each other. That's pretty good, actually. Yeah. Yeah. Wow, That's good.

Well, talking over each other, I think, is what makes it a conversation that. Well, that's true. It's not because otherwise the frickin monologue or it's a it's a dialog dialog. I guess it would be a dialog, but I prefer conversation to dialog because a dialog is something you watch on TV or you, you go see a play. Whereas conversation in real life doesn't have people patiently waiting for the others to finish their thought.

It has people that start talking while the other person is sort of finishing their thought. There's the overlap, no doubt about that. Yeah. And have you noticed the because I tried the bat signal on my screen deck to go out to Twitter no longer works. I don't know if something changed now because of the API or something with well, there's no more Twitter. It's called act. I know, but it doesn't send it to access. Where well did they rewrite their their thing.

I will have to look see if it was up. Probably not. They need to go to echo dot time though instead of going there. Like how that would make sense. I'm like, where's my bat signal? Yeah, exactly. I want my bat signal. Then I want to print up some aka to see what I was trying to figure out the legalities. We talked, I think about the the case of the prints image that the guy made some changes to. Was that was it a Warhol thing, Wasn't it? I know.

And then the Warhol people not win that one because I've been playing around with these air generators and they're very interesting for doing all sorts of different or better late than never guess. I know. Well, they're getting to be fair, they're getting better. And yeah, the ones I'm interested in, they're the ones to do video, not just images that I've seen a few of those.

I haven't started playing with those yet, but the most interesting I video things I've seen will allow you to take your video and totally re stylize it. You know, either change the background, change you know the whole thing. It's you walking down the street talking, right? So you want to post this YouTube, but then you could turn the whole thing into a comic looking drawing, kind of a thing. It's very weird.

But we're also at the point now where the images that these systems generate are still very small, like 1024 by 1024. But these systems that will now upscale are getting better and better as well. So you can take a small you will generate any site what you and you're a cheap ass don't want to pay any money yet is 1024 by 1024. Now I thought even the paid versions on mid journey and things like that only go up to that again. They're cheap as paid versions.

If you have the source code, you do your own deal. You could do any files you want. Which source code do you have? I don't see there anything that I was going to install stable the Fusion this weekend because the 1.0 finally came out. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think the there's yeah.

If you throw your own you, you don't have that limitation but I don't know I get into stuff like well over a year ago it may be pushing two years now and it was all very interesting and there's a lot of changes happening literally week to week. But the important things are do you have the rights, the full rights to these images? And if there's any question of that, it's definitely not worth paying money for.

The bottom line, from what I've heard and read everywhere, is that you do not have a copyright on the image, which would make sense. I think that worthless there's they're not worthless in the sense that you can monetize it, but you don't own the copyright, which means unfortunately it can be reproduced at will would be my guess. So you can put this out there. If you create a poster. Now you can't put a copyright on it, right?

It's it's sort of like like, here's Photoshop, but anything you create with Photoshop has to be open source or what's the, what's the CC see or whatever. Yeah, well, that's the modeling requirements. That is what the Photoshop A I was trained on was things within their own that they own the rights to, so they will not be trademarked for anything they said they will cover you if you get hit using their the interesting and they own huge libraries so that they can afford to do that.

They can definitely do that without any problems because they've paid the licensing fees or purchased the guy breath outright for massive amounts of images for their stock library. That makes a lot of questions. Are people trying to interpret? Because if there's any part of whether it's a text thrown out by chat group or art, if you go in and modify that, there is a point with enough modification, with enough transformation that that does become copyrightable. But I don't know what that is.

And I bet you most lawyers at this point don't know what that point is as far as, hey, I take this image, the A, I created it, but then I did this to the image. That's the question. What makes that unique? What makes it copyrightable? Yeah. The problem is that there is no answer to that question as of yet. It's always been subjective for hundreds of years of copyright law in this country is not objective. It's always subjective.

Now, the interesting thing for me when I'm like, okay, you can create all sorts of cool, like fashion posters. I'm like, okay, I had no idea before trying any of this stuff out that, you know, it's great that you can go in and tell the guy, Oh, create a photo realist Dick photo of Taylor Swift. Yeah, that's obviously you're infringing upon somebody's likeness. That's bad. Well, only if you're selling something with it. Correct. But you can't go and say, Hey, well, I created this.

It looks just like Taylor Swift. And it's a poster, but it's not real. It's art. You're still going to run in run afoul of the. Well, no, If it's art, you don't have a problem there. You are kidding me, too. You've got literally thousands, if not millions, of artists, for lack of a better term. They're selling with Elvis paintings and that Marilyn Monroe paintings and all these people have estates that could be suing people.

But you can't because if you create an artistic work of a public figure, that public figure does not have the copyright to go after you. It just can't be based upon a copyrighted image, which is where the Warhol thing. Yeah, of course. Of course. You take photograph of somebody that another person took and then you just make it into something slightly different. Right? You're going to get nailed. Yeah.

But I think all the air is doing and this is for me, this is the easy way to explain to people is let's say I hired a back. Well, maybe it's even doable these days, but back in the day, let's say I hired a high school kid on their summer break to take and find images that I like that I want to use. And something and then go in and apply a bunch of filters in Photoshop so it doesn't look like it's that image, right?

So it's not an obvious ripoff, like do at least four filters per image to tweak things and make sure that like the size is different and that the background's different. And then after you do the four filters, just put them all in this other folder. That's basically what I is doing now. The cool bit about it is it's letting you give instructions to that kid to do this stuff, not in the whole image, but by pieces of image.

I want two people and I want mountains in the background and I want birds flying overhead to find those three different images, combine them together, run them through filters and give me the final product. Yes, make it look pretty well. Might even do it in different make it look different. I mean, it's great that you can do things. Yeah. Like, hey, I want this to look like a Peter Max painting and boom, it is. Yeah, exactly. Peter. Max, though I have.

I did a photo of my ex-wife back when we were married in a four color or like a four panel different, like World War II thing. Yeah. Yeah. It was to the Warhol knockoff. So I did that in Photoshop, and then I had a printed on a like a three foot by two foot canvas, and that was a birthday gift for her. She loved it. It looked awesome. But it's, you know, like it's iconic enough that it wasn't that hard just to make it Photoshop for me, right? Well, yeah, because it's a stamping kind of a thing.

You're changing the colors and. Mm hmm. Yeah, because that's all work, all that. Then you figure out that there are actions that will do the whole thing and automated for yet another art.

Yeah, back, back then I don't think there were, but yeah, now do for sure now everything is spoon fed to you and the thing that that kind of depressed me about thing was being able and it's like this is why for any of the brands that normally would pay the supermodels to use their image and that's why supermodels in the past have been paid millions of dollars per year. Yeah, that that's over because same thing with same thing with actors.

Well, you can create your own. And I'm like, This is weird. Once I realized you could do that, you can mix people. I was like, Oh, well, Taylor Swift's heart and Adriana Lima's heart. What happens if you mix the two? Oh, I know, yes. And then I'm like, Holy shit, this person doesn't exist. That's the first such a perv. But it's not. Yeah, that's a what would it look like? And what would she look like? This is like, dressed up and DSM. No, I didn't. I didn't get to that part yet.

I have to get out. That's the next step. The jean model for the eye. And it'll. It'll just spit that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I it's like this is because you aren't really infringing on somebodies likeness and I know that you have all sorts of different things you can do and artists and all that, but you're not really infringing on somebody. Like, does it feel like, well, let's take these three models and just mix them together, see what that comes out? Oh yeah, that one's good.

Let's now let's use this. The new model. Yeah. It's a blending tool for people, huh? Absolutely. Yeah. It's I think that that is a great use of it. And it should do what should have been done a long time ago, which is actors and models should never be rich, never will. But things are bad, while ones are unique, is now easily reproducible. Models were never rich until a photography came along and you have models for paintings. It wasn't the model that got the accolades.

It was the painter and they made him have a great at the model that they were using when they were painting. And that's why, you know, the painting looks so cool. But does anybody really remember the woman that that Aw, man that posed for Mona Lisa? Nope. They remember the guy that painted it. Well, it was once, as you said, once you were able to capture the image of somebody accurately. Mm. Then the physical beauty became a thing that you could

monetize. Yep. And exactly. Brands paid big money because they wanted the most attractive people. The beauty is so it's interesting you're talking about this because or maybe it's that maybe it's incidental, but there are I just saw a story about how there are more and more virtual boutique on like people with a lot of followers, social media people. Yeah, but there's the influencers. Influencers.

Yeah, there's a growing number of fully virtual video influencers, like they're computer generated computer models and not just doing it to get, you know, people following them, which I'm sure helps as well. But doing that and then selling their the influencer service to brands. So I watched a couple of commercials that were done by these is essentially a cartoon, right? They're super photorealistic, but they're essentially cartoons in the sense that they're done.

They well, you could tell computer there are no, not not these man looks completely like a hot chick. But why would you say it was cartoon? Just because I think cartoon that because it looks cartoony but because it is a you know, it's like a character in the video game, right? It's a 3D model. Yeah. Well, it looks really animated. It's an anime. It's a cartoon. I meant animated. So you can tell it's not a physical person, but it looks damn close. No, you cannot tell at all.

But the guys buying the advertising say, Hey, we'd like to, we'd like this character to do this and have her be on the mountaintop and drinking the soda and then have her be flying an airplane and next scene and like it can you can do anything like stuff that a real person can't do, like standing on the moon right now. Right. We've never been through that because we've never been there.

So, you know, just all these things that that they can do because it's animated, but it's photo realistically animated. Right. And so the end result is and this is from I think it's from Advertising Age is that the clients love the. Oh yeah. And the clients being the brands, the brands are like, oh, he said, this is perfect. We don't have to put up with a long time schedule. This is done fairly quickly.

There is no risk of that model not being available because a models are flaky and B, you know, they're, they're more prone to, if they're doing physical activity is more prone to do something that gets them, take it out of commission, blah, blah, blah. So now we can have something that is on a real guaranteed schedule. Looks better than the human. And although I'm sure you would, you would argue with that, but it's great.

It is fulfilling a clearly a desire that exists with the brands to have somebody that that that can be a spokesman for their brand that isn't an actual human being with all the problems of a human being. Well, yeah, you're never going to go I'll Jared from Subway. Exactly. Exactly. There's never going to be I mean I never say never because humans are still involved in this process. But you're extremely unlikely to have this computer generated model do something that gets them in trouble.

That would be true. It would be very not going to be. Yeah, they're not likely to be accused of rape by somebody or, you know, molestation or anything else. It's like it's a purely computer generated image that has no real interaction with anybody, but also is a computer generated animation that is followed by a million people plus.

Yes. And I've no I mean, again, the weirdness with the AI is that with the prompts and everything that people have built into these things in the way it's been trained, I did have the very weird vibe. It's like when you create some of these. I pulled up against some Taylor Swift stuff and it's like the A.I. Taylor Swift often looks better than the real Taylor Swift because the is like, Well, yeah, we've got to get rid of any imperfection. Of course.

Well, I think it's simple in that I think that the majority of Taylor Swift images are controlled through photos of her and so the A.I. is biased towards those images, whereas the perfect little photo from somebody's phone when they're walking by her is a small percentage of images.

So you're going to have a much more controlled cleaner, prettier version of Taylor Swift, right set of this big kind of hulking force like thing that somebody might see walking on the street and how instantaneous it can do things like show me this person in like a 1950s advertisement. Oh, it's just so bizarre. It does that. So well. And it's like, again, if you're trying to create things for advertising, why wouldn't you use that instead?

And you feel like, Oh, you know what, I'd really like, know who would be the perfect spokesperson? You know, somebody that looked like Taylor Swift but more exotic. So again, you got well, look, let's mixer with this Brazilian model here and this. Okay, we're good. There's the new person. I imagine, like you can now compare campaigns for the whole world using people that look like that local demographic. Oh, yeah. But doing the exact same activities. You're right.

Immediately. Immediately. Yeah. It's coming. It's huge. And I don't know if you saw a right now SAG is on strike. Yes. And Bryan Cranston from the bad. Yeah. Breaking Bad. Malcolm in the Middle an idiot. There's a clip of him ranting behind the podium, talking about how actors are relevant and that they shouldn't be replaced with machines. It's like, Oh, my God, too little, too late. The of all the first of all, like, he is enough of an actor that he would not be affected by that.

What is affected what the studios have already started doing which totally make sense. I'd be doing it if I a studio and because you know it it's financially smart is instead of paying for extras that don't actually have speaking parts, just do all CGI for that. All computer generated humans are all based around AI, so they're nonexistent humans that you don't have to pay anything for.

You're paying the guys that do the CGI anyway for the movie, you might as well have them go the extra step and throw in an AI controlled background people. And of course everybody knows that that's a short, small, short step away from not leading actors. Well, you don't have to worry about making them. You don't have to. There's so many things that the yeah, the computer concept is going to take care of.

And again, for people like you and me that don't like to get up and, you know, get dressed and look pretty to do a podcast. Wouldn't it be great if you could just do that and it would all we could be on YouTube and we'd have a show right sitting there. And but then also that people wouldn't recognize you when they saw you out in real life because the avatar.

Yeah, does not look like you, especially if you say things that piss people like a guy who saves us, have got a long beard and we're abstracted. You'd never recognize the millionaire. No, I mean, people don't know. You really have a full head of hair. No beard. Genes like £120 of pure dynamite. Uh huh. A lot of people. I don't remember a time when I was £120 ever, period. Yeah, I'd be like, I think I was born bigger than that.

Yeah. I mean, I was by the time I was in eighth grade, I think I was already six one. So, you know, it's been a while. It has been a while. But I like, you know, I'm not again, I'm not a beautiful model. So this the I visual things don't really bother me. I'm not a multi-million dollar actor so these things don't bother me. But again, the reason that we have multimillion dollar actors is because that's the only way that it was possible to make multimillion dollar movies.

And so actors having lawyers that negotiate on their behalf and agents and whatnot, you end up with movie studios, go, well, you know, we pay them 30 million, then we could probably pocket the other 400 million. Well, we'll look at how much money is spent and how many resources are spent to get the shot. The latest mission Impossible movie. I watched a little mini documentary thing, you know, about 20 minutes long.

And the one stunt that Tom Cruise did while taking the motorcycle down, a really rant. I watched that, too, dude, That was great. It was it was fantastic. But with the technology getting where it is, yeah, soon you'll just be able to punch that into a machine. It's even even that great. The stunt ended up in the movie, but the the CGI was everything outside of the motorcycle itself, including the graphs, including everything was CGI.

Yeah. You didn't see him going down some really big long arm for no apparent reason. It was just a you know, he did the stunt and that's really cool. And I like that about Tom Cruise. I think he's a crazy dude, but crazy in the in a fun good way and wants to do is back together. He's got his own religion. That's cool too. But you know, like, it's unnecessary. It's it's probably already unnecessary today. They could have CGI, the whole thing, but he likes doing that kind of stuff.

He likes getting the adrenaline going and he keeps the feet and stuff his back. You want that other little bit of realism, too, which you're still getting a little bit more of that even with the technology we have today. But I think in five or ten years it's going to be the same. You're not going to be able to see a difference. Yeah, no, no. And this was all predicted in the 1980s movie called Looker, I believe. I don't remember that one.

I thought you go with weird science because I'm still trying to figure out how I could just type a few things in. And Kelly Brock appears in my house a Yeah, it was a michael Crichton movie. It was called Looker. Jean recounts movies he hasn't seen for 20 years. I know it's is this 81? It came out in 81. This is how good my memory is, right? It must be. I'll never be 12 for useless things, right?

Looker is 1981 American science fiction film written and directed by Michael Crichton, starring Albert Finney, Suzanne Day and James Coburn, follows a series of mysterious deaths plaguing female models who have undergone cosmetic surgery from a renowned Los Angeles physician. By the way, physicians don't do plastic surgery, but okay. And that's Wikipedia. Where do you expect if they're going to get it wrong? But then I'm not going to click on the link.

But the next sentence would say after contracted by movie studios to create digital likenesses of themselves. So this is the bit that is a little like me is that these actors models go in to a plastic surgeon, get made to look, quote unquote perfect, then get scanned by the studio. In a very 1980s looking high tech scanner. So it looks like something out of like Tron. Yeah, that looks just like out of Tron. Exactly.

Except not as good because the budget was smaller and and then they died because it's cheaper to not have to pay them for their likeness. Again, this kind of misses the point that, well, yes, but their relatives would still own that. But that was a cool movie. I remember enjoying it in 1981. Well, it's interesting because likenesses overall, we never had the technology, so there was no reason to worry about, wow, somebody might put Marilyn Monroe back in a movie, which they have now. Mm hmm.

You know how many years after her death and Elvis had been a whole bunch of movies, you know, because they have the enough sauce material, which, you know, again, if you're Taylor Swift, there's so much source material out there, you can be recreated whether you want to be or not. You I guarantee there are Taylor Swift doing shit already in Chinese porn. Well, it's also for the catfishing concept.

Just imagine that this is also a very interesting thing because back in the day, if you were trying to catfish somebody, well, maybe you would go grab a photo of a real person and that's it. Oh, is that what you would do? Oh, you know, you go with your reverse image search, You know, it was always trying to figure out how you could track these people down. Now that you can create completely new characters, completely new people out of thin air. Right. That are on track. Well, yeah.

Speaking of catfishing. Yes. Oh, you want to do that? You want to try that with somebody? This isn't part of the show. I know right now. That's is funny. So I have a buddy of mine that got a security clearance about a year and a half ago or so. And I think get this for his work. But he almost immediately, probably within like two months, started getting messages or connection requests and LinkedIn, of all places, for by these very cute Chinese girls.

And most of them were like saying they were in California or they were somewhere on the West Coast. But, you know, some of them clearly had some Chinese characters in there, like it's a no time at all for those connection requests by completely random have nothing in common. Clearly, 20 something year old looking Chinese girl, you didn't you didn't want to jump on that train? No, I told him, Well, this is bullshit.

So now it means, you know, if I want this, I need to get a security clearance first. That's bullshit. This is too much work. I was security clearance. All of a sudden. Fang Fang wants to bang, bang. Yeah. Back when I had mine, nobody wanted to bang, bang. Anybody really want information you've got so clearly not. And I had some pretty cool info back in Desert Shield. You remember Desert Shield? The Storm? Yeah. Yeah, the original. The original? Yeah. Not the the preppy remake.

Back when people were still behind wars and, well, not so much, but, yeah, my craft has gotten different. I mean, it used to be a lot more interpersonal. Now it's more just they're going to start to depend on your IP address. They've always been sniffing out your IP address, but there you had them. I mean, you go back to before IP addresses. Well, I mean, technically no, but there were certainly IP addresses were used a lot less. But.

But do you think this I mean, we're already here, which I think is bullshit. The there was a story. How many school districts are suing social media saying that it's unhealthy for children, which it is but I don't know how the school districts get involved when the reality is that this is a parenting decision. You know, if parents want to let their kids be on the Internet at 12 years old, that's up to them. It's the same thing, you know, it's I think you have to be 13. Well, they say that.

But, you know, parents give kids much younger. Oh, yeah, just click here. It'll just say yes. You know, I've seen parents that give their four year olds tablets, like, fully unsupervised and you're like, are you crazy? It's like, seems like that. It's like dropping a kid off at the adult bookstore, right? And then saying, Hey, now, don't, don't do anything. I wouldn't. And that's it. People don't understand. The Internet is not safe for adults. It's certainly not safe for children.

And thinking that there's anywhere that you could do any kind of filtering or whatnot. It is absolutely a joke. But part of this lawsuit was the usual that, you know, girls body image, eating disorders and all of that. With the advance of this, I again, you could just create things that are not humanly possible like a Taylor Swift Adriana Lima clone, very sick. How many times are going to mention that's another multiple bingo card, right is right there. Right there.

You can't have an episode without Darren mentioning Avery out of Lima less frequently, but still quite often, if you just want to put. Well, I like the Adrian Adrian Curry more than that. We like the big eyes. I don't know about big guys. I just like Adrian. Great. I like her personality. Of course she's she's got the right definitely is a chick that I like. I would enjoy. But you think there are issues that she's old even, but she's still hot.

But they're claiming that the kids are having issues now on social media because of actual photographs being shared by actual, you know, peers of theirs, you know, or adults, whatever. But soon it's going to be the I and of course, the guy who's going to create a bad looking out of shape, ugly, deformed a person. No, we're going into another phase of, oh, it's got to be perfect, got to be beautiful. This is what you should be. As you said, when people are creating

these fake influencers, there's big money there. Why? Because they're perfect. Mm. Yeah, they're totally perfect. Which is is what you want. Because people forever have been. And see, this is where I talk about where you are, you know, this forever have been using the beauty of this show. We could do a two hour show Photoshop that if you have only one 2 hours you can get a four hour show. I know. It's great. It's it's what everybody likes. So they do really want 4 hours while it's there.

It's just secretly hidden for you, right to separate left and right and listen to them separately. All right? Or just not listen to one of them. And some people, I'm sure, would love to do that. They keep talking about unknowns in the circle. They just turn to the one side. They're like, we just get Darren in the left channel and then like Jean on right and turn in the left. Nobody in the right. It's just, Yeah, we technical difficulties, huh? Uh huh. But that's not entirely true.

I mean, there are some people and I mean, I guess we actually have multiple people that have donated for the show, so maybe we should do a donation segment before we get it right. The end of the show. Let's let's do it, though. It's a rarity for us because we are a value for value podcast. We just don't have a lot of people that take us up on that. Well, no, I think we are value for value and we know what our value is. It's it's it's very high. And no, it's it's damn near nothing.

It's it takes a very, very specific person to get value out of the show. And when we find those people, we appreciate it. But number one, today we pull this into the into the middle monitor just so I can I can read this properly, Dale from Down under once again, coming in with the mythical. 103 48 donation and I emailed he just starts out with a little bit because I emailed them.

It was that one week and he sent in one of these donations and I had something going on and we had to push it and that was one of the first times we actually rescheduled the show for a monday or something. Or do we always do them on Monday? It gets confusing. We always do. On the Monday we talk about it is like, Oh shit, I had no idea. He emailed, I sent it and took off. I've been on holiday for a couple of weeks. I hope you've been enjoying that. It's like I feel bad now.

You didn't have to do a show like, Well, we do, because, I mean, if somebody supports the show, when Jean and I are like, Wait, people are listening, we perk right up. You know, that's the beautiful part of the whole thing. We perk right up. It's like somebody is listening. Really? Yeah. We have a hard time believing that. But on their list they're listening and they like the show. There are 67 out of the street right now.

There was some talk it might have been I wouldn't say that there's 67 on the stream. They would say there might be 67 streams that are currently turned on. True. But we don't know how many are listening to them. They could just be three letter agencies monitoring them. There was some talk I don't remember if was before or during, but it wasn't for them if they would never What he, let's face it off right, would be like nothing at all, man. So we love you guys at the NSA. Thanks for listening.

And gals don't want to miss gender. But there was some chatting before maybe Grumpy Old Ben's or after or during on the we were questioning whether Dale from Down Under was actually real or if he was just a pseudonym for you that you really needed to talk to somebody so badly that you were sending in the donations in order to keep the show going? Well, that would literally be impossible, as I keep telling people to not send money. So, you know, it happens, he said. We've got 20% inflation.

I don't understand why anybody would be sending money at all. You're throwing them off with that. So maybe things are good in Australia, though, although I doubt it. Well, they're upside down, so maybe the money's falling out of our pockets and into there is this is possible. Could be going right through. If we dig a hole it'll go right through to China. That kind of a concept but it kind of does dales actual notes as comrades.

Girls call them pigs, boys call them suckers and idolizing mediocre pussy or simp for short after a light ribbing, which I appreciate, sir gene handling with dignity. Yeah, because he took a share some shots at you, I think. And in the last letter he says that incident and the following events have revealed a sinister plot. The banning for my RC. Of course. This being your banning for my RC. Yes. Not just control room. The protocol itself.

Yes, Gene has been the protocol I RC somehow he's been banned. Uh huh. Second class audio channels getting him on his day off for some smartass prick in Australia. It's clear to me that Sir Gene is a beautiful butterfly trapped and unable to escape the chrysalis, Sir Darren No instructed around him. Fly free, sir. Gene, stay unrelenting. That's a mouthful. No. Yeah. I wonder what he's trying to button me up where he's probably going to ask. I've been asked sitting in my inbox.

Yeah. So on your next show, or it'll just be the next letter. It'll be totally. I've said this before and it's that I think that's been the case for a long time. As I, I think everybody I treat everybody the same like shit. So. Yeah, well, yeah, there's really no, uh, nobody should get offended. And me trying to point to them specifically because all my comments are literally spread out to pretty much everybody I know. Some people tend to internalize.

Yeah, they they think I'm talking to them specifically when I, you know, Australia a penal colony or something. But I'm not I'm referring to all of Australians not not just any individual Australian you're trying to get as many had one little less slam as yeah I'm generalizing that's what that's what people do.

You know you generally is based on historical facts and you say well not much of stage that especially people with podcasts, we generalize, we try be a little bit provocative That's what you're I leave that up to you you and all your provocative photos that you're creating in your basement in which you are an agent provocateur. I'm not in the basement now. It's got the flooring all torn up.

Got to get new carpet put down there, but you're not sitting ankle and rot in the water in the basement doing this by death with live wires running everywhere. What I should get out of the nick. The racket for your heart during the year. You could have yet to be very, very humid out there. That'd be good. Yeah. We have a new sump pump system going in on Monday morning. Somebody's been spinning the big boat. Yeah, well, once you flood twice, you're like, how much is the one with the to donate.

The people there needs a new, a new gadget to suck that water out of his basement. So yeah. It's like 1700 bucks. Is it really. Holy shit. Yeah. For the for the unit, the install. Why is it that much. Because I remember I remember putting some pump back in the eighties. It was like 220 bucks the the pumps themselves. This is a system that has two pumps of the same unit. So which is I know this is overkill, but the wife is like I am never carrying this up the stairs again.

After the flooding thing. So this is two discrete pumps of the same system. So if one of them fails, the other one can kick in and. There's a battery backup system which would pump the sump pump. Yeah. For at least 24 hours of power out. How big is this? The battery. Like a car battery. Oh, my God. But this way, if the power, which is what beat us twice, was the power going out during a heavy rain. Thus the sump pump start running. Right?

So it was either that or a whole house generator, which also we considered maybe drilling a well. The well there is a well. That's where the sump pump goes down into. But when it rains, it overflows and it gets to be too much and it comes into the basement. Okay, that's just poorly designed house, probably, But that's what everything is all up and down.

Yeah, the street here we really having the basement is Well I it's nice for certain things but the reality is you're probably better just building an extra level on the higher of the house. Well and so this is the way all houses are down in Texas. And by all, I mean most nobody has basements like it's super, super, super rare. And if there's a basement, it's probably like a full walk out in the back. It's only based on the front. But I was very surprised. Oh, wine cellars.

No, no, I'm told I was very surprised this because, you know, I grew up in a place where everybody has a basement, you know, So there's a a first of all, you have tornadoes, right? This is the basement. I was going to say, this is the one place you can go if you want to take refuge from a tornado. The best thing you can do to avoid a tornado will not live next to a trailer park. But true because trailer park there literal for tornadoes. They have never been anywhere that.

But it seems that it's statistically true. If you look at the paths or tornadoes, they tend to bend towards trailer park and away from downtown areas. It's kind of like whoever is in charge of the tornadoes are like, I don't like people in trailers. Well, I think it may have more to do with the construction of the maybe there's some material utilized then in the trailer park that is attracting tornadoes.

I don't know if you would spread some higher power to a tornado, but yeah, I think there is something to it. He right there a rarity. I think there was one that touched down in Chicago recently, but normally tornadoes in downtown Chicago, they don't mix. Yeah, well it's because the wind flow and everything else. There was one in Fort Worth maybe a decade ago that that went through and actually did some damage to buildings in Fort Worth proper. But it's super, super rare.

Like your odds of being involved in a tornado if you live in a condo downtown are .00000 whole bunch of zeros in a one. So versus if you're living in a trailer park anywhere in the United States, your odds are about one in five and you're going to go for a ride. Yeah Imagine to be in Kansas anymore, that's for sure. No. Well, you may I watched the video. That was a great video of a tornado going through that was filmed by of those security cameras.

It was a totally peaceful knowing that all kind of parking lot. And then all of a sudden you can see the trees starting to go left right in the background and you start seeing some small debris flying by the cars and then you see trees bending over like they shouldn't be. And a large, large crap flying through. And some were hitting cars like people size things, flying not actual people, but hope not. Yes. Like, you know, 3 to 6 foot long pieces of some kind of debris flying around.

And then just like it started, it was gone. The whole video was about 3 minutes and it was back to totally quiet. No wind at all, except that a lot destruction came through. Interesting thing. And this makes sense if you think about it, but cars are completely unaffected by tornado. Usually not none of the cars were moved and then the cars that anything weird going on. And this was literally throwing large debris around which hit the cars. There's damage, but they did not get moved.

And the reason it shouldn't be surprised is because cars have aerodynamic considerations. Right for gas mileage and trying to keep it on the ground, you know, the more or less so. I mean, that's only at high speeds, but at at reasonable speeds, they're they're really built to have airflow around them, not interacting with them. So while the wind speed in the tornado is high, it's more the force than the speed itself.

That is the issue is when you have a, you know, typical wind is you have gusts that might you might go from five mile an hour steady wind to 25 mile an hour gusts in a tornado that it's all the same speed the whole way through, which is why if put sufficient enough pressure on the surface area to move large object, because it's not just a little bit of a gust, it lets up again, it's continuous.

And so with cars, well, I'm sure there have been instances of cars moved by a tornado, but for the most part, even a 180 mile an hour wind isn't going to move a car because your engine may not get the car up to 180 miles an hour. But the car that you buy today has better aerodynamics than race cars, than Ferrari's did 30 years ago. The one good thing I've never met, I've never been I would never advise somebody to sit in a car during a tornado.

It don't sit out, watch like, hey, this looks nice, but I would probably do exactly that. Your home versus in a house with no basement. Well, this is true. This is your house. Here's some. Yeah, here's the news. Your house was not designed to be aerodynamic. No, no, It was not so concerned about wind. I mean, I've never been in a tornado. Our buddy John Fletcher from the Hog Story show that you did that one time. Never done that show. But yeah, one of those. Oh, I did. I did it once, right?

Yes, that's right. I didn't do it once. You're right. You didn't inhale, though. I did not inhale. And that's why I was confused the entire show. I was like, what are we talking about? Is I think we were talking about BDSM. And I kept trying to, like, ask questions that were relevant and they kept not answering them. And then changing topic. This is what they do, exactly what they do.

But yeah, I don't I know one of those big storms that, you know, a few weeks ago that y'all that had down there in Texas a lot of those big storms. He had a tornado his power was out for days. But the tornado, he said, was within 100 feet of his house. I'm like, now that's I guess that's lucky to get that close and not have your house picked up and and carried away. The closest I've ever been is about 500 feet.

I hear the noise those things make is unlikely to be explained by anything except maybe a freight train going by it like a freight train for sure, but nowhere near the noise of a lightning strike. And I was about 60 feet away from one of those. And I was standing there with a camera and I'm taking photos. Well, did you get the picture? I did not. That's the part, that stuff.

But then afterwards I realized I've had a lot of moments in my life where I realized after the moments and a lot of them had to do with cameras. I used to be really big in biography is, Boy, how did I make it out of there? So I, I it was a rainy day and it was there was a lot of lightning in the air. So I did the most sensible thing you can imagine.

I drove my car up to a big hill, grabbed my metal tripod, ran up the hill to get a beautiful photo of lightning, get the higher ground gene with the metal pole. Yeah, Yeah. Because, you know, everything is metal back then and back and then putting cameras and tripods in the back and film these heads and yeah, it was. I got a few decent shots, never got anything that was really pretty. And then all of a sudden I kind of felt my hair standing on them.

And then the loudest crack you've ever heard in your life. Yeah. And after it. And then, like, everything got dark. Not because I was scared, but because the flash that was literally feet away from me is like, realistically, it was probably a hundred feet, but it looked like it was about ten feet away. But it was so bright that my irises went into day mode, right? And it was the middle of night. And so now I'm like, Well, what the hell just happened?

Yeah. So I grabbed my grab my stuff, ran back down the hill, threw it in the car. They were driving, and there was a huge puddle on the exit, the parking lot that was probably about a foot and a half deep. And I just decided to fuck it. I'm just going to it. Water through there. And just as I came out of the puddle of my engine died and I was like, Oh, this is perfect day.

So I pushed the car up, turned over the engine a whole bunch of times, and finally it caught, but it didn't sound good, and I drove it back home, barely. And so that day, not only did I almost get hit by lightning, but I also blew a head gasket. Oh, nice because the back pressure from being the exhaust being under water. Yeah, that's not good, because a little too much pressure and the head gasket blew. That's a a gasket inside the engine.

For those of you that have no clue how cars work, that in a drive. That's all I know, right? It's like it was just as a battery. What are you talking about? So then I had a buddy of mine next weekend come over and help replace the head gasket on that engine. So I was like, I know my way around cars, but I also don't enjoy tinkering with cars. So if I can pay somebody to do it for me, I tend to do that more often. Like everything else.

I mean, you like don't really, you know, you could cook, but you could pay somebody else to do that. You can work on your car, You can pay somebody to do that. You can jerk off, you can pay them, I guess. Well, you could. You could definitely. Good. But I know the sound of the lightning. I'm sure this is the closest I've ever been to a lightning strike was when I was at high school. Mm hmm. We're sitting in class, storm coming through, and right of the window.

I was on the second floor, and right outside of the window, there were a bunch of temporary classrooms which were pretty much permanent, but they were trailers. So we had the trailers there. So the roof of the trailer was about the same level, obviously, as the floor that I was on. And it was the noise. The noise hit and it was the loudest thing he had ever heard. Multiple windows in the classroom shattered due to the noise.

And we all get up and we look out and obviously the lightning had hit the roof and it hit this trailer because the whole top of this thing, it was still raining fairly hard. It was just steaming like a sauna. Yep. It was like, holy crap, that was intense. And it is like anybody in a trailer at the time. Yeah. And I've seen some slow motion videos of lightning strikes. They're so beautiful, man. They look so cool. So definitely. Well, yes, deadly for sure.

But they're they're absolutely beautiful. I mean, it's just it's a it was a rare event that I think everybody should appreciate when they have an opportunity to be near one. As long as you stay safe, obviously, you know, don't do what I did right. Do not go outside with a golf club waving around. You know, you have no rubber shoes. You want to be inside and you want to be on the ground. Yeah. Do you want to have full melted feet? Is that the goal here? Because that's going to happen.

Well, now, are you mad that the ice could just reproduce the photograph? Does that make you know, you have to shoot? That's great. That means everybody can get the shots they want. I'm all for that. I think I've always been very pro technology. When we moved to digital cameras from film cameras, I was right there right from the get go. You know, I remember the crappy s resolution we had a digital, but I was still very much a a big fan of digital.

It was like, you know, that digital hit, it was not even close to what you could get out of a film camera. Oh, no, no. Now I think, you know, I think it's surpassed it. I mean, a lot of people will argue it, but. Well, they're not very they don't understand how film works then. Yes. Even slide film, which is typically really high res and for color and then black and white was the highest growth. But it was we're well beyond that point with digital now.

We're we're at the point where we're we're really pushing our eyeballs like we're at a point digitally now at over 100 megapixels where arguably most people can't see that well with their eyeballs, even with their kids. Yeah. Which is when you have your best visions, when you're a kid. Well, the interesting thing is there are now dedicated programs in things like within Photoshop, which will take the digital photographs and make it look like analog there.

So it's like you're getting enough data where you can now just go, okay, well, let's we do this kind of processing. This will look like you said to me because you're deteriorating the quality. Yeah, well, exactly. But you're doing it to get a certain look. You know, again, there is something to be said for that completely, 100% crisp, clear photograph. But I love the look of saying, Well, put this person in a 1950s. Sure, sure. And there is that. It's that certain look that you're going for.

So, yes, it's not perfect, but it is a recreation of the way things used to look. I mean, Polaroids, let's remember Polaroids, kids, horrible. I know, But that's how people remember them fondly. That was the original. Like you didn't have to look really good because the Polaroid was going to just smooth out that acne, you know? Well, you had nothing to worry about because the detail wasn't there. But that was one of the biggest things.

When HDTV came out that nobody had really thought about was all of like the newscasters had all these small little stations across the country who were like, Oh, I look like crap now. Yeah, we're not meant to be seen in HD. Gina and I are not meant to be seen in HD. I look just fine in HD. I've been on for impact of HD. But the thing, the thing with HD is obviously you see a lot more of the imperfections and the variances, but you also do in real life massive changes like you're used to.

You're if you're not a and then so you're used to looking at other people up close. So HD looks more like that, whereas pre HD video looked artificially plasticky smooth. There was a reason why everybody preferred it. Yeah. And there's also and you could like with nobody preferred it actually it was that glow, it was that glowing ness that was it was a pound of makeup too. That's the other thing that was horrible. And I've never liked that.

I hate, I hate makeup when I was doing photoshoots of models, I always had my own stylist working on there because she knew that I wanted really light makeup. Just stick to the basics, get the eyebrows and eyelashes and, you know, a little bit of gloss and lips, but just keep it super simple. I don't want to take photo of a lathering of makeup. I want to take a photo of the person behind. Yeah. Then you could go into Photoshop and fix whatever you need to fix.

Yeah. Which I you know, that's the other thing that was also a difference. And I think I talked about this on either on our show or my other show. I can't remember anymore, but you don't even do the other one anymore. You've kind of given up on that. No, the other other one. Oh, the good old boy every week. The girl boys. Yeah, but men have probably this job. But I, I mentioned that back in the day after digital was out and after people were doing a lot of tweeting in Photoshop, a bunch of us.

And I was part of that group that put together a group called Through the Lens right? Yeah. We hear you talked about that. Okay, good. Yeah. Well, then, same thing. So the point is, the real skill, in my opinion, is getting what trying to create as an artist to be what comes out of your camera. Because although people are getting paid the big bucks to get that out of an eye and all they're doing is creating problem and it's sad and that's fine.

No, that's perfectly fine. I'm not against that at all. Is that another You will look at that as a viable form of artistic? Absolutely it is. It is literally how how? And frankly, dude, it might save the English language because texting has fucked up the English language. Oh, and if it if then, if it requires you to be more articulate and use more descriptive language and know the meaning of more adverbs and additive in order to create beautiful art, well then great.

I'm all for that. You know what? That is blowing my mind. I had not thought of that aspect of the digital art, which is you have to be fairly articulate. You have to know how to spell, you have to know what words mean. Yeah, your vocabulary has to be large in order to create good air.

It's very interesting looking the props that people use for certain things and understanding how the machine interprets them, although it's changing still day by day, and they're trying to get it to the point to where it's more where you could just use conversational terms rather than having to, you know, have a list in the certain order and all of that. But it is interesting. You're right. You need to know what words mean. Cotton gin says, What's an adjective?

See, this is what it's come to in this world. It's like people are like words. I don't I don't understand it. Well, the the tongue in cheek answer is it's the word you should never use when you're writing. Right. But that's what grammarly and every other thing tells you. You're absolutely not adjective, but when you're when you're trying to create a description of something that doesn't exist as those are very helpful. Yeah, that's where the machine gets to pick out what it knows.

And it is interesting stuff. I know I'm getting into it a lot later than most, but it is still. Well, you are a late bloomer. Yeah, I really had no reason to mess around with it. It's like, What are you going to do with this? But the more you look into the deepfakes and you see the videos and stuff of Donald Trump falling down like Joe Biden, and you're like, Well, how is this being done? I'm intrigued. I want to know the secret sauce.

Want to know what's normal, You know, what is able to be done. I don't know if there's ever going to be a way to recognize it. It besides having a good bullshit in your fingers. Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. The bottle with 18 fingers that is getting better and better. And I think getting close, you know, I think the reason for that is pretty simple is that in photos, in the images, people always hold their hands together. You can't ever see the number of fingers people have in images.

Well, they're not distorted, but most people aren't holding up five distinct separate fingers on their hands in photos because you're you're kind of told where to put your hands if you're working with professionals or what you know what to do. And if you're not told, they're going to be by your side flat. Right. Or you're not going to see all the fingers. Right. So if you have a program that is looked at literally millions of images and it looks like it, most of those images, if you didn't know

better, most people have two or three fingers. Correct. And when they're even when their hands aren't together, your fingers bend an almost infinite number of ways. Where. Right. Yeah. That's what confuses it because that's like, well, you don't know if it's the aspect you're looking at or if it's the angle or what it is. So I would think there has to be a way to do some kind of self-correction, which is like, this is the average human. They have five, you know, four fingers and a thumb.

Here's how it usually looks. But it's not. But it's not at that level. So there's right now and you know, somebody correct me if I'm wrong here on this, but to my understanding, none of the current aid programs actually map the the what the hell is the word? I'm thinking of it. So that basically to the human body, like the they're not mapping those images like the that wasn't a part of the training is to look at the images and then map onto 3D model. Right.

Representing all the features of a human body. What you see in that photo because if you were I mean, that is kind of a into some extent that will need to be done to do full motion video with just looking at images and they're answering them to for motion. There are some smaller models. Of course, they're not the the massive ones, but there are ones that are very specific to a human. But those those models generally don't include fingers. They include they're very simplistic.

They typically include hips, knees, a bendy spine, and then, you know, your shoulders and elbows and reps. If they don't needs a bendy spine, they don't involve the individual joints, the fingers. I've never seen a model like that. So it's it's interesting. I mean, like it's all coming. Like if it doesn't exist, it's not because it can't be. It's because it hasn't yet. We do have few more people to thank me. This is a long donation segment. Well, I stretched it out, I think, a little bit.

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The guy who did nothing but what the what's actually upload the show. I think this is a great system. Yes. It sounds like you're a Hollywood producer now. I'd like that gig. That's a pretty good gig, huh? I'm the producer of agreeing Old Ben's available on the Erin O'Neill network of podcasts. It sure sounds like it. Yeah, maybe that's the exit strategy. Produce other shows. But as Ryan pointed out during Grumpy Old Bad days, like, well, Gene didn't even put the audio together.

He just said, You are two sides. It's a poster. Yeah, Yeah. Why would I put it together if you want to. I assumed you were going to put it through filters and stuff. Yeah, I did the math. You got both my filter and his copy. Yeah, well, I've just put him through my filter because I was kind of bored that day and decided to see how it is. Mike is a little.

I don't get it, cause you have the same Mike, but he comes through cleaner and I don't know if that's a maybe he well, he does use a channels strip so he's probably got a little e cuing going on the pre the clean feed. But that was, remember Del's comment that was one of the last ones that he, he thought your you kind of sounded like the little boy in the in the audio You're getting better we got you a little AQ today.

You should sound better everybody can let us know Does Gene sound better today. Yeah and if you don't want to listen to what Gene sounds like in the on purpose crappy sounding way that can make me sound, Listen to just two good old boys. But guess where. Yeah, tell me where it sounds better. Which he sounds better. I would love to hear that. Do that. Ben Rhodes also says that he does not eat sushi directly into his microphone, so that could be causing a sound difference. This is true.

We have to look at what good is the microphone Big ball on the front If it's not in order to keep the sushi out of it. It's not a sushi catcher, it's a sushi filter. That's why you have to change those every now. I do. I buy a new one every six months. That makes sense. Makes sense. You do not. I have not been using the big ball on the 320. I'm using the included one here on the of the shore, which is the little boy.

And I had I bought another one of the thin ones from the shore because for a while I couldn't find mine because I put the big ball on it and then I couldn't find the thin one again so I just ordered one. But now I found it. So now I got two. But I try not to eat sushi while podcasting, their truck driver came in with 565. I think that's a monthly and we appreciate that. And then we have a couple of booster grabs.

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I guess I have to look that up. I'm sure that's the beauty now of all these things is that you could just punch that into a website where we're all with AK Yeah, Hey, you are way and then may see with the emphasis of the C Yeah, it's I think what do I a slut or I don't know. Thank you. I believe is what it is. Yeah. Did you says that might be because Dara. No has no engineering real technology background Sir Jean and Sir Ben Rose have those skills Do they, do they really. They do.

Do they do see any proof of this? Are either one of you gainfully employed at the moment? Hey, hey, That is proof right there. It's not proof at all. That's total proof right there. It is not proof. I learned HTML. Baby. That was a language. Yeah, that's not language. I mean, there's a language I learned basic in back in 1982. Was it maybe 82? That sounds about right. I learned. I learned Perl and Python. And I mean, I wouldn't say I'm proficient. We're using digital now.

I mean, I actually took a class at COBOL in high school. So I mean, there's wow, I know in high school, even. Yeah, well, see, in high school, see, they didn't have a while of my high school. It was well they didn't in mine either.

But the class that was required, you know, they had their whole I think it was all Macintosh back then in the computer lab and beautiful brother High School was they had a class in basic but I had already taken basic I had already that was proviso based basically basic. You were so basic. You was you couldn't do basic anymore. Yeah. When it came down to like, well, you have to do this, I talked to the, you know, the brother that was teaching the class.

So that means he was a, you know, a religious man, not a, not a brother. Brother and a is a black dude, right? We had two black dudes, but not this brother. This brother was not a brother. Brother. They just spoke like one. No, he was an old white guy. Oh, but why are you calling him brother? Are you related to him? No, because he was a brother. Christian. Brother? It was a brother in Christ. Yes. Christian brother said a thing. Yes, it's a thing. And I'm like, Well, I've already taken this.

So he just there was two guys in the class that we had the knowledge and they just gave us a test, like on day one and then was just like, Yeah, here, go learn this. And do you guys could do whatever you want during class. So we would sit there and most of the time we were playing games and doing shit. We would just sit on computers that were not facing the nice, but it's like, Well, you already passed.

You got a day in the class because you already know everything he's going to teach for the, for the basic stuff. And that was where it's like, well here COBOL, here's a book. And then it was it had to be Perl, so it had to be Perl. I think in COBOL back then. Perl How old is Perl? It's not that old. I think so. Hmm. The Perl programing language was around forever. When did Perl exist? It first appeared in 1987. So this, you know, was probably about you couldn't have done it.

Well, that was in 87. So unless it was like the guy was right on top of the Yeah. That seems a little would have been quick. So maybe it wasn't Perl. Maybe. I remember the first time I used Perl was probably in 1990. When did that? We'll see. Python didn't appear either. I thought it was one of the languages. Maybe I'm just totally confused. Yeah. Did you your says can you wire up a digital electronic circuit? Well, BUMRAH'S can't. So, I mean, like, I totally get why I used to be able to.

Well, let's find out. Yeah. That is one of the things I took in high school was electronics. You blow anything up? Oh, lots of stuff. Capacitors, mostly. But it was. It was great. Kind of like you said, you could do anything. So the. The guy who taught that class, I fixed his computer for him, and so I basically could just do anything in that class. I had an open, you know, fucked around pass. So that class I remember I usually bring a six pack of cold soda with me. Was it balls at the time?

Were you drinking some balls? Ah, no, it was not balls. And if it would have been anything, it would have been jolt. But now Jolt was hard to find. So I was just drinking coke and I was the. Okay, you're going to find this amazingly hard to believe. I was the only kid in high school. In my high school to have a laptop. Damn, you were entitled. I was not. Was entitled. I was nerdy, I would say, but this was in the day where laptops were, you know, like £10.

And the battery lasted a good 30 minutes. But yeah, the good old days, you had to be plugged in. Yeah, I had, I had my own laptop and it was pretty cool. It was fun. I, I liked electronics. I just, I was originally well, both my parents are electrical engineers, so I was supposed to become one of those. But then you went down a wayward path. I did. I did. Well, think of philosophy. Got in the way. That's a lifelong pursuit there.

After I took that first philosophy class and aced it, I was like, Holy shit, You mean they have a class for bullshitting is actually something you get graded on. Oh, I'm all in. I remember getting in there, man. I'm doing this shit instead. I remember getting a good grade for handing in a blank paper. And one of those classes in college. Yeah, like, it all depends. You have to understand the area you have to understand the assignment.

CSP says a korva, Korva, Korva mock, which is what that allegedly sounds like. And I'll I'll practice the malpractice, my Polish accent. Or he could just send the clip that we could play downloaded. Why you talk to Russian apologists. Oh, look at that. He already got a clip of a mock Why you're not to listen to me. I'd be interested in that same voice. Say, if you support Russia, you're going to help. If you support the loss. So you're going to help doubt it. Well, that's a clip right there.

Right there. It could be a just a cold. Open it. Right. It's beautiful. I think that is a great call up there. Right there. I haven't heard better in a long, long time, except Larry over and out the other show I do call Planet Rage. Yeah. Where they call up Psychic Show was, well, you when you if you're going to say this in the show, I'm going to pull it as an ISO, except now I'm not going to use it as an ISO in this show because that it would be repetitive.

But Larry, he was like, that's just a dick in the ass. And I'm like, okay, that's that's the way I want to start the show. I mean, that, that what that feels like. Larry, please tell us more. Yes, please explain. Yeah. It's you never know what you're going to hear on your favorite podcast if you enjoy them, though, we appreciate when you support them, including everybody. Today, from CSB to C, Brooklyn to their truck driver, J go to Jeannie.

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I have to go through I'm going to try this weekend to do the accounting on the, the podcast. I don't like to do that every few months and because now the deal's been donating, there's, there's money that needs to go to. Yeah. He might be getting damn close to hitting the magic number I know which is unfortunate 33 million. That's the magic number. That's $3 million. Yes. Yes. $1 million. I mean I've got a million satoshis. But that's not quite the same thing. Dollars are preferred Satoshis.

Well, I've got rubles. They've got a million verbal. Oh, well, you bought those when the Russian. I know when they were worth half as much. I talked about this the other day too. I think I've planted rage, but I was on the bike because, you know, I'm trying to get healthy. And one of the things that it spit out at me, if you if you end up dying of a heart attack while you're biking, that's ironic. I'm going to laugh my ass off.

I'm just telling you right now, we'll be like I told you it was going to happen. Son of a bitch. And one of the YouTube videos that it spit out at me was a dude in Russia who was walking through the largest mall in Moscow, which I believe is the largest mall in Mother Russia. And my God, things look good. Yeah, I. I wouldn't know. But every video I've watched their stores look better than theirs. The mall is filled, which is not what you get here. There's most of the anchor stores are gone here.

They're desperate for people to come in and put pickleball courts in or something. And the the whole commercialism is dying. Where in Russia? A few things. I noticed. One at the mall was filled. There was a bunch of people. There was a lot of people shopping the stores that he was pointing out that, well, this used to be a Starbucks. Well, now it's just stars. This used to be KFC. Now it's this used to be. And they're just short. Now it's AFC, Right? And it's the same stuff.

It's the same merchandise. It's just got a different name. Yep. And the thing that I took from this because I watched the whole 25 minutes or whatever, this dude walking through there are very few obese people in Russia. Oh, yeah. No, they all ship out to you and the women. Damn, Russia Seems like the place you want to go if you're looking for women. The mall in Moscow. Uh huh, Highly recommended. Highly recommended. Yeah. Like two years ago.

I would have said Ukraine because Ukraine thinks they're really hot. I've dated a few of them and back. You know, I need to figure out. Well, one of them is I had a dream about her, but yeah, it's the there are way fewer fat people in Russia. It's not like they don't exist, but they there's very few of them. Well, much like in Europe in general lose A lot of you were here when we were growing. There were a lot of you know. No, you're absolutely right. And what's that?

Because we were talking about this and it's like what? We had McDonald's, then we had KFC, we had fast food. So what has regained I think I think a few things, but one is while I maybe eight at McDonald's, when I have a job at McDonald's, when I worked there when I was 14 years old, I don't think that people really ate at McDonald's every day way. A lot of people eat at McDonald's every day, though. No, you're right. That was a it was a special thing, if you were lucky.

It was a once in a while. Oh, we don't feel like cooking. Let's just stop by McDonald's, grab some food, you know, or you might stop at McDonald's. But the only thing you're going to have is ice cream twist. Don't you have the ice machines working it? Well, they used to. They never broke down back when I was working there. Like we never had issues. When you were on top of the ice cream, you knew you wanted to Keep that thing going. You were you were testing it like every 5 minutes.

Take it a little bit out just to make sure the quality was where it should be. No, they just work that work. The machines have been around forever. I mean, one of my friends worked at a in fact, they're all at the slip. So, you know, the wallets. You know, my my involvement with the what? The metal. What I've talked about before. I don't know if you have. Oh, I am pretty sure I have. Well, people that know me have all seen the metal wall at that. I've got a metal wallet.

And I was one of the in fact, I was like the first investor in the company made them and that company was started by Buddy Man that I knew back from like when I was a teenager. You worked at McDonald's together? Oh, he he worked at a yogurt place. And so I used to stop by there and he'd give me free yogurt. Well, now I understand why you friends jeans. Like, I really love the yogurt. It's a it was a mutual relationship. I worked at a pizza place.

I worked with Domino's, and he'd get free pizzas, but you get together after your shift with a bag of pizza, three cheese and frozen yogurt for some pizza bags. Now, we were four and the way that I the best of my recollection, that was like 80 years ago. But the way our friendship started was in in an argument around Star Trek, as they will often do. But obviously the original 1960s Star Trek, you don't even know what the Kobayashi Maru is, you fool. How how do you not even know the Kobayashi?

Where I've I've solved that multiple times. You got to cheat. That's right? Cheating is a valid means of and and there are plenty of games today like eve online for example is a game that takes to heart the concept that cheating is a legitimate part of gameplay as well it should be if you it's a loophole if you could. That's why NASCAR used to be great when it was get away with whatever you can stay within the rules but bad them.

Yeah that that big time it said not to break the rules didn't say anything about bending the rules exactly You stay in that little window which there's at least a question is this legal or not? And now you can check out the other bingo box for talking about video games. Video games? Oh, that's always the favorite one. Where can we buy some spaceships from G? That's the question I get all the time.

But walking down the street, people run into me and they're like, Hey, well, you should put that link right into the pot. Yes, I've seen that before. It it's in every show we've been on for a lot of time. Also, I don't listen to it. I would know. But yeah, well, you're bad. You're bad. The unrelenting show website. No, the craft. No, no, I've done it. The bands keep on continuing their growth. It's funny. How will this The same person is showing all the bands every time.

Yeah. Uh huh. Nothing to see here. But it's like if you want to go and you want to have a nice shopping experience, Moscow is the place to go this morning. Like you're going to get a nasty, nasty message from CSB about. I don't think he hates the Russian moaning. Russia is just like, here's like a four story aquarium, like a Polish. Of course, you know the Russian people. That's how it works. I don't know. You don't behave. Don't be hateful. Everybody love each other.

Peace, love and understanding. What's so funny about that? I don't know exactly. You got anything else? I think any teasers for what's coming up for the rest of this weekend here, going into next week? No, don't play some video games. It's like really dangerous. Have you get I need to do that right now. Actually out of time. I only have two jars of tea left. I have started buying some of the it I mean it's the like just flavored tea. So it's not a black tea or green tea.

It's literally like a peach. But this is like watermelon. There's like a watermelon that's love unity and then there's like a stripe. And what I do is I throw one of these bags into the port, Whatever the container is that I throw the five tips black tea bags into. I throw one of these in and you get this very delightful flavored tea without having to worry about it. Well, just enjoy the flavor, the tea. I like it, but my wife hates the taste of iced tea.

So there's that she can make her own tea. Then you get your own damn container. Yeah Exactly why you got to be fancy. Why do you want a quart is barely enough for you. I know in the day I could go through that easily. I go through, so I. I consume and average about a gallon of beer. There. It explains how you can stay up all night planning. Generally, it's just. Yeah, it's usually about four years. Well, yeah, yeah. I don't stay up all night, but I occasionally will stay up late for sure.

Explains why your dating life is in such disarray. Yeah. I mean, my dating life currently is nonexistent. So that's. I don't know what disarray is, just not there If anybody wants to date Jean, he has no security clearance. Let's just be clear. That's right. No security clearance. Hence, I'm not getting all the hot agent checked. I dare to dream you're.