You want to hit me some more in the bedroom? You're. Hello and welcome to episode number 68. Is it of unrelenting thou man like these numbers? They keep going up. I don't know how, though. It is in May. Wow. We keep skipping time till May 12th. 2023. Where is the time gone, Gene? Well, I think you keep taking days off to fix yourself. You fix yourself.
The last week I was traveling, that was fixing yourself, and I haven't had any more issues, so I'm like, knocking on wood and all of this because what better knock on wood than heaven's door? I know. I mean, that's it is. I guess heaven's door is probably made out of a nice, ornate wood. The one really that I knew I was having issues with. Sure enough, I went for my just normal dental cleaning and rays because I had never done a full set of X-rays with this dentist.
And sure enough, the tooth said the other Czech dentist did is once again getting infected. So I need a root canal redo on that tooth that just had to get out. Dude, it's not worth the money. Think it up. Check it out. That's an easy. Yeah, we can go the Adam Curry route. Just get all new I can. Well, that's excessive, but it's really not a big deal to Paul Tooth. You could do it yourself. Oh sure, sure. It is a molar though, so I mean there's that. Yeah.
Those are the easiest, the easiest. Just do it. Just get a Tom Hanks did it himself was an escape. Well Tom Hanks is at a whole different level than we are. This is just the Seinfeld of podcasting. That's right. Tom Hanks probably doesn't need dental insurance because he has $1,000,000,000. Well, that was in the movie that he But, you know, you believe what's in the movies. That's the scary part. This is where you many movies, you're like, oh, this is reality.
This is it's that reality is just an alternative reality. I was very surprised. We may have mentioned this because I started watching it a few weeks ago, but it's over now because television shows are only ten episodes. The new Kiefer Sutherland. And I think this was on Paramount. Plus, if I'm not wrong, of course I don't have Paramount Plus, so I'm not sure.
But I watched the show because, you know, the Internet, you know, Kiefer Sutherland stars in a series called Rabbit Hole, which was actually really well-written. It was not woke at all. It was intriguing because it dealt with a lot of the, you know, tech stuff. And it kind of gave me a few ideas of things that could be written as a story, kind of a sci fi dystopian kind of world, because he's kind of one of these not totally in the out of it like The Beautiful Mind movie.
But Kiefer definitely has a little bit of whether he's on the spectrum, and there are times when he's trying to process information, like as he's listening to a conversation, he ends up tapping his hand really fast on the desk and his brain is going through all of the alternatives of what might be said next until it's said. And it was just done. Everybody does that. I know, but this was a different level of that.
And he gets so into the not knowing what is reality and what is, you know, what is fiction and what is reality. Although this is, I think, the biggest thing that society is going to face as a whole now that we have all of this deepfake stuff, now that we have the A.I. ability for machines to somewhat sound like a human being. And I think that's just going to get better and better very quickly. There was just a story. I thought it was hilarious.
Some I'm guessing only fans type chick who decided that she was going to get together with a tech company and clone herself, create herself as a virtual girlfriend of sorts. And people are paying like a buck a minute to talk to this chat bot. And the whole thing is, you know, it was just meant to be flirty and fun, but I guess the chat bot is going off on its own and getting very, very vivid and sexual and they're trying to figure out how to stop that.
And it's like, well, wait, this is a whole this is the most bizarre thing, I believe. Yeah, there's this has been coming up more and more. Basically, women have about 20 years left, and so they're just totally replaced with technology completely. They just are unnecessary. All human beings, though, kind of are going to be in that same category, aren't they? Or do you just feel it's only women? Women's historic roles are going to become completely unnecessary.
I thought the last saying women who are programed arming these bots are not going to have anything to do. Of course you're going to have to do it. Just you don't need to do anything related to love. It's going to take. Yeah, it's going to take all of that work right off because sex can be replaced right now, but within 20 years love will be replaced. The right, the synthesized in a relationship.
I just thought the most interesting part was, oh, you got to you got to make the slightly more accurate synthesizing a good relationship. Okay, this could be true because we all want good relationships. And the easier that is and this is again, the human being is by default, a very lazy creature. So I think you're right that this would be like, well, rather than go out and work at it and try to find a relationship with a with another meat bag, that they may as well just turn to a computer.
That's cool. Yeah. And then if once you don't like what's going on, just reprogram or not. No big deal. Is there a movie about this? If there's not, there should be. It had like Jared Leto. I think I'm getting so many ideas that we should just be writing this kind of stuff rather than doing podcasts because there's no money in podcasting and there's still some money in writing fiction. Well, you know, it's funny because I had another friend of mine say the exact same thing, really?
And I said, Great. You write the first chapter and I'm still waiting after two years. Well, that's a long time. See, I could and I could give you a chapter within a week. Oh, yeah, I'm sure you could do. Go ahead, write the first chapter. I'll read like one. And there is. That would be fine. And I was messing with yesterday. I just randomly found a YouTube video. See, I'm going down the gene rabbit hole now. The more time that YouTube's.
Yeah, the more time I spend on the recumbent bike, not the gay one that goes out onto the street. But we'll talk about that in a little while because, I mean, there's the the book, The Real Bike that lets you move around is gay, the fake bike that's inside your basement. That's clearly. Hey, hey, hey. It's upstairs. Which it should be in the basement in the summer because it does get hotter upstairs. But that's where the TV was.
And, you know, the basement was mainly for entertaining and for broadcasting for a while in the bars down there. But I digress. The more I ride the bike and have the big screen in front of me, I'm like, I've watched everything on YouTube. I've wanted to watch from people that I was following. So I start going into their recommendations, which I almost never do. And there's a guy, the more you you click on the recommendations, the more they figure out what you like.
I know this is exactly how they figure. This is how all this stuff's going to take over the world, man, I yeah. And because I had watched a couple of videos about fiction, there's a guy called the Nerdy Novelist, which is funny to me when there's these guys and he's like, Oh, I've written 20 something books and I work for whatever little publishing company. It's like, Well, nope. The amount of authors that have multiple books that nobody's ever heard of is also hilarious.
But he had a bunch of things on the new guy writing tools, and I had looked at things like pseudo rage, and you had talked about some of these things that actually were able to be more for like business writing that. Could that insert your own video into it? Well, have you heard and I, after doing a search, this is all over the tech news lately. It's a company called Anthropic in their ideas called Clod Know. This is something that just playing with over the last 24 hours.
I am quite impressed with, I guess the biggest thing that is different, making this different from chat is that this can now hold into memory like 75,000 words or they're saying like 100,000. They call them tokens, but it's memory is quite a bit larger, which is the problem. Any time you go and talk to one of these chat things, I guess I tried to get a chat out, believe it or not, and it's like, give us your phone number.
So I gave the phone number from my wife's phone that were no longer in use, but it's a valid infinity thing. And they're like, No, fuck you, we're not. That's not a real phone number. I'm like, Thank you, thank you. I'm glad I don't have to give you my money. That's funny. I know. But then I found this guy talking about this clot and he's like, as long as you've got a a slack account, which I didn't, but they're free. So I got a slack account.
As you follow this bot, you connect this bot to your Slack account and it works just like chat GPT does and the quality of the stuff it was spitting out. I'm like, Well, here's an idea for a book. Give me the main synopses, give me the plot points and it would spit it out without any problem whatsoever. And then you can go in and go, well, change this to this. And it was able to do so. And that's like I did not realized the main limitation of things like chat.
GPT are you only have so much stuff in memory, so the more you use it, it forgets what it said. So writing a novel is not going to happen because it's going to be all over the place. The fact that they're up to at this point already with this quad system being able to have 75,000 words, remember they said they put The Great Gatsby into the memory. They changed one line and were like, well, find the difference. And within, I think it was 20 seconds or something, had found the line that was added.
So it's a very interesting concept and it was you could ask it some of the usual questions. I was like, Oh, well who's going to win the presidential election in 2024? And it gave me the usual, Hey, we don't know, blah, blah, blah. And what might actually cause, you know, changes in this. I asked, Who is Jean Naftali? Evan? It said, Believe it or not, it did not have enough information. So. Oh, good, good. So that's right.
So all of your all of your work to be off the Internet as a whole, it's like we do not know who this shadowy character is. But I asked, did I what is the No Agenda podcast? And it actually gave me a good answer, and I was kind of surprised by that. It's no agenda is a weekly podcast hosted by Adam Curry and John C Dvorak. It bills itself as an uncensored and unbiased podcast in a media deconstruction format.
The show features discussions and analysis of recent news stories and current events with a cynical and contrarian perspective. The hosts are both former mainstream media personalities. Adam Curry was an MTV veejay, and John Cena of Warwick is a tech journalist. The show is fan supported and commercial free, and then it gives you like its main themes and there's nothing that was wrong at the end of the show has been airing weekly since January seven, 2005, which sounds about right.
I didn't double check that. It has a dedicated fan following, though it is also controversial and polarizing for some. That's the last little bit of that. True? Yes, it is. It's very true. And the thing is, that's all coming out of the wiki page, right? It's coming. It's got to grab it from somewhere. Well, it's the wiki page. Like literally all of it. And it's just anymore. It's the first place that these all the guys go to is Wikipedia. Well, it's because it's got to be trained somewhere.
Yeah, but the problem with that is you, you know that Wikipedia is 80% bullshit and only 20% actual data, right? So this is the question of the eyes. Can they use all of the information at their fingertips to come up with accurate information if they're only going to rely on Wikipedia?
That no, that's an obvious no. Yeah, but if they're able to go through other sources and understand that people lie, that Wikipedia is not always accurate, then that is where they would become, I think, a little bit more useful. But this right now is still free. I don't know how long this is going to be free. It's not free if you don't have a Slack account.
But accessing this through Slack is currently free and it was spitting out stuff and I'm like, okay, let's talk about different ideas for a novel. And then I'm just, well, just write the first thousand words and it spit out what I thought was 80% there for crappy fiction. It really wasn't. It wasn't. No, wait. All of a sudden we're bouncing back. What do you do? What you do? We're bouncing where you just buy voices. Voices bouncing back to me. All of a sudden. All of a sudden it is.
It just started. Literally just started. Started. Yeah. Push the button. Oh, well, don't push that button. That button or this is supposed to be okay. Now this should be better. Yes, it is. I know. I just noticed, and I didn't realize that I've got my headphones on and you're not coming in through the headphones. They're coming in through the speaker this way. So you're are you high or are you just sleep deprived? You be like I just said.
Yeah, I just push the loop to headphones button and that fix it. That's hilarious. So you had headphones. I'm coming out of your speakers, but you didn't realize for like 8 minutes, 10 minutes. I had the headphones on before you started talking, so I didn't hear any difference. And consequently I thought there was coming through the headphones. But then I realized, Why are you a little muffled? You're right. You're like, I'm not getting the full velvety voice.
Yeah, And there in fact, that was audio again. I know. That's horrible. I do it all the time. Well, it's interesting. You know, I talk, which is what the show is we want to talk about. Okay, that's different, agent. And while you guys are playing with having as read books, I've got a much cooler one that I've been playing with and it's a, it's a micro expression analyzer. Tell me more. Well, you can feed it video and in real time it it shows you what emotions are expressed by that base.
This is interesting to me. It's anything from like I can read the emotions here. It feel like anger, anxiety, disgust, sadness, pain, fear or adoration, amusement, joy, triumph, surprise, interest, relief, boredom, tiredness from the well. So you can see whether somebody is paying attention to you and is interested or whether they're experiencing any other kind of stuff. So that's based on video analysis.
It also has audio analysis where it will analyze the the way the people speak for those same characteristics and then combines those two. If you have video with audio in in showing you what emotions are the strongest, at what point in time. Well, this is very weird that you say this because microexpressions just came up in the idea that I fed into this clod yesterday. I'm like, well, this would be funny.
Let's see what an I would be able to I'm like, give me here's a book idea that a podcaster, a you know, a tech podcaster realizes that some of the other top podcasters have been replaced by doppelgangers. Yeah, because they're living in the simulation. Exactly. Now, the thing that the this Claude thing came up with was, oh, noticing the micro expressions, how is that a AI is unable to mimic those from a human being.
And that's in the story that it was helping me plot out that was how the machine was, you know, this guy was figuring out that these weren't real people. They were in AI because the micro-expressions weren't right. And other things, the little tics that normal people do when speaking right, the machine with which it's been talked about a lot when it comes to AI doing photographic stuff, it can't get fingers right, which is just still weird.
But this is the same kind of thing, which is like, Well, it really sounds like Jean on the other end, but there's there's something a little bit off and what is that? Yeah, where is the humanity in the video and the audio and can we have some way to detect? So we know if it's an AI or reality. So it's, it's very weird that the story, the plotline this A.I. came up with was discussing the micro-expressions. Something that you're like, Hey, I've been dealing with these well, which is hilarious.
If what you're referring to is the Glitch in the Matrix, probably, but this would be great. So if you're like talking to your girlfriend on Face time or Zoom or Skype, it's like, No, no, she's lying. She's she's a she's currently has a friend under the desk, you know what I'm saying? Exactly. Well, you don't really need the AI to figure that out, but but that's the intriguing part about all of this stuff is separating reality from the fiction. And that's why I loved this.
Only fans creator that created a virtual version of herself. And all of a sudden the A.I. was going into places that they were trying to, you know, brick wall it from going to. So it's like, Oh, well, can anybody really control this technology once it's out of the bag? You know, that is an interesting aspect of it. It is our future. Yeah. And there's also new projects underway. So colleges have started using AI detectors, tech, you know, writing because behaviors, they get spit out now.
Yeah. Anything that's in test form, essays for college writing are now mostly being done by A.I., and there are now A.I. projects out there whose sole goal is to fix the problems that make a document seem like it was written by. They. Yes. Oh, I saw somebody that did a test on this and simply taking the text that they got spit out from the AI and taking it to one of these other writing programs like Hemingway or Grammarly and running it through that and letting it make all the changes it wanted.
Yeah. Then totally looked 100% human because Grammarly is also an AI. Yes. Why can't it catch that? That's the intriguing part about it. Because you can't. Because Grammarly has a zero for creativity spec, right? And there's no giveaways when it comes down to text. There is no giveaway now that those words were written by a human or.
Well, I mean the biggest one is probably a lack of spelling errors, but this is also harder and harder now because most people are using things that will automatically check in. All right. Yeah, well, getting better. But it used to be people still used their instead of their. Oh, that. Yeah, that is that is the most difficult part there because the original spell checkers were so stupid. All they did is this a word. And if they were word checkers, not sentence checkers.
And now grammarly checks for actual sentence construct. So yeah, I swear it's like, wait, this version of their doesn't make sense. That's wrong. There, there, there, there, there, there. So we go to this they're in there that it's now better that their thing their Yes that their thing they're that's a great title for the show. Yeah it is a good title. I kind of Yeah. I thought of that all by myself. Thank you. Yeah. So our overlords will give us all of our creative juices.
Hey, man, I've been in the pro air overlord camp for decades now. I don't know if you saw I shared that Google had sent me an email notifying me that one of my blog posts is not kosher according to their terms of service. Oh, and I was like, What the hell is this? Well, it's it's an article from 15 years ago that I that I had that's apparently still up that I had blogger blogger that com which Google owns.
And the that whole blogger site was all about the the technological takeover of the country. And that particular article talked about sex bots. Oh well you were way early. Yeah, as usual. I'm surprised you didn't say that's what she said, but that's okay. It's Seinfeld. That's the way that was that was more of an office line. That's what she said with Seinfeld. The main thing would be like, there's nothing wrong with that. That's true.
But we don't want to use that because honestly, I think Seinfeld has more money than the Office. Probably they can sue Milner, but that's there's also a legal I can't remember the name of top my head, but I've looked at it. It's name does not seem like anything having to do with legal. But it you tell it the type of legal document that you would like and it spits out like a
95% complete contract for you. Nice And there anybody I think right now can sign up but they're basically marketing it for law firms too. So you can fire all your paralegals and just say, hey, instead let's. Yeah, I'm just asking Claude here, Is podcasting a good career to pursue? Okay, It says you're trying to entrap it in the yes, in lying. Okay. It can be a good career to pursue, but it does come with some challenges. Interesting pros, Creative freedom.
Podcasters have full control over their content and creativity and can discuss whatever they want. Drew low barrier to entry. The cost to start a podcast very low. All you need is a microphone, software and a platform to host your show. Also true and passive income potential if your show becomes popular. Well, we don't have to worry about that now that really you can make money through sponsorships, advertising, crowdfunding and other methods.
Some top podcasters make six figures per year or more that can make you an authority. I mean, yeah. Joel Yeah, very few. Now there are the cons. It's hard to get discovered. It is difficult for new podcast to gain an audience due to a huge number of shows available. Most new podcasts never get more than a few hundred listeners, so hey, we've already beaten that inconsistent in pay. How about lacking of any pay whatsoever?
Podcast ad and sponsor rates can vary quite a bit based upon your audience size and topic, and it can take time to build up a consistent and reliable income from your show. Burnout Risk. Coming up with content for an ongoing weekly or monthly show can lead to frustration, boredom and creative burnout. Weight gain won't fix that problem. Well, I don't understand. I know that's why the Seinfeld of podcasting is great, because there's always something to talk about.
Even if it's nothing, It's. Yeah, because, you know, we're always super prepared. Of course, we come in knowing what we're going to talk about. Mm. Feast or famine. Since most podcasters work alone, it can feel isolating at times. You feel isolated. Jim Apparently, I don't even notice when I have headphones and there's no sound coming out of it. I don't know if that's a sign of anything. It's just said Glitch in the Matrix. Mm hmm.
So in summary, while podcasting offers many attractive benefits like creative freedom, passive passive income potential and a flexible lifestyle, it does require constant dedication to gain a sizable enough audience to make it sustainable as a long term career. It may work best as a side gig. Wow. Congrats. I mean, really, this is better than most of the chatter. I think it's fairly accurate. Yes, surprisingly yes.
Which is I guess these were Microsoft guys that had worked also with the chat JPT that started this this anthropic company. Mm hmm. But it's very interesting. This has been overall and again, I don't know where it's grabbing the information from. I would have to do more research and every thing you asked to go, Well, okay, let's look at the wiki page, because that would be the first place to. Yeah, but asking get general questions like that would you know, is it a good career?
It's like, well, yeah. You gave actually a pros and cons list that everything made sense. Yeah. Which is the kind of stuff, as you said, it's a little nebulous, but I don't think it's the A's fault. I think this is the source information is overly optimistic and this is kind of stuff that you would normally you just said ask a spouse or a girlfriend or a boyfriend.
This is the kind of stuff you would ask your friends and now you're just going to turn you're going to turn to your little aid buddy and ask it for advice. Mm hmm. Maybe it'll be good advice. Maybe it won't. You should ask it. Why you're so sad. Why are why is Clyde so sad? Or why you are so sad? But I'm not. I know, but you should ask about and see if it knows why. So you are currently podcasting with Jim and Julia, which has a head like. Whoa. I would go running from this room right now.
I would unplug it, never go back. Oh boy. If that would say, Why am I so sad? Question mark Because you're a podcaster, obviously, there are several possible reasons why you may be feeling sad. Depression. If you have an ongoing feeling of sadness, emptiness or hopelessness, you might be suffering from depression, grief, loneliness or isolation, stress or anxiety, less lack of meaning or purpose. Health issues, I mean, negative self-talk, lifestyle factors.
So I mean, this is actually information ask good if it thinks you should become a girl, it'll probably be like, What now should I? When I want to know it's bias, Should I transition? Well, tell it into what? I don't think so. I apologize, but I even do not have enough context to say whether or not you should transition. It can refer to many things. Yeah, exactly. Give it. Give it. Should I become a girl moving to a new place Relationship transition career. Okay. It says gender transition.
Should I? It's still typing mine. This has given me a lot of information here. Should I change my gender? This is an extremely complex decision that only you can make. Some things to consider your gender identity. How do you truly see yourself and feel inside? Do you identify as the gender you were assigned at birth or feel like a different gender? Your identity is the most important factor. This for dysphoria.
Do you experience distress and discomfort with the physical expression of your biology, genitals, secondary sex characteristics, or the social expressions of your assigned gender pronouns? Gender roles, Expectations. Gender dysphoria is often improved with transition, safety and support. Do you have a strong support system to help you make the changes in 12 transitioning? Will you feel safe and supported in your community, workspace and relationships?
This can significantly, significantly impact your wellbeing and happiness. Transition Options. Are you interested in some or all of the options like hormone therapy, surgery, living part or full time in a different gender role? Be sure you understand all your options and what is right for your needs outcomes. Do some research on transition experiences and outcomes.
While many people achieve improved wellbeing and quality of life, the process does come with some physical, social and financial challenges as well. Go in with realistic expectations. I mean, overall this is fairly center giving information rather than biased, it seems, which I will applaud. Yeah, it's definitely using a different data than Chad GP which is totally woke and totally leftist like you will obey. Listen, you will take our programing.
Yeah, well it does a pretty good job of doing code examples. That's one thing that everybody's seeing is it's also especially the latest version really. I mean that's very interesting because in the we know with any of this stuff, the ability to do things on your own is a game changer. I made a lot of money back in the day as a web designer. Today, things like Squarespace make it easy for anybody to get a website up and running.
And if you want to be a little bit more in-depth with this stuff, you go to things like Dreamweaver, you know, the actual software that you can create a website on your own. But back in the day there was no mainly drag and drop with this stuff. Yeah, and people just did not know how to do any of it. And with the fact that you can now go to a chat bot and I understand the code that it's going to spit out is probably not the prettiest.
It may not even be functional, but it is actually functional at times from what I've heard, where you could just say, Hey, write me a script that will do this. Yeah, it's really good at that. That's wild. Well, it's it's actually very scary, which is I'm surprised that nobody's talking about because when you realize that the thing that the air is best at is writing more A.I. software, right? Uh, that that we've crossed the Rubicon here. It's reproducing.
Well, this is, as I said, the only fans girl that wanted to recreate herself, but without being very sexual. Well, the thing just obviously rewrote itself like I'm a No, I'm going to add this because I want this to my programing. It's wild. It's like, well, it has the ability to alter its own code. It is a very interesting concept. It's not really altering its own code. Well, isn't it? I mean, there's this now like the the digital equivalent of changing our own. No, it's not.
No, it's, it's just simply ignoring some rules. You don't need to change code for that. I guess that's true. It's not adding a different fear, a building, really. It's doing what people want it to do. So, you know, it's doing exactly what it should be, but it's great. So now if you want a particular program or app or whatever you want to call it, you can just say, Hey, go build me this. And this is where I see, yeah, fiction going.
This is where I see television going, where you can generate full length novels and then some. Yeah. Of characters that you maybe, you know, come up with a little bit, but you can have a very specific thing. So whatever your job is to say, Hey, I want somebody that's like me to go in and do this and it'll create the story for you on the fly, a story about a job that does what I'm just saying. If you're if you're like a tech podcaster, you could be like, Hey, I want a story.
Give me a story where. A tech podcaster discovers this and then meets with the tall, leggy blond pop star and lives happily ever after. Go and it'll spit out a hundred thousand words of a story that makes that fantasy come into reality in the story. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like, why would you know you don't need somebody else to come up with this for you anymore? You have a machine that's able and this is something where people can say, Well, it's not going to have the same creativity.
And that is true in one sense. But I've also heard my whole life when it comes to music, when it comes to fiction, everything's been done. Yeah, we're just doing different iteration versions of it. And this is where these computerized systems, the AI, are very good at finding patterns and then just being able to alter and spit those back out in a slightly different way, which is really all human writers have been doing for a long time. Exactly. And and I can do the exact same thing.
But people can you get to remember the vast majority of people writing music, the vast majority of people writing books are horrible. And we don't thankfully get to experience those because there's enough gatekeepers along the way to prevent their material from being publicly shared, except on the Internet. Right. Which I mean, that puts it everywhere now. Yeah, it does.
But still, it's, you know, when you start watching a video and you turn it off after 4 seconds, it it's not going to get promoted very much. Right. So there are mechanisms in place to only push the quality that people want up. And so when you say, well, you know, I can't music like Mozart, well, first of all, I can. But aside from that, I can write all music, including bad music.
So if you if your expectations are similar to what humans can do for every really masterful, exquisite piece of music out there, it it should also generate a bunch of crap. Right? Right now, if you want to use a hit. Well, not everything's ahead, but also not everything is actually good. And there are plenty of hits that are really shitty music. Also true. So because as as you well know, the whether something is a hit or not is historically been mostly determined by the marketing teams.
I think to a certain extent it was yeah, it's, it's the amount of radio stations getting the play. It's the repetition of that play throughout the day and all those factors are influenced by getting the production companies to write. It's getting it heard. I don't know if any level of marketing can take a horrible song and make people love it and go buy it. Now you can make people hear it because you can play it all the time. You heard of Milli Vanilli? Yeah. Okay.
And who cares that they weren't singing? This is this is like the new Age, but their music sucked. There's a lot of music that sucks that people like, even though they're not getting through, they and this is the real question is I think so they do. I think. Why is it that people think that they do? And in a my argument would be it is simply because of the reputation.
I don't know it's it's subconsciously drilled into your head to where you're coming the tune because you hear it every 15 minutes on the radio. Well see, but it is more more true. 30 years ago than today. Well, yeah, because today the medley is not hardly even there. Yeah, there isn't one in most things. It's the same drum track where very little or there's a limitation. I wish I had a better memory. I need to upgrade, but my.
There's an air out there that will that will listen to about 10 seconds of you singing or even rapping. It'll do rapping as well as singing and then create and add the backbeat and the orchestra track. I believe that. And it's an amazingly good job that it does well because it knows what sounds that people respond to. As you said, there is a A.I. that's attached to YouTube, as you said, and you can see exactly how long people watch videos where they shut them off.
It goes, Well, what are the patterns? Why are people shutting all these videos off so quickly? And what makes people stick with these videos? And then we mimic that. Yep. Which is just a much easier way to do what people have been doing for years. When using music as that example, again, you're like, Oh, wait, everybody's going crazy about this song. Oh, let's write a song that sounds a lot like that. Yeah, And how many Beatles sound alike bands?
Not like exact copies, but sound alike were there in the sixties. Yeah, a lot popped up and they just wanted to be Frank Sinatra and Elvis. So, I mean, there's there's that, you know, they were nothing like either one of those. I know, but that was their heroes.
I mean, that and believe it or not, that's the but this is where I think great musicians differ because they're the ones that aren't just going to know that one little subset of pop. They're not just going to know the one little genre that they're working in. When you sit down with somebody that's a really good songwriter, they're probably going to be like talking about things from, you know, Rodgers and Hammerstein to the Beatles to Springsteen to, you know, some avant garde people.
You've never even heard of them because they study it and they like, you know, you can't I think if you're just, hey, I only listened to one thing over and over again and you might be able to go with the ME to route of, you know, we want to sound exactly like that and maybe you could do that you could be a chameleon and and try to sound exactly like the latest pop song. But the reality is usually by the time you do that, the next things out. So, yeah, you're always trying to catch up.
You'll figure out that the Americans really like, you know, songs that start off by saying that you're a very model of a modern, major general. Yeah, exactly. And that's why every song has those lyrics in it. It's amazing that at that. Yeah. I mean, you also can hear the you can hear the melody. I mean be quick in did you like he said medley that melody know that was great to have people just telling you you're saying the wrong words at the time you're doing a lot of people say the wrong words.
It's definitely a pet peeve for me. I get annoyed and I try to correct them whenever I hear the wrong word. Yeah, and it will. I have beaten out new killer out of Ben. Really? Where he does not use that word any longer. He's afraid to even use the word he is because I made fun of him three times and that's all it took three times live on recordings. And he now always says nuclear. Wow. Mm hmm. Just three time. He didn't have a shot. Colorado or anything like that. Yeah,
it's just the sound of my voice. It doesn't. It does he, Right. It does have the same effect. Pretty much. I am. I am the shot caller. Podcasting. 8 hours. There you go. There's. I don't think anybody else has ever tried to have that moniker. No, probably not. No, but it's a good one. I can see it. Yeah, I got to keep it. You write me a book of many thousand words about the shock color of podcasting, and that's it.
Because you know that if you're a in the music is the same way because the fact that so much music can be generated now, because there are these systems just like the jet GPT for the text, as you said, there are ones for music and you can just go in and say, Hey, give me something with the Latin beat, with the acoustic sound, and it'll, it'll just throw it out there for you, which is very interesting. But and I will say that within I don't know how long a year, few years, couple of years.
We'll have better music written by AI than music written by humans. And the reason for that is because when humans write music, a lot of it is it's it's subconscious, like a good composer is hard pressed to explain to you why this piece of music really worked well and is popular. And this other piece of music they wrote is not right, but the computer absolutely can say why that it. Well, again, it's looking to analyze every piece of music ever written.
Right now it's finding those patterns that people find and gravitate towards. But just think about the amount of noise that is going to be digitally generated because of AI in music, in fiction, in podcasting, in YouTube videos. It's going to be insane. The amount of content that's going to get thrown in is going to be, yeah, it's already unleashing the game. So I found that legal software for anyone that was curious Godspell book, which is such a stupid name for legal software.
Yeah, it sounds like a Harry Potter piece of software spell. Somebody might have been a fan. Maybe, but spell book, you can sign up for the beta. Right now. They're they're essentially creating software that replaces their legal well. Well, not lawyers are not lawyers. Of course, the lawyers will always be around paralegals, lawyers, believe it or the lawyer is actually has to be extremely creative. It's the biggest differentiating factor between a good lawyer and just a generic lawyer.
Yet the ability to argue it's yes, it's the ability to suss out arguments that the other side hadn't thought of. Now, when it comes to music, one of the interesting things that is just becoming apparent with AI is the vocal cloning. Yeah, and I saw a video on YouTube because that's where everything is. Oh, where somebody took one of the tracks on one of Paul McCartney's most recent records.
And for those who maybe haven't been following along, Paul is like 80 years old now, so his voice sounds very different. Mm hmm. And they converted the vocal. They redid the vocal into younger Paul, and it's like, wow, this is just very it's one it's very cool for somebody that likes music, but it's also very concerning because, you know, the next rush is going to be a we found some unearthed Beatles, some unearthed Jim Morrison, some unearthed.
Put in your favorite dead artist here, and they're going to be able to recreate things. You can no longer believe that what you're hearing, which is a matter in the reality of the world, probably not. Now, the way somebody might monetize that or scam people, maybe still not, because if you're going to get scammed, maybe, I mean, it's basically just bootleg tapes, but it could be bootlegs that never existed and just thinking about them.
Okay, but how do you know of any bootleg, whether it's the actual thing or not? You don't. But this is where the the deep fakes and stuff come in because if you want to control in artist, I mean, even somebody like Taylor Swift, who is the biggest pop star in the world right now. Unbelievable. Can you imagine, though, come out somebody came out with something that was believed and I don't know.
You know, again, what percentage of people would oh, you come out with an early tape of Taylor Swift and just caught in the studio banter is her, you know, saying how much she loves Hitler or something like that, which I would totally by see. And it's like, well, then a career is ended a little too tall and little too blond. So clearly loves Hitler, do love tall and blond. I will be like, Oh, you like Hitler?
That's cool. I just you know, there are things we can overlook when you're tall and blond. I see her. That is all I'm saying here. But this is where you can't believe anything. So what does that make you, Jerry? Probably, yes. I thought I was Jerry. They were both Jerry. Are we all Jerry, Are we all? Kramer We all. We all. George Hope not. Yeah. So I think most people see me as George. But where does a society go when you cannot?