You've been trying to get off my show for a while yet. At low end. Welcome to episode number 61 of Unrelenting February 24th, 2023. I am Darren O'Neal and I am coming to you live from just outside of Iraq, which is good because we're like the number one murder city in the United States now. Yes, we got the number one. We're celebrating that now. What can you do? How many murders do you got? None. We got plenty, man. To me, we're like the second biggest murder capital city of Texas or something.
They're trying to get there. Yeah. New Orleans and Chicago, though, are the ones that have really been trying hard. And it's funny because I think both of those are Democratic controlled places. Those. Austin Yeah, that's true. We can do just as bad. Well, if you keep trying, if you really put your minds to it, you can get just as bad as Chirac last year. We have 88. I know it's not nearly enough compared to you guys. No, I mean, we get that in a good weekend. But nobody cares.
Nobody talks about it. That's always the weirdness of it. And I get it. Any person's life that is taken from them is bad, you know, unless it's a black person killing another black person in Chicago. And then don't talk about we have better and better gun laws because, you know, the criminals are the ones that respect the law. That's right. They obey all the gun laws. It's absolute insanity. But the big news is around the the Ukraine war and the U.N., which is really a balanced organization.
Is that is that a sexist thing to say, that they're a ball less organization? I think that's an accurate thing to say. That came out with a resolution. And the most interesting thing about the resolution wasn't the the few, the proud, the six countries that sided with Russia, which, you know, Belarus was I mean, that's pretty much Russia anyway. And I think it was like Venezuela. I mean, there was a few that you're like, Yeah, I get it.
But a lot of people are upset that China and India abstained from voting. It's like, wow, China, of course, is like, would you guys just get this cleared up because we want to sell more cheap Chinese shit all over the world and you guys are kind of screwing with that right now. Yeah, I think I think China is abstaining. So they do it for the same reason, which is that they do business with both sides quite a bit. And they need that revenue. Well, yeah. And why take sides really.
Does it ever really help? They don't see a point to killing their economies the way that the U.S. and Europe are doing. Which is really weird. But then again, Joe Biden doesn't seem to know really what he's doing. You have take care of the problems at home. You have a toxic train derail and it takes three weeks to get anybody from the government there. But Joe, he can go over to Ukraine. Well, that's more important.
What a photo op, though, you know, and they're playing this off like Joey got big balls. He is the first president ever to go into a war zone without U.S. military on the ground. Well, I can tell you, there's a lot of U.S. military in the air. Yeah. First of all, there's a lot of military on the ground, too. Yes. Which which also they they called Russia and asked for permission to visit. Well, it was letting them know that he was going to be there.
Okay. That's not really what happened. But okay. Well, the intriguing thing is the story that's been played out over the last year by a lot of people is that Vladimir Putin is so off his rocker that he is so enraged that he has gone over the edge into madness and you can't even calculate what he's going to do. He could do. Anything. And that's right. Yeah. But we let him know that Joey was coming, so he didn't accidentally blow Joey out of the sky or the rails or whoever he was coming in.
So if you go and tell somebody that the president of the United States is coming, this this is very interesting to me because it says you trust that person. Bigly. Because you're like, hey, we just we just want to let you know if you don't want an international incident. But it's like we thought that's exactly what we've been told for the last year that Putin wanted. So giving him that intel that the president of the United States is entering the country that they're at war with was weird to me.
Yeah. Very weird. How else can you explain that? Except that this is all just a big psyop. Yeah, I'm getting sick of that term. It's been way overused. Of course, because that's what they do when they talk about things. Yeah. And so it is what it is. That's the best way to explain it. That's. That's really better than to say, Yeah. It really is. Because what you see is exactly what it is, which is a a funding of the military industrial complex through taxation.
Yeah. We have to get rid of a lot of that old stuff. Yeah. And the justification for that is something that you can't dispute, which is like, oh well we're helping this country for a big bad Russia and you know, the we need to send weapons and I think we're over 100 billion. I think we're 110 billion, though, that's been spent on Ukraine. Most of that not all, but most of that has been spent via Amtrak or US companies. And the parts that came in cash just seem to disappear very fast.
Well, are you tired of hearing that Ukraine is a sovereign nation that was attacked? Because I find that interesting as well, being that it wasn't that long ago they were a part of the other country. Yeah. This isn't like we're going after Poland or any of the other European nations. I find that to be a little bit different. And the number and this is something I have heard reported nowhere else, and if anybody else has heard this anywhere else, let me know. But I had no agenda yesterday.
They mentioned where the refugees from Ukraine were going and the country that got the largest number of Ukrainian refugees was Russia. Yeah. It's like, wait a minute. So this is just to put this into some kind of perspective. This is like the United States and Canada going to war and Canada coming in and being like, well, we're going to take over Wisconsin because we used to own it or whatever.
Michigan, Michigan, even better at the Michigan reacts in mass, decide that they're all going to migrate quickly to Canada. Right. Well, it seems to me that that would be a strong indicator of where the local populations. Well. That's because most people in this country don't know that Ukraine has been under occupation since 2014. And the people of Ukraine don't agree with the people that occupied it. And so naturally, if there's a war there, where are you going to go?
You're going to go to the safest place you can, which is going to be Russia. Right? It's like our country sucks. So we're going there. Yeah. If if there was a war prior to 2014, nobody would be blinking or thinking twice that Ukrainians would be moving from Ukraine to Russia to be safe. But somehow in 2014, when there was a coup instigated and that was partly successful, I mean, it was successful enough to take over the capital.
It wasn't successful enough to take over the entire country that somehow everybody in Ukraine became a Nazi. That doesn't make sense. Most people are not Nazis there. The coup is organized by Nazis and funded by the US. And so, yeah, I mean, like any other coup, once that happens, once it's successful, to the degree that it takes over the capital, the average person on the street is going to keep going to work, keep going to the grocery store and giving lip service to the new government.
Because what do you want to be the guy that stands out and then gets killed for it? No, we already saw that. And again, Americans don't know this. So it's not even a matter of forgiving. It's like nobody give a shit. But shortly after that happened, there was a protest in Odessa, of all places, that there was an anti coup movement and protest, and the Nazis did what Nazis do best. They they managed to push people into a building.
The protesters essentially gave them no escape route except to go into this building, boarded up and set it on fire and just burn everybody alive. It doesn't. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, again, I don't remember the name of the protest, but it was definitely in this. And if you want to look it up, I'm sure you can Google yourself. Odessa, It was 100 plus people that were burned to death there, and it happened shortly after the 2014 colored revolution that happened there.
Yeah, there's a lot of things that people don't want to talk about. Everything is better understood in context, and you have to know the history of things to understand the context, because it's really not a simple thing. It never is where all we're going to portray one side as one thing and the other is the other. And it's clear, white and black, it never is when it comes to war. Then you have the US president showing up on the ground, which I want to know if there were.
That was just really good green screens, if this was a set somewhere else, because it just seemed and I know that was the other thing discussed on no Agenda. This is why you have to look at everything now, especially in the deep fake world. Was this even a legitimate was this happening at the time You're seeing it, you're hearing air raid sirens going on while they're walking. Well, was that true? Did that happen? I mean, who knows?
This could have been Joe Biden there two years ago, before he was even president. Walking down the streets would silence. How would we know when that video was from or it could all just be a a glorified deepfake because now the deepfakes are getting better and better and better. And you're seeing a lot of these camera angles from like behind buildings and there's some really bizarre kind of stuff. But I was very surprised that you would have them just walking down the street.
I mean, Joe Biden won't walk down the street in most cities here in the United States. Definitely not in Chicago. No, definitely no. Come here for the race. In July of this year, Joey, and walked down the street and see how things go. So it is. Yeah. A lot of this stuff done in order to push a narrative, in order to get you to feel one way or the other. And it's like, Oh, he is just so brave.
And it was funny when you then looked at the coverage of the visits presidents have made to dangerous places and Donald Trump walking over the border. Granted, he didn't go miles and miles, but he walked over the border into North Korea. That was just that was erased from our history, I guess. Yeah, well, that was just the North Koreans tricking the stupid president of the United States. I think I would threaten them. Right? Yeah. This again. You can't believe anything that you see or hear.
And I really do believe this is going to lead to massive amounts of problems. I think it's for the mental well-being of the people living in this time. It is not good for their mental health because they're going to be pushed in all sorts of different directions. There was a study of some sort which talked about teenage girls who have body issues because they're on the Internet. And of course they're going to have body issues because they're on the Internet.
When you and I were growing up and we're in grade school, in high school, well, you only really compared yourself to the people you knew. Now, kids growing up have millions of kids they're seeing on the Internet. There's you know, it's like this, of course, the the pretty girls are rising to the top because that's what more people want to see them, you know, And this is because of how much Internet you consume.
But also consuming the news, I believe, is completely unhealthy because 100 years ago, if something didn't happen within like 20, 30 miles of your house, you probably didn't care it was going on. Now people are worried about everything. Yeah, well, I think there's certain things you've cared about, but I think the biggest thing is you were not comparing yourself in any means to people that are using technology to be better, right? Oh, yeah.
Whether whether it's, you know, if I, if I compared how I played video games in the eighties to others playing video games near you, I was comparing myself to my my friend which basically a subgroup of people in my school who did play video games and you know, it's not like there wasn't e-sports. You weren't you weren't comparing your video game play to like professionals making millions of dollars a year. Right?
And it's same thing, I'm sure, for, you know, things outside of video games, like you said, for girls comparing beauty, it would have been comparing it to either something in magazines which would have been girls much older than them, or it would be to people that you would see, you know, regularly and of course, on television. But really even on television, like there were there were beauty trends. But you know, that these these were not hard to achieve.
Beauty standards because I remember back in in like would have been the mid eighties, you know, that the clothes trend for girls was driven by Madonna, which was basically garage sale clothing. Right? Right. Yeah. I mean, anybody can do that. That wasn't exactly complicated makeup either. Yeah, Your eyes tended to be a little little darker with the shadows, but for the most part, it was pretty simple.
Well, and there were a lot, especially in the news industry, a lot of people, both male and female, that when they made the switch to high def, didn't like it because all of a sudden people were like, Whoa. Hmm. You get well, you're getting way more depth than we need with with these folks. So there was a song. I played it before we went Live Here and the Mighty No Agenda stream off the latest Steel Panther release.
And they're a band that's, you know, a poking fun at the eighties hair bands and they have a lot of, you know, very interesting lyrics that they will go with. And I think it was the first song on the latest album is Why Can't You Look Like the Girl on your Instagram? You know, that's you know, it's like, that's it. Girls on their Instagram, you see them in real life and you're like, Wait a minute, who are you? You don't look like you are on your Instagram.
It's like, Yes, because it's all alike. It's it's either filters, it's either lighting, it is posing in exactly the right way. There's a lot of tricks that can be used. You're like, well, why? When you see, you know, back in the day when you had Playboy before they ruined the whole concept of. Men around the world. Yes. Yeah. You would see a playmate in real life and you'd be like, Oh, well, she's a solid seven, but in the magazine she's a ten. Yeah. It's tricking you, right?
That that's absolutely correct. There. There is literally there's 110 per million in real life. There's about 300 women that are actual tans in the US currently. And Jean is looking for all of them. And I've met most of them. They've restrained, most have restraining orders, so it's easy to keep track of them. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. And, and that's the thing is I think most men and this is something women do understand is men are not looking for ten, ten, ten as something that you want to make a little recording of in your imagination or for your imagination, I should say. You can report it in real life, but you're going to play it back in your imagination. But do you know the level of stress and anticipation that comes with actually dating of them? Are you kidding? Or God forbid, marrying it then?
Yeah, they don't want that. And stress t don't want that shit, man. That's not a good place to go, though. Yeah. You want a knife? You know, seven sevens about the size you want to go for every they contact. You don't want to reach too high.
There was somebody that posted that and I don't know what this photo was from on no agenda social earlier today I'm scrolling down but that's it's probably so far down I'm never going to find it but it was of the Ukrainian army but the main person in the focus was a really hot woman. Well, Ukrainian women are just really hot in general. Always have been. I've dated a few. Oh, sure. But this is like if you want to talk about the number one way of marketing this war, I'm like.
Well, I mean, not really, because you're basically saying, yes, we're going to throw away our beautiful women. Which is a bad thing. Really come to Ukraine data. Soldier Yeah, there they date a dead soldier or a maimed soldier. You know, it's fun. If they're actually real soldiers. That's the question, too, because you never know where these photographs are. I have I have seen tons of the girls of the Israeli army photos.
And there is definitely I will say, actually, you take like a seven or an eight. This is just pure producer mode, ladies. And you give them a machine gun. It's like a solid 11 at that point. In fact, there is a photo that was floating around and I think I may have both the technology and social if I didn't say, well, it was floating around Twitter, but it was a a mugshot photo of an extremely beautiful young lady, you know, probably like 20 ish.
And and the the she was convicted for, I think, armed robbery. But then there was a whole bunch of gun related stuff like possession of unlicensed machine guns and, you know, all all kinds of things that make, you know, if she wasn't going to prison, make a guy go, well, that's kind of hot. Yeah. Girl, you would never step out on, though. Yeah. Yeah, right. Well, why would you want to? Well, why would you want to come out? Especially because of the machine gun part.
Yeah. So consequently, there's a there definitely is a way to accessorize yourself that most men, not all, you know, not like California beaters, but most men would certainly feel is adding to the to the kind of so ridiculous but the one through ten number for you uh, which is. Oh, by the way, can I interrupt the sexist comments to say that there was some feedback about the extreme sexism going on in the beginning of the last episode we did.
So this seems to be a trend where you keep bringing up topics that just make us look like complete sexist pigs. Which was the topic on the last one that was sexist. The prime age of women oh is about the same as a cut of beef. Yeah. Oh, is that what you said? That was the topic. That was the chapter that you have the Epilog chapter with. I don't do chapters. Who's doing chapters? Somebody. Somebody is doing them for you. Well, there was a lot of discussion about.
Well, no, it to be fair, there was no talk about what the reality of that was. Everybody just immediately came down and convicted Don Lemon of being a sexist. Right. Even though I have yet to find even one person that can explain to me how his statement was sexist and Bill O'Reilly, who I normally like, did like a whole episode trashing Don Lemon. And I sent him a letter like, you're absolutely wrong. Here's the exact quote. And of course, Bill says, if I'm wrong, email me.
Well, you didn't read that email. Believe it or not. I'm I can't believe it. I don't think he I think he just does the minimum amount of work possible to get paid. Welcome to podcasting one on one kids. But it's like nobody can explain them. Oh, my emails. Well, that's because you only get like one a day. Less than that. C It's even better. You got the greatest filtering system going on, but I can't understand how it was sexist and I still don't and nobody's been able to. I get it.
I understand dislike Don can. Explain to you how it's sexist. I mean, that's easy enough. Because it was a man saying it about a. Man talking about women. That's sexism right there. If I were Don Lemon, what I would do at this point when I'm sitting between those two broads on CNN on the morning show. Yeah. If they go, hey, what do you think about that, Don? If it's not a story about a 58 year old gay black man, I'd be like, I can't comment on that.
I mean, I think there's more creative ways to come back and that I think he should have said, well, what do you girls think is the prime of a gay man's life? Yes. Whether a man put them on the spot, have them answer them, they giggle about it and go, well, I don't know than you tell us. It's like, oh, okay, well, then why are you asking me about women? Yes. When do what? What do you think anybody is in their prime? You know, that is the question. And it's a it's a multifaceted thing.
It's whenever they're, you know, most ready for consumption, I guess. It is a few different things that they seem to look at. And that is, well, when are you in your physical prime, when are you in your mental prime. Mhm. And I think everybody understands that once you hit a certain age you're on the downward slide, things don't continue to get better and that's why you always see, you know whether you know when you lose your expectancy you know. Well most people aren't living. Over two.
Over 100 at this point. I think most people I think the average age of dying is probably. What, 80. 70? It's less than that, you know. Somewhere in that range. In the seventies. So when you hit 51 years old, like Nikki Haley is, you're closer to the end than you are the beginning, which you pretty much logically would say you're most likely past your prime ages. And again, that doesn't mean you can't do the job. Make Meghan please logic to explain this said did you don't need logic.
Logic. I like logic though. It's a definition. There's there is no logic to use here. The prime is defined as a a constant. And that constant is different for men and women because different things historically have been desirable of men and women. For women, your prime cannot be cast your childbearing age because that is the main distinctive attribute of a woman. What is it then? You can have children even if you look like, right? Well, even if we go and predict.
And regardless of how smart you may or may not be is when you no longer can have children, you're just a little bit closer to being a man. In ad search income. Well, there's no other way to talk about this topic, right? I mean, it's like, look, anyone that's going to take offense, they're probably not listening to the show anyway because of last episode, because. It was all the more before. That.
But if you separate this, even if you only go to mental as far as what you're looking at, forget physical, forget happiness, forget everything out to go only their mental acuity. 35. Right. You are not in your prime now when you're hitting your fifties. So we're way beyond our primes, that's for sure. And you can't just ignore that because you're like, Oh, that's sexist.
Megan Kelly did the same thing that Patricia Heaton did, although Megan Kelly did it on her show instead of on Twitter, which was went down a list like. Oh, she has a show. Yeah. Bacon Kelly. Who the hell would watch. Her? I don't know. Adam Curry went out of the show, so, I mean, there you go. He was on. So that kind of so it's a YouTube show. Got it. So it's I think, serious. I think it's a serious radio show that is also the worst. Has the video portion that's on wherever.
I mean and I'm curious during the anybody show. Oh, he would at your show. So you're absolutely right. You've finally proven he has hit his bottom. Poor Adam Curry, you know, support him. I mean, if you can't if this wasn't a cry for help, I don't know what was going on. My show is a cry for help. Yes, That's pretty sure. I mean, it is for me. I'm like, please support your podcast. I know you've been trying to get off my show for a while.
And Megan Kelly was doing the same thing in, oh, Nancy Pelosi started her political career at this age, I guess she was baffled by this poll. I would love to hear what she said about that because she started that at 18. I'm telling you, she. When she bang John Kennedy. There you go. I have photos. He. Wow. Yeah. Now that is what you should be publishing on that. No agenda. Social. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Some of us want to live a little longer. You want to avoid those hot tubs.
But that was the, you know, the concept of all these women probably. I think you mentioned Margaret Thatcher, if I'm remembering correctly, but she went down the list and it's like, again, Don Lemon did not just come out and say that Nikki Haley's past their prime. It was in relation to the fact that Nikki Haley was talking about other people being past their prime. And he said be careful using terminology that might come back to bite you. Wasn't exactly was basically what his comment was.
So the fact that so many people covered it and it's still being talked about, it's like and the fact that CNN sent him to like reeducation training. Or whatever it is, it's nice to see them getting their own just reserved. Yeah, I'm I'm happy about that. But well, CNN is definitely pushing. Yeah. Let's talk about what is the appropriate age for a politician, a senior level politician like president, regardless of sex. But yes, which is what this should have gone into, should have been.
I think there there is a component of physical health that has to go into that. You don't want your president having physical issues. Like Joe Biden falling up the stairs of the plane. Or sleeping in a wheelchair for most of their term. That's not a good thing. We don't know even that with FDR. I don't mind that if he's mentally is one of the. Worst presidents we've ever had. Yeah, but he knew what he was doing that he didn't. That's why he's one of the worst presidents.
I don't really think he did. I think he knew what he was doing. WOODWARD Woodrow Wilson was even worse and he wasn't in a wheelchair, so. He was not worse off them. Not at all. I think so. Now. Now that's just for the history books, but that's incorrect. Well, everybody read the Sir Gene history book. Yeah, well, yeah, it's actually really easy.
All you have to do is actually just read the newspapers of that local time, and then you get a sense for what people actually thought, not what the next the next group in power decided to write. History of the news media lies. So there's some small physical component, probably not more than 10%, I would say. If there. Isn't, there is an intellectual component, a big one, which, you know, people like George Bush were made fun of for not having a whole lot of.
Well, because he spoke in that Texas kind of way. I think George Bush was actually smarter than most people gave him credit for it, but he only. Sounded dumber than he was. But I don't know that he was particularly smart. I don't think he was a genius in any way, shape or form. Biden's going to give them a run for his money big time. Which is sad. At a much, but yeah, yeah, exactly. But then you also have and by the way I think mental crime is is somewhere between 30 and 35.
That's when you're you can have fast decision making abilities of youth combined with a certain degree of wisdom gained through age. Except you don't have a ton of wisdom yet. A 35 No, you're not. You're not peaking out on wisdom. So if you want to look at the wisdom as the biggest component of provocation of a president, then I think you would be looking at early fifties. Right? Because you're saying we're adding points for having wisdom.
So even though your mental acuity, you may be slowing down a little bit, the wisdom is more important up to a certain age. Up to a certain age at which the the physical and mental acuity is going down, sort of negate the increase in wisdom between like, let's say, between 55 and 65. I think you have a bigger decrease in physical and mental with a small increase in wisdom. And that by small I mean, comparatively speaking.
So you're you're basically adding an additional 20% of your life during that decade. Right? You're dropping quicker with your acuity than you are gaining wisdom.
Yeah. So I would say then you if you're going to do it just based on the the characteristics we just describe, you kind of looking at somebody being a president between their late forties and late fifties, like that's the band that ideally you want to find somebody in, not somebody much younger or younger at all for that matter, nor somebody that much older than that. And there are always going to be outliers, which I think needs to be understood.
And this is why I. Think this Ron DeSantis right now. Ron DeSantis just guessing it would be in his early fifties. Though he is looks like he's in as late forties. Clothes, early fifties, late forties. Born in 78. Okay so eight years younger than I am. Yeah. So that makes him 44 slightly too young to be president given their criteria. But you know in two years he'll be right in that mode. Exactly. In two years there'll be the the earliest the bit of the ideal range whereas Trump will be 108.
Seems like it. But he's still a vibrant guy at that age, which I think this is where Nikki Haley really shoved her foot into her mouth by saying she wanted to go in and make a law that said any politician over 75 has to take a mental acuity test. Why? Yeah, what an age on this. Yeah, I would I would modify that. Yeah. I would say every politician should take the mental test. Yes, but. But he can't disqualify you is the thing.
The only thing that that test can do and it should be done by candidates, not winners of the race. Right. Is to provide an additional data point to the electorate. Yeah. And if they want to elect a brain dead one miles more. Run like the guys in in Pennsylvania seem to like to do. Then they have that right to do it. Yeah. I mean, you can have somebody representing you that is a complete moron. If that's who you vote for, you get what you deserve.
But it shouldn't be a surprise that post-election. Right, that now he took a mental acuity test and he's got the functioning skills of a third grader. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that's absolutely right. So and then I personally and I think this is for probably more people would disagree with me I would just say 64. I don't want to have anybody actually running for office who is over 65.
Again, I think there are outliers, including Donald Trump running the last time nothing yet after a career and he's still mentally competent. He knows what he's doing. I would not put an age on it. Yeah, well, I well, that's the way I said most people would disagree with me for sure, but I think 65 would be appropriate. Like, let's put it this way, I, I have a very hard time envisioning people that are over 65 that I've ever known.
And remember, I'm over 100 myself that that I can think of that would be better presidents than that same person in their fifties or sixties. I would agree with that. Like a Trump in his fifties, would have done so much more than a Trump in his 75th. And the interesting thing about the whole Don Lemon thing with Nikki Haley is the conversation we're having right now is what should have been exploded in the United States, talking about those comments, not what was taken away, which was he.
Then you go back this I mean, that was that was didn't really help anybody. I think this is a valid topic for people to be discussing in this column. And no, and they call them a woman hating gay man or something maybe. Yeah. Which I mean. Some if some term like that. Gay guys aren't really interested in women there's that. I mean some are just not sexually and some of them like to hang out with women. I think that's a stereotype, but I don't think that's a completely accurate stereotype.
But it is an interesting point of view of what is past their prime. I mean. The one that what it means. Well, I'm sure you do, and I'm sure they love hanging out with you. I get along great with lesbians, man. Well, I mean, you dress the same way. We dress the same, and we have the same points of view on a lot of things. Yeah. There you go. I mean, that should be your mirror for your A good old boys podcast. Should do a lesbian mirror. Yes, exactly. That would be hilarious. Yes.
Hey, we just crossed over 2500 apps or downloads on that show. Now, is that that's. Just a milestone. Let's get combined with what, 2500 shows. So one person for each show of. The shows, the. Math is very hard to to figure out. Uh, but this is the conversation that I think the world should have been having. Mm hmm. But nobody is. And that's basically the United States in a nutshell right now, is that things are just so divided that we can't have a rational conversation about anything.
And I just did. What we did at the world as a in the country, as a generality, not and I think more important than age would be term limits when it comes to people serving in the Senate and house. Yeah, every word term limits everywhere I've been a big advocate of that. I literally wrote a paper on that in high school saying talking about power, having term limits would have solved some of the problems we were experiencing at the time.
And my God, I've lived my whole life now, and that's in term limits, implemented. Because career politicians never lead to anything good. Yep. It is not public service. If it's your whole life and you're getting more money than the average citizen. Now, I would. I would totally forego the term limit talk and say, Stay in as long as you want. If you only got paid for your first two terms and you did the rest on your own dime. No, you can't do that because you want to get rid of Natalie.
Just giving away the control of that person to the corporations that are providing their income. Then you make the income for doing the job half that of the average citizen or that of the average citizen. Well, that's kind of where it's been. No, it's positions don't become millionaires through their pay. They become millionaires through the exemptions from laws that they have for themselves. It's a little bit of both. They are certainly not making 30,000 a year.
It's nobody making 35. Don't know. There are there are plenty of people make McDonald's. Pays 40,000 so now don't shit on that. I mean we're. Going back like a year or two before this. We want $15 minimum wage. But it's like, yeah, you're making wage money. In Congress and. It's in perpetuity, meaning you're constantly getting a paycheck even once the job is done, which is like, what the hell? How does that even make sense?
House of Representatives hiring 74,000 and that was after race they just gave themselves. Now, once you leave that post, how long do you still get paid? Because there's like, is it senators are some of these that are in perpetuity and even after you leave, you're getting paid for the rest of your life because you served, which I don't know. I mean, the president I get because once you've been president, you really can't do a normal job after that.
Although with that said, you can make millions just going out and talking at colleges. Yeah. Or you can you can be a developer. Or a podcaster. Build casinos and things. Barack Obama is a podcaster him and brew. Their podcast. And Springsteen put out a show. Oh, really? Yeah, that's about about Springsteen. It's like, what are you guys thinking? I don't know. I, I haven't even listened to that yet. Because. It just seems very weird to me.
That this sound man, I think 174,000 is about reasonable for that job because if that like that level of person would be a C level executive in the company. Let's see. But the point they shouldn't be getting that kind of pay for it. If it's really public service. Well. Then it should be a lot less than that. Because it has to be public service. Well, that would make more sense because otherwise it's not public service and the politicians are not.
Then representing necessarily the people that have elected them. They're in simply and trying to enrich themselves, which everybody tries to. Do, just fixes everything. I mean, that's the. Term limits fix a lot. Yes. Yeah. Because you're near ensuring that no special interests spend too much money on the one person because they're only going to be in for two terms. So there's no big incentive to spend tons of money getting a person into office who's going to be gone in two terms anyway.
Well, see, the interesting thing becomes you. Then you change the political landscape in a way that you would have your ramp, meaning you wouldn't just go in like Barack Obama, you know, starting as a senator for the state of Illinois. You know, that's a president. You we all know how you get elected in Illinois. Well, yeah, You know, you know the right people like Bill Ayers. Mm. You get involved with the commies and yeah, you get pushed right to the top.
But if you could only have a certain amount of years, if you had a certain amount of term limits, that would. Be per. Each step, meaning that you wouldn't go right to senator, you would start out as mayor and then governor and then state senator or that's. How this all worked out. Remember? Right then you would go into the House of Representatives and then you would move up to the Senate. And then if you were really good, you'd move up from the Senate. You could be president.
But that's how this would go, which I think would actually be better, because then the politicians would have to do the work at every level and maybe have a better understanding that by the time you actually got to the Senate of the United States, you would have enough experience from running a town or a state that you would have that experience to fall back on when you're deciding what would work.
Yeah, I'm more concerned about the experience than you are, but I'm more concerned about the fact that a lot of these people like Biden, like Nancy Pelosi, have literally spent 50 years. Yes. On the same chair. Yeah, maybe 40, but a damn long time. To get them a new chair already. Will. Yeah. Yeah, right. And it's it's a it is absolutely not representative of the people. You can argue that. Well they keep getting elected therefore people want them.
No, no. Because remember the way that we have elections in the US is kind of fucked as well by just having two parties that essentially ensure that people are reelected forever by placing a mediocre candidate but facing against an ideological enemy. And that's true for both sides at all times.
And so consequently you have no choice as to who actually represents you because the person representing you, you know, everybody votes the vote for the the least bad option in the US with just two candidates of opposite party. Well, I think. It sounds like, well, I don't really like this guy but I'll vote for him versus the other guy because you know
the other guy is a Nazi. Well, I think it's worse than that, which is once somebody gets into office, most people have a little more knowledge of them and they don't pay close enough attention, but they know the name. They've seen them on the TV. Yeah. And they're the ones they vote for because it's like, well, I don't know this new guy. I don't know this person. That's why incumbents win so much more than challengers.
It's because, well, we know this guy and he hasn't nuked us yet in our you know, the economy isn't that bad. So the other guy could be worse. That is where you really need the term because that you force the churn, you force somebody. You got to force it. Exactly. And and the problem is that we have really two sets of elections. We have the primaries, and we have the actual elections and the primaries going up against somebody in your own party.
So their stands are going to be at least somewhat similar with maybe some minor differences. Who has already been in office. Just the default for most people is like, well, why would you want to take somebody that won an election against the bad guys last time out of office? That makes no sense. So there's a huge advantage in the primaries for the incumbent. A lot of times they're running unopposed.
People don't run against incumbents because they realize that their odds of winning against the somebody who's sitting right now in that office are very, very slim. And so you have to really have fucked things up politically to get a challenge from your own party as an incumbent. Well, and the challenges are detrimental more than they are beneficial, meaning this is what the other side is going to use against your candidate is what your other party candidates used in the primaries.
Yeah, this is the intriguing part about this whole system is that the primaries overall so screwed up that yeah, there should just be a way for the, you know, the local government to figure out who they're going to put up rather than well, let's vote on that, too, because it doesn't make sense. We saw some of that and we're going to see this again I think this year. If this ends up being the Ronnie Anthony showdown, I think you're going to see a bloody primary.
And I don't think that is helpful to the Republican Party. Well, I think it's I totally disagree. I think it's exactly what's needed because the Republican Party's just a mess right now. Well, so is the Democratic Party. And they're more together than the Republicans are. Yeah, I would I would say there's a debate that can be had about that, but I'm just not interested in doing it. Mm. Yeah, but I think that right now I've said this, I think a week after the results of the last election came in.
I mean the ones that were totally forged. Well yeah. Regardless of what they were, I said it about a week later, I said if Trump runs again, if he is the candidate on the ballot, then we will have another Democratic president in office. Trump cannot win. It's not going to happen. And so I know a lot of people really want Trump to run because they think he deserves it. But thinking that he deserves it isn't going to make it real.
And if you think that the Democrats are going to be pushing with any less tools and efforts, that's the way I'll describe it. Then the last election against Trump, then you're smoking the wrong kind of weed because it's absolutely going to happen.
The best gift you can give the Democrats right now is to have Trump run as the candidate the next election, because that that will mobilize their base much more so than what they would have to do against literally any other candidate You'd have to sell people on why that's such a bad vote and just how much better, you know, a guy like DeSantis or how much worse DeSantis is going to be than whoever the Democrats run, which could be Biden for all we know.
And that's a hard, hard sell because especially if there's a big age difference and we know that there is a preference and younger people feel like they're tired of grandparents running things, right? Oh, yeah. The census would be a large step down in age for that, and that's a huge benefit to it where you might get some people not voting for Biden versus DeSantis simply because they're tired of the grandparents on the Democrat side.
Whereas if you run Trump, it's literally a rehash of that last election saying, Oh my God, we barely held down and kept this evil Nazi fascist out of office. Who's going to go and kill all the trans people is going to personally kill all women who want abortions because the women we have proof of this from lots of videos. He hates blacks, he hates minorities. He wants to take all the Mexicans they crossed over into the border during Biden's term and then put them into a concentration camp.
This is going to be what you're going to see every single day in the news. None of this is. Going to be sufficient to mobilize the Democrats to do whatever is necessary, unquote, to ensure that he not have another term. So if the Republicans want to give away the next elections, by all means, they they can do that. There is a way to do that. And the way is by running Trump. And I'll give a shit what people think that he deserves it. Yeah, maybe he does. But guess what?
That's going to fuck things up for the country or people that think, Well, he's clearly going to win. He has the most votes. Yeah. How'd that go over last time? We are. If you're Donald Trump, I think you look at what has happened in the economy and that makes you believe that you can win. And maybe it does, maybe it does. And who knows, depending on how much of the voting is legit and not. But that really isn't the point. I agree that people want, especially after seeing Biden for two years.
You definitely want younger and vibrant because the guy can barely speak. And I don't know how far back we have to go. Before. The Biden and Trump fight. I don't know how far back we have to go if it even has ever been this bad. And I'm sure it has in American history. I don't think most people that voted for Joe Biden voted for Joe Biden. They voted against Donald Trump. But that is a different concept. Yep.
And that's my point is I think that a percentage, not all but a percentage of the people that voted against Trump would not vote against this and this. They'll either not vote at all, which is more common, or potentially they'll just vote for the younger candidate, even if it's the wrong party. You know, I think that's a much slimmer chance. But getting people to not vote because they don't think that there's a good choice is very realistic.
And in that scenario, most of the votes that would be no longer coming in would be for the Democratic candidate. I think the best thing Donald Trump can do is keep himself in the talk in, the minds in people believing he's going to run, but he is running. I mean, that's the thing. He's already declared and. He's got to stay in this for I mean, this could all just be head fake to you know, this could be. Then he pulls out at the last minute. Yeah. No. Because you to.
Wait to spread a. Bullet. Well, I would agree. No, because of his ego, I would agree. But now if we were playing puppetmaster and we could control what happens, it would be okay, here's what you got to do. Donald Trump's got to go out there. He's got to be Donald Trump. He's got to do the Donald Trump thing. Ron DeSantis has to quietly be left do there.
Yeah. And that's the thing is if if somebody was able to control and maneuver Trump and all the politicians in that, yes, you're your scenario is absolutely right which is we used Trump to fake out Democrats thinking he's running. We have all the negative crap coming in against him.
In fact, in the primaries, we'll see the news media dumping on Trump, trying to convince people how much better DeSantis is because they hate Trump and then we use that to sort of keep the blow of news media away from DeSantis until post polls primaries. So just for the last few months of the elections, Right. Getting him to get a much better chance at getting in there. But I don't think that's reality. I think reality is Trump wants back in.
He did not appreciate the fact that he got forced out of office. He was already redecorating the furniture. He didn't want to have to stop that. Well, I think we all realize if Donald Trump right now said he wasn't running, the news media would be on Ron DeSantis. He would be the new Trump. They're already pushing that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I totally agree with that. I just don't think that anybody and certainly not Trump is going to be using this to create a shield for DeSantis. Right now.
I think this is very genuinely Trump running for real. Here's an interesting scenario for you brought to us by the troll broom and Deji Guru. What if it was Trump versus Hillary again, that could actually let Trump win? I think if it is Hillary on the Democratic side, people. Think then with the elections would be decided by about a thousand people because most people just would not vote, period. No choice here. There's no good choice at all. Why are you doing this to us? What are you thinking?
I think that might just be the kick off of the revolution at that point. Yes, I say make them. Make them serve together. Just switch off. President. Vice President, every year. Here's your four years. Hillary and Trump. You got to. We have that. We can't do it again. But we had that when Jefferson was Adams vice president. And I think that's an interesting concept. It did not work. Everybody hated it. And we actually passed a law saying you can't do that.
Well, because the other thing is that the vice president just has to undermine. The president the entire time because they're next in line. And so their way to get in is to make sure that the president fail. Then be like 25th Amendment. Okay, come on, let's use that. Yeah. So I guess, I. Mean, if we want to get rid of the 19th Amendment, then let's start getting rid of amendments. There's a way to start doing that line up.
If we want to go right to communism one on one or get rid of the whole Constitution, baby. Oh, yeah. Well, there. Oh, there is talk of that. I've heard from the Democrat side for sure that there's there's definitely a movement within the gen-z ers that. Cause us the rate. Of keeping the United States down and needs to be gotten rid of it.
Because if it wasn't for the Constitution, then all these progressive ideas, which they don't realize are 200 years old, like socialism, would be able to, you know, make the the country much better than it is. We can and we can incorporate into the constitutionality things like trans rights. You know, instead of everybody gets treated the same. What is wrong with that as a law? No, because you shouldn't be treating people that are different. The same. You should be treating them better. Nope.
That doesn't work with the kiddies, don't you? That's why you were a Nazi. Until their brains aren't fully mush. And that is seems to be happening later and later. Now that we have social media, all these devices again, it's interesting. Just like the teenage girls have a unhealthy body image, it's also very easy to find people with all sorts of crazy ideas like your own and you didn't have that before the internet.
Oh, so I had a rant on and the life theme days ago, which was pretty good, I think if people watched the Drift death, they would have seen. But. And why would they really? So let me Well, cause there's a lot of people watching that live. I know we're a thousand people, but on that show, I was doing my best impression of Jerry Springer, and we had two guests on where they hated each other, like they were literally, you know, at war with each other, if you will.
You know, I could see you as a Jerry Springer. Oh, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry. I love. Jimmy. And and so these two women, you know, they I guess one was making videos, making fun of the other one. And the other one was he was getting videos removed from the first one because they were they were her material. These are two women with way too much time on their hands. Well, I mean, you could argue that I could I could see that argument for sure.
But either way, they're both doing stuff on YouTube. But so there's a lot of emotional and reception arguments, yelling and screaming, crying, going on. And then we brought in two people from the audience, the one that supported each of the women, give them a chance to kind of make their points.
And one of them guys came up there, started talking about something and the the woman that was on the opposite side of him, the one that he was against or whatever, uh, said something super innocuous, I thought, but something like I can't remember the word, but something essentially calling him an idiot. Right? And then the guy chimes back, or maybe the other woman said it was like, Oh, I can't. I can't believe you're making fun of somebody who's autistic. And like, and then there was
we're told this guy's autistic is just an idiot. And and then, you know, like the typical reaction that people have is like to Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't I didn't know you were autistic. Right. And and I was having none of that. I was like, No, no, you're not going to do that. You're not going to use your handicap to gain sympathy. That's not how this works. Right? You're either actor. You're correct. If you're not capable of making a good argument, then what are you doing here?
If you're handicapped, precludes you from engaging in intellectual conversation, get off the stage and Oh my God, then I can't believe you just said that. It's like, Oh, you're making fun of handicapped people. I'm not making fun of handicapped people.
I'm saying that handicapped people who have a handicap, a mental handicap that precludes them from being able to engage in what they're attempting to engage in does not mean that everybody else gets dumbed down their level of of discourse to the level of this autistic person. So is it anti handicap? If I won't hire a blind person to drive my race car? Absolutely. I mean, that's really what you you you are not allowed to participate in this event. I just don't care. I just don't give a shit.
I'm like, you know, it doesn't matter. I'm living in the crazy bizarro world here. I'm living in a in a world of goddamn wolves. That short story about the Berger act. Yes. I'm not certain words like. Harrison. Harrison Burger. I guess that story where literally. Oh, you're you're not handicapped enough. Therefore you need to be artificially handicapped in order for everybody to on the same level playing field. Right? Everybody gets a trophy. Everybody's the same. Yeah. So I really do.
Oh, man, I dug into this dude and he shut up for the rest of the damn conversation, for the most part, because I'm like, No, you don't get to use your handicap. I don't care. I don't give a shit what your handicap is. You do not get to bring that up and use it as some kind of a bludgeon against everybody else who doesn't have your handicap. Yeah, you don't. You cannot use that as a lot of criticism. Free card. Exactly. Exactly. So that was that was a fun moment.
And and then last night, there was a whole group, another podcast that literally watched that episode. The whole thing, the whole. Content is you do really long shows and then you bring other people on to watch the other ones you did briefly. Absolutely. It worked. It's working great. Yeah, I'm gaming like 30 people day on Twitter. Those poor people. As a result of it. So anyway. Massacre was. Out. It was kind of fun to watch.
Kind of fun watching that episode because I was, you know, I was in the chat while they're talking about the episode that we're watching, and I was like chiming in every now and then. Yeah, people really like that. And they they were like, Yeah, Gene was great in this thing. He did a great. The okay, so these were the Russian bots that you paid to come in and, and give you good credit scores. No, these were totally not right. There's some Australians there, there's, I think some British dude
and there's a bunch of Americans obviously. They're all bots. Well I mean they all have, you know, accounts and they're actually actual human beings. But for the sake of politics, I suppose they'd be labeled bots because they disagree with mainstream narrative on it's easy. To trigger people and it's easy to it's easy to see how we got where we. Are. Because of those kind of things like, Oh, no, no, you can't you can't say that about the autistic guy. Well, no, I can.
And I'm not being mean about it. I'm just saying the reality of the situation and people get so sensitive and they don't notice the guy. And you can play the piano like by hearing song once. That's what you ought to be doing. Yeah. Everybody's got a skill. Everybody's got a talent. I mean, I believe that that no matter what your lot in is, you know, any handicap that you may have, everybody's got a talent. Everybody could do something.
Well, I will say that it is it is fun watching these videos, which there seems to be more of now, which is good of of some feminists doing a snarky comments about a man and the man in each of these cases. His first response back is like, did you just assume my gender. Yeah, it's how dare. You? I really hope that all men start using that as a response to anything that is anti-male. That is a comment because they don't know what to do.
They have no response for it because they're like on the one hand they, don't want to apologize because they hate you, right? On the other hand, they don't want to be perceived as not being gender sensitive. Right? And they're like, Oh, okay. So then so you're you're a woman then? Like they they get lost. Their whole argument just melts away because they're they don't understand what to say. Because you should treat everybody the same and not based upon any external factor. That's what.
But the we cannot do that. No, that's true, because you're always reading new rules. That place them on pedestals. Right. Where we're looking for laws that carve out things for certain. Groups. Which is the worst. Possible of our groups, dammit. Yes, this is which is ironically, the thing that they're blaming the patriarchy on doing. You know, men created all these laws that make it better for men, right? So we have to one. Well, they never can.
That we sent all the women to the military to go die in our wars, apparently. Yeah. Well, then, no, no, we don't want women to be drafted. No, it's the same thing with the Don Lemon thing. It's like, show me what he said, how it was sexist. And nobody has an answer for that. Even though every freakin media outlet, it doesn't matter left or right. Don Lemon Sexist comments about Nikki Haley. They will say. This. I will say it.
I think this is a change in attitude over the decades because I'm thinking back to a comment that Don Lemon would have made as an openly gay man 20 years ago. So 20 years ago would have been, what, like 23? Now we can go back even further, but let's just say 2003. In 2003, there were certainly openly gay men's men. There were men, many men. Many men having their men.
Now, I'm going to learn the English at one of these dates and times anyway, these openly gay men that would have been sitting at a news desk in 2003 and one said essentially what Lemon said that, well, he had to be careful talking about their prime if he's in their fifties. You know what the response would have been of the co-hosts? Go, girl. Oh, you silly gay man. Yeah, we can't say anything. Well, this is showing you how that. Could have been the response. Yes. And that's my point, is that.
This being a man. Just being a being, but okay. And other term they have had from being gay. Gone. Yeah. Gay and black. If he is one of those two. Man, Trump's gay man, Trump's black. So man definitely trumps gay and black women. Women. Trump Gay and women Trump black in this context case, you can't make fun of a woman. And he said something about a man in his fifties with that comment. Oh, nobody would have even blinked.
No, no. It's the fact that a not giving a shit if he's gay or black, a man said something bad about a woman. And that makes zero sense. Yeah, but. But he had a very easy fix to that. And he should have said, Are you assuming my gender? Yes. Right. And that would have stopped both of those women in their tracks. How can I be sexist? Because I identify. Yeah, I am now a woman. Don Lemon. Yes, a black gay woman. Now that troubles most things.
That trumps you two white bitches sitting here next to me. Yes, that would have been a trans going black, white. This is where we're this is the rabbit hole we're going down, though. Yeah, well, and again, this is the sort of. What do you do for tracking your microphone? Yeah, well, I was just I was leaning back in my chaise lounge. I have to just to make a and actually I am, but. Wow. Yeah. It's the best way to do a podcast. I don't, I don't want why more people haven't realized this.
This is why you go audio only you could just lay in bed it. Didn't feel like sitting up the green screen today It's like yeah it's just you carry on. You're eating grapes and sipping. Not sipping chardonnay and not drinking. But oh, that's true. It is no drink. 2023. It's well, it's no drink until decide to drink 2023. I'm drinking some electrolytes. But I was, you know, I was down last week or this week, uh, up in Fort Worth. How is that compared to last business. Trip up to Fort Worth?
I haven't been in Fort Worth in a while, and a few years ago, I usually just go to the other side of the Metroplex there. Well, as George Strait once opined in song, does Fort Worth ever cross your mind? Uh, not often, but I suppose occasionally. There is a very distinct difference between Fort Worth and Dallas and Austin. What does it mean, Different realities? Well, Austin is a brand new city. Were damn near every building was built in the last ten years.
Dallas is a completely flat city with lots of tall buildings, but they're purely office space. Nobody actually lives in downtown Dallas. They know I'm generalizing. There's probably a couple of buildings, but it's not much. Downtown Dallas shuts down at about 11 p.m. completely like no bars, no anything. It's open anymore. It's a place people drive to for business and then go home to the burbs at night.
Fort Worth is lot more typical of, I think, other Midwestern cities where it's a mixed use city. So you have storefronts on the lower level with condos and apartments above. You have much older buildings, you have a lot of warehouse buildings like brick buildings that have been converted from warehouse space to mixed use space. There used to be a lot more actual industrial in Fort Worth, but I think most of it is gone at this point. But it was it was a, um, it was interesting.
I mean, it's a the city reminds me more of Minneapolis than any other city in Texas. Interesting. Mm hmm. So if you're in Minneapolis, I don't remember. It's been a while. I mean, the last time I was there, the. The Indian casino that's there was still small. I know. They've totally rebuilt Mystic Lake. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Now it's huge here.
Oh, is ginormous. Yeah. It used to be a little six bingo back in the day, and then it became Mystic Lake Casino and I used to go there a lot that was really close to where I live. I mean, I was supposed to really where I lived in the nineties, but then even closer after I bought a house next to the casino. So that way. It was. Very convenient. They had a shuttle bus bring me to. Tell you, I played poker for a year for a living. You may have.
Yeah, that would explain the wanting to live next to a casino. The last time I was up that they had. The best gun range around. The the twins were still playing inside. So it's been a while. Yeah, I think he's beautiful. But either way, even back then, like, if you drove through downtown Minneapolis, you kind of get a sense of its mixed use. It's got a combination of old buildings, brick building, stone buildings, as well as plenty of glass towers. That's more the feel of Fort Worth.
That is tall buildings. I think the tall buildings are probably like, I don't know, 35 stories. Maybe they're not. I think Austin's taller than Fort Worth, but Austin is, you know, that's San Francisco East. So it definitely has a different feel to it. And you enjoyed your visit to Fort Worth? Yeah, it was pretty good. Didn't do a whole lot. Just but, you know, if I had. The best house in town. Meetings did go to a few nice restaurants. Uh, yeah, I didn't do a steak house.
So that was just, I guess one of them was a steak house. Technically, I did. Yeah, I had a steak. Okay, So fine. Yes, but I think I've got about that. I mean, you have to eat meat when you're in Texas. Yeah, Yeah. But yeah. And Fort Worth is also known for its cattle industry stockyards, because that's where like, all that cattle that goes to Chicago for slaughter. That's where starts is Fort Worth. It's got to start somewhere before they used.
To I should say. I mean yeah, these days it doesn't. But back in the day when they drove the cattle, meaning like with cowboys. Yeah. Maybe some rawhide you'll see or Yeah. Those, the cattle drive was literally it started in Fort Worth. Which Fort Worth was a lot older than Dallas was a it was a city way back when.
Dallas is a much younger city and they would drive the cattle all the way while the cattle is, you know, grazing on the prairie grass from Texas up through Oklahoma and Nebraska, Kansas and then into Illinois and all the way up to the Chicago. The stockyards, the back yards. Baby. Yep. I hear the smell used to be just delightful. Not a fan of that smell, but it's not as bad as pig farms at. True. That's the worst possible smell.
I prefer the steaks once they're top, that smell is a little better. Yeah, well, or even when they're butchered. I mean, it's the smell is really of the intestines, not of the meat itself. Obviously. The smell of death in the air. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember in the in the Saint Paul stockyards, which were all closed in the by the eighties, but even just going there, there is the certain smell of death. Yeah. Not pleasant.
No. Because these were humongous facilities like, you know, a square mile of pens getting, the animals ready for slaughter. Now the real question is have the Pancho's been replenished at Amazon? So they've been shipped to Amazon, but they're still showing is not in stock. So they haven't got them set up yet. They rejected my review so I have to. I don't understand why they reject reviews from people that actually purchased in the store.
That's crazy because they are now so worried about the fake reviews, even though they have let some doozies pass through. I guess it's just a question of you find a moderator that knows what they're doing or not or doesn't care that day. I just don't know who. Gives a shit if you bought the product, you ought to be able to leave a review, even if it's goofy. Yeah. And then you could market as goofy or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. And people love that stuff.
The funny reviews always get all the thumbs up. And that used to be a thing when they would write. I don't even I looked the other day, I can't even tell if there is a top Amazon reviewer list anymore where there used to be a list and you could go see who the top reviewers were. Mm hmm. I think that's gone now. I think they're hiding that. I don't see a number on my profile anymore, which used to show, Hey, your reviewer number, whatever.
Yeah, which kind of makes sense, because once you start rating or ranking the reviewers, that's where all the companies go. Hey, we want to send those people free stuff. Mm hmm. I still get emails daily and I haven't done a review in probably six years. I just think Amazon's got such a simple mechanism for that, which is to only allow people to review products they bought on Amazon. I Understand why they want to open that up a little bit. I don't.
But it for for newer products they can kind of get it I mean I was impressed that Amazon did email yesterday already with the. Hey. You've bought that Cosori air fryer it's been recalled. Oh yeah even. Though I bought it, you know, four years ago. So I was happy that their Yeah. That they have that ability. I mean. That's good. I checked mine is not in that list so yeah. I have one, my mother in law has one and my mother has one. So we're going to be getting three new air fryers, baby.
Yeah. What you may want to do for yours at least, is to sell it on eBay or something and pick up the one that I've got, if you like that better. I like the one we've been using. I know, but that's your opportunity because you're going to have a new one, which means that you can get close to full price for it if you sell it. And they you know, you're not going to get anywhere near that thing. You used one.
No, I did think it was interesting their their system for doing the recall because they do not rightfully require you to have a receipt because people do get these things as gifts or maybe through the receipt away because, the warranty was over. But their system is what we want you to write out your serial number, which is like a 15 digit number, whatever it is.
On. A piece of paper, then put it in front of the unit, take a picture, put it behind the unit, take a picture, put it on the other side of the unit. Take a picture. They they want three pictures is interesting. And what I'm thinking about this is like, well, this would make sense because you can find photos of this unit, every word. We all know what Photoshop and Deepfakes could do now. So how many people could try to get a free air fryer? Because all you need is a valid serial number.
And I don't know how hard it would be to guess what a valid serial number would be. Not recommending anybody commit fraud. But since you don't need. To, you're not suggesting I get a free air. Fryer, right? I'm not suggesting that. Now, you can use the knowledge to do whatever you want by going to recall Darko. Sorry, e-comm or whatever it is where they ask for the photo and it's like, I've got. Photos, shoes that overheat, or there. Is a piece in it that can cause overheating and fires.
They there have been 200 reports, over 2 million units. So it's not that much. Okay. It's not much, although they're going through the hassle of replacing them. Use this thing. Do you keep it on the counter with crap on top of it or do you put it on your island in your kitchen with nothing above it? I don't have an island. So there are cabinets right above. Okay. Yeah. So you'd have to be careful with that. Yeah. When using it.
Although we have used it almost daily for the four years we've had it. And I figured if it was going to go up in flames, it probably would have. Hmm. Maybe that's true. Maybe that's not. But I was. Turn it on and leave it on for like 5 hours and see if it catches fire. Right. See what happens. You might want to do that outside maybe, but I mean I've run it at the highest level, which for hours is only 400 degrees. Right. And I've done that for 40. Like about the one I go because it. Really.
Makes doing the the meat just searing in flavor really good. I like by 525 or 550, something like that. Now the intriguing thing about the photographs or the CO sorry was the photograph, and I didn't say all of them, so I just only did this in one. Mm. They want to see that you cut the cord. Oh, interesting. So they don't want a proof of destruction. Correct. Although Photoshop allegedly would make that very easy. Yeah, that's the hard. To make it look like you cut the.
Cord. Yeah. And then continue using it because what are they. Are they selling scissors that you should use for cutting metal. They should. Right. You know, just cut the cord and then I'm for Cutter. I'm a cord cutter. It's not very hard. You know, to be fair, it's not very hard to repair a cord that's been cut there. So there's that. I don't know what this is proving, except it's probably removing their liability.
Exactly. Exactly. So if you go and put that cord back on, you're like, hey, I didn't know I burned my house down. Yeah. And they're like, No, that serial number prove that you had cut the cord. Yeah. So we're not responsible if your house burns down. So you reattach the cord and then drop it off at the Goodwill. Right? Or in my case, you don't actually cut the cord because that wouldn't allow you to use the unit before. My question is, how long is it going to take them to ship a new unit?
Oh, probably a while, I would think. Right, Because people that normally do cook, they will do so a multiple times a week. So, yeah, I'd like how. Long am I going to be without my cooker, man? Yeah. You got to get these things out. I mean, one good that they're doing it, but it's going to be interesting to follow that. And I still have to get rid of my old one. I keep forgetting to throw it away.
And I'm just saying it's going to be interesting to see how many people because right now it's we're going to see if it takes a day for it to be in the review process, because they're obviously they get the information, they look at the photographs. And I'm just wondering how many people are going to try to get a free air fryer by guessing a serial number because I don't know. Do companies when you put out serial numbers, is there any reason to play the game where they're just not sequential?
You know, they eat more often than not, they're sequential. So all you got to do is find a photo of a serial number online and then add some random digits, and then they'll probably be a legit number. Yeah. And if you're the first one to claim that unit, you probably are in good shape. You could get a thousand free air fryers in.
The more interesting thing was there was a third party that has verified that the piece at question has been fixed and upgraded and that's no longer a problem with the new air fryer. Mm hmm. I guess people don't want to burn their house down when they're making food. I don't know, though. My guess is that piece is probably like the clamp that attaches the cord to the unit. It's possible because that's the most likely location of a fire if that piece breaks and over. Because if.
Yeah, if it overheats or dries out, you know, they use the wrong type of plastic. They, they use Bakelite instead of something else then, then the cord will not be attached. And so it's more likely to every time you unplug or plug the you in, then there's more pressure on the cord, then it'll slide out and then create a short. The short will then melt plastic and catch the unit fire, which will burn down the kitchen and your whole house. That's how you Sherlock Holmes, the ship.
And then that's a bummer. Omega projects as my kids used to get hungry every day. It's like, do they still not get hungry every day? Yeah. I'm too bad. I'm sorry about that. Yeah. I don't know damn kids. But be. I mean, can't you just, like, you know, put them in front of a iPhone or something and then they won't complain about hunger. Like most parents do right here? No. Have a phone. Kids have. A no. It's fine. That'll be cool. Don't worry. Don't worry about your body image.
Don't worry about all the predators. It's okay. You know, if your kids are hungry, you give them a phone with pictures of burgers on it. Fat models? No, because they should know that they. They're way too fat. Oh, that's right. You want to train them? Why do you think I would give them a phone? And of course, you would just turn the Wi-Fi off so they can't access the Internet. They can only access Jean at the local networking them. Yeah. It's not good for anybody, man.
The local network is is generally not PG rated, so you. Don't want to give that to your. Kid. You definitely don't want to give it to you. That's interesting. Just look, I've I've, I've had to explain that to people when they, you know, they come over or something in like your house. It's not like kid friendly. It's not Can you believe with a 20 foot snake my house I friendly you amazing. So you're you're 20 foot snake I mean how I mean it could probably kill you, but what age would you be like?
Tell me. That's the way we say that. That. Very good. Well, it depends. We have an understanding. If I'm thinking of the snake would have to outsmart you first. That shouldn't be that hurt, right? So it's like, There you go. The snake. It just needs to make me trip and fall and then hit my head on the floor. And then it's got all the time that it needs to give me. The snake is giving you some roofies, roofies or something like that. So you can. You know, there would be a good television show.
Right? Uh huh. Or at least a comic that somebody could drop. That would be kind of funny. Now, the biggest thing this thing gives is large. But if you brought in like a five year old, I mean, there's the snake. They even care. I mean, five year old might be doable for the snake, but, you know, it's still so in the wild where these snakes are from, its natural food source of of the adult size reticulated python monkey. Oh. So if right about a five year old, they'd be like, ooh, dinner.
You know, not humans, just monkeys. So you can see while humans are not the proper food source, monkeys would be right. That would be kind of like the difference though, of eating the fake meat and. You know, the the real burger and. Things like close enough, close enough. I mean, I probably wouldn't complain, but but anything under a five year old probably would be a very tasty snack. For the snake. Now, this is interesting news.
The Daily Mail, which I know not exactly the height of journalism reporting. A new study where is this out of from Stanford University. Mm hmm. Smoking cannabis daily. A third more likely to develop heart disease. I think that's true. Well. Well, the people at Stanford. Yeah. They're not correct. I I'm also wondering what different. Types, of. Course smoking and, you know, is it was it the cannabis or is it just strictly the. Inhale of that? I can tell you exactly what it is. It's the lethargy.
It's the lack of physical activity that comes along with people that are smoking a bunch of pot. They're not going out and finding a pair of shoes. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, I do know because I know one guy that smokes by the did run a marathon. Um, but here let me just the cheese lounge a little bit. There you go. Uh, but yeah, you got to look at the the cold symptoms like there there's a certain type of person that would both enjoy marijuana and a lack of exercise. Mean gamers.
Are not necessarily gamers, but just people that are burning. A lot of YouTubers. I know. Yeah, people are spending a lot of time in front of computer screens and smoke pot and don't get out much. Would probably all have an increased risk of heart related disease. And that what you're saying makes sense because it also says it didn't matter whether the drug was smoked, taken as part of edibles or other methods. Yep. So it's just the hey, I don't want to go out. I'm just going to sit here.
What I just did is called a meta study. Oh, this would come to analyze data unrelated. Somebody else gathered and said they were wrong. Here, let me explain it to you.
Well, their data says that it's still a higher risk, but this is where we have a lot of intriguing things coming out, because I've seen multiple news, me studies now which are claiming and I don't even know how you do this, and I don't necessarily believe them, but there are studies that are coming out of otherwise respected sources saying that, well, the people that are have been vaccinated against COVID are having less heart and stroke issues than the people weren't.
And I don't even know how you separate those groups at this point. Yeah, that that that's a politically motivated study. Well, it could obviously be, which is why it should be questioned. Yeah. Yes. The way that you build a study like that is you start with the end goal in mind and. You say of all the people that have had these issues, that have had heart related issues, when they have that heart related issue, were they vaccinated at the time or not?
And you include samples from before COVID was existed into that and you come up with the answer that clearly people that were never vaccinated have way more heart issues than people that were vaccinated because the vaccinations started after you started collecting the data right. This is it. It says anything you want with the study. It's really it's really easy stuff. I would I would.
Suggest company is the Berkeley I. I had a client that was in the business of doing medical studies or really not so much doing them, but taking the data and cranking out findings from it. That was their company did. And so I learned quite a bit about that whole process. It says that marijuana third most commonly used drug in the United States behind alcohol and tobacco and I'm curious about that because I would think marijuana caffeine.
I would think would be much higher usage than both of those. I guess they don't include caffeine for some reason. Caffeine is a very addictive drug. It also very bad for your heart if taken, end up in the quantities especially. And ironically, it's good for weight loss, so. Well, yes. Well, and there's. I've talked to my cardiologist about this because I'm like. Oh, yeah, you did. Yeah, we forgot to check.
I am not dead yet. The the drug seems to be working, so the extra heartbeats have disappeared, at least, you know. And what was this one? Let me look it up brought back while we're talking. What's it. Called? The drug is called Flicker Night, which is a fun little drug. But is that the brand name? I would assume. It. There's another name that gets sold under as well, like dope something or other. But it's FTC like and neither.
And the caffeine, the cardiologist is like, no, I mean if you cups of coffee a day, not a big deal. I think where you get into trouble with the caffeine or the people that are like slammin Red Bulls, like having ten a day or more. And some people do. I don't know how their heart doesn't explode, but so, yeah, I don't know where that comes in. And I would also think that tobacco use has been on the decline over the last where marijuana use is way up. I mean, how many people?
It says 48 million smoked cannabis at least once a year. How many people are smoking tobacco now? I think it's mostly just the Zoomers. Are still doing. Tobacco. I don't think there's any Gen Xers that smoke Cigarets there might be a few millennials, there might be a few, you know, presidential candidate types that are in their eighties. But for the most part, I think the only people I've seen smoking are the, you know, 20 year olds. Now this says, who is this?
Who is as the CDC? Oh, they're always right that in 2020, they estimate 30.8 million adults in the United States smoke cigarets. And I don't know how often that means, but we just you know, that was like 50 million people smoke pot. So I don't know how. You sure you want to be taking this stuff? Because one of the side effects is vision problems. Yeah, I understand where where it all comes from. It's a fun little drug. It's like black on this black box. Got to be careful.
And you said, you know, it's the smallest dose possible, which for a guy that's Grams. Yeah. Mm hmm. So for now. And my guess is what I'd like to do is, since it seems to have cleared this up, would be to remove that from the equation and see if it comes back. Yeah. So you can't do beta blockers when you take it. There is a Yeah, I'm on the calcium blocker and something else. It's lots of fun stuff. But I did have the root canal redo done on
Wednesday. Oh okay. And that was quicker than I expected under an hour. It was a little sore the next day, but like today it's pretty much back to the normal and I go back in a couple of weeks where they'll finish it off. He's like, Yeah, there's a lot of bacteria in here. We'd rather we to fill it with some antibiotic juice. Yeah. And then let that sit in there for a couple of weeks and then remove that so you don't have, you don't have the fun stuff come back. Right.
But at least that was easier than expected. I'm like, well, how hard is that going to be too? That's good to redo that. So I guess for those who have that recommendation to do a retreat on a root canal, it seemed way easier than the original root canal. Whether or not everybody will have the same experience, I don't know. So the first root canal just wasn't done well or with. This one, I guess was. And it was the second to the last tooth on the upper side.
So I mean, it was the furthest back molar. It was the next one. Yeah. Yeah. And the A.D.A. said for whatever reason, and within like the last ten years, they have learned that. I don't know if this is everybody or just some people, that there is a little extra bit of the nerve that has often been missed in the past. And that seems to be what happened here, where there was a bit of the nerve which was higher up than the dentist didn't catch.
And if you leave a little bit of a nerve, I guess when you do a root canal, it's eventually going go really badly. Well, bacteria eat it. Yes. Yeah, that bacteria stays. It shouldn't have bacteria in there as the issue. Well Right. Which is also part I guess of the root canal not being done 100%. How long ago was the root canal. The first one. It was probably about seven year years ago. Eight years ago. So when they did the X-rays, they saw a little bit there of the of the infection.
And I don't know how they can stop guessing. They've got little meters on everything because once he got into there and that point, he was like, oh yeah, there's a lot of bacteria. But you could see it. What's it look like? I'm fine. I'm Sure. Kind of. Kind of like the grayish. Ooze oozing out of your teeth. It's like. So I'm glad I didn't see that part. You usually smell. See, I have the big you know, they got the dam in and all of that, so.
Yep. And the other stuff that was going on, but it did a good job, didn't feel a damn thing. And it was whatever he gave me. It's like I told him I was on the fleck inside because the fleck inside, the things they give you are like any dentist, any doctor, any nurse, anybody you're dealing with. Let them know you're out. This stuff which lets me know it's not something I would like to be on super long term. Well, I mean it's yeah, like I don't know that you can do, uh, general anesthetic.
The fact that is your heart and stuff. That would be a bad thing. Yeah. So yes, it's, it's a pain in the ass. But if you did a little culprit before going on, general anesthetic should be totally fine. Medical advice. Though. Yeah. Dude, please do not take medical advice from the Unrelenting podcast. No, no. But we just know how to balance these things right out so everything works. And, you know. We're not medical professionals, but we will play one on the Internet.
Well, we're we're not medical, but we're sick enough that we've had to read all the different medical information for the drugs that we take ourselves, which probably means we know more than most doctors. Yeah, we've come across things like I said, or maybe I did when I talked to the cardiologist and I'm like, Yeah, I was reading a study from Cedars that talked about if you take over a gram of the fish oil, it causes more prevalence of A-fib. And he's like, really?
And I noticed he put that in the notes of my visit. So I'm wondering if, he wanted to go eat. That the next. Day. Yeah, he's going to go look that one up and be like, Wow, wait, that's right. I have have I like my doctor? I I've been with the same guy for a decade that I've been in often and I like because after like the first year we got an understanding going, which is that I do the research, I find out what drugs that I need to take, and then I tell him, and then he does a script for it.
Now, I'm sure he's not going to write a script for something that I just want to try for fun. But he's like, I need the really extra strong Viagra. ROTH Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, you know, he's written out a script for actor for me because I want to try it. I don't need it none at all. These don't need that stuff. Does not not requirement at all. But, you know, I heard through the grapevine that it could actually be a fun little drug when you're engaging in certain sexual activities.
Genes like, oh, I heard this really helps lower your blood pressure. So I mean, it. Does lower your blood pressure. That's absolutely correct. And he had to when he was writing the script for Vega, he had to remind me that, you know, make sure that, like, you're not overdoing the Viagra stuff when you're taking your blood lowering medicine, blood pressure meds. Unless you really want to just die and then go for a. Four day orgy. Don't take the blood pressure meds for those four days.
I want to see that your medication by me. I don't want to see the orgy. No, no, no. Yeah. No, I'm pretty sure. You know. I just want to see that on the bottle. I'm going to go for an orgy. That's. That's something the doctor has to tell you verbally. Well, having a smirk on his face. Not just like think of the air fryer people. He's just covering the ass. Like, I have to tell you this. Yeah. Yeah. Well, any. And I mean, he said so this stuff's really expensive, so I'll write you a script for it.
But just keep in mind this. This is not like if you don't need it, if you just want it for fun. This is a expensive drug to be having fun with. And he's not kidding is that stuff is pretty pricey if you get there and it's that way I agree. I think it was. What is it with the sea Russian Viagra? No, not this thing. Cialis. Oh, yeah. Cialis is the good. The Vega was the first in that type of drug and Viagra. Well, we all know the history of Viagra was developed as a blood pressure lowering.
Yes. Drug with very weird side effects. Yeah, and it worked. Okay. It wasn't great at lowering blood pressure, but everyone seemed to be walking around with our arms all day long. They seemed happy. They they remarked that it did. And the happier you are, the more your blood pressure goes down. It's odd. Mm. Yeah. So just kind of shifted the blood pressure from your one part of your body to a different part of your body if you're going around. You know, this does the same thing in women.
Has the same effect. Yeah. Yeah. It shifts where the blood goes. So it's like a traffic. Cop kind of though. Yeah. It's, it changes the prioritization of what parts of your body, you know, have an increase in blood pressure and what parts of a decrease in blood pressure. Where else can you this kind of information? I'm asking that not medical information, that's for sure. No, But as we said, if you're experiencing an erection lasts for over 4 hours, please, please.
Call your doctor or ours. Right. Well, dude, that's not even enough for one orgy. He's like, I'm not even getting warmed up. That's why you do Cialis instead of Wagga Wagga is about 3 to 4 hours. The Alice is 12 to 14 hours to Viagra. You're really watching that clock. You're like. Yeah, Viagra is like if you take your Viagra, like, you know, before you're literally physically in bed. If you think at the beginning of your date. Yeah, you don't want to do it at dinner.
You're to be yeah, you're going to be bumping into the table at dinner and then nothing after that. Timing is everything. Whereas with the Cialis you pop that thing any time during that day and you're good to go until past midnight. You say, Yeah. 84 people right now listening live to this or wondering what they have signed up for. Yeah. And it's unrelenting. That's show. That's what you've signed up for. You tell your friends it. We review the show. Nobody has donated to the show this week.
So I understand that they were. Gallantry coming for me. I'm not surprised they were so offended by the sexist content in the last show, although more of them are showing up to listen now. So it shows you what they really like. I know what you guys like. I what you're here to hear. You're going to be like, oh, Bill O'Reilly is what they like. They're the Jeep. That's something really horrible. But I'm going to come and listen more ladylike. Get a cane is watching.
GIRL My girl, Yeah. Taylor Yeah. Taylor Swift eyed watcher and all. That's true. Yeah. She's a little feminist, isn't she? Just a short list. Yeah, I don't mind. She still work right through. She's 33. I mean, that's going to work right through. You think? Yeah. She'll be. Older. She get the more feminine. I'd say by 40. She's a dyed in the wool Republican again. You think I do? That's my guess. I've said it multiple times. People don't tell me I'm going to.
Be a bitter old single woman. No, I don't. Because she's got $1,000,000,000. So why be bitter? Even if you don't find the right guy, you got to have the million. Dollar ones out there. Yeah. Mm. Billion dollars. Look at the Hillary Clinton's of the world. No, no, no. She's a tizzy. A crazy lesbian. So it's different. And Taylor? No. I don't believe so. I mean, by maybe. I don't know. You have. Proof. Though. I mean, I wish I did because, I mean, that's the kind of proof I would like.
They'd like to see that proof? Yeah, I would like to. I mean, personally, I would like to get proof. Not I don't want to witness said proof. I would rather just get mine. When the thing. It you know, the firsthand proof would be the best way to go. The firsthand proof. I can't prove. Yes. I mean, in. Not both hands. Right. Well, but with. This one. Depends what the other one's doing at the time. It's all it's all questionable. This is again, it's not medical or personal advice.
I will say that like actually, as a guy watching lesbian sex, it's just more funny than anything else. She's like, this is stuff. This is you know what The Tonight Show used to be? This is great stuff. This is right here. Yeah. The dialog about nothing. Best you know, Tonight Show back in the Carson days have plenty plenty of dark humor going in. Oh, totally. A lot of innuendos. You guys like Buddy Buddy Hackett in there. It was a different time. Yeah. Yeah, it was. You know, And even.
Letterman was a different time because him and O'Reilly had a pretty good relation ship. Hmm. They disagreed politically, but O'Reilly still, when it's Letterman's birthday or if it's a, you know, the you know, that show started or went off the air X amount of years ago shows clips over the years of him and David Letterman. And they were able to even though they were at NBC, he was though he worked in a lot of different places.
By the time he was on Letterman, he was mainly on Fox, but he would go on because he he was always writing a book as he is now. Mm hmm. And Letterman would have them on. I think Letterman enjoyed these sparring, you know, making fun of him, that the ability with somebody is right there. Letterman thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. O'REILLY They're the smartest guy in the room. And as long as they don't tear each other's throats out, it makes for an interesting podcast
like young women. So we would we would work well with Letterman and O'Reilly. I would work better with young women. But, you know, no. You wouldn't you wouldn't get any work done at all. I get plenty of work. What are you talking about? I can multitask. Yeah, so says you, The women are like men. No, I don't think you can see Alice. Maybe Cliff is like I'm writing a dissertation right now. That would. How. How would this podcast, a serious podcast, turn into this man way?
Was this a serious podcast? One Was it was. I don't think it was ever that. A lot more serious than is there well. This is what the beauty of a completely unscripted podcast is and that's what unrelenting is. And we've talked about this both on and off the show where we could give it a direction. It's like it would probably help with the ratings, you know, with how many people listen and. How many more money coming. In. And with that possibly although I'm with John C the. Boardroom and factor.
If you heard yesterday's no agenda the newsletters for no agenda go out before every show and they're saying, hey, donate, donate, donate, donate, donate, donate, donate. Which makes sense because you have to remind people. It's a way I don't get their newsletter. I realize that. And the second one he ever sent and I said, John, I don't need the advertising here. A lot of people responded this week with, Hey, we're broke.
And I believe that because that's what we have said from day one of this by inflation. So this is this is why I think livestreaming works is in there are fun live streams where not only do I get to do your very. Right. But it's also generating a few hundred bucks an hour. The concept is we can have a show that is 100% politics. We could have a show that's 100%, you know, eighties culture. We could do a show about a variety, different topics.
But that has never really seemed to be the direction we wanted to go in. And maybe that is just selfish for us, but it's like, Oh, I like having a show with the shows that I do now. Planet Rage, it's very simplistic. What we're going to do. There is a there is a to it. We know we're going to find some clips of somebody that's either pissed off or we're going to be pissed off about something somebody said. And that's a cathartic experience with grumpy old bands.
It was always more sticking to the tech stuff for sure. We added a little bit of politics in this show knowing that you don't need to really have any special preparation for it. Let's show up and see what the conversation is. It is obvious to everyone that that's the case. Maybe it may be. But here's the thing that. This show genuinely started by Darren and I talking on the phone and saying, why aren't we doing a podcast?
This like literally are sitting here and yammering for an hour is a podcast and. Stations are so good. People should really have to listen them. Yeah. And that's that that was, you know, it seemed like kind of natural to be able to do that and, and then just miraculously you broke up with what's this face. The old what's his. Face? The old Webster's face. Exactly. You know, And. Then Russia invaded Ukraine and everybody wanted to turn to.
Iraq. Exactly. Exactly. So it's like timing just seemed to work out good for this, becoming a podcast and yeah, talk about Syria. So back to back a year ago when the special military operation started. I did that sort of rundown of the history of Ukraine on this show, not on my own show and this show. And that was, I think, very, very well. I mean, it was good.
People, I think, enjoyed it, getting a totally different perspective than what the news was saying, but also that was about as serious as we got the rest of the year on this show. What is it like? Because Sirius is no fun and we also understood when it came to boots on the ground in Russia or Ukraine, that one, we were probably more accurate than the mainstream media, but we also knew that it was very possible that these stats in the news coming out of that area was bullshit.
Yeah, and we've always said that we can't confirm 99% of it. No. So anybody that's claiming to be able to be like, well, we can tell you with 100% certainty, it's like, no, you can't read the story. I remember of the the missile that went into Russia where it was like, oh, obviously it was a Russian missile. And it was like, nope, nope. Turned out it was a Ukrainian misfire. Oops. And this is why you have to question everything, especially in the Deepfake technology.
I do agree you got on the No Agenda show yesterday because Adam Curry again was talking about listening at podcasts faster than 1.0 and he was like my buddy, he's telling people to listen in faster.
Yep. And his concept was and I think he's right on this when you're listening and anything faster one acts, you have a much greater chance of missing a deepfake now because the deepfakes are getting so good that there are some the deepfakes at this point which are so good, you're never going to catch it at any speed. But there are some that are off just a little bit. And if you listen at 1.2, five or one five or God forbid, two or faster, you're totally going to miss it out.
And I think he was right. The pod father was in saying that listening at a faster has trained people's brains to expect things to sound like that. So they're going to miss even listening at the one time. A bad deepfake might get by those people because they're used to hearing those weird audio abnormalities and listening at faster than 1.0 speed. Yeah, I just agree with that. I really do. First of all, you can tell Deepfake just as easily or just as hard at higher as at normal speed.
There's nothing magic about deepfakes that make them sound worse at normal speed, but better at high speed. That doesn't make any sense what. There is, because there's a little bit of the audio. It's not glitches. But, you know, when you listen at a faster speed, yeah, there is that weird pumping effect or whatever you want to call it. No, no, there. Is. There's something. There. No, that's because you're using bad software. That could be the listen, the way.
That you speed up podcast, that is just somebody talking. I mean, you get speed up I guess music, you. Segment this model. And. Then it seems like they're talking it's. Not going to sound all that great. But the way that you do it is essentially resampling the audio through digital method and then playing that back at a higher speed. So you're you're certainly making adjustments digitally in real time when you do that. And it is a corruption of the audio.
But here's the piece that makes what Adam said not be true. We don't need to do that or Deepfake you can literally report that sound already accelerated. So you don't take and sample the deepfake sound clip and then compress it into a higher speed. You clip the way that you would the normal podcast.
So a real voice on a podcast actually goes through a lot more digital manipulation to make it be faster, but still keep the pitch the same then a deepfake because the deepfake can literally be recorded at a faster speed at the proper pitch with nothing necessary to be done through it. No, I. Agree. I think it's just that if the deepfake isn't 100% accurate as to the voice. Mm. With the speeding up in most podcast players
and you may be using one that's better than most but that. Me. Rejiggering of the handle that it's using to speed it up and try to keep it at the same sound. It does have a weird little artifact to it that I'd like to be the Jerry Springer between you two fighting this one out, The Godfather and the Russian apologist going head to head. So the Godfather will will claim that he can hear things better, and he's got better ears, even though they're their cyborg ears.
See, that's how the technology to enhance his hearings, if he's. Using, he's enhancing. Is totally enhancing. That's absolutely right. But I think that the the fake voice rate, the all the different there's a multitude of programs right now that can create those fakes. And I've used probably four of them. So which is the better? There's probably way more in the fourth. They're they're meant for different things and they have different price models. So Best Buy price, Best Buy sounds.
The quality is like this is sounds as good as they possibly. Can. I think the the one that sounds the best is what the hell is it called? Let me look it up. There's like voice a I 11 labs for just grip does their own bit as well. Yeah. And the descriptors not the but they're their tech is a bit older at this point so 11 labs I built. Yeah. 11 labs is the one I pay for.
So 11 in labs is the one that you did your voice and, and that is probably the best sounding right now without getting into knowing anything about programing, right? You can do it because it's sitting on top of open air. So you can actually, if you want to dig in and actually do some programing, you can actually tweak these things to be more accurate to what you're going for.
But the thing that voice, that voice lab, which is by 11 labs, has built in with this number normal user interface is they have a setting called stability. And what stability does is it determines the variance in speech patterns and pitch of the the fake voice. This is why a lot of previous generation Texas speech programs all sounded very obviously fake, right? Because every single word was pronounced the exact same way every time that it was pronounced, with no difference at all in the speed
or the pitch of that pronunciation. Right. Every time the word came up, it sounded exactly the same. Right. Which is what I like the sound all the same way, very monotonous. What this stability setting does is it lets you either add or remove the randomness variances that happen in speech, but they're not quite random. They're based on certain words, like there are certain words that lend themselves well, like the word well being stretched out like that, you hear from. The more excitable words.
Yeah, the words basically that that you can I don't want to call it singing, but you can stretch that last sound a little bit. Yeah. Just like when somebody brings something up and you're like, well, exactly. So that's one. The other one is a pitch shift. Which way? If you want to really enunciate a certain thing, you want to highlight it verbally, you may do a pitch shift so that it's distinct from other words. If you do too much of it, you're going to start sounding like Christopher Walken.
You don't want to go overboard and do that. You don't want to sound like Christopher Walken. Exactly. So that was pretty bad. But I think I haven't heard from Jennifer Walken in a while. I need to rewatch. You. One of those movies that he was in. Yeah, he was always good. He was always fun. Now they only do like a certain amount of words. They say. When this is why you this way I pay for it because I think I pay for hundred thousand words a month. And now, if you wanted to do a whole audiobook.
Yeah. If you want to make just changes to little bits here and there, how do they do the 100. Is it like would you get a preview and then you get a chance to render the whole thing? I mean, how do you know. No, you're, you're paying basically for machine time. Yeah. Which is kind of the problem if it's not right and you're like why render the whole book? But it wasn't done properly, so how do you make sure it's going to pass on to your like. You subscribe, you pay for more.
You just keep it there's I gotcha. To for it so. They should hear unrelenting. You should pay you remember? I don't remember how much I paid for this thing, but I think it was like 20 bucks or less for like 100,000 words like that. They're fun to play around with. It's much better technology than it used to be. It's way better. And I've been a fan. Like I literally.
I mentioned this to Adam, in fact, that my first foray into computer speech was actually in 1987 when I wrote a program that did the beta speech on the Mac. Um, yeah, I think would be. A great idea to do a YouTube channel like little 510 minute blobs of news and using that technology to read it, you know, and that. We don't literally has been done now for several years by a whole bunch of Chinese. And I know, but it's getting better and better. Man. It is.
And in fact I have different UI software that will generate the video portion based on what you're talking about automatically as well. So that's wild. If you want to just type in some stuff or copy and paste some stuff that somebody else actually said, you want. To try that, that'll be. Fun. And then generate the video, totally doable and then start earning, you know, video views. And I hate those videos. I think they suck.
I always point out in comments when stuff is I generated videos and discourage people from subscribing, but they still get tons of subs. And we will. Understand when they're consuming fake news. They will guarantee you right here, right now, what you hear on unrelenting, unrelenting. That show will never be I. Well, it will be a since Darren's death, because I'll keep doing the show with me, I voice. But for the time being, yeah, for the time being. We're going to have it live. Yeah.
Until I'm dead. Thanks. Yeah. And that's to know it. At least it'll carry on. And that'll be my legacy. That's right. Your legacy will be fully controlled by me. It's perfect. I can only imagine where you. I would like to say I'd care, but I'll be dead. When?