What the hell? Ello. And welcome to episode number 60 of Unrelenting February 17th, 2023. 60. I mean, you think we'd be getting good at this, gene, but. Wow. I just did the hundredth episode of surgery and speaks, so I'm like, Wow, you're still. That's that many. I can't believe it. Yeah. Yeah. I thought. You did, like, five or ten episodes. What? No, I think what you're trying to say is you've listened to only five or ten episodes possible. They all sound so much alike.
I can't tell the difference between one to the other. Uh huh. That that part of it may be true because at least 50% of the content of me. So there is some repetition or similarity then. But then I could say that about the entirety of No Agenda stream, which you're on every single day. I know I tried to speak on the stream more than Adam Curry. That's just my. Goal. Mm hmm. I do. On some weeks, I think. Yeah. I'm not sure that's true across the board. Probably not in my mind, though.
It's a completely different thing. But unrelenting Episode 60. I mean, I guess we're totally past our prime now. Yeah, well, if the. If we're gonna die by 100, then yeah, for sure. But the. The Don Lemon thing. I was just reading about that. Mm hmm. Did you. Are you up to speed. On the die? No. No. Reverse. What's the latest? I mean, he seems to have one every month. Well, this is it. And it's funny because all of a sudden, the left is trying to cancel him, and he is gay. He's black.
He's everything the left like, except the man. I mean, that's the mad bird right there. But I guess they moved him to a morning show, which, I mean, again, I know nothing about nothing because I don't watch anything. And they moved him to a morning show with two women. Mm hmm. And I guess they had a clip of Nikki Haley, who says she's running for president, which is fine. But they ran a clip of her and she was taking on Joe Biden.
Mm hmm. And probably Donald Trump by talking about, hey, we we need we need a politician. You know, we need politicians that aren't past their prime. And, you know, I kind of agree with that. Oh, I do, too. But Don Lemon's take on this, which he's getting bent over the coals for. Mm hmm. Was Well, Nikki Haley better be careful because that, you know, 52, she's not really in her prime either. And oh, she's talking about herself maybe. I don't know.
She was obviously talking about the Bidens and the Trump. Right. Yep. Yep. But he made the comment that at 52, she wasn't in her prime. And the women immediately that he was doing the show with. Why do. You. And people are just throwing all the even conservative sites? I mean, I think Breitbart just the all the people covering this are like, oh, he's a horrible, sexist person. It's like, well, wait, wait, wait. One, how is it sexist to say somebody of an age is past?
Their age is not sex? Yes. Unless she's totally ethically say, well, at 52, Nikki Haley's past her prime because she's a woman now, a 52 year old guy is in his and he's like, well, don't don't yell at me. He's like, just go Google. When is a woman in her prime? And here's the funny thing. Now, if you Google that question, all you get are stories about Don Lemon, like the first 5000 pages. It's all about this.
And if you do the now, if you don't know how to do a good search, kids can do negative sign. LEMON to get rid of all the shit that mentions Don Lemon. Mm hmm. And then all of a sudden you're seeing. He's absolutely right. Doctors forever, you know, whoever does this kind of stuff, whoever is figuring out this information, they're like, you know, a woman is in her prime from, like, anywhere between 25 and 45 three. Right. See, there you go. And some of them even went up to 50.
But I didn't see anybody saying that a woman was in her prime over 50. So he was just literally making the comment that you're going to say somebody's past their prime. Honey, you're not in your prime either. Well, how old is he? I don't know. I can look I mean, I'm guessing just from looking at Don Lemon that he's probably close to 50 ish. Yeah, that would be my guess. I don't think he's like 20. He's or anything like that. I mean, is that wrong? He was. Yeah. He's 56, so he.
He wasn't like, I'm in my prime. There you go. He's just making a. Point that if you're in your fifties and you and I know. But. But here's the thing. The crime is defined differently for men and women. Well, yeah, for women, it's usually like, you know, that's it. It's like, well, you make childbearing. And childbearing and ability to get a husband. So attractiveness combined with the physical ability to have a child. Gene adds, Sir. Gene, that is. Literally the definition.
And then for men it is generally money. It is how how set are you? In case an emergency happens to take care of your family. But it's like so some men get into their primes. Much earlier, I would say Elon Musk was in his prime much sooner in life. Because they. Came a multi-millionaire very early on. Let's just say physical and mental acuity is how you're going to rate this. Forget anything.
Let's just pretend we live in Star Trek world where nobody has to make money and everybody is provided for your physical and mental happiness. Yes, Thank you. The physical and mental acuity starts to drop off after 50. We know this. And to deny that and to make it sexist, it's like I think Don Lemon is a dick and I don't like his politics, but I don't appreciate when people go after or try to cancel and just social media. LYNCH Which I guess is a really bad people.
We can't say that he's black but go after so you. Can't cancel a gay black man. They're trying. I don't. Know how it's like he should have, like the Teflon on. Him. Yeah, exactly. But it's still what's happening because people are just that insane. And you make any comment about anything. This is why we're way too far down this rabbit hole of people being able to, one, be canceled. Thanks to all the social media stuff that we've seen over the last years.
Yeah. And in the you know, in the public eye, it's like any little comment and it's like, oh, no, you can't. You have to apologize. But there's been a lot of cases. Usually it was white, older, white guys saying things. So of course it was okay to go after them. But making comments that I don't think were taken, you know, in context.
I mean, Joe Biden, even though this is like twice I remember in the last maybe it was a year or so for the last one, but he was with that black politician and called him a boy. And this happened within like the last year, if I'm remembering correctly as well. But I do I, I think there was sufficient difference for him to have made that mistake. Yes. And I don't think that's you know, I don't think that's racist.
I don't think that is what that the president was thinking when he said what I don't. Well, but then. Again, for him, it may have been, first of all, given the history. But that wouldn't be the first thing that I. Would now. Run out on to and say, even though I don't like Joe Biden, it's like, let's just be fair. Yeah. Just like Morgan Whalen, the country artist who was using the N-word with his buddies. I don't think. That made him racist either. Yeah, he got to move in.
Look at actually the context of things. Mhm. And Don Lemon, you mean he was right on. He's like, well go look it up wherever you want to look it up, Look it up. A woman is not in her prime at 52 or whatever. Nikki Haley. Oh wait a minute. So he was trying to mansplain this. Well, he said, look it up because of the media. That sounds like mansplaining to out, down, down, down, down. It's the. Minute he said it, they Why. Would you ever use that?
Because immediately after he said she wasn't in her prime, they were like, what are you talking about? And he's like, What the fuck do you mean? What am I talking about? I'm just telling you a fact. She's not in her prime. It's nothing against her. It doesn't mean that she can't do the job. Lord knows we don't want a 30 year old or 23 year old president. I don't think. Well, we can't have one. I think there's five. The minimum. I believe it's in the thirties.
Yeah, maybe 32. Which incidentally at the time that 35 was said, which was the minimum age, people typically lived into their late forties or early. Fifties. Yeah that was it. Elder at that point that was somebody that was in the latter half of their life past 35. So what you're saying is if you did the math and you changed that to today. At least Trump's age. Yeah, well, Trump an older.
60 another would probably be you can't be president until you're 60, because I'm guessing the thought was you want somebody that in that office to have a certain amount of life experience and wisdom. Yeah, exactly. And but also not really what I would call Prime. I would call that, you know, the wise old age, not the prime of life, is it for men?
Typically it is financially related, or at least again, related to the ability to maintain a household which could have meant your ability to use firearm in older days, not just your ability to make money, your ability to be a farmer and farm land, your ability to go hunting successfully and provide food. Those things were important for men. They weren't that all important for women?
No. And things have changed a little since then. No. But also back then, it was extremely unusual for some man to get married to a woman who was outside the reproductive age. Because what's the point? It's not it's not a Oh, you just like them younger. It's a matter of like the reason to get married is to start a family. And then once once you do that, you know, that's sort of the majority of your life is lived. Which is why you don't live. A life. A bad rep.
And then start a family, which is kind of what we do now. We we tend to live our lives first. Both men and women. Make some money. Well, make some money. Go have a lot of fun. Go, you know, have a lot of sex. Do things that typically used to be done after you're married and then you kind of get to a point where you're like, Well, I guess I can settle down now. And actually did the family thing.
And I, I certainly followed that path as well when I got there in my late twenties, which is probably not that old these days, but it's certainly much older than what people used to get married out. Yeah, I got married at 25. Okay. So I was just a few years behind you, so. But I'm still married. But you're still married. I know, right? If some people never learn. I know, but. But I think it would have been more like, you know, men were married in their early twenties to women who were teenagers.
Well, right. And this is why I think guys get a bad rap when they what all those old perverts want to go out with the young women. It's like, no, it's it's biologic glee ingrained in our DNA. The main thing in our DNA is keep the line going, procreate and move on. Yep. So in the mail, it's all about looking for a woman that can do that. Now, for women, as they say it is usually while looking for a man that can provide for them. And that's a very sustainability.
Stability and and just financial stability. Yeah, those two things and that's it. But but that's the thing. I mean, we could almost do a whole show on the subject because the, the way that I think people typically expect to pair up and what marriage has become is a lot more of a middle age activity than it ever used to be for like literally the history of people. Like, people want to delay that marriage until much later in life.
Women want to have kids in their forties, which, you know, there's a lot of literature out there saying just how much riskier that is, how much more expensive that is. Yeah. Which is why we have a lot of kids who can't comprehend reading in math because their brains are mush, because they they don't have the right DNA. You don't want to be that. Like, I. Wouldn't say that that far, Mr. Eugenicists, but I'll go part of the way there for sure.
I think that there's at the very least, if a lot of people are delaying and by people I mean women having kids until their forties, there are fewer kids, they are going to be born because you may have one, you may possibly have two, but you're probably not going to have three. If you start in your forties. Right now. You may not have three if you start in your thirties. Now the clock ends, the clock runs out.
Yeah, that's like 31. It's why you decide you want to keep trading them in every few years for a new year. Your model. Well and remember too that historically a I don't know what the percentage as I'm sure is going to be looked up but as some percentage of women, they would die in childbirth. So that, you know, that's not a that's not something that historically was guaranteed to be survived through. Right. Medical sciences helped with that.
Yeah. But it still doesn't change the fact that we all have our primes. Physically. And there's no denying that. Now, I don't know. The interesting thing was, you know, on the heels of all of this was Joe Biden had his yearly physical and the doctors like, oh, he's a vibrant 81. I want to know who else this doctor sees. Because if Joe Biden is a vibrant 80, I guess I guess Dick Van Dike was just on the masked singer at 97 years old. Now that is vibrant.
Yeah. Joe Biden is not vibrant, but the one thing missing people have pointed out from the physical no mental acuity test. Why is that? It's part of it. Why not? Where's the mental acuity test, Joey? Well, absolutely. And you know, we're talking about average things right across the board, not necessarily specifically about any individual. So while I think you can also say that in general that Don Lemon statements totally make sense.
Yeah, Maybe somebody, you know, is a very late developer and really got into their prime in their fifties, that could happen as well. It would be a rarity. Mm hmm. But he's making the statement, as we do with everything. It's like, well, they're science says, Yeah. And he's absolutely right. I just didn't understand how it made it sexist. Unless you specifically say that men the same age as Nikki Haley, well, they're vibrant and they're in their prime. But her? No, because she's a woman.
It had nothing to do with being a woman. I mean, again, 52 exactly my age. And I. You're at your age, so I didn't know that was your real age. So it's 152. But sure, you got to drop the one. But we all know being this age that things are different. Our body does not work the same way they did 20 years ago. Mm hmm. Mm. No, you can deny that. Now, if you're Tom Brady, maybe you get a little bit of a leeway and maybe he's in his prime until he's 60. I don't know.
I mean, of course he's drinking the blood of virgins or something like that. So that's a little bit different, too. But this there's no question that we have the prime ages and then you're on the downwards. If you live long enough, you're on the downward slide, and that's just the way it is. So the fact that they're trying to make this a sexist thing I think is hilarious. Again, because he is a gay black man. It's like that. He used to be Teflon. Now you're seeing how much
this overheated window has moved, which is, you know. If. No know, there was the the case that was made. A. Baby or two or three. I don't remember how long Adam Curry and Mo have been doing the MO facts podcast. Because I'm not sure how many. This is, but that was early on in the run. It was talked about that the maleness over, you know, was was was looked at higher on the scale than the blackness.
And that was that they predicted this kind of shit entirely because it was going to be like it's not going to matter that you're black if you're a man. The toxic masculinity is going to get you so oh, because you're the minority not going to help anymore because you're gay and you're black. Oh no, you're a man, so you're bad. It doesn't matter what else you are. It's never been clearer. Yeah, Yeah. It's a it's interesting to watch it happen.
It is somewhat predictable or predicted, I think, by a few folks, but there's definitely more fracturing happening, let's put it that way, because the whole alphabet, the LGBTQ, you know, plus minus apostrophe, etc., that whole thing, the thing way more infighting every year, like it seems like every year there are more people that are unhappy with others in that group.
So it's well, it's hilarious because they don't identify it was always, you know, the straight guys are horrible because they can't identify with the gay guy. Well, now the gay guys are like trans guys. Holy shit, I'm not into it. No. And it's like it's hilarious to to see how far this is going, but it's also very detrimental to society as a whole because you keep trying to do these carve outs like, well, we have to give special preferential treatment to these folks because they're black.
Oh, and these folks because they're trans and these folks, it's like no treat everybody equally. Yeah, yeah, I like it. And I thought that's kind of where we were in the eighties, but I did too. I don't know. It's it it seems like things are they keep shifting and shifting and shifting. So we'll see what happens. Hey, I've been saying for years, do your homework and go read the Weather Underground manifestos from the early seventies.
Bill Ayers, Bernadette Dawn, I think Ayres was is the name on the the. Manifestos. And you read that well the way we're going to do this and this was the group that bombed the Pentagon. I mean this is the hilarity of another building, but this is the hilarity of everybody right now, including all of the talking heads on the news, saying January six was the biggest threat to our democracy since the Civil War. Bullshit.
We had people literally bombing the fucking Pentagon that were radical leftist, but you know, they were radical leftist and we like the radical leftist, so we can't talk about that right now. Well, I think there was there was coverage of Bill Ayers back back in the days. Well, I wouldn't quite say that it was not covered at all. It was covered when it was happening. But today, yeah, the way they look at Bill Ayers is like, oh, he's a great hero. He's a professor now.
Whatever university here in Chicago, he was Barack Obama. He hosted Barack Obama's coming out party, not gay for his political. And I think that's because most of the people that are alive right now were not alive to witness the ceremonies when we didn't have a lot more conflict between the population and the government and a lot of it motivated for good reasons, but not necessarily good methods.
But, you know, I mean, there is a reason that we have the saying that history repeats itself or if if at least rhymes or if it doesn't repeat itself is because there is a lot of generation all kind of thinking. Well, yeah, you miss out on what's happened in the past, you get duped. But this was a group that literally bombed the Pentagon and other buildings back in the day.
And they realized when that wasn't effective, they realized that the violence route wasn't going to get them what they wanted. So they came up with a manifesto that was a long term plan on how they were going to bring in. Their goal has always been to bring Marxism to the United States. How do we get rid of this system that we've got and replace it with Marxism and the long term plan? If you go read this, shows you that, well, there's a few things you need to do.
They mentioned taking over the school systems, so they got to get their people in as teachers. And I think that's happened pretty successfully. They wanted to get their people into the news media, which again, I think overall that has been very successful. And the main thing, which is what you brought up just a few minutes ago, was we need the fracture. We need to have the rich fighting with the poor, we need the blacks fighting with the whites, we need the cops fighting with everybody else.
And that's the kind of stuff that gets classified as conspiracy theory. Even though it's right there in black and white and written by a guy that is friends with the first black president.
Unless you think Bill Clinton was the first black president, which some people do, but he's friends with Barack Obama and wrote this and he is never you know, this is the other thing when you talk about the cancel culture of today, I don't remember how recent, but there were some fairly recent interviews with Bill Ayers. Again, the guy behind bombing places. And they're like, well, you know, do you you know, do you feel bad? Do you have any remorse for that? No. No, not at all.
And it's like, wait, how does this happen? Yeah, it happens because people are stupid and they don't pay attention and they don't think this stuff is being done for a reason. I mean, you go back to the eighties, wouldn't go push a little further than that. Once Barack Obama was elected. I think a lot of people thought we've finally broken that glass ceiling and this was like finishing a marathon that we got through that tape and now we're okay. We're good.
But things got immensely worse immediately after that. And it's like if you don't think that's intentional, if you don't think things are being done, if you don't think things are being used, you know, we had the Rodney King thing. Of course you had the George Floyd death. It's like if you don't think those things were politicized and used by groups that were trying to do nothing but cause more damage, you're naive.
Yeah, but even if there is an actual element of, you know, like, how the fuck is this happening? Because Rodney King, it the incident itself was absolutely horrific and it pointed to the way that the police were conduct themselves at least a portion of the police in California at the time. The riots that followed destroyed way more property and, you know, probably set the city back quite a ways. But I don't know. I mean, like, can you have one without the other? Can you?
Then you have incidences where police or other governmental bodies, officials behave horribly and then be able to fix them without having a big push back in the other direction? I don't know. Well, I think you can if you look at things logically, like if a white cop kills a black guy, you don't blame every cop. I mean, like anything else, you have to deal with the criminal offense and the person that committed it, just like it's insane. And you're seeing this right now in New York.
And I think it was Los Angeles where the stats came out, where after they changed the law, like they just changed here in Illinois to give you the no bail, how much more violent crime there's been. It's like, well, you see, here's the problem. You're not dealing with the criminal going, hey, you're a criminal, but you're black. So we're not going to hold you on bail because we can't do that because that's racist.
Well, that leads to more crime because you're not dealing with the criminal who committed the offense. I don't care what color somebody is. They commit a crime with the gun. You put them in jail. And I've always thought that was the answer to all of the gun crime, gun violence thing is, the minute somebody commits a crime with a gun, it should be a mandatory 1020 year sentence. I don't care if it's even you went in and robbed somebody of five bucks.
If you did it with a gun in your convicted mandatory jail time. Yep. Because then there's less gun crimes. Yeah. But no. It's yeah, I mean, it shouldn't matter what the sex or the race of the person that's committing the crime is, it should be handled exactly the same way. And the statistics of the the crimes are used to then create sort of, I guess, goals that it seems crazy to even say that way.
But this idea that, well, there there are too many black men that seem to be given sentences, therefore we should reduce that number. Well, I guess I can see a way to rationalize that by saying that only black men are being picked up and then everybody else, women, white men, Asian men, etc., they're all just, you know, not really being picked up for doing the same crimes.
But in this day and age where everybody has a ring doorbell and you can see videos from multiple angles of virtually every police related incident lately, which is I've been posting them on and both now gender, social and on Twitter quite a bit where we have incidents of of police brutality that just are completely inexcusable and they're happening quite frequently, but also posting incidents of just violent crime that seems to be popping up everywhere,
mostly focusing on larger cities like New York and L.A. or San Francisco, but not exclusive to those cities either. I think very now people seem to be very quick on the draw to start throwing fists around, but police are very quick to start throwing fists and boots around. And I don't like this. This is it feels like we're moving in the wrong direction. Right. And the cameras are great. And I think if you're going to be a cop, that's part of the deal is you wear a body cam. Yeah.
And for their own protection, it's like the cops. Anybody that is a good cop should love having that technology because it means if they do their job correctly, they are not going to get screwed. Yeah, you know, if you can show on that body camera that somebody else took a shot at you and then you shoot them, well, then you're in the right. There's no question about it. If they shoot first, you get to shoot back. Uh huh, uh huh.
But this concept of yeah, we have to statistically look at who we're picking up. We may have talked about it on the show. I talked about it somewhere. I mean, was it unrelenting? Was it planted? So many podcasts are. Dropping all bad. Was it random thoughts? It's always hard to know. But when Chicago changed the law, I think it was Cook County. I don't think it was a state law. But when they changed the law in Chicago.
MM. And came out and said, if you're under the age of 18, we will not charge you as an adult for carjacking. You know what happened? Carjacking, more carjacking since birth and. It was all 16, 15 year olds. And it's like, well, and then some asshole alderman here was like, well, this is obviously the case of kids playing too many video games like Grand Theft Auto Blame. Something else for It's.
Like, though, you change the law and said if you're under 18, you're not going to be tried as an adult. And they're like, Well, fuck then this seems like a lot more fun. And they this is exactly what happens. And then they do. They blame something else and then they go after whatever, you know, whatever their current political target is. But there's no question in my mind why the carjackings went up.
It's the same reason why all of these violent crimes are going up the minute somebody gets caught. I mean, you could hit somebody in the head with a brick in New York. They bring you in, they snap your picture and they say, okay, leave. But well, of course, why not go hit somebody else in the head with a brick? Well, and I'm I don't think anyone's even bothering to do anything about you. See, all these videos are like a group of 4 to 10 people going into a store with large bags. Right.
Not really even wearing masks, just kind of loading up on product, tossing whatever the bag the store is selling into the bags on the market up front, and nobody does anything about it whatsoever. They're not always walking. I've seen guys do it on their bike. They bring their bike into. Fuckin. Walgreens. They go down whatever aisle they want, they fill their empty bag and they ride out. Yeah. Like, damn, it's this is unsustainable because the net effect of that is going to be a store closures.
I want to tell them that. That entire area is no longer serviced by that store. It is happening here in Chicago. There was a I think a Whole Foods in Inglewood here in Chicago, which is a very dangerous neighborhood. Or maybe it was an Aldi. Either way, they opened up the store to great fanfare after a year or two, whatever it lasted. There were so many robberies. They're like, Well, we're losing money here, so we're closing down.
And then of course, everybody's like, Oh, what a horrible business. It's like, No, no, no, it ain't no horrible business when they are losing money at a location because crime is running so rampant. You don't deserve a grocery store if crime is running that rampant in your neighborhood because you have the ability at some point to stand up and do something about it.
Yeah. It's like you can't blame the store if they're losing money to go well, where just I mean, there were I think it was Walgreens like, well, we're just going to leave San Francisco. Yeah, exactly. Completely. And I remember this even just well, decades ago. I remember when there was an area in Minneapolis that there was a McDonald's in and it got torched. They rebuilt. And, you know, I don't know how long it takes, maybe half a year or something reopened.
And then within within like six months, it got torched again. And they're like and at that point, they're like, we're no longer allowing McDonald's franchises to be in this area. And neighborhood lost. Right. And then their mass graduations. Yes. It's like, I just don't get it. It just like a lot of the Black Lives Matter George Floyd riots. I mean, the irony is most of the areas that got torched and or destroyed were black neighborhoods. Yeah, it's like, what sense does this really make?
Who is being hurt when all this comes to fruition? While you're in Chicago? You tell me. Well, not me. I'm outside of Chicago now. Now you say you're outside. Usually you're saying you're in Chicago. So I say just from coming from just outside of. Chicago's South Side. There you go. I'm even outside. Just outside of Crook County. My parents still live in Crook County. Oh. I love that name. By the way. It is. It's. Well, it's so apropos. Right? It's it's right to the point.
I went far enough south to where it changed over. And I'm like, okay, we can live here, like right over the border. And I really what I should have done was gone just over the border into Indiana because things were the better, even better because I could be in on the border. I would probably pick either the Iowa border or the what's the south border? Tennessee old Tennessee's down there. Well, Tennessee, there was a time, maybe 15 years ago I was down looking for a house in Nashville.
The things have changed, man. They have gotten Nashville is just as bad as Chirac now. They mean the pricing and everything. It's getting there. No, Nashville has gotten very, very, very expensive. We there are still places you can go, but you know, if you got to be a podcaster, if you're going to do the YouTube videos, what you want is broadband and like farmland, that's all you really need. Well, that's literally yeah, that's exactly what I'm looking for.
Or at least, you know, starting to look for. Yeah, because there's I've been living in Austin for over a decade and while it was had plenty of pluses initially, I'm not really utilizing any of those pluses since COVID maybe in a little before COVID. Frankly, you know, I used to have a boat don't bother anymore. I used to have a jet ski, don't have jet ski anymore. I used to go out to bars like three or four nights a week. Don't do that at all anymore. Now, you haven't had a drink in over a year.
I haven't had a drink in over a year. Yeah So like, a lot of the benefits are lost and they're not really benefits. I mean, they are to other people that are still doing those things obviously just stopped me anymore. Well, if you're able kicking alt country fan, then you're in the perfect place. But I don't think that's your style of music. That's not really no, I'm not really listening to a whole lot of live or recorded stuff these days, so I don't know. I, I think.
I think you're absolutely right. Like a nice little out of the way farm ish kind of thing. I mean, I don't know if I actually need a whole full blown farm, but certainly something with a little more land to maybe shoot some guns and throw some veggies on. And then what you would want is in high. Speed Internet for. Sure, high speed Internet in underground bunker, at least 30, 40 feet under the earth that you could broadcast from. Yeah, that would be absolutely perfect.
I mean, back in the day, I remember it was probably like in the eighties and nineties when you started seeing the photos of the retrofitted missile silos that people were living in Die Those. Yeah, it was like, that's awesome. I mean, of course I hate. Yeah, no windows, but. Yeah, I hate the heat, but this is it. I mean, back then we didn't have the technology. We have now. Now you get the right displays, you put them up and it looks just like, Oh yeah. Yeah. Weren't you going to do that?
Are you still planning on doing that? I thought about I'm still considering it. I mean, it's crazy, but it would be nice just to be able to have instead of posters on the wall. Yeah, but some monitors make it and like, it's windows. And that would be cool. Be able to look out. Well, that's the. Whole. Concept of that Disney hotel that's doing shitty. Now go figure.
That whole Star Wars thing, which is instead of having windows outside, it's they it looks like you're flying through space, which I think is a really cool idea to do it. Like simulating Star Trek or Star Wars, I guess. Yes. And It's like you said, the main thing is you could have a huge building without windows because you don't have to worry about any of that. Now. You could be multiple and live on their ground, right?
See Brooklyn, just as I could have Taylor Swift videos playing on every monitor throughout the house. That would be perfect. You probably would. Be like, Look, Taylor Swift right outside my window and I can't get out the. Window. Yeah, and she likes it that way. I know that. Well, yeah, there's a restraining order and all sorts of. Things, so. I'm not supposed to even mention it to be. To be honest, we. Could just put that out right of the of the show.
Does the restraining order also require you to buy all her products? Yeah. At least 14. Does. I thought so. I thought that was the case. Now, at least. 14 different versions of everything. I mean, I was kind of Pesca's, although they didn't email it out, which has happened on a few of these. Like when you had you order me some stuff, they they didn't send it out to the mailing list. They came out with another special Heart-Shaped album on Valentine's Day. And of course I was in the hospital.
So, I mean, come on, Taylor, can you send me the album? It was sold out, like by the time they figure it out, they had it. And this is how this stuff goes up. The there is a Taylor Swift release on Record Store Day as well, which is April 23rd. This year. Yeah. And I've never gone to stand in line for a record Thursday because it really there's only ever been like one or so album coming out and I'm like, I'm not going up. I'm not going to waste my time.
But this on April 23rd, there's a Taylor Swift album, there is a Ted Nugent from the Vault album coming out, which you can only get on Record Store Day. Of course, there's a Frank Turner album. There's a Van Halen live set coming out. There's like five or six different things that I'm like, Oh, I would I would buy that. So I might. Have to go wait in line, even though that's a real pain in the ass. But at least it's April, not like November, so the weather shouldn't be too bad.
But that's the whole concept there. It's kind of like the Taylor Swift thing where it's like we have a very limited supply and you know, it's going to sell out quick. And this is how they get. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we've had some fun topics here. How's your health, by the way? Sorry, was just coughing. Right. I really I feel alive.
You know, I muted at the Well, it was great because last Friday, I mean I shouldn't I should have fucking knocked on water something like we did the show and I was like, yeah, I just got off that, I got off that fish oil and I've been doing this, I've been digging my electrolytes, which I've got my electrolytes here. And I'm like, Everything's been good. And then Saturday, yeah, not so much.
It was, I don't know what sets these things off or not, but it was like Saturday night I made things are doing good and I'm like, Well, you haven't made popcorn in a while. So I made in my my little whatever it is, the, the machine that you put some oil at the bottom and there's a little rod that spins around to keep it going. And I threw some coconut oil in there, which maybe was the problem, although, you know, allegedly coconut oil supposed to be fairly healthy as opposed to some other oils.
That's what we've been told for a while now. I think. So I took some coconut oil, I took some kernels, made a little bit of popcorn, had the popcorn. And like an hour later, the heart like I thought, I'm like, well, that doesn't seem right. And, you know, I assumed because the Apple Watch, while they're smart, they're not super smart. Mm hmm. The Apple Watch was showing it. To be fair, they do, I think, legally say that the reading shows possible signs of atrial fibrillation. Mm hmm.
So I thought that's what was going on again, because I had AFib, without a doubt. I mean, the only time I can guarantee you I had. It was. After gallbladder surgery where I, like, puked a lot afterwards because me and anesthesia don't always go well together. Yeah. And it went into AFib and they gave me whatever medication it was and released me the next day and everything was fine. Now, these other things that I've been having at home now that I was like, Well, okay, I'll give it a day or two.
Hopefully it'll just resolve on its own. And it was going in and out. I mean, there were times I could do a 32nd EKG on the phone. It was like, everything's great sinus rhythm. And then, you know, the next 30 seconds was all over the place. So I finally went, okay, on Valentine's Day, I was trying to give the wife an experience on the morning. I'm like, You know what?
I think maybe we should just go in to the E.R., because I was under the impression that if, you know, if it's AFib, they could just give you something, reset it and send you on your way. So we went in and I will say our local hospital out here, because it's outside of Iraq, and I guess we don't have a lot of gunshot wounds or anything here.
I walked into the E.R. at like eight in the morning, maybe 830 that was getting an EKG done within 3 minutes of walking in the front door, which I was like, this is this is good service. I like this. And the end result being they took some blood, of course, with a lot of blood. And they did some X-rays and put me on the monitor sitting there and the E.R. doctors like it's not A-fib. It was just a bunch of extra heartbeats, which are the what they call them packs. You know.
Like premature arterial. So the heart beating normally the faster I'm confused. It is sinus rhythm. Mm. And it's having extra beats that are coming in outside of the rhythm. And it could be one, it could be two. There were times it was like five or six. So rather than just beating. One one. One it was like one, two, three, four. Five, one. Two, three. And it just. Oh that's not good. I know. But I mean, the nice thing was it wasn't the heart was not fibrillation.
So since the heart was actually clearing out the blood, this was not a major stroke. Or at least damaging the heart. Yeah, cause a lot of people don't realize that with AFib, you're actually damaging the heart with that. Yes. Because it's not beating properly blood clots can form all sorts of stuff. And I know I mean, it's hard to remember and I don't even think there was any real paperwork at the time when I was seven years old.
I remember getting something very similar to these sensations and it would almost make me pass out. Of course, it could just be that I'm fucking tall and I had growth spurts. The nurse that I had said that her brother, who she's like, Oh, she's like, What do you do? I'm a podcaster. She's all my brother does twitch and he's seven foot two and I'm like, Holy fuck. Oh, that's really tall. So maybe he wouldn't be hard to find. How many seven foot two guys on Twitch would? Probably not many.
Be, but she said he used to have growth spurts that were so fast he would just pass out because his body couldn't handle. These is what. Was going on. I'm like, Well, that's okay. That makes a certain amount of sense. But I spent like 12 days in the hospital when I was seven, and it was it was something very similar because the doctors were perplexed, meaning that if I went in and said, Hey, I don't feel good, they would run an EKG. Like I was just saying and oh, this is fine.
Yeah. And then out of nowhere it kicks in and then it goes away and then it kicks in and then it goes away. You know, unfortunately, this last few times that I've had this, it took days for it to to go away. But, you know, so it's good and bad knowing that it's not AFib, but it is still something. And well, you know, all doctors, you know, when you're getting old and while I've been told I need to lose weight, which I have been. Yes. This time. Because do. Right.
The cardiologist is like I can't even really tell you that this is because of your weight. He's like, I it's. Because of your height, right? It's like this is it. It's like, dude, this is just what you have. And while there may be a trigger and you know well, of course, try to determine that he's like, this could just be the road that you're starting down because you're so tall and getting older.
And I just saw I mean, it was this morning Kareem Abdul Jabbar, his latest thing is trying to bring light shedding light on AFib because he's got AFib because he's. Alive. Still. Yeah, believe it or not, which he's in the seventies. You don't that's the other thing. You know, you don't see a lot of really old, tall guys.
No you don't see a lot of like NBA guys that are like in their eighties. And the reason is because if you're tall, you're probably going to have heart issues, which I told that to Adam before the show. And he's just like, well, I'm like, Yeah, but just get that checked out. I mean, if you feel anything, you know, the earlier you they can get you on something to make sure you're not damaging the heart, which is the main thing. Yeah. So it'll be an interesting thing to go down.
They put me on a drug that is an anti is as aromatic. I can't say that for some reason that's a arrhythmia. So it's a rhythm and enhancing drug. I guess they keep your heart in a. Rhythm. And but the would you go and read about this drug I mean that could give you a heart attack. Just reading about the drug. Oh, yeah, I it's nothing comes without even I would say nothing comes without major side effects these days. Right. So you got to kind of do the do the math.
And to be fair, I'm like, you know, it probably makes sense because the heart was going so haywire, even though it it's a very weird thing when the response is like, yeah, but this is really more benign. It's not really dangerous. And you're like, But I can't sleep because the heart's like. The. And it's like, well, then what? You know?
And it's like it is a stress cause or, you know, maybe with enough time you can convince yourself that, hey, what's happening is perfectly normal and I shouldn't be stressed out about it. But I think that takes a while. Well, if you were tired now, if I'm sure you'd fall asleep. Well, this is true. Which is, you know, that's also a bit this is the hilarity of all of this, which is, well, you know, it could be triggered by stress. Well, I'm stressed. I'm stressed because it's bed triggered.
Right. You know, the same thing, right? The lack of sleep can cause it. Well, I can't sleep because I've been triggered and I'm under stress. Right. And there's only a certain amount of things that one can control. And I guess it's a day by day thing. And, you know, luckily, I mean, there's only been a couple of times during the podcast here, I felt it. But it's it comes and goes within a second or two now rather than something that's going to stick around for minutes or hours or days now.
Well, it's once again. So also we're talking about downtime on the world. Also my out of the loop on. The government possibly shooting down somebody's Raspberry Pi balloon. Over. Oh, yeah. Yes or no. So I didn't talk about that. In fact, on the livestream yesterday on YouTube, Splash at Drift, guess it was a does seem very, very likely that the balloon that was shot down was actually a hobbyist balloon. Yeah. From some group right here in Illinois. Uh huh, exactly.
And this is all because they saw one Chinese balloon and then, oh, fuck all balloons. Yeah. At this point, I think that any non US governmental balloons are in mortal danger. Yes. From like $40,000 missiles. There are more there being. More I but I guess they're more than that. But, but the other part that I thought was hilarious was that they, they had used four missiles to shoot down three balloons. That that means one of them missed. Yes. Oh yeah.
One of them missed a new fell in the ocean or water somewhere, which I don't know if that's dangerous or what. I mean not good now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know. Yeah. And it's like when you start looking, you know, there's a lot of hobbyists, you know, this was the whole thing. Even with the Chinese balloon. Mm hmm. Because they were like, well, of course, the, you know, China had control. And I'm like, wait, this is an unmanned balloon with some sensors on it?
Yeah. How do you know they had any control? I mean, all you can do in a balloon is bring it up or down. You don't get to choose the direction it goes in. Yeah, but that's they there. That's how they do kind of steer it is by how high up it is. Now that they held the. Wind patterns. Right. Well, that's the question though, with that balloon, was there something involved that let it adjust how high it was? You know, I don't know anything. The technology of the balloon.
I also don't know exactly how much information you can gather by just flying something that high over an area like, well, obviously, we're going to get some really top secret information That's I can't really I mean, how much can you really glean from data from a plane, which is. If you have a camera, you can glean quite a bit? Well, you can. Yeah, but all that stuff's out there. I think we'll go to Google Earth and look at, you know, you.
Look at the time, but the satellites that are providing this from Google Earth are there's 300 kilometers plus. Yeah, but. We hardly. Brand out on a tidal list, you know, from the whatever. Allegedly. So just think of how good the quality is from balloon. About the same. Can. Be a little better. Yeah. I mean your payloads a lot lighter, but you're like, closer to the ground as well. But what.
And really and that's assuming that you're using visual stuff which it may not be maybe radar or something else. Could be picking up radio waves. Well, this is the other thing with the drones and all of this kind of stuff. It's like, well, you know, that it's not hard to launch these kind of things over any sensitive area. Yeah, they're probably not going to be what they were talking about. On now the NASCAR race last night. Yeah, NASCAR's back.
I'm glad because I got rid of baseball and at least now I have something to pay attention to a little bit in the sporting world. But they were talking about one of the new cameras that they installed. In the car. And they were like, I couldn't even believe how small it was. And the amount of visual data that it could send back. And we know this from even the, you know, crappy little webcams and stuff. What do you use in like a Logitech webcam or something now?
Yeah. I mean, you see how small that is. It's like how hard would it be to put that in a drone and fly it around your house? You would never even see it unless you heard. Well, the DGA or drones, I mean, they've got a variety of them, but the they've got some pretty damn small ones, quite a bit smaller in Malaysia. Yes. Oh yeah. The original ones you the one you would probably see and you would hear them because they're I guess, you know, they're getting smaller, they're getting quieter.
They are getting quieter. So there's a couple of things. First of all, like the balloons don't have to necessarily spy either. They could be jamming. That's another use that you could do from a balloon. But as far as the drones, I watched a video recently that talked about a different type of propeller blade. It looks more like a spiral. You've probably seen like some of these spiral windmills, but they don't have blades. They have spirals. Let's spin.
So it doesn't matter what direction the wind's coming from. It spins in the same direction. That's I haven't seen that. But that's a. Cool I've never seen that. Yeah. They just kind of looked like a metal spiral that's more tall than it is wide. Like, okay, here's something you've seen is the vents on the top of houses That's been recent. Yes. Oh, yeah. Okay. Really? So somewhat looking like that.
They have propeller blades, so they look more like veins that are twisted rather than your traditional propeller shape, which looks like a wing rotating around an axis. And apparently these things are super quiet. Like, I mean, you could still hear when if you're standing a still, but there easily like ten times quieter than the normal propeller blade on a drone. So it makes drones way way quieter. And that is the case for who cares about a balloon that's that high?
I mean, I just I mean, I. Think for you, I care. I mean, I'm not going to just dismiss and say, yeah, it doesn't matter what's flying up there. That's that's roughly the altitude where we used to fly our our spy planes. The Oh, right. That's our civilian ones. The ones that could stay in the air for days. I don't think they could stay in the air for day. Well yeah. With refueling and stuff. Yeah. But yes they, they didn't, you know, they did.
I mean I understand there's a limitation with with the fuel, but you're right. I get it. There's, there's all sorts of spy stuff going on. I just like that they tried to politicize this immediately which was well, it was happening under the previous administration, but they didn't notice. It's like really? And I think there's some truth to that, too. I just don't think it was a big deal. The other thing is right. Yeah. We're not spying on anybody. Yeah, exactly.
God forbid. The U.S. spy. Oh, my God. I have a I have a video, and I don't think I posted it. I'll probably stick it on our agenda. And and Twitter, that is a 3D animation of the earth that has little pin marks in every location that there are currently more than 1000 US troops. There's there's probably a 200,000 marks like that around the globe. Oh, yeah. It's hard to find a country where the US does not have a presence of at least a thousand troops.
If it is a if it is a friendly country, most likely we got somebody there. Huh? I mean, they might be hanging. Out in a joint, they might. Be called advisors, they may be called trainers. They might be whatever you want to call them. But these are, you know, American enlisted and commissioned guys with guns in whatever capacity you want to you want to say they're. IB These are armed Americans outside of the border of America.
You know, but soon it'll just be our chat going up against another countries chat and then they can battle to the death. Yes the jet the battle of the jet jeeps. Yeah. I mean obviously I've I've been following from the news standpoint on this stuff. I think Chad tipped the current version as some you know, has some uses. I like Nivea, the search engine that uses air to give you more human style answers.
The bigger the best part of that is that instead of the Google answer, which is usually an advertisement for somebody like that, that's the default thing that the Google presents as like, Oh, would you like to go to this website and buy some crap? At least Nivea just doesn't do that. It gives you links to actual locations.
But the thing I think while we can make fun of it and everything else and talk about how it's politicized and, that it's really focused on a very sort of typical, let's just say, San Francisco mindset in its answers. Like that's the filter it's going through. It's it's still just very much a work in progress. It's a it's a demo. Oh, yeah. And as newer versions come out, I have full confidence that there will be, you know, conservative or conservative chat. Oh, right.
Because they're already showing with the bias that the thing has because of where it's grabbing its data from. Well, it's beyond that. It's actually a filter. Like they literally have filters to prevent it. Like after it finds the answers, they have filters to prevent it from doing things that they could get in trouble for. Well, I know there was something where somebody typed in, right. Something a nice poem about Donald Trump or something. And it was like, I can't do that. Yeah, yeah.
I and I've I've done that as well and that those are. You wrote a nice but those are Donald Trump. I've asked you to do that. Yeah I did that live on one of the streams that we do. And it's like, I don't want to be political. And then you're like, Write a nice poem about Nancy Pelosi. And it does. It's amazing this. Clearly that's not political. Yeah. Yeah. There's there's a very definite bias that's in there. But the idea with the filters is I could ask it, how do I make nitroglycerin?
How do I make your error, like, you know, fertilizer stuff, whatever you on call. I don't I make homemade drugs of any kind. And it there's no reason that Chad Gibney can just give you the answer like it knows, right? It's got access to all that data. It wouldn't care whether something is a secret formula or not. You could probably ask it what is the the secret formula of Coca-Cola?
And it would tell you exactly how to make something taste like Coca-Cola. So So there are human imposed filters on this collection of data collection of knowledge that we have that are really meant for legal. And, yeah, you know, just sort of corporate protection reasons, but into once you create the filter, once that filter exists and we're people are human, it's really it's hard to not let your politics leak into it as well. Oh, no doubt.
Because you don't want people talking about certain events. In fact, on YouTube, you know, there's still things that can't be mentioned that, oh, what about. YouTube where you are right now? Exactly. Exactly. Now, I don't talk about those topics the whole lot. They pop up occasionally, but generally not not really topics, vaccine things related to a variety of medical conditions. Yes. That the CDC and everybody else has come out with revised statements, let's just say.
And no, they're still exactly where they were. The Lancet just had a thing that having COVID is way more way more preventative and catching it again. That any MRSA vaccine. Yeah, well, I mean, Fauci initially said that as well before he changed as well. So it is arm twisted, right? Yeah. The point that there are there are politics involved in all this stuff. And fortunately, if humans make it, it probably will include some politics.
And it just so happens that a lot of this tech is made in a place that people that have a certain political bent to the left tend to live, which is San Francisco now, or often these days, frankly, because even though we're in Texas, in Austin, Austin really is like a little slice of California. So there there is a very. I know. Well, hey, you live outside of Iraq. I live inside of Austin. So this is why I'm outside. We're actually I got it ready or I got to get outside as well. I got out.
We all need to go outside, man. That's that's the bottom line. You got to walk at least 45 minutes a day. That's what Adam Curry told you. He did? Yeah. I can't believe. He said that right on the show. How dare he? How dare he give the. And tell me what to do. Gene, get out. Walk, buddy. Get out and walk, man. Yeah. I love the You're welcome any time, but just wait at least a month. I just talk to you for 2 hours. Yeah. And you think he's kidding? Exactly.
So I didn't think he was getting it all, huh? Uh huh. My favorite part of the. Cancelo trip I had planned to get out there. I literally canceled last minute just because I had some stuff come up that couldn't be. I mean, to be fair, the Adam Curry interview that you did on the Griff Caste channel on YouTube was the only good thing I've ever seen on that channel so far. Oh, it's. I'll keep looking. Well, that could be because you're not watching the channel.
No, I have. It's Roku. It's on my Roku. And I feel good. That. At the one time I turned it on and my wife was starting to like, fall asleep and of course you were on because you're always, always live, it seems. I'm always like, Yeah, you know. I turned it on, was watching for like 3 minutes. She, like, opens her eyes. She's like, What kind of shit is this?
And I'm like, That's Jean. Oh, that was like, That's the guy you've been talking to this whole time that I never listened to because I never listened to your podcast. Well, yeah, she's not going to listen to my podcast. There's no question about it. It's definitely not going to listen to mine or my video stuff either. I'm sure the. Adam Curry interview was interesting because you took it in different places because you're not asking these.
I mean, there were some of the stuff because you have to get in the podcasting 2.0 yeah, and all of that stuff. But my favorite was I got to be trolling you along because I was just still freaking exhausted. That was the first day on the new medication. I was told Ben Rose over a grumpy old bad subscribe, just too tired to do the show. And then I saw while you were doing The Godfather interview, I'm like, Wow, this is like years in the making. So I yeah, I'm. Pretty close to it.
I mean, it was about a year ago that I asked them to be on and, you know, the time available a year later. So I tuned into the YouTubes and I'm like, I made a little troll along. I don't get to troll a lot. Yeah, you were. I try to ignore you, but I definitely saw the trolling happening. Well, here's the thing, because anybody watching you right now, they see you. Your big headphones on, you got the glasses on. So I can't see your eye at all. You're very close to the microphone.
But I was watching as I headed full screen and I was watching pretty closely all. Scream, Jesus, you pervert. And one of the screens, I got three of them. Okay. All right. And, you know, I would type in whatever quip I was a little insult I was trying to throw in there, and I could just see the hint of a smile on your face. It's like, Yeah, fucking. Asshole. It was supposed. To like this. But that's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. Everybody knows you're an asshole. There's no two ways about that.
I mean, video, audio, it's. That's not a secret. It's like I will. Remember that. The desired effect. There was no question about it now, huh? I don't keep you on your toes. You. You get to be very docile, you know, you're like, do low end. But I get pretty chill generally. I'm pretty sure unless I'm, you know, really excited about some topic. We got to get to that little that little jolt and that gets you going. Mm hmm. Yeah, that was great. I mean, I know you're stopping. Yeah.
We've got to get you a little jolt and see what happens. The art starts. Go nuts. What happens? We got to get you back to the troll room. I know you've been perma banned there. Perma ban years ago. I mean, I. It's a harsh punishment. I recognize that, you know, I don't know what I did wrong, but I'm sure that there must have been really bad. Well, I rarely. I'm sorry. I just got ice in my mouth.
Mm. I rarely hear from Adam Curry, but after the perma ban thing, I got a message from him that said, Great idea. Keep Gene out of the troll room. So I just got to keep you fully out. And that's been blessed now. So that's all good. But it was a good interview. People should check that out and it's fun to troll along. It is. I don't get a chance to do it all that often and it's like you're just trying to push the buttons. And that's it.
I thought it was funny when Adam's like, Well, this is, you know, a great way. He's mentioned that in the past. They have a clip now. Our buddy Fletcher over at Hog Story, when Adam did his show way earlier than he did your show, he asked them, like, hey, if you had to pick. Well, no, maybe I can. Think of got this. It's even. Better, I guess if you can. All. You can all hear it.
Because Fletcher asked him a question about, hey, if you had to pick you had to pick a co-host, which person would you pay? Equity podcast drops. You got so many podcast drops. I tell you. You do too many podcasts. That's why do you think so? Yeah, people tell me I did too many. But you really did too many. No, I think I don't know. Too many. Up to like 14 now. 15. It seems like it. It does seem like it that they just never end.
I kind of figured, you know, I would do a different podcast every day and see if any of them stick. So far I'm not too sure. But here's the here's the clip here. If you had to pick a co-host for a new show, would it be Darren or Jean? Gosh, it's just an unanswerable question. Exactly. It's unanswerable question. I, I probably like both of them too much, you know? DVORKIN are not actually friends. We're awkward. We're awkward together.
So either one of them was totally qualifies because I just like smart people. Now, when you asked. Adams, you know, so, you know, he was making like, oh, you guys are while you guys I thought you guys were friends. What's this all because I was trolling and he was making a joke and he made the same comment like, well, you never want to do a podcast with somebody you like. And I'm like, Curry and the Keeper. That seems to be working out pretty well.
Right? Interesting. Interesting. Catch their You. Ever want to do a podcast with somebody you like? Well, I think there's two practical reasons for not doing one with somebody who's a good friend is because one, you want to have content, which means you shouldn't be talking to that person outside of the show so that your conversation is on the show. Right. And I think that's a very valid point. Well, yeah, because otherwise you have the déja vu.
If you and I talk about the topic off side of the show, I'm like, I won't be on the show because it's like, well, we talked about this. Or you'll bring it up, but then you'll be second yourself, right? Well, how much of this did we talk about before? Right on the show? Off show. That's why do it. This is why everything has to be live. Yeah, Buddy Band the other day was watching his weekly show and he's like, This is the third time I've attempted this. You know, he had mechanical failure.
So this is the third time I'm recording this show. I couldn't do it. I would be like, Did I say this? Yeah, yeah, I remember saying it. Well, I've done it when I was doing gaming streaming that, you know, or not streaming gaming videos on YouTube and then something doesn't work. Brakes, game crashes. What? I was like, Oh, son of a bitch. I got to redo that. It's going to take me an hour and a half this time. It's like you're a weird mode if you've done a whole show and then you're repeating it.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like your reactions aren't going to be the same. There's just a lot of stuff, you know, It's much better. I think it's easier just to not talk other than when you're doing the show together. It definitely works better, and it makes sense that you don't repeat. You get the accurate and the real response to something. Yeah, you don't want to really you don't want to really dissect anything more than once, which is why it's more fun that way.
So if you're listening out there, never do a podcast with somebody you like. Just ask for Gene. He'll let you come on and talk to him. Yeah, Yeah. It's easy not to like me, so, you know, it's pretty, pretty straightforward. We're not probably not going to be friends, so you might as well do a show with me. But that should be the that should be the name of the show. This should be like a survivor. Or. You know, more like maybe bachelor type show. But that would be the title.
We're probably not going to be friends anyway. So let's do a podcast. You know who Guy Kawasaki is? I've Heard the name. I don't know who he is. So Guy Kawasaki was one of the first Apple evangelists, and that was a job title at back in the early days of the Mac. And their job was basically just to go to colleges and businesses and talk about all these theoretical great things that could happen if you only start using Macs and you got to get great.
He kind of got famous for that and he wrote a book called the Was it the The Zen of Apple or the Apple Way or something like that? I can't remember. The title is Many Years ago, and I think he's written a few of them. But anyway, long story short, I was at the podcast Podcast Expo like five years ago in San Diego. It was the one that the clip that that Adam plays is from. You do seeing the podcast and then he plays the daily source code. And really horrible singing, right?
No, no, no, the horrible singing that was in there but at Show Guy was there and I went to his presentation and you know, he's fairly successful. He was an early Apple guy, so he had early Apple stock. So he's very rich at this point. And now he doesn't need to write books. But he still does a lot of conventions and things and he does write books. But he said in his presentation, I don't think it was even the question that was asked.
I just came up, said, you know, I'm always happy to see people and that are reading my stuff and I'm happy to answer their questions. But a lot of people seem to think that we're going to become friends. And I just want to let everybody know, like, I'm in my fifties, I've got all the friends that I will ever have for the rest of my life already. Oh, you know, and he'll slide. And no new openings for friends. So just come in with that assumption.
And I think that's a very good point, because once start heading closer to the end of your life than you were to the beginning of your life, the it like you certainly make friends.
But there's a huge difference between somebody who's been a friend for 20, 30, 40 years that knows about you in various aspects of your life and somebody that you just met recently and you had some things in common and you just decided to, you know, turn that into a friendship because all those experiences are going to be done with without the background of who you were and the interactions that you had with other people.
Which depending on whether or not you were an asshole in high school or college, that it makes a difference. Now, if you want new friends or old friends. Well, I you kind of want both, don't you? You want a mixture of both? Yeah. Yeah. Russell says that the We're not Friends podcast. That could work. Yeah, it could. They could. There's a lot of those out there though. I mean that name that.
But I'm sure there's a lot of people that are stuck together in their, in their podcast like especially if they go if they go huge that would be horrible wouldn't it. It's like all of a sudden you get your podcast, all of a sudden that's making a lot of money and then you're like, Well, the person I'm doing this with sucks, but the money's really good. Now what do I do? Which I guess shows I don't hate you as much as I should because I keep doing this for no money whatsoever.
Well, that's either something you should learn from or accept. That's your choices right there. We do have one donation for today. Oh, you want to read it? Our buddy Josh Mandel. Coming to see somebody that forgot to cancel again? I don't think so. This is brand new because he sent in $12 in 34. So it was he didn't use the button, but I figured out which show it was for because the comment was just two words.
And these two words said to me, this wasn't for Planet Rags, this wasn't for old Benz, this wasn't for random thoughts, and it wasn't for the rock and roll pre-show, because the two words were send ponchos. Some ponchos, nice shows. Yeah. And I did. I did a review. But Amazon, it's been days. I don't know why Amazon was not posting my. Yeah, what the hell. I don't know what's going on there either That's that seems bizarre. They've changed their system.
I can tell you as somebody who was once ranked in the top, I think it was top 500 and all Amazon reviewers, which that's hard to do because there's millions of them. And somebody who was ranked that high, it used to be posted when you posted a review, it was usually posted on the Amazon site within like 15, 20 minutes. Now it's taking days. I don't know. It's like, do they have somebody reading these? I can't believe they would.
I mean, again, I would think you would use like a technology or something now to be like, let's look for you are rules. Let's look for all the deadly sins that they're looking for. But I can't believe that it's taking days and I can't believe that there's any real person looking at this because of our buddy Anthony Anselmo is up. Yeah, yeah. It's review of the shows. It's like, okay, well, you know, any human this would be like, well this seems.
Off. Mhm. So I want to know, I want to know where my want to know where my review is and the ponchos it was. I thought, I thought it was hilarious. Well yeah. And I, I'm looking forward to reading out for sure. I even uploaded a photo. Nice. We're going to find out if the bell. That would be the other thing If anybody that is doing the Amazon moderation or whatever they're doing. To. Decide if anybody knows what Vlad looks like, because otherwise we have Vlad in the banjo with the review.
Oh, yeah, I see what you mean. Sure, you know that. I'll just I don't think anybody would catch that, but. Uh, you know. I tried to make it look a little better. I gave it a little grain, you know, tried to make it look more natural. We'll see on that. But if you want to support the show. The easiest way is go to unrelenting that show Yeah. That donate button. We it is a value for value show which I know is old school. But you just go inside.
I think it's a little old school new school I mean I we talked quite a bit with Adam about that, the concept of letting people decide what they want to give money to rather than sticking in ads, getting money from those ads which are, you know, it's not a whole lot of money for a lot of ads. So let's that's the bottom line. And then having some people either skip them or complain about them or whatever they the idea is to have something with no ads.
And then based on whether people like it or not, they send money in and then theoretically, it's something that there's not a whole lot of interest in because you're not getting a whole lot of money. Well, then you need to reevaluate whether or not you want to keep doing it. Just a bit. A dinner with Jean, the starting price, $5,000. I probably go to dinner for less than that. That's a high starting price, man. I mean, what would you like one? It's going to depend on who asking.
You know, Not really. I, I, I think I'd probably go to dinner with just about anybody if they pick up the tab and then, you know, there's something else in there for me other than just the food tab five. I have a hard food plus five. But I mean, if you want to cover my Uber ride to that dinner to. Yeah, I'll do it. Sure. I Don't like we all eat. I don't care.
I my lawyer said the same thing I remember years ago because we were I took him out to lunch and course I was getting a bunch of my questions answered and he's not billing me for 700 bucks an hour like normal. So I made some comment to that regard with them. I said, look, we all have to eat, right? So if I'm eating here and while I'm eating, I'm also answering a question for you. Maybe giving you a I don't. Care.
I'm not the kind of guy that has them hit the start button on the timer to charge you for that. Well, especially if you're picking up the tab and it's some nice steaks. Which of course there would be. So you're not going to anybody out to any place that is, you know, McDonald's, you know. No, not McDonald's for sure. So I guess I have the same attitude. I'm like that. I don't know.
I may not have a second dinner with somebody if they're boring, uninteresting as hell, but, uh, it's a I don't know. It's it's something that to me, like having food with another person is you don't have to twist my arm into it. Like I don't need five grand to be talked into doing that. Even though we're robotically. You got a bandwidth, we got a bandwidth issue somewhere. We got robotic going on. Oh, no. Oh, okay. Are we pausing are you hitting the pause button here?
I don't have anything happening. There shouldn't be anything compressing on my end. It seems to have gotten back to normal. That was weird. It's about 510 seconds of the of the robot, but. They're going to leave it in or cut it out. I could leave it in. It's the Internet man, which is the kind of weird things that happen when you're on the Internet. It could this be. Yes, we are not point to point. That is, if that's true very much.
There are white folks and then there are ignorant motherfuckers like you. Whoa, What the hell, Barack Obama that come. From Barack Obama's audio book. There's a few. We're a few, but yeah, you don't remember? We bought his audio book. That's actually what I'm shocked that I can't believe you bought an audio book. Oh, I mean, Barack, I love. He's from Chicago, right? Yeah. Yeah, I know. I know you're Chicago. And when it's convenient and then you're not in Chicago and it's going to be he's not.
From Chicago, but that's okay. He just is from Hawaii and I think so. Yeah. Or Africa, depending on who you ask. He's from somewhere. Probably not here. Yeah, but there were a few of those. So have you listened to this whole audiobook or did you just get some clips? Now, those were just some. Those were just some clips. Uh, there were three main ones that have been used on podcasts for a long time. Like, shit's getting way too. Complicated for me. Which I think is great.
But the best one, I think, is this one here. Where My Bitch by Owen. Dan Fryer. Jesus Christ, dude. Yeah. Barack Obama. Man of Barack Obama. And that's is actually Barack Obama. That's not some. That's just not a. Banshee voice technology that everybody seems to be into lately. Correct. Because I would let you What's the name of the book? I don't remember which one this one's from. It's probably. But you know something my of my father, something like I think was his first book.
Of some of the first book. Okay. Believe. So he did the audio for his own first book. Yes. Which I don't know. I was kind of surprised. I didn't hire a impersonator to do the audio for him. If he only had this new age stuff, he could just like, go, I'll train my voice for 20 minutes and then. It'll, you know, it. It does work for some people much better than others. And this is what I've noticed is I've tried training. It's for my voice. So I don't have to get up in the morning.
Have you tried the 11 labs when I want to try the 11. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's the one. I'm. I've got a paid of my subscription. Yeah. And how is the quality on that one. Cause I wanted to check. Their voice is great on my voice. Not so much. It's like that will not work. It's there's. I think different voices have either easier or more difficult modeling. Depending on the consistency of the way you speak to. Yeah, like the fans are the guy that I do Griff ads with.
I think he's in the middle like his voice. It can model better than mine, but your voice, it model's way better than both of ours. What is the training method on that one? Like it? It's just. Just an audio file. So just give it any audio file. It doesn't have to be special. Word or anything. Clean audio file with just one person talking. But yes. What kind of length does it need to get a decent it say like 2 minutes? It's not that the two men say five.
Anything over 5 minutes they say is not really that helping. Not not necessary. Yeah. Not giving you a better end result. This is going to be a very interesting world. Incidentally, this is much smaller segment than what it used to be, because when I originally didn't train my voice for the script, I had to read like ten pages of text, right? It had to be specific text. Yeah. And it did a pretty good job. But it was meticulous training and it you can't really use it to speak full sentences.
What the script version is best for, what it's meant for is replacing a few words here and there. Right. Like, and I've used them in probably half the episodes that I've done. I've actually used a synthesized version of my voice, because if I rerecord, like, I don't know, I don't know if I have a practical example of it, but let's say that I, I used the wrong, the wrong word case somewhere, and generally in the beginning of the show, because I'm paying attention to that when I'm editing.
So if in the first few paragraphs of the show transcription, I said them instead of instead of M or something and not, not like in a transcribed way, but like, you know, something simple that was a mistake. You're right. You take one word out, you're like, Oh, I said, White Sox instead of Cubs. Okay, I can exactly. You could do a few things. You can just cut it out and try and edit out that whole portion.
You can rerecord and fix that error in post and actually record your save saying, you know, White Sox or Cubs or whatever, or you can use the air train voice to say the correct thing for you so you don't have to record. And the air I voice in the script is smart enough that it will essentially listen to what you are saying up to that point so that the the speed and the timbre and the volume. Oh, they were in different ways.
You know, I can I can say, you know, French fries or I can say French fries. Right. And those sound very different from each other. We was robotic. Again, I wonder if this is I know yesterday my Internet connection actually went down for a brief period. Who knows with I know Comcast keep saying they're working on like the multi gig stuff now that's supposed to be coming this year. So I can just imagine that they're swapping out crap during the day now because that's when they wanted to do it.
But this the when nobody's home. Right? Well, nobody's home doing anything. Hey, I'm here, I'm podcasting. Did. Yeah. Did you ever notice did you ever use that for a word or two and go, Wow, this isn't acceptable? Or was it all like, Wow, this is great. I'd say it works good enough to live in 90% of the time. 10% of the time It puts the wrong inflection on the word gotcha.
And then sometimes I just say screw it and, I'll rerecord the whole sentence, because that's the thing is it's really hard to rerecord one or two words because the second time you say them in post, you're like, something will be off. Either the pitch will be different or the speed will be different. Something will be off from the way you said. So this is all inside baseball or in how you know, sausage is made.
So probably people tuned out because they don't give a shit. But the idea is if if you try to match a single word, it's going to take you longer. Quite often, uh, things, the whole paragraph.
And if you record a sentence, it's going to be a lot closer because now it's going to be whichever way you do it the second time and hopefully that, you know, end of the sentence where you take a breath is enough of a difference to sort of smoothly blend into the conversation that originally existed and if you can't do it with a sentence, then you just rerecord the whole paragraph. But but I can do that for myself, but I can't do it for other people, obviously, because I don't have their voice.
Okay. This would be the oddity then when that is able to work for a guest and you're able to change a words, see, that is where the deepfakes really come in. Yeah, when it works. Well, did you ever just think to yourself, Wow, while this is cool, this is weird that it kind of leaves a weird vibe that the computer is changing. What? Saying No. Never thought that. When you had Adam Curry on the other day.
I guess people are using his voice and trying to see that's where it's going to become very interesting when somebody takes someone else's voice. Yeah. And ends up releasing something with it where it's like, Oh, look, my audio book was spoken by somebody. That's right. Well, it's what it's called a result of those lawsuits.
Because while you certainly don't have the usual sort of fair use protection for making small clips that are incidental, that are part of what you're doing, whether it's podcast or video or whatever else that doesn't fly, if you just literally take somebody else's voice that hasn't giving your performance better and then you literally just use them for a whole audiobook, you know, like a joke I posted on Norwegian Social last night. I don't know if you saw it. I think I included you in there.
As I said, Hey, check out this clip from my company doing audiobook productions, and it's a voice that I call Darrell. And of course it's your voice. So it's kind of like, Well, I've got I've got it in here, apparently. Yeah. It's not like, great. Like your voice happens to be the type of voice. The guy has a very easy time. I'm reproducing. How is your bandwidth growing? You are really robotic again, which it wasn't. Jesus Christ. Yeah. I don't know why. I mean, it could be mine.
I That is really strange. Yeah. I mean, if I was, uh. Well, let me. Let me ask this. This is where we break the fourth wall because we're recording a podcast. I'm going to ask the live listeners so you could do the same thing. And. Well, they're hearing exactly what I'm hearing. But am I okay or am I? They're hearing me breaking up, right? Am I breaking up as well? Is the question or just is a gene now?
So here's the difference, is that the no agenda live stream listeners are hearing it through you. Correct. But people that are watching the YouTube channel right now that we're recording the some they're not they don't hear it through you. They hear it direct from the studio. Correct. And the comment that I just saw is both are fine. And this and. Now just Gene for the no agenda stream. So I'm not breaking up. Yeah. So what it sounds like is it's on your end.
Yeah. Yeah. It's between the two of us. Exactly. It's not between Studio and I or you or the studio. It's between well, I guess it is between you and the studio is working here. You're going through the studio to get to your room. And I don't think you tagged me in this off, do. I'll just pull up the Virgin account and then with you on the social, I don't see it, but the cotton gin in the No Agenda program he created a little ISO thing, which is also very cool for listening live to podcast zero.
He has an ISO posted of doing anything. Hey, I'm here, I'm podcasting. This is like right there. He just was able by typing in the word Yeah to the troll room you message the the iso but with hey I'm here I'm podcasting and it uses the voice tongue. Even even people that have listened to us on the podcast are not necessarily on the no agenda troll room. So what the hell is an ISO? And well, that's what Adam calls the little isolated audio bits. It's an ISO. Baby, so it's a clip.
Yeah. Okay. So somebody has a clip. This is what. They have the ability to make an instant iso of what's going on on the stream by just typing. And so it's always, I guess, recording the last X amount of seconds of the stream. Then you type in ISO and the text that you want and it will extract that text of those words and give you an MP three of it. So it's doing live real time text to speech, using the speech to look up. But the clip duration and then extracting the clip from the stream.
Yeah. Like holy shit, that's very impressive. That is very impressive. This Is the kind of the kind of stuff you get with the no agenda bands, man. They know. They know what they get. And it is it is mostly bands. And again, I think everyone knows what a band is, but in no agenda parlance, a band is an IP related person. And let me see it here. I've got your audio that you posted me. Try this here. The strength of relationship between the racial composition of neighborhoods, genetic diversity.
Okay. One I sound black, which is cool. Definitely doesn't I mean, I can I can hear the similarity, but it is a little off. I mean, I can't even I can't tell when when that's talking. And when you're talking, it sounds identical to me. Okay, here's what we need to do. Somebody, if you can reproduce Gene's voice, I will be willing to give you a prize package because we can have all sorts of fun that. I'm not prize facts. I might be well, I might be going into that contest there the way already.
Give me. Depending. What the prize. Sure, I could do a good job. You have the best chance. I guess I at least I'm hoping Chin. To be. Weak relative to other factors affecting genetic diversity, in part due to the recency of environmental pressures on it. That it doesn't it's not it wouldn't fool anybody. But what it does do. So almost everybody it. No, it would not it would it does produce though, a very usable voice that you can use for whatever want.
Yeah. That's like you if somebody was paying you by the minute to read something, that's literally what you would sound like eating. Your way through like I have. I care at all with this. Sounds like I'm going to just throw it out there. Well, no, I mean, like actually enunciating words and speaking slowly and carefully. That says thinks it sounds a little like our belts here, a little more urban wildlife. Populations, however, that I get and see, I can hear that, yes.
Across disparate taxa suggest that systemic racism alters the demography of urban wildlife populations in ways that generally limit population size. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, there's definitely somewhere in there. That's a very good catch. Maybe that's why I. Have a. Radio voice. Right. This is he sound like dart bell. It could be. Now you're going to produce this voice. You're going to sell it as an art bell voice, even though you trained it with my voice call. Yeah.
And then I can actually do it because he's dead, right? He gets out. Well, he may have a family or an estate that. Yes, an estate probably owns his likeness and voice. That's true. But this or I think he would dig this kind of stuff. I live he would be asking like, where did this technology come from? Yes, we have a guest today. Whitley, would you like to tell us the first time that you were exposed to artificial intelligence aboard the UFO? Yeah, it's no doubt. Alien technology.
Yeah. I used to really love our is a great show from the Kingdom of Nye The Bell Show. Yeah, It's. The same reason why I used to love Morton Downey Jr. Because it's. Fun. Yeah, Yeah, it's. It's a little. A little off the beaten path. It's a little crazy, but it's fun. Crazy? Yes. Not trying to. You know, I've been to the kingdom of Nye. Ooh, yeah, I have a photo somewhere. But is it really you or is it a deepfake you. Of back then there was definitely me. That's like 20 years ago.
Well, how old were you then then? 130 or something? Yeah, I'm around 130. Yeah. Much more physically fit. And Emily's like, I just robot Gina and pod verse and Rumble. Well, she also, she posted when the show started go grocery shopping with their and and she did do you haven't done that in a future. Thank you thank you I have not done that in a while. Yes I used to do my grocery shopping and while we're doing the podcast as women. Like it, that's the way. They want to.
They want to have me shop for groceries online. I just did that yesterday. I don't need any groceries right now, but I'll keep that in mind for the next show. They're like, Let's go grocery shopping with it. It's great. And I mean, now I guess. The beauty of doing it on YouTube too, is I can actually show people, yes, I want to. Be on the screen and then you can prove it's not actually a bit because I'm sure some people think it was just a bit they had Gene says he's shopping, but no, he's not.
He's just definitely shopping online and we're recording a show. Yeah, that's hilarious. Like, which which grape should I buy? Which ice cream? You still getting the Haagen-Dazs? The coffee? Yes. Yes. I just. Exactly. I just see that last. They have the coffee. Haagen-Dazs. Now, here's the thing.
You think that's something I believe it could do where you could just go, Yeah, order, be my groceries, and it'll just go based upon your mood for the week, How much of that Haagen-Dazs you wait, how much of that lemons you've consumed? But we don't need charge for that. Amazon can literally do that right now. It's very close.
Yeah, depending on if you especially what that was one of the points of the and I don't know if that ever became a thing, but that was the whole concept of one of these smart refrigerators like, Oh, every time you take something out of the fridge, you scan it so it knows it's being removed from your inventory. I don't know if I ever got there. I used to have the Amazon buttons. Did you ever get those? I didn't, but I know what they are.
So little. Yeah. So these were these were literally like, just buttons with pictures of products on them and the magnet on the back that you could stick on your fridge door. And then if you want to order something, it was literally a one button press and it would get reordered. And I love them. I don't they clearly didn't catch on. People didn't like them, but I had a big chunk of fridge with those buttons on the outside for reordering products.
My housekeeper could push buttons and just reorder stuff without needing a credit card or anything. I found it to be super handy. We and companies were paying big time because like, Oh Tide, it had the big logo on it. Exactly. It was a Tide logo button for Tide and you know, whatever. What other other brands items you had like it was a picture of that item on the button they came with not they were non replaceable, they were basically it'll last you for three years and then when the battery dies
we'll just send you a new one. Right. And it was called something. I forget what but the minute they started. Doing they did not last. The trial of that did that last three years. I think that ran for about nine months and then discontinue that. Yeah. Because that the hacker day there were some sites I remember seeing what to do with the Amazon whatever buttons now that but no longer because you can still use them to trigger something. Oh you probably I mean they have wi fi on board.
They were pretty cool because they didn't a computer that was the cool thing is once it's programed, once it knows what your Wi-Fi network is and it knows that again from your Alexa device being on your network already. But I always like that kind of stuff. I like playing with the new app. I also have the the short lived Amazon. Did you ever have one of those? No. What what did it? You could literally scan the barcode of anything and it would order it on Amazon. I never heard that one.
You must have. Yeah. Early diver program that I think lasted for probably six months before that was discontinued. But they basically said, yeah, any product in your house if you want to order more of regardless of where you previously bought it. If it still has the barcode on it, just scan the barcode, you'll get a confirmation thing and then you'll get one ship that whatever the current selling prices on Amazon. Night that's even funnier is that Emily was just going shopping.
She didn't know you used to do your grocery shopping online so wasn't even the reason for the mentioning. She was just going grocery shopping and she didn't know that it was grocery shopping with Jean on Unrelenting. Yeah, it's a segment we need. Well, we should have like it. Is gross, not a segment every single show. But it is. Well, it should be. I mean, it should be part of it.
So we know if you're eating healthy, we're going to get on your your Fitbit or whatever watch you using so we can all see who can walk more and get healthier, who can consume more healthy calories. You can eat more veggies. These are all things we do here. Yeah, yeah. Apple Watch is big into doing a little competitions with friends kind of thing. Yeah, like I said maybe the last show that was band Drew was like, now I'm doing 3 hours or three miles or maybe where we talked.
See, this is it. We talked outside of the show. That's when I told you we should. Never talk outside of the. Show because it's very deja vu where you think you had a friend. And we started competing in the one day he beat me. And so I got pissed. So I started walking three miles in the morning and then three miles at night. And I'm like, Yeah. So like six miles a day, every single day. It probably is way less than people that actually, like, live in the Manhattan
Walk. Normally, right? If you're going by a place. Or a dude in Texas and a dude in the outskirts of Illinois, that's a lot of walking. You know, I have a treadmill, which I haven't used in years because it's really boring. Yeah. But I mean, I guess if you get yourself trained, the thing that would probably make the most sense is you could even do it in like 20 minute segments and do that three or four times a day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that would be more natural because I don't think, you know, in the is man evolved, I don't think it was like, well let's walk for an hour and a half and then lay in our ass for the rest of the day. Right. You were always up and about in doing something. I mean my snake kind of doesn't. Write cold blooded. Yeah. He mostly just walks a few feet and then sleeps the rest of the day. If you're snake walks. I want to see that. Yeah, The rib walkers. That's what it's called. They. Mm hmm.
But it slithered around. Yes. That's what people that don't actually know anything about reptiles. I don't. I, you know about reptiles. We can do that on a future segment. Oh, yes. Let's completely kill any interest that people have in listening. Let's talk about reptiles. And that what we were trying to do. The number of reptile just out there is very small. A lot of people don't like them. They're freaked out by them. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people have huge misconceptions about reptiles.
I don't doubt that. Yeah, they're not the fuzzy, furry, little fun pets. Everybody wants a cute little dog. Cute little cat. They don't look at your. Yeah. What? How many pounds snake is that thing, Like £10 or something. Hundred and 20. Other. £20. Holy cow. Yeah. Probably more than your last wife. Um, I mean when we get together. Yeah, that's about that much. Yeah, I think she's 110 when we first met. Yeah. This may also be why people don't like the snakes.
My brother in law had a dog, and I've had. I've got a bunch of pictures of girlfriends holding. That snake, I mean. Yeah, right, girl. The chicks that dig me dig the snake. It's as a very few of them out there. I get. It. Yeah, well, you know, it is what it is. Like the dogs to the one my brother in law had one who was a Great Dane or what it was, you know, if it was like the Marmaduke dog, whatever. But it was, it was like. Huge, huge.
And my mother in law made the mistake of they were sitting like a chair. Our little whatever folding chair outside. And she had the leash and wrapped it around her wrist a couple of times. You could do that with a chihuahua. I got dragged. Yeah, the whatever the one of the kids came home or something. The dog took off in the way it like, pulled her up and she broke her fucking femur. Oh wow. Like that. Do. Yeah, it was. Yeah. I mean, I guess.
Yeah. You probably don't want to be touching anything with a dog that's that big because they can pull. Yeah, it's like a horse. Even. Even like a husky. They have a lot of pulling power. Hey, I need a little pulling power, Gene. Mm hmm. Or lot. Yeah, probably. But with that said, I mean, I think we're at that time. Are we, are we, are we getting there. Well, we did start a little later, but I guess. We're your wife must be home if it's that time.
Well, it's very close, so, I mean, there's enough time to play the outro, and I'd like that. If I don't open the door, then yeah, I don't. I don't get it right. Oh, yeah, that's all right. We got a little trapped some, but I think we covered plenty of topics On why we'll save shopping for next time. High quality content right here. Yeah, on the unrelenting show. Yeah, yeah.