Welcome to Bacon Talk. We're and hello and welcome to episode number 44 of unrelenting September 30th 2022 genes heading south. 44. Is that all right? You have 44. I thought we were like over 100, right? Seems like hundreds if not thousands. It feels like maybe thousands is correct. Yeah. So that I usually know the marriage is about to go south when you're like, Hey, honey, it's our anniversary. Oh, what's it like the 40th second? Oh. Yeah. Okay, if you go from second to 40, something may be up.
Yes, it may just feel like a really long time. I think it usually takes about seven years to get to 40. Until the year like that. It's you got to have that seven year itch and then you're like time. It's like you're in the TARDIS and you don't know how much time is abandoned, but you got space. It's been forever. Just right, that's all. You know, it's been a long time. I can't remember when I felt good. Right? Well, that's it. That is it. And that's why you're heading south for another vacation.
Yeah, exactly. I I'm heading south. You're correct in that the deal. The Florida deals, I hear Tampa's really you can get a lot of deals right now. Good deals. So got to go on vacation again everything. So one interview. Hmm hmm. Hmm hmm hmm hmm. Hmm. Well, you'd be pretending to go down there to work, you say, though? Oh, yeah. Vacation work. Totally. Yeah. You write your best books while inebriated on a beach. Yeah. Not drinking this year, but. Yeah. Well, I mean, they need really just a life.
Uh, sure. That works a whole year. Good without alcohol. I've done that a few times. Have you? I've done a month before when I was in my late twenties. I've never done the year before. Oh, so this is was this a test of will or just a just. Yeah, I'm over it. A little bit of both. And I know my liver thinking me well. So is your wallet because the alcohol. You like that $7,000 an ounce? Yeah. Yeah, I know. That's true. Um, there's.
Yeah, I hadn't really thought about it, but you're absolutely right, because even. Even if you're not buying the really expensive stuff, there's no such thing as cheap alcohol. Or at least not anything I'm worth. I'm being entertained. Drinking. No, I mean, you're starting. Probably there are some Irish whiskeys that are probably about 30 that are decent but it's. Yeah. You don't want like the $9 and 99 cent.
No. But even just, you know, going out to bars or whatever or even just restaurants and having wine with a meal that'll add up quickly. Well, yeah, because they take the cost that they paid for the bottle of wine also. Yeah. Multiply it by three or four. That's the people like. Why is that. Why did they do that. Well because they're there to make money. Well, in in Texas, a lot of places are actually BYOB. Which is nice. Yeah. Which I'd never heard of until I got to Texas.
Like, You got to be kidding me. A restaurant lets me bring my own alcohol there. Wow. There are some. They'll even hold it for me. They have a little locker. That nice? Yeah, there. Are a few of those here and it's a lot of them. It's just because the liquor licenses can be so hard to get. They're so expensive. Right? But they can't tell you not to bring your own wine in. So now there's one place, barbecue place out here called Salt Lake. That that is BYOB.
But has a liquor store about 100 feet off. Yeah, we've got I think we've talked about that, which is mayhem. Yeah. Which is. Yeah, genius or crazy depending on how you want to look at it. So you sit down and you're like, Yeah, I'd like some wine. And they're like, We don't sell it here. They just point next door, which is they're basically the. Old thumb over the shoulder. I'm guessing it's not the cheapest liquor store in town either. I would guess not. Yeah, that's a good point.
If they're starved anyway. I, I generally just drink iced tea. I mean, even before my whole I'm going to take, uh, you know, a year off sabbatical from drinking or whatever. Even then when I barbecue, I, I just prefer my barbecue to be just nothing but barbecue and pasty to wash it down. Well, yeah, you can't enjoy the barbecue as much if you're totally like, well. No, I. I may have asked you this before too, but do you have a favorite barbecue place out there? You know.
In the Chicago land area in Chicago. We went through it's been a while. My buddy Ron, who passed away a few years ago, was was was a little bit insane, but in a good way. And he was kind of on a quest to try every in in Chicago, you know, mainly what you're getting is barbecued ribs when you can still get the brisket and that. But that's more you know, I would expect that in Kansas and Texas and all that.
So yeah. Yeah. And I would agree, I think most of my life when I said the word barbecue, what I referred to was ribs, right? Work ribs. But it changes if you're down south a little bit. It does in Texas in if you say barbecue, the default is brisket. So if you if you want barbecued ribs, you have to specify. Now, we had a theory, my buddy Ron and I, that we pretty much proved, which was the more dangerous the neighborhood in Chicago. The better the.
Rib, the better the ribs, the thicker the bulletproof glass at the at the venue, the better the ribs. And he went and would just pick these things up and, you know, bring them back because he was a contractor. And so that explains how he died, I guess. Well. Cancer. But I would wouldn't doubt that there was something related to all the crap you breathe there because he was a tile installer, he did all the tile in our house was way better than most tile installers, but.
I was referring to the growing interest in the neighborhoods. But you blew. That. So I see that. That's just the funny thing because of course he had a just crappy beat up truck and when he would go pick up this food, most of the time he was in his work clothes, which looked like he was homeless, or actually he looked like he was a step down from homeless. And he's like, nobody wants to screw with that kind of a guy. You know? I'm just here to buy ribs. But nice.
Yeah. We tried a lot of barbecued ribs. Barbecued ribs in Chicago, and none are bad. They're all just a little dip. I can't say you would pick one necessary chili over the other. They're all slightly different. They're all delicious. Even the ribs are good. I like the slathered in sauce and fall off the bone. Ribs? Yes, which some people don't. They're a purist, and they're like, Well, that's no good. Hmm. Yeah, some people are really dry rub people. Yes. Which I mean, both are good.
I've tried both, but there is something about the like you said, it's almost like when you're when you're done, it's almost like the artificial McRib stuff because the bones are just gone and the delicious meat is there. And that's that's hard to beat. There's a place not too far from here called senators, which it's been a while since I've gone over there to get some ribs.
I mean, that's not a bad part of town, but it's it's not the best, but it's not you're going to get shot kind of sense, which I mean, somebody else that can go that wants to take on that take on that job of going into the worst parts of Chicago just to get some barbecue. Yeah. If there's any volunteers left there now. Yeah, that would be a party. The rib. Bigger upper, huh? It's. It's now that I wonder if any of those places are on Uber eats and what kind of a tip people would.
I'm sure most of them are. Yeah. I mean, everything's on ubereats that I've seen. It's true. It's hard not to be because that's their sales pitch is like, well, you know everybody else's. In the restaurant. Be the only restaurant that isn't. Well, yeah, you kind of do because my buddy owns a pizza place and they they kind of are at war now with the Uber eats and pickup services because they're well aware that when Uber eats brings an order and they'll fill it. But Uber eats has taken 30%. Yeah.
So now they've gone to, hey, order directly from us and let our pickup delivery driver do it and we'll give you a 15% off coupon. It's easy to order directly from us rather than going to Uber eats because they know even at that, even giving 50% off, there's still 15% ahead. The irony is I found with the local pizza places that some of them I mean, it depends on which one, but some of them, they they've always delivered pizza.
But if you put an order in through them, it could be like an hour and a half delivery. You put an order in through breathes, it's like a half hour delivery. It's like magic. Well, because they have maybe three or five guys working there, total doing the delivery runs. Which makes sense. And they get busy, right? Uber Eats has a almost unlimited number of people delivering so well. They do federally.
Yeah. So the order basically goes in as a counter, a pickup, which they can do pretty quick and then the Uber guys pick it up versus the guys working at the restaurant. So it gets done a lot faster. It's like, man, I'm sure like you said, the restaurant makes a lot of money on that. Yeah. Which they don't like. You know, but pizza so damn cheap a business anyway. Which is why it's almost criminal when you see the the prices that they've gone up.
And we ordered a pizza the other day and it was like 35 bucks. It's like that's. What it costs and prices. Yeah, exactly. And that was the first thing my buddy said, which I never really understood because his place, he likes more of the, you know, upscale Italian dishes than that. But he's also well aware of it's like, well, the margins are those way less than what's on the pizzas. Like, yeah, for five bucks you can make a pizza and you know, sell it for 30.
Well, regardless of what's on the pizza, dough is 75% to 90% of the pizza. Yeah. So you think about that dough is one of the cheapest things you can make. It's just flour, water, a little bit of salt and yeast. And it's it costs very little and it's it's well, the majority of what you're actually eating with pizza. And it's a deliciousness if done right. Yeah. Well the ingredients I think are delicious.
The stuff that they put on top or let's put it this way, things that have fat in them are delicious. Yes. Well, there you go. Okay. And those cost more and beat. Yeah, you did double the cheese and then you triple the meat and you're good to go. But you'll notice some of them also. The Shrinkflation has hit some of the pizza places around here because it's like the amount of cheese less. Yeah. You know, the amount of pepperoni or sausage. Yeah, but it's probably a good thing.
I mean. Healthier. Yeah, exactly. As an above average. Wait American. I won't say that it may not be a bad thing that we have shrinkflation happening. I know it's my favorite place that I get my Palestinian chicken from. They used to be and they were a great bargain. I think I even talked about them in the past. I used to get like a nine pieces of chicken kebab, so probably either two or three, probably two skewers, but they were nine pieces and the price was like eight bucks or something.
I mean, it was on top of rice that was just ridiculously cheap and good quality every time. Well, I still order from them, but their prices went up by 25%. And in the you now get one fewer pieces for that same dish bastards. So I know. And it's it sucks when you compare it to what they used to be, but when you compare it to what everybody else is doing, it's like there's still a good deal. Yeah. And I love a good chicken kebab. They Yeah. A couple of the grocery stores around here make them.
So you just throw them in the air fryer, you know, or at your grill if you want to do that. But it's quick, it's easy and it's. Big enough that you can put a whole kebab in. There. Yeah, I like my length. I could put like four kabobs side by side in there. It's like warrior these kebabs. I would say they're about ten, 12 inches. Your fryer is a foot inside two dimensions. Really? That's big. Yeah. It's like the biggest cosori one they make. Okay. Because mine's probably eight inches in it.
I can put something diagonally but not, you know. Now I can fit these side by side, which is awesome. I mean, I've actually been also just taking two kabobs and then cutting up some red pepper and putting that in there with it to have a little extra veg. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's cool. Yeah, I and I like the using the air fryer, but it's just, I feel that the inside dimensions are to get them small. Yeah. You need it bigger. I've got. And I believe it's going to fit, but we'll find out.
This is the first time I've tried this because I tried it with a precooked rotisserie chicken. Mm hmm. That fit in there. So I ordered one of the, for the first time, a full small chicken. I think it's like nine or £10. So I'm going to try and cook that in the air. FRYER Well, but the chicken isn't I mean, it's kind of roundish. It's not squished the way kebabs are. No, that's true. But it's the ice would be the. Yeah, yeah, that's yeah. The main thing. Yeah. I don't know.
I mean, when I bought this thing, I thought I was mostly going to make, you know, French fries. Which, of course, you could do. But they saw it as like, oh, make great fries. So I'll say, okay. And then what I realized is that most of the stuff I'm making isn't actually French fries. It's it's either heating or reheating sort of pre-prepared dishes from the grocery store and or, you know, including like kebabs that are pre-made or whatever.
But what I find is I had to cut them wood sticks and half. That's no good. So that they fit because the whole, you know, full length ones, just like I can put one of them in there, they Agnelli need. A bigger air fryer. I may need a bigger air fryer. I like the one I've got it looks nice. It's all silver or, you know, stainless or whatever. But I think it's too small. Yeah. You need it to be large enough to handle.
I mean, for a single person though, I mean that's usually you'd say the portions are less. But you're right, you need it wide enough. It works for me. Yeah. It's like if like thick cut bacon, I can put five slices in there and it'll, it'll crisp, I can do. Four slices of, of bacon without overlapping. So yeah. That's, that's the thing. I never even thought about it when I bought it. I didn't occur to me that the inside dimensions mattered that much.
But it depends what you're trying to put in there. Now, if you. Just what I started what I started doing with bacon is actually wrapping it into a little kind of a spiral or a tube and then putting that in there. Should be okay. So it'll fit. Well, there's two benefits, actually. One is it'll fit. The other one is that it's on its edge. So all the fat drips off.
We'll see that does it when it's flat, even in mine, because there's enough of a reservoir underneath that it just falls through the basket. Know. So it's not actually cooking in its own grease. Yeah. Yeah, I same thing but no what I mean is sometimes if you put it flat, you'll have it cooked. But there's a little lake of grease on top of the bacon. Oh, I gotcha. Because it curled up. So this just takes that lake of grease and washes away. Drains it instantly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It just slightly, a little more. So there's two ways to do it. One is to use toothpicks to hold it together while, you know, while it's cooking. The other way is to just put enough them in there. All of them twirled up on their side that you don't need toothpicks, but then you're making like they're making things. Yeah, yeah. Welcome to Bacon Talk and not relaxing. Everybody done both of those? Yeah, it's bacon. Bacon. It's pretty good. You have to test it out.
You got to find out what works best. Yeah, but I don't know, maybe I. I guess this is also survived long enough that I can probably justify replacing it because it's. I want to say I got it's 2017 or 18. Yeah. That's been like 4 to 5 years. Yeah. Yeah. And it was only like 180 bucks. So I got my money's worth out of it. About the same. And we've replaced the inner basket once because that was starting to just be overall cake didn't really bad. And could include you know.
It got to that point yeah it was you know the the coating started coming off so that was oh. No, that's not good. That was the time you knew it had to be replaced. But I think we're ready for another one. But I buy another coat. Sorry, it's worked perfectly. And then you get to get the largest one and it's. Yeah, you should reach out, see if we get a sponsorship, buy them for the show. Be like, Hey, you want to join us? We're talking about air fryer cooking. I'm sorry.
Oh, you could do everything, man. It's like that. Exactly like you said it was. Oh, you know, this would be a healthy way to make, you know, French fries and chicken nuggets. That was about the thought. That was exactly right. Yep. It's like, oh, no, no, it's way more. Yeah, you make all kinds of shit. It's it's a faster than the microwave a lot of times.
Mean it's great for just even taking you know you want to make a Reuben he had taken you put it in there with the bread and it just host the outside of the bread. It warms the corned beef. It's beautiful. Oh, it is very good at toasting. Yeah, yeah, that's true. It's, it's. Yeah, it's nice. I never understood why they didn't just include these and all microwaves. I mean, all you got to frickin do is put a fan in there that blows hot air around.
Well, which is you have to have another way to do the hot air, too, though not the. Well, yeah, yeah. I mean, but. You're right, it wouldn't be that hard to even. If you put just the fan into a microwave. So the parts that are getting just nuked versus the parts that are still cold get warm air moving around there. That would be better because I think the only thing the microwave fans do is they suck the air out. Well, that's why you have the rotisserie to move the food while you're making it.
Yeah, yeah. But I don't know. I might. Say it's been. With the microwave, but if you see that there was a guy, there's, I'm sure there are multiple but there's a guy that YouTube channel was mainly devoted to crazy cooking. What you could do with microwaves. Well, what the what the technology could do. And he proved that when you put a microwave on, say, 50% power. Uh huh. The microwaves don't have a 50% power like you're driving and you're only going to half acceleration. And then it's.
Just turning it off for 50% of the time. Yeah, exactly. So it's like nuke off, nuke off, nuke off. Yep. Who knew? Yeah, that's true. I did. I knew that. I never. Knew. That. Everybody knew that. I never thought about it. I was like, Oh. You know what else doesn't doesn't go 50%. GM. Uh, not go 50% a lot. Now the speed. Down to like three. Or four. Times. Uh huh. LED lights. So wait. Oh, that's blowing my mind. So wait a minute. Because they have dimmers that you could use and LED lights.
Is all they do is turn off and then. They'll wouldn't you get look it up epileptic fit if that happened. Well if you use a camera to record an LED light, you will see that it's actually doing that. That's bizarre. But your eyeballs are not sensitive enough to notice it. I mean, it makes total sense because you think about it, old school TV sets, right?
The CRT is we used to have they used to literally light up one pixel at a time as they're scanning left to right and drawing all those lines and to our eyeballs, we would see a full image. You remember those TV sets? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's now one interesting thing is that animals that are much superior to us and vision, like cats never used to watch TV sets because all they they never understood what the fascination of people is to sit and watch a pixel moving across the screen.
Right where that's. All they saw. Like. Yeah, that's all they would see is they would see the actual single pixel running across the screen. Like top left to bottom right. But that was happening all within like what, 60 times a second was it or whatever? All 33 times a second. But you know, our shitty human eyes would blend all that together into a single image.
Now we do have better color perception than they do, but they have much faster ability to to see change than we do because they're actual predators, unlike us. If we we're. Prey. With the LED and the plasma screens, they're like, hey, wait, this is. They yeah, they can actually watch it now. And you'll see a lot of cats and dogs watching TV these days. They're always abused when they see another animal on the screen. Uh huh, oh, yeah, yeah. For sure.
I think they they think of a TV is just a window. Is it a window to the world, Gene? Well, metaphorically for us, but physically, you know, virtually for them. But it's a it's an interesting idea.
But, yeah, if you you'll notice this, if you watch like a car review done by not a professional channel but by one of the multitude of YouTube car reviewers that are using consumer quality cameras, you'll notice that the all the tail lights, headlights, everything is just blinking really fast because the camera is actually picking up. Well, it's out of sync. The camera's recording at a certain frame rate, and it's out of sync with the frame rates of the blinking of the light.
Because if you just turn and the led on, you know, it'll give you the most, uh, the most brightness that it's capable of delivering. But it'll also burn out much like a, a regular old school light bulb. So you want to have LEDs that last forever. You can either run them at much lower levels of light reduction, or you can run them at higher at full power, but turn them on and off really fast. So you just want to sit there and keep flipping the switch. Well, I mean, it's kind of hard.
I mean, yeah, you don't have to. It's it's part of the package, but, uh, but they're not constant on. It's a, it's, it's interesting stuff that we just, there's so many things that we have with our sensors that can be, uh, I guess fooled isn't quite the right word, but essentially, we're just not very good. Well, yeah, I, well, we went from the in can't desert bulbs to the horrible compact fluorescent which I never bought. I was like, screw that, I'll sell like compact fluorescents.
I never had any problems with them. I don't know why people. Would say, Drive me nuts. I don't know what it is about them. I don't know. It. It was it's the aura they put out, whatever. They did the same thing. Those also flashed really fast. That may be why maybe I picked up on that because it just had it kind of make you feel like you were inside of a Best Buy or Costco because it just had that artificial. Light. Streaming out of it.
But when the LEDs came out that were very much indistinguishable for me, at least that was before I, you know, had horrible, horrible vision you could put them in. You have a like in our kitchen fixture here, there's five bulbs. I put three of the LCD used two incandescent. You look at it and you're like, I can't tell the difference. And you're using like so. But they're much better. Oh yeah. And they use like six watts instead of 100 or whatever the compare. Well already.
Yeah. The, the, the CFA bulbs that we had for a while you just like actually were the most economical they used less sour than the LEDs. But they sucked. But some people have a weird reaction to them. Yeah. Yeah. But maybe it was only good for the lizard people or something. It's it's. I mean, they're, they're certainly a group of people that really couldn't stand them. But I don't know, they seem fine to me. You're like, they lit the place up.
All I'm looking. For. Yeah. The house that I built back in the 2000, I had all those bulbs in there and there they were perfectly fine. The only thing and again is they had issues being dimmed. But other than that annoyance and yeah, it's still dimmer eventually. But yeah, but those are those ones I'll give you dimmed them. They were like you got the buzzing and. Well the Yeah. The shitty ones would but you get good ones, they just cost more. Who wants to spend a lot on lighting.
Spend a lot of money going there, that's for sure. The current house, they've got all the LCD stuff in and I, I don't think I ever played knock on wood. I don't think I replaced the bulb in a decade. Here. I've replaced just one or two. And I'm assuming that was because they were fairly cheap Casco bulbs and. Mm hmm. And which, you know, overall is still fairly impressive, but it's not like the you forget how much we used to have to change incandescent bulbs.
Well, and and remember that's by design. Yeah. You know Edison still has light bulbs burning for over 100 years at his house. We got to burn them out, baby. You got to buy more. They were. Yeah, they were designed to be a consumable, not a permanent fixture. And it's absolutely possible to do a I wonder. I'll bet you could probably order some these days. I haven't done the search myself because I'm not. I prefer the white light to the yellow light, so I'm fine with LEDs.
But you like the natural daylight pep you up kind of. Bulb if you like that yellow bulb look that we used to have the one. I'll bet she was somebody makes like a long life bulb right now that don't burn out because there's there's no more incentive to make the burn all kind because if you do, they'll be made replaced with an LCD. So the only the only competitive incandescent you can make are going to be the long age ones, which should last for decades. Right.
That's the artisan collection now of of incandescent bulbs. Yeah. And I think literally the only difference is going to be the thickness and possibly the material. Yeah. That's being that, that the, the actual wires made from. Yeah. That the current is going through. I used to have a halogen light in the office here which was. I had one of those. Yeah. It was a. Great thing in the winter. Mm. But in the summer he. Heats you up. He has. Yeah. I remember those things being sold was like 500 watts.
I was like, oh, that's all I'm using a 60 white light bulb and that's hot and this is 500 watts. Yeah, those things would fry insects. Anything that comes without even landing, anything it flies close to it just gets just obliterated. Yeah. I had one that just had a piece of glass that stand right on top of. Well, it didn't sit. There was a little air, but it was right up above that because of that, because the bulbs get so damn hot.
Oh, insane. They had. Yeah. I had the stand up lamp like that I remember. Right. Exactly. In the eighties. Yeah. And it would heat up the room. I remember. Oh yeah. It's like it'd be 20 degrees outside now. It's like, well, if it's just me at home, you know, for the day work and wife's out at work, then I could just turn the, the heat off of the rest of the house and that would. Just use the lamp. Yeah. That would more than heat up the room. Yeah.
And that's what we still have in cars too, if you. Remember if the headlights. Hmm. That was a beautiful thing you could actually see. Yeah. And then we get high intensity discharge headlights, head lamps, which were a dark based light, I believe, that were very cool because they were cool, white instead of yellow. So it kind of started associating a white colored headlights with expensive car doing well. Yeah. You want to see further the white got to a better Yeah.
Distance when you're going 100 miles an hour you want to see. You know. What's coming in front of you. Well, speaking of enhanced, yeah, this is a great Segway. Did you see the Apple executive who was fired? Tony Blevins. No. He showed up at some event where there was a tech tucker that was asking everybody who had a nice car. Hmm, the. Same question, which is, you know, what do you do or whatever? Because, you know, I guess the Mercedes this guy drove up in was a $500,000 Mercedes.
So go. Wow. He got to ask the question, hey, what do you do for a living? And he answered, I have rich cars play golf and fondle big breasted women, but I take weekends and holidays off. Nice. That got him fired from Apple. Well, they probably just ran out of the big breasted women there. This is this is my question. Which part of that statement is so offensive that it will have somebody losing their job? Yeah. Wait. Repeated again.
I have rich cars play golf and fondle big breasted women, but I take weekends and major holidays off. And then he added, if interested, I've got a hell of a dental plan to allow his wife or girlfriend, whoever was sitting in the car laughing or she. Yeah. What's a rich car? I don't know what a rich car is. I know an expensive car is. I guess that's what he meant. This is the this is the UK though. I believe so. Oh the UK people because he. Was wearing.
Apple UK guy. Yeah. Well he was wearing a Jolly Roger t shirt under his jacket. You know, he looked like this guy was ready to go out and, and I just this was a line because it's funny, I guess this was taken kind of from a line from the 1981 movie with Dudley Moore, Arthur, that is kind of the way he was dressed, too. So this was obviously meant to be a joke. Take it lightly. Right? Okay. But this got him fired. I'm like, okay, so you have the card.
Not big deal. Play golf, obviously not a big deal. Taking weekends and holidays off, I think. Big deal. The fact that he wasn't homosexual. I'm thinking it's like because he liked if he would. Have just said big cocks instead of big breasts, he probably would have still had his job. Dude, you're right. You couldn't get fired for that because then to fight. For that, it's absolutely especially given, you know, Apple's gay agenda.
But this is I'm hoping this guy is able to like, sue Apple for billions because that is what they are. He's not going to sue anybody. No, I'm sure he got fired, but he probably got a few million bucks of severance. He probably got a good deal. But I still can't understand why is this offensive for a straight man just to say, hey, I'm rich, I like to follow big breasted women. Yeah, it's. Not it's only offensive to say if you work at Apple. Right? Guess.
I mean, it's not like he said he did it without their consent or that they weren't into it or didn't want it. It's like this is just admitting what everybody knows that's just toxic masculinity. Don't show. Exactly. Which is why there's a whole new podcast they're going to be doing soon that talks about all this kind of stuff. But with somebody who is not a male. Somebody is not a male. I know. Finally, but needing a female. I've been waiting for for a while. For that. Yeah.
For a long time. Exactly. And it will, it'll get kicked. Not your wife. No. No. Mm hmm. And it'll be a little while because this person probably won't have power because of the hurricane coming in soon into the Carolinas. But after that. Mm. There's things in, there are things in motion. Yeah. Those that challenge as soon as you surpass the number of followers she has she has to do a show with you. Ask me so that maybe it was, it was like, oh jeez, I need to catch back up. Oh so she's okay.
She's just playing you. Probably. She's going to do a show until she gets more followers once again and then that'll be that. That's okay. I've been telling her, do a podcast. We need you to do a podcast. Uh huh. And she came up with that idea and I'm like, Well, that actually really works. And yeah, because I'm intrigued about all this kind of stuff. And it's, it's hard for two white guys or even a white guy and a black guy or a white guy in an Asian guy.
If it's two guys, you can't really talk as well about, you know, well, is this offensive that he said this, this? Why would anybody take this as being offensive? Why would you know, this isn't even just reprimanding, like, well, you should you know, you should think about you're representing Apple when you're out there. So saying anything that might be it's a no. This is like immediate fire and this is termination. This is wow, I don't get it. But it's like I'm.
Telling you, it's it's it's saying breasts instead of cock. Yeah, that's what it is. And it just it's just saying it. And it's not like this was at an Apple event. This was at his own time. So you guys and you can't make a joke because some asshole with a camera is going to put you on tik tok. You're going to go viral and your company is going to go, oh, fire that guy. Hmm. It's like, I don't understand. It's like, this had nothing to do with his job.
And you're making the case that his comments were so bad that they could hurt the company. It's like. What comment did he make against that? He likes big breasted women. Wow. He likes to fondle big breasted women. Now I'm going to just ask any straight guy out there how many straight guys out there are like, no, no, I hate modeling big breasted women. They just hate it. I think the percentage is low. Maybe he maybe it's the the saying, well,
I guess if you're a single guy, it wouldn't matter. But I know. I don't know. It's a weird thing. It's a bizarre, crazy thing. Does it make any sense to me? But the apple is, you know, they're they're a very woke company. Yeah. Tim Cook and CEO Jeff Williams were among those angered by the comments. Angered, I tell you. That's why I'm telling you. Should have said. Yes. That's the only. Answer. Hmm. Huh. Angered by the fact that somebody would dare or. Should have said women with characters.
I don't even understand it. I'm so confused. I am so glad. It's the the intersectionality can be very confusing. Maybe you can get that explained to you. I don't get what is allowed and what is not allowed anything about being a straight guy is now not allowed. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So, hey, you should do a show with, like, a black lesbian, though. Is there anybody out there that fits that criteria? How do you find one of those? A black lesbian? Yeah, probably on Craigslist.
Because this could get you into a lot of trouble, like. No, no. For a while I was looking for a. Podcast. That that for no doesn't even make sense. I'm a straight guy. What would I need a lesbian for in that manner? Put on a show. It's so bad. You're just digging a hole right now. I know it's fun. They realized a while ago I didn't start the main recorders or the backup recorders doing all the heavy lifting today. Nice. Well, I've been back out recruiting as well.
Well, perfect. See, this is why it works. Mm hmm. This is why it is essential to have a professional co-host that can pick up the self things. Yeah. Yeah. Although this will be a short podcast for us because I still need to pack and I'm flying out shortly. Well, why didn't you pack? Why? What? I thought about it. Seriously, what do you need in Mexico? Can't you just go? You know, I mean. Well. You know, t shirts and, shirts, I guess, and stuff. T shirts, shorts and stuff.
How long can that even to get you buy that when you get to Mexico too, or is that then you'd have to pay the extra resort fee where it's like, oh, you'd like a, a shirt in a pair of shorts. That'll be several thousand dollars, sir. I'm I'm not looking forward to buying flip flops at the resort. Well, you don't have your own. I thought you have, like, a whole Adidas line of flip flops. And flip flops. I do. But I usually like to have a new set when I go to a resort.
Is it for just the overall people? You don't want them like it looks like the look. That guy looks like his flip flops. They're like weeks old. Those are not flip flops. So something I do which may be annoying some people, I, I like to get a new set of flip flops that I can wear in the pool. Do you wear them into the pool? Yeah. I don't want to touch things other people have touched. Well, that makes sense.
And you hear that even even in the nicer hotels, there's a lot of people that are like, we wear flip flops in the shower. Oh, yeah, yeah. And so what I usually do is just buy a pair and then just use them for that hotel stay. And then you just toss them when you're done. Yeah. You know. That seems like you could probably at least give those to a poor homeless child. I'm sure somebody gets them. It seems like wasteful spending. No, not really.
I mean, it's just, you know, it's like spending money on masks or gloves. There could be a black lesbian and need a flip flop. Think of them. Thinking of them as your foot gloves. Well, that's. Four foot masks. This is my co-host on the grumpy old Ben's podcast without camping over his birthday and got sick. But. You know, yeah. He didn't wear a mask, so. It was why would you wear a mask when you're camping? That would be idiotic.
Well, yeah, well, it'd be idiotic to wear a mask at any time because they don't stop viruses. Exactly. But especially when you're camping, they. Get well, especially. Is it wrong for one. Man, not only they're not another viruses, but they actually encourage bacterial growth. Because also, yeah, people are cheap. So, you know, especially looking back on this now, you know, how many people had a cloth mask that they wore for weeks and weeks without laundering it?
Yeah. Or even just wearing a paper mask for like days on end because, well, you know, $0.30 apiece. Then. Yeah. I mean, anything that's in front of your face for more than 8 hours is stupid. But that's why you send the lesbians home when you're done, you're like, Get out of here. You in front of my face anymore. Because you're you're just providing a warm, moist environment which just happens to be exactly what. Black lesbians. Funguses. So yeah, yeah. Funguses bacteria.
They all like the warm and the moist. And that is where. It lets be probably too. Yeah. See now all comes right back around. Yeah. I mean I guess in the end pretty much everybody likes the warm or the moist. But until you're. Denied. Or fired from apple for for making. Firewood from apple, it's like no more. No more moist or warm. Yeah. Can Apple executives say warm and moist without being fired? I want to know.
Mm. Yeah I, I don't know if you can say the word moist without being fired these days. It's apparently on the list of banned words now. Uh huh. I want to know if what this conversation was like, too, with this guy got called in. Uh huh. Like, yeah, we saw this video, and we're going to have to let you go. Mm hmm. Don't say anything. It is. This is why podcasters never get jobs. Once you start podcasting. We mean like people with jobs don't podcasts very rarely. Uh huh.
I read how many companies would hire you after listening to this podcast? Zero. Yeah, good question. Yeah, it's like zero. They're like, no, no, this is very problematic. We've reached out like should point. We I'm going to be on another podcast next week talking about bidness stuff, so who. Knows what kind of business? Yeah. Uh, just talking to rich people about how to get richer. The yeah. Pretty much that all this podcast.
Yeah, I think in a nutshell is kind of all business but I. Guess you like let me tell you why you should put all of your money into rubles. Yeah. Too late, right? Right. Yeah. She hadn't done that when you had the chance. And what the hell is going on over there? This is hilarious this, uh huh. This annexation, this, this, this. And if I go back to the audio, I believe you called this at one point or another.
I did. That. It was just going to be like, yeah, well, okay, we're just annexed this and let's move out. I think I was talking about this back in March. Yeah. You knew where it was going? Yeah. It's all a scam now. It's they they it'll be interesting to see what happens after, because my original prediction from March was that everything east of Kiev would become part of Russia and that they're not quite that far west coast. So so the question is, do they keep going after the annexation or not?
Which I would think that this would be. A. If everybody just goes, okay, let's just do this will be done, then it would be. But if there's if there is any kind of well, no, we're going to continue to fight, which is what you're hearing, that they'd probably continues to get pushed.
Yeah. Because it's a my again going back to the that the original March prediction is that if you drew a line from Odessa through Kiev all the way north to Belarus, that would be the chunk of land that would become part of Russia because and it's not a hard prediction to make because that's the Russian population. So these are places where people always spoke Russian. There was no Ukrainian dialect. That's all it really is. It's not a frickin language. The dialect like that was not a thing.
So I think that right now there's probably zero chance of there being any kind of a cease fire or any kind of a resolution to this. So I think Russia is going to keep doing so. They're going to formalize this new chunk, although they've delayed this, they were going to do it next week. But apparently now they're saying they're going to hold off on the formal recognition of them or I guess the the people are voted to become part of Russia, but Russia isn't going to fast track the process.
So it'll take a little while. Right, because we don't believe this election. But we're told election deniers should all go straight to hell. But we don't believe the results of this election. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Which makes sense. And I said Donald Trump was offering to go negotiate, so hold on. So so we don't believe that the people that have been at war and attacked wanted by the coup that came from Kiev for the last eight years that they would wish to leave Ukraine. Huh. Interesting.
It has to go down our line of political thinking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know, when when Trump gets more votes than any other president in the history has ever gotten, well, Biden still wins. Okay. All right. That makes sense. We have our one and only executive producer, I guess with a booster grab live 3333 comic strip blogger. Why? This has to be wrong. He's not listening. He is listening. He wants everybody to visit him. Believe it. W w w dot csb dot lol to find fun cartoons.
Andy says tell russian that you. Have to give. Up Americans citizenship if he wants to give Alaska back to Russia. I don't think you said you wanted to, did you know? I did. I just said it was never fully the paperwork wasn't the paperwork was never done vetted. So if that was never vetted, that it wouldn't actually be giving it back to Russia. I love the fact that a Polish dude sitting there is is telling me what I should be doing when I'm an American citizen
talking about Alaska. Okay, buddy. I thought you have so many different passports. It's hard to keep up. Well, I've got an American one. That's the important one. So, international man of mystery. Well, until you get to Mexico and that which passport? Yeah. Well, then I use the Mexican one right now. Obviously you your name changes to like Juan Carlos or something like that. Hey, now, hey, now, don't be outing me. Sorry I didn't so hard to keep track of all your different aliases.
Uh huh. I've got them encrypted here on the hard drive. I know, I know. It's because I send you email from all of them. Just in case. Yeah, it's the backup. What were you like? Well, at least he didn't say one Valdez, which is my name in Colombia. But really good coffee. That really good coffee. What do you mean by Valdez? Really good coffee and coffee. What does that have to do with coffee? Well. You know exactly what it has to do with coffee. That's just my.
Oh, man. All right, don't be don't be talking about it. Did you. Used to do commercials back in, like, the. Eighties? Yeah, I've been around for a while. You've changed a little, too. I can see the dieting is not that big. Yeah. No, no. I like. I like the good me, you know, I like the. Hey, now there is a iso. Is it is that is that even an ISO really. It's well anything could be an ISO. I mean you could iso everything. I never understood why they call them ISOs. Isolation would be my guess.
Really That seems like a goofy term. You just. I mean, yeah. There's two things that were ISOs. Well, there's more than two there's in search of which is what I thought they were saying originally. Like I'm in search of this thing that I can't find and then I realize now that's not what they mean by ISO. Then there's the ISO format of a CD. ISO stands for International Standards Organization. Right. Which is a. Around for a long time. Yeah.
Uh, and then I think there's a couple of other definitions of ISO, but I've never understood why the hell they call clips isos. I think it is just not. Just call it a clip. Well, I would agree. I mean it's in broadcast. I think it's so it's referred to as it is. Let's see for. I don't know where I came from. It was not a term for a clip that I was familiar with. Like I said, I know a few other ISOs, but. It's not what is on the No Agenda podcast, which is really the.
Only podcast I've heard the reference from. It's No Agenda is they're calling clips, ISOs. And everything that has snowballed from no agenda overall is who calls them ISOs. Right. But that's my point is I don't understand why John and Adam started calling these things ISOs. Because I believe of isolation. I believe they've mentioned that before. If I'm not totally imagining that. Acronym man or even an acronym. I just taking a little bit. You're isolating it.
That's what allegedly making it sound. Really isolating it. You're clipping it. You're isolating it. Well, you're isolating it from the rest of the audio. Taking the tracks apart, the created one for removing the background sound. Like for instance, I would be like, hey, I like big meat. Well that you cut that out, you're isolating it from the rest of the audio. I cannot lie. See? Mm hmm. We should have Adam Curry on the show, and he can explain where the term came from.
Oh, dude, I can't even get there. I'm sure you go to lunch. Good. Good luck getting him on the show. Well, maybe I know better luck. He likes me, literally. It's been a year since we got together, and I was near that area. I was at a buddy's ranch up there, and I'm like, Hey, dude, I haven't talked for a long time. I'm like, pretty close to you. Give me how I see what's going on. And then a couple of days later, I get a text message. That text message.
Yeah. Yeah, it's been a no, it's, it's, yeah, yeah. It's been a while. Okay. Yes, it has indeed. So that was it. Followed up by an invite for a nerd. Just this been busy. Okay. Well, you know. Well a busy, busy is good, I guess. I don't know. It's busy. I know that he is doing, what, five podcasts now? I keep trying to keep up with one more than him, which is why we're we're adding another. Of course.
But I think what you really just need to do is pick up a nice bottle of wine or two and then just text him with, Hey, I've got some wine you guys interested in? Hmm? I think they're full up on the wine. Dude, are you kidding? The same things happening to them that happen to the the whiskey school guys that I was around when they started the boxes. We just started coming in. Yeah. Exactly.
It's like as soon as people see you publicly as an alcoholic, I mean, a consumer of the alcoholic stuff, everybody wants to send you a gift. And those gifts are alcoholic. And pretty soon, you know, the whiskey guys were getting like 20 bottles of whiskey a day. That's ridiculous. They they had to move offices because they got too much whiskey. Which is a problem I wouldn't mind have. Well, that's really true, because I don't consume it anymore, so.
Yeah, but it's I think at this stage, Adam and Teen, they're pretty much getting that same thing with wine. They're getting bottles every week. Yeah, but are they are they the good bottles? I mean, you say you just need to elevate your wine game. It can't be a $20 or $30 wine. You have to get into the hundreds now. Well, I mean, if if I was going to spend $100 on a bottle of wine to give, there's only one guy I would send it to, and it wouldn't be Adam.
Oh, thank you. You'll be sending me some wine. That would be. John. Oh, well, wow. Because John appreciates wine. Oh, yeah, he understands good wine from and wine is this. And he's always replied to every single text about wine I've ever sent them. But see, there's no other text where Adam's the. No, no, no. He ignores all my other texts. But if I ever send John a photo of a label within 5 minutes, there's a reply back describing that wine. It is an impressive service.
He should charge for that. Right? Uh huh. It's like personal Somalia, pretty much. I mean, I'm like a sitting at a restaurant. What do you think clicked? You just well, it's got pretty complex flavors. If you get in it for under $75 bottle that it's worth doing. If it's more than that, don't bother you just set. The whole whitelist sometimes would be like, what should I be drinking here? No, no, no. That's dangerous because I know exactly what he's going to go for.
The most expensive bottle possible. It's not maybe the most expensive, but it ain't going to be cheap, that's for sure. So, no, I usually I wait until there's a selection or if I'm at a store and I find something that looks like a good bottle or like a good bottle for sale, then I might send something like that to him and then say, what are your thoughts here? What do you think?
And I saw an idiotic story the other day of a guy that was in one of Gordon Ramsay's restaurants and ordered a steak that he didn't realize. I will have to back up a little bit if the menu showed different steaks as different pricing where. Mm hmm. One of them was the price per like four ounces. And the other one was priced per ounce. And he thought it was also priced per four ounces. Oh. Yeah. So he got himself about a $400 steak. Wow. That's 100 bucks an ounce, I guess. I mean. It's insane.
It was you know what, though? It was ordered obviously more than four ounces. But what he thought he was getting, you know, at a price of whatever it was, way more he thought he was looking, hey, like this is 20 bucks for four ounces. Instead of 20 bucks per ounce. So can you still say, hey, well, yeah, give me a 12 ounce steak. I can afford that. That's great. Yeah. Until it's yeah. 28 ounce rather than 24. Well he may have been drinking a little too much then before ordering.
That's also very possible. Campbell. Now, the one thing I don't like is when they have market price. Yeah, on the. Menus, you're like, what is that? Okay, what is that? Well, because it's a spot market price and expect me to say, okay to ordering it. Well, yeah. Because nicer restaurants are they're not giving you the laminated menus that stick around for months at a time. They're usually giving you something they printed that day.
Yeah, well, in Austin, they don't give a shit, they make you scan a barcode. But yeah. Those assholes, they won't even give you a bet, you know. They that disappeared. Those menus disappeared with COVID. No nominees anymore. So your menu is just you have to have a device. Otherwise you what happens if you don't have a device? You're like, I'm a lunch. Shouldn't be eating. There. I don't have a I don't have a cell phone. No, sorry. Get out of Austin. That's just the restaurant.
We're going to take you. City limits. You'd be lucky if they let you use an Android phone. Wow. Really? It's an Apple ecosystem. Only kidding, Austin. It's the second biggest Apple hub after Silicon Valley. I believe it. They have I think they have 11 buildings here. Well, you will get fired, though, if you say you like to do affordable, big breasted women. Why would you do that in Austin? L down there in Texas, all you got are stairs, queers, the stairs. There's Texas and then there's Austin.
Yeah. Now Austin is it's an it's an exclave of California. Which is not a good selling point. Oh, it's a horrible selling point unless it's for people that want to move here from California. So it's basically it's an exclave of California with lower taxes. But are they still that much lower? You're catching up. Well, the city taxes are high. I think they're higher than the other city in Texas. But the the state taxes, the big that is a huge difference.
I mean, like none here in Texas and 8% in California. Yeah. It's like the selling point of Florida. Hey, we have no purview, no state income tax. I'm like, well, yeah, but you just got destroyed by a hurricane, so. Nobody got destroyed by a hurricane. That's a also hundreds of people died, according to news reports. Well, that's people that really voluntarily committed suicide. Yeah, well, this is true that taking the. I'm going to stay in my basement because I don't believe in hurricanes.
Uh huh. There was a guy allegedly to get Internet that had a video that said he was in Fort Myers, if I remember correctly, the 27th floor of his condo building. Then he didn't leave. Well, he didn't leave now. And they had water in the bathtub. The building. Was swaying. So much, the water was moving almost enough to come out of the tub. Mm hmm. I like. Holy crap. I mean, I know that what those buildings are designed to do them, but I don't know if I could.
If I could stay the building that was moving that much, it would freak me. It'd be a fun ride, but I wouldn't want to live there. Yeah. You know, and I wouldn't want to be there when a I. Mean, I've been in buildings, there's a tall building in, in Melbourne that I was in that is known for its swaying and you get up to the top floor for the observation deck, you can definitely feel the building swaying underneath you. It's not a it's not a good it's not a comforting feeling I would guess.
No, it's even if it's by design, uh, it's, it doesn't feel good to be up high and have your, your legs be moving underneath you. Yes. Is your immediate lizard brain thought of how high is this fall? Am I going to die? Yes, very. Yes. You're not you're not thinking like, oh, it's designed to swing back and forth. It's not a big deal, just a Z all day long. Yeah, we're perfectly safe is not what's natural. We like things that don't move underneath us. It is preferred.
I think it took a hell of a lot of evolution to even get up on that horse. Well, then, airplanes. Come on. Airplanes don't really move. That's the thing. Airplanes if. Well, how do you know that? No, that. They. They don't. They don't. Airplanes due to their nature of of flight, they they're very dissociative. They just go up in the air and have this. Blind taste around them. Well, that's true, too. It depends on the direction you're going.
But if you if you have the blinds down like you're taking a need flight other than for the first 3 minutes of takeoff or the 3 minutes prior to landing, good luck judging where you are and how fast you're going. Oh, that's. You can't tell you're stationary. Well, that's true. Which is why pilots have such a problem if you are flying blind quite often. Don't even know if you're upside down. What's, you know, what's called.
That's why you got to use instruments because your your brain, much like your eyeballs not being able to see a moving dart as a moving dot, but rather seeing it as a whole image, your brain compensates for all these things. So your inner ear that's telling you when things are in motion gets into a sink pattern where, Oh, well, it's the same motion all the time. Therefore, I'm going to say there's no motion. Yes, everything's fine. Nothing to worry about here.
Yeah. We're not going to plunge to our deaths if these big metal engines don't keep going. Yeah, yeah. So I think they tested I think we talked about the fact that Chicago other cities are getting ready to start doing air taxis more or less. And I saw they finally tested this electronic vehicle. And of course, you know, I guess I feel a little safer with the engines are made by Rolls Royce. That is a company. I would I would put a little bit of faith into. But it's a piloted thing. So BMW.
It's it has seating for four people. So it's basically a glorified car electric. It's not a helicopter. It's not exactly like the what's the big military vehicle where you have the rotors and the whole wing spins the Osprey? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Osprey. Yeah, it is. Not exactly that. But it's a similar concept where they have rotors that will let you take off and that they have wings that will let you. So it's kind of a combination platter which looks really cool vehicle 100 mile range.
And the goal is to have the cost of going from point A to point B be about the same as taking a traditional cab there. I'm wondering how far they're going to be. Like with that, huh? How much are they jacking up the cab prices? Exactly. Would have to be. Oh, it's $50 a block. Right, right. Well, if you had to layer, that's an extra surcharge. Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah. How badly do you want to get there? Safely, I. Guess. I just don't know what the need is for a a fleet of flying cabs.
Yeah, no, I hear you. But you would totally take one to the airport if you could. Well, yeah, of course. So maybe that's the deal, I guess. But I don't know. I think those that makes a lot more sense in a city that's got a lot of traffic. Yes. Yeah. L.A., for instance, right. To Chicago, I mean. Mm hmm. For sure. That's always been the dream, is to fly right over the traffic. Well, that's what we see in all the future movies like Blade Runner and stuff.
But you can't do it yourself because you can't have your own vehicle. You have to be reliant on. Well, I mean, didn't Adam like at one point and the one point being in 2001, right before the the building collapse on a helicopter company. Yeah. And I think that was kind of the goal as well, is to bring people that can afford it to the airport via helicopter instead of a car. A massive convenience. And I mean, I get it to go downtown because rush hour in Chicago sucks. Rush hour in L.A. sucks.
If you could just go from the suburbs into the heart of downtown, that people will pay for it. I get. It. Yeah. It's a beautiful thing. You don't want to sit in traffic. It just depends on how deep the kids are. Nobody likes to sit in traffic. But yeah, hopefully a lot of people are running it these days. Well they used to stay home. Shelter in place. Mm. Shelter in Mexico. ST Are you going to the same resort this time or are you trying something different? Same place.
Uh, Mr. Valdez, welcome back. Your sweet is waiting for you. I'm thinking of going back there again next month. You would think they would have your flip flops waiting for you there. Why don't you just tell them you need a friend? Hold these. Hold these until I'm back. Yes. Or just a fresh pair of flip flops. I mean, this is a high quality hotel. Like, do you have any extra requests that we could fulfill for you, sir? No, it's actually a resort. Nine. I hope so. Well, that's even better now.
That makes everything more expensive, right? But they could still they will still cater to every one of your needs unless you're afraid to pay $1,000 for a pair of flip flops. Mm. Mm hmm. I mean, you've had a real job recently. It's not like you're just a podcaster. That's true. You like you got. I didn't. Have. I'm still unemployed, but I did have a real job not too long ago. See? There you go. I'm surprised they even let you come to the resort.
They're like, Oh, you're currently between jobs now. Your social skills are not so good. It's. Yeah, well, there's ways to fix that. This is why you have so many different passports and identities. You fuck up whatever job you're like. I'll just go to the bank. Yeah, just get rid of that one. Yeah. That, that dudes go and start over. Yeah. But speaking of, speaking of heading off on vacation, I think we need to wrap this up a little early thing.
That's okay, because I still have to get some stuff done before I leave it. By early, you mean now? I mean pretty much right now. Yeah. We'll be back for next week, Friday. Or no, I'll be traveling on Friday. So we need to figure out whether we want to do it a day early or a day later or a couple of days later or something. What everybody should do is follow us on no agenda social and that the low.
Yeah no agenda the social like for the people that subscribe to the podcast, which everybody should be, it's not going to make any difference anyway. It'll show up in your app. When it shows up in your app, it's adjourning and it'll be ready whenever we deliver it. For anybody that's listening live on the stream, well, yeah, that's obviously a very small number of people, but for them we'll post something and they'll join the social once. We get that figure up.
Well, let's be careful out there, Jean. That's always the plan. If you're.