042: Good Old Boys

But you cut me off. Hello and welcome to episode number 42 of unrelenting. This is September 19th, a special Monday show, 2022. I am Darren O'Neill. He is Sir Jim or whatever alias he's going by this week. Good enough. And Joe Biden. Man Oh, my God. What an interview last night. Was there an interview? Yeah, he was on 60 Minutes. I don't even know why they let him do these things. Wow, that is shocking. I'm surprised they let him.

He is so out of touch with reality that I really just have to wonder anybody that's still going to vote Democrat how they can because Joe thinks it's okay. They're like the guy. Scott Pelley from 60 Minutes was the one doing the interview and Biden's like, Well, now it's only inflation's only gone up just like an inch over the last few months. And I'm wondering how Joe Biden measures inflation because in inches. Yeah, I don't know. That's great. Yeah. I know that.

To be fair, I am not good with numbers myself and I'm not an economist and I don't I don't study the economy. 24 seven But I've never heard anybody referred to it moving in inches. While he's looking at pictures. It's true they got they gave a big. So Joe, there's like a kindergarten kid and there's like a. Rose moved and then yeah there's a. Blackboard in the. Read it out. With the word. Dean Dean Martin from Biden impersonation.

They're like, hey, baby, I had I. Had a blond just pounded on my hotel door room all night long. I wouldn't let. Her out, boy, if I got a headache. He was great. Hmm. He was allegedly. He actually was not an alcoholic. No. He drank a lot of apple juice on stage now after his son passed away, he started drinking for real, but a lot. Of them did. During the heyday. Yeah, it was not reality. I think I told the story once here.

Then the one book I read, I don't remember which one because I've read quite a few. Read the book. Congratulations. Back when I had eyes, I read a lot of the stuff about Sinatra and the Rat Pack and Dean Martin, and one of them was a big party of Dean's, and all of a sudden the cops show up at like midnight or whatever, and Sinatra's really pissed, and he's asking the cops who called them which neighbors. And when he complained, it turns out Dean did. He was already up getting ready for bed.

He didn't want to break up the party himself, so he called the cops. Please come to my house and get Frank Sinatra and these other drunks out. Yeah, we'll just. Bleep. That doesn't happen anymore. There's no. There's no fun stories coming out of celebrity. You're not mean. There were some there were some questionable ones at that time. Do you? I'm sure they were, yeah. So do you get a lot of business done on Friday? I mean, we weren't here Friday because you were doing bidness. I didn't bidness.

Do because you are a professional. Yeah. Yeah. Our lunch three hour lunch. They to go to. You had to go do I mean if it was. Have to go. No, no choice was a good thing. And there is about a seven course lunch. Seven. Most people have a sandwich, Jim. Maybe soup if they're lucky. Uh huh, uh, I. Start with the fa guar players and then maybe. Maybe give me a 1942 Bordeaux. Mm hmm. Hmm hmm hmm. There was some of that. Yeah. Little drink. Well, the best business happens when you're drinking.

Yeah, I don't drink, though, so it's kind of strange, but. Yes, this is how you get the better deals. You're like. Why don't you just keep from that? I'm the one who's not drinking. I'll adjust the numbers on this contract by an inch. Well. Oh, nice setup. That was good, man. I'm still paying Joe. Very good with a blackboard. And they. There's staff just moves the word economy around on the board it's like it's only moved like an inch little. Yeah it's the word economy. Yeah. It's not the.

Oh no, you know. No exactly. That's exactly right. I couldn't have said it better. That explains it perfectly. You've crystallized my thoughts quite eloquently. Thank you for that. Yeah, that was a good time. Well, that's good. We know you got to do business because now you're a you're while you're a totally legitimate businessman, you're totally unemployed. This is the right without a job. So. Exactly. It's the business card change for those time periods.

Oh, no, no. It's it's fully legitimate, even if I'm not working. Have you finished it? Oh, I know you were working on a book. Oh, no, no, I. I have to work more. So I'm going to be flying off to Mexico again to work on the book. Do you only write while in Mexico? Is this a contract, the. Way the contract works? And who's paying for this? The surge. Oh, it's yes. The Business Unit, Division Inc, LLC. It is a huge it's a huge conglomerate, glamorous. You do not want to mess with these guys.

You can. No, no, no, no, no. They can break their legs. Believe me. They're like, Gene, that this time for you to go, right? We have a ticket from Mexico here. Whether they don't have a Polish accent, but. Yeah, sorry, I thought they did. Your handling around LAX? Not at all. No. I can say that as being half polish. Uh huh. A lot. Of people. Do you realize that with the name O'Neill? Well, Neal's a traditional Polish name. I mean, I don't see why people wouldn't think that.

I don't. Know. There's a guy really a looks like a fantastic hitter with the Pittsburgh Pirates now, whose first name is O'Neill, which is a new one to me. That's his name. That's black dude. It's yeah. Well he's from one of these, like the Caribbean country somewhere, but maybe South America somewhere. But yeah, his name's O'Neill Cruz. But first name O'Neill. So they must have really liked Tom Cruise and somebody else.

But that was still I don't think they changed their last name based upon watching Top Gun. Assumed their last. Name if. They're you. How dare you, sir? You never know. I guess people have picked weirder things for weirder reasons. You know, in in China, your last name is said first. So typically Americans think that Chinese people's first names are actually their last names. Yes. And you're saying it wrong if you refer to them otherwise.

And then it's it was there are big cultural differences. Mhm. But that was one of the other questions. Just like if you don't say sir in front of Gene you're referring to it wrong. No, no, that's absolutely right depending on the context. But that was of course one of the questions I give the guy from CNN or I'm sorry, 60 Minutes at CBS, give him some credit for asking the questions. But as usual, there's not much. Push, push all through. Right.

You know, he asked him about, well, are you going to you know, how would you respond with the whole China-Taiwan thing? And while Joe said nothing has changed with the policy, he said unless there was an unprecedented attack from China to Taiwan and Taiwan. Now, I don't know. I'm guessing he meant unprovoked because I don't know what that what that would mean in that to say, well, unless there's an unprecedented attack from China on to Taiwan, well, what does that mean, an unprecedented.

Like it's never been done before. Yeah. I mean, in war, I think everything's been done before. So I don't know. I mean, Joe doesn't know what words mean, but then he did double down when asked, Well, would you send American troops to defend Taiwan? And Joe said, yes. Oh, that's not what he was supposed to say. No, the White House has been scrambling, I guess, since this came out. And it's like, oh.

This is the kind of stuff that we forget about politics, forget about the fact that I think his family's a bunch of crooks. He just does not mentally know what he's saying anymore. No, he doesn't know what a Taiwan is. He's like, Yeah, what do I want a Taiwan on? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Where's the bottle, man? Got some Glenlivet. Yeah, that's a that's not a good thing because this is how you end up a nuclear war. Yes. When you when you say I'm going to go to war with China.

Yeah. Donald Trump took some folders out of the White House, but I mean, he was really horrible. Joe Biden. Well, I mean, folder stealing that's worse than treason. Yes, this is true. Those are very expensive folders. I mean, you see what they pay for toilets in Washington. Yeah. I mean, they probably paid a lot for those folders. I mean, it's almost as bad as my walking through a sign that says do not enter in saying on the red carpet between velvet ropes. That is still one of the biggest scam.

I mean, again, this is because the media reports and people just that everybody but a vast majority of people are just like, oh, yeah, that must be the reality. I mean, there was some violence that went on at the Capitol. I don't think anybody denies that. But looking at things as a whole, these are the same folks that went to a live shot. I forget which city they were in.

If it was Minneapolis at the time of the George Floyd or one of the other ones with where the there's literally burning buildings behind the guy and it's like, hey. It's mostly burning, mostly burning. This is just a mostly peaceful protest we're reporting out here. There's like a building burning right behind you. So these are the same people that have that view of reality, which is like, well, yeah, they're burning buildings down, but this is otherwise this is, you know.

Well, actually, part of that is just being partly peaceful. I mean, I guess you could say it's a most of the true statement. Yeah. And not every building is burning and not every person is carrying a torch. Only 49%, you see. So we're right on the money here. Mm. We are right on the money Illinois.

A lot of people are going to be carrying torches now that the purge laws going in and there is still time and I know there's some confusion about that, but there are multiple attorneys, you know, that work for the different counties here in Illinois that are already suing to get this new law that's supposed to go into effect on January 1st, stopped everybody calling it the purge law because it's basically commit any crime. We're not going to hold you on bail. And I don't. Know. What people.

So it's a a.k.a the, uh, the promotion of Gun Sales Act of Illinois 2022 law. Yeah. Well, this is, that's what it's going to do. It will guns have been through the roof and it's interesting because you don't see this on the liberal media. I've seen this in a few places. I mean, conservative media reporting that month after month the FBI background checks and gun sales, mainly handgun sales. Mm. Are well over a million a month in the United States and have been for like a couple of years now.

That's a lot that's millions and millions of guns new that have just hit the streets in the last couple of years. It's like this is something where when you go and say, well, we need to ban all guns, it's like you can't put the genie back in the bottle. Nobody can ever explain how they're going to take care of that. This is the same thing as the twit Kamala Harris offering her solution. You calling her a twit? Yes. Is that being too nice? Well, I don't know.

I think you might get sued by somebody in California. By giving twits a bad name, but. Yeah. It pulls back her into that category. Well, no, we could just. Let's just make all these people legal citizens that'll take care of the problem. And it's like, well, where are they fucking going to sleep. I it this is the problem is there is no place for them to stay. Yeah. I think it's been proven a good experiment to just ship them all to Martha's Vineyard period.

From now on until Martha's Vineyard gets its act together. I agree. I mean, it shows the hypocrisy when the people they're like, well, they can't stay here. But why why do you think they should stay in Texas? They should stay in Texas, where they came to from. It's like I just don't understand the overall hypocrisy of all these people that have that mindset, still have not opened up their minds and went, Oh, wow, wait, this is a problem. I get it now. There's no place for these folks to go.

And this whole oh, there the Republicans are using them as pawns. It's like, well, the Democrats have been using them as pawns for the last 20 years. 20 more. So, yeah. Yeah. You know, that's that's the hilarity here. It's like, oh, now it's coming to your backyard. And it's funny because we've talked about it.

I'm sure the fact that all these sanctuary cities, whether it's San Francisco or Chicago or New York, oh, yeah, it's a really big game until there's a train load of migrants that are being shipped here. And now you're like, I can't handle that. Well, not certainly where those people are. I mean, that's not they're not meant to be in nice places like that. No, let's put them in. Obama's house. They've got like a $14 million me. Somebody compare them to trash.

Yes. Yes. And that was quickly removed. The the I forget which Democrats. Well that's what you do with trash and that uh huh. That this is that was the the correlation they made which was bringing migrants from Texas to wherever this was was the same as me taking my trash and throwing it out my neighbor's yard or something. It's like, Oh, crap. Did you just say that. They'd be pretty wild?

Yeah. Yeah. Well, it shows the braindead nature of a lot of the people on the left who just don't understand. It's like what you're. What you're pointing out is absolutely correct, which is the only answer is to get a solution to the problem so it doesn't happen in the first place. And the only way to do that is close the border to not let people in unchecked. That's how you fix the problem. And that's what the Democrats specifically do not want to do.

So this is why I just can't believe it took this long, really, for the lawmakers like DeSantis and Abbott to start going, hey, you know what would be a really good idea? Let's get busses and trains and planes and just move them to the cities that say they want them that are Democrat that, you know. Three one way tickets. Yes. Because this would have backfired completely if any of these cities.

And it's been an overall freak out in Washington DC, Chicago, D.C., one of the National Guard Martha's Vineyard wanted the National Guard. Mm hmm. And didn't the Martha's in the putting them all in prison. Anyway, I think. This under Cape Cod was. They'd get rid of them. Cape Cod. Yeah. They're just moving them on down the line. Yeah. But I mean I think they moved them not just to. Here is Cape Cod. You can walk around the little shops and don't hurt the gay people too much.

But no, I think they they moved them to a military facility in like they have. Right? Yeah. No, I mean, I don't know the details, but I'm not looking on the page. But it seemed like somebody mentioned that, that it was a it was like a national army base where they set up temporary restraining locations for them. There basically in a zoo. Now they're surrounded by metal cages. That's kind of the point that they all make fun of Texas for doing on the border.

Now they get to do that in Massachusetts. Because they realize there's no other solution because there's no place to house these people. Yeah, but the problem, as far as they're concerned, was with the shipment of these people, not them crossing the border. Right. Because it's horrible for them to send the people to New York or Chicago or Washington, D.C. or Martha's Vineyard, where they're like, hey, we don't have room for them. Well, Texas. Doesn't have room for them either, assholes.

That's the problem. Now, any of these city and. And Texas didn't get two airplanes worth. Texas kills like a million of them. Take what you've got in here and multiply that by a thousand. And that's kind of what Texas is doing. But any of these cities could have backfired. This made this backfire, I guess, is a better way to say that Texas would have been. Oh, yes, this is great. Thank you. We will take care of them.

Now, one of these days where he said he did that, not one was like, oh, yes, we'll take this opportunity to show that we're going to put our money where our mouth is. We can handle the situation exactly the way we said we could. Every last one of them. Now, they're all indignant. Yeah. That's hilarious to me. It's like, what do you indignant about? You said you were a sanctuary city. Anybody that wants to, you should come. But not Cape Cod. I mean, really, please. Yes. Yes, we have to if we can.

We can't let the employer mess with the with the regular folks. Know the whole point of having sanctuary cities is so that Cape Cod doesn't have to deal stuff. With the sanctuary cities don't even want to take them. Now, of course, that. Because again, they're already running themselves into the ground with the programs that they have. I think it was Denver has a new program where they're spending like 2 million bucks just giving homeless people you by universal basic income.

Mm hmm. Yeah, I need to sign up for that. Yeah, it's a where do you think this is going? How do you think this is going to work? And do you think that the people you're giving the money to when they're just already out on the street? I mean, when you look at the homeless problem, you realize that a vast majority of the people that are homeless have a mental illness or are drug addicts. Right. Which some argue is a mental illness. Maybe it is. Maybe it's not. I don't know.

But they're in. A. State where giving them this. Money. Is not going to make their life better. It could very possibly make it worse or kill them because they're probably going to just go buy drugs. Putting that money into community housing would make more sense to me to be like, Well, we're going to have a facility where people can stay. This whole were handing out cash to people. Now it just doesn't work. It does not work. I'll say just buy their drugs. Well, that's it.

They shouldn't be buying drugs. Have places for them to stay, have places that provide them with some meals. I mean, get get some of these get some of these world corporations on board, provide your product if you want to sell your Cheetos or whatever it is, you have to have it sponsored by companies that can help provide what you need. You don't have it sponsored by the Mypillow guy. Hey, come in. Every cot has a mypillow pillow. I don't think the Mypillow guys probably walk right now.

Oh, no, he's not. He's the opposite of being. Well, I'm just saying, if you need somebody to come in, I didn't really want to, you know, mention any corporation that I didn't know whether they were woke or not and put them on board with with that. But there's way better ideas. Disney. Disney, my friend, I am having so much fun watching the news about Disney. And I am a guy that was always a huge Disney fan until they went nutso. Woke. We went to Moon 41. Well, it wasn't horrible.

That they were supporting Ukraine back then. The nineties, I don't know where they supported was Ukraine around in 1989. Disney was a Nazi. Yeah, well, that's, you know, at least they were doing it in a fun way. But watching the news now, where the people that are going there in a lot of this stuff is coming from Disney blogs. It's amazing to me. I started following this. As I said, we used to go off a couple of times, you know, every every few years we'd be going to Disney.

So there is a huge industry around Disney. There have been websites and newsletters and all this devoted to Disney and what's coming new and what's going on.

The amount of people who are saying that the park is in disarray, half the rides are broken down and I'm not exaggerating saying half the rides are like we go into the park and like half the rides are broken down and the rides that are still working, a lot of the stuff in the rides aren't working because, you know, Disney does a lot with these little animatronic stuff.

And while you might to do the ride and you know this character, only one guy is working and this one's kind of broken down and and they're saying it's filthy that the garbage isn't being picked up. That's one thing I'll say. I mean, I haven't been to Disney in like ten plus years, but every time that I went to Disney World, it was like a magical place because with all the people that were around, I mean, every now and then you'd see some popcorn and stuff on the street.

But overall it was like one of the cleanest places you would ever be because they had a staff that was doing nothing but cleaning up. No. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Disney doesn't have a staff. They have performers. They have cast members. Yes. Let's not get anybody into trouble. Then once you learned about the stuff like the garbage, you know, empties itself into the street below. This is why you don't see anybody, you know, replacing garbage cans and stuff or emptying them in Disney.

It's because it's all magic. And this whole system was put into place that allowed for this. But when COVID hit especially, it seems they cut staff, they cut people that obviously do the stuff like maintaining and fixing the rides. Maybe they just. Didn't have at least for booster shots. You can't work at Disney. Well, you have to have at least two a week. I think. See, Brooklyn, watch it off. This show is live. The show is rarely live. See Brooklyn. Yeah it's a monday.

Yeah I'm I'm not sure if the show should be ever allowed to be live. I mean, I'm, I'm debating that answer. Is like you should always be Memorex or just the show should just go away. Well, I'm not sure. I mean, never. We've produced this. You know, it's a lot of work. We have to go in and and create this sort of false idea that we're actually talking to each other. We actually have a script and we pre-record our parts ahead of time. You know.

Send it in to a production facility where they cut it up and see that was canned. LAUGHTER In case anybody's wondering, a little behind the scenes, guys. That's just like you can always hear the same guy laughing on the old laugh tracks. That's right. Same thing here. But I think they do a damn good job. I mean, at that the five grand the week that we pay them, I think they're probably getting their money's worth.

Well, really we would have to do is talk and read a script and then they would just be able to air the whole show. We would never actually have to talk to each other ever again. It would just sound like we work. Well, that be the next step. I mean, I'd love for us to get to that point because they've been. Nothing but the best show ever. I think it would be I think it would be.

In how many people would would be able to figure out that it was not organic, that it was all just even not just the voices being a guy, but the topics isn't the conversation. Mm mm. Yes. Am I. I'm looking forward to the future. I can't stand if I look at YouTube videos, mainly to put clips together for one of the other shows I do, which is also today, Planet Rage. You have a clip. Show with Larry Blender. We do. We bring clips. To play clips for. Just to show what's going on in the world.

And they're either they're either rage inducing clips or I pull like four different Biden clips because they will induce rage when you hear what he's saying. That's true. Yeah. So but for that reason, then pretty much that reason only I look through YouTube videos and I usually throw it in a filter like, well, anything that says radio. Or the pitch, I get. It right. And when I come across the videos that are a computer generated audio over just rap. Yeah, I'm like, I cannot stand that.

There are so many of these Chinese sites now. This is becoming a serious problem with YouTube is that, yes, it's more and more of these recommended channels are really and I say Chinese not because necessarily they're all Chinese. Some are Indian, some are African.

But these are non-native English speaker production facilities that use text to speech and usually with Google Translate, but they have a neutral American voice where the text of speech and the way that you can tell, I mean, there's multiple ways to tell. That's what they are. But they'll show clips that they've gotten from other videos and then have their own narration. Yes, they're country. Yeah. Talking over it.

But there will be grammatical errors and there won't really be anything horribly interesting. But then you look at how many subscribers they have. This tells you how stupid the population is. You know, a lot of them have a million subscribers. Yeah. Which means they're making decent money. They're making you. Well, you know, I mean, for probably for one of those daily video they kind of site, they're probably employing

couple of people in China, you know, a buck an hour. So not much for expenses, but they're making a couple hundred thousand dollars a year. Which is way more than the show is. And they're doing, yeah, a little bit more, but they're doing a lot. A lot of these channels like on any topic you can think of, I watch a lot of space related stuff and there's a new one of these types of channels popping up almost every other week.

Well, I think it's because that so many people just put YouTube on and set it to just play the next recommended videos. They leave it out always like background noise. Yep, I do those. And this is where they win that game because it's way easier to get. YouTube doesn't care. They don't care what they play as long as it's getting. You know, anyone that's got at least a thousand subscribers, that's kind of the minimum is going to get at some point into the recommended by YouTube pile.

And we just need to be recommended, as I said, this episode not one donation. I mean, so we're relying on boost to Graham's. Yes. Well, I'm glad people have listened to me and stop doing anything. So, like, good job, everybody. Good job. Hey. We are the only podcast that says whatever you do, do not donate to this panel. All my podcasts say that. And people listen. Everything you want to see and the audience is growing, believe it or not.

Until you come down and you're like, Hey, I'm now on Spotify only. For Joe Rogan, you mean, right? Yeah. Pull the Rogan. Uh huh. Well there are. Various ways to. Yeah. Just give me five more years now for. The monetizing podcast and they are work even shows like this one. Are worth. When it comes down to it because one you're putting the time in to generate the script. There is you know there is some post work there is having to keep your website up and all that.

I'm not saying it's a ton of work once you have the right equipment and know what you're doing, but there's work involved and compared to what these YouTube videos we just talking about, there's way more work involved, especially again when you do a text to speech, it's like, well, okay, you're probably just clipping somebody else's words to. No, I think they're they're using the Google translate because like I said, a lot of times the the grammar is like, great, right?

So they're taking like a Chinese news source and then converting it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. So I work. Yes. I work that company that that well, not quite that. But they had articles that were like, let's just say articles about camping that they were putting out. Let's just say camping. Camping. And they were putting those articles out. Yeah, you know, maybe not every day, but sometimes a week or something.

But they had to be a lot of writing happening right by somebody that understands camping and of course, what's the cheapest place you can write those? Well, not China, but the Philippines. As people in the Philippines, you know, they kind of have to camp because they don't make a lot of money. And so you you get these. And in the Philippines, most people know English. So you get these articles sent in that are actually grammatically fine. They're in English.

But then the topics you're like, you know how to capture and cook the best size because things, uh, have them and I'm picturing it in my head use or l know I was. How about tri scorpion? Oh, a scorpion. Sure. Yes. How to capture and cook the best is perfect. Now, this may be an interesting article, but it's not horribly useful for camping. You don't have a lot of scorpions around when you're camping. We do have a lot of scorpions. We have a ton of scorpions here.

I don't know any Americans that are going to voluntarily eat one. But if you were really hungry, you might. We're in other countries. Those are a delicacy. And they will be here. Soon. I mean, maybe an article about, I don't know, capturing and cooking a large sized rabbit would be more useful possibly. Or you know, how to get a signal out. Sure. They have those in the Philippines, though, you get. Your cell phone to get a number and for some. Yeah, not right here. Like how to.

Get how to bring good camping food using Uber foods. Yeah. If you could find an Uber eats guy that'll come out into the woods. Oh, they'll come out. They'll always come. Out with that. You don't even have to tip them. It's great. They love it when you don't tip them. Yeah. They tell you in their day. Thanks for the tip, man. Every time you don't tip somebody, you get it. Hey, thanks for the tip. There's a lot I first I don't know this. I've heard this.

Well, I've seen again there's like people that are in this seems to pop up more. I mean, it's always around, but it seems to be popping up a little bit more now that, you know, Joey's around the economy, that people feel like tipping is optional so they don't have to tip. There was an article where there was like somebody sitting at a table. I think this was like in New York and whatever restaurant, like a big group came in and none of the servers at the restaurant because they knew this person.

None of them would take the table. And this this, of course, brought a discussion down again to the fact that tipping is optional should people aren't required to tip. And it's like but you kind of are because it's a it's a social contract. If you go out to a table service meal. Right. You are expected to tip the server. Now I get the argument of I just want to go out. Me Why don't you just add this? But that's not the way our culture is here.

AM There are some restaurants that do that and some have been very successful with that. But for the restaurants that aren't, I just don't understand. This is kind of the same thing. Like I don't understand the mentality of people who don't realize it's hypocrisy to not want the migrants in Martha's Vineyard. It's also hypocrisy for people to understand that servers rely on tips to then go in and be like, Well, I don't have to tip you right. You think that's okay because it's optional? Hmm.

It's like. No, I mean, I understand the argument that it should just be added into the bill, but it's not. And, you know, it's not so you know, the right thing to do. And I'm not saying you have to tip 20, 25, 30%, but there's a social contract there and there's a lot of social contract that gets going by the wayside because people just aren't polite to each other anymore either. But it's like tipping is is part of how those folks make money if they're in the service industry. And with that.

Money and yeah, and it is I think it's the wrong approach, honestly, because what we should have is more of a system that some European countries have. And I think some Asian countries do, where there is no tip. You know, the standard is if everything's okay, you don't need to worry about tipping and if something is outstanding and above and beyond, then you're welcome to. Right. So the tip is not part of the wage. It is true assumption. It is truly optional.

Not the way that I think Uber and a few other food delivery companies do it is they guarantee a minimum amount of money per hour or per delivery or however they break it down to people. But and here's the big but I think a lot of people signing up as drivers don't realize because they don't read them contract is that that is a guaranteed number that includes tips. And if the tips are lower than that, then Uber will pitch in and make up the difference. So you still get the minimum guaranteed.

But if people are tipping at say, I don't know what's an average tip amounts. For some good tips, it's like 20%. Yeah, let's say ten. But if it's that everybody tips a ten, then Uber doesn't have to pitch in at all. But your amount hasn't changed. So whether you get tips or whether you don't get tips, you're making the same amount of money until you get to a certain threshold. Because if you're not getting tips, you're still going to get essentially a tip from Uber themselves.

Right. But I think that that system doesn't really encourage people to like it creates a big step instead of a gradual ascent. So you have to get to a point where everybody's tipping over 10% to be able to make more than the minimum. Or you could just be really shitty and not care how well of a job you do, and then you're still making the same amount of money. Right? Well, that's in there. If you're a customer, you have to understand the ratings go both ways.

So if you're a customer who does not tip and that goes into these systems, this goes into the app. So the next time you order food and it takes 3 hours for somebody to pick up your order, you'll know why. Three. I mean, it's always three. What are you talking about? Okay, you know, did I get it? But no, I didn't say the tip. I'm just saying it's usually three hour wait. They're just busy. They're busy all the time. Yeah, they are so busy. But it's the same concept what you're describing

as working on commission, which I did last year when I worked. For. Circuit City, where service was state of the art. And at Circuit City it was a two week pay period and there was the minimum that you could make per hour. And there were times where business sucked. We all know you weren't making that in November and December because there was so much going on and there were so many sales coming in.

But in the slower time, because it was a two week pay period, you quite often knew after 3 to 5 days into that 14 day pay period that you were never going to climb your way out. So there was no incentive to do any work whatsoever. We would avoid customers at that time because it was like, I'm getting paid the same no matter what. Hmm. That's when the employees would go hide, you know, because it was like, no. Yeah, right. It was, it.

It was a horrible system because it wasn't as you said, if you were getting paid X amount per hour and then any commission you made above and beyond that, then people are incentivized to work their ass off and go for every sale. The minute you're like, Hey, you have to make X amount in order to start making commission for those pay periods that were off. People just didn't care. And your stores suffered because employees did not want to wait on customers

because that wasn't going to make them any money. Yep. So that's something I still haven't figured out about human nature. But the people, at. Least the people, they gladly go on to YouTube and be like, I'm not tipping off this. It's optional. I don't want to tip it. If people have a problem with that, they can kiss my ass. It's like, you know, they're going to spit in your food. You know, you're going to get worse than that.

And you know that you're just a horrible if you intentionally go out even thinking, I could get the greatest service I've ever gotten as a restaurant, but I don't believe in tipping, so I'm not going to tip then. Well, let's go out to eat now. You can go out to eat in Austin because Austin has a bunch of restaurants that are very gung ho about proclaiming that they have a fair age and tips are not required at all. We'll see those. And the. Food prices are usually double right.

Now. If you'd rather do that, that's fine. I think I think this has something to do with the whole millennial concept. But they're always spilling your food no matter what. Oh, right. So that's fair. It's equity. Yeah, but. That was the other thing people don't realize. Yeah, okay. You want the tipping to be included. Well, here's the thing then. The restaurant's going to add in.

If they're if you're giving them the ability to do that, then they're going to add in, you know, 20 or 30% more to cover everything because the restaurant is going to want their cut and it takes it out of your hands as the consumer then. Right. So basically then you get shitty service and since there's no tip, there's no way to train them that hey, you had seriously service, therefore you didn't get to know they had shitty service and they still got a tip. Uh huh.

Which also didn't. The restaurant enforces. It's the same thing that is I was just talking about, which is now your server does not care whether you're happy or not. They're getting paid the same amount of money. Yeah, it's called socialism. And how does socialism usually work out? Pretty well. I know. For the people in charge, just like everything else now, it's it's a it's a scary world. We're going down.

And then I think my my other co-host so well is that right now the U.S. and Russia are ships passing in the night in opposite directions that seems about. Fair for what's going on politically? Mm hmm. And when it comes down to personal freedoms and business. Yeah, like getting on the gold standard, having a good climate for a small business, having lower taxes. Oh, oh, no. That's not the U.S.. No, that's Russia having a country. Having a country with a predominantly Christian population.

Yep. That's still Russia. Looks better and better. A country that has actual laws against pedophilia and getting kids pulled into adult sexual content. They're a country that has a women here. I mean, look, there's still some negatives here. I need to know one thing. How do you get there? How many ten year old children in Russia have transitioned to the other sex? I want to know that. I did too.

I don't have the figures on that, but my suspicion is probably zero because the a doctor doing that wouldn't get past even just talking about doing it because I think it's actually a crime for that for him to have discussed this with a child. Now, are there people getting the trans operations that are adults? Yes. That is not banned in the Russia, contrary to popular belief. So really, it probably comes down to about Russia anyway.

People here in the United States, the only thing they really don't like is Putin. So if we had a new leader in Russia, is Russia now like the the greatest country that everybody should go move to if if it was not for the leader? Well, I'm like the United States. Russia does not have an open border. Well, see that's smart because they don't have places to put everybody. Mhm. Yeah. Nobody just. Doing open border. Now. They did for a while.

I will say that you know after the breakup of the Soviet Union it was very easy to get into Russia, to get out of Russia, to, you know, do whatever you wanted to do in Russia. It was a the kind of climate that allowed oligarchs to flourish. And they did. Yeah. And oligarchs, people still don't know what that term means. That means people like Bill Gates, rich people that that have made money in some type of quasi legitimate monopoly.

Microsoft, and then leverage that money to get themselves involved in more political. And, you know, even if they're not in office, they're doing things as essentially NGO. Yeah, they're pulling the strings. They're pulling the strings. Exactly. Which incidentally, one of those oligarchs wasn't happy with some deals that he was getting from Russia. He happened to have been a Ukrainian guy and he got so pissed off that he said, it's the change the government in Ukraine.

And he did he successfully did he figure out a way to do it by courting the US, providing direct funding and staging a a coup that takes over in Ukraine and. Billions in. Funding? And I don't think, well, the Ukraine got billions in funding. He didn't have to provide billions in funding. He was a man. Coming for you. Is that the. Yeah. I think so. You're overlooking sending. Messages. It's like the. Yeah, the overlords at Amazon are starting to send messages.

Well, that was the thing that Biden was asked about. The support election trade. Yes. Oh, support for Ukraine and really what the limit was for how much the United States was going to dove into this. No limit. Right. Exactly what he said. We're going to keep sending money until Russia is no longer. This should scare. Everybody. Hmm. Uncle Joe doesn't know what he's doing. Please never know what he's doing. He's insane. He has no brain. Well, this may be true.

That may have been removed for medical reasons. Yep. He's got just a little Alexa in his head. A little bit. Yeah. Kind of makes sense. But don't go out to dinner if you're planning on not tipping to him saying, well, buy your own damn food and cook your own damn food, then yeah. You realize that if you say that it's going to bankrupt the restaurant business, right? Well that's what they want anyway. Yeah, it's already getting there.

It is already getting there because of the fact and the price of everything. I was reading an article the other day about Italian restaurant here in the suburbs. You know, they've been around for 60 years. I think they have like three restaurants in the area. Now and. They're like, we don't know if we're going to make it through this one. This the cost of everything has gone up so much, which of course means the cost of food goes up. My wife and I went out the other day. After.

I was a see the retina guy, so get my eyes nice and dilated and that's fun. I know it ruins the rest of the day. It really does. You can't read a damn thing. Yeah, you should do those in the late afternoon and. Then just go to bed. Yeah. But the, you know, we each had a sandwich, you know, we came with soup and fries, but it was 35 bucks for two sandwiches. Price sounds pretty. Cheap. These well for you. Maybe that's cheap. In Austin that buys you and I see.

This is that that's probably true but I mean this is a you know this is a place that's I won't say on par with a Denny's but it's it's a slightly better version. Only open for breakfast and lunch, you know, a little better quality food than Denny's. But it's just a regular little diner kind of a place. So it's like two sandwiches, 35 bucks. It's like, that's not long ago. That would have been like 20 bucks. Yeah, yeah, that's true.

You know, I just ordered some vitamin D. Kind of vitamin D3, man. Yeah, I like my vitamin D. It's good stuff. And the the price per bottle at Walgreens is 25 bucks now. Not for vitamin D. For a 60 capsule vitamin display. Holy cow. So I think last time I it it was about half that price. But I checked. I actually checked. That was Walgreens. I also checked what the hell? The other one called I checked another drugstore just because I was thinking, no, this has to be a mistake. That's crazy.

Yes. Within the same kind of pricing. So yeah, there's that is we don't have inflation or there's only an inch of it. Our prices on supplements have doubled now. Now we get now the these are the ones we've gotten. That. Nature the 5000 IU D3 180 for 14 bucks. Yeah so I gave nature made 10,000. 1036 holy crap. 6060 capsules 23 bucks. To do your shopping and Amazon.

Well but the thing about buying stuff like that on Amazon is it's coming directly from China where they print the label and have nothing which brand, nothing to do with the brand but would come on dude, it's all fake. I'm telling you right now it's all fake products at Amazon. Everything's fake. It's not real. It's not real. If they're if you I, I will challenge you to buy nature made from Amazon and then call nature made and complain about something. And they will tell you, Oh, I'm sorry, sir.

That's actually a fake product. That's not ours. We only sell in retail stores. Well, Amazon is a retail store, but I know. They're I'm just telling you what they're going to tell you. That's the third party I have to look at now. Will the will up, you can get a Bible that has. Oh, sure. If first they take a photo. Did they take a photo of a brand. What if I take to look at the product next to the other will that you say that will be different.

And you don't have to you don't have to have to open the damn thing. You can keep it leave it closed and and refunded. But if you call up nature made and you say, I've got a problem with this bottle that I bought on Amazon, they will tell you that only sell retail and that is contra. Contra, what's the word? Not contraband. That's Contra counterfeits. Fake bottle, counterfeit. That's the one counterfeit. Yeah. So, but go ahead, buy that Amazon if you prefer. We're all going to die.

Yeah, there's you have to see Amazon has no liability for selling fake stuff because they can always just take it back. Let it straight is I still don't understand the the reasoning why Amazon let's be I mean I get it they make money wear whatever they're selling so if they're selling a book or whatever and you're like, Hey, I have that same SKU, I want to sell it for cheaper. Mm. They'll let you do that. Through. Them, which just seems very strange.

It's a very flea market kind of thing, which is why I have. Well, that was the that literally was the piece that took them from $1,000,000,000 company to $1,000,000,000,000 company is opening it up to anybody. And any time saying, oh, I have that also.

Which is why I always look in make sure it's being shipped and sold from Amazon because even if it's like, Oh, it's shipped from Amazon, but it's being sourced somewhere else, then yes, I start worrying about not just with vitamins and stuff like that, with anything with the legitimacy, because there's a lot of stuff.

I was buying a couple of things from my dad who collects all the baseball cards and stuff like that and of course they jump on the listing of the company that makes, you know, the really good holders for the baseballs or the cards, you know, with UV protection and all that kind of stuff. And they jump on that and say that's what they're selling. But then what you get is some weird generic thing that is not the same, and it's like, I don't understand.

Amazon has no control. Over. What people are selling when they jump onto those listings because they're like, Oh yeah, we're so nice, you Villalba bubble. Oh, that's great. And then you get it. And it's not. As you said, Amazon just goes, Oh, hey, we'll return it. Yeah. I mean, they don't care if if they accept the return, they don't even ship it back to the seller. Nope. They just charge the seller the full refund amount and. Then they put it on a pallet.

And then they put it into a pallet with a box of this, you know, surprised by $800 contains over $2,000 worth of product that they're not. Determined. I'd consider that just for content and just to see if. They are extremely accurate with their pricing on those things. I've watched a number of videos of people buying those and when they assert through all that stuff, the retail price to be double.

But if you wanted to actually see how much can I actually give each of these things for what you end up is a total price. That's Very similar to what you just paid to Amazon. Yeah. Remember, they, they have all the barcode, they know what everything's worth, they know what the retail price and they know what the discount price and they know what the wholesale price and everything it. So why would they mark their boxes with any major loss? Because it's only because.

They it's a. Concept. Right. Well, that's the thing with the returns is you have to assume that a certain percentage of those are actually defective nonworking things. So if somebody returns a laptop, you know, Amazon has no idea you could buy a $5,000 laptop. And maybe if the price gets to a certain amount, maybe it's treated differently. But for most items you return it. They do not care if it's working or not. They're just going to throw it on the palette to resell it.

And it's quite possible that half the stuff on the palette you buy is not even going to be in working order. Mm hmm. I mean, they just want to get some kind of money out of there. So in watching the videos, every single thing was in the working order. The biggest difference were some items had blemishes, meaning somebody opened up a box with a knife, and the knife actually cut through the packaging and put a gouge into the brow. Like, yeah, we don't want that.

And it's like, Oh, that was damaged in shipping. Yeah, we'll have to return that. Uh huh. Well that was, that is, has not always been good with packing stuff. Well not no they just check it in the box that's all they do that their packaging is basically a cardboard box. I don't know. You're lucky. There's a little bit of air bags in there. Oh, yeah. If you're lucky. If you're lucky. We went through a run and it was on sale. This was a great price. They were selling lithographs.

Okay, so they were just really more or less just a nicer poster. MM. That Steiner Sports was liquidating, I guess. So Amazon had X amount of these things and it was a lithograph signed by a bunch of guys who had thrown perfect games. So I think it was like five or six autographs of the lithograph and they were selling them cheap. And I'm like, This is a great bargain. Great bargain. So I ordered one or two of them and this was literally like a poster not in a tube, just thrown in a box.

Yeah. So it got crinkled and destroyed. So I'm like, no, they sent me two more crinkled and destroyed. No. Can you ship these correctly? Oh yeah. We'll take care of it this time. Two more crinkled and destroyed. Oh, my God. I'm just like, this is horrible. We never did get one that was legit to where we kept it ever. Really. Wow. I think we went through eight of them. That holy cow. Just constantly sending and constantly destroying. It's like, how do you not know that?

You can't just throw a large piece of paper more or less into a box, even though one of them the ups, because this is a box that was huge. I forget how large the lithograph was, but it was in a huge box that got dented because of the fact that it was a massive box that weighed nothing. It was. Basically. Box with a piece of paper inside, but of course, the box getting smashed. Of course. Then the paper got smashed. Yeah. So it's like, come on. I mean, put it in the tube.

Is is that so hard to figure out? Do you not have tubes? You know, that's nuts, man. With all of the money that they spent to ship. What? My favorite. Probably was still with Amazon was we ordered a black color sent for a bathroom when we moved in here. And it was Amazon, of course. So you get free shipping. Yeah. They sent White. Instead. So they came on their dime, of course, had to send ups to pick that one back up and sent another one.

And I'm just thinking two extra shipping for something that weighs a lot. Yeah. Like what? That had to cost them to make that mistake. But they didn't make you take that back to Kohl's. No. No, I don't think Kohl's was doing it at the time. But it's like the. Okay. One that's way too damn expensive to try or heavy to try to deal with. Yeah, I got a how. What was it. It was a bed frame that way, but they just didn't make me shipped back. It let me keep it. That's it. That's better.

Yeah. And there's, this is something. Did we talk about that because there was an article a few months back that a lot of these retailers are moving to that concept, which is just when people say they want to return something to just be like, okay, we'll refund you, but keep it. And I'm like, how does that not go horribly wrong? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he was not going to do that then. Because here's the here's like here's the scam. I know, right?

When it comes to, you know, Amazon or any of these online retailers, if you get an item and you're like, Oh, well, maybe I can try to get this free if you contact them and say, I want to return this. Well, if they say return it to them, well, then you just don't, because the return doesn't process until they get it. Yeah, but everything you get, I would be like, yeah, I want to return this. And for the stuff that he's telling you just to keep for free, you're like, Hey, I win. Yeah, that's true.

I think at some point they would just cut you off. Well, they would have to. And that would be the the only way to take care of that, be on an address or customer basis to be like, hey, if you've done this more than X amount of times, then we won't we won't offer this to you again. But for things that are cheap, I get it. Like we ordered a a vinyl record for Christmas last year for my dad and we ordered an Elvis Presley.

The album that came in was not Elvis Presley, and it was an artist I'd never heard of. And it's just like, Well, it's probably going to cost you more to have it shipped back to you than it's really worth. But they took it back. In the case like that, I can see where they might just be like, Yeah, just keep that in will or send another is the return process has to be a pain in the ass. And like you said, I don't know what they have to do to prove they took a return in order for them, so.

Oh, okay, we got to return on this album. Well, do they send that back? You know, does that add up by the pallet? If it ends up by the pallet, how does the manufacturer that was selling this know. Right. That they got a return? I was working at a bookstore way back when in the eighties. I'm guessing maybe they still do it this way with the paperback books. When the books didn't sell and they were being taken out of inventory, the books did go back. Paid for back cover something. Yeah.

The front cover was all they had to return for the credit. Yep. Yep. Which means I had like boxes of books that just didn't have a front cover and they were all just free because they were going towards. So, I mean the people working there didn't care. But, you know, legally those were supposed to be thrown in the garbage. Yeah, yeah. But now you can still read them. I mean, you can still read a book without a cover bleep.

But that was, you know, that was the intriguing thing there for how they got their for their money back on that. So with the Amazon thing, I can understand, like, okay, we don't really need the product back, we're just going to trust you to a certain point. But I can't even imagine what kind of a pain in the ass it would be to process returns that quantity.

Yeah. Yeah. I think it would be a pain in the ass and they're paying a price is the product I mean certain things obviously you want to have return but. Oh well like. Anything written by Jim never truly have. I mean, then you want to get those back? Yeah, well, I don't want to get them back, but somebody probably does. Yeah, it's it's an interesting issue. I mean, I love the fact that, like, this topic is so far away from any other topic we could possibly be discussing.

And we're spending most of the show on it. Which is why. So this is pretty funny to listen do unrelenting. You'd never know what you're I've said it before. I'll say it again. We are the Seinfeld of podcast. But less entertaining. Well, I don't know about that. I think we're friends painting. Could be more entertaining. I think now I dig. I guess the question is, which of the Seinfeld characters are we? Oh, which Seinfeld character? Well, I mean, obviously you're Kramer, right?

I mean, that's Kramer. I'm not Kramer. That's I mean, to be fair, you're more you're more like Newman. I think Newman via the mail twice. You're wrong now. Okay? Newman Yeah. You mean hardly the mailman. Newman was, you know, physically, you guys a little shorter. I mean, he didn't have the beard. For fuck's sake. I'm obviously George, for Christ's sake. I don't see George. I don't. Know. George was a scammer overall. I mean. I mean, maybe you are. I guess that's possible.

But, I mean, Newman just seemed like he was always trying to cause trouble and poke the bear. Mm hmm. And I kind of thought that would be more than. Than George, but maybe you're right. It could be. Yes, definitely. Kramer, you're one of those seven foot tall guys, right? Well, that's true. You know, you're more like George in the fact that you just kind of accidentally get jobs with really big corporations. They have no idea how you got there. Yeah, you just got to.

You just got to fake it till you make it, that's all. Him getting the job with the Yankees was great when he was just. I'm just being totally the anti George and winning that the the George Steinbrenner the first time and just yells at him and tells it why the team sucks you hire this guy like yeah that's okay I guess maybe I can see a little bit of that. I mean, that that's the that's a little bit of the GM gene in that I guess a little bit. But what else is going on, though?

I didn't know about this this latest thing. What else have I missed during this week? What other latest thing? The queen died. Joe Biden. Died. You? Yeah, the queen died. I don't believe it. There haven't. I think it's a tired. I think she's retired. Have you? Is it an open casket? I don't think it was. Huh? There you go. Some people thought you died like 20, 30 years ago. Yeah, well, that's wrong. We heard that with Gorbachev. I think she's just finally decided to retire, go off to Bermuda.

I thought she was going back to her home planet. Enjoy. That is Bermuda. That's good stuff. Is it code or is it this act? No. Why do you think that island is named for the planet? Wow, I didn't know that. Is there like a I mean. The magical. Intergalactic transport that happens from there? Just email and black it all. I think I saw the first one there. Okay. All right I'm not big into movies. I watch a lot now.

You know, I enjoy watching lights moving around that are very grainy and out of focus. Exactly. I did watching I said the the Tom Cruise, Top Gun maverick. I thought that was a fairly decent. Decent look. You people have told me that. And like six months later, it's still 20 bucks to watch it. That's it. I'm going to wait till it's free. Oh, I thought it was free. No, no, that's still charging money. It's still on Pay-Per-View. Really interesting. I thought it was free.

Yeah, it hasn't been picked up by HBO or somebody else. Ambiguous, does it? Is. I watched it. I must have seen it somewhere that was not legitimate. It is my guess. But yes. It's a minus. So I mean, it's still it's there. If you want to if you want to pay, I can hook you up. I can stream. It, right? Yeah. Uh huh. This is my exit strategy. I'm just going to start a new video in audio service. Just for you. Just for me. Streaming it while it.

So you're not going to make a whole lot of money. I'll tell you that. I was pissed because the other thing that happened Thursday when I went to the retinal doctor and then got that, I wanted to watch the the truck race that was on that night, the NASCAR Craftsman Truck. Yeah, yeah. And our freaking Comcast went down for like 5 hours. That's when you're like, oh, you want to do a show? You got like, you can't do it on tomorrow. It's like, fucking Internet's. Gone, man.

This is the first time in a long time. It was out 4 hours for no apparent reason. And the most annoying thing was it went out at like three or four, which is why you have to have your own NASCAR full of stuff to watch because otherwise you're like, well, you can't do streaming when you don't have an internet connection. But their whole thing was like, Oh yeah, this will be fixed in like 2 hours.

Then they're like, allow it came back at like in a war on the gigabit speeds and the speed test was getting like 20 megabits, you know, I mean, it was nothing oh. Yeah, that's, that's not good. And then it disappeared again and it was like, oh, everything is fine. And I'm like, Bullshit, everything is fine. And then it went back to, Oh There's an outage in your area, it could be 3 hours. And it's like, Oh, you know, it's just. So they fix it. Eventually everything is back to normal speeds.

Yes, it seems like everything's back and we haven't had any drops or anything, so. Hey, well, that's good. That's a. Plus. Overall, I can't complain too much because as I said, it's been a long time since we've had an extended outage. Mm hmm. But, you know, they sell you. They you're always going to just get your Comcast experience. But it was just Murphy's luck, because I normally never watch anything live. And there's normally not a race on a Thursday night.

It's usually Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So this was a rare oddity. And then of course, it was out, but it was okay because Fox Sports still let just I think the race started at eight. It was back on here at nine. She just downloaded off one of your little downloader websites. Yeah, that would be around afterwards but fox as long as it was still on the Fox Sports on the Roku let me start it an hour into it so they don't let you skip commercials, which is a pain in the ass and. On the Roku really?

You can't skip commercials. That's crazy. Depending on the app and work with the Fox Sports one. If you're watching, if you start it late, they'll show you the whole program. So if you start a live event a half hour in, you can still watch it. The whole thing from the beginning, but you can't like Skip commercials to catch up. Interesting. Yeah, I guess they're making money off those or something. Yeah, they are. Oh, thanks for the live boost. See Brooklyn. So you get the 66.

That's that is the only only money this show has brought in today from C, Brooklyn. He is the lone executive producer right now. So you if they send money via SATs, you make that for that show instead of the next Thursday. How you do it? Yeah. Yes. If it's during the show and we see it and recognize it during the show. I see.

I mean if we're if we're going to like, hey, we're done and then the SATs coming in and we don't talk about it, then I'll just probably forget about it, to be honest, because it all just rolls on by, you know, it all just scrolls on by. I mean, this is not this many SATs is Adam Curry's podcasting 2.0 or Curry and the keeper. When you listen to podcasting 2.0, it's always. Like pew, pew, pew, pew. Pew. And it's like SATs are coming in at all times.

They're. Oh, that's true. Well, that's called value per area. Yes. Which means you're getting a lot more value listening to Adam Curry than you are to us. And don't forget. He's definitely getting a lot more value doing the show that we are. Yeah. Yeah. His value his value level is a little bit higher.

And this is the constant and I know we've talked about it a lot here, but this is still the constant thing that gets argued with podcasters or anybody really that wants to monetize their content, which is Adam Curry. His statistics say when you do value for value, you will never get more than about 4% of the people to take part right. Which I think is pretty accurate. I think it's not just his number. I mean, even outside of value for value, I'm just saying.

Like studies this and he would know, you know, there's a conglomerate of, you know, people that look at this stuff. I don't know if I would say he studies this stuff, but. He's just guessing. He has an idea of it. Well, he bases. His little league. He's guessing but but he's well, yeah, he is living on it. But he's I mean, it's not like he's the one that's doing the accounting for that business. True. There are folks. There are people. But when you. People figure that stuff.

Out like 4%, that will take part. When you say, hey, what is this worth to you? Yeah, yeah. Which by the way, did I hear correctly maybe three episodes ago that he said that their show had about four and a half million listeners? I don't remember hearing that number. I thought it was always number. Did you say I didn't hear? The last one I remember hearing was a little low, I thought in the million range for downloads.

Listen, I know it's definitely more than that, but I think once say like four, maybe five episodes ago, I was kind surprised because usually doesn't like talking about numbers. But he says, Yeah. And I mean, he was not talking about the number of listeners. He was talking about something, but then he made a reference to the fact Yeah. And with this show at about four and a half million, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, Huh, that's weird.

He actually said how many listeners they have. He usually doesn't like to do that. You know? And that could be a weak download listeners. We know listeners are very hard to quantify because you don't know if the person that is download. I think that his listened. Yeah I think he's probably referring to the average number of downloads a month. But because of the fact that only 4% of the people when you're on value for value take part.

This is a reason why a lot of people put stuff behind paywalls. And. Have been fairly successful. I know. Oh totally. Yeah. That there's a lot of arguments about that. But I think when people know they're getting. More. When they're getting a product that they otherwise wouldn't. Yeah. Certainly they're willing to pay more. They're willing to put something in. I've probably paid now hundreds dollars. Tim Guess. Exactly. And I only watch maybe one episode a month.

And if he was value for value, would you have paid as much? Well, no, of course not. No, because I've done that too. I've done the booster. Graham's on YouTube. You know, the whatever their equivalent is, the stickers or messages or whatever. So I think the bottom line is both are very valid, but I believe the value for value to make a full time living a good living out of it, you have to be in the top 1%, probably of listened to shows as far as well.

Here's the real and here's the real question that will never get an answer to compare to how much money no agenda is making right now. Would they make more if they did a third episode that was behind a paywall right away? And we'll never find out because a, I don't think either one of them wants to do a third episode. It's a lot of. Work from a time commitment standpoint. Two Adam is just opposed to paywalls as a principle. And because he's adamant.

Jon would probably be more likely to do it because he likes getting paid. Yeah, we'll. Be like, there's more money coming in. You're incentivizing people to Yeah. But this is the same way that Ben and Tim do theirs. Is that they they do a show that's free for everybody and YouTube. And then immediately after they do another show behind, the paywall. And so for the people that join at I don't remember I think Tim's is ten bucks a month and I'm trying to remember how much Ben's is.

I think it's probably ten or 15 bucks a month as well. I don't pay for that one. It's just not as interesting content in my opinion. But but the idea is the same. It's like, like everybody gets my show for free. But if you really what I'm doing here and then you want to get more, it'll cost you ten or 15 bucks a month. And makes sense. Yeah. And the way I look at it is let's if it like at that ten hour price point, it's not going to break the bank. It's doable. It's not a major cost to me.

And even if I only once a month catch the second show, like I probably watch 80%, I contrary to some belief, I don't watch 100% of temple stuff, but I probably watch like 80% of his stuff. But of that 80%, occasionally they'll be a really interesting guest on or somebody that I just want to or maybe even slightly even above the guest, maybe just the topics in the conversation are getting very interesting.

And in those situations, I know I can go to the members website, log in and then be able to listen the the second half, the behind the paywall portion, which also then since it's not on YouTube, they didn't have a lot more conspiracy theory conversations they had to block before they can have swearing. They don't have to be kids friendly. So that's where you typically have the most heated yelling and, you know, kind of the best item for debates, the best content.

But you certainly don't have it on every episode, and I sure as hell don't have time to watch, you know, 80% of the behind a paywall stuff. I just I mostly do it because that that's the thing that allows Tim to keep growing the business and it's been super successful. So right now, or I say probably as of a month ago, it mentioned that they're generating more revenue off of the membership site than they are off YouTube. And he is. Interesting.

And he does a daily show on YouTube that generates, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars per episode. We have gives you the ad money is good. Yeah the money is good. But the direct ten bucks a month donations are even better now. So that makes sense because he sure as hell isn't getting ten bucks per YouTube viewer from YouTube. No, there's absolutely no way. That's no way. Yeah. Skimming pennies. They both fit.

They both fit a model if you have a large enough audience and if you have a generous enough audience where no agenda does the amount of times we've heard somebody coming in with $1,000 or more for one show at one time that I understand blows away. Oh, just give me ten bucks a month. But the average person does not have I mean, I've yet to, but I've done a lot of podcasts. I've done hundreds, hundreds of podcast episodes.

Never once did somebody come in with a donation of over $1,000 for one episode. Mm. I'm waiting. If somebody wants to prove me wrong, I'd love to be proven wrong. Yeah, but when that's not happening, then we're. We're just doing the wrong content. There's a YouTuber that I watched that is I would I guess I would describe him as a transvestite for money. Well, everybody. Does something for money. So he's not. He's not. He looks like doesn't.

He doesn't want to be he doesn't want to be a no. He looks totally like a chick. That's the way that's what makes it successful is he's not gay, he's not transsexual, but he does dress in women's clothing. And this one, he has a very feminine look to him, but he has a very masculine voice and he's into masculine stuff like guns and knives and things like that. That's what this looks like. A chick dresses like a chick acts like a guy talks about like the guy. It's the hawks, like, sort of.

So it's just that. So that's why I was careful to find the correct word, which is transvestite. And he recently had somebody offer him a $300,000. Whoa to do to do a boob implant. And he was very tempted. He's like, you know, the operation would cost significantly less than that. So it's probably about 60 grand. Wow. And that's a lot of money for him as incentive to do it. But he kind of chicken out. The the transgender teacher in the Candida with the big boobs.

Oh, no, no, no, no. This, this, this. Unlike the comedian big boob, I still can't believe that's real. That's got to be somebody that just wants to fuck the system. Yeah, that's what says no agenda said yesterday. I'm not. Yeah, I just. I cannot imagine somebody that genuinely wants to be a woman wanting to walk around with, you know, like, literally these are bigger than watermelon sized steak. That's. Yeah, well, this is the society we live in that where mental. No because it is applauded.

But I just I'm not buying it. It's an inconvenience. It's an inconvenience. It's one thing to wear women's clothing and then, you know, pad those clothing. So the boobs look like boobs. It's another thing to become a cartoon character. Yeah, I agree. And he was not at all looking like you have the proper what's the word the like. He wasn't it's like if those natural.

No it looked like they were literally balloons like regular balloons blown up and put into a a clown outfit because they were not impacting his stance at all. Like if you have two watermelons that are strapped to you, you fry like the weight of actual tits or fake tits. Then he should be leaning back a lot more to counterbalance their weight. And he wasn't. He was just standing around like a normal dude. Looking around with really big boobs.

A dude with blow up hot air balloons stuffed into a clown sized bra. You can't question what people are doing, though. I can and I do. It's hateful. Why are you so? I mean, not that there's anything wrong with that, but it just seems silly. But is a lot of this stuff is silly though. A lot of this stuff is silly. But one of the. That's right. One of the other things Biden said yesterday was that the pandemic is over. But yeah, Joe Biden said the pandemic was.

Dare he say that there's still people in California that are waiting for their next shot? Well, there there are plenty. And it's it's kind of another interesting thing, because as somebody that has believed the pandemic was over for a while and I wonder how many people the radical right because there are those the same as there are the radical left. When Joe Biden says the pandemic is over, can they agree with that? Go well, finally, Joe, thanks. Or are they like.

No, they're going to hold it against them? They'll be like, what do you mean the pandemic is over? Wait, no, it can't be. No. Well, let's see what Fauci has to say, because I don't trust this Biden character. Yeah. We got to be. Yeah, we have to get a second opinion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. There's only one man that is science and it's not Joe Biden. Joe Biden defers to Anthony Fauci. Yeah, I say the ad that. Yeah, let me say brow to the pandemic.

Once the pandemic is over in Mexico, I'm hoping it is. So you can get back in or they won't let you in or they won't let you out. When's the new book coming out? What's it about? See, this is we were talking about how podcasters make money and there are some podcasters. Yeah, you'll find out when. When I'm ready to say. Oh, it's just this is hush hush. We don't even get a little bit of we get a little taste here. You get no taste. No.

No taste. It. I'm still working on the I'm still working on two things that people do know about, which is the name the rebranding. But it's the new show with the old guests with Ben. Searching for more. Dot com. Yeah. So Gene talks more. Exactly. It's it's just the good old boys dot com. Good old. Boys and they're never. Meeting no harm. Yeah. Beats all you've ever saw.

And the trouble with the tag line it's how did you know the what our tagline is you must have had access to some preview material. Yeah, I hacked your server. I mean, you must have hacked my server using Russians or something was. Well, the Russians are the best at that. They have hacking servers. Yes. Yeah, they are. Exactly. They know where Hillary is at all time. That's all they got. Very close track. Below what was well didn't go well.

It's because Putin, you know, he listens to what Trump asks for. And I Trump said, hey, did you send us a copy of what was on Hillary's server, please. Yeah, that would be nice. Mm hmm. Now, have you ever actually made money selling books on Amazon, or is this just a. I mean, theoretically. This is theoretically you didn't lose money. I, I would make money. I mean, people do buy the books but I have bought way more books than the amount of money they made off of book sales to give away.

That makes sense. What is the system like when you want to self-publish? So, I mean, granted, I know there's a lot that goes crazy. So I mean, once you have the whole manuscript done and it's in whatever format they need, is it just basically upload and. Yeah. And they do the rest pretty much. So you can either use a PDF and upload that if it's already all exactly to spec for Brant or you can upload it in like e-book format and they will then reflow that into the the actual publishable version.

And I've got software that I bought years ago that helps to automate the process. So it's, it's basically like layout software for book nice and it also does the the e-book so you can preview what the print book looks like. You can preview the e-book looks like depending on the sized devices they're using and think most people these days they're again the Amazon pretty much one. Then the Kindle is the main one people use.

They used to be there were multiple readers, but there's such a small sliver percentage of the population these days really does matter. Well in their relatively similar formats anyway. Yeah, there used to be multiple ones. It's all I think the epub at this point. But on just the rows there's a web to mobi which is just kind of epub with it with extra crap added in for to keep you from copying it. I think. Probably.

Yeah, but either way, so you, you do all that gives that up, spit it out to Amazon and then Amazon takes maybe two or three days and then it's up on their website and available and it's easier for each subsequent book simply because you did the stuff that you only do once. Oh, right. From being an. Author, you. Know about the author page and all that crap. So yeah, it's pretty straightforward.

I mean, the hard part is writing the damn thing. And I, I'm, I know a lot of people in that kind of self-publishing industry. In fact, Tucker Max is a guy that was one of the pioneers of self-publishing. He a company to help people self-publish after he was a multi-time New York Times best selling author. He really kind, ragged on the whole industry of publishing the way it's set up and and where basically the author gets the least money out of everybody.

Right. It's kind of like the music industry. Well, you can find a way to have gatekeepers in the area that has collapsed. Exactly. And so bad. And this is back maybe 12, 14 years ago. It's he's he was talking about how crappy it is? Well, it's not just because of the fact that you have the Kindles and the other reading devices, the fact that Amazon now has the ability to print paper books on demand. On demand. Yeah, exactly. And they do a. Really good job. Yeah, they're pretty good.

They're not like can't do on demand, full color, full bleed. Right. But they can do the normal they can, though. They've been doing soft covers on the band forever and they can even do hard covers now on demand. Which makes a lot of sense. Whereas we just talked about we just take a thousand books and rip the covers off because they didn't sell them. Never happened. The price of paper. Price of paper.

Now, I don't know if they still would do that at the bookstore because the price of paper now has gone probably ten. That store it used to be. So you want them back to resell. So it may be yeah, it may be better to recycle versus paying the shipping fees in the past like the recycling netted you almost nothing, but the shipping fees were higher, so it didn't make any sense to actually get the books back. You just want to make sure that they don't get resold.

But now I don't know if that's still the case. There was a a new Paul McCartney release. I thought this was interesting from a just a different take on how they were doing this, because McCartney's had three solo albums that he's released in his career. One, two and three. Three is the one that was just released like after the pandemic started.

And they produce, if I'm remembering this correctly, they produce some copies of that by taking like a bunch old, worn out, crappy copies of McCartney wanting to melt down the vinyl and. Remakes of that. So which it was kind of cool. Yeah, I guess vinyl is recyclable, right? Yeah. Just melt their stuff down and then stamp it. Yeah. There was. I thought this was interesting too. There was an article on some bio material that they're testing, making records out of it.

It's like, this is never going to fucking work. Oh, it'll work great because it'll put a time end of date on all records. So you have to rebuy your music. It's perfect. That's a great idea. Yeah. And they're like, Oh, well, something like the sound quality is like 90% of what vinyl is. It's like, do you not understand the people that buy vinyl? The sole reason most people buy vinyl is to. Be like, Yeah, cause they're hipsters, huh? And they're like, The sound is so much better.

The minute you degrade the sound, you kill the format. Well, if you wanted good sound, you'd buy the. That's debatable. Depending on your equipment, digital can sound very good. Yes, no question about it. It has a different sound. The vital when done right. A lot of people don't realize that when you play a vinyl record, you're not supposed to have clicks and pops in the history of the whole thing, aren't you. Oh, I thought that was the whole benefit of vinyl that you all like, right.

No it's not. I mean they it to me it's like there's there are new which is also want to talk about digital. I thought this was hilarious one of the higher end turntable makers. I forget which one, but they just came out. This company did a box that goes in line. And basically what the box is, is digital processing to remove the pops and clicks and like do not realize the irony of using a digital device to remove a sound you don't want from the vinyl.

See now, somebody could come up with a a physical processor box that goes in line and takes an audio signal and then writes it on a vinyl album in Graves. And if they. Will, yeah, they have. This. And then literally three inches later, there's a needle picking that sound up and then translating it to digital sound on the way out. So it's basically an analog filter. Right? And it's constantly just writing a couple of inches away from the reader. Rewriting and erase and rewrite. Huh, uh huh.

Uh huh, yeah. It's A very interesting concept. But there's just a crazy ass device somebody would pay a lot of money for. Maybe we can make that happen. There was just a big thing.

The Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs who is a vinyl we they make see these too but their bread and butter is they've been known for repressing some classic titles and having the best sounding vinyl of that and it came out there was they were just having like a random conversation with a video blogger, vlogger, I'm guessing, because it was so vlogger and he unveiled the fact that they were, you know, he's like, well, they're using digital processing. To. To give you this final product.

And they're like, no, we're not. Come down to the factory, we'll show you. And when he went down to the factory, they were doing digital processing and. Oh, really? Yes. And it's like, well, that there was a portion, so they would be taking the original tape.

So yeah, maybe they took the original analog master tapes, but there was a phase where they digitized them to be able to work with them and it was like super high res that wasn't just, you know, run of the mill, but still there was a digital part of that process. And for people that are really into the analog stuff, they don't want digital to be a part of it at all, which I think is kind of stupid. Just do whatever is going to get the best quality sound. That's all I want.

Yeah, I don't care what you do. But the purist would be like, I would never buy an album if I knew it was digital at any point. Yeah. And I remember back in the day, meaning the eighties, I'm sure that when I bought CDs it had a dee dee dee dee dee on the back because otherwise it would sound like shit. Oh, it had the DVD. No, all of mine had triple Dee. Right. You like them triple D? I like them triple D.

I don't the A's in there. No. Because you want digital recording, digital pressing and digital mastering. And that they don't even show anymore. I yeah I get, I don't think there's any A's in anything anymore for a long time. Well there were a lot. Well when you're dealing with anything that was recorded in the anything to 1980 or so. Yeah. Everything's analog recording so you have to start with the.

Yeah, but that's why some of these things like with the Beatles stuff, they've been rereleased and rereleased because it's like, well, the first time we made the CD, we kind of sucked. Well, they could, yeah. And I, but I think they can also just sample a lot of that stuff and just redo it from scratch digitally. Oh, you can do some amazing stuff.

But a lot of these new releases, I think we've talked about after the Beatles documentary came out, that the technology is finally there where they can go to original mono tapes and separate the instrumentation from the vocal, vocal vocals. I can just hardware. Vocals, the. Vocals, they can separate everything into their own tracks. So you can now massage that bass. You could bring the bass up or the drums down, which is amazing to me.

The technology, the idea that to be able to take a mono recording and separate that back into individual tracks, because if you go in with any newer recordings so if you go and listen to the latest Taylor Swift recording, that was as long as it was recorded in a studio or not at home or something, you probably got like 100 tracks that everything is individual and the final result is the mix of all that. Exactly. The mix becomes a much bigger thing.

Yes, no. But you can go back to any of those individual tracks and remove them, bring them, make them louder and put a different process, put a little more reverb on it. Now, when did they start recording multi-track rather than just mixing multi-track? That was Bill the Beatles had for most of their career. We're at a four track machine that when they got to the White Album days, which was like getting to about about 1970, that's when it was like an eight or 16 track.

They went to, which was still very limited compared to now computerized recording today. You pretty much have unlimited tracks. Mm hmm. Yeah. You. Which is why you can. You have so many musicians that aren't really musicians anymore. And that was the way it was even going back. I remember Guy that produced Aerosmith was like, Yeah, Steven Tyler Song. If there's 100 words in the song, it was probably 100 takes. They took one word from each take, you know, it was that pieced together.

But the final result, you just hear, it's like, Oh, well, that sounds fine. Yeah. You don't know. So you really don't. But I think that so like in the 1940s, big bands and stuff that was just multi mixed but two track recorded. Yeah my imagine like how much better were those people at mixing it? They were damn. Good because you had to do live mix. Yeah, like mix. And then you end up with the track. You had to set this and if the, you know, if the drummer came in too loud or, you know, whatever.

Yeah, the tape was no good. Yeah. Which is why when you go back into the vaults of like records and that Elvis and Johnny Cash, that the final song is often like take 14 teens, you know, there were 13 either full or aborted takes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they had to get the whole thing right. It wasn't like now it's like, okay, we'll just go back and we'll fix that one note we messed in the solo. Oh yeah.

They literally don't even need to do more than one thing because everything is recorded on a separate track digitally so they can arrange the tracks later, but also like, you're absolutely right, they can change the notes, they can stretch things out, change direction without affecting pitch. Yes, they can change the pitch without affecting duration. All these things are totally doable without even losing the character.

So it's it I think music in a lot of ways shifted more from the performer to the producer. Oh, definitely. When my buddy Tom took his, the stuff that we recorded in the basement here and his buddy then added drums at their their local church, I think church basement. He added the drums and they took him to a guy that would produce some stuff from like Brian Wilson and Mellencamp.

And so you have you heard of a guy named Sean Mayer? Now he's a producer that worked on a bunch of stuff that you never heard of. Okay. Well, this was where I was. I can't remember the guy's name off the top of my now either, which I'm kind of kicking myself. But, you know, when he threw this stuff, they converted it from logic, which is the apple into Pro Tools for Windows. And exactly what you're saying, it's like, oh, well, here the drum came in 1/100 of a second too late.

So we just move that. And you know. It's like, holy crap, this is this is crazy what they can do and just massage this stuff around. Oh, you want that you want that sustain you sustained it for 3 seconds. You want it to sound like you sustained it for six. Oh no problem. Mm. Just, just stretch that out doesn't change the character. It's like it's crazy what they can do with the audio recording. That's interesting. So I just looked up his production lists of stuff.

I've never heard of any of it, but I don't listen to modern music, so not really. Yeah, but g-eazy, Demi Lovato, even Mac. The other big hitters. Uh, just the old pentatonic. Uh, totally, yeah. And there's nothing like a. A cappella note here. Cameron Forbes, Perry Lenz. The but but. But if I'm to skim, for the record, I mean. The real question is, who is doing the audiobooks for your books? I know, right. I need to do that.

Anyway, the I brought them up is because he was this thing that I was at. So I hung out with them. But I like I it's funny because I hung out with them. I never heard of any of that shit that he's done. Like I've really. Never heard of anything I've produced either. That's true. Like, have you heard unrelenting? Yeah, I heard something, but he seemed like a good kid. I mean, they all looked like kids these days. Well, you're 116, so everybody buy relative.

As a kid. Yeah, that's totally the case. That's very true. Yeah, but yeah, I hope I'll probably reach out to them, you know, chat with them and find a little more. It's the thing is, when you go to these events and you're you're like having seventh grade lunches and things, you just don't get a chance to really do a deep dove into what somebody does. And you know what? You just kind of get the short version of everything. You're just there to enjoy the food. Yeah, mostly.

I mean, a lot of people were talking about how you really have to move your money into land right now because the stock markets completely go into top. Wait, wait, just ask, do they mean you should buy property or do you just take your cash and actually bury it somewhere? Yeah, the land, right? No, no, no. They say the best thing to do is to buy trailer parks because that's where most people end up living. Oh, that's very true. Yeah. This is going to be the new.

They also there is a number of people I mean, a lot of the I'd say over half the people at this event were eight figure folks. And then you. And me. But I'm just a legitimate business man. I'm not actually rich. So you try. I work for a living sometimes, I guess. Then one book. At a time. Yeah, I hear that. Yeah. Yes, I'm counting on the podcast but I've got the the, uh, you know, the prepping company thing going. The product should be shipping out to China next week. The supposedly.

Evil Russian prepper dot com or. Something like that. I'll announce that when it's ready now, before and then. Oh well the other podcast with the that I mentioned already. The good old days. The Gin Brothers boys that'll start probably in the next couple weeks. I got, I got a lot of shit I'm working on. Do you go to Mexico? Yeah. I need irrigation. You just got home. Get it? Yeah. No, I refuse to do that. Everybody, I'm.

I'm not getting every single person I know who has books out there used to go straight. You're like, can you explain? You literally ain't including jQuery. Literally Everybody wait. There's other people running. You see the the Medicare book is well ghostwritten. Exactly. It was awesome. Ghost produced in Gulf Coast. Ghost published mostly. Yeah. So it's definitely goes public, but I refuse to do that.

If I'm going to have my name on a book, I will be the one that wrote that book that is my blood, sweat and tears that went into it and that in somebody else's. I just want to see the bio on the book. I want to see your picture. And as a segue I never truly have. And underneath it will just say totally legitimate author. Well, I am a published author. Right. That would be what you want though on the. Yeah. The page there. Just enough to be a published author. Yes.

Totally legitimate published author. Yes, that's totally legitimate. Totally. That's a. Published author. Yeah. I mean, anybody can put their book on Amazon and be a published author now, though. Mm hmm. Everybody should, because then you could add that to your LinkedIn. Well, and then technically, I never got to top. And then we got a first place on Amazon. So I. Did. In your category. I was second in my for a little while. It's not bad. In I think it was business management

like I'm. Overall was that the week you bought 8000 books. That was exactly right. That was the week I bought 8000 books myself. You're absolutely right on that. Let me ask you this for that week, did you actually get a bump from people that bought the book? Does that help by being on the list? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, realistically, it doesn't take 8000.

I think that to, a, I had the misfortune of doing my book the same day that Penguin published a book in the same category. It doesn't even matter who the author was because it's a fucking penguin book. So obviously it's going to be number one, obviously. Yeah. So that was unfortunate had it not been for that penguin, but I'm sure I would have gotten into the top spot. But all it really typically takes is about between 500 and a thousand copies sold in one day. Well, let's hope your timing.

Not a big number. The next one let's up. The timing's better that you don't have any tips. That mean it'd be nice to have better timing. What I'll probably do is is promote the book and all of my podcasts, including this one, and tell people don't buy it until this date so that everybody buys at the same time. If you want to help. And what I do too is to encourage people to buy. It's just regardless of whether they want to or not, there's I'll usually in that first week have it be $0.99.

And then he'll buy it back review at the full price later. I will totally not do that, but but after a week that'll go up to the normal price. 20 bucks. It's a bargain. A bargain at any price. Is is this weeks of bargains because there's actually two versions. You can actually use my book to help you start a fire in case you're prepping. That's very important. You're kind of crossing the streams now. And what you got going on here? Mm, yeah, but this is great.

A rare week, but this week nothing's going on. Well, we'll be back Friday so there will be two unrelenting is this week. That's a row in that sense. Yeah. So we should talk about that and I don't know if we want to do it publicly or privately is like do we want to stay on Fridays. Because Friday for me was really mostly driven by the fact that I was working, which I'm right now. But, you know, again. I'm working. I'm just not getting paid. That's well, that's not a good job.

I have plenty of work that I'm doing. It's just none of it's actually paying me right now. I wouldn't say anything. A lot of it is costing me money right now. We may be moving around. We'll be a good schedule. Yeah, I think we. We could move around. Why somebody was surprised that are online right now. Well yeah we are right now. That means we will be next Monday. Or the next or the one previous. Or even the previous Friday or Monday. You never. Know. Yeah, it's the things we move around.

It's the beauty of podcasting with that. That's that will be back at some point. Do we know who's on after us today? On Tuesday? Hmm. Yeah. Planet Rage is coming up in an hour with Larry Blender and Darren O'Neil. And anybody between that and this. No, it's just one hour of whatever is on. Of just white noise or whatever. Ben has programed. Exactly. The no agenda stream. No agenda stream dot com. Yeah. Today's a rarity. You get to hear me two different shows.

Bonus. Yeah. If you've never checked out Planet Rage. Planet Rage that show. And then tune back in to find out about Jean's new business. Totally legitimate business ventures. We always. We hope you can invest. Yeah, yeah. See, I was going to say something about needing infrasonic cheering for planet res, but you cut me off, goddammit That'll happen.