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033: Raw Doggin’ The ‘Net

Jul 01, 20222 hr 30 minEp. 33
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On this episode of Unrelenting we have an open and honest discussion about everything under the sun from Covid-19, Howard Stern running for President, Supreme Court insurrections, TikTok, Adobe and scamware, a new vinyl LP scam, Bitcoin, chapters, and more! Thank you for checking it out. Please, review the show and tell a friend! EXECUTIVE …

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Sir Gene never runs. What we don't have is talent. Here. Hello and welcome to episode. Number 33 of unrelenting for July 1st, 2022. I am Darren O'Neill. He is urging them to leave the Moscow and have to leave. And you say you have a topic for today? Yeah. You see, Howard Stern is pretending to run for president because. He wants to be Donald Trump. As much as he pretends to hate Donald Trump. He wants to be Donald Trump. Oh, yeah. What do you think about that?

I don't think he's serious, although a lot of people didn't think Trump was serious at first. They thought it was a just a PR stunt because of the TV show he was doing at the time. The Apprentice was still going on, I believe. And nobody's going to vote for Stern. Well, some people would vote for Stern, but not enough to have a viable candidate. No, I'm not liberal enough for liberals. No, not at all. Be the bubble boy. People would be like, oh, yeah, yeah.

And that demographic is vastly shrinking. The probably people are in their mid-sixties right now. That's sad. They're dying off. That is sad. They did a lot of drugs in their younger days. Yeah. Yeah. And they've been listening to Howard for way too long. I remember listening to Howard in high school. Right? That was when he was good and he was the least different at the time. I mean, I'll give him the fact that. He don't mind if I eat some breakfast right. Now. Oh, sure.

That, you know, am I somehow a whatever it is for all the folks out there? But yeah, he was edgy then, but he did usher in a whole new genre of talk, which is a lot of podcasters. Way more podcasters want to be Howard Stern than want to be Rush Limbaugh. I'll tell you that, because everybody thinks they're funny. It's just part of the podcast. He wasn't so much funny as he was wacky, right? Well, he was getting away with stuff. Nobody else was.

And he thought it was edgy, you know, for things to like, hey, we're bringing in strippers and porn stars. You can listen to them on the radio and you're like, Yeah, but you're kind of missing out what people want to experience. He's not. Right. No, I know. Why don't we have this kind of stuff going on here? Well, I do. I don't know about you. That's why I seem distracted during the shows. I tell you, I don't know. It's. I don't think that it's going to publicity.

I think he's just trying to try to raise his numbers on them, which nobody listens to like them anywhere because they're all listening to podcasts. Why would anybody pay for radio? You know, at least not for that now, I believe. Stern Just like I believe my buddy Jonathan Brand Buyer, who came back for a while during COVID and did a show once a week, you know, basically turned into a podcaster. I believe he could if he wanted to monetize it. He went the wrong route and started doing ads,

which really and podcasting kind of sucks, but he. Has. Enough of a base where I think he could go the value for value model, which is just have a, you know, subscription if you want to go the if you want to kind of meld the value for value with the old fashion model, that's what you do. You go, okay, it's a subscription, five bucks a month, whatever it is, but. Stern Yeah, I think that this isn't going to cheapen the presidential race in any way more than having Donald Trump in it would.

I don't know if Stern I can see Stern being enough of an egomaniac where this is the perfect situation for him because he can pretend then if he gets blown out of the water that he was just doing it for fun and that it was just a PR stunt. But I think there's part of him that's thinking if that asshole Trump could win, maybe I could do well. There's a problem. He'd have to quit his Radio Day job to actually run because of the equal access laws.

You don't think he could then just change the law once he becomes with presidential decree that he could just. He would have to win first, right? That to do that, he'd have to run, which means he couldn't do his radio show for next year. That's true. Two years. And was that. No, he wouldn't have to do it depending how you have to have no other. Just not true because people are still like governors and stuff when they're running for president. No, no, no. It's not about your current job.

It's about because. Radio. Because it's that thing. Yeah. The equal time. It would be the ultimate. In law to prevent people that are TV or radio personalities from running. It is the ultimate campaign ability just to talk to the people. Don't, although you could do that on social media now. So I don't know you. Could, but then you get kicked off. But you could do it as a podcaster.

I mean, that's that's an interesting thing because if he wasn't on the radio and his really XM, the radio because there's a look, if you're a candidate, you could put out a three hour podcast every day. Nobody's going to stop you from doing that. I would love to see XM argue that they're not radio and have their advertising just completely disappear. But we're not radio. But your name is XM Radio. But we're not radio. We're something totally different.

But it's a delivery method, which is the intriguing part, because you don't need a radio to get the Howard Stern program. Yeah, you could certainly just stream it live for sure. Yeah, you. Can get it on your phone. You can get it on your tablet, you can get it on your desktop. Although I think you need the Excel tape. But man, I'm I still use a desktop. It doesn't everybody doesn't everybody have a desktop. You're talking about radio and desktop in the same breath.

Okay Boomer is that everybody listens to radio is you get your you get your big P.C. You tune that into whatever you tune it into. You know, you get a big antenna out of the house and then you pull in the signals from Yeah. And you lay back on your chaise lounge and it's right. You listen to your P.C. radio. Now, you finally figured it out. I think it works. Well, clearly, that's Stern's demographic, though.

Yeah, I would say that it's an interesting diversion, and I think it is nothing more than a publicity stunt. But in Howard's heart, in his mind, he may think he's got a chance. He may think he's got a shot, because, you know, the. Amount of dwarf passing and blackface that he's done. Yeah, but that was at a different time. Are you kidding me? Donald Trump throws ketchup allegedly at a wall and people go apeshit or two thirds throws dwarves.

No, no, that's fine, because he's he's liberal, so it's fine now. You can do anything you want if your policy is. You get me dude canceled so quickly. Yeah, but, you know, he thinks he's smarter than Donald Trump, so that's probably making him see that that guy one and he's I've never. Met a liberal who doesn't think he's smarter than Donald Trump. Yeah, that's true. But you ask them for answers to the questions and they're like, I don't know. Well, you look at their tax statements

and then the era and you can tell who's the smart one. The the guy in charge of all this, the Fed chair. What's his name? I forget his. Name. Powell Weird. Al Yeah, he should be. It should be weird. Al That would be better. When he was just on some kind of panel here, there was clips that are going around the usual places. When asked about why inflation is running rampant, he blamed people not getting vaccinated. That was his reason. Oh, first. Because, you know, supply. Chains.

And we really thought that everybody was going to run right out and get the vaccine and then get back to work and everything would be fine. But those bad people didn't do that. So that was the reason for inflation. But I mean, of course, nobody asked him like, yeah, but that that COVID stuff was going on under Trump and inflation didn't start going up until, you know, Joe Biden started a war with the fossil fuel industry. Mm hmm. Nobody asked that. But, see, it's.

It's you bad people who did not get vaccinated. You're the problem. You're why gas is going up. Your wife, food is going up. I just started thinking last night, that said, looking at the latest stats from the CDC, 40% of the people that were recorded to have been infected with the last variant of COVID three had what was what a macron. Yeah that is the latest. Allegedly 40% had more than one vaccine shot. I can see that.

And they knew once the variant started coming out that what they were calling breakthrough cases. I don't think that was really a good word for it, but it's the same thing we've all understood, I think. Well, maybe not all, but anybody that has looked at how the flu vaccines have worked for the last 20 years. Yeah, they don't.

They have much better seasons than others because you get a vaccine for any kind of bug like that, you have to guess which variants and whatever that you're getting in the United States, you're looking like six. It takes months for these things to be produced. Yeah. And sometimes they get they get it fairly right and the flu cases go down. But a lot of times they're wrong, they're off. And if you're not exactly right, they don't work.

So the minute these things go and have any kind of variance and they mutate at all, then the amount of protection you have from getting sick way down with the original COVID, the one that was getting into people's lungs and basically drowning them and killing them, you know, that seems to be long gone. The variants that are out there now are sticking more in the throat and not causing severe illness, which, again, you're back to kind of you should be dealing with it.

Like all that evolution, actually. Right. Because if a virus kills, it has the high mortality rate, then that virus doesn't get a chance to reproduce. Right? You're like, oh, wait, wait, are too severe. So the best viruses are like your common cold. It's always going to be around. It's never going to disappear because it hardly affects the the people that it utilizes to or reproduce itself. Which would make sense to them. Sneezing a little bit of a sore throat, you're done.

So when you were looking at something, I mean, this is not polio. You know, this is not that's a fairly stable disease. It's like the virus that's mutating so fast, it's impossible to stay ahead of it. And everybody that seems to be getting it now, except for Dr. Fauci, like I kind of feel bad because as much as I think the guy's a. Little bit dead. I worry. I don't wish anybody dead. I do. But the interesting thing was, is he took the magical Pfizer drug.

So not only now do we have issues with the RNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna causing issues with massive side effects. But now we have the drug that Pfizer came out with that was supposed to be the game changer for the people who aren't vaccinated.

Well, if you get sick, boom, you take this, what's it, plaques of it or some kind of name or that may be something completely different, but you take the Pfizer COVID drug and you're going to knock it right out and it's going to keep you out of the hospital and everything's going to be fine. Well, it seems that a lot of people taking this Pfizer drug, the symptoms disappear, according to Fauci, after like three or four days, he was testing negative again.

But then, bam, it came back and it came back stronger, which is also a very concerning problem where. Okay, so the drug not only didn't make you better, it actually increased the symptoms of the boomerang effect. And I mean, I get it for people in their eighties, but I'm happy now. When the doctor thought my mom had it, where did it go for the magic Pfizer drug? Yeah, that's what they told me when I got it. I got the positive test. Anyway.

And they're like, Well, if it gets any worse, we'll give you a Z pack. And the steroid, nobody was like, We're going to give you this Pfizer drug, which I'm really happy now. Well, at this point, I think the doctor has realized that while we can't sue Pfizer, we can sure as fuck do the people that prescribe this stuff. This is true. So we want to make sure we're well, some doctors actually want to do what's right for their patients. You know, there are

some good doctors out there. Okay. You can go against every doctor in the world, every single last one. There's not one good doctor. Well, there are some doctors that don't have any borders. Say here they're pretty good. Well, if you don't want borders, you want to be able to travel around freely. But that's all a mess. And most people, though, now getting the COVID. I know my niece finally got it and she was a little concerned.

But I mean, like you when you got it, she she went to New Orleans with my sister for a few days. It's like, well, there you go. New Orleans. That'll that'll do it. Florida got you. New Orleans got them. I mean, I didn't even get to go anywhere. Fun except the breakfast place here to get it. I think it was just the travel bit. I mean, I really I don't think I got over in Florida. I think I got COVID on the flight in Florida. It's very possible. Anyways, I have nothing like no indicators at all.

I flew back on Friday. I had a perfectly normal weekend. It wasn't until Monday afternoon that I started feeling something. Which makes. Sense because that doesn't sound like if I would have had to go in Florida, I would have gotten hit over the weekend. I think. You are certainly in close quarters on an airplane, although from day one there has been people arguing just what kind. Of down. Air flow and what kind of.

I mean, trying to petition them to like block off the airflow in their planes between the surf class and the first class, because I just don't trust the air back there. You don't trust the air from those who you can't afford to pay first class rates? Is that same? Wow. Who knows what kind of air they've been breathing? Well, the same. Almost any infection. Breathing. The kind of infections they might have gotten. You, you never know what kind of infections they have gotten, though. Yes, they do.

And for new products coming out of the 13 product line, including and air. This is absolutely true. This is true product as we I am all kidding aside, I am I am very actively right now working on a whole set of products for the coming future. And we will stay tuned to find out what those are. And won't be advertising on this podcast. But they sure as hell will be plugs for product. That sounds like advertising. Where's my cut with this all. Discount. That I want my cut man, I'll promote it.

And while. We can talk about you for money, I'm the shows that actually get an audience right those things. And so that's where you want the plug. And. I will say. Right before it starts. Yes, the rock and roll pre-show, that's when you brought to. You by Sir Jean's products for the future. Yeah. Go to third dot com slide it. Don't forget to use promo code dairy no to get it right correctly 15% off. Exactly right. Yeah that's the way it works.

And I mean, we'll be doing our donation segment a little bit later. But I just want to say, thanks to whoever Rose Frog is who has been streaming and boosting Satoshis since right before the show started and we're up to about looks like 315,000 satoshis and they just keep going. I should probably fix my you might some. Point you might want to turn that on. Otherwise you're going to be I mean just get a albi address or something that's constant that you could use as a fallback.

Wouldn't be a. Bad I need a fallback if I can pay 20 bucks a month for the thing. Well, then you should be getting it fixed. You should be getting it fixed up. Yeah, they had some issues that they needed to sort out. This is an interesting time for all of this stuff because there is some real money starting to go through this system and it's still being treated as right. It's a bailout and you could lose your money at any time. I mean, any time.

I think we talked about on the last show where the podcasting 2.0 show with Adam Curry and Dave Jones, somebody Peter sent in 5 million satoshis, which was great. Yeah, a little over a thousand bucks. Now, if that gets lost, you know, people it's understandable if a buck or two gets lost here and there. Yeah, but if a thousand is lost, that's a little more annoying. It's. Yeah, that's when you start thinking maybe people that's the bad thing after all. Yeah. Maybe the fees are the worst.

The money is just there. Mm hmm. It's an interesting system to watch, no doubt about it. All right, let me see what I got here. Oh, no, it is working, Felicia. People are selling real sets. Yes, we enjoy real sets. Yeah, no, I'm looking at when you says 21/3 points, you said 23rd, 25th, 27th. It is the unrelenting podcast and answer, Jean.

And it's a it's a beautiful way to get people. On. Just going in these small amounts because this is something that we've talked about since day one, which is you don't need people to spend a ton of money to make this a worthwhile enterprise.

But if everybody in the world ship in I know Adam hates, but if everybody would get on one of these apps and even just give a few pennies every minute, it's like when the audience gets big enough, then it all sustains itself and nobody's really paying a whole lot. I mean, most of these donations equals $0.00 because that number of $0.20 is less than a penny. Less than a half a penny. Yeah. What is one $0.01 today is 47.2 cents. Yeah. $0.01. Yeah. The $0.01 from what year.

Right now this is a direct the conversion. $0.01 right now is 47.1 $0.08. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Let me but I do see a couple of donations for $4.54. So that's probably a $10 donation. Yeah. They get split between your. Network and you and me. And that's also a beautiful thing about this whole system, is that you don't have to do the accounting and separate it out and then I have to take the money and then pay you. And then there's taxes involved again then.

Yeah. Am I supposed to pay you? I'm not really sure. I'm. People keep saying that they want less, Jean, more anybody. But uh huh. But to be fair to looking at just the past week or two, this. Is your best running show that doesn't have music. They are all equalizing except for random thoughts. People hate me when I'm by myself. Oh, really? Yeah. That was my favorite show, man. You know, it gets to the point better. There's less when I'm involved in it.

I don't even have to accelerate the speech that much on that one. I just have to boost the timber. Because yeah, I do get to the point. I talk fairly quickly. I do not ramble around with a lot of pauses in there and I don't even believe it or not. I don't run a silence filter on random thoughts. So that's just me. And most of the time I might pause once or twice during a show if I really flub like a name or something, or if I'm like, I really just want some coffee.

But it's quite often a pretty much a straight through take. So it's fun. It's fun to do that. Well, it's just I think all my channels are now I need to get some channels, man. You got to get them all. They're all full. Yeah, you got to get those. You have to get more channels so the stats can keep flowing, which was what I kind of was worried about with the thousand dollar boost, just like, Oh, this is. You're filling us up, baby. It's more than the channels worth.

Yeah, because my channel with podcasting, there is 20 bucks. Well, it used to be 60, now it's 20. Yeah. Filling up. I was, I was looking at the stats for the shows just over the last two weeks because over the last two weeks I've. Been doing. The four different shows, you know, plus the rock and roll pre show, but the For Normal podcast and planet rage, unrelenting and grumpy old bands. Were all just right. Under that 800 to 1000 complete downloads.

And then you have to look at all the partial downloads. But they were all they were all equalizing. Yeah. So tell a friend about all of those shows and random thoughts if you're listening to this one. But mostly this one. Yeah. Boost those audiences up to basically people just want to hear me. Does it really matter who I'm talking to? They just want to hear me talk to somebody. But not just me.

So it's not like they just want to hear me because then they would go to random thoughts, but they want to hear it's. Actually they want to hear your reaction. Could be. Because generally when you're doing your show with somebody else, you're more of the reacting guy than the main speaking. We're always trying to bring the boom or something. Yeah, so this is a funny thing. So the number of sets that I've got in here is gone way up.

But the dollar amount is almost exactly where it was half a year ago. Because everything has crashed. Yeah. So I've gotten enough sets to bring back the value of the town to where it was when I have, like, a third of the staff. Will just wait when this goes up to $1,000,000 a bitcoin. That's what I'm waiting on. And they're right. We'd all be in good shape if that goes up to a million bucks a bitcoin.

Well, I mean, if we can convince Putin to start using Bitcoin, you know, this thing's going to go up. I mean, you're the guy with the connection there, so make that happen. Yeah, a lot of people don't know you're like second or third in line. If Putin goes, it's GM and President Gene. I'm way beyond second or third. I owe you that. You're up to like what, fourth? Fifth. What happened? Hmm? I'm sorry. We probably can't talk about that on the show. I understand. Frank, but. Yes, but, yeah.

There was a scam. I thought this was interesting. One of the guys that I follow a little bit on YouTube who runs a record store down in South Carolina or something like that, was talking about a scam, discogs, which is the largest marketplace out there. It's not an eBay in the sense that it's an auction site. It's not an auction site. But this is where a lot of people list vinyl records for sale. It's kind of the vinyl marketplace, and I think it's the largest vinyl marketplace on the Internet.

And he was like, This album came up that he's been wanting for a long time, and it was like a really good price. So he's like, I go through and I try to pay and it won't let me pay because it was saying it was in Ukraine and that it wouldn't process the payment because of the unrest in Ukraine, blah blah blah. So he starts emailing back and forth with the guy in the guise of, well, you could just use my PayPal address direct in before he ended up paying the guy.

The guy who actually owned the Discogs account emailed him is like my account was hacked. There's scams going on. People are using this because they know. So they take these albums that are really expensive. They put them out there for good prices. People then want them and the payment fails because they put in that they're from Ukraine and then that's how they get them to send the money to a different address. So it's a pretty brilliant. Yeah. It's a great scam really. It comes down to it.

Is pretty good. I just I guess I got I didn't get the stamp. I just sold the station yesterday. Oh, so yeah. There have been no boos from user now but no people are in the troll room. At the troll room Daddy-O when we do these shows live. Mm. And we know certain dubbing had been able to boost before but I don't know, something happened to the app.

This is also the problem with some of the podcasting 2.0 is that when things don't work, there's not a number to call to be like, Hey, trying to send money to my mom in the Ukraine. Yeah, y'all. But I thought that was a very interesting way to scam. It's new anyway. Like, no, it won't. The money won't go through because I'm in the if you want to help support people in Ukraine. So but I'll just give you my PayPal address direct like that's any different if you're actually in Ukraine.

So let me see if I can open up a new thousand dollar channel here. Jean do. And behind the scenes Satoshi work the work of the Lord. If you want to learn more about podcasting 2.0, go to new podcast apps dot com or new podcast. Yeah, I'm definitely right whichever way. Let's see if this works. I'm trying it right from my phone. I don't know if this is going to work. I've never tried to open a new channel from my phone. Well, then you could try boosting random thoughts.

Aria de um b thoughts dot com try boosting that 500 bucks and I'll tell you if it comes through. Okay, let me see on the only way it looks like none of my channels go to that channel stuff. Oh, really? It's a good channel though. Is it? Yeah. It is more popular than surging speaks. I know what? That people are flocking to it. I hear they play them both at the same time as well. Maybe they play a play. Yeah. What is the left channel one on the right. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm sure somebody playing that that way. All right. Well it's still trying anyway, let's move on, shall we? Yeah. What do you got? Uh, so, um, Supreme Court's on fire. What's going on? What's going on? People don't understand. How. Our nation is set up. And I was just having this conversation with my wife this morning, which is that. Was like a Supreme Court insurrection to me. Why don't we jail those people or something? Well, they should.

I mean, the folks that had to be teargassed, what that was in Arizona, at the state capitol, I believe, where they had to be teargassed. That sounds like more than an insurrection. They were being gassed. They were? Yeah. It was like they were trying to get in what's going on. And it sounds like it, right?

It sounds like they should definitely be jailed. But I mean, I really do believe the problem in the United States is, one, people are ignorant, just don't care, but they don't understand the system. So you're not even having the same argument. The people that are saying they want abortion to be legal, well, that has nothing to do with Roe versus Wade. And I know that seems crazy to a lot of people, but it doesn't because it becomes a state issue.

And the Supreme Court did not say you can't have abortions. Florida. Florida might not, but California, Illinois, New York, abortions are way, way legal. Come have them for any reason you want, right? The Supreme Court did not say they can't do that. They just said it's up to the individual states. And a lot of people think that the United States is some horribly oppressive country when it comes to abortion. Look at Europe. I think 47 of the European nations have.

More. More strict laws on abortion than we do in the United States. So explain to me how then the United States is. But these people that are out there protesting these fucking imbeciles have no idea about any of that. So you can't have the debate because they don't even understand what they're debating it. It's kind of sad. It is. No, I agree. There's a lot of people that just are used to talking in a whole lot. I don't even know how long the videos on which call it our 30 seconds or whatever.

Like tick tock, tick tock. Yeah, yeah. Mm. Which tick tock. Again, this is interesting to me. That. The Trump administration was trying to block tick tock getting kicked out of the Apple store, you know, the Android store, get it just totally bad. You know, everybody thought that was horrible. Well, guess what the Biden administration is trying to do now? They're trying to get. Tick tock banned.

Because they realize now Trump was right again, that tick tock is more than just a cesspool that allows your daughters to dance half naked and post it to the world. But it's collecting way more personal data than they're saying.

And this was something I brought up from like minute one, which is this is an app that is basically being run by not only a foreign nation, but a very questionable foreign nation in China that could use this information for a whole lot of things because they have access to your contacts, they have access to your GPS location, they have access to, well, what's up with that? Everything you're doing within your day? Yeah. They have access to it.

My thing was always like, well, then this would be really good for like blackmailing politicians and stuff where it's like, Oh, look, I notice this politicians tick tock and this politicians tick tock. We're at the same motel, motel for the same time, these 20 different times. You know, it's, you know, you can really get a lot of good blackmailing material if you can get all of that kind of data off of people's phones.

And it's now in the hands of the Chinese government for everybody that's using tick tock, which if you're using tick tock. Let me ask you this, though. You are more if you think that that's totally true, but how much worse does it really do that data be in the hands of the Chinese government versus the US government? Not much, to be fair. I just think that the US government has way more capability to blackmail than the Chinese government.

Maybe for different reasons though, although I mean, I'm not going to say that the United States government would be more moral when it comes to what they would do with the with the data. I think both governments are equally pragmatic on this count. But it is something that you need to know about all apps is that they're not just a little thing. You put out your phone and then you may forget about it.

Yeah, I mean, if you're doing something that is blackmail able, like taking photos of yourself with hookers and heroin needles, Hunter Biden may be having that and tic tac in having the Chinese government be able to blackmail is not a good thing. I mean, no, it's much better just put it on tic tac. It saves them the work of trying to get you to dig into it. Well, I think once you install Tic TAC, it's just running the camera nonstop for you.

And then just it finds it uses AI to find the best 30 seconds segments. I wouldn't doubt that, which is why I was intrigued. And I don't know if this is on every Android phone or for just the Samsung one. They know the software is a little bit different. But recently, I mean, maybe over the last year or so, they do have a new feature which pops up, which is like there's these apps that you have on your phone that you gave them permissions, but that you haven't used in X amount of days.

So we're going to sleep them now so they don't have those permissions. Right, which is a really good idea. But you should never given the the permissions in the first place because that's where you get in trouble. Okay. I was just waiting for the point of that. Yes, that's all true. I would agree that it's a good idea for your apps that have permission. And don't give me that's always hilarious when the earliest one that I remember was, Hey, it's a flashlight app. You want a flashlight app?

It'll turn the light of your phone on. By installing this flashlight app, we'd like to request permission to your contacts, to your GPS location to hear. That's like. Right, exactly. Oh, yeah. I just I was I hate installing Adobe software. It is one of the worst pieces of shit software product out there. You mean Android or Adobe? Adobe. Okay. And it is the most Snoopy software in the world. I'd like him in the ship. But I mean, it does. It does what you needed to do.

But the installer is the rabbit buggy. So I thought, okay, well I'm not currently I'm paying for Adobe, right? Don't get me wrong, I'm still out like hundreds of dollars a year. I just don't use it because I fucking hate it. But the I reinstalling on the new computer I had to figure out what I want to do for PDF. So I'm like, well, I could go with a third party PDF thing, which is what I used to do. I'm like, But what if I just get like PDF Reader? Maybe that'll be better.

So I get PDF Reader, which is the crippled version from Adobe, install it, download it, and it's like, okay, well go ahead and start. No options on this installer. It's just you launch it and it's installing and you see the little progress bar installing, downloading and installing. Adobe Reader McAfee writing software protection or some other piece of shit thing like three fucking products that I didn't ask for get installed along with Adobe and then Adobe Stock then eh.

Are you sure you're not doing this with a pirated installer? Because I've literally doing it off the Adobe. You just don't notice these things, you're not a tech guy. You look at all these, this, this I mean, this is true. Like that was the ironic part of grumpy all of the that was is that neither one of you actually were Bens. That was designer. Baby. Yes, exactly. You were web designer, not a Ben. And he was a software tester, not a Ben. So yeah.

Anyway, and I and I actually wrote software. So my point with. This wrote a book, but nobody bought it. So did it really. I do believe that the total bullshit I bought over a thousand copies. But you are your biggest fan is a yes. And then I'll have plenty of paper to burn when when the end days come and we have to light fires the old way. That is true.

Yes. No, my point with this is so if it installs an extension into your browser again from the Adobe Installer and the browser, now because of all the stuff happening, you know, they've, they've got enough security controls in there, the browsers say oh would you like to give this extension permission to read all your websites to save all your passwords to I mean, it's just like basically, yes, give everything to fucking Adobe Extension on my browser. What the fuck?

Adobe is the most malicious piece of software you can install right now. That is a legitimate piece of software. Like you'd have to go out and track down, you know, some shareware third party virus written crap to try and beat what Adobe is doing as a legitimate company, allegedly. I think you're getting pirated versions of this. Either that or it's their. Well, if. Adobe if the Adobe website has pirated versions on their websites, then that's what I'm getting.

Well, see, because I only install through the Creative Cloud app, which is the thing you get when you get the Yeah. Subscribe when you install the creative cloud app, you give all rights to your computer to it. It will let you know what rights you have left on your computer. It never installed any antivirus and never installed anything that I didn't want. Okay, do this right now. Do this right now. Yes, right.

Click on your toolbar. Select Task Manager, click the processes tab and tell me how many things have the word Adobe that are running in the background right now. I know there's a couple that run for there. Let's see process is can I see is there a search here. Just alphabetical by name. Oh, well, this was a bad idea. Why? I don't know. Something just beep. That was. I didn't hear anything in the stream. Okay, well, that's good. Let's zoom. Under apps.

I have Adobe Audition, but that's because that's what's recording the show. Background processes. Let's see, I have nothing with the way here. We have bitdefender. Yeah. That's running. And then we have. The. Adobe Collaboration that's between their stuff, Adobe Genuine Software, Adobe IPC Broker, which makes their stuff on together. But I don't see anything that says I've got McAfee or or any of that other stuff.

I mean, I know when you install Adobe that you're going to get Adobe just like I don't really understand why in the processes of the background stuff for like Bitdefender there's like 15 different ones. I've got like 12 different brave browsers, just the only got one browser open. I mean that's, that's just the way it. Sounds to me like your system is totally ineffective because I don't have, I have one brave I've got open.

Five Google Chrome's open even though I've only got one chrome window open. And yeah, I'm not running from. I've got mo two discovery twice for some reason. I don't know it's the. Yeah I have too much to the stories as well. I don't know what they're all about. Crappy software for the if you look at the Adobe stuff there is absolutely no reason they ought to be running stuff when there's no stuff because when you quit out of addition. But I have running.

Back yet but when you put out the exact same shit will still be running in the background. You know, things come back from stuff that runs and you can stop it from running if you want to. I mean. Basically. The stuff that you do for other updates and all this other crap. Oh, yeah, yeah. Cause it's really important. Really super important to update daily or Adobe Product. No, I didn't say it was important to update daily, but that's what it's there.

Yeah. Fuckers, they are one of the worst software companies out there. They put intrusive stuff. They collect way too much information about you. A huge part of the Adobe product line or their product line of their revenue is derived from advertising and are collecting that shit on you when you have their product every month as well. Don't use the everybody that and use the ones that don't. Windows is Microsoft is.

Now in Windows has all the permission slip it asks you when you install it would you like to do this and you say no. Well, this is why there are and I don't know if I've run it on this machine. To be fair, there's the there are different programs that kind of go out that let you change all those settings in one place with all of the the windows, which I need to do that too. But everything wants to collect data and there's no question about that. But it doesn't install like other company.

I've never Adobe not with the creative cloud maybe with an individual PDF or something. They're pimping out and doing deals with McAfee antivirus. Or yeah I've never heard that's a deal that they've got with specifically because it's free, right? You don't need to have a paid corruption to use Adobe Reader. Correct. Well they to use. Every other company that has bundled products that it it did a deal with. We'll have a little checkbox that'll say, oh, would you like to install this too?

Which is usually what I get when I. Install McAfee without warning. It just does it. You have to ask if you want to do that. I don't buy that one for a. Download it right now. We do it live on the podcast. Just download Adobe Reader and go ahead and hit install. Let's see it. It'll it won't install because it'll say you already have Adobe products installed, but when you click on it you'll see that it has McAfee in there. Come on for McAfee.

That's why I like the chocolate package manager was familiar with that. No, not at all. It is a way to install and uninstall software on Windows that is much like you would do it in a home environment. Yeah. Mm hmm. And the chocolaty that cuts down all of that. So all of these programs. You bring up a good point, because there is the Windows Store, which I've never used, but theoretically exists. Yes, we know the Windows store is there theoretically.

Right. I mean, I've seen it pop up and ask me stuff. To be fair, I. Have never used it either, which just shows you how useful the Windows. Super is. Super useful. Let's see if I can get Adobe Reader through the Windows Store only should you have it in here. I wonder if the version you get in the Windows Store doesn't have that intrusive crap in there. Because reader because it's coming. Yeah. Adobe Acrobat reader DC Uh, install here. I'll do it right now. Who cares?

It's downloading 376 megs now. You see. When you when you're generating this, this, this is the nefarious part because when I clicked on download Mm what you'll see is a big blue button for download Acrobat reader on the right side look up the left optional offers and you have to click yes install McAfee install that. So they're doing it before you download it. They're making. Oh okay. Okay, okay.

So you're it's going to blame me or you're you're basically saying it's my fault because I didn't pay attention to download button. What I'm saying it's both of your fault because one this is a very nefarious way to do it rather than when the installer pops. Up going, Yeah. Do you want this? This is contrary to standard usability standards. Yes. Well, and it's also because then if somebody else hot links to a download, then it's going to have it in it and you're not going to have any choice.

Okay. So it just said installed. It didn't even pop up in the installer when I did it from the Microsoft Store. It's like, let's see if I run it. Oh, okay. Well, it seems to work. But that is I mean, that is horrible. I'll give you that. The fact that you have to click it before you download because nobody and I've got crappy so I'm just seeing the big blue button and I'm going to go download reader. I'm not understanding that. Oh yeah that could be sucks too.

So I mean, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. For sure. That is pretty crappy. Well, all right. Well, what was the big PDF reader back in the day? Fox it and that thing just turned into a big freakin bloated mess too. It was like at the time it was like, Hey, it's the low, you know, very streamlined PDF reader that just works. And then they turn that into bloated crap, which. All. Software companies seem to want to do, too. Most of their software is turned it into bloat, free money.

And that's what it comes down to, is it's like after the software gets developed, the marketing people are like, Hey, we figured out a way to get some extra cash and it costs us nothing. How do we do that? You sign a deal with these guys and they'll give us some cash. And then we can put their product. I mean, it doesn't even matter what they do. They're just willing to give us money so he can stick in a bit of code.

And douches are booster grams a thousand starts with let's start a fun to get gene in antivirus software do you run what. You don't run antivirus? No really you run free. You're running your raw dog in the Internet. I am doing the Internet. There's a show title five, our third one. Yes, because this computer isn't used for anything other than what we're doing on it right now. And a couple of video games now. And I don't I don't web surf on here. They're very smart. They have the Mac for that.

Is the Mac up and running now. Is that the Mac Mini yet. You got that going. No. Let's take one step at a time. Okay. We're on the mode to that should be enough for you. The Mac Mini that I got over a month ago is still sitting in this box. I need to get it out. I bought a monitor for it. I got a 43 inch monitor for it, but I have to flip the computer. Yet what I need is a does anybody make a a switch, a KVM, whatever they call them.

Right. That's key. Yeah. There are software VMs that work quite well that I use that are Mac and P.C. both at the same time. Yeah, because that's what I would like to be able to have three monitors and then choose one system or kind of combine the two because that would be fun.

Yeah. So they will, they will let you just like in fact the way I had it up as I had the, the Mac to the right of the PC monitors so I could literally just drag the mouse from the PC edge of the screen, the Mac edge of the screen, just magically and it magically is in the Mac side. And at the point, yeah, the same keyboard, same mouse, doesn't matter which system. Pretty slick. I think I still have that computer.

It's the old Mac Mini now I have the new Mac Mini but I haven't migrated anything know. Oh what do you do with the old Mac Mini. I don't know. It's this thing here. I'll probably throw it away though. If you're going to throw it away, send it to me. There'll be a good one and they'll. Start running and. Yeah, play with that thing. Hey, I play. We probably. Do that. I mean it's got an SSD and it's a nice seven by four I think.

Hey, maybe if I'll play with Raspberry Pi, I'll find a use for any little box. I mean, that's. Out of the way. A lot more powerful than I. Yeah, I. I'm sure you will play with any of that, but no, this is a lot more powerful than, you know, than the Raspberry Pi is. Yeah. Oh, there's no question. Yeah. And I don't. Like I don't think it'd be very good for mining Bitcoin. Well other than that.

Why was originally thinking it would be good to get a the Mac Mini just for doing the podcasting because that is one thing in the room that makes noise. Where you're recording is a desktop windows, you know where the Mac minis are silent but the software and the gates and everything, I'm not even sure it's needed that way. When I did Plant Rage with Larry on Monday, it was like a thousand degrees, I guess, in California.

And I could hear the air conditioning going in the background, you know, even cutting through his gate times. And he's like, Oh, well, I'll turn it off. I'm like, No, no, I'm going to test out these new isotope filters. And they worked like a charm. Yeah, yeah. They're pretty good job. Well, the the headset that I used last time we talked, which obviously the mic is tiny. It's a headset, Mike. It's not a big old mike like the 320 there.

There is a difference in sound for sure, but the DSP portion of that thing, it does have that built in to where you can turn on noise reduction and you can you like you can literally hear it working where you know, you've got some constant monotone droning in the background and it takes it about to maybe maybe one or 2 seconds and then it just fades away. Yes, it's there anymore. It's gone.

And so it's kind of like the old Bose headsets that I've been wearing on planes for decades, but much better. Well, I will say with a little tweaking to the E. Q I thought you sounded great on the recording of the last podcast. Yeah, but. But not live. No, it was a little long. Yeah, there's no question about it. Comic strip blogger Bruce tell Russian the citizenship holder to use Microsoft Edge as pdf reader Edge has even pdf annotation. Though he is absolutely right. He's absolutely right.

That's what I've been doing. Wow. You know, I guess. We agree on something. This moment seems to be and I agree on most things, he's just happens to be wrong about Ukraine, that's all. But most other things. I think he's actually right. PDF Annotations and drawing even built in. Yes it does. And he's absolutely right. It works very well. The problem I have is I have to work on fairly complex PDFs, but often contracts.

And so you get into areas where I need to actually not just draw on top of it, but do some editing. And that's where getting like reader is the bare minimum. That'll let me do something like that. If I really wanted to, I'd put in the fall, you know, Adobe, the whole suite. What is the, what is a non reader called Acrobat Pro. Pro I think. Pro DC or whatever the hell it is. Yeah I do that which. It does and that's amazing things I read and.

I will install that full suite on the Mac, I will say on the Mac that there'll be three. It is not as intrusive as it is on the PC, on the PC. It is just ridiculously true. Well, I think that the Mac infrastructure is still better for keeping apps apart. Yeah. Yeah. Like Apple won't let them do a lot of Windows, right? Well, because there's no registered, which is a big part of the problem where things are being scraped from, if I'm not mistaken.

I mean, I'm not a banner, anything, but I think that's one of the biggest issues with. Well and you're not a ban, but I did ask you for some tech support. Yeah, that's true. So there you go. You sent me some registry files to get all. That's still the. Bit that makes the. Most. That is the magic part of the MOTU. And this this goes back to I understand the pretty box the road pro caster two that just came out and I get that it's a fun little thing to play with.

And Adam has his sound dialed in now and sounding really good. It might just be going back to the Electra voice microphone, but it sounds. Good. I would tend to agree that was the make that I got him using. Yeah, well, he soldiers originally. Didn't steal mine. He did? Yeah, he. Well, I told him you have to try this and then he said, I'm not giving this back to you. This sounds really good and I don't want to risk it being a one off. So I'm just keeping this one.

Right because every mike, it could be one of those things. There's a slight difference that it has. There is. There is. Yeah, yeah. You got to get a good one. But I don't understand yet why as the owner of a MOTU MK four which Adam has and I have and you have a similar one as far as how the software works, why you would choose the road caster box. Over. The MOTU, you are still looking for a reason.

No, I think the multi still does more like the stupid thing that I was complaining about at the beginning of the show. The Matrix, which is basically all the inputs and all the outputs and you get to decide digitally by clicking checkboxes what the what. Yes. Where everything routes. There's nothing else out there like this. And there's someone on the MOTU that we're still not even use. I've never even turned on a live level or anything like that which are right now.

Yeah. You know it's amazing stuff and I love the gear. Well and the thing that the MOTU do is you know Adam saying well yes the, the new version two of the road bikes has dual use BS and you can have two different minuses, which is great on the MOTU, you can have 24 mix. Mike Right. You can have a whole. Literally nothing else exists that does the. Well. And I mean he was jazzed that, hey, I could talk to Dvorak without it going out of the stream, but I can still be connected to the stream.

And I'm like, the MOTU could do that too. Always been able to do that for years. Yeah. You just got to, you got to hook it up. Well you have to do the registry hack on those boxes in order to get that. But, but. It is an official registry hack that came from MOTU. Yes. Yes. And the only reason I get it from you is because that's easier for me than trying to search it down on the MOTU website. They don't make it easy. To don't make it easy to find it all. Yeah.

And I'm thinking they're just kind of dumb because podcasters would find that capability to be. Yeah. Mike It's not just podcasters, it's for live audio. I mean for podcasters, you're talking about recording the podcast, not listening, but right for anybody that's streaming, I mean, look at all these people making millions off YouTube and Twitch and stuff. They need this all the time because quite often they have multiple guests at the same time.

And so each guest has to have their own mics minus coming in. Otherwise you're going to hear yourself or at least half the people you hear themselves. Right, bouncing. So, so yeah. And so software products like what we were trying for video stream yard does this in software themselves though you can have ten people on there and each of the ten people only here's the other nine but that's a service and it's not. It's 50 bucks a month.

This is not a cheap service that in fact, it's more than Dobie. Yeah, well, it adds up very quick. Which reminds me, I have to cancel it because I'm still paying for it. Yeah. Don't do that. Yeah, I'm going to cancel it. Um, so yeah, I mean, there's ways to do it other than the MOTU, but the module does all of that in hardware. Yeah. The no agenda. Millennials said he picked up what you've got the that is the MOTU Ave Ultra. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. Yeah that's and this is the other crazy thing.

They're not available right now. They, they stopped manufacturing them I think seven months ago or something because you know factory in China couldn't do it. There's some shit. Are they working in conjunction with the road to sell these boxes. I know. Right. And the my my co-host. So Jean speaks to a man named best dude named Ben. Named Ben? Yep He's been trying to buy one. And he says the the only availability right now is on eBay for use boxes.

And they're selling for higher than Hubert's Price. If nobody wants to use box. Yeah and they exactly right the for you and so they are he reached out to the company finally got a hold of somebody they're and the guy said they're yeah I can't promise you anything all I can tell you is we don't have any shipments going out from here until next year. Wow. Next year, still to. Next. Year, six months plus. So they will not have had any manufactured for a year.

Basically, the one thing that the world is. Considered a current product line. Well, right. Because they're still technically making it. They're going to say it's a supply chain chip or something like that, I'm sure. Mm hmm. But somehow road is getting this stuff. But the one thing they do have, and I'd be curious to know from The Godfather, Adam Curry, if he I know he listens to this show every now and then, how the affects addition to that works because I have the physical.

And you said you have one set. Yeah I did the that. The oral exciter and I love the way that sounds now if that adds that exact same functionality that it. Does I've, I so I've, I've played with the first version of it and I don't know if they've changed it for a second version. In the first version. It does have though those functions, but they're all sort of preset to the light setting. So they don't. Have minimal big bottom minimal. Yeah. We want more big bottom.

Well, I guess if you're looking for a big bottom box, that's fine. But they're not as apparent and obvious and as extreme as your configuration, for example. And if you want to hear, why don't you do three now disable the the big bottom and the expander and let the people hear what you actually sound like. What they've heard with that. Because for a long time I didn't have this hooked up.

But if we can turn this off mid-sentence here, you'll hear there is a little bit of a difference in the audio between that and the tweaking would also be a little bit different on the E. Q if you wanted to, you know, they all work in conjunction. So if you turn off the E IQ, this is what you get, which is now it sounds like I get a lot more like this. This is the real and you guys, by the way, and I'm running with no processing. Oh, this is the natural, smooth, soft voice coming out of me.

You are lying. You are lying. I tell you. I have no processing. This is straight, straight voice. Jean's got 18 boxes, and they're like, Van Drew has all the all the great gear running it through a whole box after box. Do the massaging to make the audio sound just perfect. I have no room for any boxes here. Yeah, well, I think you should have a little extra when the Mac mini comes in that that'll save you some room and it's mainly for doing the live streams. Yeah.

Because again when you're doing the processing all. Not. All but a lot of this stuff is built in to things like Adobe. Audition and even in The Audacity, the Free one. Yes. A lot of this stuff is built in. And it makes everything stuff. So there's no reason why your podcast has to sound like crap if you can't afford the gear right out of the box to make it sound good live.

You do a little bit of process but don't do a lot of processing because there's nothing worse than sounding like a cell phone underwater, which is what happens when you start adding any of these filters. That's one thing I've learned through a lot of trial and. Error is. No matter what you're doing, whether it's a noise reduction, whether it's an anti reverb, you want to do the least amount possible.

You don't even want to take away all of what you're trying to get out most of the time, because it'll usually start sounding a little bit artificial, but you just want to lower the bad stuff. That's true. But the best thing for private, as everybody should do, is there you go. Separate the voices. Yeah, well, that is that is not here. That's what all the kids like. The No agenda millennials is.

Tell Jean, I have a Python script that allows me to control the mode to internet interface with a USB mixer. That's nice. Kind of interesting. Which mixer? Yeah, which mixer. So you can basically make it into a business. So this is the perfect thing that you make it into the physical. You have the faders if you want that. Yeah. Is that I don't mind the faders on the iPad because then you know I, I like the surface but, but I do have a physical mixer and I happen to not use. Yeah, I do too.

I've got a nice outlet and he's the USB mixer, the Godfather gear mixer, whatever that is. That's what the answer was. Yes. So it must be the one that Adam has on his. Page for. Godfather Gear, whichever the mixer is. Well, I have the one that Adam used to use, which is the the bearing Beringer. Beringer, whatever. Yeah. Beringer, I guess. Motorized mixer. So all the sliders actually move on the physical panel when they're changed on the digital side. That sounds fancy.

And the problem with it is that the motors that move the sliders make noise. No, I wish it was that. They're super fast. So what you hear is what sounds like metal slamming into metal. Oh, well, that's even better. It's like the, the, the, the, the know when you move them around. So I got this because Adam had it and I thought, well that's kind of cool. He's a pro I'm a pro wannabe. So I kind of, I figured I'd get it.

And then about, I don't know, six months later, like, yeah, I got rid of it, made too much noise. I'm like, Yeah, no shit, man. That's surprising how you were using it. It's the one he has is the icon I control. Yeah, I have that too. Yeah I got that one. Really? Cool. Okay, well, then I definitely want to get that Python script is I do have that mixture as well and that would be fun to play with. Yeah. Hop over to Jean over on no agenda social. Yeah. Did you see Taylor Swift's engaged.

I mean that I think. Is your heart broken now or what is my email. It's Jean that's surging that come what. Is my email. That's I. Don't email myself how the hell would I know you. Are so old. I don't know what the problem is like. You know with my is. I send it to you every day but it's in the system so I couldn't remember exactly it was actually but sir AJ over I no agenda social posted that the link to the article that Taylor Swift was engaged and his comment was it'll be okay Darren O'Neil.

You're. Good for her anyway. There you go. Yeah, man. And I guess I told myself. Who's the who's the lucky lady? It's a guy. It's an actor, British guy. Oh, British. Okay, so he just got it right. Thank you for fending off that much difference. Hey, every. Everybody knows British men. They're all gay. I told my wife what he posted, and she just laughed. I'm like I was. It's always good to get her after the first marriage anyway. So I mean, you know, you, you, you know.

It's going to be a lot poorer after the first one. No. Well, only because he's rich, too, so they probably. Can you imagine the prenups involved when the both people come out coming from a. I think it's actually easier if both people are rich. I guess because you don't care. No, because you absolutely care. But you have staff to take care of that stuff. Yeah. You have so much money on your own that you don't, you know, it's like, yeah, okay, whatever.

Yeah. I mean, typically what they do is they look at the actual amount of money that each person has, and that's the guaranteed money you're going to walk away with. And then the money that's earned during the course of the marriage, there's something in the formula that'll be put together for an equitable split of that, and then they'll have a clause in there for losses. They'll have a clause in there for sitting in your bed and blaming it on oh I heard cause clause. Oh that.

Yes, I guess that would be the name I forgot about that. You're a lawyer. I would you know, I'm okay. I'm okay with a divorce. Taylor she'll be way easier to get as a divorcee. And what's your wife say about that? Jill Biden. My time. The same thing she said when I was dealing with the playmates. Are you think you can get that? Go ahead. Uh huh, uh huh. There's a certain amount of confidence or insanity to it, but it all works out. That's funny.

Wait, you were married when you were doing the Playmate thing? Yeah, that's funny. I mean, hey, it was good money until. Until the one chick wanted more, and then it was like, you're crazy. Uh huh. I mean, really, it's unfortunate that that happened just because I believe there would have been, you know, there could have been a lot of money involved in that particular scam. But we live and learn as we move on. If you're really smart, you're just built only fans back then. Right?

That would have been exactly it. Like we need a way. Of course, this was going back to the time where doing video wasn't really a thing yet. Yeah. 420 by 324. Very small. Is it the 160 by 320 or something. The ability to easily take money wasn't there because I mean, I don't even know. You know, I think there were like po boxes and stuff involved. You know, this. Was this. Was early on. Things have gotten so much easier with all of these subscription services for everything. I think so.

But of course, all these companies are taking money. But with that said, as long as you know what that is and you build that in, it's everything's a scam. I mean selling stuff like eBay's a. Scale are programs used to be pretty handy right about now. When you see this why they're useful trolls. There are useful rules about I got banned from there but. You can get in the. I got a question from the useful trolls anybody know like a good home remedy for this although.

That means you're in the troll room if you're reading what the trolls are saying. So I'm just saying. But I'm not in the drawing room, so I have no idea. That's why I'm asking you to ask the trolls to see if anyone there has a good remedy for tennis elbow. Don't play tennis. Well, but I have a game I have to play. So now like I'm a little sore in the elbow and it's been about a week and it's not going away. Let me ask you this. Do you use circles, bombs and salves?

No. Circle over at lavender blossoms. Lavender blossoms that I've. Never gotten the free shipment from him now. Well, see if you would talk about his product on your podcast. Myles Product from the dolls, bombs and lotion. The lavender. Lavender blossoms. Yes, dawg. Uh huh. And he's never sent a free sample to us, but we have ordered from him a couple of times and he's loaded up the boxes. So nice. I would I would order up some of the the THC, and he has THC.

And I know that he sees the new one, the original with the CBD, but he's now got CBD and THC bombs and stuff which allegedly do a fantastic job. You know, I started my mom on them because she was having I. Would imagine I mean, I've heard that is the case from a number of people and, uh, but I'm actually more, I guess asking about a solution of rather than a pain removal. You mean get better at playing so you don't get hurt like or a training program. That's an asshole that. You're welcome.

Uh huh. I thought that was the system here. I thought that was the, you know. Insults are Jean podcast. Yes. Well, this is what I'm telling you. After doing a few more grumpy old beds, people were like, Wow, you guys really have a great chemistry. It's like, we just fucking tell each other off all show long. Exactly. It's like that's the chemistry is seething hatred. Yeah. Is people want in a podcast.

Well I keep I keep waiting for the next time you have COVID so I can invite Ryan to come in fill in. That would be interesting to see this would be if that happens then you fill in on Wednesday for grumpy old beds and he fills in Friday for unrelenting. And you guys have a kumbaya thing and you gurus suggest don't jerk off so much as a remedy. To. Help the trolls. Thank you. Although maybe if I will be jerking off more than my elbow would be more useful when I went to play tennis. Right.

That's it. You can build up the strength that day. Doc, how do I make my elbow? I mean, honestly, at this stage of my life that such not a main concern at all. I mean, if you're really doing these self pleasure ation, I mean, does your hand even really have to move much? And I don't think you've got elbow movement going. Right, exactly. It's a there comes a point in a man's life where it's just easier. To play video games. Well, to play video games and have a 22 year old under the desk.

Right. Is to do anything with your own hands. I mean, honestly. Play video games and eat pizza. And yeah, when it's when that that's easier because you just don't there anymore. You know, when you've given up, when you start wearing Adidas tracksuits. That was, that was about 60 years ago. Yeah. Well I could see that. Mm. I mean I really, I wear t shirts and, and shorts every day. I could, I could see you sitting there right now in boxers in the wife beater.

They are, it's very bright orange shorts and a michael Scott t shirt that says funny how the turntables. Uh huh, exactly. The other day I was making dinner. My wife's like, are your shorts on inside out? Oh, I guess pay attention. To like, hey, you can get an extra couple of days of usage out of them that way. Right? Yeah. No, I mean, I do the laundry, so I'm just trying to make it very. Easy to last a little bit longer. Yeah. Yeah, well, you. I guess when.

When Taylor realizes he needs a wife rather than the husband thinking, call you up. Hey, I can cook, I can clean, I'm a sex machine. What more do you need? Mm hmm. Tennis elbow. According to bullies. Steve, dame bullies. Deeds as tennis elbow, same as swimming elbow. It's a repetitive injury that eventually starts atrophy. So. So. And you fix it? Yeah. How do you fix it? Dame Billie Jean needs fixing. I mean, I don't mind the the little bit of pain that comes with it.

It's more the idea of like, I, you know, I want my elbow back. Yeah, well, that would be that. So it's like long-covid. You've got like long tennis. Elbow. Like it kind of hurt for. Yeah, I'm probably just you haven't stretched that for two years. I and I think it's tendencies what it is if I remember right it's muscles and then thing were. You going all out too. Is there a reason why you were like really trying to win or something or what was.

Well, yeah, I was playing somebody was younger than me, so of course I was trying to. Oh, you were trying to keep up. I get it. You didn't want to be like, oh, sorry, Jean. Oh. Yeah. I used to play tennis back in the day. I used to do a lot of things back in the day. I did. I remember I played tennis back when Macro played tennis all. In fact. Which one was angrier? You were. McEnroe I think back then, probably back row okay. Today you no doubt about. That today probably me.

I don't think McEnroe is very angry anymore. He's calmed down. Well, once you make enough millions, you could be calmer. Yeah, but that was back in the day with like, going Bjorn Bjorn Borg and Martina Navratilova was playing back then. Yeah, tennis was big back then. Yeah. And I, you know, I had like four or five different all the way, George and shirts. Outfits. Yeah. Got my Adidas, my, uh, right thigh. You have the long beard, then? Everything's fairly white. Yeah, of course.

I had the long beard. I've always had a long beard. I don't think I've ever looked. But the difference is, I also had a lot of hair on my head. Well, then I had a sweatband on my head. But never seen a professional tennis player with a beard down like halfway down his chest. It wasn't halfway down my chest back then. It was about an inch and a half. One oh. Well, see, that's normal then. Mm. No, it would be harder to play tennis professionally with this easy top beard

I think. Yeah. Problems with the glasses. Yeah. But that would be a cool look if you could pull it off, you would definitely get media attention. Uh huh, uh huh. The bad boy of tennis. Yes, yeah. The unnamed Russian. There you go. Ivan. Tennis player. Uh huh. I mean, let's. Hear how he overthrew governments down in Costa Rica. Yes, that's right. Uh huh. Oh, what the. Wait, we're not supposed to talk about that yet. There's Been 30 years. In Venezuela, was it somewhere. Maybe?

Great podcasts, great podcast. Podcast. Nobody say nothing. That this will. All be edited out of the final version. You will hear nothing. Well, I just want to make sure that we're not going to have this version uploaded anywhere in bar. Nobody listens anyway. No, that's true. That's it's it's a hey. So I started putting ads into searching speak. And bully Steve says yoga before you tell me about. That and stretching okay doctor or does he mean like watching yoga? Cause I did see that.

Do not miss gender. It is she dame. Okay. Dr. Dame bully Steve says stop doing the repetitive motion for me. I had to change my swimming stroke. Interesting. Higher bar for long distance, open water swimming. So you have to adjust. Okay then. And how long did it take to not feel like every time. You're like your elbow was going to fall off? Every guy doesn't feel that bad, but it feels like it's just kind of a more of a loss of strength kind of thing. It's a tendon issue.

So it needs a little rest. And then a little bit of yeah. I used to have a Achilles issue. All those. Years ago and fix that by buying the best shoes on the earth. A six. Rock. Crocs. With. The open tile. I have like 15 different of crocs, variety of colors. I've never tried those because I try to budget for different shoes and only the Reebok ever fits, right? Yeah. The crocs, I guarantee you are going to fit right. Everybody says it is a tendon issue and it takes longer to heal.

So, I mean, it may take a little while. Yeah. All right. So, yeah, I'll probably just have to watch it. I don't do repetitive things like washing dishes. Right. You have somebody else do that. They bring the 22 year old girl to do your dishes. I mean, they don't they don't do this. Well, they they don't even know. What this. Dishwasher is. I mean, literally, like, what's that. What does that do? Why is it here?

No, this is the dishes is what gets done by, you know, parents that are they they usually they usually will eat off paper plates or whatever they get at the take out or they're so much easier than washing. Or being wined and dined. Yeah, sometimes. But tell me, these ads that searching speaks, are they for manscaping products, boner pills? What are we. Yeah, so good question. Good question. No, actually promoting other podcasts.

So I'm I mean, I say I'm starting to add technically there are ads, but they're actually really just cross-promotion with other podcasts. Which isn't a bad idea. I know that minus of the fun fact Friday show and this pod for there's a lot of people that you know interact through no agenda through the no agenda social who are all podcasters and I know there's a repository of a, you know, basically ads that people do for their own shows. But I just don't know how you do that.

I mean, I get it if you're doing that with like two or three other shows, but beyond that how do you do that? Because it's like, well, there's fifth. Of the reasons I started doing it is, well, there's two things here. One is the only audience that lets me face it that we all have is the same people that are not on social. So my goal is to expand that audience to people that have never heard of no agenda.

And so the reason I started doing the ads is this is a brand new thing that is on Buzz Sprout, which is the hosting company. I, I. Also they're actually they're little. They're the ones that are facilitating the growth portion of the podcast. Yeah. The good idea, I mean they have a lot of customers doing podcasts, right. And how are they doing this and then how are you guaranteed somebody else's running yours?

And how do you know that your show doesn't have 10 million listeners and you're running an ad for somebody that has three listeners? Yeah, well, it's that because I have three and I'm running the ads for people. I have 10 million, but I don't have no idea. It's a brand new thing that just started. So I'm willing and interested to participate and see if anything goes anywhere. If if all of a sudden if I start spiking, that's pretty, pretty good indicator that my ads are working.

But if they don't, then okay, I guess that was an experiment worth doing. And so there's literally one ad in the middle of the podcast somewhere that is for another podcast, the. Middle weight that do you put it in yourself or is this. They put it in for you? Oh, that sucks. Well they, they don't just stick it in the middle of cutting off somebody's speaking, they're, they're putting it into a pause. But it may not be the pause yourself, which is to put it into.

So it's the good thing is it's automated. I don't have to think about it. The bad part is you're right, is that if I was doing it, I would probably do it on a segment break where they're just going to look for a long pause. Right? Yeah. And since I run the algorithm on my podcast before uploading, that removes all long pauses and makes every pause for a second. Right. There's very little. It's going to be really hard for them to find a natural break.

You know, with that said, you could just put the longest pause of the show, like half on. Purpose. And try to make it into an ad break. Although, you. Know, I wonder if that works. I'm going to test it. So I'm next. So I think probably an hour in we'll just like maybe we'll even talk about let's see if this works and then not talk for 15 seconds, but maybe doing let's say let's say 5 seconds, that would still be longer than anything else. And then see see if that's really thick.

It might. Yes, yes. The idea of mid roll ads, did you run this by Adam because he would tell you you're an idiot for doing it? Uh, don't eat. They're owned by Adam. It's my. Fucking chef. Oh, I know, but I'm just saying, I'm guessing he would hate the concept. Well, this is a good way to test whether he still listens or that. He'll be like, Jean, what are you. Doing is if he is listening and he'd bitch about it. And I've done it for two episodes and I haven't heard a peep.

So he's not listening to podcasts anymore. So this is the this is the test. You're like, you didn't mention you have you noticed that you're like the wife that's like, did you notice anything different after she comes home and has her hair completely different? Like, you notice anything different? I don't understand that. As I've always noticed, I notice any change and deviations from the norm on anyone's appearance, it seems like. Why wouldn't you notice? That's pretty obvious.

Because people aren't paying attention. Yeah, I don't understand. And I would guess. How you not notice change the most obvious thing to notice. You be like harder to notice a lack of change. Like you've gone from jet black hair to bleach blond, like, oh, no, no, you look a little different. I can't get, like. Different nail polish. I'll fucking notice that. I mean, if I have nail polish on you would notice that, I'm sure. Yeah. Well if you put different ones on next time.

Yeah. And if we have a camera running. Right that helps. Yeah. Because I just don't think that that pale moonlight really worked well for your skin type. I probably not. It's not really a great browser anymore either. Pale. Mm mm. Still out there. But I'm sure it is. You know. That's the beauty of the internet. Yeah. How many do we have. Any people you need to thank for anything? Yes. And they believe she also said her husband says dishes are a waste of the 20 year old. So he agrees with you?

Absolutely agrees. Yeah, exactly. It's something whether 20 year old for that. We are a value for value podcast, which means we put these shows out there. This is our 33rd show and you get to decide if you're getting any value out of it whatsoever. And if so, 30. Third show, that's worth at least 300. Dollars. You would think so. But now but you put a value out of it. You come over to unrelenting dot show slash donates, and all the information is there.

But our number one donor today, thanks to the magic of Satoshis, is the Lambda of Rose Frog. Never heard Rose Frog before, but they have, as I mentioned, sent in 315,000 satoshis during the show today, which is like $66.76. Yeah. Hello Amount. So it's like 33 bucks for each of us, which is. Absolutely a beautiful. Thing and show 33. That well definitely definitely very cool appreciated.

And I like that it's the number one is coming in through the new technology I mean so it is a proof of concept new pocket is is. Almost feels like people are getting rid of their stats because they know they're going to be worthless next week. They're watching the right you're watching the Bitcoin Ark go down. Down, man. Down. I've got to get rid of these before they're worthless completely. And there's something to be said to me.

Just send all your bitcoin to us and all your stats to lose access. Unnecessary Bitcoin. You can well feel free to use our address. We will store it for you until it goes back up. But Bitcoin today 19,000 364. So still hovering underneath the $20,000. Mark. And it was a high of 69. So 70 lost 50,000. Yeah it's your has. Bitcoin.

Let's like I said I've got it like literally the same value sitting in my she thing here that I've had forever and if I keep getting more in there, but it keeps going down. And so. If you keep getting out and you just keep letting them go up. And I'm never taking anything out of there. Yeah. And you know, I don't know the where bitcoin's going. I'm not sure. But it'll be fun to watch coming in with a normal PayPal donation if that is normal.

Our new buddy and I know you're getting him on the show at some point, sir. Joshua again. Oh, my God. Just dashing to stop. 26. 25, sir. Destroying money. The historian, the keeper of the historical records as again, thanks for the great news. He has become a sir recently. I know that. Yeah. Unrelenting is my new drinking buddy. He did that message me the other day that he just listened to random thoughts for the first time and that's nice.

So yeah, there's a lot of random thought you can listen to. I mean, there's only 33 episodes of this. Random thoughts I think come up like 190 or something like that. I know we're going for the big 200 there, which will be which will be fun. Yeah, I'm trying to remember. What am I on. I think I'm on like 77 or 78 searching speed. Which you can find. I'm going to it's it if you just go to. Sarcastic gene that.

Comes right out if you just go to search gene dot com, you get nothing you have to go to the. Website there podcast. That sir gene. Right dot com. But thank you sir Joshua he's down in your neck of the woods and we expect to hear him on. High. Yeah, we've been talking about doing well. Not with him but. But screw you, sir. Joshua. Yeah, screw huge. No, I've been talking about doing a meetup for No Agenda with Ben. Dude named Ben who lives in the same city as Josh.

So if that happens, obviously all three of us will be up there. Yeah, I would like to do a meet up here as well and that'll happen soon. I know somebody started one about 35 minutes or so from here, which isn't bad. That's not that bad. Which I would definitely have gone to. There was one, but there was a scheduling. Can you drive or not? The wife would drive. I mean, I Sandra, you're. Not are you legally allowed to drive is what I'm asking.

Yes, because I have not had to do a driver's test since the day thing. Correct? Yeah. Okay. And I mean, according to the eye doctor, I mean, your eye, the vision is still good enough to drive. But with the one eye, it's still not comfortable for me. I mean, I'll drive around town like I'm going 5 minutes one way or the other. Go pick up something. Not a problem, but I really wouldn't want to drive on an expressway or anything like that. So it's, you know, I feel like an old guy.

Yeah. Which kind of makes sense. But the wife would drive, but they did the the meet up here on a Sunday afternoon like before. No agenda was going to be over. So it's like this. Is, oh, you can't go to that. It's harder to do. You're working. Yeah I got hour to make and right before doing the pre. Show. So I mean I'll eventually put one together out here and do it on a, you know, maybe a Tuesday or something. So it's less Yeah. Along the, the scheduling lines. But that would be fun.

That would be a fun thing that you would be out there with all the folks out in Austin, people come out and meet. So it wouldn't be in Austin. I mean, I've done all the meet ups in Austin. Now this is up in in Dallas. It's like halfway between Dallas and Fort Worth. That is, yeah. Just Fort Worth ever cross your mind. Great George Strait song. It's not humid, but it's not too bad. I thought about moving there, but I've kind of settled on moving further south. You mean Mexico?

Or maybe you're going back to Costa Rica. Can you go back to Costa Rica? I think so, because most people that I was there hanging out with are in prison right now. But nobody would recognize you. But I'd be probably to check before I would cross that border. Not a bad idea. I mean, like two of us back in the eighties OR nineties wasn't involved in some government operation to take over a small country. Right. Who didn't overthrow a government if you didn't or who. That's right.

If you. Didn't overthrow a government. In the eighties. You were not living in the. Eighties. Yeah. I mean I'm sure they've removed picture from the Nicaraguan embassy at this point, so that would be fine. But did you have the beard back then and would you look totally different now? Oh my God, you would not recognize me. I totally looked different. No, I had no beard. I had a full set of hair. I was blond and they 300, £180. This would be a totally different guy. You're fine.

Exactly. Johnny Hipwell, all the way up from Canada, comes in with 999 and he says Gretzky donation from Jay in Canada. I'll take it the great hockey guy I like I think oh. Gretzky was so much fun to watch I the the year of the first desert storm I went to the All-Star Game here in Chicago and dude the guy even I mean it was you could always say with these players like well yeah they're good but yes because the other teams are slow playing against the best of the best.

He was still like far and above. Yeah. In Chicago. I mean, it was fun watching guys like Dennis Savard. And although I haven't watched the current iteration of the Blackhawks much, what I saw was like an early Patrick Kane. The stuff these guys can do, moving around the ice, absolute lutely amazing. It's a lot. Yeah. I, I've always enjoyed the hockey I played as a kid and then I stopped playing as a kid because. People kept tackling you and.

Well, no, because I just coming home with injuries and I made my mom that one. Let me keep playing. See, now you got tennis elbow now you know, injured in a non-contact sport. That'll happen. Kevin Seifert coming in with his $5 a month. That is very much appreciated. And then we also I'll thank the folks over on Patreon, but that is the grumpy old Ben's Patriots, which we're going to have to split back into a grumpy old Benz. And if we need a unrelenting, maybe we need to do that.

But Yeah, let's yeah, let's do that. Let's not advertise patriot at all. And here I think they get back from Grumpy. And so this would be the last time we will be thanking Brian Schneck, Stephen McConnell, Dennis Woods and Manny Cheviot, who just came out of it after the the the we did the surprise grumpy old Ben. So I'm guessing he actually came in for grumpy old Ben's but it's all good. Probably that will now just be the grumpy old Ben's patriot.

And if you want to donate to unrelenting donate to unrelenting, it's appreciated. And then, you know, the inevitable hot mess breakup of grumpy old Ben's version two is, probably about seven months away. So keep that in mind, guys. We want to get to at least episode 200 because that's. Going to be a big one. It looks like you really didn't. You want to build up, man. You get to those numbers, you look at no agenda. And I mean, granted, that's a whole different league.

I mean, we're like in single literally. That divorced couple which just. Be asking. Massive things to each other and talk about how evil the other person is and how bad that relationship is and how they're just purely screwing up. Everybody, all their friends, lives around them by not letting them be doing a live show on no agenda. And then, oh, you. You get back together, everything's all good. Hey, it's bringing the energy that people want. I don't know.

Like I said, it's everybody's, like, love the chemistry. I mean, nobody's like, hey, love the chemistry with you and Gene. I love the chemistry with you and Larry. They're like, we love the show. But it's with Ben Rose. The chemistry word pops up more than else. And I guess it's definitely the chemistry that that powers the fireworks that happen when the breakup happens. Right. Which I still don't understand, but, you know, who am I? I mean, I don't know which part of that in that I don't.

Understand how like a disagreement about something so simplistic. And it's like, I don't have to agree with everything, but it's like. This is very simple, the end of your. Show, right? And you refuse to take the show off the air. We're on the. That's the that's the disagreement, plain and simple. You're like, Yeah, I'm going to keep doing this. You left. I'm going to keep doing this. I'm going to have a different co-host doing it. Different than taking it off and stopping it.

So there's two different stages, and it's the stopping it stage that I didn't understand because it's. Literally told you change the fucking name I've been. No, no telling you that except. For that before that even happened. The whole stopping of the show is what I don't understand the rest of it I get because once that like a good Amber heard Johnny Depp break. Yeah, exactly. Once the break up happens, then everybody's a dick because that's the way it works. But it was before, like.

So we disagreed on what happened with Harry Hamster and why. Why not? Why not have a disagreement? It's fine to have a disagreement. I'm sure every relationship has disagreements. And then you work and just. Yeah, have the argument and then you move on. And go against your oh, it's on the air. You certainly can we do it all the time now. That's different. No, you can't.

You can't take something that they're serious about and then make a big joke out of it and push back, because that's exactly the end result. As somebody says, Well, fuck you, I'm not going to do this anymore. That's what happened. It's like, no. And it's only legitimate. I understand completely. What in his personality didn't like about this particular thing in your personality, because you just think everything is a big joke.

That's probably true. Yeah, it. Is. Yeah, that's what I've noticed now. I'm fine with it is I'm just not serious about anything we do because. We're having fun. Yeah. And then it's, it's an interesting way to spend the morning recording. So everyone else would you be doing it?

Obviously there's no. Let's say let's, say that there was some kind of a an actual disagreement about, I don't know, like well, I want to use all the money coming in to buy ads on then it's much bigger podcast though by making a big donation jump and you're like, I want that. I want to use that money to pay. No, I want to use that money to pay for all the software that we're not using because we decided to go a different direction. Right. And you're like, Well, no, let's use it for this.

So that would be what I would as a serious disagreement, not a joking thing. It's that kind of thing that makes people stop working together, I guess. And I think that's what you guys ran into is it's just you were serious, you were joking, and clearly he'd had enough of this bullshit and said, Well, I'm out of here. And you said, Okay, I'll just replace you. And that didn't exactly make him happy either.

I mean, look, I came on as a guest on your show before, but then when it was like, Oh, I'll be out in next week, and then the week after, it was like, Yes, I do. I would love. To hear him say, Well, I would love to be on because I honestly doing a pod like a solo podcast, like surging used to be or like your thoughts, random thoughts exactly which. I used to listen to. It's pure, you know, you should listen every. We don't have time. Every Wednesday.

Like I don't have a job again. I'll start listening, I promise. Okay, that's fair. But then you can donate. I'd rather you have a job. Don't listen, but donate. I see that. And yeah, so. And I. I get tired of just doing it all, but yeah, it's not interesting to me. I enjoy conversation way more than I enjoy just talking. I would have again. And and so, you know. Yeah. If, if you're inviting me to come on every week. Yeah. If I can come out every week. Sure.

But I also probably starting with the second week we did it so you probably should change name because you know you're making them feel bad. And you want them to like a nice sushi lunch or your buddy bought them and I. My buddy but yeah, both of us. It's a very nice sushi lunch that is absolutely true. Has nothing at all to do with you. It was like, yes. Yeah. But it had nothing to do with you either because your buddy babe, couldn't it just be a nice exit strategy.

To have my buddy pay for lunch? You had to be like a what do you call it? When you leave a job, they give you a seven of the. Lunch is I have nothing against memory. It was that was the point in your life. That's not what you've told me all along. I'm perfectly fine with him until he took my show off the air. Oh, yeah. Like that is just him lashing out at you through something that punished me. I will hurt. Every. Which is you love with exactly. Which is. That's just bullshit.

I mean, I just think, like, I'm happy to have mine as a guest. I'm happy to have mine as a co-host. But if he thought about it a little more now that he's doing a show with you again, that was just bullshit because he's just fucking with my show, that point. So you all just get along? Yeah. So that made me realize no Agenda Network is not the place we need to be. We are everywhere. YouTube is the place we need to be. And that worked out really well. I know. Well, I mean, I think we do.

There are more I look, there are people that are doing the YouTube thing without the full video and all that. So there's still. Definitely people doing that. We will figure that out. I think my my bottom line for this is that there's a high a much higher chance probability whatever of success on YouTube with nonpolluting content than political content. Oh, there's no doubt there's political on YouTube. They freak out and I go, oh, my God. He said, Ukraine.

Got to cut them unless unless you got a machine like, uh, you know, the pool or Ben with space that is like a full production machine to generate this content. I think it's really hard. You have a little, tiny, small but political show on YouTube that anybody at all of these. Yeah, it's just never to get promoted. It's not gonna get pushed up in their algorithms. So what does get pushed up are short, cute, funny things like that. We are so neither short nor cute.

Norfolk Yeah. It's even if we were we're still like cats. That's true. That's that's the important part of this. The important thing. So consequently, I think it's going to be less important to do on YouTube. I'm happy doing this show as purely a podcast format and you know, getting advice on tennis elbow is certainly a good thing by having a live audience daily listed. Yeah, exactly. And that's a good thing. It could very easily be uploaded as well.

Just with these solid background, now that I've realized how easy it is to generate transcripts and then do the cheaters, which I haven't started doing the chapters here yet. But hmm. I've just stopped doing them for login speak. It's too much. Work. The chapters. Yeah you know and I'm yet. To see. Any reason except for comic strip blogger bitching about shows that don't have chapters. I've never heard from any other person that said they really wanted them when they weren't there.

I've never heard from anybody saying, Oh wow, glad you added these. These are so helpful. I'm not. I mean, they nice to have I just mean from a balance between what how long it takes to make check because here's what I found for when I was doing them religiously on 13 speak where every topic I covered had its own chapter, its own little picture on there popping up.

I would record about an hour, hour for the episode of Just Me Speaking, and then I would spend at least half an hour getting the chapters set up because I have to find all the breaks between topics, and then I would have to find pictures that related to that particular item. I would never do pictures. And well, that's the biggest part of the I think the biggest fro of the chapters is that the image on the screen changes as you change. But who's watching the screen when listening to a podcast?

I think most people are I don't. Think anybody is. People could vote on that one. Because I'd be curious. There's a lot of this stuff. I'm curious as far as how people would use them. Just like if now shows like this, they're very open and we're not going topic to topic. Yeah, we don't have topics. Here, chapters, but we have topics, but they interweave in back and forth. So the chat. That was planned right off topic. Yeah, right. There's nothing planned. But now here's the thing.

If you generate, which is easy to do now the transcript as a subtitle form, you can then go find that bit of the audio. The only thing I found helpful with chapters would be to go back and listen to another segment again, which having the transcript I think would make that 100 times easier to go exactly back to where you want to go. When Jean said unrelenting, whatever, then can find it. And to me it seems like the transcripts would actually be more helpful than the chapter than anything.

I think transcripts are helpful. Chapters are helpful, images are helpful. All this stuff is good. It's just that it takes time to do and, you know, obviously big shows like No Agenda that simply have a guy doing this for them. Well, it's crowdsourced. I think he has you know crowdsource helping thing it is that. Yeah I think it's crowdsourced but also he's getting a percentage of the South Korean which I when they got their thousand dollars worth of SATs he got like 50 bucks versus that.

Well yeah. That's for the different show that was the thousand came in for podcasting 2.0 not so well. Yeah he didn't. Yeah. Yeah but if it was there one gender then yeah. You would know your percentage here. Is it though. You know if you're doing work on the show to get a split to do anything, you know, I think that's fair. In order to know about that. You know, I think there's if you have somebody doing work on the show on a show by show basis. Never be percentage, though.

Do you think you should just get a flat fee no matter who? Yeah, I think so. Well, this is the problem with this is when shows are little and making no money, you want to do something lit because it's like. Hey, you can have a penny off of my $0.02. Yeah. Dred Scott offered to do stuff for all of my shows, and I'm like, It's probably not going to be worth it to you. It he didn't really seem to care. And I'm like, You don't understand. I mean, as far as the strip.

And never making any money. Dude, right? If it's like that, I would feel bad if you're doing work and we're not paying you anything. Yeah. And then you get so. So then say you do start getting, you know, a million bucks coming in and this Guy is now making, you know, 50,000 a year though, dude. Yeah. Exactly. You know, then you get mad the other way, like, well, now, now you get too much.

And that's exactly what happened that I've seen this over and over for decades, this this experience of somebody starting off by simply, oh, I'm happy to do a favor. And then you're like, Well you know, I mean, I'd love. To be like. I can't really pay you, but I'll give you something. Right? Stock in the company. Yeah, yeah. And then and then the numbers do go to where now this is he's doing like 5 hours of work a week and making 50 grand a year. It's about that, right? Right.

We can hire somebody for cheaper to do this. It's all the trade off. It is all trade offs. It's always a trade off. So I think the the way to do it is to just not do it until you can afford to do it. And it's not me. That's the now that we have transcripts, the chapters are way easier for me because then I just scan through, you know, you can very easily skip five or 10 minutes at a time.

And what are you using for transcript that was using the script until it stopped working, which, by the way, I have not installed or tested the script yet to see if. I want you to. Reconfigure configuration. If that bug still persists or not. It would be interesting to know I'm using Adobe Audition then to record, but I'm using Adobe Premiere to do the transcripts, which all you do is you run the trail. Yeah. And you can drag multiple WAV files in as well.

So you can actually have it very easily. You don't even come full circle. This is how stupid Adobe is. Yes. They have. What were? We're using inscriptions on their video app, but not their audio app. Because they don't understand that it's useful in the audio app. Yet they haven't caught up with the fact that podcasts are doing transcripts and all of this stuff.

So they figure, Oh, if you're doing audio, you don't need that, but oh, you can just it's part of the same program, which is hilarious because you just have to install something else to drag the way file into that. It'll give you everything you want. Yeah. And it does a really good job. That's not maybe I'll install that one these days. I'm paying for it anyway. Yeah. It just works and it's quick and it's easy. It's part of the workflow now.

So really here's the reality since I have to drag the wave file of the show into premiere to generate the transcripts. Yeah, why not just add the logo, render it as a video, then uploaded to YouTube? It's you're already got. That's literally it right there. Yeah. And you have the transcripts right in YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. It's a. Beautiful thing. And this wait till YouTube comes out with a hey, upload an audio final and we'll make a video for you based on the words and the audio will pull images.

Wouldn't that be awesome? They'll do it. I mean, this is a very easy shit do with any kind of AI system. The AI will be figuring it out. Yeah. And they own Google which owns really everything. They Yeah. They have access, a lot of image images. Information, video clips and all kinds of crap. So it'd be a no brainer for them based on the content and contacts. That's why you need the API of the transcript to be able to assemble a video that then it goes along with it in my lucky Ukrainian flag.

Right. Well, support Ukraine. That would be. All about the videos at home all the time. Video. Yeah. Now, before we wrap up, I want to know, have you been watching the show on Hulu? The Bear. No. Because I thought it was a really good show. The ending was questionable in talking about anything in the show. We know the ending would, you know, talking about that would be multiple spoiler problems.

But I was really surprised that at the end we talked about it on Planet Rage with Larry even brought a little clip. But at the end of No Agenda yesterday, Adam was like, Hey, John, even watching the bear on Hulu, I'm like, Oh, wow. So this thing's getting around. And he highly recommended it to Dvorak, so I'm going to highly recommend it to you. What's it about? It is have you ever watched Shameless on on Showtime? No, it doesn't appeal to me.

The the one kid that was in Shameless as the older brother plays the lead in this as guy who is. A. Ultimate chef. I mean they overplayed it, but that's what they do in fiction. But, you know, he was allegedly like the top chef in the world, like 22 years old, kind of a thing. And his brother, who was running a fledgling Chicago Italian beef stand, kills himself. Okay. So he comes back to Chicago to try to run this Italian beef joint. And that's what this is about.

It's only 4 hours like in total because it's half hour episodes in only eight episodes. But it is very gritty, very, you know, based in the kitchen. They almost never leave kitchen. So it's a. Oh, there there's some good. In the the cooking scenes are really just just short of food porn because. I think the absolute best food porn TV show that's ever been done is Hannibal. You're a sick man. Not at all. But I will say I was after watching this, I was. I really needed Italian beef.

I got to go. Yeah, I really want one. Because you watched enough of this, but. You should get one. I did. I went the other day. With the way how they go. That was great. I love a good Italian beef.

I mean, you can have them every day or you die and by you know, but the really good show I mean it was very much kitchen confidential kind of the way they interact in the kitchen, which is sad because they interviewed the guy that played the lead and he's like, I talked to a bunch of people in kitchens and he's like, This is the way it was like come to, you know, maybe five or ten years ago. Now it's I a kinder, gentler kitchen because of all the MeToo and all this other stuff. That's it, then.

But this is this is the real stuff. That's, that was very interesting because I have somebody that sort of works for me or is levels below me anyway. But who was on one of those kitchen shows. Oh, like one of the go and cook. On their food panel where they call. Well Gordon Ramsay's got a bunch of them. Yeah. Yeah. One of these are they have contestants and they like yeah, yeah. Yeah. She was on Top Chef. Nice. Yeah. Let's go belly up to the stuff on Top Chef is just utterly crazy stuff.

Kind of like the Lego masters, but with food. So I mean, it's. I always wanted to do with was that so, god damn it, now. Well, Japanese one, the Japanese one, the Kitchen Samurai or whatever. What was it called. It was we have. Thinking of it. I ever watch the contestants. It was originally a Japanese film and you have a secret ingredient and then you have to make our fold in our using the secret ingredient. Yeah. Kitchen stadium. What was the show called? I don't know. I never watched it.

I watched a lot of Top Chef, but I never watched like catch it. The I know what you did world but I've never. We had a there was an American version of that. And I think the Iron Chef. The Iron Chef. That's the one. Thank you. Bully seed. Yeah, that's very good. Uh, yes. Appreciate the the brain function there. Uh, I always thought it'd be really fun to go on that show. Do you consider yourself a foodie, a good cook, that kind of a thing? Yeah, I consider myself a chef. Well, see, there you go.

Then you'll go. Okay. Then you'll love this show. Yeah, I really like the show. The chef and I like the movie The Chef. And I kind of figure, I. I kind of consider myself a chef. So there. Was the he was the chef that was at the one with the guy from Swingers that wasn't Jon. Favreau. But you see, if Jon Favreau is listening to this podcast, that was like the biggest insult. Yes. But if you're listening. But hey, at least he remembered the swingers, which was something that Jon actually wrote.

Yeah. Oh, that was fairness. I mean, really, going back to my best. Movie ever. Made. Yes, absolutely. One of the most fun. But it was so realistic. It was so true to life. Like I literally remembered, you know, bits of my youth of being right in that movie. Well, that is what we do on this podcast, the busting of balls. It is the back and forth. It is just the witty banter. That was definitely the Vince Vaughn character. Oh, of course. Except you were just shorter.

So you were you were about as short as Favreau. So I'm Favreau, but the tall one, and you could be Vince Vaughn, but you're the short one. You know, it all works out. Than the number of times that I'd be eating breakfast at a in. A diner. Diner with a of stamps on my arms was very true to what. I would like. French toast from the Renaissance. Mm hmm. Babies. Our little boys. All grown up. All grown up. Exactly. And their Vegas scene was great, too. Like, I did that same exact thing with.

A buddy of mine years and years and years ago where we wanted to have the old Vegas experience for some reason. Not really sure why we decided that was something we. Wanted, because the new Vegas is just too glossy and glitzy and glamorous. Yeah. You wanted to be real. Until your Vegas experience totally sucks. Yeah. Real is not good. No, no. We don't go to Binion's, man. Binion's is not the place to go. Vegas is not selling reality anymore. No, no. You want to go?

You want to. You want to be the high roller for one day. Well, then you shouldn't go to Vegas at all. This is. True. Go to Reno or someplace where your your level of spending would be considered high roller. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't mean you're you're right. You probably don't even gamble. I mean, you're like all of us. Very little, right? For the average person, it's like, yeah, yeah, it's. No, no, no. You know, I was a professional poker player for a while. What?

What? Haven't you been a professional at. That many things. You get to jump through a lot of jobs. It seems like you might be in witness protection or something. What? I don't. What? What's that? I never heard of that. Never heard of them. What KGB witness protection sound like. I don't even know what that means. Great podcast. There is no such thing as KGB. How many times I have to tell you that? Well, not. Anymore. Yeah, but yeah. What? You have Hulu, I'm sure. So watch the bear.

And we I don't have Hulu, but who is easy. All you have to do is give them a phony email address. So can watch it for two weeks. Well, obviously has a two, but he can put you on as one of his children. Adam probably pays for it, but I just. I'm more inclined to do the two week trial. Oh, well, that makes sense. Or It's allegedly on all the usual sites where you could download it. Well, we don't do that. You are a model baby. I certainly don't do it.

Yeah, that's just money, baby. Yeah. Did you go obviously a fan two of. The I it's always I've always been a fan of Heather what the hell's your name. Good old Heather. What's her. Name. Oh, Heather is frickin awesome. Yeah. Heather Graham. Yeah. If Heather Graham. Is just a cute redhead. Holy shit. This girl next door kind of look to porn star. Porn star, huh? So you watch Scrubs then, because she was in that.

I think I've seen most things she's been she's just never really broke out any kind of real stardom. It was always sort of the supporting weird check and things. We had when she was in Swingers. Everybody thought she was going to be like next Andrea Bullock or something. Exactly. Exactly. Because it was like, oh, holy shit. Yeah. You know, he's in it for literally only the last 10 minutes. But it it worth it. But it made it. Absolutely.

And that that sort of a great portrayal in that movie of the male mind set of being preoccupied for like 80% of the movie with this girl he left back in Jersey who is like his one true love and is now dating somebody and he's just, you know, just miserable and not doing not participating in life because of that. And then literally in a matter of minutes, after dancing with a girl once he is walking on the air. Yeah, the switches flipped. It completely.

And this is the male mindset, this is how it literally works, is that will be sucked into a dark black hole because of something that you are unsuccessful. When an unsuccessful means, you know, having a chick leave you and then. That's usually what you're trying to get to happen. So for a lot of guys, that's a success. You finally got it. That is absolutely true. And then if you're paying him, that's definitely what you're trying to get through.

And if you're you're like divorce, that's definitely where you're trying to get there. Like, I paid for 2 hours. 2 hours is up. Would you please leave now? Yeah. You Don't need to hang out there. Unless you're good at making omelets. Please just go. Iman. Yeah, really? Is that. Is that your after sex food? I'm not. Well, no, but I mean, if it's in the morning after 10 hours, I mean, you want a little breakfast. You want. I'm staying till the morning. I mean, if you go for 10 hours, I mean.

Yeah, then you have maybe Belgian waffles. Little, little. You're going for 10 hours, you start early. You don't want them there in the morning. No, that's okay. So you will be starting at 6 p.m.. That's an interesting time for a call girl called Jean, 6 a.m. I'd like to up, I don't know. 10 hours. I don't think any call girl works for 10 hours. Hey, not if you don't keep them satisfied. Doing well that satisfied. Meaning paying him money every hour. Yeah.

I mean, don't you get freebies too? I mean, aren't you. No, no. You don't get extra work. Well. No such thing as freebies. What are you always? Are you the pimp? Are you the pimp? Is that what you're getting? Yeah, that would maybe you do get freebies. That would be a better that would be a better gig, that's for sure. It's better than podcaster. I think anything's better than podcasters. A gig if we're talking gigs. Yeah, you're not wrong.

It's like the lowest common denominator form of existence. This podcast. We are here to entertain and enlighten and maybe sometimes educate. And when it comes to a GM, get free medical advice. The I'll take it yeah. Yeah. Get to get that elbow ice for the next episode. You got to be in shape. I don't need to get it iced. I just need to get it working. Put a little ice on them, put a little heat on and put a little ice and heat on at the same time and see which one wins.

It was one of my favorite, although he's not dead, so he's probably still using the line. One of my favorite Steven right lines was. Literally every comedian we talk about dies the way I think about him. If Steven Wright dies this week, I'm going to be so bummed. Uh huh. The the bit of I bought a humidifier in a dehumidifier. I put him in there. We're going to let. Them fight it out. Yeah. Let's bring it. He used to be funny. I remember him well. It was just. He was just like Gallagher.

Well, they're too much. One trick ponies, I think. Yeah. And that the whole delivery is kind of what gets warned. Even if you come up with new material, the delivery kind of gets worn out a little bit. Like how many watermelons? And you hit it with a hammer a lot. If you have enough sledgehammers, I guess. Have you ever gone through one of those? I have not. I did in Vegas one year. The only thing we caught in Vegas was Penn and Teller, which was a good show. Yeah. Yeah.

Across the highway on the. On the Rio. Yeah, the Rio. The hotel. The cheap hotel. Penn brought me up on stage. That was back when I had to. Oh nice. Yeah. Why if you. The it was the bit where Teller gets into the big trash bags type thing. Oh and you hold the bag as the thing happens. So it was. Like, okay, like, yeah. Was cool. You were a participant. Yeah, I, I actually ended up back in the dressing room with the teller. Hey, now. Yeah, that's what he said.

You know, Penn and I look at a lot of like. Yeah, Teller and I look nothing like you just see. That's a little different. But I mean, I, I've posted the picture to know what your social and this is back when Penn and I were both little little heavy. A little heavier. But really even the height, the same facial, very close with the little goatee. I mean, it may be a long lost relative. I don't know the. Long pinky nail with nail polish on that same exact thing. I get it right.

I'm going to add that to the bit. I could then I can pretend to be. Penn. Yeah, we. Kind of have a similar voice too, I guess when it comes down to it. I his is a little more Massachusetts thing. Yeah, well, actually, I've. Never been more Chicago. Yeah, but otherwise we've been separated near birth. I don't know. Yeah, maybe, but yeah. So I was wearing clothes that were identical to the backstage crew at Penn and Teller. It's this how you get backstage at places. And it just go, incidentally.

And I. And you weren't working as a waiter? Well, no, I was there for a performance. Friend of mine was going to do a bit with Penn and Teller and for their show. What's it called? The Fool Me or something? Fool. Yeah, yeah. Brian Brushwood was out there. Yeah, yeah, that's the one. So that was that. That was Brian. So and so I went and asked somebody where the restrooms were and they told me to go down the hallway and to the left.

I went down the hallway and then as I'm going down the hallway, I'm realizing this is actually the backstage hallway and it's the crew bathroom. And apparently because I looked like a backstage crew and asking for where's the bathroom, I was told where the crew bathroom was, not where the audience bathroom was. To say there was a lack of security at the Penn and Teller show. We BET. And on my way back, I'm looking through the doors and I kind of saw something that looked interesting.

So I kind of took my head through the door. And then as I turn my head, I see Teller talking to somebody who then looks at me wondering why I just stuck my head into his dressing room. I said, Yeah. I said, Break a leg. And then I left. Then you ran. I in that run, I don't need to run. Well, no, not when you have. Never run with my tennis elbow and my Achilles issues that I had back then. Okay. But that surging. But it was a yeah.

Never run I just shoot back but there was a it's always interesting hearing teller talk because it feels associated him with having vocal cords right. And he does talk and documentaries and stuff like that. I mean, it's not like he's. A mute now. Well, and the one that really kind of invented their characters. Yes. He's a really smart guy. Yeah, well, he's a really good magician. He's a good magician. And he knows Latin, which is a very important quality for a magician to have.

Just look at the Harry Potter. I took two years of Latin. I don't remember much though Mickey for menta means bring me an alcoholic beverage. That's all I remember. And I can conjugate to ask you, Mr. Assistant. That's conjugating in Latin now. Now, can you do pronouns in Latin for what your problems are? No, I don't remember. I just do not use pronouns in Latin right. Latin. Like if you saying this is my pronoun, they think they just kill you.

I think that's that's probably a good way to go was. Probably the better way. Now I do not doubt that. So I had a little quote recently. I thought it was great. That was my own quote. So you said it and you're like, wow, that was sort. Of I really like that. They wrote it down because it was great. And and the quote was, uh, it was, it was after I was told not to assume somebody's pronouns, I said, I'm not assuming your pronouns. I'm just observing your sex, right?

Yes. Yeah. It's a true statement. You can look right at somebody and be like this, you know, hey, you may be wrong, dude. Looks like a lady, right? Maybe you're wrong sometimes. But this is the way the world always works. I mean, it seems way more offensive to me if you think you have to ask somebody. And most people, when you're dealing with somebody that you don't know their name, you know, if you were to come up to me and say, hey, what time is it? I might be like, Hey, you know, faces you.

Now, if you're going to say, you know, maybe you don't use anything at all, but like, hey, can I ask you a question? It's like, oh yes, sir or Yes, ma'am, or, you know, but usually you don't go, Hey, can I ask you a question? You're like, Well, wait, what? What pronoun do you use? So I know if I should say yes, sir, or yes, ma'am. Or I mean, nobody does that. You just take it based upon the way they look and okay, maybe one half of 1% of the population you're like, oh, yes, sir, ma'am.

Yes, ma'am. What is service, ma'am? Sir, we're not really sure. I don't think most people work on that level. The level the lack of fairness. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think you just go with if they look like a guy, you say, sir, if it looks like a lady you said ma'am. Oh, you. Just don't see sir. Ma'am. True. But I mean, it's polite, you know, so polite. Right? What are you guys doing here? Everybody answers to, hey, you. Hey, youth use youth, youths, youth. Your passion shows up. It's it.

What's a youth? Yeah. How many. Youth? Uh huh. Does I mean. Yeah, I don't understand. That was a really good legal movie, though. Wow. My Cousin Vinny. Yeah, the movie. It's another. Another one of sir jeans pics I had here. You have you. Have the My Cousin. Vinny the Jew bear. That was pretty good, too. The bear was I don't know, the Jew bear. That's different. Bear. That was from, uh, uh, the bastards movie in World War Two are Inglourious Basterds. Oh, right. Yeah. The Jew Bear character.

Yeah. If you want to complain about their pronouns, just let them know. Them them. Themselves. As good. If he could just not speak clearly at all, nobody will ever accuse you of mispronouncing them. Like would you call them? Yeah. Common. Yeah. We're figuring out problems for the world's issues. Renny mean you? How are you? Why? Using you and me? What do you mean by you people? Yeah. Never say that. That offend people. Everybody when you're.

Lady, you people. Yeah. What do you you people are always. What do you mean by you people. Well you trying to distinguish it from, you know, you not people, right? Just try to say you're. Just the people portion of the. You. You're obviously people. Mm hmm. Whatever work or maybe not. So obviously, because you have to say it. Maybe. This is a portion of the podcast that nobody understands why the fuck we even bother doing because we're literally like, This is the Seinfeld of Five Death.

Well, even Seinfeld made billions. But but the premise is exactly the same. This is a podcast about nothing. Anonymous in the troll room says anybody else having trouble hearing them? What do you mean, hearing us? What do you mean? Ever been off the air this whole time? What do you mean, them? I don't know. The little green LED bars are going up and down when we speak. Right. So you forgot to push the record. But wait. We're supposed to record these shows? This is the pre-show.

Okay, now we said the show. We do. We start the show now. Do we start it now? I think we now started. Welcome to episode number 34 of unrelenting. Good to be here. What's new. It's a beautiful day in Iraq. It's actually a little warm enough then. It is warm here as well. It's not a warm week, but I've got two air, so I'm prepared. It's really kind of a crazy week. We get a lot of talk about this episode. Yeah. And where do we even start? The good question. I know maybe Ukraine.

Tried to get does the is be riled up again. I see it's me doesn't listen to this come on. CSP loves listening to our. I'm I can't imagine somebody listening to a show made by people that banned them. I've never banned CSB. Yes, but you banned me. I applaud. See all your why are you doing this show with me, that prank podcast? Well, there's a difference between listening and doing one in there. This is true. This is very true. This is the post-show pre-show.

Yeah, I don't hear Ukraine won back Snake Island and drove the Russians away. This is the way it's going to be narrated now is every side is going to claim they had victory. Hmm. Yes. Yes. It's a hard fought, you know, three months worth of battle for Snake Island. But Ukraine prevailed. Anonymous says a refresh fix that I guess that can happen with with some of the Web based. Yes. And then by refresh, he means we finally started the show after doing the pre-show. Right. Or hit F5.

Or one of the other. It actually refreshed. Exactly. We did have another donation. Just come in. So this will be for the next show. Oh, nice. Sir Nubbin. I love certain of it coming in with 26 five. He was the one that. In what format is this donation? This is PayPal. Oh, nice. But sir, nothing almost broke the the SATs on the rock and roll pre-show the other day because he. Really something. Like six 700,000 in that was a beautiful thing. That's a big donation that.

SATs which are especially a week or two ago. Point. Yeah yeah yeah they were worth a lot back then that like now they're going down. So what else is going on in the Ukraine? We have a commitment from Germany now to, uh, to fight Russia in as much of Ukraine as they're able to get into. Let's also not forget now that there's two new countries coming into. NAITO that's, right? Yeah. Finland. Finland wants to be invaded and Sweden apparently wants the invaded as well.

Because, you know, Russia's going to invade each and every one of these if. Well, that's that's the theory. That's the theory. I mean, honestly, if you didn't want to get invaded, there's no point in doing neither. This is true. Yeah. And it was because Ukraine was applying from end of membership that Russian invaded. Everybody knows that. It is all a scam. It is all a farce. But good news is Turkey gets to have all their military toys now. Yeah, but they're changing their name, aren't they?

Not in Turkey now. They're like tofurky. They are tofurkey. That is literally their new name now tofurky. Which would be more calories. And they changed it because their name of the country sounded too much like an animal that lives in North America. And I don't understand the problem. So, I mean, we just whatever their new name is, let's name another animal that. Looks like tofurky is literally an animal already. I mean, it's like a fake turkey. Yeah, well, that's kind of what turkey is now.

What kind of areas is a pop up and said he hasn't been able to boost since he said all those boos. I mean that is odd. What do you because he said he was trying to bring you. Out of money, sir. You're right. That could be. No, I don't think that's it. Have you crashed the economy of yourself it? Could have crashed whatever system of satoshis hmm.

I guess it all depends what you're using and what their the connections are because the the oddity of lightning which takes a little while to it took a while for me to grasp which is they are portions of a bitcoin but they're being traded not on the Bitcoin. Block which is how they're much faster than the blockchain because if you were to send them a donation via blockchain and you don't have to do it for Bitcoin, you could do a small sliver of Bitcoin through blockchain.

That donation would probably take at least 10 minutes and possibly half an hour and probably off somewhere between $0.50 and ten bucks for a $10 donation. Yeah, which is bad for the idea. That these bitcoin is not made for small increment, although these days maybe it would only be five bucks. Right. Or three bucks because the. But I remember when I first started sending money via bitcoin, it was like, holy shit, this is much higher percentage than PayPal. Right?

It's like the transaction fees are horrible on bitcoin, but they don't scale. So if you do a transaction which is $100,000, it's cheaper, it's pretty cheap, it's the same ten bucks. So all the does it. Only donate the podcast if you can afford to donate 10,000, 100,000 at a time. Yeah, that's exactly. Well, hence the use of SATs instead of Bitcoin. Right. Which is why I now understand why people have to fund their nodes.

Because basically what this is doing is moving around parts of bitcoin without the blockchain within a bunch of people who are basically staking their boxes with lightning. So you're moving stuff around. It's kind of like being in a casino. And if you want to make. Like casino. If you want to make it into real money though, then you have to cash out. You have to cash the lightning and convert it into Bitcoin and then you after

you can convert it into cash from there. But that's another part of it. There are some places that let you like order things directly with the stats, but for the most part, if you want actual money, money, then your local currency money, then you do have to go through the Bitcoin conversion first and. The Albee add on which this is probably great real show content. But I digress the for the lightning wallet.

So this is a lightning wall and I was surprised because just like Satoshis stream, you know they're giving you the service so we could do the booster grabs and take money. Out of all the podcast, Albee will give you a lightning address. And I don't I can't find anything. And nobody's been able to answer this for me. What percentage they take is there's always a percentage. Where you can send yourself money and see what it's. True and see what it is.

50. Because that is a really easy way to go to because you can go get yourself a lightning wallet address and it just exists that in your browser. But with that the having the lightning wallet as a browser extension allows websites to have something in there too that will notice you have the extension or that you know, they can want a little thing like, Hey, support us through lightning and you press a button and right in your browser you can send them satoshis.

So it's a beautiful thing really that you can help support more than just podcasts. With this, they're starting to be rolled out more and more for people. You could use it on, you know, Twitter, like. Like coaches were definitely needed, at least for a while. I don't know if they're still going to be needed if Bitcoin drops than 10,000. Yes, an anonymous. We're going to we're going to go in the opposite direction. But I was just going to say anonymous says that's the most insecure

way to store crypto. Yeah, I would agree. I would absolutely agree. Which is why there's like, you. Know, you're better off keeping it under your pillow. With lightning, though. I mean, I know you're speaking. You're going to have the lightning is not exactly the most secure ecosystem. Wait, that's how most of my money is stored in lightning? Yeah. Under the mattress? No, in lightning. Because I figured there was, you know, more liquid. It could be.

But I mean, you have your own box, so that's a little safer then doing it in. I mean, not really. I have my own virtual box. So everybody can steal their jeans. Lightning. You just have to hack this box. Well, yeah, but it's not physically located. I mean, I did have my own physical box, but that crashed. And you say you're a dude named Ben? I had I had a Bitcoin node going, though. Raspberry Pi, baby. You can do a full Bitcoin node. Than mine wasn't Raspberry Pi one but yeah.

So system died so I had to rebuild it and of course lost that. But this is it would real Satoshi start coming in and that's become my system now which is to take them from satoshis that stream because I cannot. Spend. Them from there. Right. So trust them. Well. I mean, I trust them, but I if anything goes system says if they disappear, you know, it's not that you don't trust them, but if they disappear, then anything that's sitting there is is lost. So and they will let you set it up.

So any time you have over 100 or something in there that will automatically send it out, which I've never done, I just I should because it's a pain in the ass to go through and do a lightning invoice every time. But I take it out and move it to now Alby, which I could use if I want to boost your grandmother's shows. And if it gets to be too much, which is a good thing, I can I send it in that to bitcoin to my Bitcoin wallet. There you go.

But you still need that middle step because it's oh she's got stream won't let me go directly to a bitcoin wallet you need send the lightning invoice and then but once I have the lightning myself you can now you can send that to a bitcoin address. Yeah If only Bitcoin was invented in a way that had the lightning portion built in. But it wasn't. Yeah, because the lightning portion is there because bitcoin is so damn inefficient.

And a lot of the bitcoin people really consider lightning a scam because it's pretending to be on the Bitcoin network. But it's not. It's not just people keeping individual, you know, wallet balances and hoping that things are liquid somewhere. Like at some point these things exist. Yeah. Yeah. Like if you look at the, the money in my bitcoin thing here for my report the lightning wallet thingy, that thing scale, the thing in the deal, the what. You might call.

It, it looks like it did not open the channels so that didn't work. Okay, you know what? All the all the dollar amounts are theoretical. Until I close the channel, it's not until you get rid of the channel that. You actually have that money going back into your actual wallet. Because right now, it's just it's a bunch of channels that a positive balance on the channel on my order. And I will say now this is I did a satoshi's dream report for the last seven days.

So for the last week, for all my shows, believe it or not, unrelenting ing the most satoshis of any of those shows. So by this metric, unrelenting is my most popular show with fan support. I know that. That grumpy old Benz, believe it or not. Yeah. Then the rock and roll preshow then poor old random thoughts. Yeah. Well then planet rage then poor old random thoughts. Mm hmm. Well, I mean, this is kind of the most important show you do in the way, so. Makes sense.

Well, it is, because it's with Eugene. It is. And it's a show that touches on the important topic. Which is what we're watching, what we're eating mostly. Yeah, what we're eating, what kind of buttons on our phones were pressing. You know, and as much as we complain about that, every time we start making fun of that, people will inevitably comment. Either I no agenda social or in the troll.

We're like, no, we like to show, we like the topics, we like what you're doing, which is just talking about anything. And I think Grumpy Old Ben's is going back into more of a strictly text kind or a tech kind of. Yeah, I noticed. That area which I liked, Planet Rage with Larry's kind of an open ended thing, but we tried to have a theme where I like this is this is very much like random thoughts without, without the voices in my head, just being Elmo.

So we've added Gene and then replaced Elmo with Gene. Yeah. And I would totally agree with you because surgeon speaks now of Ben's been a regular has gotten a lot more political and so this show the sort of non-tech nonpolitical show that I do. And it's the most fun is that. The food sometimes is pretty good when I'm doing the show. What are you cooking? That's when you need the video portion. Like Gene from. Boeing. Yeah, well, I think so. We'll see what ends up happening.

But the way things are going, I think I'm going to be unemployed probably in about a month. Oh, this gig is coming to an end. Yeah, the gigs coming, which I know people are like, Oh my God, no, that's the normal part of life. I generally work for only one or two clients a year, and I usually have. And they can only they get only last week they can only handle you. Can only handle me for a while. Exactly. That's exactly right.

And so when that happens, I'm going to take a month or two off and I will have a lot more time to do things like graphing and video games and, you know, streaming. I'll get back to streaming on a more regular basis. I have a lot of ideas for both video game and content streaming. I definitely want to get back into it. Now that the PC has been rebuilt, that's completely ready for that. And I've actually got a second PC that's on standby and I have the Mac that I have installed.

Yeah. That needs to get set up. And having pieces on standby means you are now a truly professional streamer. Yeah, I know. Exactly right. You got to have a backup. The backup to the backup. You have to have a backup to the backup. And then finally and they're both water cooled, so that's good. That's like. Well, that's all in. Texas. You kind of need it. I know. Exactly. Yeah. Twice yesterday my western digital nous and I know Western digital son. Mm hmm. I have a bad rep.

Yeah, sometimes deserved, sometimes not. Yeah. I mean, other stuff overall has been solid for me, but it gave me the error of that. The fan wasn't spinning, but the temperatures looked okay. So I'm like, Well, let me just reboot it. And I rebooted it and it gave me the same error again. So I went downstairs and I'm like, I put my hand behind, but I've got literally like six boxes next to each other, so it's hard to tell. Yeah, which. One's blowing or what's not.

So I took a one of those little ties like you would have around, like bread, just a very thin. And I put that in the back of one of the holes and it's like I'm like, okay, see, the fans are working. Yeah, I usually use my finger for that. But yeah. Well I couldn't, you can't fit it through the little holes, so I just needed to add something that wasn't going to like, smash the smash the blade the minute, make contact with it.

Yeah. But it's like, yeah, yeah, I have that happen on the motherboard where the fan died and then I had another one that died on The View as well. But the good thing is, back in the old days we did actually blow out the CPU or the chipset on the motherboard or something if it wasn't cooled properly. Now they have sensors and arrows shot them. Yeah. Throttling the fan dies. They will turn themselves off to prevent destruction. Yeah. The first slow themselves down horribly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. And for a lot of people, that's the first sign. Like something's gone horribly wrong. Yeah. If your PC is running unusually slow, check your temperatures. Yeah. Yeah. Did you go as. As Gina's bringing back the Babe Harum to the Ponderosa. I don't know. Do you have a babe hair? I'm going on. That was that was that why you need time off from work? You got to bring the babe hair back. Is this like the Playboy mansion going on there now?

I'm coming to Austin. Then I want to check this out. Yeah, well, we've been inviting you for a while here, so. Yeah, come on down. I mean, I need a private plane, though, because I hate flying commercial. If anybody out there has a private plane that could go. Any of our listeners with a private plane, please let their know and just offer. That when you can come along to that. I mean. You can hang out with me. I could use a flight to Cyprus and a private plane right now as well.

I mean, if anyone's like offering, if. Anybody's offering, I don't know. Yeah. But if they if. A lot of our listeners are flying back and forth, they respond to us, though. Now, if somebody actually gets in touch with you and has that offer for you, you'll be. So I literally I like right now I've got a good I've got some business in Cyprus and I've got a guy in what the hell's the island off the coast of Greece. There are those. No starts with us now. You think you have less of us, right?

Always thinking of less. Yes. No. Yeah, Lesbos as well. No, it's such a s. Uh, Greek island. No, that's not enough. No, it's like, uh, it's, uh what? What? There's. They got the white buildings with a blue. Sambuca. That's drink. Anyway, people know what I'm talking about. So I got. I got a guy that's there that's like, every day sending me photos and inviting me to come out there. You're like, I'm ready. I yeah. It's that they've got some other stuff.

I think they're I get the friend's birthday, big, big birthday bash. They're going to be nice tomorrow. I'm busy. Man, man I'm a busy man. Komodo dragon wants to know if we're either of us are familiar with the Def Con conference. I mean, I'm familiar with what they do there. Yeah. I've been to Def Con not for many years though. I was. Get your phone hacked when you were there. Just in 2007 through nine, I think I went through three years. I used to go to smooth con a lot as well. And in 2000.

You are a busy man. See? You want to meet up with Sir Jim? Just wait. There's going to be a Chicago steak meet up once we have more than one old. Yes, yes, more than one oligarch. And we're going to do a meet up. I'm happy to fly out and just like meet up out there, although it's got to be someplace better than the Ponderosa that Darren suggests. Yeah, I don't want the Ponderosa Gibson's baby. I love Gibson's in Oak Brook. You don't have to go downtown. Same good food.

You know, going downtown is actually I'd prefer to do. Well, only if you have full body armor. Yeah, which I do, you know. Did they close the Houston's in downtown. I know. Yeah. That used to be one of my favorite places to bring out in Chicago. The Heat was just called Houston's. Yeah, it's just called Houston's. Uh, Houston's in Chicago. I used to go to olives all the time in Chicago. Um, what else was I? Oh, there was a didn't go there very often, but a few times I went to the church.

You never go to the church? No, it's a dance club. No, probably not for old people like you, though. I mean, back in the day, it was like the limelight. And do. You. Let's see, Houston's. Yeah, it looks like they still exist. Oh, that's good. They have three reviews on Yelp. That doesn't lead me to believe they still exist. Yelpers report this location it has close there you. Have you go to bed. That would explain um. There's been a lot of restaurants that have closed here as well in Austin.

A lot of them surprisingly survived through years of inactivity. I don't know, Sam, how somebody unless you're laundering money, how do you survive two years of inactivity? I don't know. Santorini beauty Steve. Venturini is correct. That is why I love Bing. Bing Bing, bing. Is it booty? See, that seems like a completely different name and connotation. So I apologize. You know. Let's see. Boy, Steve should be on the show because she knows. Way and we're. Looking for that. Yes.

Before we say we're going to replace Darren with you, I think. It's a good idea. Let's work. For. Yeah, let's work. All you gotta do is produce. You don't have to be on the show. Which is like I don't know. I would say. The if you ever watched. The. Daily tech news show with Tom Merritt and Sara Lane. Leo Laporte.

Yeah. His Leo Laporte castoffs but Roger Chang from Leo's old you know group people on tech he's the one that produces the show and like the only time you see him is at the beginning and he's just like, I'm Roger Cheng I producing it and so that he's obviously the just like pushing the button just like you really need somebody you fucking asshole can't do this yourself. Now that talent, you can't expect talent to do production work.

See I believe in a world where talent and production are all done by the same people. Yeah, and that's the world where that just means there's a lack of talent. That just means it's an ultimate. Because we can spend the place, we can do everything, we can get it on the stream, we can talk to. If we have talent on the spot that. We can do that instead of. Just production. Yeah, we would have an audience is donating hundreds of dollars not an audience of donating hundreds of that.

Hundreds of millions of dollars with just me. I get that, sir. But no, we have a producer and that's you. What we don't have is talent. Oh, I guess we should look for some talent. That's a good thing, right? There were. This isn't the show is like the Post show. Now this is the show. What are you talking about? This is the show. And we did the pre show. We did the pre show with the post-show. Do we do two shows? How many shows is this mean? This is the good one.

This is the one I've been saving all my material for. The first one was the pre show. I thought we did 2 hours of pre show to warm up. To be fair, the main recordist running so this could all help to. Be fair I would use that as a follow up and I can fucking get. No, the other part was good that something mastered earlier that way better. No, I'm the producer. I'm going the original one. Yeah. The what were you were like Jim never runs or something like that.

Oh I kind of think we have. Don't tell them. Sounds better. Anyway. Well that's well. On that note I think we're going to wrap things up. Well, if this is going to be included, then yes, let's actually wrap the wrap. This is people are going to very confused here.

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