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Unrefined Podcast .com

Brandon Spain & Lindsy Waters www.unrefinedpodcast.com
What’s beyond the veil? The nature of this world we live in is unrefined. Yes, we live in this multifaceted world of the SEEN and the UNSEEN. In each episode we go beyond the veil in our own personal unrefined way. Our podcast recipe includes: the supernatural, the strange and unexplained from a biblical perspective, PLUS deep dives into the Word AND a wee bit of the conspiratorial for good measure.
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Episodes

E169 Weird Is Biblical… and We’ve Got More Proof

This conversation gets Holy Spirit wild! We toss the religious rule book aside and step straight into the deep end of supernatural encounters—exploring altered states of consciousness in the Bible, Old Testament prophets who acted in ways that would shock most church folks today, and how these experiences can’t be judged by outward appearance alone with returning guest Dr. Merrill Greene, author of Drunk in the Spirit. Merrill unpacks both the scholarship and the strangeness, tying ecstatic expe...

Aug 18, 202549 min

E168 When Science Meets the Spirit?

Ever wondered if remote viewing is just government psy-op weirdness, or WHAT!? In this episode, we welcome back Matthew McGuire—biblical scholar turned parapsychology researcher—to help us sort through the controversy. We explore remote viewing from its scientific roots in the Rhine Research Center and military intelligence units, to its surprising parallels with Christian spiritual gifts like prophecy and words of knowledge. From biblical examples to Watchman Nee’s take on the latent power of t...

Aug 11, 20251 hr 1 min

E167 Rotten Truths: Whispers from the Process

#4 of Series: Something Deeper This Way Comes- In this jam-packed episode, Brandon and Lindsy welcome Dana of Rotting Jewels for a wild ride through some of the darkest corners of cult history, counterculture, and covert influence. From the shadowy origins of the Process Church to links with the Manson family, Sons of Sam, Scientology, and MKUltra, Dana pulls back the curtain on networks most folks don’t even know exist. They discuss infiltration into churches, animal rights fronts, and even Hol...

Aug 04, 20251 hr 28 min

E166 When Darkness Meets Mercy: A Killer’s Redemption

#3 of Series: Something Deeper This Way Comes- Ever wondered what redemption looks like for a serial killer? This episode’s going to challenge everything you think you know about good, evil, and the reach of God’s mercy. Brandon, Lindsy, and co-host Jen Parks unravel the story of David Berkowitz—yes, the Son of Sam—and his journey from demonic chaos to radical transformation. They explore the trauma, lies, and spiritual strongholds that shaped his life, and how Jesus met him in a prison cell. Fr...

Jul 28, 20251 hr 13 min

E165 Mojave Mysteries: Moth to the Flame

Ever wonder what’s really going on in the desert when tens of thousands gather to build a temporary city and burn a giant effigy? In this offbeat episode of Mojave Mysteries , we step just outside the Mojave and into the heart of the Black Rock Desert to explore Burning Man—its roots, rituals, and strange esoteric undercurrents. Brandon and Lindsy are joined by BT Wallace to tackle the symbolism of fire, liminality, mystery schools, countercultures, and even the Nephilim agenda. From sympathetic...

Jul 21, 202556 min

E163 Something Deeper This Way Comes: Coast to Cult -Part 2

Things get dark in this part two of the Sons of Sam series. Brandon and Lindsy crack open the ritualistic layers surrounding the Berkowitz case and Maury Terry’s explosive claims. From the eerie murder of Arlis Perry to the strange deaths of the Carr brothers, the duo follows a sinister trail that points to organized cult activity—possibly reaching into military bases, MKUltra, and even serial killer networks. With threads leading to the Process Church, Manson, Zodiac, and the CIA, this isn’t ju...

Jul 14, 20251 hr 5 min

E162 Something Deeper This Way Comes: Coast to Cult -Part 1

You think you know the Son of Sam story—lone gunman, demon dog, case closed. But what if the real story is way more tangled, way more sinister, and still unfolding? In this kickoff to a multi-part series, Brandon and Lindsy crack open Maury Terry’s The Ultimate Evil , exploring occult networks, multiple shooters, and a satanic underground that spans the country. From Yonkers to Minot to LA, this episode sets the stage for a wild conspiracy ride. Is Berkowitz just a fall guy? Who were the Carr br...

Jul 07, 202557 min

E161 Made to Heal: Why Your Body Can Beat the System

What if the toxins in your body aren't just making you sick… but making you easier to control? In this mind-bending episode, Dr. Robin Braun returns to blow our minds and strengthen our spirits. From smart dust and nanotech to EMFs, vaccines, and mind control frequencies, this conversation is packed with fringe-y facts and soul-saving solutions. But don’t worry—it’s not all doom and gloom. Dr. Robin shares practical tools, detox hacks, and a spiritual framework for staying aligned, healthy, and ...

Jun 30, 20251 hr 28 min

E160 Mighty Men: Origins

You ever hear someone say, “I make comic books—but I can’t draw”? That’s just the start of this wild ride. In this episode, we talk with Adam Farris —graphic novelist, spiritual archaeologist, and biblical giant sleuth. He dives into the gritty truths behind David’s mighty men, hidden genetics in the Bible, lion-faced warriors, and how ancient hybrid bloodlines might still shape our world today. From watercolor prophecy to Job 38’s cosmic riddles and even a trumpet blast from heaven—this one’s g...

Jun 23, 20251 hr 14 min

E159 Let's Greek Out!

Ever wondered what was going on between Malachi and Matthew? In this episode, we crack open the hidden history of the Maccabees with bestselling author and filmmaker Brian Godawa. From cosmic mountains to divine conspiracies, Brian walks us through the supernatural war behind the war—the Watchers, the Seleucids, the Hasmoneans, and yes, even Heracles. This isn’t just history—it’s theology, mythology, and gritty rebellion rolled into one epic story. If you've ever questioned why the Apocrypha mat...

Jun 16, 20251 hr 10 min

E158 Much Ado About Bacon

Ever wondered if the father of modern science was also the architect of secret societies and a hidden empire? In this mind-bending episode, we welcome first-time guest Robert Frederick, host of The Hidden Life is Best podcast. We unravel the mysterious connections between Sir Francis Bacon, Shakespeare, Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism, and Gnosticism—asking how much influence one man might still have over modern Western thought. From Templar secrets and occult symbolism to the foundations of the Ame...

Jun 09, 20251 hr 11 min

E157 What If Faith Isn’t What You Think It Is?

Faith, neuroscience, and quantum mechanics… oh my! In this episode, we bring back pastor, author, and teacher Clint Byars to dive deep into what it really means to live a faith-filled, supernatural life. From the genesis of his belief to the dangers of manipulating spiritual laws, Clint unpacks concepts like quantum faith, generosity, healing, and the true nature of God’s covenant. We get nerdy about wave functions, call out witchcrafty theology, and laugh along the way. This one is rich with re...

Jun 02, 20251 hr 7 min

E156 Houston, We Have An Answer!

An episode guaranteed to stop you in your tracks. Brandon and Lindsy sit down with Katie Asher, whose son Houston—a non-speaking autistic young man—opened a supernatural window into identity, frequency, faith, and healing. From vaccine injury to the mystery of the Hill, from church hurt to spiritual gifts most believers can’t even fathom, this is not just a testimony—it’s a paradigm shift. If you’ve ever questioned the nature of communication, healing, or what it means to believe God in the hard...

May 26, 20251 hr 52 min

E155 Too Torah-fied To Function

What happens when good intentions toward biblical faithfulness lead to legalistic bondage? In this episode, we’re unpacking MORE THAN JUST the growing trend of Torah-keeping, feast day observance, and dietary codes among modern believers. Our returning guest, Dr. R.L. Solberg, takes us deep into his new book The Law, The Christ, The Promise —a verse-by-verse apologetic study of Galatians that lays out the dangers of blending Old Covenant rituals with New Covenant freedom. From practical theology...

May 19, 20251 hr 9 min

E154 Come Out, Come Out, Wherever You Are

This episode goes deep into the wild and often misunderstood world of deliverance, the religious spirit, and spiritual formation. Brandon and Lindsy sit down with Michael Miller—pastor, teacher, and co-host of Remnant Radio—to tackle everything from charismatic excesses and cessationism to biblical boundaries and the power of intention. From demons hiding in plain sight to generational spirits, exorcism rituals, and the fine line between hype and holiness, this one pulls no punches. Plus, Michae...

May 12, 20251 hr 3 min

E153 "Conjuring" Toasters

What happens when you mix Ghostbusters nostalgia, biblical theology, and a love-hate relationship with horror films? You get a conversation like this one. Our guest brings his unique blend of storytelling and scriptural insight to the paranormal, exploring ghosts, demons, exorcism, and the Warrens with nuance and wit. We dig into Hollywood's influence on spiritual perception, challenge traditional views on the supernatural, and even question what really haunted the infamous Conjuring house. Get ...

May 05, 202550 min

E151 Waking Up Was Never The Goal

What if the chaos in conspiracy communities was by design? In this thought-provoking conversation, we’re joined by a guest who's no stranger to the shadowy overlaps of fringe beliefs, government psyops, and the supernatural. We crack open the “Cass Sunstein Effect” and explore how psychological manipulation, social media echo chambers, and even the church contribute to a distorted search for truth. From demons to disinformation, from Crowley to cryptids, nothing’s off the table in this deep-dive...

Apr 28, 202556 min

E150 YOU are the PRODUCT now!

Let’s just say this isn’t your average history recap. In the final episode of our Operation Paperclip series, we connect the dots between Nazi scientists, modern surveillance, moral decay, and the spiritual consequences of trading ethics for technological progress. From Neuralink to data manipulation, we peel back the shiny lab coat to expose the sinister roots—and lasting legacy—of Paperclip. The crew gets raw about the church’s prophetic role, fifth-generation warfare, and whether we’re buildi...

Apr 21, 202542 min

E149 How to Spiritually Cleanse (No Sage Needed)

Ever wondered if your home could be spiritually “off”? In this eye-opening episode, Doug Overmyer returns to take us deep into his book Peace in Your House . We get into everything from spiritual atmospheres and demonic influence to identity, repentance, and practical steps to cleansing your home and land. Doug breaks down the difference between praying a prayer and living in authority, talks angels (and why they’re not your spiritual butlers), and dives into the role of worship and fasting in s...

Apr 14, 20251 hr 8 min

E148 Are You Free If You Can't Question Everything?

This episode is a wild ride through biblical conspiracies, secret edits to Scripture, and why Christians should be the most suspicious people in the room. Doug Van Dorn returns to unpack the supernatural and historical layers behind everything from the Masoretic text to media manipulation—and Brandon even drops insight on Bigfoot as an evangelistic tool. This one’s got theology, mystery, and a whole lot of mind-blowing moments. It's wild, it's weighty, and it's woven with truth. You’ll laugh, yo...

Apr 07, 20251 hr 11 min

E147 When Manipulation Hurts: The Perils of Christian Witchcraft

In this episode, we tackle the misunderstood world of Christian witchcraft —but not in the way you think. Dr. Robin Braun is back and shares wild but sobering stories from her work with survivors of spiritual abuse, cult infiltration in churches, and how manipulation often masquerades as ministry. We also explore spiritual gifts, quantum healing, resonance, and the fine line between authentic supernatural experiences and counterfeit. It's eye-opening, challenging, and full of hope. https://www.i...

Mar 31, 20251 hr 18 min

E146 Fringe, Church Hurt, and Marriage: What Really Matters?

You know it’s going to be a wild ride when Vicki Joy Anderson is in the house! This episode is a no-holds-barred deep dive into spiritual warfare, the challenges of isolation in fringe Christian circles, and the struggle of navigating biblical truth in a world full of traditions and misconceptions. We talk about deconstruction without destruction , the pitfalls of making secondary issues into deal-breakers, and the lost art of constructive correction among believers. Oh, and somehow we even mana...

Mar 24, 20251 hr 15 min

E145 Raw Unrefined Bible Study: Colossians 4

Alright folks, this is it—the grand finale of our Colossians Bible study! We've been unpacking this powerful letter, and in this episode, we wrap it all up with Chapter 4. Turns out, Colossae wasn’t too different from our world today—full of mixed-up beliefs and buffet-style spirituality. We dive into the significance of Paul’s closing words, the importance of staying connected in the faith, and the need to balance both an alert mind and a thankful heart. Oh, and we also nerd out over some bibli...

Mar 20, 202533 min

E144 Houston, We Have a N∆ℤ!

Get ready, folks, because we're diving deep into the shadowy world of Operation Paperclip—again! This time, it's Lindsy's turn to take the reins as we uncover the dark reality of N∆ℤ! war criminals and scientists who weren’t just brought over for their rocketry skills but were also deeply entangled in intelligence, chemical warfare, and Cold War espionage. From Klaus Barbie's twisted post-war career to the murky alliances forged under the guise of anti-communism, this episode exposes how far the...

Mar 17, 202542 min

E143 Pillars of the Past: Mapping Ancient Mysteries

In this episode, we journey deep into the mysteries of ancient Peru with Raul from the Pillars of the Past. Raul shares his passion for uncovering forgotten archaeological sites, fueled by a lifetime of personal connections to Peru and a knack for finding what others have overlooked. We explore the hidden history of the Andes, the challenges of mainstream archaeology, and tantalizing clues suggesting advanced civilizations far older than traditionally believed. From geoglyphs to ancient trade ne...

Mar 10, 202550 min

E142 The Cold Wars Dirty Little Secret : Secret Files and Sinister Science

We’re diving back into the rabbit hole with the second installment of our Operation Paperclip deep dive. This week, we’re peeling back the layers of history’s biggest "science fair gone wrong," exposing how Nazi scientists were recruited by the U.S. government for rocket science, biological warfare, and psychological research. Was it all for the greater good, or just a convenient way to whitewash some seriously shady pasts? We tackle the ethics, the cover-ups, and the creepy connections between ...

Mar 03, 202544 min

E141 Raw Unrefined Bible Study: Colossians 3

Get ready for another deep dive into Colossians! In this episode, we tackle chapter 3 , breaking down what it truly means to put off the old self and put on the new. From unpacking spiritual disciplines to discussing how to let the Word of Christ dwell richly in our hearts, we get real about transformation, grace, and living out our faith. Plus, Brandon wonders if the Scythians had Nephilim connections (because, of course, he does), Lindsy talks about the power of worship lyrics, and BT gives a ...

Feb 26, 202547 min

E140 Six Days, Six Billion Years, or Just One Really Long Monday

Alright folks, buckle up, because this episode is diving headfirst into the deep and often heated debate about the age of the earth. Is it young? Is it old? Is there a middle ground? To help us navigate these theological and scientific waters, we brought back the brilliant Carey Griffel of Genesis Marks the Spot . We break down different perspectives—young earth, old earth, theistic evolution—and tackle how these views shape our understanding of Genesis, inspiration, and even God’s character. An...

Feb 24, 20251 hr 5 min

E139 Threshold and Carry On

Brandon, Lindsy, BT and Jennifer Parks delve into the multifaceted significance of thresholds in various cultural contexts, exploring their connections to covenants, hospitality, and spiritual protection. They discuss how thresholds have historically been associated with blood sacrifices and the establishment of covenants, drawing parallels to modern practices and beliefs. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding these ancient concepts in today's world, emphasizing the depth a...

Feb 20, 20251 hr 29 min

E138 I Adjure You: Ancient Wisdom for Modern Battles

Get ready for an episode that dives into the depths of ancient spiritual warfare! We welcome back Dr. Merrill Greene, a scholar whose groundbreaking research explores the protective rituals of the Qumran community. From apotropaic magic (yep, we learned a new word) to exorcisms, we discuss how ancient Jewish practices influenced early Christianity and what that means for us today. We also tackle the controversial world of deliverance ministries, spiritual disciplines, and even the role of music ...

Feb 17, 20251 hr 7 min
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