Jeremy Farrar and the WHO with Johnny Vedmore

You're listening to Unlimited Hangout. I'm your host Whitney Webb. Last month, the World Health Organization quietly announced that it would soon appoint a new chief scientist in 2023, a man named Jeremy Farrar as part of its press release on Farrar's imminent appointment the who stated that Ferrara will be focused on quote, bringing together the best brains in science and in novation from around the world to develop and deliver high quality health services to the people who need

the most no matter who they are and where they live. However, Farrar's history in his recent role as head of the Wellcome Trust suggests that Farrar's appointment to a top post at the WHO bodes poorly for global health and is instead suggestive of who ambitions to become a supranational organization that promotes the interests of big pharma in increasingly big tech

to the detriment of public health. The announcement of Farrar's appointment comes at an interesting time for the who, as the organization is currently involved in secret negotiations to amend the International Health Regulations. Those amendments If approved by who member states would give the WHO unprecedented power to declare a public health emergency and also to dictate to member states what measures they must implement as

a result of that emergency. It would also establish a framework to normalize and entrench vaccine, passports and other biosecurity surveillance practices, while also exempting these regulations from respecting human rights and the fundamental freedoms of the populations of who member

states. With such unprecedented power. A man like Jeremy Farrar, who has consistently supported on scientific biosecurity measures throughout the COVID crisis would be able to dictate to most of the world what public health policies must be implemented and when adding to these issues is the recent pandemic simulation hosted by the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, which previously hosted controversial simulations, including 2000 ones dark winter, and 2019 Event 201.

This new simulation called catastrophic contagion focused largely on Africa and on The Foos. role in shaping global and regional pandemic responses. It of course included considerable involvement from Bill Gates, whose foundation wields a significant and troubling amount of influence over World Health Organization policy. Joining me today to discuss this and more

as JohnnyVedmore.com and funkymonkey.com. He has previously written at length about Jeremy Farrar and the Wellcome Trust and has been a consistent critic of their health policies, particularly as they pertain to the COVID-19 response. So welcome back to Unlimited Hangout. How's it going, Johnny? Yeah, it's good. I just got out of the unlimited hangout sweatshops after writing stories, and I don't have to

close them now. And now I'm here, here for a good discussion about someone different Jeremy Farrar. All right. Well, without further ado, let's get in to Jeremy Farrar. So the press release announcing Farrar's appointment was issued on December 13 of last month, probably at a time when a lot of people are getting ready for Christmas. I know I didn't see it because it happened right around my daughter's birthday. So I wasn't paying much attention. So took a

independent media a while to pick up on this. But it's very significant. And I'm really glad you're here today, John, because out of independent media, I don't really know of anyone who's written more about Ferrara or the Wellcome Trust, the new. So let's see here and how this press release describes for our, they say for var is a clinic clinician scientist who before joining the Wellcome Trust in 2013 spent 17 years as director of the Clinical Research Unit at the hospital for tropical

diseases in Vietnam. They oddly omit the fact that I believe his directorship there was funded by welcome and affiliated with the University of Oxford, for whatever reason, and also interesting is that they say that under Dr. Farrar the Wellcome Trust has taken an increasingly global outlook, focusing on funding discovery research projects to transform the understanding of life, health and well being and focusing on three urgent challenges those being

infectious disease, mental health, and the effects of climate change on health. And I think some of this what they're referring to here is a reference to welcome leap, which I wrote about in 2021. And I'm sure we can discuss later sell Oh, Johnny, what exactly is the WHO leaving out about Jeremy Farrar? Why does he matter? And what is suspect to you about his

background? If anything, what I found really interesting about Jeremy Farrar as I was studying him, and I mean, every bit, anybody who knows my work knows I tend to go back in history, I tend to go back through time and try and find the root to everybody's like, where they become famous, where they become professional, where they become influential, where the power lies and who who gave them that those opportunities and from very early on, Ferrara

was obviously noted as really important, and you're right dimension, welcome and Oxford combination because it was a 1994 program being run out of Oxford by welcome joint project that saw January for enter into becoming, we'll start off becoming the head of the Wellcome Trust. And this was at a time when the Wellcome Trust was really a kind of new Lee

forged entity out of the welcome PLC. And welcome, as always been a private company and suddenly became this kind of unaccountable, not for profit, sort of look about it on the cover, but when you dig away underneath, it seemed like a good way. There was a guy behind a very important man called Richard Sykes who was the head of Glaxo and he was involved in the merger of Glaxo SmithKline, Beecham, the Welcome, welcome

PLC, and they put the put them all together. And out of it came the Wellcome Trust is this nonprofit entity GlaxoSmithKline. And Beech comes as a separate company. And so you had these, this, this new forming of the Wellcome brand. And it's really interesting, because if you go back beforehand, just beforehand, they're welcome, are very involved in the HIV medication, a lot of other things easy too. So maybe we should talk about that a little bit.

Because I think that's pretty relevant to why the Wellcome Trust is not the medical research, nonprofit, you know, that's objective and blah, blah, blah. I mean, it's often treated in very glowing terms. But as you as you noted, it's an outgrowth of what was previously welcome PLC. And before that, I believe was Burroughs welcome. And they were the entity, the company that produced AZT for which was an early HIV treatment, which essentially killed people.

Yeah, they seem to be more reckless with advertising. Azt over in America, fruit burrows, welcome, which was their American arm, they seemed to be more reckless. And in Britain, they were much more careful. But it was Roy Anderson, and Level One of well, he was Wellcome Trust direct in the early 90s. Before he joined the Wellcome Trust, he was, he was very, all

of the guys who revolve around for very shady figures. They've got lots of different attachments to different groups and different societies that are really, I think, important to unraveling this massive puzzle. And it was a very small group at the time of the early 90s. That helped form this new, you know, because the AZT had been such bad publicity. And, of course, it was going to be loads of court cases, fought against welcome if it stayed in its form, that it was in at that

time. And so I think that's why it was like, rich sites come in to dismantle it, and change what what what each of these companies were doing. He was brought in to do that. Richard Sykes is a very interesting man who I'll talk about later, but I would, I would describe him as probably the man who recruited and mentored people like Roy Anderson, Farrar, Neil Ferguson and the famous people who are the people who will be bought

the thing, mainly on the British side. Now, a lot of Americans when they started a lot of American press, and of course, I'm writing for unlimited Hangout, and watching a lot of the time what the American media are saying, and a lot of the independent American media wants to concentrate on Fauci and other people who are involved in the American side of the process, but when you actually see like the BuzzFeed emails that got released, you discover that Jeremy Farrar was above the

American the you know, Jeremy Farrar is above Have Fauci in the chain of command. And this is really important. They don't people don't understand why. And it's because Britain is used as this tool. It's like a little special secret of tool the Americans have on the side while the Americans are producing lots of policies that will dystopian in nature, and will trap you into medical sort of organizations and institutions that will trap you into your nation into doing things a

certain way. Well, a lot of the actual controls don't follow the implementation. A lot of that comes from Britain. So Richard Sykes, the man who kind of inspired these guys were the guy was the guy who oversaw the entire rollout of the vaccines in the UK, when the COVID vaccines come out. Jeremy Farrar, I don't mean to interrupt you. But I think it might be helpful

to get into a lot of the stuff that's more recent. In a little bit, I think it's probably good first, before we get too far away from it, to discuss Ferraris background, specifically, you know, the type of family he was born into, and what his history was before he sort of teamed up with this Wellcome Trust, and it's more, you know, it's broader network. Yeah. What can you tell me about earlier Farrar and some of his experience, for example, at this Vietnam hospital and things, you

know, a little bit before he joined the Wellcome Trust. Yeah, well, that was that was him already kind of joining the Wellcome Trust, because in 1994, this program is being run out of Oxford. And that's a he's just graduating from Oxford there. He's just done his master's at Oxford, and Edward C. Holmes, who's Of course, the man who's down for a Nobel Prize alongside the Chinese scientists for doing the first transcription for for right now the first transcription of Cypress Cove to

genetic sequence. He was running this program out of Oxford welcome, Edward C. Holmes was running the program and asked Jeremy Farrar to be part of the project along came Jeremy for and he instantly says, you know, he was by by just I went across to Ho Chi Minh to just do a little bit of research and I ended up staying there 18 years. So so he flew that time. From 1994 onwards, Jeremy Farrar has been writing many papers doing a

lot of research. And if you actually read a lot of that research, it relies on the infrastructure of information that we have at the moment. By that I mean, PCR tests, we understand a little bit about how cycle thresholds work and the higher the fire cycle thresholds on a PCR test, the more the more likely you are to get a positive or a false positive result. Well, a lot of gemmy for hours work seems to tests, test drugs out on high cycle thresholds. A lot of it

relies on the narratives that were created around COVID. And he's traveled all the way around all know when he was he was born into an really interesting family. His father had been caught as a one of the many soldiers in France during World War Two and had been sent to a camp a prisoner of war camp. And he had remained in a prisoner of war camp the entire time. And he had met his mother, you met Jeremy for his mother. When he

had got back from being released. After marching for days and days, they finally got picked up by the British sent back, they got sent to Scotland. And he was driven down to the Ministry of Defence to be debriefed by his future wife, so he would meet his wife, who was the actual driver. I mean, a lot of women did a lot of those sorts of passes, worked in the factory, kept home fires burning, you know, all of that

sort of stuff. And that's where they met. And it is it's an interesting link that it comes as he goes into the Ministry of Defense to give information about his time in captivity, because after that, he becomes what Jeremy Farrar later calls, like equals his family itinerant in nature. So he says that they traveled around a lot. So they lived everywhere. Cyprus, they

lived in Libya. They lived far east. I mean, Farrar was born in Singapore, and he is the youngest of I think there was six children that Eric Farrar and his wife had, including Jeremy and there's there's a lot I mean, there's a you can go

even further back in history. I'm currently looking at certain people who may be members of his family who have identical lives to watch me for our house, but back in Victorian pounds, so I you know, There's the I believe that it's the family history that's really interest based family, his father, the traveling around, it seems very emblematic as someone who is at least working with the state with the British in some way. I

haven't been able to find full proof of that yet. But you can see by people like Jeremy Farrar, his direction has been one where he's been allowed into top schools. He's progressed in his career to levels that no one else can possibly have. And a lot of us when we do our research into these famous and big players is really, really important people will they all tend to have links, family links, that are really

important. And Jeremy Farrar, when he was recruited in 1984, he instantly went across to an area of the world where he could do tests and experiments that he wouldn't be able to necessarily do in the West. And that's another point that is often missed out a lot of the time, the drugs by people like welcome in the past, and many of the pharmaceutical companies sorry, many of these entities, they get tested on in poor on poor Asian

Africa. Yeah. And that's where you seen, that's where you You saw him spend a lot of his time and a lot of his papers are written around. And some of the early I mean, when you get on to the time when he's looking for avian flu, in the noughties. Right,

so let's let's, let's wait there. Wait for a second, because I wanted to sort of before you get into that, I just wanted to mention that not only do you have this avian flu thing that you just touched on, but as you've previously written about Farrar, you know, that he was essentially sent by Oxford, which is again, running the hospital that he's, you know, ostensibly a director app, at this period of time, they're sending him around the world and specifically study epidemics or

pandemics as they're happening in real time. Yeah, so can you go into some of that history, including the avian flu and some of the others? Well, there's some really interesting, I mean, a lot of the other people when you follow a lot of the other people too, they have this similar, they get picked up and they get given their place within this puzzle they get given the job and role.

So these people are selecting the highest candidates. Jeremy Farrar is obviously seen as a very successful candidate for the future. And what he does is study lots of lots of different really complicated illnesses, and potential vaccines. It was from 1996 until 2013. That Farrar is like recorded as being the director of what's called the Oxford University Clinical

Research Unit in Ho Chi Minh City. So it's Oxford partnering, partnering with the Wellcome Trust to set up a research facility in Ho Chi Minh City. And there's a lot of, you know, the actual by the time we get word gets around 2009, and bird flu. And you've got, I mentioned like an article that was published in a Rockefeller Rockefeller University Press

Journal of Experimental medicine in 2009. So obviously, there's nice people keeping an eye on what January for us doing, and it's a quote that is titled, Jeremy Farrar when disaster strikes and Ferrara talks about the finding of a bird of a bird flu of an avian flu. And it's a really interesting like narrative he sets because he sets this narrative with who people turned up the World Health Organization people and they tested this kid and and they said, No, they don't have

SARS, or even influenza. They've just got a cold and they left. But Jeremy Farrar is not happy with that he and professor here we go. And they they test out girl again, and they do some more explorations. And they discover this is a rare bird flu and they need to start some form of epidemic response or pandemic response to this form of influenza A, that they find in this guy, this belief, they give this backstory, the girl found a dead duck that she liked, and so she buried it in the garden, but

her brother decided to bury it somewhere else. And then she dug it up again and buried it somewhere else. And that's how she got it. And but it seemed like the experts came in did the tests and when you actually look at what the local government health boards say, around time, cuz this happens in somewhere in Asia And they said, No, we don't think there was anything there. But they convinced that really, even the who said there was nothing there. But suddenly Jeremy Farrar finds things, you

know, he's that type of person. And then he sets a narrative. And that narrative goes on and everybody gets behind it right. In that particular occasion, that narrative set by Farrar, but rejected by the who was parented extensively by the George W. Bush administration in the United States, which fearmonger excessively about it said millions were going to die.

And that the only if I recall, the, the countermeasure the medical countermeasure they invested in as a result of that fear mongering was Tamiflu, which is made by Gilead, a pharmaceutical company that was very much tied up with still at the time, the finances of Donald Rumsfeld, who before being Secretary of Defense, in the Bush administration had been the top executive at Gilead, and was still invested in that company.

And so he made like, an insane amount of money. And then of course, it turns out that all of that fear mongering, which I guess, in this instance seems to have started with Farrar ended up to be inaccurate, right. And you know, it's sort of

collapsed. And no one really remembers the bird flu scares 2004 2005 anymore, except for those of us that, you know, in the past three years, we've sort of been looking back at some of the history like I know I did when I was looking at the Dark Winter exercise, the anthrax and stuff, the bird flu was sort of a subsequent attempt at that by similar actors involved with a lot of this anthrax stuff that ended up going awry. And it's interesting to see Farrar there, but at that time, the who was

saying was disagreeing with him. But now Farrar is set to be the top guy, top scientist at the who, right. And it seems like sometime between 2004 2005 When that happened, and the COVID crisis Farrar's importance to the World Health Organization changed a lot. And again, this is all absent from the whose press release about Farrar doesn't mention that he had this

top role at the who, for COVID-19. Oddly enough, anyway, you can see you can see through Farrar's progression, though, and the way he wrote his papers that he was very politically minded in the world of international medical response, very politically minded. So, I mean, 2014 and 2000 I can which one, Niall Ferguson said that 200 million people would die and it was like in the 1000s of people would die actually died. But these guys

use this sort of fear mongering to get more work in a sense. So for our from 2009, he and that finding the girl with a duck and Abigail saying she was fine. He was sent around by Oxford to various locations. So he sent to look at the outbreak of MERS. Of course, he's central to the Ebola outbreak in 2014. And avian flu in 2014. To it's really interesting to see how he

became like the central figure being lifted up. I think some of these guys are just like that they are really important to the emblematic to the interviews are political and politically minded and suit the prevailing narrative of people, organizations like the who, and other health, big health organizations who want people like this, but is it a case that they encourage the training of people to be like this and then

promote the people to be like this? Or is it that F errara Is this person a day that has just come out of nowhere because I just don't believe that I really think there's a bigger history to Jeremy Farrar and he is important, as you say, the BuzzFeed emails, I mean, they were talking about him being responsible for everything from financing to advising to writing up and then they write the proximal origin of SARS cov.

He's the main guy organizing within 10 days, the production of a paper that falsified the root of a virus that has caused So much devastation on economies on people's lives has since been debunked. And this was arguing that it was a zoonotic origin. They even wrote a second paper though they even wrote a second paper where they were like, Oh, we were writing this one because everybody's debunked the other one. Oh, we come to the same

conclusions again. And what's what's completely amazing about that, is that if you actually hear what what was being said, at the time, like what what Jeremy Farrar was and others were doing during those periods. Now, let me let me just quote, I've opened up a, it's a line from January Ferraro's book that he published, or a part from January for his book that he published during the COVID pandemic. And he says, By the second week of January, I was beginning this January 2020, I

was beginning to realize the scale of what was happening. In those weeks, I became exhausted and scared. I felt as if I was living a different person's life. During that period, I would do things I've never done before acquire a burner phone, hello, clandestine meetings, keep difficult secrets. In the last week of January 2020, I saw email chatter from scientists in the US suggesting the virus looked almost engineered to

infect human cells. These were credible scientists proposing an incredible and terrifying possibility of either accidental leak from a laboratory or deliberate release. Now, we already we already know that this was a release, but this idea that that it was incredible, that oh, this is impossible. And then they created this. He seen this happened in January 2020. And then he created all of the hoo ha, he created all of the fake pandemic paper. He covered it

up. And then he admitted that he covered it up in that one part of his book. So I it seems like Jeremy Farrar thinks he's completely untouchable. Or he's completely and utterly dumb to a level that I can't even understand. You know, I can, I can understand how we can see how that the idea that clandestine methods, burner phones and all of this how that people can't won't say, what were you doing? Why were you

being so secretive? Why were you this is a public health mapper, but it seems like his email so heavily redacted. Specifically, his input relative to those of other people, just very bizarre. So thanks for that. One thing that I wanted to talk about briefly that you brought up is the Ebola situation, and 24, from 2014 to 2015, in West Africa. So I actually came across an article I found very interesting when I was writing about the developers

of the AstraZeneca vaccine. Again, they're based at Oxford University. And and I found a lot of very odd parallels of what happened with COVID-19 vaccine rollout in the attempt attempted vaccine rollout here in 2014. And of course, the experimental vaccine, in the case of Ebola was GlaxoSmithKline, which as you mentioned earlier, has a very

close relationship with the Wellcome Trust. And the Wellcome Trust is, I believe, very much responsible for leading a significant portion of the international response to this Ebola crisis during this period of time. And I just want to read some quotes here from this article that was published about the crisis while it was ongoing by The Guardian, the UK newspaper, and it just sounds so much like what we ended up hearing during the COVID crisis. I mean, it's almost analogous.

So anyway, it's it reads human trials of GlaxoSmithKline experimental vaccine, which Britain's largest pharmaceuticals company is developing with the US NIH, are to be fast tracked with funding from an international consortium. Vaccines normally take 10 years to develop, but GlaxoSmithKline said it hopes to finish the first phase of trials by the end of 2014. For reference, this was published in

August 2014. It will start making up to 10,000 doses of the vaccine at the same time as the initial clinical trials so that if they prove successful SOC can be made available immediately to the World Health Organization. And then goes on to say, if regulatory approvals are granted the UK research teams could start vaccinating healthy volunteers for mid September. So this is about a month after this article is published. And in the US, the NIH could start phase one trials which is tested on

humans. As soon as next week after receiving the green light from the FDA. The vaccine has already shown promising results blah, blah, blah, at 2.8 million pound grant from the Wellcome Trust will fund safety tests by a team led by Professor Adrian Hill, director of the Jenner Institute at the University of

Oxford with Adriene. Hill, being the man who produced along with a Sara Gilbert, who I think is was a student at one point, produced the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine, which of course, has been quite controversial taken off the market in numerous countries, and has been listed as the cause of death on several death certificates in the UK alone. And he previously spoke at the Galton Institute, his mentor was a member of the Eagleton Institute, which until 1989, was the British eugenics

society. And he's a hill is very much associated with the Wellcome Trust. What I find interesting about this is that when we had the COVID-19 vaccine rollout, this same narrative was rolled out again about speeding up the vaccines and not using the normal 10 year process, but it was framed like this had never happened before. But in fact, it had happened before

about seven, six years prior. And central in this was GlaxoSmithKline, and the Wellcome Trust, and the National Institutes of Health, several players who were obviously as we've just talked about, instrumental in the COVID response. You have any thoughts about that? Yeah, yeah, I mean, Patrick Vallance did a lot of the public face of a response in the UK. And he he was seen as kind of disconnected, because, you know, GlaxoSmithKline aren't

necessarily making a vaccine. So you don't need it. They're kind of impartial. They've made this big, pharmaceutical giant, that's really you know, would happily break the law overnight. This this impartial kind figure. But if you if you criticize him, especially on Twitter, and the like, you'll find yourself censored pretty quickly. I I've experienced that. The longest time I've had on Twitter is first saying something about Patrick parents. Now, there's a lot when you talk because you

started talking about Ebola. And there's a lot of crossover between these characters in the UK. And the people who were working on Ebola that were American. So like Pardis, Sabeti, who worked as she got links with Farrar with Edward Holmes, with other people like Debbie Sridhar and Andrew Rambo.

They're both from Edinburgh University, if I remember correctly, and they were all quite heavily involved in the Ebola crisis, I think that was a really important moment, when a lot of the the big world order of medicine was starting to be created to a level that they will be able to enact what happened during COVID-19, you know, they didn't have the power

before. From all of my research, what I saw is, every time they tried to spark some sort of pandemic here, or some sort of pandemic, there's some fear mongering that they would, they would hit a brick wall every time with people going, Yeah, whatever, whatever, then people were old enough to remember, bad bad vaccines of the past and, and all of the things of the past and they're not, they're not going to get involved in doing any of this. So they they've tried to push these

ideas of vaccines out, and it's never been successful. But now people are really been primed for this. It's almost like oh, we we've got to keep introducing these new things, all of the time that everybody's going to take to get people used to the idea of taking stuff. That's simply what it is. It's very much like and when I talked about pardons for Beth use a really interesting figure. She she was she studied both Harvard and Oxford, two places where I ended up a lot in my research

when looking into this new world. She's a Rhodes Scholar as well, you know, she's right up the cream of the crop. She's got links with Elon Musk, and Eric Lander. These people are the trans humanists. These people are the people who are trying to create the agenda. That means that you're going to have to keep having your body pumped full of something until that's

something is no longer medicine. It's something else and then something else and then you were prying to say Okay, the next one, we got this ill health so it a bit a bit of ill health or this fear of a virus. Now Ebola is perfect for for making people afraid. Because Ebola, the people's idea of Ebola is spread terribly. Everybody dies, you're bleeding out your eyes and all

your orifices. You know, they really scared and that's why I think they all came together around that and really started to work on plants of how to make other illnesses seem as scary as

Ebola. Because Ebola had that special it was like, Yeah, well, you had you had Anthony Fauci saying stuff like, well, we can't we haven't had a lot of access with a universal flu vaccine or any of the stuff because people aren't scared enough of the flu or have respiratory illnesses or seasonal respiratory illnesses, and basically implied that in order to ensure the success of those type of vaccination programs, which for the past two decades had been heavily funded

by, you know, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and related organizations. Essentially, what needed to happen is that people needed to become afraid of those diseases. In order to spur Vax vaccination, the only way you can make people afraid is is either you release a virus from the lab where you see people die. Okay, that's one

way you make people afraid, or you lie to them. You know, in this in this particular, when it comes down to viruses, either one of two ways, very rarely is one in 100 years, should we get something that's probably a pandemic, and that's based on maps that, well, we've had a load since humans have started getting the function research and started testing on their

people and started releasing viruses. So we've had loads of you know, we've had, and this is something that US military's done the Porton down in the UK has done. You know, it's been a very extensive but largely unseen series of operations over the past century or so, regarding bio weaponry, and its use on unsuspecting civilians, I mean, there's just an insane amount of examples of that happening, that a lot of people don't know very much

about. And it's probably not surprising that they don't at this point, considering, you know, how people have behaved over the past several years. So anyway, you mentioned a lot about how this seems to be leading to transhumanism and all of that. So maybe now's a good time to get into something that Jeremy Farrar created as apparently as a response to

COVID. So remember, he's, as I mentioned earlier, the World Health Organization, the Syrian saying that Jeremy Farrar is essentially one of their is the top guy for them, as it relates to the COVID 19 outbreak, really, as it relates to the science of the outbreak and the financing of the response. And what he does through welcome. As you know, he's director of the Wellcome Trust at this point, his part of the response at

Wellcome Trust is to create welcome leap. Welcome leap he ostensibly envisioned with it, create would launch quote, unconventional projects funded at scale. And basically, it was a at least the way I wrote about it, it was an obvious attempt to create a global version of DARPA. Why do I say it was DARPA

because he put former DARPA directors in charge of it. And the people specifically the lady who put in charge of it is Regina Dugan, who was director of DARPA and green lighted DARPA's funding of the mRNA injections that have since become more or less normalized over the COVID-19 crisis. And then, after she left to DARPA, she went to Google and subsequently to Facebook where she set up DARPA equivalent

DARPA style organizations for both of those companies. And then she's headhunted from Facebook to run welcome leap where she essentially is creating a DARPA equivalent for the Wellcome Trust. Yeah, yeah, I'm Jay Flatley as well, which is, I mean, he was

a gene sequencing guy. So pretty much, he's really just flatly is really important to this, because he's a head of alumina, and aluminum will make nearly every single machine nearly every single machine that runs PCR tests, that genomic sequences, PCR tests are massively important to if you wanted to falsify results, you need to be the person who keeps the results. That's it.

Sure, but in addition to that, Jay flatly has an obsession, essentially, with the genetic sequencing you from birth to death, and having genomic sequencing be mandatory throughout various stages of life. And what what most people in this world these people were talking about, and how they refer to it as precision medicine, which is really more

like Gene specific medicine. And yeah, he was, for example, example speaking at a World Economic Forum panel, which interestingly enough, he was speaking out alongside Matt Hancock, who was then UK health secretary, and he was promoting all the the ideas of normalizing the genomic sequencing of babies and children trying to he claims this was about shifting

healthcare system from reactive to preventative. But you know, if for people familiar with my work, there is this huge theme of the national security state, the military and the intelligence community's trying to basically create it, use the precrime approach approach, but apply it to medicine. So, you know, for people that are interested in my work on that you can look through some of my past interviews related to biosecurity and other things. But it's just very,

very wide. It's very telling that it was 2016, I think or 2017 were like flatly, his company said that they're going to embark on an aggressive five year plan, you know, that aggressive five year plan, this is where we're picking up speed now to bring genomic out of the research labs and into doctors offices. And I think this is this is one of the signs that we are changing. Once upon a time we use a company like Illumina to check all of these things, because they're too complicated

for a normal everyday doctor to do. But now what they want you to do, what they want doctors to be in eventually, is to have some form of like a CRISPR, technology, style technology where they can do they can permit a plate and play around with people's genetics safely in the doctor's office, or come for

a visit. Okay, let's play around with you. And your genetics. And this is a, this is a step in what we're seeing is a step towards a much more futuristic idea, and a really hard to grasp idea of what transhumanism looks like, right? Well, transhumanism, as I've noted a lot in my work is essentially the new eugenics. So what combines this idea of of putting machines in your body and sort of what we're gonna do, again, head of welcome leap refers to is fixing what she

calls the mismatch between human the human body and machines. And then you have this, the gene sequencing aspect of it, which is being framed as medicine through things like CRISPR and mRNA injections and DNA injections and all of this stuff. So we changed our name to the golden Institute to honor Francis Galton, the guy that invented eugenics. And so now

we're going to rebrand again, and call it a Delphi. But a Delphi is the name of the neighborhood where the British eugenics society used to meet so you know, I mean, it's like they're running out of things to like, secretly, still agree with the stuff. But you can see that this whole medical dictatorship that we've got over the world, it's all linked, it's all clubs, societies, groups. And, you know, these are clubs, which are very similar to things we would have seen in the old day, olden

days, you know, you're related to so and so. So you get in this club, and this club rules, everything. You know, we're seeing the the same patterns. And this is one of the things that I discover from going in history so much with my my work going through history, is that when I was talking about, you know, doctors will eventually have a CRISPR technology while the doctor's office won't change, it'll still be the same

old, boring looking doctor's office. But slowly, the technology will change, and it will be exponentially changing. Roughly less our technology goes, it kind of goes exponential, and goes up, and up and up. And at the same time, the walls don't change, the people don't change what the people want doesn't change, or how the people feel doesn't change. All they're doing this testing on you with new new toys that they've got. And this is what all of these guys are

doing. They're in their clubs, they'll create their clubs and societies. And they want to test out all their new gadgets and gizmos on these people who do not matter to them. And that's where we got to understand when we understand those people don't matter. We don't matter those people, then maybe majority of people on Earth can decide that these people don't matter to us, and we can stop listening to them. Stop giving them the ability to get away with with things scot free. They do it all

of the time. They can do what they like and they don't have accountability. And that is what Jeremy Farrar has been created into Jeremy Farrar and the Wellcome Trust has been created into supposedly nonprofit entity that's outside government, outside business, outside education. Just it just exists on the side and brings people together well actually brings

companies together actually. It covers up massive fake. Like it over exaggerates pandemics over exaggerate everything to get these companies and pharmaceutical big pharmaceutical brands, get them more business. That's what it's all about. It's all guys in clubs, using their technologies together to try and take over Were there parts of the world, which in this case is medicine.

All right, so I want to get a little more into welcome like really bit because we didn't really get to discuss what it views as science worth funding and what it sees as quote, unquote, innovation. And this is relevant because going back to the food press release about Farrar becoming Chief Scientist, it says, Dr. Farrar will oversee the science division bringing together the best brains in science and innovation from around the world deliver and develop high quality health

services. So what is Ferrara think of when he thinks of innovation in science, while I would wager that his the

projects that welcome leap are an example of that. So I mentioned earlier, we're going to do again, right is in charge of this with her former deputy at DARPA, Ken Gabriel, I think his name is and do you can previously, when she was at Google and Facebook, she was making things like brain machine interfaces, a digital tattoo where your that will be on your body and unlock your smartphone, a pill that turns you into your own authentication, token, smart clothing, augmented reality

stuff. I mean, this is the stuff that she's big on. And then her deputy Ken Gabriel, is one of the leading DARPA guys for micro electrical mechanical systems research, which is directly related to a lot of the stuff that do again, is has been interested in during her time at DARPA, and after that time, as well. And I just want to get a little bit into some of the programs that welcome leap funds. So I previously wrote about this again in June 2021. Not that long after it was

created. And I think I was the first person to report on welcome leak, because no one has really paid very much attention to the Wellcome Trust over the past three years. And I really hope with this appointment of Ferrara that begins to change. And that changes very quickly, so people can realize what we're dealing with here. So the first program I wrote about that welcome leak was involved with is abbreviated as hoped standing

for human organs, physiology and engineering. It's basically about growing organs and growing, living things, growing animals, all sorts of stuff. And using that for a whole variety of purposes, including to replace existing clinical trials. So instead of doing, for example, safety trials on on animals, or human beings, these people would grow organs, and then just test it on the organ and assume that's how a human body would respond to it, which is obviously a way to cut

corners. But we've definitely seen a lot of that over the past three years. They create corners, they create their own corners, so they don't have to cut them. Yeah, I guess. So. Another program was called delta tissue, which was about predicting changes in states of human tissues. And as again, a thing about precision medicine promoting the use of DNA and RNA gene therapies. And they make it sound wonderful. They call a tissue Time Machine.

Yeah, they, they obviously had PR people work on it. But it's all about getting like AI to predict disease in humans, again, this sort of pre crime approach to disease and health, right. So if you can be like, Well, we think you're gonna predict a crime based on your social media history, sometime in the next five to 10 years, and we should send you to

prison. Now, you know, you have to trust the algorithm a lot, especially when the algorithms like well, you'll probably develop cancer, you don't have cancer now, but you'll probably develop it. So you should do all this crazy invasive stuff and inject yourself with all of this crazy goo. And whatever. It's the same. Well, I mean, mentality there. The problem is, with all of this, all of this will succeed if they continue to aim at the young, you know, well, let

me let me get there because there's two more programs. Well, three, I want to just do a quick overview of before we discuss so one of the other ones is called multichannel site site being short for psychology there obviously. And this focus is to develop non invasive technology to directly interrogate the human brain state this can be a non invasive spinal tap equivalent, not sure how you do that Wow. Behavioral or biomarker probes of neural plasticity, single session

neural monitoring capabilities. So basically, you can read between the lines there and see what this stuff is about. A lot of it is aimed at developing wearables basically to read read your mind for lack of a better term but also specifically manipulate what they call the hypothalamic pituitary adrenal

axis. So you know a part of the endocrine system. So it this particular system or access and the body is a negative and positive feedback system but it regulates stress reactions, immunity and also quite notably fertility in the human body, worth pointing out, specifically, if you're familiar with some of our past work on Wellcome Trust and eugenics stuff, and then the most disturbing programs are focused

on little kids and babies. So the most disturbing welcome LEAD program, to me, it's called the first 1000 days promoting healthy brain networks. And essentially what this is about per them are creating objective, scalable ways to assess a child's cognitive health by monitoring the brain development and function of infants and toddlers, allowing practitioners to risk stratify children and predict responses to

intervention and developing brains. So basically, they want to develop a model for how a brain should ideally look and then they want to decide what children don't fit that model, and then intervene to make children's brains look like that model, right? This is very messed up this whole idea of like pruning children's brains to make them all cognitively equivalents of each other as a way of what they say, you know, equalizing the playing field, but really, you could I think

it's pretty communism. Well, I think you're wrong. Right. Okay. Well, I think you can see how this could be misused, right. And basically, the way it aims to accomplish this is that it wants children to be exposed to from the age I think of it's either three or six months of age. I know it's free. It's free and under, is what they say. Okay, yeah, but it's stuff like exposing your child to wearable sensors, wearable, EEG, eye tracking technology. I mean,

these are for babies. Yeah, I'm terrible sensors, have them under constant surveillance. Data, if you want constant data, which is scientific, their scientific modeling relies on constant massive data, such a large amount of data, and they tracking their eyes are tracking

kids eyes. I mean, what what are they doing that for? Well, they'll be tracking everything, they'll be tracking their temperature, they'll be tracking more than talking about their goal here, because remember this with Ferraris, chief scientist at the who, and if they get these powers that they want the food that we're going to talk about in a little bit, this could be this could become a, you know, become

reality. A The main goal of this program before 2030 is to have 80% of children, you know, exposed to this technology in this screening process that involves wearables, and all of

this stuff, like 2030 80% of kids. Now, the guy that created the organization doing this is the guy that's going to be the chief scientist of the who and gonna decide direction of policy all around because they can get the nations or every nation around to sign up to doing this, right wherever they want it whether the people want it or not, this is democracy out the window. Right. And what's particularly disturbing to me also, is that after I wrote that article, I didn't think these people could

get any sicker. But not that long after I published that article, they announced a new program called in utero, where they essentially are applying the same methodology and have the same goals. But instead of applying it to infants and children under three years old, they are applying it to fetuses. The program, as you might expect, is called in utero

measurement and modeling during gestational development. And it's essentially, you know, mobile sensing technologies and you know, surveilling how your baby's doing now, are they looking after the health of children and babies? Or are they trying to understand how to create children and babies because the next the next stage of the transhuman, of trying to grow them

and to make pregnancy licenses a thing? Well, if you if you look at this first 1000 days program at welcome leap, what they want to do, like I mentioned earlier is create a model of the ideal child's brain and then have interventions developed that bring as many children as possible in line with that model. It's a homogenization aren't believable, unbelievable idea how I can I know it's mind

boggling. One of the most important and amazing things about having kids is watching them develop into this person themselves, and not influencing that in any negative way trying to be positivity. You're handing over again your child's health, complete health and, and everyday function over to someone who does not Hear about humans who proved who have proven over and over again, they just don't care about humans. Yet people seem, I believe lots of people will have their children over.

Well, here's the thing as head of the world as the chief scientist at the who, and if these powers that were again, we're going to talk about soon are implemented. Someone like Jeremy Farrar, who sees this type of stuff as innovation that sees pruning child's brains by machine intelligence and having

AI shape, that kind of stuff for future generations. He sees that as innovation, this is going to be the guy that setting policy at the who, and if these amendments were passed, the who will have teeth, ie it will have increased sovereignty, while Nation members or member states of the WHO nation states have reduced sovereignty in these matters. You are basically giving Jeremy Farrar a crazy man a blank check to dictate what you do not just with your own body, but what happens to your

children's bodies. So this is very significant stuff. And this is why I think this podcast today is really important because, I mean, most people think of Jeremy Farrar like you were we were reading before this podcast in an article by I think the brownstone Institute. They just refer and criticize Farrar as a lockdown advocate. Yeah, yeah. And a lot more than that. Yeah, he did everything. I mean, he, he Yeah, he advised lockdowns, He also advised all of the financing and the

response and he was the central figure. Fauci witty with the American and British people dealing is supposed to be at the top, we're told to go and report to her. This is the guy who's doing every ease. He's also the same guy who in 2020, is saying that China is setting the new standard for outbreak response and deserves all our facts. And they are the model for the

future. This is this is a guy who people really, he what I find amazing about Ferraris is hubris, it seems to him he knows that anybody who knows is, you know, knows anything about medicine, knows what he's doing. Everybody knows, who knows. And all of the rest of the people are gonna get injected. And he's got a little smile on his face, a little Dupas delight, a little grin, because he knows what he's doing. And every time I read an article, and they listen to his quote, he seems like he's

detached from the reality of where he is. And when when I read out that piece earlier, where he talks about all these things I've never done before. I don't believe that. I just think that yeah, they had to do that, because everybody was watching them all of a sudden, I think that normally, they're acting in these ways, without accountability, and doing things underhand and dealing with things behind the scenes, and no

one's watching. So they don't have to have burner phones, and they don't have to have clandestine meetings, their meetings in normal meetings to us would be clandestine, if we

looked at them. And these are the people who are in charge your children's have want to put things because this like, some of the technology they're talking about is pumping things into your body, your child's body, and your baby's body that will go around all of their body and map out the insides so they can read the insights what they look like to homogenize your child. This is a firm that has an effort to also the same technology will be

used to cognitively augment your child. But remember that these are DARPA people that are developing this. And DARPA people also frame a lot of their transhumanist endeavors framed as healthcare in similar terms. So this is this could be used to

augment people. But if you also read enough of crap, DARPA, people have said over the years, as I have and some other people have, as well, you will know that they have also said that really, all of these technologies are dual use, anything that can augment can also do the opposite and can degrade. Right? And basically be weaponized to that effect.

So how many how many experiments on the entire population of the earth do you think they can do before they destroy the entire population of the earth? I really don't want to think about it because I just think this stuff is so sick. And I mean, if someone like Ferrara gets the ability to basically just unilaterally decide what what people have to do to their bodies, you know, it's obviously going to go well, no, no, I can't understand how someone like him is allowed to

exist without any sort of accountability. is allowed is not is not in jail. Basically, it's not been investigated and found to have been a fraudster already. That gets gets in a real world. In a real fair world. That would happen but we don't have that. And we document exactly the sort of people who run roughshod over civilized society. This is what this is uncivilized. This is treating people like meatbags, who they can test on, is uncivilized. This is not civilized society.

Right. So I think it's time we turn to turn to the stuff going on at the World Health Organization right now. So, I want to give credit, first and foremost to James Rogowski, whose work I was not familiar with until relatively recently. I'm not really familiar with him or his background, unfortunately, but he seems to be the person raising the most alarm about what is going on at the World Health Organization

right now. So from January 9, until the 13th. And just for reference for those listening, we're recording this on on the 13th. This is the time during which the International Health Regulations review committee are conducting face to face meetings in Geneva, Switzerland, not that far from, you know, Davao, Switzerland, where the World Economic Forum is hosting its first in person annual meeting,

they are willing to mingle. So I suppose it won't be thinking they can jump in and out of each other's Yes, yes. So I'm very true. So anyway, this particular review committee, what they are doing is to finalize the proposed

amendments to the International Health Regulations. You may remember that not that long ago, there was an attempt to bring about these internal and international health regulations, the Amendments Act, but that it was struck down by a vote of who member states most significantly, from a bloc of African countries who said no props to them, but relatively

recently, as well. And we'll get into this in a second, the World Health Organization and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation were part of a new Dark Winter style simulation called catastrophic contagion about a horrible virus that specifically attacks Africa, and specifically children in Africa, and how they need the WHO to have all these unilateral powers in order for a bunch of their kids not to die. That was basically the the message of that simulation anyway, back to the World Health

Organization. So again, these meetings that have gone on this week, no live stream, there'll be no public comment period. They don't really care about anyone's opinion, I guess. They just report only to the director didn't general Lord Pedro's himself. And then ostensibly, this is going to be voted on and 2024. But because of the certain deadlines that have been set up, Renu ski notes that it's very possible that they may instead vote on this stuff much sooner than expected, as a way to sort

of preempt protest or criticism. Oh, and have it voted on the World Health Assembly meeting in May of this year, they very well could. So this is why it's very important to cover this. Amazing, we're going to preempt the protesters by definitely causing proof. Well, they're saying they're going to do it in 2024. But if they have enough time to do it now and then avoid people preparing that oppose it, you know, not give them time to prepare, like something they do.

Yeah. And it's those moments that make us like game like I say, a civilized society or not. You can't you can't say you're civilized, if you're not giving everybody an ability to have a voice or build you to speak up against something. And none of this if everybody knew the facts, none of this would have happened. None of this would have been no, no one would have COVID vaccine in them right now. No one, zero people on Earth.

And what's really interesting about what you're talking about the Kentucky sale stuff, catastrophic contagion, they do it on purpose. They've made it a tongue twister on purpose for me. The catastrophic can agent simulations. Now. It's obvious, and it's clear that Africa did not go with the COVID narrative. It was the only place and oh, well guess what they've they've not had a problem with it, have they?

But there were five. So COVID didn't really hit the African continent, right the way it allegedly hit everywhere else. But you did, oddly enough, have about five or six heads of state all die in a very short timespan. And interestingly enough, all heads of state that didn't want to do a lot of this biosecurity stuff recommended by the fool and ostensibly by Farrar, who was you know, even though he wasn't chief scientist at the time, he was the according to the WHO themselves

the key guy on COVID science and financing of the response. I think that if we want to know where we're going to be in the future and how we're going to be treated in the future by these people, that We should watch Africa over the next two years, because there is going to be some form of what we could call or just simply vengeance wrought upon those people because they

didn't get into line when they needed to get into line. And a lot of these people are I do not care about Africans, they do not care about Africans that totally proved the Wellcome Trust history in Africa. It'll be very clear. Who cares about Africans? Same Same with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation? Yeah. So anyway, I think it's important then, to see exactly what powers the who is attempting to give itself and what will be voted on either in this May, or if we want to

believe them. Next year, your God now? Yeah. Okay. So one of the most talked about perhaps amendments is a change to the following line. So the line originally read, the implementation of these regulations shall be with full respect for the dignity, human rights and fundamental freedoms of persons. That whole last line about dignity, human rights and fundamental freedoms of person is gone now. It's been replaced.

So it's now reads, the implementation of these regulations shall be based on the principles of equity, inclusivity coherence, and in accordance with their common but differentiated responsibilities of the states parties, taking into consideration their social and economic development. So don't forget the word differentiating into any type of let's see, oh, contract?

No, no, but it's happening a lot. Now, I'm sure you've seen it, you know, from Rishi Sunak, you know, statements as, as UK Prime Minister saying stuff like, more because we're, you know, a more economically developed country. So we have to, you know, give all our money away to these countries and these causes and this and this, because, you know, we have a different level of responsibility than less economically developed countries, even though he's basically imploding the economy. Yeah,

yeah. But that's, I mean, I predicted exactly that back in July is clear that Rishi Sunak was the guy who's gonna come in and he's gonna start organizing for the banks to bank Yeah, he's the guy wasn't voted and he was placed in quite a discount. I mean, from from a point of a British person is quite disgusting. And it's exactly the reason why people like Jeremy Farrar get away with what they get away with is that that's the power we've embarrassed direction.

So anyway, these changes, highlight, you know, dignity, human rights and fundamental freedoms go out the window when it comes to the implementation of these regulations. Yeah. So chief scientist, Jeremy Farrar can be like, Well, I think these things have to happen in order to respond to public health emergency acts. And those responses do not have to respect human rights, or fundamental freedoms or dignity of people. Instead, it's about equity, ie treating all people the same. So

everyone's got to get the vaccine. Right. Yeah. So that's basically what the equity and inclusivity part means coherence just means that they're clearly communicating what you're being forced to do. And then, of course, the differentiated responsibilities. There'll be different standards for developing and developed countries for certain things, probably to do with financing. Okay, so the other important changes are about the powers that the director general Lord

Tadros will receive. So in addition, say things like the Director General on the basis of information received may determine at any time to issue in intermediate public health alerts. Immediately after the determination of a public health

emergency of international concern under Article 12. The director general shall make an immediate assessment of availability and affordability of required health products and make recommendations including an allocation mechanism, the who shall develop an allocation plan for health products, so as to ensure equitable access to people of all state parties upon request of the whose state party shall ensure the manufacturers within their territory supply the requested quantity of health

products to the food or other state parties as directed by the WHO in a timely manner, blah, blah, blah. And this directly ties into another amendment made on on that same, that same group of pages that says state parties recognize the World Health Organization as the guidance and coordinating authority of international public health response during public health emergencies of international concern and undertake agree to follow who's recommended nations in their international public

health response. Okay, so let's pause for a second and break that down. So state parties member states of the WHO national nation states recognize that who guides and coordinates international public health response during public health emergencies. And they have to follow they agree to follow the World Health Organization's recommendations, whatever they are, as it relates to that public health emergency. And that public health emergency can be declared willy nilly by the

director, General. So Director General Tedros decides, I think I'm going to declare a public health alert, and it's going to be a public health emergency of international concern front row. And then from that, states have to do whatever the WHO recommends and who develops those recommendations? Well, it's about to be Jeremy Farrar. That all of these all of these, anything that gets implemented, has to work. Yeah, it has to have a function that everybody

gets on board. So they scare people with another virus. What

do you think's gonna happen? Well, I think this is again, an example of their hubris, the great hubris, they believe that they've now found a way to convince everybody that they're going to die, or they should pump the old if they don't get pumped full of their products, their medical products, but they've used up all of their chips over the pandemic, they've used up every single chip, they have, they have to now convince people again, before the pandemic Edelman PR, the right

hand guys, PR firm for well, 60 to 70% of the businesses around the world. And of course, Richard Edelman being the right hand man of Klaus Schwab. And being really closely linked with the World Economic Forum, they were saying before the pandemic that they did increase the amount of people who trusted in the media, again, it gone down to minus 80%. And negative rating minus apes and 80% of people didn't trust what was

going on in the mainstream media. And just before the pandemic, they managed to increase that through all of their tools of creating political crisis and creating fake fake news all over the place, they managed to increase that to about minus 60%. So only 60% of people found that the trusted news, but that was more than the 80%. So that's better. And now it's gone back down again, because people have been lied to. And now, people all around are watching people fall

over, get Ill die. And you know, when this happened before, with vaccines, when this has happened in the past, is meant that the uptake of new vaccines has been really low, and that people do not listen to medical authorities anymore for quite a long period. Because if it happens in your generation, you're not going to believe them all of a sudden, when they tell you the next time, if they tell you in two weeks, oh, we got another virus. We gotta go pump this vaccine quickly. So get

vaccines, it's not gonna be like the last time they had it. They had drive their impotency. They got all of these mainstream media characters, they used all of their chips. And now they don't have any of those bargaining chips. I don't know, because there's a reason why they're trying to get these new powers. And I think it's so they don't have to really worry, yes, they can force it upon people. That's, that is one of my points. Were like the fifth sixth booster is like a 5%

uptake compared to the 1% to the first. So you can see that's what happens every time. Now it's a generational thing. pandemics are so rare, and epidemics are so rare. And they try and push this thing or these things on you so rarely, because they can't do it very easily. People don't just instantly go, I've just left that pandemic aren't going to trust you. Now, you just cheated me obviously out of that, in that last one, they're not going to do that they are going to say no, and

there's going to be resistance. So they have to do it by implementing policies that dictate to the people what they have to have inside them. Right. So let's go back to the some of these amendments. So I just want to point out too, that not only do they take all these new powers for themselves, no need to worry about human rights and fundamental freedoms anymore over at the World Health Organization, because those things get in the way of public

health obviously. Um, so they're also setting up frameworks for specific things and these are what they call health certificates, and passenger locator forums. And essentially this is really a framework for vaccine passports. So, passenger locator forms it says documents containing information concerning traveler destination should be produced in digital form, ideally, with paper form as a residual option. So right away, they're trying to eliminate what we saw in COVID.

There was no digital They're trying to make it all digital. And we know that this doesn't work that all digital is, is what they're gonna ask for. And there'll be no paper allowed. Now, that's what I'm saying. The amendment makes it so that it's essentially no paper allowed that it's has to be digital. So this time around, there's not going to be a paper option, and that it will be used for contact tracing. And that such documents will be recognized and accepted by all whom member parties,

right. And then you have health certificates, which they say health documents, maybe maybe producing digital or paper form, subject to the approval of the requirements, blah, blah, blah, about technical requirements and stuff. And how they can will be protected against abuse and falsification. So you can't make false vaccine passports anymore. And all of this stuff, there's like, you know, creating international standards that will be recognized and accepted

for granting passport. So eating globally, structures right underneath, right, so not all vaccine passports, this time around, we're digital where they know, like in the US, it was like this little card that was produced by HHS, that was like a physical card that was written on by the person that gave the vaccine. In some places, it was digital, like Chile, for example. I think in

the NHS, it was as well, but may have had a paper option. But you know, essentially, this is trying to create an international framework so that it's all digital, again, like the passenger locator stuff. And you know, a lot of people have been talking about for a long time that vaccine passports are a segue to digital ID and you see that, again here. And it of

course, says a little bit more about health certificates. Where it refers to specifically vaccine or some sort of treatment, digital or paper certificates should be used. It makes traveling almost impossible. Well, that's the goal, you're not going to the idea is to basically centralize and standardize these types of documents. Next time there's a public health emergency of international concern

is about do Neo. It's an old trick is creating so much bureaucracy that you feel completely overwhelmed and when you try and I mean, for I had a couple of experiences a few experiences of traveling across the world through COVID. From from the star COVID. And there was when you got to a point where they wanted to digital something from you an airport or, or whatever wanted something digital from you, there was no way out because there was no paper alternatives. There's no

way to print the paper alternative. There's no way to have it. You're just you're just sitting there like hoping Yeah, I remember being in one line where there was this old lady, she must have been a 660s. And they were refusing to let her on because she can fill out this document that was required by Chile, because she was just too old and no one would help her fill out. So she was sitting on the floor just crying. He was just walking past her. That's your that's your future, pay for

your flight. You don't you don't get your money back. You just gonna sit on the floor of the airport and cry, you know, go in anyway. Yeah, it's obviously a bleak future. If this gets through. Some of the other things I want to add really quick, is that state parties are allowed to basically disclose your personal data were essential for the purposes of assessing and managing public health risks. Well, Peter Thiel and like all

that. Yeah, well, for people that don't know Peter Thiel is Palantir has had a major role in managing the data in the NHS and also HHS and the UK in the US, basically, all the COVID data was, you know, aggregated and data managed by them. Anyway, something that's also particularly relevant, that the who plans to strengthen its capacities to counter misinformation and disinformation at the global level. That's why it's, like more censorship far away. And

this time, it'll be a lot worse than last time. So if you thought it was bad last time, and if you think Elon Musk's Twitter will save you from Jeremy, forever World Health Organization, I would know I'd say it's, let's suppose this stuff. Yeah. And then the last one, they expand the definition of what constitutes a public health emergency of international concern so that it can now include clusters of

severe acute pneumonia of unknown cause. So they can declare this new global pandemic when they don't know what's causing it. Like they could be the vaccines that they gave Oh, yeah, or antibody dependent enhancement. Yeah. And then also clusters of other severe infections in which human to human treatment transmission cannot be ruled out. So I don't know. It seems like a recipe for no good Crazy stuff. This way, I feel that they can only become more dystopian, they

can almost they'll have to do everything by diktat. There's no way that you can keep going along this route. And people will be on board. And putting someone is really interesting. They put someone else who works for the organization, and they put someone with so much hubris at the top of the organization, Jeremy Farrar and these guys think then the government can get any kickback that people aren't going to point at them and say, look at the loads of things that you did. This is a

guy. Normally, if someone covers up a pandemic, be a virus being released from the lab and causing a pandemic, normally, you would expect that that person would go a little bit low key afterwards and a little bit quiet. But Jeremy Farage, Ferrara gets put on top slip at the time, Jeremy Farrar gets put on top of the World Health Organization that it just seems like they're they are what we would say balls out now with what they're doing. They do not care, they do not have any fear.

They know that the future is going to be major resistance to all of this. And it is only going to get quicker, it's going to get more extreme. And for that they need the best man in on in their world on top of that, and that is at the moment, Jeremy for someone who's been brought up and trained by some of the most influential I mean, I didn't speak about him enough

earlier. But really important Roy Anderson. And and of course, Richard Sykes, two of the people who helped for our to this area, well, they will once upon a time they would they would be

desperate to be in for our situation. And I have that youth now to be able to do what for I was going to do because variety is taking their ideas on further and that is dictating to people what is wrong with them and making it up if they can't find the evidence and forcing it upon everybody forcing drugs upon everybody forcing therapeutics beyond everything, but more than anything, forcing experimentation upon human

beings, including infants, on everybody. Yeah, so let's recap them since we're, you know, coming up to the end of the podcast. So essentially, Jeremy Farrar over his career has worked for the Wellcome Trust an offshoot of the organization that was responsible for AZT during the HIV AIDS crisis, that killed lots of people and of course,

tarnished the welcome burrows welcome name. And then this figure Richard Sykes sort of oversees the spin off of the Wellcome Trust and GlaxoSmithKline and all of this, but they sort of come from the same, you also at the same time to just quickly put in their sights also rearranges the entire way that all scientific papers are accessed and produced and the database is stored on he organized all of that in late 80s.

Fascinating, I think Robert Maxwell had a hand in some of that shape, from scientific journals as well, actually not kidding about them. That's real. So anyway, Jeremy Farrar throughout the rest of career does things where he is sent by the University of Oxford to different epidemics and pandemics and some cases like the what you noted earlier, he essentially goes against the flu and says, Oh, well, there

actually is a pandemic here. And it wasn't there. And fear mongering was used by the US national security state to benefit themselves. And of course, for our benefits. And a lot of these people who seem to be wrong all the time, like Neil Ferguson, who's models are always insanely, still employed. He's not wrong. He's not wrong. He knows he's wrong through something else. He's not around. Well, that's what I'm saying these people are repeatedly wrong. But they're

kept there for a reason. And it's because them being wrong is benefiting somebody. Right? So these are people who in other words are willing to lie to further specific agenda with that agenda being this biosecurity surveillance state

that leads us in this transhumanist era, right. And that's essentially what Ferrars career shows, I would really encourage people to look at your article Johnny called the welcome five, we'll have links in the show notes, and also my past reporting on unlimited hangout about welcome leap specifically. So you can really see what this guy is capable of.

And I do just want to point out too, that among the top funders to the World Health Organization, is the UK Government and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, works very closely with the Wellcome Trust loves a lot of stuff that they do. Right. And of course, the Wellcome Trust is very much very much shapes A lot of health policy with respect to the government of the United

Kingdom. So it's interesting that you have them being listed, at least right now, as one of the Top funding governments of the who lease on their website, they've really changed how they break down their funding, but a lot of money from there, specifically. So you know, maybe it's possible, that's how Ferrari got this particular position. And, you know, the people that are responsible for Ferraris rise, you know, through Ferrara are gonna essentially be running global health policy in

a way that they've never been able to before. And what we're seeing here is the emergence of basically medical fascism at the global level, in a way, where nation states will lack the sovereignty to say no to the dictates, we've never seen anything like this before.

Yes. And if you're having a guy that's willing to, you know, trying to get 80% of kids hooked up to like, a bunch of insane invasive mind mapping technology to try and like trigger the singularity, and like all of this other crazy stuff, and create like a, you know, cognitively homogenous group of humans and potentially through gene editing a lot of other crazy stuff as well, which is also associated with welcome leap. You know, it's a very disturbing scenario we have

before us. And of course, it's been clear to me for some time that there's going to be some sort of crisis needed to force people to agree to adopt a lot of this transhumanist technology. It's no coincidence. I think that a lot of this transhumanist technology, for several years has been framed as healthcare, one of the past podcasts we did, Johnny was actually titled about, you know, reframing eugenics, as healthcare. And that's essentially what we have going

on. Here still, but there has to be some sort of situation created where people are forced to adopt technology, invasive technology, on or in their bodies, they otherwise would not. And it seems like what we have before us are the is essentially the foundation for that type of event to take

place. And I think people really need to be very cognizant of that, and consider what you will do to oppose this, because it's very, you know, I think essentially, you know, if you're in the place, a place like the US, you know, resistance is not going to come from the federal government, the best you're probably going to be able to do is, you know, affect something at the local or state level, where a state legislature or some sort of local council says that, you know, World Health

Organization dictates, you know, can't be unilaterally imposed on your community or your state without, you know, some sort of debate or something, well, there's got to be some form of effort to stop globalist agendas and policies being introduced on any local level. And there needs to be some rethinking of how we hold our politicians and our representatives accountable, because it's not working.

Well, obviously, it's not working. But I think the response is obviously going to be something that's decentralized. If you make, you know, one central entity that gets any traction, they're going to focus all their attention on that and destroy it, but numerous decentralized efforts to do stuff locally, I think is going to be a lot harder for

them to tack on. I think, you know, based on what I've seen over the past several years, that seems to be the most, you know, effective way out of it, the more resilient you can make your community to this stuff, whatever that means for you, you know, is where this ultimately needs to go. I know that you would like to see, you know, French Revolution style guillotine stuff or whatever. But, you know, it may not

necessarily be that way sooner rather than later. You know, what I, what I really want to see is people come to this and some people think about things and people think about where we go and so so, you know, I though I do joke about the return of the galleys and guillotines. I do think there's, there's there is a point where people will break and say no more. And so that will happen. Yeah, if they keep pushing, the people don't just

keep accepting it, it gets less and less people. And their agenda is really focused and really hardcore, and is really invasive. And some of the people who are involved in it are really powerful people. And there's people who are getting dirty with their associations as well. So one thing I'll just say

near the end of this is that in them the welcome five article. I research five people who connected with the Wellcome Trust in the past, including Jeremy for warrior, Roy Anderson, Neil Ferguson, and Richard Sykes, and I look at a

few others too. But what you find connects nearly all of these people is their memberships of certain societies and certain organizations in their case, it is the Royal Society in the UK, which was made up to be a place where lots of scientists and to medical people and come together and

have their little club. But really, it's a roundtable group where they can separate actions from the politicians and the politicians go there and ask the guys there who are members of the Royal Society to go and organize all of these people to do these things. So it's a way that breaks out if we can see if

we can expose those parts as important conduit. So as important cogs that make this the stuff work without accountability for these bad actors, then we can bring the whole thing that we can bring the whole thing down because their structure relies on really significant and important conduits like like, funding conduit, for the CIA for universities and stuff. You take away that conduit, you stop the

program running. When Kissinger's international seminar was running soon as it was exposed, Kissinger's international seminar stopped. Yeah, but that that depended on journalists like exposing it. Yeah, they're, they're planning to censor a lot more. So I think people should get a lot wiser about media consumption, do not rely on social media, for your news, invest in something like an RSS feed, or some sort of other means of accessing the

sites you like. And in sort of aggregating that information. On big tech, yeah, communicate with a range of people with all different views and get loads of different ideas and a load of different forms of evidence and make up your own mind based on everything, not based on only what certain people, if you will ever get told in life, certain people know better than the rest of you, you, then those certain people are not to be trusted.

That's a rule you can put over life. If you have someone who says no, we know about this, and you shouldn't listen to anyone else. As soon as they say you shouldn't listen to anyone else. They're liars. So the last point I want to bring up here too, is that I do not think that all of this would be happening right now. The World Health Organization power grab this catastrophic contagion simulation, looking at the area era, the main continent in the

world that didn't play ball with the COVID stuff. And Jeremy Ferrars appointment, all of this, to me suggests that what we saw over the past three years, they plan to do again, and they plan to have learned from their mistakes, and they plan to have the big guns out this time. Yeah, okay, I can safely assume that that will not happen until after these

amendments are approved. But after that point, and once Farrar is in this position, watch these people like hawks, there is going to be something they are going to do this again. Because otherwise they are not going to get to all of the different you know, go remember this is all about remaking the world. This is not just about remaking health policy that is a key part of this, because a lot of this technology needed to run the smart grid and all of this stuff they are forcing through

and into our world and into you through health policy. That's how they're getting a foot in the door. But this is about remaking every aspect of our society. That's what agenda 2030

is all about. And one of those sustainable development goals that composed 2030 Number three is about health care, but this is this is the way that it's being it's, you know, if you let them it's game over, how do you cause a great reset of any type of industry or any type of economy, you could see what they're doing now they're gonna have to crash it they're gonna have to make it feel as unmanageable and so then they offer you a new system and

medical may be the same. They will push this until we're already talking about it. Yeah, I headline I saw a couple days ago at preparing for the imminent collapse of the US healthcare system. I've been saying hey, for a long time the

NHS is near collapse. Yeah. And Chilean media, they talk about oh, hotels are overstretch they were your saviors be way your saviors because in the same club in that Royal Society alongside Farrar and Sykes and people and these manipulators behind the scenes are also a rare American is allowed in in this case is only a couple Bill Bryson's in there but also Elon Musk is a member of the Royal Society understand that they all flock together and they will give you your saviors as they give you

a quick talking about you know how I think Ferrara is gonna in this position as chief scientist who was going to try and force you know, transhumanist tech on people. They also need people that oppose the food and you know, their policies and this power grabs they need to sell that same tech to them but from a different angle. Right. And I would argue that someone like Elon Musk has been very much primed and set up for this personal Savior role over a series of years and I talked

about this on a recent panel with with Derek bros. James Corbett Ryan Christian and Jason Burma's. You know, that's essentially what's happened here and you have him you know, selling transhumanist tucked under the same metrics that the same narrative that is used to promote them by people like we're going to do get in the head of welcome leap and by DARPA and stuff. So healthcare justification, how does Elon Musk justify neuro link? Oh, it's gonna help the blind see,

and the Paralyzed walk. And that's how he justifies about commercializing it, and everyone's gonna have one, you don't want to be left behind when everyone's gotten the chip in the brain and the upgrade under there. So you know, I really see that they're trying to sell this from multiple

angles. And ultimately, it comes down to how many people are going to be willing to sacrifice their convenience and their comfort, to say no to this agenda and this technology, it stops, do not let them in, do this stuff to you and your children. Full stop. Yeah. Essentially the way out if you don't know how to organize or do anything in your local community, that's the red line.

Agreed, but they will make a necessity. Now, this time you try to Yeah, well, this time they released a fairly minor, or released or at least released from a lab was a minor disease. In the future, these guys could release something really catastrophic, and spread it around, as they, as they see fit to cause as much fear. And all of these, I told you, so from these people who are in control, now you've got to listen to us. And that's what I see in the future.

Well, I think, you know, my advice would be, you know, a lot of this they can't accomplish without having a lot of people really scared and afraid. So fear should be your enemy. And you should also, again, keep your kids and yourselves away from all this experimental crap, because a lot of it comes under the transhumanist umbrella at the end of the day. And if you don't want that transhumanist agenda 2030 future for you and your family and your community. And more broadly speaking the

world this is this is the time to oppose it the time is now. So again, I would encourage everyone to follow up a lot on on what the who is doing with these amendments, who Jeremy Farrar is, please consider looking into the Wellcome Trust

more if you haven't already. Because as you know, Johnny and I have mentioned before, there is a lack of reporting by independent media on the Wellcome Trust, and on Jeremy Farrar, and he is poised to have a lot of power if these amendments are rammed through which seems increasingly likely, yeah. So please, I would urge those watching. If you haven't looked at or listening, if you haven't before, definitely look at the show notes on this one, take the time to read it and

understand what we're facing here. Because this is a global biosecurity issue. If you did not like the past three years, it's time to get prepared and understand who these people are, what they have done and what they are likely to do, again, and how to prepare yourself and your family. Anything else you'd like to add? Final thoughts, John?

No, no, I would say that. Yeah, I mean, that's well said, you, we, those, I don't want to limit to only those who have children, those who have loved ones, those who care about anybody in the world. I mean, I want to see my children get by without being compromised. And that's what I feel the modern medical system, and these actors do to our children and to us, it compromises the will need to be hooked up to medicines for the

rest of our life. And we all know it, we all know that. So don't just don't fall for it. They see you as a data set as a biological computer. And that's how they that's how they view everyone that's not in their little club, right? And they will treat you like that as expendable and you can be experimented on. That's why you see in the the WHO regulations, dignity, human rights, fundamental freedoms, no, it's about treating everyone the

same. And everyone is a slave as a serf to these guys at the top. And they're going to do everything in their power to make itself and it's obviously incumbent on all of us to oppose them. Well, alright, John, thanks for giving me a significant portion of your time today. Thanks for coming back on the podcast. Where can people follow your work and support you and what do you have coming up? Well, I you can find me at Johnnyvedmore.com. Of course, I'm writing on unlimited Hangout. And I'm also on

fungimonkey.com, which is a lot of my media stuff. There's loads of interesting articles coming up. Just released a piece on the German Marshall Fund, which is a real interest in organization that kind of the piece kind of links up the Henry Kissinger's international seminar and, and the Young Global Leaders program in the way of leadership courses that come out of especially Harvard. I got an Just stuff coming up is really interesting.

Some some things I'm working on at the moment are some of the most interesting things I've ever worked probably in my life. At times as they get more dystopian get more interesting for us as journalists. That's an unfortunate byproduct versus our workload. Yeah. So so I just encourage people, you know, go out and read, don't only read the one thing, read everything. Never trust anybody who tells you not to look in a certain place and only to look at where they go. We want to encourage people to

look at everything up your own mind. And thanks for having me on. Yeah, absolutely. So I think this is a very important timely episode. So I would encourage those listening, if you thought this information was important, please share it around. Because we definitely have algorithms and censorship working against us. And as we just talked about earlier today, next time, the who declares a public health emergency of international concern, that censorship, we'll probably get a lot worse than it

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