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Throwing Strikes with R.A. Dickey

Oct 06, 20221 hr 6 minEp. 69
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Welcome back to another exciting episode of Unleashed, brought to you by BetMGM. This week Olivia Harlan Dekker and Jerry Ferrara are speaking with former MLB Pitcher, the Knuckleball Ace, and CY Young winner, R.A. Dickey. Pitching back to back 1-hitters while he was with the New York Mets, he recorded 120 career wins and was one of the most dominant pitchers in recent baseball history. Today, he joins Olivia and Jerry to discuss his incredible career, the MLB postseason, and race to the World Series. Plus, he also touches on how he thinks his former Mets will do in the postseason, teases a possible comeback, and reveals the existence of a secret knuckleball council. Later, you’ll hear from BetMGM’s betting expert, Peter Andreu, who gives the 4-1-1 on some week 5 NFL wagering. So hit play and listen to another episode of Unleashed, presented by BetMGM!

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From the King of Sports Books comes the Key Sports podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Jerry Ferrara and Olivia Harland Decker. All right, well, Jerry, we thought the craziest video we'd ever see of Antonio Brown was running off the field flipping off the crowd mid game. We were wrong. Oh what a week in sports. Welcome to Unleashed, Jerry. How are you doing eyes for someone

who could maybe say it's unhinged. I don't know what's happening. Um. Yeah, that was definitely an interesting way to start off the NFL viewing week for sure. Antonio Brown Man Just I guess he's living his best life. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's happening. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Some people are saying he had a better d than the Detroit Lions. Oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's move on. She said it, she said it. So I gotta tell you that in London last week, the

vibes were incredible. Yeah, just Vikings fans, I gotta say, outnumbered Saints fans. It really seemed like everywhere I walked I saw purple. My husband kept yelling, go Pat, go to people, and they just turned around like I'll miff you know people, is that asshole? Right? And we get into a London boxing match with a with a brit That would be really interesting, Sam, don't do that. Yeah, but it's cool because we went to this one bar that's right in this awesome area of town for people

who have been to London. It's right by Borough Market in London Bridge. It's called the Banker and the barrow Boy or something like that, but it's like the NFL bar for all these games. And I went with my friend Jamie Urdle, she is the host of Good Morning Football NFL Network, and I went to me here at the set, we hung out, we got to see the crew, Peter Schraeger. I brought the baby. He was loving it. It was really cute. And then we walked to this

Vikings bar because she's a big Vikings fan. She was working sideline of that game if you were watching the game, and she's just a great, great person, really really excited to uh have gotten a seen her out here. And we grew to the Vikings Bar and every time they did the skull chant School School cool my baby, like the loyal Packer fan he is just started crying like crazy. He was hating this moment, like I had to bring him outside of the bar because you know, the Viking

ism was getting to him. So is there no chance he's a Packer fan, meaning like the Chief's blood doesn't run it? Like is that? I know you could maybe handle two teams. You're well rounded, you're car you know, maybe what if he likes the Chiefs. What if Mahomes five years from now when he maybe starts watching football, still slinging it and he's like, Mom, I love Dad, I love Patrick Mahomes go Chief. You can't get mad

at him. No, And you know what's going to be funny is like me growing up was Brett Favre Aaron Rodgers again. My grandpa worked in the front office for the Green Bay Packers. My dad still calls preseason games before he starts his network NFL season. I've done Packer preseason games and work packer training camp like we are packer people. My husband, I don't think I's ever missed a game in his life, including and we've lived in Russia and Turkey, like we are obsessed. However, if Jordan

loves the future of the Packers. I have a hard time thinking my son as he grows up, is going to get like really into the Packers, you know what I mean? Where Patrick Mahomes kids love Patrick Mahomes. And

that's how it happens. As we know, as if Steph Curry has taught us anything with the young kids is that and my nephew who's thirteen now, they kind of fall for They fall for the player, not necessarily the team, right Like that's why, right, So you know, there's very possible our kids might just root for the team that their favorite player is on that didn't go on in my day and my day you pick a team, and if you're just stuck with the players that you have,

you can't just hedge and say go Warriors. I love Steph carry So listen, if this podcast lasts for like three or four or five years, we're gonna have some very interesting fan hood conversations with our kids, that's for sure. Yeah, especially when years become Deshaun Watson fans. Well, I just can't handle me a Browns and Knicks. What kind of what kind of father? Am I? If? I if my son roots for the Browns and the Knicks. I'm basically setting them up for therapy. Deshaun Watson jersey for christ

don't you? Oh my god? But no, it's really fun. I'm so excited. We record this on Tuesday, So now the slew of Packer fans are getting into town and Giants and Giants. I'll let you know next week. What I felt like I saw more of. But I am going back to the same bar because the bar owner told me, oh yeah, we're just switching everything over next week to Green and Gold and then the Broncos. It's also gonna be the Broncos home bar end of the season.

Why how do they investigative journalist? How do they pick for his team? Right now? They're a very NFC North heavy bar. How do they pick? Why can't it be a Giant's bar next week? Why does it have to be a Packers bar? I don't know. I know that the Giants will also have like a team bar. It's like where they're doing pep rallies and whatnot. All I know is I'm not going right. Well this bars want to know? This bar is want to know? Would be really interesting if this bar for betters out there goes

Packers and the Packers winning cover. You gotta sort of track this bar's picks. Then maybe this bar is the only the person who runs the bar is the only person who could pick. I will say as a team who doesn't really the Giants who don't really have a home field advantage. In my opinion, I just think it's hard to go watch games that met Life. It's hard to get to, it's hard to leave. It's hard. It's harder to get into the seat. It's longer to get

into your seat than actually watch the game. I don't think the Giant fans are gonna really travel to London, but it on TV it looked like they were having way more of a good time London than anyone who goes to matt Life Stadium. Just one guy's opinion. Wh hasn't been to a football game in five years? Oh, first of all, we gotta change that. I try to get you to come to this one. But from New York? Are you kidding? You have no excuse getting New York to London. It's like New York to l A. Yeah,

it's nothing. So those Giants fans who want to travel and support their team, and obviously you know, probably expensive plane ticket, but come on, and for Packer fans, Packer fans travel really well, and Packers are packers, like the Steelers, And who else would we throw in this mix? Who are like international brands? I mean Cowboys for sure, Coolers for sure, you could say the Niners for sure, Raiders.

I think Raiders are international. Maybe No, No, I mean I'm only those teams that were like all right back in the day there was only four teams on TV. Was like the Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders, Lions, Bears. I guess Bears have that. Yeah, But I do think there's gonna be Packer turn out this week. I do. I think this is going to be exciting. But you know, the NFL has had thirty one games played in London, which I thought it was less than that. So good for

the NFL. This thirty second game played in London. Get this, Jerry. It's the first time two teams with the winning record are playing over here. Isn't that wild? Well, it's it's wild, but no, I think it's it's very accurate. That's data that we've all known. We've been serving arguably the worst, if not second worst game of the week to to these for these London games, and all they've done is embrace it and love it and cherish when these games

are played. So I'm happy they're getting to winning teams. I'm shocked that my team is one of the winning teams. Uh, do you know what the Giants record is in London? In London? I don't undefeated in London. Let's go. You know we're going to talk more about that. I mean, here we are talking the whole episode about this. We knew this was happening, folks. We knew this week, regardless of it was in London or whatever, was going to be big. But I think we should place a little

friendly wager on this one later on the show. It sounds good. I'm always up for that guy. No, I'm so excited going to the game. My mom's in town for the game. She my mom. By the way, if you want to go back to an NFL game for the first time five years, theory, go with my mom. No. One embraces the culture in the NFL and the tailgating and the post game party and the pregame party and the halftime party. Like my mama. She is fantastic game. I'm down. That's what I need to go back to,

go back to. I have a theory with going I like going to football games, not my first sport. Basketball to me will always be like the number one sport to go watch in person. You know, I didn't know that well because it's quick and it's easy to watch, and it's you seem like a guy who you know you're not in it for the long haul. Also, I don't want to sit in a seat and be freezing cold, and I like East Coast teams. I'm sorry, I don't want to be and I'm married woman from the Midwest.

I don't want to be freezing cold in my seat. I just I'm sorry. I've called me soft. Whatever you want to say, that's just just the wayest. Then you would hate at Lambeau. You know it's metal bleachers, like, it's not seats. I'm good. I'm going September. Newspaper you have to sit on newspaper because it's so called. I'll go September. I'll go to their second week two game next year. Speaking of that, this Packers game this past weekend against the Patriots, gorgeous day. Did you see how

beautiful that looked on TV? And Unfortunately, people should have gone home earlier than they did. Gorgeous day, not gorgeous football. I mean, I don't know what to make of the Packers this year. I think they're good. I just don't know are they going to be trustworthy when you start getting down to late season and playoff games? Like we know Aaron Rodgers is trustworthy. Are these receivers gonna be trustworthy? Is the defense? I mean, you could tell too. Sorry,

I don't know. Belichick looked so happy to be coaching in a game where like this is like straight out of We're gonna run the ball four hundred times, We're gonna like he just looked happy to be coaching this weird game when the way I'm having a quarterback, I know, speaking of kind of unpredictable. And how did you do betting wise this week? I feel like you've had a couple of dogs lately. Well, I'm losing the parlays, I'm hitting the teasers. I went against what I was doing.

I've been doing ten point three team teases right, and I've I've won three weeks in a row on those. This week, I got a little cocky and I said, you know what, I'm gonna knock it down and get the better odds. I'm gonna knock it down like a seven point tease. And I had the Panthers plus eight and they lost my ten. If it would have been a three team tease, they would have been plus eleven. So my thing is like, just keep the three team teases. Ten point teas is coming, don't knock the points down.

This past weekend was a little rough. Definitely didn't hit but my Giants one which kept me coming. But usually I have the teams that I love to bet against year in, year out. And we've talked about this on this show before. Who are the bottom three NFL teams? Meaning like you see them? That's always where your eye is. A better goes to, like who it used to be? Like who are the Jags playing? Or who are the Texans playing? I don't think you could say that anymore.

The Jags are up fourteen nothing in Philly and then all hell broke loose. We we talked last week about parody and it is. It's interesting bottom three teams like our Raiders got I have it. I think I think I have my bottom three and I first win. But I mean the Broncos looked terrible and they lost their best running back, the only one they have that doesn't fumble. I think you have to put the Steelers in the

bottom three, even with Pickett. I I'm sorry, is there a way we can't put those Lions on the bottom three after watching that defense, America's Sweetheart Hard Knocks is over. It's old news. We fell in love. I'm on Ross Brown's amazing. If he's not like I love the offense, That defense is bad. Maybe I got them there, and I'm sorry. I think I think it's the Commanders are on a fast track to be in the bottom three. I'll raise you, Carolina Panthers so well. You know you

see Stephen A. Smith rant on Baker Mayfield. That was cold. I will say maybe if I can't find the teams that I always like to fade, I think maybe like kids rooting for their favorite players, I think you maybe start finding your quarterback to fade. And maybe that's Baker Mayfield. I know, I know, God, he's struggling, he really is.

I don't know why. I like always feel bad. I don't care who it is, like, I feel bad when I see a quarterback, especially a quarterback, because they just they get the highest of the highs, but man, do they get dogged when they start failing. And Baker's had no no grace, Like, no one shows Baker any grace, not saying he deserves it. But even if you was, like had at least one win, two wins, like, I just feel like everyone's going to give him a hard time.

People just want He's a guy people want to see fail, and I think that's really fair. I think people root for him to fail. Also because of the number one pick thing. I don't think that did him any favors in a way, although it's a huge honor and you could say at the time it was deserving, you know.

I think right there that maybe was the start of like you're the number one pick, you're the best, you know, I don't know, I don't know if that it's all situational and also being a look, sorry, Cleveland, I love you, being a part of the Browns with the rotating head coaches and so before Stefanski and the rotating offensive coordinators and you know, not really the best situation to be in for any young player to start their careers. It's

all situational. So you mentioned Pittsburgh earlier, and I was thinking about that. I was excited. Sam and I were sitting here watching and we go, oh my god, he's going in. He's going in. I think everyone was because it's a great story. You know, he played his college ball there. Fans were cheering for him. It's great. Did you know that the Steelers are oh and seven without t J Watt? I did not know that. He's pervious about Kenny Pickett. I mean he had two rushing touchdowns

pretty quickly, and his three picks. I don't think tell the whole story. One of a hail Mary. I mean, it's whatever, it's It looks worse on paper than it was in the game. He definitely changed the energy. I thought he was exciting, but I mean, they need to teach it. What back my god, and their schedule coming up. Sorry Jerry, but it's tough sledding at Bills, at Dolphins, at Eagles. That's on the next four weeks and somewhere in between there is TV twelve at home. So yeah,

I'm sorry. I know tanking when basketball is frowned upon. I tried to fix it, and maybe they did fix it a little bit. And I know tanking and football there. I can't say it hasn't happened. If anyone should maybe kind of say it is too early to give up. But with this hellish schedule they have coming up, and if it doesn't go their way with a rookie corps, it can't be Rabinsky. If it's Chrabinsky playing, you're just waiting for Picket to be ready. Obviously that's not the answer.

Long term, getting some draft value is probably good thing, especially if what's gonna miss sometime. The sucky thing is Mike Tomlin is a championship coach. I don't want to see a Mike Tomlin team rebuild. I just don't want to see it. I mean, I know he can do it. I think he's he's he's a Hall of Fame coach. I love Mike tom That's like one of my dream coaches for the Giants, but he never left Pittsburgh. I don't want to see him rebuild. I want to see

him like competing for a championship. He's so good. Yeah, but better to see someone like Mike Tomlin, who's young and cool and hip, rebuild than like Pete Carroll, like whenever Belichick Exactly. These guys can't rebuild. Come on, yeah, do they? And and I'm surprised they want to. I don't know. Maybe I don't know. I just think at some point you've done everything there is to do. I'm not saying like you don't love the job. Maybe they love being around the guys and the camaraderie of a

football team, and maybe that's it. Quit. These guys can't quit. I just don't want to watch the Steelers, and I don't want to watch Tom when rebuild because I just I just love watching that too. In the player. You give him time to prepare for a team, it's almost automatic. I was just having this conversation at dinner to night, was why do old football coaches and old politicians not just go sit on a boat somewhere just freaking retire,

Go enjoy all the fruits of your labor. These people are so rich and choose the most demanding, arduous professions. I could tell you who is not going to do that is going to be an old actor if he has enough money named Jerry Ferrara. You won't see me again, amen, Amen, you not see me again. A boat somewhere. I won't

be on screen. You won't see me again. I love it. Um. Something else from this weekend that was such a huge storyline going into week four was the big meeting Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen and will the m v P odds change it all? Because those two go on head ahead, someone was going to come out on top. And what a weird game. Josh Allen leads the biggest comeback of his career. They're down twenty to three, they go run and really

different from last week. They led time of possession or sorry, Ravens led for twenty last week in Miami, Bills led for so weird, so don't you know, just time with possession even matter? But the craziest thing, Jerry, was that the odds did not change going into week four for Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson for m v P. What are your thoughts on that? I think it was justifiably so because the game itself, it didn't sway me one way or the other about how I felt about their

m v P chances in that game. I think if anything like, yeah, I get their odds staying the same, and Jalen Hurts is officially on that watch of you know, if they continue to win these games and their records is gonna be impressive, and he's leading the league in rushing touchdowns. That's who I'm watching. But the Ravens really gotta you know, one point. I think almost every, if not every single game was like within one score, like mid way or late third quarter. I don't know if

I've ever seen games that are just that close. The Ravens got to figure out how to play with the lead. And I don't know what the deals they have running bad. They don't know they they're now blowing some leads and those two games really might haunt them down the road. They're lucky they're in the North. Amen. Okay, Well, in addition to the NFL, we're going to preview the MLB postseason with former MLB pitcher the knuckleball Ace and Cy

Young winner are A Dicky will be joining us. We'll get his World Series prediction, Jerry and if he thinks his former team, the Mets can make a run here and then your Yankees will teams even pitched to Aaron Judge in the postseason. I definitely want to get his take on that one. And I think you've got a couple of thoughts on postseason right, Yeah, listen, I hate to make this my unleashed for this week, but I think I have to. We're talking to r A Dicky

the Mets just how to collapse. Baseball playoffs are going to start, so what better time than now? Knows? But if I try to, I try. I think of myself as a baseball purist. I don't love all the changes, but they've really opened my eyes with expanding the playoff amount of teams and all that. I do think that's good for baseball. And we're gonna ask our A Dicky about that. So let's go step further. We're gonna throw out all the stuff and just bringing all this new

stuff baseball. Why now, look, I love baseball games in October. Now we are going to have games in Cleveland and New York and we might be gonna get some really really bad weather, not always the best for playoff baseball. Why are we still right on the NFL's corner when if you just maybe cut out thirty five games from the regular season, keep adding playoff teams, slide the playoffs back up into August, and end the season World Series

Game seven just post Labor Day. I know baseball traditionalists are gonna roll their eyes and probably scream at me when they see that in the street. Tell me if the World Series wasn't on start Game one, wasn't September one. You're not making that like appointment television as opposed to you know, when is it going to be? Thursday night football gonna be a problem and Sunday night football? Like

there's just too much competition. I don't know why we have to pair it up with everything going on the NFL. People are getting super psyched for basketball. I love baseball. I think it deserves its own month for the playoffs in World Series. Cut down the regular season games. Give me more playoff teams, give me more playoff games like you already doing, and end it by Labor Day. End by Labor Day. You'll own the month of August. You will own the month of August. No, I get it.

August is like the slowest month in sports, So I like it. I'm with you on that take. We talk a lot about programming, you and me, because we always are questioning why sports are scheduled the way they are, Like your your ice cold Super Bowl Saturday pick. But yeah, I'm with you on that. That was a great take. You know you you're coming. You know you liked it. You know you like that take m Okay, we'll speaking

of that. I I've got a transition because I think you and I should do a friendly wager for our two teams facing off in London. I can't wait. I'm going to the game and this is gonna be my unleashed because I think the Packers right now are an eight point favorite, and Giants we still don't know about Daniel Jones. He's still murky, I think. Was the headline I just read. I'm a little worried about your defense.

They're pretty gnarly. Five sacks in the first half last week they only had three coming into the game, so I'm worried about how the Packers old line is going to hold up. As you know, David Batiaris still gearing up. Belton Jenkins on the right side has been struggling. But overall, I think Packers tip to tail are a better team. I like them to cover. I'm nervous about that though, but they are a top ten offense, top ten defense, and the Giants are in bottom third offense and defense.

But I also would urge our betters take the under because the Packers are struggling score We obviously are seeing that, and it's been their lowest scoring total in four games than two thousands six So, uh yeah, take the under, but take the Packers to cover. At least take the Packers money line if you're not as confident. And with that, Jerry looks like just you know, like a friendly wager. This doesn't have to be intense and no money. But what do you think, what's something that we can bet

against each other. Well, it's something we should try to do on this podcast, and it's something. Look, I do believe you're gonna win. I'm gonna go full reverse psychology on you and try to reverse CHINGSI the way Peter andrew it. Look a couple of things. The Giants who have given me so much joy this year where banged. Uh. I mean, first of all, Tyrod Taylor should just just give that guy like he should sue everybody. He's got the worst luck he does of any quarterback, and he's

he's a very very talented quarterback. Like I don't know, they just someone gotta take care of that guy. He's he just wants to play. But I mean, we might not always say Kwan Barkley might be our quarterback tip with might still be her oh Lor might still be hurt anytime Cadarius Tony wants to play football, I'm ready. Kenny Golladay might be hurt. Big loss, They're real, big loss. I'm getting the eight points, right? Come on, all right? How about this, because and I do think the how

about an honor of the cheesehead thing? The loser has to on this podcast for a good amount of the time where a piece of cheese that the winner gets the select Are we just doing money line? Fine? Fine, cheese on my head? Fine, yeah, yeah, Okay, loser has to wear cheese, real cheese on their head next week for the entire recording of Unleashed And okay, the winner can choose the variety, right, there's a lot of different cheeses. Wait a minute, isn't the guest like Kevin Garnett next week? No? No,

I want to do that to you, all right? Can I at least take it off for the guest interview? M Please come on, I'm giving you money line. I'm giving you moneyline, and that's more than fair. I'm giving you money line. I could take the eight points. Just look, you're looking at the guests. Could you at least no cheese for the guests. Fine, no cheese for the guests, but the winner really gets to pick the cheese. And that does not leave out anything that is liquid. So

think of kaso, think about fondue. You've got to think about think about sprinkled cheese. I don't like where this is going, and I will agree to this now. But okay, oh, I hope the reverse danks works right now, because then you are in for because you're being mean, right you are. You know you're gonna win, and you're you're messing with

me right now? All right, guest today, Just like the knuckleball, he took a very interesting path to becoming a Young Award winner, and for a stretch he was one of the most dominant pitchers in baseball history. He pitched back to back one hitters while he's with New York Mets, and he recorded a hundred and twenty career wins. Are a dicky is here? So look, you retired in seventeen, not that long ago. I need to know when is the last time you threw a knuckleball? You're keeping the

arm loose these days. Yeah, I'm limbered up, man. I I uh. I threw a knuckleball yesterday to my son, he's sixteen, and we played catch and I hit it. I hit him in the knee with it. It's still good. He went to Yeah, he went to catch it and bounced off his knee, So I know I still got it in there. I might be making a comeback when I'm about fifty, when my kids were out of the house. So if, for instance, the Mets made an emergency call, how many innings could you do you think you could

eat up right now? And the Mets could have used it this weekend. I can tell you that if they made an emergency call, how many innings, like right now tomorrow could you could you go? If you had to? I think I could probably go three. You know, I'm not in baseball like endurance shape, but I could get through three, you know, because I don't have to be at max effort with that pitch. You know, I can throw it sixty and have it danced around and got swinging mass, so I don't have to get my arm

like fully in shape. But to be a starter, I need a mind. Oh my, but three innings still, I mean I'm dead series. I really think the Mets would have loved nothing more than to pull you out of the bullpen against the Brasy What what what is it about the knuckleball? And I'm sure you could ask us all the time, but like, why don't we see more guys trying? Is it just that difficult to master? Which it seems like an it's like the mystical pitch. It

really is. Yeah, you know it is that there is some you know, I joke all the time with people that I had the good fortune of getting to work with Phil Niekro and Tim Wakefield and all those guys. I call him like the Jedi Council of knuckleballers. I mean, there is something, there is something very mysterious about that pitch that causes it to move around like it does.

And to answer your question, I think one of the reasons that you don't see more guys doing it now is, yes, it is very difficult to do, but you also have to have people that have a stomach for it. And I don't know, in this narration, if you've got a front office that has the patients to deal with, you know, catcher running to the back stock across the balls rolling around, or a guy walking three or four guys in an inning, or they're looking for the next Steven Strasburg. They're not

looking for the next White Wilhelm, you know. I mean, it's that's interesting. Are there any types of hitters that especially see knuckleballs well or is it just as unpredictable for them as it was for you? Well, I'd like to say that, you know, it was immune to all types of swings and types of hitters. But I think the reality is there were certain guys that were really good at going to the opposite field that gave me fits Like I I could face Aaron Judge and Mike

Stanton all day like that. That was good a Rod those guys. But it's the little kind of natty guys that are okay taking their single to right field that gave me all kinds of trouble. And if you have a guy like Freddie Freeman, for instance, who probably has you know, a career six average against me, he's good at both like he he likes going the other way and he's got power, so he was double trouble for me.

So when I got when when I got signed to the Braves, he was the first guy to call me, and he was so disappointed because he wanted to face that keep facing me. Think. So, I'm a Yankee fan, but obviously I had a great deal of respect watching you pitch for the Mess. And I'm not a Met hater. I like to give my Met fans a little bit of a hard time, my friends, But I do want to ask you this because this is a debate we

always had. You know, you go back to that Aaron Boone walk off home run and that in the series against the Red Sox off of Wakefield. Now, the origin of that was Boone was essentially benched. He was in one of the worst slumps any Yankee has ever had. Now, my friends always suggest that Aaron Boone hit that home run because he was slumping and like bat speedwise, almost like you said, like he almost just took the knuckleball

and just did whatever he could with it. He wasn't trying to rear back, Like is there anything to that, not saying like a guy slumping is more prone to hit a knuckleball or was it just right place, right time for Aaron Bone Well, you know, I'll say there's no There's no pitch that's more difficult to hit in baseball than a perfectly thrown knuckleball, and there's no easier pitch to hit than a poorly thrown knuckleball. And so I think it was just a it was a combination

of tim you know, and Timmy I'll tell you. You You know that he kind of rolled one up there. It was probably about you know, seventy mile an hour BP ball, you know, because if if that, if that ball rotates just even a full rotation, it's going to straighten out and turn into the easiest VP that you could possibly hit. I mean, you're you could you could probably hit one

out on it. So, you know, I think it was a kind of a combination of both, like the right guy, right time, and he threw a clunker up there that got crushed. You know. Now, I don't know if you were messing with us or not, Like do in your mind? And I'm always asking professional athletes this after retirement, you know, do you because retire it's a tricky thing for anybody. You do something for so long at such a high

level and then not having that in your life. Like if you watch a baseball game today, do you always get those feelings? I could go back out there, I got more left. Yeah, you know, that's a great insight. I think that really a guy who, regardless of the sport that he's played, if he's played it for most of his life. And I played professionally for twenty one years, so it's the only life I really ever knew, or

my wife for that matter. And to learn that dynamic of how to do life apart and together and then apart and then together for twenty one years takes a lot of skill. And then all of a sudden you're thrust in this Petri dish of being next to each other all the time and who's in chart? Like that's a difficult thing for anybody. And so that took some real getting used to. But to answer your question, when I watch baseball, you know, I really don't follow I

follow friends now more than teams. I mean, I grew up a Braves fan because I'm in Nashville, Tennessee. But I still have really close friends that play, and when I watched them play, you know, I still sometimes evaluate, well, could I could I still get Freddie Freeman out? Could I get Dames be Swanson out? Could I get Josh Donaldson out? All these guys that I played with? And the answer is a resounding yes I can. And so

I didn't retire because I ran out of steam. I retired because I felt like I was being called to be a husband and father, and so walking away. You know that John Hart was going to exercise my option for two thousand and eight teen with the Braves, but I just felt like my kids needed me. I had two daughters that were coming of age and needed a day at around to help supervise that part right. And so it was the right time for me to step away. But my body is still in good condition and I

feel like I could do it. That's really powerful testimony and really refreshing. I think to hear you probably understand more than the average person does what Tom Brady is talking about. You know, he says, I've got demands at home. I've got a family of kids who are getting older, wife and wants me home. Do you ever, you know your ears perk up when you hear Tom Brady say

some of the stuff, do you know? And to be perfectly honest, I wish there were kind of modalities in place for guys who can see the end in sight to help that transition, and because it it can be messy, like when you're seeing that play out maybe in the public eye a little bit with Tom, but he you know, who knows the real truth there. I mean, let's not speculate,

nobody really does. But I will speak from my own story and tell you that, you know, it is hard, and it does ring bells when I hear you know that he and just Sell maybe having some trouble around his retirement and retirement because you're torn between two worlds. It's all he's ever known since high school, literally, and that it's hard to do that for a long long time.

You sacrifice much and you get a lot. There's no like, I have complete empathy for that piece, but you also a lot of people have to give up stuff for you to do that. Um, if you have a family in particular, yeah, I always marvel at you know, I'm a relatively new dad. My oldest is three, and my youngest is one and a half. Olivia is a relatively

new mom. And it's one thing when you're kind of working and doing whatever your career dreams are, when it's just you or even just you and your significant other, like you, it's it's a it's it's workable. But yeah, the minute the kids come involved. Even if I get offered an acting job. These days, my first questions used to be, well, who's in it, who's starting? Like who else? And now my question is like where is it? And how long? Because my mind is immediately to how long

do I have to be away from my family? So that's a really interesting way to think about it all. I want to switch gears for one second because I'm a big baseball fan. I've been watching it was my first love. There's so many rule changes now kind of going on, and I just would love to talk about someone who's stood on the mound and and you know, looked at home plate. You know, we got the pitch clock ten seconds, we got the the banning of the

infield shift. Are these things that ultimately may may help baseball long term or is it getting too far away from the things that we all maybe loved about baseball? Well, you know, I think that's a great question. Um, I think it just depends on what side of the aisle you fall. You know, if you're a baseball purist, then you're probably gonna be stand office to a lot of the things that are being implemented presently. If you're a

new generation watch it. You know, you're you want the game to be faster and more entertaining, and you want to get in and out in three hours. And like there's a lot to that. You know, we because of you know, I don't want to get into a big philosophical thing here, but technology wise, we have been groomed to want things very quickly. You know, Um, information is quick,

Things happen quick. We want results fast, and so it's the game's got to keep up with that if we want to hang on to not so much you probably Jerry, because you're a purist, but you know, the my kids right like, um, my kids, they want it to happen one way or the other quickly so they can move

on to the next thing. Um. And that's kind of what we're up against is an industry and baseball is how do you keep some of the things that made baseball so special and so deep and earthy and have a balance of that and the entertainment piece, you know, keeping people around and engaged and and that's a that's a tight rope to walk. It's hard. Okay, So those are the actual rule changes. What about all the unwritten rules in baseball? How to work with a knuckleball pitcher.

Did a manager ever tell you, hey, are a we need you to drill their best hitter. Can you just reach back fire one into his back? We need this man. Yeah. Well, you know, I was a veteran for a lot of my career in the major leagues, and so most of the time the manager wouldn't have to tell me when something like that needed to be done. You you did that kind of You did that because you knew that

was what was called for. And of course I did that on occasion, and you know, I was at more risk than most because if you got hit with a fastball from me, you knew it was in internal right because I don't throw fastballs, throw knuckleball, and so if I hit you in the back with a fastball, you knew right then that it was the real deal, and so you were probably going to either be aggravated or charge or you knew that it was just the medicine that you needed to take because of what you did

the ending before. It was some combination of all that. But of course, uh, I have had to do that, and I never throw a knuckleball when I hit somebody on purpose, that's for sure. I'm gonna be a tiny bit hypocritical for a minute, because I did say I was a baseball purist. But you know, the sort of expanded playoffs I do think ultimately is just good for the overall health of baseball only because we love playoff games,

you know, and we love October baseball. Is that is that something you wish were was around, like more playoff spots available. I know I'm being a little hypocritical. I'm a purist, but I love playoff baseball. There's no bet to me. It's it's it's up there with any other sport. I agree with you. I think I do enjoy an extended playoff period with more teams involved. You just got to be careful. You do so much work. You play a hundred and eighty three games and hundred sixty two

games and a hundred eighty three days. It's basically what you do. So you've grinded for that long and if you put yourself in the right position at the end of that, you want a reward for that, and so you want to make sure that you can fairly do it. But I absolutely agree with you, Jerry, that it's good for baseball and good for cities. And good for the industry to have more playoff baseball going on. So all right, the knuckleball is such a rare pitch, so few have

mastered it. Do you think we'll see another knuckleball pitcher in the MLB again? Um? I do. It might be me, but it might Uh, it might take some time. I think there's a couple of guys in the minor league that um are doing it. And there's there's enough of the old school regimes skill in place there, at least at the concern a tent level, that they know the value of the pitch. So I do think that there's

gonna be opportunity. The problem is, guys, it's just the longer that we go without one, the more difficult it's gonna be for a club to really give it a chance. You know, you're gonna have to be really supernatural with the pitch because you've got to You've got to earn the trust of the front office more so as the knuckleballer than any other picture, because they keep waiting for the other shoe to drop, no matter how good you are. They just think it's kind of a blue key thing

and they don't understand it. And and none of the data or the metrics can really predict it, and that that's hard for them to stomach. Can I also just ask, off piggybacking off of that, how do you get to the decision to be strictly a knuckleball guy? How did that even come about? I think it's just because you no longer are good at doing what he wants. We're good at uh, you know. So it's a lot of it's just because you're a failure really, I mean and true in truth, and you've got to be okay with

that piece. And I think that's what keeps people that have good knuckleballers from being really good, is they still have to hang on to that piece of their ego that that made them who they were for so long. In order to be a good knuckleballer, you have to forget who you once were and embrace this new path. And if you can't really do that, it's going to be a hard road to hope. And so you Rare is the and I'm not saying this because I did it.

I'm just saying it's a fact. Rare is the guy who can let go of that ego enough to be able to embrace that he's no longer who he once was, and if he ever wants to have another chance to playing in the big leagues, he's got to embrace this thing that's really hard to do. Now you met, you mentioned pitching to your son earlier. Has he shown interest in learning or not yet or maybe ever? I think he assumes that people expect him to do it, and

so he toys for ound with it. But in truth, like for him, he's a he's a you know, six three too oh weight, So his hands are too really big, and so he can't his your your fingers have to be a certain link to be able to put pressure on the baseball in the way she need to to manipulate it, and his hands are just too big. So my my goal for him is to teach him how

to throw a hundred you know, forget the knuckleball. That would be so amazing though, if he was in like a big like three to count bases loaded, oh yeah, and he just busted out the knuckleball and struck someone out with the bases load, that that might be the if nothing else, you should make that into a movie.

That's a great storyline. I'd be incredible, I know, I so like, we for sure have talked about how to do it well, and he'll pop out a good one every ten pitches like that we throw on or we're practicing on the stove. He'll throw one good one out of ten. But it would be epic if he threw like, you know, eight and two thirds innings with a runner on third, you know, dropped the one in there to end it, that would be that would be off. Oh I got I could get tears ago and just even

thinking about that, that's incredible. Yeah, incredible. Well, we've got to look forward to playoffs a little bit. Let's start with the Mets. They couldn't hold onto the division lead, but they still got to Graham Shures or how do you like their odds in October? Yeah, I'm torn because I grew up a Braves fan, but my best years of my career were with the New York Mets and

having incredible relationships with the fans there. So you know, I love the pitching that the Mets have, but it's going to take more than just that for them to do it. I really feel like the depth that the Dodgers have is good. You know, it's it's gonna be a it should be a really good playoffs. Like, if you're a baseball fan, this will be this could be one for the ages as far as top to bottom, from the wild Card games all the way to the

World Series, you're gonna get really good baseball. I think, Yeah, you know, I the Yankees were actually the first New York team that had their lead in their divisions slipping away and they managed to hold on. But I look at it like to me, especially the American lely. Obviously you can see the Dodgers. I think the Dodgers of the odds on like sports book favorites right now, but I do think it's outside of that. I do think every other team it's really who gets hot at the

right time. I worry about the Yankees because they're so top heavy with judge and standing. Playoff baseball is just different right where I feel like one even hot picture could could could win you a series because you could see them every third day. Yeah, Jerry, you are you are really a baseball guy, because that is really a

two observations. I feel with the Yankees they are top heavy, and also most playoff series should come down to the bullpen, and so if you can identify the team that's got the better bullpen, you're usually going to find those guys that painting throughout. And so if the bullpens show up for the Yankees, I like him. If they don't, then it's gonna be tough for them. Yeah, it's kind of been my concern with the Yankees all year, kind of lasting for me. I know, I know I'm doing this hole.

I'm a purist rent playoffs being in October and you start looking around like there's gonna be playoff games in Cleveland. You know, I've spent time in Cleveland. There's gonna be playoff games in New York now, and it just gets so cold. So you know, did you have ideal whether conditions would be like a windy October night kind of be that's awesome for you, right, Yeah, it can be. I need a little like from my yeah, from my pitch.

I need a little humidity, so you know, it's a little bit more moist than cold, like the way the ball reacts to humid weather, especially with like a thob moll or a breeze in my face. I mean that thing, you know. You know Bob Viewker's quote, like the best play to catching knuckleballs, but wait till stuffs rolling and pick it up right, So you would I would be throwing a lot of those types of the pitches in that kind of climate. But you know, I've played in

with Toronto, the Toronto Blue Jays. We were in the playoffs against Cleveland in October and it was bridging. It wasn't like the your adrenaline take sober. And you know Cleveland fans are you know, they're they're tough, so it's not a big deal, but it can get pretty cold. I want to go back for a second. You said Freddie Freeman was a guy who loved to play against you, But did any hitters ever come up to you and say, okay, all right, I'm getting embarrassed, just give me some advice

on how to hit this thing. Did the opposite ever happen? No? You know what I was fine with. You know guys that were a lot of times, guys that were going good. We would go into a series and I knew that who their hot hitters were, because you know, you've got all the analytics and the data before you get to a series. I would see some of those guys on the day I pitch Peel out or take their one day off a month because they didn't want me to

interrupt the way they were feeling at the plate. And so a lot of times that I would get that that that that would tell me more than anything, you know, my saw young year. A lot of times I wouldn't face the other team's better hitter or their best hitter because they were going well and didn't want me to interrupt what they were doing. Um, which can can happen if you let it get in your head. You know, I can interrupt you a hot street group click, or

I can put you into a hot street. Well all right, I can't thank you enough for doing this. I really do hope we get to do this in person one day, because I really do want to at least just even just see the I just want to see the grip. I just would love to just because I'm a civilian. I just want to look as as someone like we all just wanted to always know how to do it. So there is a mystic. I love that you're a part of the Knuckleball Council. I think that's a thing

that we should talk about more. And I beg anyone who makes baseball decisions. Yeah, no, do not lose enthusiasm for knuckleball. And I would love nothing more than to see you towing the rubber a year two whenever you feel like it's okay to come back. I root for that, I really do. I would love to see and I think you could do it. I think you can do it.

I appreciate that you never know. You know I I thought about it seriously from the last couple of months, really just what it might take to do it, so we'll see. Well, I've got to ask, because you said it would take you a month to get back to real plane shape. What would you do in that month? Uh? Yeah, Well a lot of it would just be getting my arm in shape. Like I don't call you back. Really, I'm fine, but I would have to get my arm able to throw a hundred pitches in a game, and

so that just takes about a month. I'm not going to have to do it. Oh my god. I would love Well, now we know, I would love to see Gerry. Maybe you could play in a month. I can't do any No, I can't do any I I will not be I will not look. If I retire from acting, I will not be coming back after that. Because that means I can't do it anymore. So all right, thank

you so much. Enjoy the awesome baseball players started coming up, and uh yeah, I also look forward to at least let's make the movie about the kid who throws a hundred miles an hour and throws the sickest knuckleball to strike someone out with the bases loaded to win a playoff game. This has been awesome. Thank you so much. Yeah, you're welcome, guys, You're welcome. I'm glad to be here. Yeah, Gary,

I have done it. I finished season three. It was fantastic, as advertised of entrage, so so good, and I gotta admit I'm a little embarrassed to say this. I teared up at one point when Johnny Drama has his new series on NBC and the reviews were horrible. He gets in his car that you got detailed and cleaned. Now you have a new love interest. That the whole another story, And then he goes to Arizona and wakes up like in the middle of a canyon, sad, depressed. His career's

gone nowhere. And then you all call him to tell him they had sixteen million viewers on the premiere episode and it's such an emotional moment of what's kind of been an emotional season. You've got to tell me about that episode. Yeah, this was really the genius of Kevin Dillon a k a. Johnny Drama coming to play here because you had two and a half three seasons of build up to this emotional moment where he finally gets his payoff. And uh so that episode ends at the

Grand Canyon where he screams victory. Right, So flashback to when that episode aired on HBO. We were on that year, I think right before The Sopranos, So that episode ended at the Grand Canyon. Total random episode of the Sopranos, which is a big one. If you haven't watched that one, I won't spoil it for you. That episode of the Sopranos right after ours, ended at with Tony Soprano at the Grand Canyon. So it's two Grand Canyon endings. But yeah,

it's like Johnny Drama in Success. Everyone that has that friend that's like the worst enemy to himself, he actually had his moment. It was great. It was so good, such a good episode. Another good episode of finish out that season was when you go to del Mar the horse races and you and Drama end up kind of in a pickle. You end up with this horse and he gets arrested. This whole thing. Tell me about that episode, because you said every time you guys go away, you

have a lot of fun. And that's I mean. Del Mar is kind of a way. Del Mar's away and uh yeah, if any of you are unfamiliar del Mar, which is right near Lahoya, basically San Diego, beautiful track. It's right on the Pacific Ocean, so like you're watching horse races, and then to your right is beautiful some of those beautiful views you'll ever see. And as I mentioned to you when we talked about the Vegas episode,

where there's gambling, there will be bets made. And let's just say in between takes we were shooting out a real functional racetrack, we were all making bets. I always love long shots. We found the sixties six to one, and I think my logic was I looked at Dillon and Connolly and I said, hey, you guys are Irish. This horse is from Ireland. Sixty to one. Let's go. I think we put like a hunter bucks each on it, or so we hit big. We hit big, Yeah, did you have to do the same thing that you did

in Vegas drive home? That you were scared to take that much money home? I guess you're already driving. Well, this was this was del Mar so we were drying. Yeah, I was say I was well in my criminal organization and having done nothing wrong and was able to drive. I was able to drive that cash right home. It's just different now, a little more season veteran at this point, Olivia. Oh, I love your kind of naivete with this whole thing. How do we get this cash them? What do I

have to look forward to in season four? I can't wait to start. So season three is all about getting that opus right. Vince's chasing Median and getting that dream movie that's going to validate him as an actor. And I will say it might be a be careful what you wish for season potential movie has been so cursed. I keep thinking, Oh, they're they're, Oh they're not, Oh they're they're they're not. And then the directors like, I

want the whole thing in Spanish. I have the Median poster behind me, So spoiler alert, the movie does get made happen. Yeah, but you're now at the apex part of the roller coaster, you might be on the way down potentially. Okay, By the way, the whole storyline with Adrian and his agent, that whole part just really pissed me off. I'm like, no, no, no, don't not the agent. You don't, don't the agent that sidetrack. But oh, that storyline kissed me off. You. Yes, and I'm sure somewhere

there's no way that was ending. Well no, and I'm sure somewhere in Hollywood that's probably happened. Although everyone says Entourage was a fictional world, and it was, but I'm sure somewhere along the way something similar happened to somebody. Are you hinting at something? No? No, not me, No, not you, not you? Are you hinting? Is his character based on No? No, no, no, oh my god, off Air? I hope you tell me. Although this show, I mean we kind of we kind of say it all on.

There are any of the characters based on real people? By the way, Yes, and no. So you know, obviously it was always technically inspired by Wahlberg and his friends, because he really did have entourage and stuff. Obviously, when Adrian was cast, he's never really been mistaken from Mark Wahlberg physically, so it it evolved. Yeah, all there is a Johnny drama out there of who was Mark's boy, who was part of his life for a whole time.

I think he actually did used to do the thing where he picked up his shirt and showed his abs and called them the Hollywood squares. That was like a real thing. Uh yeah. And then I think it became Mark's Friends. And then once Doug Ellen, the showrunner was in charge and writing, he merged it with like his group of friends. So we're a bunch of people's childhood friends merged into HBO character. Oh my god, it's so fun. Okay. Season three was amazing, as they all have been, so

I can't wait for season four. All right, coming to us live from the Bahamas from his own wedding weekend, Peter Andrew, you have one understanding bride, my friend, because if this was my husband weekend of our wedding, forget it. You have to do what podcast gonna do? What I told you, this is not worth this. I love you, guys, so I'm happy to be on here for some time with the parents. So it's all good. We love you too.

We're so glad you're on. Hey real quick, Jerry and I were just thinking we both have gotten married in the past. I don't know what what Jerry, this is my five year anniversary coming up with it for you. I just had five year anniversary back in June. So we are wise, we are experienced. Darry, what's your top piece of advice for Peter this weekend? My top piece

of advice is look. I Also, it's very similar to what it's like on a on an acting set, right you, there's the two stars of the move of the movie, and there's one and two on the call sheet they call them. In this case, your future wife is number one on the call sheet. You are number two. And it's gonna be like that for a long time, and

it should be. My advice to you is just take five, even ten minutes alone where it's just you and her after you've been married, away from all the people in the party, and just even if you're just sit in silence and stare lovingly into each other's eyes, just have ten minutes where you just connect and just celebrate, and then then you go into the party where you guys will be justifiably so the stars of the show everyone's gonna want to talk to you and eat when you

can because you ain't gonna eat, so whenever you see food, eat that's it. That's all I got. And my advice is write her a letter the night before the wedding. There's a lot going on, rehearsal, dinner, welcome party, all this stuff, people in and out. You feel like you have to like entertain everyone in case the day gets away from you. I like the idea of writing your future spouse a letter that just lays out everything that is the reason you're doing this in the first place.

What do you think about that, Olivia, I've already started writing that way so way ahead of you. Someone else gave me that advice too. There will be some things that I add from this week, but I started it yesterday before we left so and and yeah, and Jerry, you you gave me that advice on your podcast. And yes, that's something we've been talking a lot about. Is just get away from the craziness. Even it's like you said, for five ten minutes, just to make sure we're soaking

it in and enjoying it. Really put things into kind of perspective. So I love it and really appreciate it for you. Guys. Now I have my wedding gift for you. I'm gonna give it to you on this podcast. You're ready, Okay, your wedding gift is this is your last week picking games on this podcast as a single man, quote unquote. So we're gonna close the chapter after this week. Whatever happens this week, whether you're up or down, we're ending that part of Peter Andrew on this show and we're

starting the new part next week as a married man. Well, we're gonna start tracking your wins and hopefully not losses, because I just feel like you're gonna start seeing the ball a little differently now that you're officially a married man. So this week you're down a little bit on the show, not much, a little bit, So this is gonna be Peter Andrew's last few little picks here as a single man. However you finish after this week, we're closing that chapter

because we're onto a better one married Peter Andrew. So last week was a little rough. You flip flopped off one t a. It just was rough. It just was rough all around for everybody. This week. How are you feeling in general? I like this because I was like big ten Wisconsin Pete. Now I'm sec Bama Pete. So I kind of I kind of like that we're at here. That's exactly it. That's exactly we uh. We said it

quickly before we started. But you know, it's tough a couple of injuries, especially in that Viking Saints London game last week, no excuses. We're gonna return the chapter, like you said, um this week specifically, so I've done things slightly differently. I really like the Titans minus three at the Commanders, so we're gonna put five units on that one.

I think the Titans Titans what you saw last week way more focused effort with Derrick Henry twenty two rushes, hundred fourteen yards touchdown, even got them involved in the passing game. I think they're they're realizing that's obviously the work horse they need to get going again. You still need to see a lot from Tannehill. Losing a j Brown becomes more and more apparent. So where does Robert

Wood step up? We'll see. But I think you know, the ground and pound game that's been working for what five six seven years now with Derrick Henry, you've got to get back to that um and the commanders their defense, the rush defense, specifically middle of the pack, and I would say they haven't played any outstanding running backs yet. So get Cowboys, Lions, Jags last couple of games. They haven't played that one A kind of guy, so I

think they'll struggle. Washington as a whole just doesn't look great. So love Titans. Mine is three and I'm putting five units there. Okay, so ten units overall, half your stack going to Tennessee. What do you got with the remaining five? So it's I'm putting two here. But if you want to get a little crazy, as as a fan of customer Lions, over forty five and a half against the Paths at home, the Lions are literally putting up thirty

five a game. They're given up thirty five a game, and then you've got the Pats who were given up twenty four game. That is a recipe for another sixty point a game like last week where the Lions I think they combined from ninety four or ninety two points something crazy. I just I don't know why this total, well I do know why this total is forty five and a half, because Pats are without Hoyer and mac Jones. But it just seems like the Lions can't stop anything.

And again they're gonna put up even without Alman ros st Brown a lot of injuries. They're putting up thirty thirty five points game minimum. So I don't understand why you would take the under here, especially when it's only sitting at forty five and a half. I'd say that goes up as the week goes on. Public clost at, the Lions are that wedding cousin. They're a guests. They're a cousin at your wedding. That's like, oh God, Billy's had too many. He's not too much. Just someone go

get Billy. Billy's out of control. That's the Lions at the wedding. They're just out of control on both sides of the ball. I like to pick everyone's got a Billy. I've got like seven billies coming this weekend. I only say the name Billy because my cousin Billy had a feel. So I'm not like typecasting all billies. I'm just I'm pulling from my own experience. It was my cousin Billy who was the guy who had one too many, So that's the only reason why I'm pulling from that experience. Alright,

you can, but we'll see. Yeah, And I was gonna say a third piece of wedding advice. Don't be billy. You can't be billy. You have to be the groom. You gotta be the star. Okay, for your one game parlay Colts at Broncos. Broncos really struggling last week, they bought, they lost their best rusher, Davonte Williams, Melvin Gordon struggled, fourth bumble of the year. And you are going to really build up a monster parlay here, Okay, and then you know, third game. This is another one that's tricky

but doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Vikings minus Aid at home. The Bears are bad. They are really really bad. They're the I think the second worst rush defense. And you got Madison and Cook which seemed unhealthy and looks like he's good with his shoulder injury a plane against that second worst rush defense. I think the Bears really really struggle on the road at Minnesota, and they're almost dead last in terms of putting the points too. So they're putting up something like fifteen seventeen

points a game. I don't see how they keep it close. I think the game comes down to justin field and can't he score touchdowns, which just doesn't seem likely. So Vikings minus A two units there feel good about that one as well. Just the Bears are a tough team to watch. They made the Giants looked great last week, which is somewhat difficult. Sorry, Jerry, that was a jabbing. You guy doesn't invite me to his wedding, and then

he's making fun of my favorite football team. All right, all right, I see, Okay, Then all that is left is your famous one game parlay, and you're building a pretty big one this week for Colts at Broncos. Broncos struggle last week, giving the Raiders their first win of the season and losing their top rusher, Davante Williams. What do you like here? Yeah, so, I don't know if it's famous yet because I've just missed by one or two every single week. But I've changed the strategy a

little it here. So so to your point, Olivia, losing Javonte Williams, they're obviously going to be a bit more reliant at home in the passing game. So I think Russ and the team. You know they tightened ship or writing ship a little bit. Russ over a hundred seventy yards, not a lot to ask for their Courtland Sutton first touchdown of the year. I got him fifty plus receiving yards, so I think they get him more involved. Judy thirty five yards, so again you're really not asking for much

around their two wide receivers, they're one and two. Mo Ali Cox on the cold side, getting him more involved last week fifteen yards. Again that's a catcher two, so again not asking for too much. And then the last two things more games specific. Broncos minus three and a half, I think they win at home. Colts do not look good. Um and the Broncos over twenty three and a half so total, I think they put up somewhere between to thirty points. Looks like Jonathan Taylor may not be ready

to go next week. That toe has been bothering him. That's a plus five fifty parlay. So lots of appealing alternate lines, whether it's the alt line on the game, the oltline of the points, or the atline on some of the player props. So I like that. You know, one unit ten dollars take home sixty five bucks, not too shabby. So hopefully these work out and this new

strategy pay some dividends. This is why I love that we're gonna label this one, uh, not asking for too much single game part like, because the way you laid it out, if we would have laid out that case before week one for the five hundred million, however, many hundreds of millions of dollars, Russell Wilson's getting paid to play quarterback with all the weapons he has, we would have been like, wait, thirty over thirty five yards over

a hundred and seven, like those are no brainers. And now we've been reduced to saying this is our wh're not asking that much for this single I think those are great picks, but you never know it with with this is just shocking. The I'm sorry, I'm going on a tangent here, but you just really it got to me because you are not You're right, you're not asking for too much, but that single game parlay at all, And who the hell knows what's going to happen with

with this Broncos team. Clearly they've cost me some money at some points this year. How emotional I'm getting it's crazy. I mean, you guys talked a lot of about it a lot in one of your early segments, how great this division was supposed to be, and we've talked about it too, and look where we're at now. I mean, Chiefs have proved to be legit great win last week on the road, but Raiders look awful, Broncos very very questionable.

Even the game they squeaked out against the Niners that put charters barely held the lead against the Texans they barely had they held on barely. And it's again, it's like a thirty for thirty. What if I was to tell you the NFC East it would be the best team in the NFL, It's like a thirty for thirties. It is ridiculous. NFL is drunk at the at the at their Billy. Yeah. Last week was the Olivia special that you built. This week is the Pete's Wedding special.

So I think you're going to be a winner. Yes, So I feel good about it. But there's a little bit of tension in the room here because there's a specific game nine thirty Sunday in London, Someone's Giants for Someone's Pack. The lines at plus eight right now, Giants without potentially Daniel Jones without potentially t Mobile Tyrod Taylor. How do you guys feel about that? Well, we have a little bit built in of our own. Do you want to tell them about our bet? Yeah? I got

set up. I'm vulnerable here and basically the loser for you know, I guess we're honoring all the cheese heads out there because they're probably gonna win. Has to wear for the entire ship? Is this the entire show? I think has to wear a piece of cheese on their head, real cheese, not like the little styre foam cheese heads that we've all loved. Real cheese on their head for

the duration of the entire podcast. I might be starting se Kwon Barkley as we're starting quarterback, and my lovely co host thinks that this is just fine, So she used to put some stinky ass cheese on head for an entire like blue cheese, blue cheese crumbles in this hair. It's awful and it's vulnerable, and I'm gonna totally play it down because I still think the Giants are gonna win. But it'll be fine. You just grossed out a lactose

and tolerant guy. So bad here, don't get let's not let's not get Pete feeling a little little queasy before a big day. Buddy, congratulations not only on having an amazing single game parlay, but also marrying your partner for life. It's gonna be great, Peter Andrew. Everybody, this is give Stephanie, I love and everything. Thank you so much, later, buddy, all right, Olivia, that's gonna do it for another episode. Thank you, Ari, Dicky. Awesome interview. Thank you, Peter Andrew.

I'm getting married. It's gonna be awesome for you. Odd giants, packers, London cheese. Bet, it's gonna be It's gonna be a good one. You you. I don't like it, but a good job. Can you smell the JEDDA. I can't wait. This is gonna be fun. We'll see you guys. Can't wait to go to the game. I will tell you all about it next week. I can't wait.

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