The King of NFL Sportswriters with Peter King

Welcome back and happy New Year. What was your New Year's resolution? My New Year's resolution was to watch more sports that if you could believe it. Okay, maybe not. Yeah, I need I miss hockey and to get back into UFC. But either way, the stage is set for football and my bye week is over. I am ready to go. The NFL season might have been one week too long because I this week was a little bit painful watching some of these games, but you said it perfectly. Let's

go real quick. Do you have a hockey team? I do. I'm a die hard Ranger fan, loved hockey, but they did hurt my feelings in when they had had the player lockout. It was the year after the Rangers won the Cup for the first time in fifty years, and they had an older team, so thirteen year old me didn't understand why they locked the players out. Let's go love hockey. Yeah, tough to explain that one to a

thirteen year old, you know, Jerry, I'm hurting. I am really hurting because I'm oh for three on college football playoff games. Betting wise, I had Michigan covering they obviously lost a TCU Georgia covering against Ohio State. They only won by one on New Year's Eve. I think that was a two and a half point spread, and I had TCU covering in the National Championship thirteen and a half is what I got it at. You were crush

them sixty five to seven. So I don't know if it's a resolution, But like any degenerate gambler, I can't decide if I keep trying to come back or if I cut my losses. And maybe I don't know. I'm telling you this, I'm not gambling on the wild card round because the weirdest things happen I come back at all, it's gonna be like I'm taking really safe bets. I'm doing teasers like you, I don't know what what do you think I should do? Should I wait till like

the divisional round? Okay, it sounds like first of all to you. We definitely need to talk to Peter Andrew on the show later because he knows what it's like to kind of be on a little bit of a down streak. But he brought it back. He's really recovered. Can I just add to that Peter andrews to blame. We did this together as a team, you know. He he wasn't on the last couple episodes because we did

our New Year's show and college football last week. But him and I have been texting and doing this on our own, and in fact, he came to London with his wife. He came to London for New Year's Eve. So we spent Years Eve with bet MGM Betty Expert, Peter Andrew and we had a ten offense. So we'll talk with Pete at the end of the show. You know,

I did something for the first time ever. I'm gonna implore you to maybe not skip the wild card round only because there is, in my opinion, there's some opportunity like this might be your last chance to bet against. Skyler Thompson is us name whoever the Dolphins are trying out there. This might be your last chance to bet against Tom Brady in the Bucks, although I don't know if you'd want to do that. So I already I did something for the first time ever. I have never

placed playoff bet as early as I have. I saw the lines. What was it was? Taking this on the Tuesday? I saw them, I want to say, yesterday morning, and the teaser, the three team ten point teaser was screaming at me. I think it was Niners. So you get them down to like, uh, I think minus one and a half Giants, I think you kind of pushed them upward to like fourteen and a half, and um, I'm

forgetting the third team, which was another there's the Bills knocking. Basically, it's like Bills to win, Niners to win, Giants to cover a fourteen and a half. And I did it on a Monday. Yeah, the spread too for Bills in Miami. That's gonna be torture. I mean already, the Dolphins cannot play up there, they can't play where it's cold. And then, like he said, Skyler Thompson rolling out at quarterback and even the to a conversation I think is a good one to have, and maybe we wait till next week.

But if you're the Dolphins franchise, what do you do with two? I'm moving forward because of course he wanted some big games, he got the ball rolling everything. But I wouldn't say he's like a lock for a big extension or anything. No way. Well, first and foremost, you know, who knows always three concussions to three and two and a half months, Like there's just such a big health

concern and in college, big injuries in college. I mean, yeah, Like I'm not going to say I know anything about concussions, and I know I'm sure like whoever's handling him is no, you know, they'll give the right information, but like I don't. Is it out of the question that he even plays again? Much? I his career is over because he can't play. But that's a lot of concussions in a short amount of time bills right now or minus ten and a half. Oh, that's bigger than I thought. So that's what I met

with the ten point tees or so. But you could lock them. It's kind of probably it's gonna be a bigger, so you I locked them in with my ten point teas are basically to win. Yeah, it's basically builds to win because the point five doesn't matter because there's no ties. So but I think that might go as high as I don't know, how does it get to thirteen? It might get the thirteen. You know what I might do.

I might wait till we get to Phoenix for the Super Bowl and we're gonna be in the bed MGM like sports book, which is, oh my gosh, the pictures of this place. It looks immaculate. It's mountains in the background, the stadium right in the background. So you and I have a really fun super Bowl trip just in a couple of weeks. I can't wait. So I might wait till we're actually there in the sports book and maybe just do a ton of super Bowl props. Okay, outlook,

I'm with you. I might bring up I might bring a sleeping bag and camp out on the bet MGM set like sports But I just might camp out there. I think That's what I'm gonna do. Plus, it's gonna be nice weather, so aren't you looking forward to that? That's gonna be a lot of fun. Well, Coming up in this show, we have a great guest joining us. It's the man behind one of the most popular NFL columns, Football Morning in America f M I A an outstanding writer and NFL insider, Peter King will be joining us.

He's he's like gold standard in sports journalism. He's at NBC now, but you might have first read Peter during his twenty nine years at Sports Illustrated, writing the internet's most popular NFL column, Monday Morning Quarterback. Also the author of five books in his spare time. So he's been at Sports Illustrated as long as I've been alive. So that makes me feel very weird about his make you feel young. He's been there a long time. He's the best.

So yeah, we have tons to talk with Peter about about Week eighteen and looking ahead to wild Card round and just overall big stories. He's a big story kind of guy with incredible context in this league. I want to pick his brain to about if we have time, I hope we do just about the quarterback situation. I think this is setting up to be the closest thing to the NFL has had to like an NBA off season in the sense of what veteran quarterbacks are going

to be bounced around. We know the draft and what can't wait to talk about the Texans situation. And but we know the draft, but there's gonna be at least three quarterbacks that probably go rather early. So I just think it's gonna be a crazy year for quarterbacks. You know, cars out there floating around. Garoppolo may come back, that just might be moving. What are the Jets gonna do? Goff sitting there in Detroit? So I really want to

talk to Peter about quarterbacks going forward. Yeah, you're right. Just there's like big names and new names that all can be shuffled around. It's really exciting, especially I don't want to look too far ahead to the draft, but I mean week eighteen, it's hard not to talk about draft capital. So you're right in this season really did come down to the final game. So before we talk about playoffs, Jerry, are there any bets that you want to brag about or admit that you had really wrong?

I went first when I haven't talked to you about two weeks, so I'm curious if there's anything I've missed, you know, as far as like really wrong, I've been pretty solid. Like I said, the teasers have held up my parlays. I'm like the king of three out of four or four out of five. I really should just be betting these games straight up and not parlaying them because I keep winning three out of four, four out

of five. So I could have been making money this whole time, but I just wanted But you know, my parlays are more long shoddy. What I did, really I enjoyed this week was I really bet the scenarios and it ended up being okay. But I bet like the Pittsburgh making the playoffs scenario, meaning I bet the Steelers. I had to sprinkle a little on the Jets, but I also bet the bill, so I did okay with that, and I did bet. I just had a feeling the

Rams were gonna beat the Seahawks. I really did, and man did they scare the heck out of a lot of people. And I'm not gonna lie, and this is probably painful for you all over the lot, I was all, I've rode the Lions wind streak this entire time, and I'm proud to say it. Yeah. Sorry, we'll get to that one. That was brutal. And again I always talked

about this because we're in London. When that game got slated to the Sunday night game I can't watch, and and the Georgia National Championship game, my alma mater, I have to wake up to that news. So I got to see how horribly I missed on my bet, but then also that I missed this complete butchering job by my Georgia Bulldogs, which would have been really fun to watch in person, and all the theatrics of that's in

Bennett's last game and all this. But that's the one thing I hate about living overseas is I missed these night games and then it's horrible when you have lost money on them. But as we do, look now at the playoffs, so Chiefs are the number one seed in the a f C Eagles number one seed in the NFC. Do either one of those surprise you, No, not at all.

Obviously the Eagles scared everyone for a minute, but that just you know, you see, really, it's how the value j with the with the value Jalen her attack Gardener Minshew is like a trendy name. We all love them. Great couple, right, but you know, day and day I think now that even though the and the Giants did test them, even with all their backups. You know, the Giants played them to the to the final whistle. But

I think they're going to be back on track. Their biggest issue is getting healthy and whatever rust Hurts has and the Chiefs. Not that the Chiefs don't surprise me at all. I really do think when they lose, they fall asleep at the wheel. That's how good they are. They're board with being great. Yeah, they know though it might be a crazy tough road for them. You know, they might have to go through the Bengals and the Bills and the Bills. Yeah, no, it's gonna be good.

AFC is gonna be really good. But they get a rest up obviously, and then for the Eagles to rest up. That's huge with Jalen Hurts injury. But I'm excited to see if Kansas City can work up some more crazy trick plays that look straight out of Ted Lasso or something. I mean, that was pretty fun to watch. That's when you know they're so much better than everyone else because

they actually had the balls to do that play. Of course it was out of hand, but did you see Patrick Mahomes after the game was like we were just messing around and Coach Read said, like it, let's do it. It's pretty insane that we're watching. You know. The only real equivalent to me is like how a player or a team has changed the game is like sort of what like Steph Curry and the Warriors they with basketball of how they were the first team to really win

by shooting with that much volume. Uh, you know, it used to be a shooting team can't win. You have to be able to go in the paint, you have to have a low post presence. They change that. Mahomes and the Chiefs have just changed everything offensively, and it covers up a lot. You know, their biggest risk is going to be can their defense hold up and they're gonna there's two good quarterbacks who are waiting for them. But hey, he covers up, and that offense covers up

so much right. Well, just by the way, as I was looking back at last year seating, both conferences top seeds were upset in the divisional rounds and both four seats made it all the way to the Super Bowl. Rams and Bengals. So the Ram season is obviously done, like you mentioned, but their final game against Seattle proved to be one of the best of Week eighteen. Seattle takes them to overtime. With a little help from their friends in Detroit, they make the playoffs. Do you know

Smith got a million dollar bonus? He had a great season? What do you say mid season? He's like, they wrote me off. I didn't. Right back, everyone was kind of cheering for Gino. Great season. Let's and look, I think we could say, I wonder what MGM want to Let's see we could find the odds of what the two four seeds would be this year. To Matt, I don't think we're gonna get a Bucks Jags super Bowl, Florida would go insane. I don't think we're gonna get that.

But yeah, for Gino, it's it's an incredible story. And it hasn't been a roller coaster because that was his high moment of the year and he was almost out of the league almost. I mean, we didn't know if we'd really ever see him as a starter again, and then he definitely hit a low point. This year. It got a little rough for the Seahawks. The defense got exposed, the injury started hitting, and then they pulled it together.

That win against Detroit now is a defining win of his career in a way, because that win against Detroit's what basically locked up the playoffs for them, having the tie break over them. Okay, you mentioned the Steelers, and I want to talk about the Steelers and the Lions, two teams that missed the playoffs but really hit a stride at the end of the season. Looking at the Steelers, they started three and seven, finished six and one. You mentioned your kind of cheering form you can never count

out Mike Tomlin. And then the Lions. Oh, the Lions. They started one in six, they finished eight and two, and Dan Campbell at halftime being very honest, very transparent. I love it. I love the passion saying we went the Packers to miss the playoffs. It was awesome. I don't know if I ever like I'm sorry the Seattle in Miami, I feel like the rightful heirs of the seventh seed more and the past, I'm sorry Packri. I feel like it's the Lions and it's the Steelers. I

think the playoffs would be significantly better. And maybe this will hold up to be incorrect, you know, maybe they'll be a big upset. Maybe Miami will show up. Maybe Seattle will show up. I don't see it. I just would have loved to watch Lions Niners. I think that game would have been awesome. Obviously San Francisco would have prevailed, but I think it would have been a much better game. And yeah, I would have definitely love to see Steelers Bills, but it shook out how it shook out. They both

teams came on too late. But I want to talk to Peter King specifically about Goff and that situation in Detroit, because I think that when I was talking about quarterbacks earlier and how it's going to be an interesting offseason, I think Golf is on a big part of the interest and what they do with him and how they worked out out, I think he's earned himself that job. I don't think they should draft a quarterback, right. We've talked about it on the show, and I'm with you.

I think, especially watching how we finished with fifteen touchdowns and zero interceptions, I think Lions have to excentiment I like it. You gotta stop getting in Twitter wars over this, though, Jerry. You gotta know your audience. I don't know, Yes, I do, I know my audience. I told you. I don't really participate in Twitter that much. But and maybe I'm part of the problem because I'm sure there's someone is saying

that about me, like this Ferrari guy. I won't get off this point, but just acknowledge when what you're saying, you know, when the narrative change. Stop trying to fit all the things into your narrative that's now changing, you know, like, yeah, the strategy of a rookie quarterback contract. It's a great way to build a team. Of course, duh when you

hit on the homes or Joshua Allen or Jalen Hurts. Sure, but we've seen the opposite of that when it's no offense Zach Wilson or you know, josh Rosen and you wasted the high first round draft picks. So I think the lines are close. I think they're close, and that division is shaking up. Good for them. And that's why we love the NFL, right like in the NBA. I don't think you'd ever see that this. You know, we got nothing to play for, but we have a ton

of pride. We want to finish with a winning record, which is very important. God, that's why you gotta love the final day of the NFL season. It was it was fantastic, but another season ender and Lambeau. This is three straight seasons now that Aaron Rodgers has lost the final season, the final game of the season in Lambeau, which is just unacceptable. And you know, after the game, Aaron Rodgers didn't want to do a jersey swap, that

whole thing. He walked off with his arm around Randall Cobb as old, buddy, you know what when talking about the Packers, and I mentioned, like, I bet the path for that game to matter. I had the Lions getting the points. I did initially earlier that they think, you know, all right, Lions getting the points. I just liked that bet. But then once the Seahawks one, to me, that did make the I'm not saying I was that smart. I

know people have had this take. It did make the Lions to me, much more of a threat to actually win. I didn't think they would ever pack it in, for lack of a better word, and say, yeah, let's roll over. So that's when I took some Lions money line. Actually, he didn't want to do a jersey swap. And they certainly, let me say, they certainly filmed and shot that like it was we were watching the end of a career.

I'm sorry, I they just shot it that way. Maybe I don't know if Aaron Rodgers tipped his hand at all. It's certainly they shot it in a way like you as an audience sort saying, this is this guy's last game. The jersey swap thing, I didn't not reading too much into that, like just maybe he wants to keep his jersey. I don't know, Like the first person who runs up to you, you you have to be like, oh, okay, you asked first. It's you know, it's an Aaron Rodgers jersey.

He could be his last game in Green Bay. But it sounded dramatic the way he did it, and Aaron doesn't say anything without thought, and the way that he said no, I'm going to keep this one. That seemed tactical. Everything about him seems tactical. Look, is there were a world though, where I don't know. I think there's a world where maybe the Packers say, yeah, let's let's make something happen and let's move on from this. I don't

think it's all just his decision. I think the Packers are finally at the place too, where they have to think about their options going forward and how they can make this team better. And he makes a giant sum of money, which is good. He deserves it so but yeah, that does kind of lead us, right and that we would doing Audible of the Week. He walked off with his arm around his good buddy Randall Cob. Who knows maybe his Randall Cobb's last game and that's why he

was walking out like that. But this is what he said after the game, and are Audible of the Week going through your mind? Is you and Randall walk with your arms around each other off the field. I just love the man. I uh I always had a tight friendship with him and just a lot of gratitude h in the midst of disappointment. The best part about this game is the relationships to come out of it, because those lasted longer than the career, and I'm thankful for Randal.

Where do you stand on what you want to do next year? I mean it's a little raw right now, you know, it's just a little bit after the game. So ah, I want to take the emotion out of it and have the conversations and see where the organization's at and see how I feel after some time has passed. Is there any sort of time table. Is that there like a date where you want to make your decision by yeah, I mean, I'm not going to hold them hostage. You know, I understand. You know, we're still in January

here marches for agency. So, UM, I just need some time to, like I said, get the emotion out of it and then figure out what's best. You know, you want to go out winning super Bowl, but it's very rare that that actually gets to happen. Um, I don't want to, you know, lose your last game, uh and miss out in the playoffs. But this is a great profession and a really tough business and doesn't always end with rainbows for everybody. Okay, enough of hearing from us.

Let's get to the King of NFL writers, Peter King. Thanks so much for joining us again. Peter. How are you, Olivia? Jerry? I'm doing great. How about you, guys? We're great. We're we're kind of pulling our hair out trying to think of all the playoff picture and all the scenarios and what we're all going to do for the wild card weekend. And that's why we've brought in the man who can

give us a little bit of clarity. But before we get to all that, we got great news obviously this last week on Tomorrow, Hamlin, and it led off your column and was written so well. Of course, I'm curious of all the stories that you've covered in your career, none have been quite like this. So what is your takeaway on everything, How the NFL handled it, the players, the fans, a fundraising generosity, everything that encompassed the story, you know, Olivia. The other day I was on the

phone with one of Damar Hamlin's best friends. It's a guy he played high school football within Pittsburgh. His name is Rodney Thomas. He's now a safety with the Indianapolis Colts. And at the time I spoke to him, it was still very touch and go with Tamar. Nobody was really sure exactly how he was going to be, and I think he was still in the medically induced comy, was still heavily sedated. But there's a lot of optimism about it, a lot of positive signs. And so I said to

Rodney Thomas. We were talking about the fact that by this time he had whatever six million dollars for a toy fund for McKees Rocks Pennsylvania that originally he had hoped to raise dollars and I said, do you know that Tom Brady has donated ten thousand dollars to Damar Hamblin's fund. And Rodney Thomas just said, wait until he hears that. And you know, I think there is a lot you know, I was at the game on Sunday and there was an awful lot of there was an

awful lot of hope. And you know, as you guys know, we live in a very divisive time in our country, and at that time, one of the things that Sean McDermott told me after the game is that I really hope that a lot of people in our country, and positions of power and leadership in our country, can see what happens when everybody comes together and everybody is pulling for each other. And I thought that was a really

good thing for him. He had brought it up at his press conference, and so I interviewed him for Football Night in America for NBC and I asked him about it, and I found myself thinking that I think that's a

really important thing. I think that politically this is not going to bring anybody together, but I do think in a societal way, it could bring us closer together because we realize what happens if the first emotion, the first movement is going to be love and help and assistance, and I really hope that there's some of that that survives this period that kind of doubt it, but I

want to think positive. So those are a few thoughts I had, plus the fact that I just think that there are so many people who got some inspiration from Damar Hamlin and having nothing to do with the fact that it's probably a pretty good chance if he wants to that he can play football again. But it was it was different than that. Really, it's all about how a lot of people came together in hope and feeling

a lot better about themselves. And I think sports too, So I think there was a lot of positives that came out of it. Yeah, As someone who tries to not be on Twitter too much because we all know what sometimes those roads could lead to, it was really the first time in a long time, or the last time I can remember where that next morning, when I

was kind of getting ready, it really was Twitter. That was for the first time everyone agreeing and united on something and wanting to help and do everything they can, and everyone in agreement about how like no one should play that game. So I'm with you. I did find

myself bigging that the next day. I hope this just stays with us, so we don't move on so fast as we all do with everything changing, at least with the good parts, because I really did feel we were all pretty united for the first time in a long time on just him being well and getting better and the job everyone did to save his life. Yeah. I think the other part of this, too is that I think we now have some realization that, you know. I was talking to Klais Campbell of the Ravens the other day.

He's on the he's a big NFL p A guys, so he's a big union guy, and he was talking about how the union, and I applaud the union for this, they have pushed very, very hard for significant medical advances on the sidelines of games. And I was talking to Tom Mayer, the medical director for the nfl PA, on SAT.

Today night. I was a hotel in Buffalo, and we were talking a lot about this, and you know, I don't know how many people realize all of the resources that are available medically on the sidelines of NFL games, to the point that if you're going to get very very seriously injured, if you're going to be in a life threatening situation, it sounds stupid, incredible, gratuitous to say, but the best place to be is on a field

in an NFL stadium. And again, I know it sounds crazy, but if you've got three e m t s, you've got emergency medical technicians there, if you've got some great interness, if you've got some of the best people in the world at performing CPR, if you have actually, uh, someone who is available to put a breathing tube down your neck in a moment's note us, I know all of that sounds a little bit graphic, but and this is

going to sound almost unfeeling, but it isn't. I think the upset would be if DeMar Hamlin died because the ability to keep someone alive who whose heart had stopped but otherwise an incredibly healthy person. You know, Mike Ryan whose NBC's medical analysts medicine sports medicine analyst. He told me that in Florida, he lives down near Jacksonville, and in Jacksonville this year there was a high school across player who got hit in the chest with a ball

thrown at high speed and his heart stopped. And so at that moment, if someone performed CPR and this player was back on the field in five weeks playing lacrosse. So and that is at a high school, the cross game in Florida. So and I'm not trying to to not say that what happened to Tamar Hamblin wasn't life and death. It was. But the fact is, there's an awful lot of stories right now about the ability to bring people back like nothing ever happened. So, you know,

and we'll see what happens with tomorrow. I don't know if he's going to play football again. I I don't think there would be anything to stop him from doing so. And I'm not trying to minimize what happened, but I just believe the upset would have been if he if he didn't make it. You went to the Bills Patriots game. He mentioned after the game you got to interview nine Hines after he returned the opening kickoff yards for a touchdown, then again in the third quarter. He wrote about it

so beautifully. I would love if you could kind of recap his relationship with themar and how that was so poignant at such a time. You know, sometimes Olivia, you go to these games and I mean, shoot, that was like a conference championship game in the number of media, how it was covered what happened. So my job always, I feel I want to find out things that nobody else knows. That's just my goal. It always has been.

And the one thing I found out here that was really almost just touching is nai Heinz got traded to the Buffalo Bills from Indianapolis at the trading deadline, which was two months ago, two months and a week ago, and he didn't know people in Buffalo, and so when he reported to the Bills, you know, and just was shaking hands with people, getting to know Sean McDermott and every everybody. He was in the hot tub at the Bills and this guy walks up to him and he goes, Hey,

I'm DeMar hamm and I'm a safety here. So I wanted to say hi, and you know, welcome to the team and all that stuff, and he said, so he was one of the first guys to introduce himself. And then every day he came up to me and he said you're gonna break one. I can feel it, you are going to break one. And they formed this little thing where he would say to them every week they'd be preparing for a game, they'd say, this is the week, bro,

this is it, this is it. And so I thought it was really cool that the week before he got hurt that DeMar Hamlin said to him they had this little saying among them, among the two of them, hashtag free hinds, which is, you know, they said it to each other all the time, like you are going to score a touchdown this week. So he said it to him before the Cincinnati game. Hey, hashtag free hins. So obviously he didn't say it to him last week, but he told me that he's lined up to receive the kickoff,

and he was thinking basically of two things. One his buddy, Damar Hamlin, and two, I got to do something. I have to do something. I have to make something happen to make sure that we honor Damar in an appropriate way. And fourteen seconds later, he's got the most famous kick returned for touchdown, maybe in NFL history, but certainly in this season and certainly in Buffalo Bills history. I just

got goose bump. Sorry, just just hearing that because I'm thinking about and seeing that moment of just how they reacted. It really makes you think that you could a writer couldn't write it better in a script to open the game that way. And I encourage everyone to read that piece if you haven't read it already. Um, And obviously we're continued health and getting better for Damar Hamlin hopefully and uh maybe we'll be talking about him playing again.

I'm gonna move to something that's I won't say it's not as as you know, inspiring as that. But you know, the Monday after the NFL season, right, that's always like a day that, at least me as a fan, you start to see what really happens with coaches. We already saw what happened with Cliff Kingsbury, despite you know, signing his extension just ten months ago. I always find that strange, you know, you you extend someone and it doesn't even

last more than twelve calendar months. Well, Jerry, how about this. He not only signed the head coach, he signed the general manager. So I mean Steve Kim and Cliff Kingsbury are both signed for for a full four more seasons. So and look, there's no owner in the NFL who's looking for coins and the couch cushions too to make sure the business runs okay. But Michael Bidwill is not independently wealthy. And the Arizona Cardinals are one of those teams.

It's a family run franchise, and so he's got to pay off a couple of people, and who knows what his deal is with them. And you know, if Cliff Kingsbury gets a job somewhere, at least the money that he gets in his new place will be used to, you know, to take away some of the money the Cardinals own him. But be that as it may look, that was that was a bit of a lame brain way to run your business last offseason. And look at, you know, the guy who you really wanted. I'm not

even sure that. I'm not sure that Michael bidd Will really believed in Kyler Murray, but in essence he had to do something with him, especially after he does the coach in general manager. I'm a little dubious about that franchise. I mean, here, I'll tell you the amazing thing. How about this, Just imagine this, Okay, exactly thirteen months ago, the Arizona car Ardinals were ten and two when they were the number one seed in the NFC. Wow. Since

that moment, they are five and eighteen. Mm hm. They've got the worst record in the NFC since that moment. And so you ask yourself after a little while, you just ask yourself what happened, what happened exactly? And the way they ended last year too, and Kyler Murray playing such a lousy game in the playoff game against the Rams. I don't know. I'm gonna segue to one thing. And it's a point I made my column this week. If you think about it, Okay, if you're the Baltimore Ravens

right now, you have to answer this question. Lamar Jackson in each of the last two years has missed five and three quarters games because of injury. He was hurt in the first quarter of two games and then also missed five. So Lamar Jackson has missed one third of the season in each of the last two years. And you have to ask yourself this question. This is the guy who makes his business, you know, is is living with his legs, you know, as well as his arm.

But he does an awful lot with his legs. Okay, and yeah, and you really mean, do you want to pay him forty five million a year for the next five years? I don't. And if I were the Ravens, quite honestly, if I were Eric Acosta the GM, I'd franchise tag him and just say we hope that you are a quarterback for the next ten years. We can't do this, we can't sign you. And so now the question is, is there a team out there, the New

York Jets, the Washington Commanders, the Houston Texans. Is there a team out there that, if he gets franchised, would pay him a boatload of money, let's say forty five million a year, and would be willing to give up to number one draft picks for him. That would be one of the riskiest moves in years in the NFL. But honestly, if I were the Ravens, that's probably what I do. Going back to the Cliff Kings very part

of all this. Real quick, do you think the pipeline of coaches from college that the NFL is drying up? We saw Matt Rule was fired this season. Now, Cliff, I mean, it seems like the game is not translating, not that Cliff was very successful at the college level. Anyway, He's got to say that. I'll give you my just my gut feeling on this. Okay, if you look at where college coaches have bombed out, you will see that either A they have a very sketchy quarterback situation or

be their quarterback did not perform consistently very well. I think Cliff Kingsbury had another problem, and that is communicating with players and with his coaches. You know, the one thing that I've heard about Kingsbury is that he's a very, very poor communicator, and you just can't be that way as a head coach in the NFL. And he had the quarterback he wanted. And it is mind boggling to me, mind boggling that in a span of twenty three games that you can lose eighteen of them, most of which

Kyler Murray played. So I don't think it says that much. I've read all these stories. Don't hire a college coach. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you go back to Chip Kelly. He didn't work. I get it, I know, but I think a great coach is a great coach. And and look, I and I don't mean this in a negative way either.

I'm not sure i'd hired Jim Harbaugh period because he's sort of an imperious guy, and I'm not sure that, especially when times get tough, tough, if they're really going to enjoy here and to win one for the Gipper speech. So I don't know about that, but I still think Olivia a smart coach, is a smart coach. There is something I would love your opinion on because this, you know,

I mentioned before everyone sort of agreeing on Twitter. This is something that I've found myself like in some fun little battles over and I'm I'm gonna agree with you about the Lamar Jackson with the Jets. I'm a Giants fan from New York, so a lot of my I grew up a lot of Jacks fans. They always think they're one piece of way from being really good. This year, they actually might might have been true. They might have been a decent quarter back away from being in the playoffs.

I look at that Lion situation. I've been saying for a few weeks now. You know, I don't know if you want to give golf an extend them forty million, but to me, just as a fan, watching that team plays hard for him. He has great chemistry with the receivers. I don't know. Maybe st. Brown would have been a good receiver no matter what. But it just seems to be working. And they have such good draft picks, like and some people on tours like they got a draft

a quarterback. To me, I think that they're a lot closer than that and could build further. I guess if you're if you were running Detroit or in Detroit, how do you handle that golf situation? Now? Having the sixth pick and I guess it's sixteen or seventeen overall, it just thick that they're real close with those picks now. Absolutely, unequivocally, I'm not drafting a quarterback makes no sense. Last nine games of this season Detroit Lions seven and two, Jared

Goff fifteen touchdowns, zero interceptions. It's insanity to draft a quarterback. What you do, I think with golf is you basically say, listen, we want you. He's got two years left on his contract that he signed with the Rams. Okay, he's been wildly, vastly overpaid for the first whatever three years of it. All right, so let's just see right now, let's just see the first four years of it. But let's just see. You know, his cap number in twenty three is I

think thirty points seven. His cap number in twenty four is thirty one point seven. But just look at it this way. Wait until next offseason when you have complete knowledge of whether golf is your quarterback in the future, and this year, continue to build an incredibly strong roster. We're seeing it right now. You saw it with the Jacksonville Jaguars. And on defense, you see the pieces in place of a rising, growing team right now. You saw Josh Allen wreck the game the other day. You know

the other Josh Allen, the defensive Josh d Allen. And so just if I were Detroit, you've got two picks in the top half of the round or or almost I think that's our top eighteen or something. You've got two picks. Just use that to continually build a great roster. Brad Holmes the GM, he's a smart guy. I don't think he's going to be tempted to take a quarterback this offseason. Now, let's stick with NFC North quarterbacks for a second, because maybe one that is a bit more controversial.

Aaron Rodgers again, that's my team. I would love to see a good year from Aaron Rodgers. I don't want him to stick around just to stick around. Now do you think that the hype that he left week eighteen with, and the postgame press conference and the keeping his jersey all of it, do you think it's just to keep us on our toes? And one do you think is next for Aaron Rodgers? All I know is this, Olivia.

Aaron Rodgers loves taking a needle, and he loves to take a needle and stick it in the collective ice socket of the media as a whole. He loves that. And my first thought when ten minutes after the game, we've learned two things, he told Jamal Williams, I'm not giving you my jersey, but he put his arm around Randall Cobb's shoulder walking off the field, nine thousand cameras in front of him, snapping every picture, everybody doing video of it. I just said, Aaron Rodgers, And look, I

might be wrong, because I don't know. It's just what I thought. Aaron Rodgers. Maybe he knows what he's gonna do, maybe doesn't know what he's going to do, But how great is it for him to give off this aura of I am walking off the field for the last time. And then now, Olivia, you were about three years old when this happened. But in two thousand eighty, in two thousand eight, remember when Brett Farve in March basically retired

even though he really didn't want to. And then two much I shouldn't say he didn't want to, he didn't know if he wanted to, and then two months later he comes back. And what I will never forget about that never forget is how Farve just simply wasn't ready to make a decision and they made him make one. I don't think Brian Gudkins and Matt Lafleur are going to make him do that. I think they'll say, we'd like to know by pick a date June. That's when we need to know. No, that's when we want to know.

And look, I might be wrong, but whatever he's going to make next year would make fifty million. It's hard for me to believe, especially with two young receivers who I think he sees a bright future for both of them. You know, he'll be able to come back and ride out on his white horse if he just wants to play one more year, but this just seems a weird year for him to go out on him. I don't know, Olivia, and I don't I know. I mean, I know Aaron I talked to him, but I don't know him at all,

So it's just that's just my guess. I don't know if anyone really knows him. He did say that the money doesn't matter and he would walk away. I gotta think with the Brett five story and the Aaron Rodgers story, the one common denominator is they're the only NFL team no owner, and maybe when there's not that one person you report to, it gives that player all that much more freedom when you're in this teeny tiny town and

you're basically the pope there. I mean, but you know what, hey, Olivia, remember in two thousand eight, Ted Thompson was the potent tape he was he was making those decisions. Mike McCarthy was a young head coach at the time, and I will never forget, Olivia. I sat in Brett Farve's house in Hattiesburg, Mississippi. Yeah, I did, on the Saturday night before he ended up going back to Green Bay and trying kind of in a nice way to force the issue.

And I remember on that Saturday night, his agent, Buzz Cook was also in the house. It was him, Deanna, his wife, and and Buzz Cook and me, And he asked Buzz what he thought, and he goes, oh, they'll cave, They'll I'll give in to you, because he Brett wanted to be released and go play for the Vikings. And and he said, Peter, what do you think? And I said, hey,

I don't know. He said, all I know is that I was on the phone with Ted Thompson and McCarthy the other day and I just want you to know that if Ted Thompson releases you, you're gonna sign with Minnesota. Ted Thompson will be hung in ashwabin On. I mean he won't be able to show his face in this town. I mean, I'm serious. And and I said you, if I were you, I would say, Okay, which team would I be okay playing for? I may not love it,

but which team would I be okay playing for? And then the Jets are the Bucks and then really play and try to stick it up their rear end. And that's essentially what he ended up doing. He played one year with the Jets, and then two with the Vikings and for all those people. I remember at the time, Oh my god, Farve will never be able to go back in town because he was in the Purple and all that stuff. I said, you know what, I remember seeing Jerry Rice at the end going hat in hand,

going to try out for every team he could. Oh my god, he's ruining his legacies. This, that and the other thing. Jerry Rice walks on the field at a forty Niners game now and people genuflect, they absolutely love him. And it's the same thing with Five. I always knew, and look this latest thing, who knows what will happen, But I always knew that five would be able to go back and people would love him because of what

he accomplished on the field. I know. We got to get you going, Peter, and thank you so much for a time. Last quick thing before you go. Is there any team underdog going into this weekend that you see has a chance to maybe pull an upset? A chance? I'm not saying make a prediction, a chance the best Well, the question is, I don't know what the and I know I should know the odds being on this podcast, but I don't know what they're like. Look, I don't.

I don't think that the Ravens, even with Lamar, who certainly won't be I don't see the Ravens going into Cincinnati and winning that game. I can definitely see Dallas going in and winning in Tampa, but I think that's really a coin flip because the Cowboys every other week in the last month they have stunk it up. So you tell me who's going to show up Monday night in Tampa. I kind of like the Jaguars to beat the Chargers, but is that really an upset? I don't know.

End the one team, even though it seems odd to say this, Seattle knows the forty Niners so well, and they've played them every ten minutes. It see, you're always looking up, and it seems like once a month Seattle and the Niners are playing, and they've got this history and Pete Carroll knows that franchise. I don't think Seattle is gonna win that game. But that is the game of every game this weekend. That probably intrigues me the most. And don't you find it weird, honestly, how the NFL

scheduled these games. It's the first game that Seahawks Niners the first one up in Santa Clara, California. It'll be on a muddy track probably with all the white rain on the West Coast right now. And the forty Niners. To me, I mean, if you ask me right now, give me your power rankings. Top two teams in the league to me are the forty Niners and the Bengals. And the forty Niners are a two seed and they've got the They've got the first game of the weekend

at four thirty on Saturday afternoon. This is the game that's regularly reserved for Jackson Bailey Houston, you know, I mean, and it's the forty Niners. And I kept thinking to myself, this is such a weird thing to me. And then how about on Sunday the first game is the Bills. You know, they're like the New America's team with Damar Hamlin. And I just I don't know the scheduling this week. And first of all, there's no game that is absolutely

must see. There just isn't. But I think the whole thing is it's just, uh, it's gonna be an odd weekend. Some will happen, two or three good things will happen to make it fun. But it's just an odd collection to me of six games where the only real million people watching the game I think is Dallas and Tampa because look, you know, if the Dallas Cowboys were on TV painting a house, you to get a crowd, to get an audience, and twenty million, so they're going to

get a huge number for that game. Plus it could be Brady's last game. But even that, the Cowboys have been crappy and the Bucks every other week just lay a gigantic egg. I don't know. I mean, who knows. It could be a fantastic game, but that's probably the game of the weekend and we're gonna have to wait a long time for it. Peter King, thank you so much.

We have taken up too much of your time. You have stories galore, and we'd love to get you back on here because we just barely scratched the surface anytime. Olivia really appreciated. Good being on me to Jerry. Thank you great, great having you. Peter, thank you again. Well, I've been very busy doing my homework, Garry. I have been binging Entourage. I finished season five finally and started

season six. I'm like really in the weeds. Like when I think about the hours I've spent watching this show, it has been such a treat. Like I've told you before, I'm so late to the party. One thing that Hugh told me was going to happen in season six is all of a sudden, you start morphine into the Jerry that looks more like I see now, Like you get really skinny in episode one of season six. Yeah, that's the thing with and that's how HBO kind of moved

back then. I think they still moved like that. Similarly, there was always a pretty good break in between seasons, right, sometimes upward of like eight months, depending on how long things took or got pushed back. So think about what you could do in eight minutes. So towards the end of season five, I started to get all my little fitness journey, and because I just turned thirty years old,

I wanted to just really start to feel better. And then I had eight months off and didn't work a ton in those eight months, and yeah, I lost like forty five pounds. Forty five pounds, and is it going to keep falling off? Every episode? I mean, by season seven, they start making skinny jokes about me, Okay, so far no one's addressed it, like it's not in the dialogue at all. Yeah, it's not. Again, I think at this point I think maybe you're early on season six, I

think I was maybe like twenty five down. So by the end of season six, I think I'm I lose like forty five and then coming back to season seven, it was a clean sixty. Season seven, I think I was or maybe it's eight. I don't even remember. I was like at four pounds. A character on the show I'm loving at this stage of the show is your mom. And I'm curious how much of the hometown that you guys go back to the neighborhood you guys are in and your mom's Vince's mom and your mom who are

really great character is great color. I'm curious how similar that is to where you actually grew up in the situation, Like is that how your mom talks? So you know, I remember back then the actress Camio Savola, who was amazing, who played my mom. She did recently or maybe within the last few years. I know she passed away unfortunately, but she was like on Broadway. She was like a real deal baller actress. I do remember my mom wanted to play the part of my mom, and this was

like the joke. I didn't actually like she did an audition, but I gave like I would protect, like we'd practice it. And let's just say, I don't think I get my acting ability from my mom. Let's just say that. So my mom, if you ask her about that, she jokingly doesn't think the performance is authentic at all and thinks

she would have been way better. Doug did a really good job, Doug Ellen, capturing I grew up in Brooklyn, but that part of Queen's where you know, it was a real community, just walking each other's houses, and my friend's parents were allowed to like discipline me if they caught me acting up when I was a kid. Like the whole neighborhood really kept an eye out on each other,

so very very close to what I grew up. Like now, a part of this whole thing, when you guys go back to New York in your home is a phone sex scene. What your mom interrupts and yells. And I was just thinking, my god, to uh to see that written and read it in the table, read to then rehearse it and do the scene and then have your parents watch it. I mean, walk me through this, because

that's very awkward. I imagine listen. I think in total with Entourage, I had like two or three sort of either like sex scenes or just kind of like hook up scenes at first. Of all the worst they are the worst. I'm sorry. Whatever you think out there listening like I must be. It is not cool. It's not fun. It's not like it's stressful, and you just wanted to

be over quickly. And luckily for me, I that was that was not something like you see the amount of stuff Adrian would have to do played Vince versus me, I didn't really have to worry, but of course you started getting in more shaped and all of a sudden you're a love interest and now you have to do that stuff more. It always was rough watching all those

scenes at the premiere with our families. Fortunately, the one you're talking about, the phone call one like, yeah, it wasn't my favorite, but at least it was on the phone. No one else was there. I didn't have to worry about how my breath smells or anything like that, but terrified, like if I never had to do one of those scenes for the rest of my career. I would be like, great, sign me up, and what do I have to do to not do that again? When you get married, do

you and your spouse have rules about that? You know, my wife isn't isn't actress as well, So I mean there's no rules, like but there is obviously like like yeah, like you just the rule is the same way you'd be with your other co star, like just it's just gonna be as professional as possible. Again, there's dozens and dozens of people around watching, Uh so like yeah, I don't.

I don't think we have rules, but I guess the rule would be just like don't hide it, like you know, if you have to go do a scene like that, help me leave that party out of the description, like hey, yeah, this cool movie where I'm a cop and I jump over a car and I shoot people that. Oh yeah, and there's this like giant like crazy sexy and I'm in don't leave that part out, I would say, is

the rule don't surprise them with that. I've always wondered that about acting and if it's about and that actually comes up in Entraage with Ari and his wife when she come back to do what days of our lives or something. Okay, last question at where I'm at. You guys go on Leno or Vince goes on Leno, and you guys all know there. How do you do that? Because that's actually in a couple of movies, whether it's

Balin or whoever. Like these guys who host these late night talk shows, they clearly are open to doing this, and I'm always curious do they do it like right before their actual taping of their show, so that the audience is there? How do you how do you do that? Yeah? So the first time we ever really did it, and in my opinion, it was like I think of the early early episodes, it was the episode that I think

everyone figured out this is what the show is. If you remember in season one we all go on Vince goes on the Jimmy Kimmel Show. This was like season one of Jimmy Kimmel. He has now been on for like twenty five years or whatever. This was so early on and with that we film right before. And I think similarly with Leno, Yeah, you either go because they taped those shows at three o'clock in the afternoon, you know, and and the audience is in, so I either think

it was. I think it was probably after their show because they want to keep the studio audience there as well. And then you just run in and do your thing. Your goal with that is to be at least intrusive

as possible. So because everyone's there working, Like imagine if someone came right now like, hey, we're gonna do this other show on your podcast real quick, give me your mis will be done in a half hour, it's like all right, but yeah, Jay was great that day and he was super down to play around and have fun with it, and yeah, we'll just hung out at the at the tonight show for you know, two hours. I love it and I love the evolution of Turtle. It's

such a joy to watch. And again I watched with my baby and I'm like, look, there's uncle Jerry having fun sex. Yeah as uncle Jerry. Yeah, you got some more fun stuff coming up with season season six in the category of what you were talking about, like significant other having to do some racing scenes. That comes up more. I don't think you've gotten to that yet. Oh yeah,

so stay tuned, all right. Now that the regular season is over, it's onto the playoffs, which is going to make this part of the show, even more of my favorite part because it's the playoffs and let's let's keep making money and let's bring in our odds on favorite bet MGM betting analyst Peter Andrew. First time I'm talking to you in Happy New Year, buddy. How has been treating you so far? Betting wise? Yeah? So, uh NFL has been great so far. I had a great last week.

I cashed in on a couple of big props. Week eighteen is the big prop week because everybody's trying to hit that number, get that extra incentive and that bonus. And I think specifically I got lucky with the Dolphins covering because that late safety, and then I had Niners big they blew out Cardinals out of the wall or so.

So it was good there. But to wrap up the night of I was with our friend Olivia here in London on New Year's even I think we just lost every single college bet so College Semifinals, National Championship on Monday. We just we lost them all. So we're in a we're in a dark spot right now. It seems like I say, it's a little bit of money by not coming on that trip, between air fare and what I

would have lost betting with you and Peter. I feel like I saved myself a little money not being in London for New Year's and the drink tab well that that would have definitely not paid for. I would have tried to get out of our We're not far away from Arizona though, so don't count yourself out yet. There's still money to be lost or made in a couple of weeks. All right. Before we get into it too, I just want to point out you are wearing a

very fancy Durrell hat for our golfers out there. You played durraw right, which is of course it is a dream course. I've been dying to play Durrell. Also, I will point out golf really fun sport to bet on. I had some golf bets over the weekend that I lost. We will talk about that. How did you play a draw? Real quick? So I shot well relative ninety four there

from the blues, which is eight hundred yards. It's off course and on your golf point of betting, we've got some fun stuff from the golf angles, so lots to talk about as the season starts to kick off, as we get towards the players in March. We're gonna have some really cool stuff for you guys on Betam Jim. If you haven't even just just start looking. I know it's early in the golf season, now just start taking the loo because as you get closer to the majors,

it gets really fun. But we're gonna We're gonna go into now something we know is proven and true to be fun, which is betting on the NFL Playoffs in the Divisional Round. So, Peter Andrew, what are you thinking for this Divisional Round week? Yeah? So I got three bets. I'll start with the simplest one. First, Bengals minus six and a half. I think Bengals are peaking at the right time. They look amazing, and you've got a Ravens

team that's really interesting right now. Lamar should be back this weekend Sunday Night Football, but he's coming back missing over a month, a lot of questions, Dobbin's health, Mark Andrews, a lot of guys on the defensive side. I just don't know where we're gonna get out of them. So I'm taking the points six and a half Bengals. I think they're in cruise control this first game. To me, They're one of the four best teams probably in the NFL,

so I like them there to cover. I've got four units, so forty dollars to win, seventy six dollars there to cover that spread. That's first off. I don't know, Jerry, where's your head at? There? As an Ohio better now now that we're live in bet MGM and in the great state Ohio. Oh and let me tell you, let me tell you bet MGM, you got Ohio. I was at a poker game this week. A lot of bad

Browns takes. I think a lot of Brown's bands, like the Browns are beating the Steelers this week when we've been betting them on bet MGM while we were playing poker, I'm like, that's a terrible bet. The Browns are not beating the Steelers. But uh, I'm with you. I think Cincinnati. I you know, I always get nervous with harbas a coach because he's so gritty and that team is gritty. But I just don't think you could bet on Baltimore.

So if you are gonna put some acts on the game, I just think it has to sway in the Bengals way. And I think that no, I would love it a lot more at six, but six and a half I still think seven and over is a good number. So I'm with you on that. And for you to win seventies six is is sweet. Yeah. Absolutely, So that's four you and it's there. You've got six left. Cool, so little home cooking for each, for each of us, for me and for you here first, I'll start with me.

Niners four thirty game Eastern on Saturday against the Seahawks, against your Seahawks. Niners are one of those teams. I don't even want to say they're peaking right now. They've won ten in a all, they've been peeking. It doesn't matter. Brock Purdy, Trey Lance, Jimmy g I mean, the team is just so well rounded. I think what you're seeing them with Brock Purdy, he's developed really good kind of

one in two options with McCaffrey and Kittle. Kittle was played probably as good as Travis Kelsey these last four or five games with Purdy, you know, behind center. So I've got both of them to score in any time touchdown. So both McCaffrey Kittle, I got Niners on an all spread, mind a six and a half just to buy myself a couple of points there from the time that it currently is and then over forty two and a half points.

I mean, you saw what the Niners it to the Cardinals last week, thirty eight points I think within three quarters. Then they brought in all their backups. That offense is legit, obviously, that defense is legit. Defensive Player of the Year Nick Bosa. I think it's been taken down on most books now because it's pretty much a lock. You've got a team that just can do everything right. I think they come through this round looking really good, and there they'll be

focused on divisional round pretty shortly. And a couple of things and maybe this is I'm sorry, no one was on Seattle more than I have been this year. What do you think that spread is? Right now? You have the all spread, but right now it's nine ers us nine and minus nine and a half. What do you think that spread is if it was the Lions rolling into town, I have it at like six and a half. Yeah, I think probably for Lions and Packers, you're probably looking

at something similar around there. But with the Hawks where they're at, yeah, it's probably three point and and last thing on your Kiddle anytime to the one like, say what you want about Brock Purty, Deniers won the Super Bowl. Brock Purty is undefeated and it's Super Bowl champion. That would be unprecedented to say he would be an undefeated Super Bowl champion rookie quarterback. But also the one thing he has done that for some reason, Jimmy g was not able to do. And maybe it's not his fault.

He unlocked Kittle whatever it was, or maybe Kittle got healthy at the right time. But whatever it is, say what you want about brock Party. He knows he has instant chemistry with George Kittle. Maybe that's not that hard because Kittle is great. So I like that best. That's what thirty to units there. Yep, okay, love it and you got you got three remaining a little bit of

dog parlay. Here two teams that I think very well could win this weekend Jags at home against the Chargers, and then you're New York Football Giants going into Minnesota. I am not buying this Minnesota team right now. They are the worst defense in the league. Giants are kind of clicking at the right time. Outside of just Daniel Jones and s Kwon, Slayton, Richie James JR. Hodgens. I think you know they are not one A wide receivers. They're all finding ways to win and finding ways to

to contribute into their offense. I think they're gonna put up points, and I think Vikings are gonna have to put up thirty points for this to be a game. It's probably a close one. I wouldn't say the Giants are gonna blaw him out or I don't think the Vikings can either. But I think it's gonna come down to the fourth quarter and who just makes that last play to win the game. As it goes for the Jags,

you're finally seeing a college playoff. Trevor Lawrence. He is the top five, top seven quarterback this year just performance metrics. He's played really well. He's running the ball. I think his one fault has probably just gotta keep the ball and not fumble it. I think he has nine fumbles this year, which is concerning. But a Chargers team that seems very inconsistent. Some weeks, they look like they can put up thirty five at will, and often times they're

putting up two touchdowns. So I like Jags at home I just I think this is a really important game for them, probably their first home playoff game and probably five six years since they lost the Pats a couple of years ago, since Mark Brunel. Oh no, yeah, I think Blake boards out a home playoff game, right. I think it's that board right before they lost the Paths

and then if the championship. But but I think it's a important game for them, and and the Chargers just are not who we thought they were, probably early in the season when we all we were doing is bragging about the a f C West So and Olivia jump in here, go ahead, get in Olivia. Well, I was curious what you're gonna say about Charges Jags, because this

one I could see going either way. I mean, Jacks such a good story right on the rise, great for Doug Peterson after all the drama turmoil, they finished on a five game win streak, defense much better. Chargers make me a little bit nervous with, you know, playing their starters in that final game where it didn't feel like they had too as long as they did. I think that was a little controversial, and I mean Jacksonville, I

feel like it's kind of played it smart. Winning the a f C South and invested in the right positions like the receiving corps, Christian kirk Za Jones. They made really smart offseason moves, and um, I just can't believe we're talking about Jacksonville right now. You know, listen to

further that point. Olivia too, I was gonna say what the Jags don't I'm not getting old by the fact that they almost lost two Dobbs and the Titans, because to me, in a win and you're in game, Rabel is one of the few coaches I wouldn't want to see in that scenario. I think Vrabel as a coach and how he talks to that team gets that you have to kill them to win. And I think that's what the Jaguars did. They want That is a tough, tough game to win, because of the coach, because of

those players. So I don't sleep on that win. Even though they escaped with a win, that's not the right word. I think you have to kill the Titans to end their season. So I feel good about the Jacks too. I don't like that the Giants are now like a thing and people are talking don't sleep on Kenny Golladay caught a late touchdown in that game. Nothing would be more deble ish than if he just put Kenny Golladay on the bench because he had the wrong attitude and

now he's gonna unleash him in the playoffs. That that's my unleashed unleashed Kenny Golladay. Please eighteen million a year, unleash him. I saw tweet he needed to get his like bonus, it's brilliant. But yeah, I hear you. And I think the Giants are a hot pick this week because where they've kind of gone and starters, I mean no starters played basically the other day and they looked really good versus an Eagles team that was playing everybody. But but I think it's more about the Vikings. I

think they just cannot stop a nosebleed on defense. I mean we've seen it multiple times where they're given up thirty plus points. Giants are clicking at the right time and back just last point on on the Jags. I think beating the Titans is a playoff type win where it's a gritty win. They played awful in the first half the Jags, but their defense is no joke and they kept they kept Titans pretty in check in the second half, and that's ultimately how they were able to win.

So so you're starting to see the playoff football week before they started, and I think they they hopefully continue that going into this week. Did we give the odds on that you have that three units? That's what three thirty to win one thirty eight? Right? Yeah? Sorry, so thirty to win one thirty eight. There so a nice little hefty pay out. There's both technically underdogs. I think the Jags are probably minus one of five, it's basically a pick him right now, and the Giants being plus three.

It's a decent plus one and change. So yeah, thirty two eight. There's gotta be some dogs winning somewhere, and I don't see it in these massive spread games. I don't see the Dolphins coming close to the Bills, don't see the Seahawks coming close to the Niners. A lot of question marks around teams that probably aren't built for the playoffs. Do you see it with our one playoff home dog? Because I might see a little something there

are one playoff home dog, Tampa Bay. I just I'm gonna have a little sprinkle, a little sprinkle on Tampa Bay. Just maybe to make that game a little more interesting than it might be. Yeah, I think Dallas is probably on the downfall at the wrong time, So I like Tampa there. That was one I was considering putting in the picks. Dallas looks strange right now, but then against so does Tampa. I mean Dallas could win by forty Campa could win by tampas the strangest. I think Tampa

is the strangest. The strangest, uh relatively good team or some playoff team. I should say there's a lot of stranger teams at the bottom that could beat anyone, Olivia, anything else. On this play. I think you've got a good card, Pete. I might emulate a lot from this card. I want to wish everyone good luck in the divisional round. It's time to playoff. Like, grow your playoff beer, do your playoff hair, get your seat, whatever you gotta wear,

whatever you do. That's, you know, a little superstitious. It's time for such superstitions. Do you have a specific playoff jersey, regardless you're rocking it. I am so weird about this. I do not rock my team's color and logos on game day. I just it's never work when if I wear a Giant shirt, they lose. If I wear a Knick shirt, they lose. So I actually have worn opposite like if we're if I swear more with basketball, but like I've worn Eagle socks when the Giants are playing

the Eagle. I I don't. Something weird happens when I rock my team colors. It does not work out for me. Will you assume Niners make the Super Bowl? Will you rock und red for me? No? Absolutely not, kind of respect that incident. I mean, you don't need like, what do you need it? I'll rock red because they'll be playing the Chiefs again, so I'll wear some red. That's uh, that's I think that's the matchup. I don't think anybody's beating the Chiefs. So all right, well, good luck Pete.

Thanks for uh yeah, I like your car. Thanks for three. Now let's let's get off on the right foot. Here now is where it counts. So thank you, Peter, Andrew and Olivia. I think that's gonna do it for us on this amazing divisional round that we have going in. Good luck to you. Just look at the divisional round. I'm not saying you have to go in. I know you said you might wait for the super Bowl, but just just peruse, give it a look, and then we'll

get us ready for the super Bowl. The one that has my attention right now, after we've talked more about it, is Bill's Dolphins and Peter. Just to catch you up. Earlier, Jerry was saying, take it now before the number goes up. I think right now it's at ten. Taking the bills to cover it is now ten and a half and half, and there's I mean, there's what a ten percent chance that to have starts if it's Skyler Thompson or Petty two Gloves. Okay, all right, see him back in already

I thought she's back in. It's like losing I know. Also I think everyone else is back in. And don't forget to subscribe to the bed MGM at least podcast YouTube page where you could see our lovely mugs and watch this all happen in front of you and in you know, in visual form. We are visual people. At times, I don't even know what to do with myself at the playoffs here week eighteen too many weeks. So let's get to the good stuff. Thank you everyone for listening.

Shout outs to our other podcast guests who be here with you, Olivia, best guests we've ever had. I was gonna say, this is one of those times I think a lot of people with kids can understand where you're just trying to make it work, and I have an eight month old dictators just kind of messing up our whole show right now. So if you are watching, you've probably noticed me looking down at the floor and trying to pull things out of his hands the whole time.

But yeah, my little babies is doing as a live studio audience at all. It was an amazing performance, uh, and hopefully you'll have an amazing performance this weekend. Good luck everybody, and we will catch you next week. H