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Lafleura Kyle Shanahan drive by handshake that was painful. The defending Super Bowl champion Buccaneers and Tom Brady returned to New England to take on the Patriots. Honest, do you think Tom Brady will get big booze or big applause, huge applause? I mean, even the mass holes aren't gonna dame to cheer there. And look, don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of New England fans. I think there's some of the most disrespectful. We have a big rivalry with them in baseball. But you're talking about a guy

who was the King of New England returning home. It's like John Snow coming back from war at the Wall. This is gonna be This will be one of the biggest ovations we've heard in sports history. I hope you're right. I think you're right. I've gone back and thought a little bit about other situations that are similar. Although I don't know if it gets bigger than this, and maybe

this is just us being American NFL crazy people. But some examples that are kind of similar are Lebron James returning to Cleveland after he left, you know, the decision going to Miami so dramatic. He got booed coming back to cavil leears. But not only that, they made it a whole thing. The mascot wore a bulletproof vest. Uh, you know, the the GM and the owner were shown

on the big screen walking to their seats. So I think it kind of depends on the way the team handles it right, the way they kind of play it up. I don't think the Patriots are going to have that much fun with it. Brett far if I remember this one, returning to Lambeau as a Viking, he was greeted with booze at the then largest crowd to ever be at lambou Field Vikings one. He threw four touchdowns. He was fantastic. That was two thousand nine. Bryce Harper coming home to Washington,

he was greeted with booze. But then here's one honest that. I was like, Okay, maybe there's hope and maybe this will happen to Brady, Christiano Ronaldo returning and Man United. It was a huge spectacle. In fact, they even changed the way they announced the visiting team. They made his name last. They said, you know, the great one of our favorites. Blah blah blah, huge dandy innovation, roaring applause. So maybe, all right, do you think Brady will get

something like that? I think Belichick doesn't want to give Brady any extra motivation, so I wouldn't be surprised to see some type of like you said, changing the intro, giving him something special on the big screen. I mean, the difference between uh FARV and all these examples that you gave returning home is six six ranks. So New England is very appreciative of the great Tommy terrific. I think it's gonna be a big ovation, just like Eli Manning got that you know, I was crying. I cried.

I cried, Yeah, I cried when he came out. He got that and they retired his number. The great Eli, the only quarterback to take town. I like to call him Eli Manning or Tom Brady Kryptonite is what I like to call him. Okay. Also, I think the difference with Brett Farve is Brett chose to leave. The Packers wanted to get him as far away from the NFC as possible. They gave him to the Jets, and then he comes back to the Vikings in the division. That was just brutal. But with Brady and the Patriots, you

cannot forget it was a mutual split. The Patriots didn't want to give him that long of an extension. There had been some animosity between Belichick and Brady. I know, there's so much respect, but with you know, spy Gate, Brady had their back and with the flat Gate they didn't really have Brady's back, and there was some growing stuff there. In fact, he kind of turned away from Patriots way and being Patriots first. He really started branding himself later in his time in New England with TV

twelve and TV twelve method and I don't know. So I think for Patriots fans to think that Tom just left him that is that is ignorant because it was a mutual split. And Tom is having the sweetest revenge of all, continuing to play, having more fun, getting more of a tan. I think he has a last laugh. Yeah, and winning another winning another ring for sure. Yeah, this disrespect goes a little farther, you know, with Jimmy G. Like you know, you could obviously Belichick wanted Jimmy G

to be the guy. Then Brady kind of pushed him out. And yeah, I mean Brady would have continued playing if if I think Belichick didn't want to rebuild. So I think he's getting a warm welcome. Yeah. Well, coming up, we're gonna ask someone who knows way more than we do on the topic. It's former Patriots running back in Super Bowl Champ Shane Verein. He's going to join us. He'll tell us what's really going through Tom and coach his minds. I'm very curious he won a Super Bowl

with him. He knows all about the Patriot way. Plus we'll talk about it from a betting angle at the of the show with our good friend Pete Picks. Peter Andrew and wait until you hear what Janice has to unleash on this week. This is my favorite segment of the show. We'll get to that in just a second. Now, hopefully you want some money last weekend a lot of

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of bad beats, this week's punishment picks. I am officially the New York Jets. I'm owing three and I'm gonna to read the outro of the show again. Janice writes it. I don't get a preview it until I read it live. You know, I just blushed like crazy. I've read this and my ego has taken such a beating. I just I should be better. I should be doing better, and I think each week they get a little worse TVH. But that's at the end of the show. Okay, It's time for us to sound off on who and what

deserves it most in Unleashed, It's time to on leash. Yeah, time unleash Olivia. Let me tell you something right now. This has been bothering me for a long time, and I just have to give my personal opinion on this.

We saw this Sunday, Okay, a few games and in what I like to call anti climactic fashion, I've had enough of these converted soccer players coming in and winning or losing games on their foot, Okay, after they've been sitting on the sidelines just watching who knows, scrolling on Instagram, whatever they do over there. Then they come in and decide the fate of these men who have sacrificed their bodies and their their lives and their health and their will to try to win this. Some five ft eight

squeak comes on the field and wins it. And now we're seeing sixty six yard field goals. I mean, what's the point if you can score from your own side of the field. I mean, what's next a d r field goals? We gotta do something. If you're gonna get closer, they gotta pull it in a little closer. They gotta pull the field goal post in. It's gotta be tighter. We gotta make it a little bit harder for them to win because their connection, their connection rate is getting

to like it's like a short thing. Like I knew when the Packers had that chance, I knew they were gonna win fifty one yards. That's nothing. These days, I've had enough. Here's the deal. Maybe we do something like if the field goal kicker misses, the guys on a team get to uh, he's got to go through one of those where he goes through all their legs and they spank his butt, or we tie him to a

field goal post or something. There has to be some punishment, something more for field goal kicker if he loses the game for his team after they fought that hard. I've had enough of field goals. Get rid of them. I can't believe you say that's an anticlimactic way to win a game. I think that's the most dramatic a game ender can be. It's the most dramatic part is the drive by the quarterback and then this guy shells out

onto the field. No, because they're just trying to get to the little graphic on TV of the field goal target line, and once they're there, it relies on the foot of the kicker. I agree. I don't like a game where the kickers the leading scorer on his team, but I love a game that comes down to a kick. It's so exciting. How can you say it's not. I'm done with kickers. No more points after scorers. And what's the point of that? What are they like from there?

I mean, the point after scores should be from the fifty yard line from now on. Give it make a little more excited? Okay? Well, I also want to unleash about something in the NFL and it's rookie quarterbacks this year. Jannest We were talking about that this summer of all the great quarterbacks coming into this year's draft, now they're rookies. Trevor Lawrence, Szack Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Field, Mac Jones. It was the talk of the summer. Well, they've struggled

so far this season. In fact, they're one in ten against the spread, with the only win being mac Jones over Zack Wilson. And I think that says more about the Patriots and Mac Jones, to be honest. But in his first start, Justin Fields and the Bears offense managed only forty seven yards on Sunday, not exactly lighting the field on fire. But you know who else struggled the rookie season at quarterback. A couple of guys you might have heard of, Brett Farve, Peyton Manning, he said, a

rookie interception record, by the way, Troy Aikman. All went on to win Super Bowls. Most of the greats really got the luxury of waiting at least a year, usually behind another great quarterback in rookies used to be the norm because the pay structure was so wacky. Rookie quarterbacks were paid ridiculously high. Now the NFL p A limits rookie pay, but that doesn't mean they're not an investment.

Do you look at Rogers sitting three years behind far Brady, behind blood so Patrick Mahomes, behind Alex Smith, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Eli Manning. I mean, there's just so much to look at there, and that used to be the norm. So all I'm saying is the NFL is such a different game than college. It is so hard for these rookie quarterbacks. They have the way to the world on their shoulders. I just can't even imagine that feeling. No one is that good when they start anything, especially in

their professional industry. And you know, Janni's has kind of got me thinking, how are you and I when we started? So I I went back, I hit the YouTube up and I searched my co host Joanna's papas, and I found a couple of clips of yours that look very retcher. Um, you look very spelt. You were in a mock turtleneck. Do you know what clip I'm talking about. Yeah, it's the one where I look like I'm dressed like Arsenio Hall from the Arsenio Hall Show. I'm wearing a mock neck.

I'm not saying you were bad or anything, but you seemed a little nervous. Let's play at the tape. He's great, he's from His name is yes. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Um I just I just moved back from from d C and right represent, I mean, what you just watched. What happened was I was so nervous. I was so nervous when I got to stage. I couldn't feel my arms. I was having a panic attack, and I couldn't remember my act. It

was my first five minutes I ever wrote. So I just kept repeating thank you because I couldn't remember any jokes until I heard that first laugh, and then it all came back. And then yeah, it looks like I did okay, But that's because the crowd was filled all friends and family, so it was completely rigged. That just looks so nerve wracking. Oh yeah, I went on to bomb and I was a horrible comedian for the first couple of years. I did it. I mean, I was

absolutely atrocious. I love your Unleashed this week. I agree with it, especially in a game like football. Which requires so much maturity learning the plays. You know, getting a chance for the game is slowed down. I agree with you, Olivia, but you know, just to make the point further, we you know, we're always even. You find my clip, guess what I found yours? And this gave me endless joy. Let's look at a teenage Oh h d reporting live outside of some cupcake shop? I know what one this is?

Oh no, what sweeter way to start off your morning then with a cupcake? Hello, this is Olivia Harland with four South. I'm at the grand opening of GS Cupcakes on St. We've got mixed ninety three point three, a line out the door, and prizes every half hour. Let's head inside and talk to the owner, Sandy Fuller, to see what she's got cooking up today. Olivia, I have a question to ask you. First of all, were you always forty years old? I mean you're ara. During that interview,

I couldn't believe you were fifteen years old. I mean I thought I was watching a forty year old woman talking about cupcakes. Also, did you need to go to the bathroom? I mean, watch your legs crossed? See, people are gonna have to watch this to know what we're talking about. But now I was just a pageant robot at this stage in my career. Yeah, fifteen years old. It was my first thing ever on camera. And I showed my husband because I knew this was coming up,

and he said, is that your real voice? Like is that what you really talk like? And I just looked at him for a long time, like, what We've known each other five years, been married three and you think I have this hidden voice that I only reserve for cupcake openings, Like, what are you talking about? But no, I uh, I worked a lot on my voice and then you know, I'm what thirteen years older now, so

I definitely have matured. But yeah, watching that back, my first on camera ever, by the way I thought at the time, I killed it, and it's just so funny watching it. One part that we laughed at is I say, there's a line out the door and there's no one there. I just it is cringe e. But look all I'm saying, and thank you for bringing that up. I'm thoroughly embarrassed is that people evolved, they get better and you know, honest, I really think you were always good at comedy. That

first sketch was not bad at all. But these rookie quarterbacks are going to get better. We can't judge them based on a few starts. Not everyone is going to be like Justin Herbert and be great right off the bat. It doesn't happen overnight. And here's the other thing. If fans are demanding they play these rookie quarterbacks because they want to watch a good show, you know, they want to they want to talk about something they want to buy in New Jersey, forget it. You're you're just hurting them.

They're not going to be good right off the bat. It is so rare, and truly most of them are not ready. Wow, Olivia, I gotta say that was really good. I actually agree with that unleashed you know, knowing you, I thought you were gonna unleash on Biden sloppy withdrawal from Afghanistan. But that was a good one. God, let's

get to talking more football, shall we. Let's bring in our guest, Shane Verreeen, former NFL running back with the New York Giants and the New England Patriots, where he became a Super Bowl champ with his eleven catch performance against the Seattle Seahawks in Super Bowl. For I always have to look up the Roman numerals and google. If I'm gonna be honest, you know that that's forty nine. Shane Maren is here, Shane, how are you. I'm doing fantastic.

How are you guys? We're good. Does that intro ever get old when you hear Super Bowl champ Like, what comes to mind? Does a player come to mind a moment? Yeah, it doesn't really get old because a lot of the times, you know, I don't really think about it until somebody says it. You know, if anything comes to mind, it's just surrounding that game is It's just the feeling afterwards. You know, it's one of the best feelings in the world.

You know, It's like I was trying to compare it to something else, but like when you when you set a goal for yourself and then you reach that goal, sometimes it's not as fulfilling as you would expect it to be. But like if fulfilled every nooking cranny that you could think of winning the Super Bowl and just the feeling being able to share with my family and

everything like that. So that's the first thing that comes to mind, is just how just how fulfilled it and just how accomplished it felt to be able to win that game. All right, if you were to put him in order, getting married, having a kid, winning a super Bowl, what comes first? It's a trap. Chain own answer, it's a trap. Yeah, yeah, how are you gonna do this? All right? Um, let's say having a baby, super Bowl,

getting married, Yeah, super Bowl third. The only reason being married getting married would be last is I would whether I'm married or not, I would still be with my wife or whoever I was with you, so you know, but having the baby is life changing. And the super Bowl was was pretty awesome. You know, after you win a super Bowl or a Stanley Cup or you know, any performance you get like a victory lap. For a year, you do all kind of things. You're gonna meet all

kinds of cool people, go on all these shows. What was the coolest moment or a person you met? Okay, this is this is actually how funny? So the parade was absolutely phenomenal. I had a great time. But I'm from from like just outside of Los Angeles, so I would always go back to that area to work out and training to the offseason, and you know, but I take like a month off before I get back into it.

And me and a couple of buddies we were at this um this party or this club in l A and Te Payne was performing and after he was done, a couple of us went over and like introduced ourselves and met him and stuff and lo and behold me and my me me. It was with Garrett Blunt. We had a dance battle against Te Payne and his boy that was there, and they smoked us. It wasn't like it wasn't even close. And I'll never forget, thank god,

thank god. It was embarrassing because I feel like I feel like I can hold my own on the dance floor. But they were pop locking and doing like all types of athletic and inflexible moves that I don't have in my repertoire. And uh, that was that was one of the well, that was a very very funny moment and it was it was cool. I can't believe I just

remembered that, but yeah, out of the blue. Yeah, Shane, let me ask you a question that Super Bowl game, just to go back for a second again, unbelievable game, definitely in my opinion, m VP of that game, do you think the NFL should have two awards, one first quarterback and one for another player. I can't remember the last time a quarterback didn't win Super Bowl, m v P, or m VP of the season. It's getting ridiculous. There's Defensive Player of the Year, but shouldn't another player gets

some love and some recognition that was your game. You need another trophy? You know, running backs never get there? Just do you know? Ever ever since, ever since the NFL turned into a passing first league, running backs and just we kind of pushed to the side, both in contracts and a notoriety. In my opinion, we gotta fight back. I need to start a running back coalition and we need to we need to start standing up, start picking

outside of games. But yeah, I know it's look, that would have been cool, but that wasn't That wasn't the goal of the game for me. Getting the win is all I really cared about. Whether I had one, like one touch or fifty touches, I didn't, It didn't matter. I just wanted to win the game more than anything. So all that other stuff, you know, it happens, and if you're lucky enough to be selected for the m v P, then cool. But it's Okay, I'm all right,

very humble answer. Almost as humble when you lost the dance competition. That's pretty good. We always hear about the Patriot Way, and obviously Tom Brady kind of threw a wrench in that when he started promoting TV twelve and the TV method all that. But when you were with the Patriots, what's an example of a daily thing that encompasses the Patriot Way? Because we always just hear it.

Give us an example. Um, you know it sounds simple, but every every player on the team, all sixty four guys showing up at eight am on time or early, yeah, show enough to treatments because our first team meeting would be at eight, so treatments would start at seven. So every like showing up to treatments on time, Like you get there at seven fifteen. The treatment room is like the training room is full, is packed, like everybody's working

on something. You know, there's a term like no days off, but I don't look at it as like you have to like be locked in and working your butt off every single day, but like you're on time, you're you're you're being responsible, you're taking care of yourself and you're doing the things that you have to do to kind of to put the team in the best position. And

I think everybody understood their role. I think everybody understood what they had to do personally to get to the to the peak of their performance, and everybody was working to do that collectively. And it sounds simple because you would think that every single team should be doing that, and they should, but it's but it doesn't really happen like that. So when I hear Patriot away, I hear everybody doing what they need to do to get themselves to play at their highest level for the for the team,

not for themselves. Here's a quick quotion. I'm a huge Giant fan. Obviously you played for the Giants as well. Did they treat you like a sky a mall? Did the Patriots treat you like a spy a mall? I mean obviously super Bowl rivals? How does how does a coach? What does what does like Belichick do knowing that you know all his plays? And when a trader, when a player gets traded, what do they do? How do they adapt for someone who knows all that inside information and

now was on a rival team? They changed them? Yeah, I mean, you know it's it's every year is a different year in a sense, right, every year the team has like different different pieces to the puzzle, if you will, so the puzzle fits differently. Might be the same picture, but the pieces fit differently than they did the year before. That was a great analogy. I just thought of that, But I think, I think. I think playing against New England for the is my first year in New York.

I knew the personnel, but I didn't know exactly how they were gonna play me specifically, or if we had done at the time. I didn't know the coverages they were going to use. I didn't know if they were going to try and heat up the pocket with blitz or just sit back in and try and keep everyone covered, because their strategy offensively and defensively changed this week to week.

So I just I prepared myself for the personnel that I knew, kind of playing for four years against those guys, and a lot of them were still there on defense. So I knew the personnel and I knew that like, okay, I knew like there's certain coverages would look like if I was running a route, I wouldn't know immediately what zone would be or where this player would be. So I knew the defense probably better than most guys on

on my team. But at the end of the day, you still gotta you still gotta play to it, and you still gotta win, and you still gotta exploit them in in the weak areas. And that year we didn't, and we we came up short, uh that first one, but it was a close game. It came down to the final drive. So we always played them tough. When I was in New York, you know, we had Steven Jackson on the podcast a couple of weeks ago, and Joanna's asked him what I thought is a very funny question.

He asked him if he ever saw Bill Belichick unplugged himself, that he's just such a robot, and Stephen surprised us. He said that he's actually more fun than we would think. Do you agree. Absolutely. Away from the media, he's a completely different person. He just despises media, He despises storylines, He despises like billboard clippings that teams can use for extra motivation. So yeah, I mean that's why he's very

straight into the point. But when it comes to like coaching and teaching his team the game in those first two years. I learned more about football in those two years than I've ever learned in my entire life. He's very descriptive, very detailed, tells you the why, and he's got the driest sense of humor and it's hilarious. So he definitely has much more of a personality. You can tell he's always locked in or always thinking about stuff. But if you went up and talk to him just

about anything random, that wouldn't be an issue either. You know, his good personality and I've enjoyed every year. He seems like too intimidating to do that. Well, I mean, what's you what? I mean? Yeah, first, but you know, after the first year goes by, and yeah, you start to feel that he's starting to gain trust in you as a player, and he starts, you know, crediting you for like hard work and stuff. You start to loosen up and he starts to kinda you gotta start to see

more of his personality, I guess. And I enjoyed every year that every moment I got to to be coached by coach Belichick. That's awesome. Speaking of the headlines and the storylines that sports journalists create, the big one coming up this week obviously, Tommy terrific Verse Belichick, is that a real storyline? I mean, do you think they're thinking about it? Do you think this is yeah personal, yes,

yes to everything, regardless of what they say in the media. Regardless, I guarantee you both of them want to win this game. They're the biggest competitors that are gonna be out there by the check and Brady, They're they're gonna put more time into this game. They care. You know, they're gonna say it's just another game and we have to get back on track as the Patriots were one and two. We we gotta find our identity and all this stuff.

But they care. This game means just a little bit more, and it should like it should the games that meant a little bit more to me. You know that my practice was just a little bit different that week, and my focus and my attention to detail was a little bit different that week, and when I strapped him up on Sundays, you know, there there's an extra pep in my step and it should be like that. You gotta get you get up for the big games, and that's

what makes foot Bustle special. You only get seventeen now but sixteen when I was playing. So you know, whenever you have that extra motivation, you make it count. What do you think they're saying internally when I'm gonna show them, you know, all that that, all that personal stuff, you know, as stoic as coach Belichick is, you know, if he didn't have that personal motivation, that the take little slights personal, he wouldn't be as great of a coach as he is.

And same with Tom Brady. That chip on his shoulder from getting drafted in the sixth round is still there and it's not going anywhere. That's what makes him so great. So there's definitely gonna be you know, and I think they're gonna be cordial and they're gonna shake hands and everything's gonna be good because there's a ton of respect between both of them, a ton of respect. But it's

gonna be interesting to watch the back and forth. And I want to be looking for like the small details and in ways that they're going to try and combat combat you know, the game plan and combat each other. But I'm really looking forward to it, Like what, like what will you be looking for? Do you think there'll be more blitz packages? And for Tom or what. Definitely, Yeah, I think they're gonna try and heat him up. I think I definitely think they're gonna try and get to

him and affect him. And then I also think that the Patriots are gonna need to steal a couple of possessions, whether that's a couple going for it on fourth down, maybe a surprise play call, but they're gonna need to steal possessions. They're gonna need to keep the ball in the Patriots. They don't want the Bucks to have the time of possession advantage. They want to keep the ball out of twelves hands as as much as possible. So it's gonna it's gonna be it's gonna be good. But

I definitely expected to heat it up. Obviously. It's one of the biggest sports fan arguments. Tom or Belichick. Who wasn't since you are the ultimate insider, if you had to pick one, if you had to pick one, at only one is Belichick system or Tommy terrifics leadership? Okay, his okay, but that's that's impossible. Um, that's the toughest question. Um. First of all, let me go on the record by saying it took both one wouldn't be who they are

without the other. Also, Levin catches from you didn't hurt. I'm just putting that in there. Oh God, I'm gonna go with Tom. I'm going with Tom because he won one, because he won one when he left. He won one when he left. But I stand firm, I said firm in my stance that they wouldn't be who they are without each other, regardless of their relationship was up down, Rocky, they wouldn't be as successful as they are without each other. You could win Miss America with that answer. That was

pretty good, Pretty good, Mr America. Yeah, Mr America. What does rattle Tom Brady does anything? I mean, like Eli Manning, like on the like on the field. I mean yeah, I think if if he's not feeling comfortable in the pocket, it changes changes a little bit who he is. If he's not able to step into throws, got people by his feet, if he's getting hit, those are things that that kind of make him uneasy. If receivers are running the wrong routes, are dropping passes, he's gonna get in

their ass. He like he got in mind multiple times. You know, it's more it's more of you know, the easy the simple mistakes, the little mistakes that really, you know, you're supposed to get to five yards, Why are you turning at three yards? Like that? Bothers him? You know, everybody needs to be on the same page because he I mean, that's how that's how he operates. But everyone's

better for it. Well, just as we wrap this up before we get to our game, which is gonna be a lot of fun and I think you're going to do well at who's your prediction? Who's winning this game Sunday night? Um? I think Tampa. I just haven't seen it from New England yet this year, and the energy is gonna be high, and I think Tom's gonna thrive in that. I just need to see more from New England. Know, I think New England's gonna play their best game of

the season so far. Um, whether they whether they win or lose, I think I think I think Tampa's gonna win. But I do think that New England's going to have the best product that they've shown throughout this season so far. Come Sunday, Okay, I like that. It's gonna be a great game. It is, alright, Shane. Now for our game, this is called Lord of the rings Russia Shane. The

New England Patriots have won six Super Bowls. Many of their players have won multiple rings, So we thought we turned this into a game, and have you guess at who has more rings one of the Patriots or a celebrity who's been engaged multiple times. So Peter Week got who has more rings? Jennifer Lopez or Adam Vinitari? Do you know Jennifer Lopez? Adamentarry has three? So I'm assuming Jennifer is more than that, right, she's got to you got it? He has four? Actually? Oh he has four?

Which one of my? Which one am I missing? Oh? Did he win one with Hindie in two? Seven? One with Oh? That's okay, there we go, Yeah, there we go. Okay, Jay Lo wins five before. She has been engaged five times, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's six. If you can count Ben Affleck twice coming up soon? Oh yeah, yeah, you gotta count. Okay, who has more rings? Shane, Kim Kardashian or Rob Gronkowski. Yess got quite a bit just by one. He has four rings. Kim has been engaged

and married three times. Okay, you're doing well, all right, who has more rings? Paris Hilton or Julian Edelman. Was Paris Hilton left that show with McCole Richie. I kind of lost track of her at first. That was a uh, Jules Julian. I guess Julia's got three? Oh m hmm, Paris. I was gonna say, you only have two options, shaking my head big. You nailed it, Paris Hills Winds. She's been engaged four times Julian one three, Like you said, I don't know. It's always like a DJ or someone. Yeah,

she was once engaged to someone also named Paris. He was a Greek shipping air. Remember that one, right? Okay? Yeah? Can you imagine being engaged to someone named Janice? Well, yeah, I mean there's a feminine version of the name in Greek, it would be Juanna. So actually, my daughter Gianna is the feminine of my name, So it's possible. Is there any masculine Olivia over you could be you can be married to Oliver? Yeah, yeah, Jane, you could be engaged

with Shania name name. Let's do one male version, since we did all only females. How about Brad Pitt also against Julian Edelman. That's a good one. That's a really good times he's been engaged. I'm thinking I think for Brett Fred. You think of Jennifer Aniston and I can't think her name, so I will go to Julia. There have been more. Brad Pitt has been engaged four times. Julian's won three bradwins. Brad, you little slot, Jesus, Brad has four. Make a decision, Brad, Damn, I know I

did four. I didn't know it's four. You did good, though, you did very good. Thank you guys, Thank you, Jane. You are a good sports you are You need to brush up on your celebrity knowledge a little bit, but you know your Patriots. You know you're Tom Brady, and you gave us some great insight. We really appreciate you coming on. We hope you had as much fun as we did. I had a great time, Grass, Thanks for having me anytime. Just let me know. Thank you. Enjoy

the game Sunday night. It's always good to have a should be Super Bowl m v P on the show. Thank you. There you go, there you go, thank you. That's that's gonna read on my twol So it should have been. Well, that was a lot of fun with Shane Green. What a fun episode. He really, You're right he does have to brush up on his celebrity in engagement news. I mean, I didn't know until we read them. Really, I thought Brad Pitt was a little bit more monogamous.

But let's put that in the past and let's look towards the future with my partner who I pay under the table to help me beat Olivia. Every single we welcome bet GM betting expert Peter Andrew. How you doing, Pete? I've been Betts. Olivia knows this. I had a rough Sunday while she had a fantastic Sunday night. My Niners disappointed me, hence my voice almost completely lost. But hey, that's that SCE for you. Before we look forward, I mean, we gotta it was. It was a disappointing weekend for

a lot of people. Me as a Giants fan, you as a Niners fan. But the boxing world got turned upside down with Anthony Joshua being upset. I mean, is what does that mean for the fight with the Gypsy King? I mean, what is going on? I mean, is there only one fight now in the heavyweight division and we know the Gypsy Kid is gonna win that. Yeah, you know, a J heavy favorite, but you stick was a really good boxer. I think he's nineteen and no now thirteen KOs.

It shouldn't come to as as a huge surprise that it was a good fight. He had cleaner hits, heavier hits. I don't know what happens with a J now next, but he's on a steep decline, so it's gonna be really interesting. I don't think he has any kind of chance of beating the guy like Cury. Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting. The boxing world certainly got chaken up a little bit this weekend. And did you watch the

UFC this weekend at all? There was uh that I know that that was as far as the betting lines, that was he was a slide favorite. But let's throw the betting lines out and just talk about how amazing a fight that was in the main event at the UFC. Yeah. I think overall this was a really good card. It probably wasn't on paper the sexiest card with the Macgraters of the world, but I think he had really good fights across the board, So I can't ask for more

for for a combat sports weekend. Oh man, it was incredible. All right, let's move on, let's move forward. This is my favorite part of the show. Yeah, apparently it is your favorite part of the show. And I don't think you're just paying Peter. I think you're in NFL officials also to help you out here. So yeah, it is our punishment picks, and you have won the last three weeks. I have no idea how you know. I went to journalism school, I've grown up around sports. I like to

think I know what I'm talking about. And now you're putting all of that tuition, money and intern experience and years grinding my teeth on the sidelines to nothing right now because I've lost. I'm over three honest, how are you doing it? You got Chargers at Chiefs. I took the Chiefs. That was the one I lost this week. Hey, luck of the Irish. You know that's a great thing about throwing a little scratch on any game anyone can win. You don't have to be an athlete, you don't have

to be an esteem sports journalist with a pedigree. All you gotta be is an overweight Greek kid who's past this prime, who's a B level comedian, and you can be up the great, oh h d every single week Yes, I mean this is why I have a job, right, this is seriously, what's betting one oh one? It's even when you think he got it nail, this is me personally. You think he got the weekend nailed, the boy it can get ugly, Yeahkes, Well, let's start with that game,

Chargers at Chiefs. That was a good one. The Chiefs just seemed to step all over their own feet at a middle school dance. I had not seen them look like that. I hadn't seen Patrick mahomes face look like that during a game. He looked just upset, just grunt old. Whatever you want to say, Peter, what did you see in that game? Yeah? First off, last place Chiefs. I think that's what they are now. Haven't heard that since

probably pre Alex Smith, probably five six years ago. You're right, But I also want to give credit words to and I think this Chargers team is legit Justin Herbert. And I was listening to someone overblowing on the radio this weekend, but Justin Herbert is a legitimate potential superstar in the sleep. I think he's just got poise. You know, I'm going to compare him to a Brady in the homes. He may not have everything those guys have, but he's got

that same kind of poise. He's super calculated. You see him going through his progressions. He's gonna be an incredible quarterback for the next ten years or so. So it certainly is on the Chiefs a little bit, probably a lackluster last couple of games, but but the charges are no joke and they are a legitimate playoff contender this year. I was looking at Justin Herbert's m v P odds.

Before week three he was plus four thousand. Now he's plus eleven hundred after that, Chief's whooping, So people are really liking Herbert. What else are we seeing with m v p ods? Obviously Patrick Mahomes has kind of dropped out, Matt Stafford has jumped up, Josh Allen has jumped up. What do you like right now as we're three weeks in looking at m v P. Yeah, so it's probably the quarterback matchup we had on Sunday, Brady for Stafford. I think if either those guys do what they've done

in the last couple of weeks in it. I know Brady had a little bit of a tougher game this weekend. Those guys, to me just jump out Brady with Mike Evans, Godwyn Bronk if he stays healthy. And then you have Stafford with Woods Cooper Cup who looks like the best water super in the league right now. There's just so many weapons those guys. It's really really difficult not to produce on offense when you have three to five different weapons like that, and they haven't even gone to a

lot of their guys. They're the running game in in Tampa is not fantastic yet. And then Henderson in in l a same thing. So I think there's a lot to of course with both those guys. I got a double question here. I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a double burger. My first question is the Rams. They look like there's no better way to describe it than they look like they mean business. They're hitting hard, they're playing incredible. Do you think they keep this level of play up?

Is this just they're rejuvenated with Stafford? I mean, he looks he looks like the best quarterback in the league. My second question is the Packers. They look like they figured it out. Do they keep this level of play up or is it just Aaron Rodgers doing magical things. So first point with Stafford and the Rams, I think they are probably the favorite in the NFC right now. They're gonna have a couple of tough tasks, but this

was a good one this weekend against the Bucks. Just again weapons and then arguably the best cornerback in the leaving Jail and Ramsey on the defensive side. Obviously, you have a wide variety of things that just that are going really well for them. They are to me the clear NFC favorite. When we get to the Packers, I could probably go both ways with this one. They were playing in JV defense in the Niners, especially the cornerbacks

and safeties, I mean just dropping like flies. It sounds like you're taking a little personal Peter, Yeah, you take it. You know you should. You don't let your emotions show here just a little bit. But when Aaron Rodgers does that and Davante Adams is just ripping apart zone defenses, it's it's hard to stop. And I mean if you would have told me thirty five seconds left, no touchdowns left, they burned all three touchdowns and you have to have Rogers go at least fifty or sixty yards and win

the game. I would take that ten times out of ten. That shows how good he is. And for anybody that was questioning how much he cares about this team, and when you saw his reactions on the sideline, So it's it's a little bit of both. I want to see

them do something against a real defense. But at the same time, if Rogers is playing like that and he's connected with Adams like that, they're gonna be a tough team to be Hey, next time you're playing your JV defense, can you not like come for the life of Davonte Adams and they zoom in very close on his lifeless space? That was that was troubling? Can you not do that next time? Peter first admit, hands up, that was a dirty,

dirty hit, and and we said it. You know, we're sitting kind of in the back of the end zone where that was happening. So maybe twenty thirty yards out from there, and everybody, Niners fans, Packers fans, I'll pretty much agree with those kids. So we'll take that one up and hopefully see least that next week. Well, let's continue with the Packers as we get to our punishment picks. Peter, you have picked three games, and the first one is Steelers at Packers. Give us a little preview, give us

the lines, and then we'll make our pick. Punishment. Yeah, so Green Day seven point favorite. Obviously, they saw what they can do last week really impressively in their home this weekend against a very questionable Piper Steelers team that we've seen probably on both sides, really impressive against the Bills, and then we've seen against the lackluster performances. So this is a tricky one. Seven points. What are you guys taking? Okay,

let's go. Let's go beauty before age. So I'll go, Um, look, we got two quarterbacks here, one who may I thought was gonna maybe have a Custer's last stand, but it looks like he needs to be put and uh he should be have a motor scooter, I think so. And the other one, I'm yes, it looks like his competitiveness is still there, but he also looks like he did Ayawaska in Mexico this summer. The guy's chill, he's talking about how can you not be romantic about football? That line,

I'm gonna go with the open minded Ayawaska. Yeah, I'm going with the Packers on this one. No big surprise. Yeah, me too. We're gonna agree on this one. Ben Roethlisberger looks horrible. The whole team looks horrible. They look lost. I love Mike Tomlin, but this is not his year. This is not his team. I like the Packers and I like seven. Yeah, I think all three of us agree there. Next one, this is an interesting one. I probably wouldn't have said this a couple of weeks ago.

Ravens one and a half point dog against the Denver Brown goes Denver at home. So minus one and a half point favorite. Denver coming off from a really impressive win against a not really impressive team. But they are three and OW and that division looks to be legit. What do you guys like here? I'm laying the points with the home favorite. Denver looks great. Three and oh Bridgewater I think has so much to prove. He's one of those journeyman quarterbacks. Their fan base. If you've ever

been to a home game, they're at mile High. It's incredible. It kind of shakes you to your core. In fact, one time I watched the Packers game there, and I think the second to top row and it was about the scariest situation I've been in vertically in my life. Uh that places rocking. I like them at home, and the Ravens got very lucky to win last week. They are hard to figure out. As much as I love a sixty six yard bieldal set in history, I don't

think that happens in Denver. I'm taking the Broncos. Okay, here we go our first disagreement, because look, if you've got a guy who can kick sixty six yards, I mean, you know, if the game comes down to the wire, might as well just have him kick it from the other end zone. I mean, I don't know if you heard my unleash this week, but I am going with the Ravens. They're gonna have a great season and they're

gonna lose in the postseason like they always do. So I'm going with the Ravens alright, like it for what it's worth. I'm on Denver as well. Okay, last one, Mr Brady's return to Foxboro Tampa Bay miney six and a half point favorite on the road against New England Patriots. You're taking Brady, You're taking Belichick. I'm going to Shane Vereen here I'm taking Brady in the Bucks. It's gonna be emotional, it's gonna be dramatic, but TV twelve can

handle it. And I think when you look schematically, the Bucks run defense is really good, their past defense not so much. And the Patriots don't yet have the scheme and the quarterback and the weapons to air it out. I don't think they're gonna give mac Jones that long of a leash, which could be the only way to beat the Buccaneers. As we saw with l A. I think DV twelve wins this one at his previous home. Yeah, you see, I can find no holes in O. H

D's arguments. I mean very sound, I mean every point very good. But I'm going with the psychological game on this. Okay, this is where the Yanni magic happens. Yeah, eight e and the Buccaneers they got they got rattled last week. They got rattled, and I think going in Belichick has been this is this is like a Super Bowl game for Belichick. So he's getting all the spies out. He's been watching their practices. The balls are deflated or inflated whatever.

Tom doesn't like. They're gonna have less towels in their locker room. There's gonna be a lot of psychological warfare. I'm going with the Patriots in an upset and vindication for Billy Belichick. And you know you said this a couple of weeks ago. You you called it that the Chiefs might be rattled after they lost two weeks ago. And long behold, there it is. And you know why it is. I've not listened. He's doing. Mahomes is doing commercials.

Now he's got you know, you always go, hey, when a guy gets half a billion dollars, does he care anymore? It's that McGregor factor. I think, finally we're gonna see an unmotivated and we're seeing an unmotivated Mahomes. He may be partying a little bit. I mean, I don't know anybody in his circle, but don't don't be surprised if he comes up with if he shows up at a strip club with pac Man Jones. No, Mahomes is so clean cut. His best friends are his his wife, his daughter,

and his brother, who I've got more issues with. The brother. Got to be honest than I do. Move he is cookie cutter. He's fine, but honest. I love your hot takes. I gotta tell you and I hate when they are right, and I hate when you make me look so bad. Peter, thanks so much for joining us again. Don't forget everyone to go to bet MGM on Twitter on Monday to

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I've got a proposition for Olivia, Okay, I want to do her own punishment. Pick you and I When when the Niners inevitably play the Packers in the playoffs, which they will because they do every year, loser has to wear the other team's jersey on the podcast. So when Niners upset in the playoffs, you're wearing a Trey Lance jersey. Man If if the Packers happen to win, that five percent chance, I'll wear whatever jersey, will you know, I'll do that. I like Trey Lance, I'll do that. I

needed some skinny. I keep seeing Yanny win every week and I was like, you know, I need to just jump in on the front too. I love it. I love the way you disrespected Jimmy g there just with the tray Lance jersey. Wow. Wow. Yeah, let's cut that part out. Yeah, no, keep it in. That's what That's what the people like. Olivia. I know you wish this was the end, but I think again, from what I understand, you're taking this out. I guess so, I guess so. I don't know why before week one I agreed to

this game. I know why I agree to this game. I thought I was gonna whoop you every week. This is is getting rough, But here we go again. Mom. I hope you have cut out. I hope you've running your errands and you're not driving in your car listening to this anymore. Hi. My name is Olivia Harland Decker, and I'm the Washington General's of Betting. I am here to let Yanni Globe trotter dunk all over my picks. I'm just here to lose three weeks in a row.

Because of this, I think it's time for a new look, to just switch up my luck. So I've decided to dye my hair pink, change my lipstick color to black. Next week, you will want to see that I always wanted to be a goth girl, and I think it's time to just be the real meat. Also, I really think it's time that jannas Papa is the great genius that he is, who I'm honored to work with, apologize to me for this vicious three, for his utter demolition

of me because obvious superiority. Now, I know women's brains are just so much smaller, but this is expected, and I think it's time Yanni apology eyes is to me and show some chivalry. But I understand he would like to take this time to apologize to absolutely nobody. The Triple Chaft does That was conomator voice, and it was clearly written in The Triple Champion dos what the he wants? Where's Fine Bert? Where's Mike Bart? Give me my second boat?