NFL Great Ron Jaworski Joins the Show

this week we're talking NFL preseason headlines. There's always so much going on this time of year, and then after we talk about it, we're gonna break it down with the great Ron Dworsky Jaws seventeen season NFL Quarterback vet, and then we're gonna tell you how you can win five hundred dollars in credit for bet MGM. Yeah, I'm not lying around five dollars, so you're gonna want to catch that. Then we're gonna hang out with our friend

Peter Andrew with our Lions locks. He's going to tell you what to bet on this weekend in the NFL preseason games, there's a full slate. We cannot wait. Janice, how are you, my friend? I'm doing good, doing good. Watched a little baseball, watched a little preseason football, watched my Giants not do much. Okay, yeah, very impressed with Zack Wilson and I may become a Jets fan, maybe Buffalo Bills fan, definitely a Toronto Raptors fan. Who So, did you watch the Field of Dreams game? I did

watch the Field of Game. I just wanted to tune in to see if Kevin Costner hadn't he worked done? He looks good. Hey, he looks more than good. He looks good. Did you watch Yellowstone? I haven't seen Yellowstone? Know? Okay, well, I'd highly suggested get the popcorn. But it's um. There's something about an old, leathered tan cowboy. I will say that is that's that's a good genre. I think Marlboro maybe put that in our heads with Marlboro man. Yeah,

I mean Kevin Costner. I love gol Durham. His sports movies, the baseball ones are legendary. But then he did water World and his career went in the water. So it's good to see that he's back. Oh, he's back. He's back. I think Yellowstone if anything, Yeah, secured that he's back. But he throws the first pitch. I mean, how cool that he was going to be there, the players walking out of the cornstocks, and then the way it ends, I mean it was Cinema. It was beautiful, really well

done by Fox. It almost felt like they wrote it. It almost felt like it was they did last week. He had a couple of conspiracies. Do you think they I saw a couple of meatballs over the plate where you're thinking, like, are they just tossing him up there? Now? I think it was a great game. I think maybe there was a little magic of baseball in there. Who knows. I mean I got goose bumps when they walked out

of the corn field. It was funny to watch Stanton and Judge walk out because they were above the core. That was like, it looked like your husband walking out. I mean, those are two big kids, so they needed to grow the corner a little because they couldn't hide. I saw him before they appeared, because they were just they were like a head above the corn when they walked out. But it was it was goosebump city. That's

what they should have called the goose bump city. You know, I'm a resident Midwest correspondent and it's been a dry summer, so easy on the corn. Okay, we're so insensitive, you know, I'm a coastal New York kid. We forget where the food comes from. Right, don't forget us, don't forget our fire over states. Hey, you mentioned Zach Wilson earlier. Let's talk about him. So he came from b y U. Now he's with the New York Jets, not making the

headlines that fields or lands are. He had a rough start to camp, but scouts did see some promising things and some throws over ten yards, so they like his arm Um. I think it's all about getting him some big targets, and they did that. They got him Corey Davis, Denzel Sims, a veteran like James and Crowder Elijah Moore out of all miss I like him a lot, the rookie and two first rounders on his O line, and that's I think where they went wrong with Sam Donald,

their number three picken. He didn't have much around him, and he struggled greatly going thirteen and twenty five and three seasons. He's now with Carolina. What do you think from Zack Wilson and the Jets spending and the Jets? Yeah, I know what you say. I think is you know it's like you need an OH line, you need peace around you, you need targets. I felt that way about Eli, my beloved Eli Manning the Goat and my Giants in

those last couple of years before he got replaced. Like his on line was he wasn't taking him out to dinner enough or something happened. So you're right, I think with those complimentary pieces, the only thing is he's on the Jets, so things seem to go wrong on the Jets. So that's the only concern I have about Zack Wilson is his uniform. Okay, Okay, I like that there's so much attention on these rookie quarterback that's run through the

rest of them. Trevor Lawrence with the Jacksonville Jaguars, number one overall pick, Heisman winner, amazing head of lettuce, and he's listed as the co number one next to Gardner Minshew urban Meyer. The new coach is not going to name him number one. Do you think that's so crazy or do you think he's still in a college mindset where a lot of coaches do that they don't want

to list QB one. Yeah, I mean it's football seems to be the only sport that like, uh, when you got a star like that number one pick projected to be offensive rookie of all that stuff. You just it's the only sport where they feel like they need to give the quarterback time. I say, let him go. He's ready. He's so good, he was so good in college. He played three years at Clemson. He's ready to throw the

pig skin. Let the kid throw the pigskin, and let's see those locks flow around out to the you know the bottom of his helmet. Yeah, let him go. I mean there are but you know I would. I'm very I was very impressed just by at one throw from Trey Lance. He threw for eighty yards, and I'm wondering if Garofolo is gonna be his backup. Okay, this adds perfectly to my narrative that you don't know people's names. You know, it's Garoppolo, Garolo, Garofolo, same thing. He's an

Italian kid. You know they tried to attack with the World War two. I'm a Greek, and since that happened, I don't learn any of their names, including my wife's. Oh man, a brick tie instead of Brittany. Okay, okay, you know I would believe it. I don't believe it. I still can't believe you still get my name right every week. Um, but you mentioned Trey Lance. I like to call him Ginne and Garoffalo. Okay, well we'll stick with that for our loyal listeners. I hope they know

every week that is who we're talking about. Um. But yeah, Trey Lance. He's a guy who has a lot of attention because he fits the bill. He looks good getting off the bus, he passes the eye test. He was sacked four times in his first NFL game. But his coach, Kyle Shanahan, he said, you know, I didn't want it to go perfectly. You kind of almost like that this is what the preseason is for. But yeah, Jay Lance

has a lot of attention. And then justin Fields in Chicago, Andy Dalton is still quarterback one according to their coach, Mattnege. And I want to ask jobs about this, about having that rookie quarterback who has so much promise and you bring in a vet to kind of hold their hand. A lot of teams do it, and a lot of teams feel like that works. Coach was the quarterback coach in Kansas City when Patrick Mahomes was behind Alex Smith. So they're following a formula here. This is a model

from But look the fans they want Justin fields. They go crazy when he's on the field. He gets standing ovations, he gets the US and Oz has crazy speed. I think he's the Aston Martin, you know what I mean. He's asked in Martin. Andy Dalton is like your reliable old Ford. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean Lebron LEBRONI who was going crazy tweeting about him. So let them give the fans what they wanted. In other news, you know, the rosters round the NFL get trimmed down to eighty

five this week. So this week is major. If you watch Hard Knocks, you know what that looks like. Do you watch Hard Knocks? I do. I used to watch it. I haven't watched this season yet. I used to watch it all the time. It was great. I remember the I think the best one was the Ravens. It was one of the first Hard Knocks and it was really great because ray Lewis was just like I think Goose

was on the team, right am I saying his name? Right, the big dude Goosa what was his name on the Ravens and Garoffalo I don't remember his name, but that was a great camp to watch. I think it was the year after they wanted Goose Ruffalo. He's a sideline reporter now he's about He's a big, big guy. He was he was alignment and I just can't remember his name like I can Chris STAPs Porzgis. I think it is his day. Yeah, there he is Sarah Goose. So that was his name, Sarah Goo. Yeah, they called him

Goosto was his nickname? Right? So did you have you watched it? Are you tuning in? Yep? I watched the first one and that show always makes me cry. It makes me laugh. It is so well done and it really does make you feel for these players. In fact, I told you I was going to lambeau Field for the Texans at Packers game and watching like some third

fourth string receiver drop a pass. I'm like, oh, it kills me because you know their whole families watching, and you know their whole neighborhood where they grew up watching. Everyone wants that kid to make it, and it just it like breaks my heart. I get really soft in the preseason, like regular season it's on game time, but preseason, I just want everyone to make the team. I do. I feel bad for him. See that's why, you know. I hate to say this, but that's why you can't.

I don't think women. You guys are nurturing you. I know. I'm just if you were the coach, there might be like a roster of a hundred and fifty players because everyone would make it. Yeah, or I make like a B squad and we just have like a dinner party or something that you can tell a jersey and tell your friends that you're on the team. Yeah, that's so. Yeah, that walked to the coach's office as always. And yeah,

and that show it's filmed, so it's tough. It's tough to watch, but it makes for good drama and it's a it's yeah, especially the guys on special teams when they met, like, you just have such a limited opportunity to make something happen. You make one quick mistake. Sometimes it comes down to split hair things. Guys don't make it. It's tough, you know. I mentioned I went to lambeau Field. Jordan's love is playing quarterback in Green Bay. He suffered

a shoulder injury in that game. He hasn't practiced since the first preseason game. He had one scoring drive, one turnover, and the Packers lost to Houston. So Green Bay this week is bringing in some quarterbacks. They play the Jets Saturday. New York is the two point favorite at minus one ten. That's for most of the preseason games. Risk a hundred ten dollars to win a hundred dollars. You know, I would take the Jets this week in Green Bay because

at this point Rogers isn't playing. They've said it, and David Batiari, the left tackle, is not playing, and now Jordan's love they're gonna heaze him out. I feel really sad that he's hurt, but that is one bet. As I'm looking at this slate of games this weekend, I think I'll take the Jets. All right. Well that's that's one of the only times you'll hear I'll think I'll take the Jets. So in preseason to stay bet during the season, I mean, you better have money to lose.

But he looked good. Though he looked good, it looked like a wise draft pick by the Packers because he did look good. Yeah, it depends who you ask. Here in the Wisconsin media, people are really hot and cold on him. I didn't think he looked that bad. His one scoring drive was great. Um I tell you what. He had one pass that was like thirty four yards or something and the place went crazy. But before it was like this pent up energy. You could tell people

were nervous because they want him to do well. So it's a it's a double edged sword, but that's what the preseason is all about. We get to see backups, we get to see third and fourth string guys, and we get to see who makes the team again. Ross ters are trimmed down to eighty five players this week and then it goes to fifty three. So this is make it or break a time. But that's not for us to discuss. Let's bring in someone who knows what they're talking about in Ron Jaworsky. He is coming up next.

We welcome in Ron Dworski, also known as Jaws, named by Doug Collins. I had to look that one up. I didn't know Doug Collins came up with the name. That was before the one Super Bowl. He's also referred to as Rifle Ron and the Polish Rifle. He played seventeen seasons in the NFL. He's a legend in Philadelphia sports and NFL history. How are you Jaws Olivia. Great to be with you. I'm doing terrific. Just came back from the Eagles scrimmage against the Wingland Patriots, So I

got that football feeling right now. You know, I'm already to go. I love it here, the pads crashing, the whistles blowing when we're your biggest takeaways from Jalen Hurts especially, let's start there. Well, Jalen Hurts clearly is the guy that must perform this year for the Eagles. You know, he's a second round pick two years ago, played four games last year, he was uneven. We saw flashes of consistent play, but for the most part, I would say it was uneven. So it's really critical that he has

a good preseason, a good training camp. He had a rock solid game last week in the season opener in a preseason against the Steelers. But the Eagles also did a y thing of bringing in a veteran like Joe Flacco, you know, former Super Bowl m v P, fourteen year NFL veteran to be the backup for Jalen Hurt. So and I think that's a good thing in this regard. I believe strong and have a veteran backup quarterback to a young quarterback. There's also a comic relationship with the

Joe Flacco as well. Joe has been through the through the Ringer per se, and even at practice, I noticed, you know, they had good dialogue throughout the practice. I think they're developing a strong relationship. But Jalen has to be the guy. I was just gonna say, do you think we're gonna be saying that about Garoffalo week two or week one? I think Jimmy is the guy. You know. I haven't seen how their training camp is going from a viewership perspective. You know, I'm here at all the

good reports about both quarterbacks there. Jimmy is a rock solid player if he's healthy. I mean, obviously took to one super Bowl. If he's healthy, you know, he's a guy that's gonna be hard to sell planned. So you know, we'll see how it all plays out. But I think clearly,

you know, Jimmy's a solid football player. We see dynamics like that all around the league, bringing in the veteran to kind of hold the hand of the rookie year quarterback the second year quarterback, and Janis and I were earlier talking about just headlines around the NFL, so much attention every season goes on the young quarterbacks. What young quarterback around the league do you feel like is in

a position to make a big jump? Before I answered that, the one thing I was looking at today was Mac Jones, the quarterback from Alabama who's there apparent to the Patriots quarterback job behind Cam Newton right now, and I Mac coming out of Alabama. He had a great quarterback presence in the pocket. His movement was outstanding, always in a position to deliver the football. But he didn't have a gun on his shoulder, didn't have the big, strong armor.

I didn't see enough of those type of throws you know at Alabama. So I watched him very closely today. I will say this, he does not have a gun, but he does have enough arm strength, and I think he could be successful in the NFL. So I watched Mac Jones very carefully today. I like what I saw as far as quarterbacks. Now that I see that on the horizon, the NFL is the quarterbacks league. We all know that if you don't have that position, you're gonna

struggle every week to get victories. A guy that I really liked, and I think he's ready for a breakout season. Is Daniel Jones with the New York Giants. I mean he's a big, strong guy that could rip throws. He showed some toughest last year playing with a plethora of injuries. Uh and, and the Giants went out and got him some help. I mean, you know, so you you put speedy wide receivers say Kwan Barkley, and improved offensive line. I think Daniel Jones could have a breakout year. Nice,

I'm a giant finn. Here you go. I want to keep you happy. He's fast as long as he just can stay on his feet when he runs, Now, don't run. It drives It drives me crazy. When you know, in the preseason we watched a lot of quarterbacks run and everyone gets all excited. Oh he ran for fifteen yards. You know, you know, you get in the NFL. Quarterbacks they're not supposed to run. They're supposed to orchestrate offense. Hand the ball off, deliver the ball to the open receiver.

If you start counting your quarterback to make plays with his legs, you're going to find yourself in trouble. Yes, they get the crowd excited, but I'm a firm believer, maybe because I was a quarterback, that you play the position from the pocket first, and you take running opportunities when they present themselves. Play quarterback first, That's what you're

supposed to do. You mentioned surrounding Jones with a bunch of talent, but New England did that as well with Mac Jones bringing in an NFL record money and free agency and obviously the first first round quarterback under Bill Belichick. Now do you feel like New England is in position to make that jump regardless of who's under center. Yeah, I do. It's last year was such a hot mess, you know, with the with the pandemic and what coaches had to deal with. And I will stick to my

guns on this as well. I truly believe not one coach should have been fired last year. The circumstances coaches had to deal with were extraordinary and so difficult to deal with. I don't think anyone should have lost their job. And you mentioned the pages. I believe they had seven or eight you know, players declare they're out the due to COVID and a lot of starters. So you can imagine the troubling year that was for Bill Belichick and his coaching staff, and Bill is, you know, arguably the

greatest of all time. You know, I was fortunate to play for Don Shulo for two years and he would be in that That mixed a conversation of some of the greatest coaches of all time. Belichick owes how to win and he hates to lose, and that's where it starts. Bill hates to lose. I spent a few moments with this morning and you actually a smile on his face, So he must be feeling pretty good about his team.

Although it's early in the preseason, and they did have a good scrimmage this morning, so I think he felt pretty good about it. But the Patriots are a world class organization from top to bottom. They know how to win. Now you can look at the a f C East. Now Buffalo is the team to beat. The Jets are coming on with Zack Wilson, you know, two of down in Miami. They're they're they're an up and coming teams. So the FC Easter no longer the doormat for Bill Belichick,

so it'll be tougher. But you know, a Bill knows how to win. I've seen the metamorphous of his offense this year. Now we signed multiple tight ends. You know, he still got Cam Newton, Mac Jones and and Brian Hoyer who's still there by the way. Uh So they have three, you know, capable quarterbacks. It'll be Cam's job, I think eventually to lose to mac Jones. What do you think about Trevor Lawrence his debut as a freshman. I still remember, you know, at Clemson. I'm that that's

how how worldly he looks as a quarterback. And you know I can remember just I can see it. You know, I said that guy is a freshman. You know, he looked like a polished NFL quarterback as a as an eighteen year old. So clearly there'll be some growing pains like there are for every young quarterback, especially going to a team in Jacksonville that really does have a great supporting cast. They will build around him. But from a talent perspective, I mean, the sky's the limit for Trevor Lawrence.

He's he's got it all. As we look at your career kind of through media, and it's so fun just hearing you talk about football because for so many of us growing up, that's what we would see. We turn on ESPN and and you were as big of NFL seasons as anyone on TV. What was that transition like? And some of the people that you got to work with, You've got to be with your former coach, Dick for Meal, brad Nessler, Mike Terrico, some big names that are giants

in the industry, what was that transition like. Yeah, I was very fortunate to work with, you know, only outstanding coaches throughout my seventeen year career. But then I transitioned to my work with ESPN and Monday Night Football and you name it, every platform that ESPN has. I was on during the season and I loved it. And I'm so grateful, uh for those experiences and people that I worked with. And I would probably tell you that Mike

Arrico probably had the biggest influence on me. And I come on out of the NFL playing seventeen years and wow, you know, I didn't know what Cameron look at when I went in the studio, you know, I mean, you know, I knew football, but I didn't know the nuances of being on television. And Mike Rio is just you know, kind of went behind the ears out of out of Syracuse, and Mike really really taught me the business. And we were together for I don't know, eighteen nineteen years doing

the countdown shows Monday night football together. But he really taught me the broadcast business. So I'm surely deeply grateful to Mike Trico what he taught me. And you know, working with the John Gruden and Tony Corners, you talked about two different people now and talk about changing your game plan. You know, when I worked a couple of years with with Tony, uh, it was different. Tony was awesome and work with I love to this day, love

the guy. After two years, I get Jon Gruden and John is like coming in like he's coaching a Super Bowl team. Just a pleasure to work with. But you gotta be a Camille. You've gotta change your colors all the time. So I went from Tony Kornheiser to John Gruden. Well that's a change we were talking about in the first segment. We were talking about the field of dreams games and how amazing it was in baseball. Do you think football should do something like that, throw some leather

helmets on, played both sides of the ball. Hell No, Although I love the baseball game, it was spectacular. I I thought it was a great idea that Fox came up with the show that game. I thought it was it was crazy. But I don't want to see a football game with leather helmets. You know. It's hard enough that with the technology that the players now play with, but man leather helmets. Uh, my dad played football in college.

He told me they used to hit less hard because of the leather helmets because they didn't want to get injured when they hit the guy. That's quite possible. You're not gonna stick your you know, you're you're facing an oncoming running back or wide receiver if you have no protection. Um, you know, we we had a we had a trainer when I came to the Eagles by the name oth O Davis, who was one of the iconic athletic trainers

in the country. And our locker room was kind of a museum and he he went back to the leather helmets everything in there, and the nose protector was this kind of steel thing that came down over the helmet. Almost looked like these Roman gladiators and that was their nose protection. I would say, oh, are you kidding me? Players actually played with that thing. Oh, Yeah, that protective, getting your nose busted up. I said, that wouldn't protect anything.

In today's game. The guys are bigger, stronger, faster, meaner, nastier. I wouldn't want to wear a leather helmet, but they definitely let the In your era, the quarterbacks really took a licking compared to this era. They really kind of you know, they pampered the quarter backs. Now what do

you feel about that? Well, Jack Lambert, you say you could put a dress on some quarterbacks, you know, and and the way they're protecting the quarterback down, maybe you could you know that, Uh, I'm all for Yeah, I'm I'm all for it. You know, protect the quarterback. It's a heartbeat of the football team. Come on, guys, you gotta protect the quarterback. But you can't take the violent part of the game away. And I think Roger Goodell has had been on a mission, and I think it's

a very important mission for players safety. And in the beginning when Roger started changing all the rules, you know, lead with your helm. You can't leave your helmet, you can You're gonna get in certain areas the field of the body. I gotta be honest, I was like, oh, he's ruining the game. I was like one of these grumpy old players, you know, out of ruin in the game. But as I've seen the game evolved. Now the game

is definitely better and healthier. So I plaud what the commissioner has done making the games safer for today's players. But I will sell you this. I'm out there practice this morning, and I'm thinking back to my training camp days. Seventeen years in the End fell with the Rams, ten years of the Eagles, two years of the Dolphins, a year in Kansas City working with your dad, Olivia. I mean, I'm thinking of training camp. I was at a country club this morning. These guys are out there an hour

and minute practice. I mean there's no tackling, there's no hitting, you know, I think a dick for real, Chuck Knox, Don Schuler, Marty shot iron. If guys were bleeding, it wasn't a good practice, you know. I mean, the game has changed. These guys now three preseason games. I remember playing seven and we got two hundred dollars a game. Oh boy, playing seven preseason I sound like I'm whining, right, But the game certainly has The game certainly has changed.

If I saw if I started Trevor Lawrence from behind an address, I might buy him a drink. The kid has a nice hair. I love that, and I love talking to someone from your generation of the NFL. Even watching clips back, I was watching you with Harold Carmichael, your former wide receiver, football's tall list wide receiver. And he was awarded football's highest honor this month, going in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Now you've said if you could design a receiver on a computer, it would

be Harold Carmichael. What do you mean by that? And what were your thoughts watching him go in the hall. Well, first of all, congratulate Harold Carmichael. I was in Canton with Harold and his family, and and and and I bawled for about a half hour. You know, that's how And I even get emotional thinking about it, because Harold, it was not only a great football player, And you know, all too often we evaluate players on what they did in the field, and and Harold certainly deserved recognition as

being a Hall of Famer. He should have been given that honor a long time ago. From seventy eight two, with the best receiver in the National Football League for over a decade. But Harold is a better person than he is a football player. He's the consummate professional when he was on the field, and he's a dear friend off the field. We're still very close. I felt like I was going in the Hall of Fame. That that's how how good I felt for Harold, because he deserved it.

And it took a long time coming, but he finally got in. But but Harold and I just such an amazing guy. Just he can't say six eight. In fact, I was with him this morning he was out of the Eagles Patriot scrimmage, and he's just a tad under six eight tad under. So he grew as if he had one of those big old af rows the day, he probably would have been six ft eight. But the thing that was uncommon about Harold, which he didn't get

credit for, was his speed. Now he's six ft eight, his arms touched the ground as he walks, and he's he's got catchers amidst for hands. And you know, even just a unique player to play with, fiercely competitive. Wood Block could run and we used to have this a goal line audible and whenever someone would come inside to five yard and press up on Harold that he's six eight, you got some you know, I'll comes to piss hand quarter cornerback out there. You know, five nine, we had

this play. I would just grab my face basketball, just kind of adjusted my helmet, and that would be Harold, meet me at the corner. And that's what we call it me. I would throw the ball to the corner of the end zone, the pieline, and Harold just knew whenever I grab that face, no matter what the play was,

it was to meet me at the corner. And we had great success with that play because he could just mean out, muscle out, maneuver, I'll jump, or he was just too big to defend the two of you out in Philly in those weekend nights after a big win or something. Would you ever do the same thing that, Hey, I'm ready to leave this place. Let's go to the next bar, meet me at the corner. Oh yeah, it wasn't only a Harold was a lot of my teammates wanted to maybe at the corner bar. Yeah. See, I

love this about the NFL. In one second, we're saying if they're not bleeding, it's not practice, And then a grown man can cry talking about another grown man. I this is what's beautiful about the game, truly, it is you're absolutely red to live. Yeah, I mean, I think that's the beauty of the game. You know, there's a fierceness to it, a competitiveness to it, and yet there's

a soft side to all the players as well. You don't always see that on Sunday or Monday night or you know, whatever the game may be played, but there's there's a side of the players that clearly a lot of people don't know and don't understand that. That to me, that was always the kind of beauty of NFL films, you know, where I spent almost thirty years with you know, breaking down tape and working with Steve Sable and Ed

Sable and Ross kat Over, the wonderful people there. They humanized the game, and I think it's one of the key successes, integral parts of the success of the NFL that ended the NFL through NFL films humanized the game and it just once wasn't a bunch of slugs beating the hell out of each other. So I mean that helped grow the game. Herschel Walker, how does how does a soft side? He did ballet, which is as soft as you can get. Did you know that? I did

know that, but I never did ballet in college. I took modern and folk dancing is one of my courses I got. I got an help with footwork. Yeah. Absolutely can't get out of here without me asking this question as a giant fan. You talking about how I getting into the Hall of Fame? What about Eli? Is he a Hall of Famer? No, he's gonna be close. There's there's always, at least for me, a natural reaction yes or no, And I'm normally pretty good at it and I'm not gonna say no or yes. I think he

has kind of right in that bubble area. But we'll see as time goes on. I think he's deserving. You look, you know, super Bowl championships do mean a lot. They do mean a lot, and he's played his best in big games. You gotta give him credit for that. There are some lulls in this career that I think which will hurt him a little bit. But I'm not saying he's not going to get in. But I don't think he's a he's a he's a guarantee like Peyton was. Okay, but if you're in the playoffs. You can pick one

Manning in the playoffs. Okay, you got a strong offensive line. Which Manning are you picking in a time? You know, I'm very close. I am very close to Arch and Olivia. Just I want you to know that your honest and I could not pick one of their sons over the other. I don't want to make parents mad at me. What about Art Manning? Yeah, I wouldn't take Art. I wouldn't take Art. I love Art. Hey, there's another Manning coming up, by the way. You know, Cooper's son is playing down

in the New Orleans and he's like a sophomore. I think this year I'm talking about Art. Yeah, you talk about Are you talking about my contemporary? Oh? No, you might be right to Olive you. There's a young Arch coming up that is dynamite. He has college football's attention. I'll tell you that kid right now. Absolutely. Hey, I wanted to ask you. You've written a book called The Games That Changed the Game, and it highlights seven NFL games. But this is now eleven years old since that game

was published. What are some games that you would now put in that book that have changed the NFL? I do have some games on my radar. By the way, the Seven Games I'm working on the sequel. Dave Plout and I who collaborated with me on the first book, and Great co Sol we've had discussions about there have been some games, uh that that clearly have changed the game. And it was so much fun doing that book. It

took two years. I mean, I'm I'm a football geek, what every gonna call it, But to figure out seven games that really changed the way the NFL was played up until that time, it was very very difficult. I mean I researched a Patriots Chargers game in a museum in Boston and find the act, found the actual game film of that game. So because I want to talk about a championship game that the Charges and the Patriots played, and I got it. So it was one of the

games I used. And by the way, there are the game changes but it still remains the same, which is kind of bizarre. But I I, you know, I gotta do something about Andy Reid and the Chiefs. It was one of the as I look at a game, I gotta find a specific game mighty be the super Bowl, but a game that I think Andy changed how we think about the passing game and and that's that would probably one of I think it's probably about two or

three games. I would address one with defense. You know, the Ray Lewis defense is and the Ravens defense for years was was just phenomenal some of the concepts they had. But I have to find a specific game that really showed me what their defensive scheme was all about. But yeah, I'm working on a couple of couple of tricks. You do a lot off the field. How about the way the field goal has changed the game a little bit now that guys can kick past the fifty yard line.

I mean, you never used to see a game and you know that used to be out of range. Now, I mean, who knows guys are gonna be kicking eighty yard or soon. It's funny you say that, I got I got Jason Jones, my assistant, sitting with me right here, and we're at the practice morning and and they're kicking field goals and I'm going, this is incredible, the legs that these guys have. Now the distance they kicked the football.

And remember I held for Tom Dempsey, who, for a long period of time, you know, held the longest held the record the longest field of sixty three yards and Tom was about two hundred and sixty five pounds only on the day we had to weigh in other natives about to eighty five and people. I remember Tom was born with a club foot and had just like four by four two by four on the front of his shoe, and he could bomb. I mean, he could bomb the football.

But I'm watching these guys now, these soccer style kickers, are you know, fifty pounds They're knocking these seven yard field goals at practice. Though the town is definitely getting better, you should well, you know, if Sam didn't get drafted by Toronto, Olivia was about to get drafted because if you go scroll back on her Twitter, she kicked the bomb, a game winner right through the uprights. Yeah, very nice,

looked like Trevor Lawrence. Well, Johns. We won't take up any more of your time, but we gotta live with one question. As you kind of look at an a f C favorite and NFC favorite, and you're gonna be covering games for Westwood one this season, who are you really interested to see? And do you have a pick for both conferences? Yeah? I think Tampa Bay is is going to be very difficult to beat that. You know,

Tom's got all his weapon backs. Every player in the offense inve side of that football has already signed up for the Bucketeers. So you know, remember they didn't start out very well ash year, and they really they really peaked at at the end of the season. They were they were just dynamic as a season. War On and Bruce arians now is it's just a cool dude, you know, coaching the football team. I've known Bruce back from his days at Temple and he hasn't changed a bit. You know.

He just a good football coach and relates to people, uh, you know, a lot of different ways. And the guys love to play for him. They love to play for him. So I'm gonna say in the NFC, the Tampa by Buccaneer is gonna be hard to beat. And I'm gonna pick this one with my heart a little bit because I was born and raised just outside of Buffalo, New York. It was a Buffalo Bills season ticket holder growing up. So I think the Bills are the team to beat

in the a f C this year. I mean, Josh Allen has had just been unbelievable the growth, the maturation. Sean mcdermot's a terrific football coach, particularly from the defensive side of the football. And I think this might be the year of the Buffalo Bills. Janice, how do you feel about that? Well, it's a New York team, so I'll take it. I mean, I know, definitely Bills reside and play in New York. Giants gonna go over to my state of New Jersey to play their games, so

the Bills are should be New York's team. You That is a very good point. Yes, and they made one good point anyway, that's good. Yeah. I mean, you guys can't get the football in the end zone. I may become a Bills field fan myself. So that first preseason game, it looked like a middle school soccer game. I mean it was like, didn't nobody scored until like the last couple of minutes. So they mean nothing, they mean nothing. Forget it, get out of here, they mean nothing. Every

time the big plays it means something to me. So all right, no, no, don't don't get don't get all bound up about the preseason games. They're you know what they're called exhibition games. That's what they are. Absolutely well, this start was a pleasure. We really appreciate your insight rifle Ron the Polish rifle. That's my favorite. Johns, thank you so much, you bet, thank you guys. Great to be with you. Let's do it again down the road.

Every week we finish off our show with the Lions lock and we bring in Peter Andrew from bed MGM to help us know what bets we should be looking at this weekend. It's gonna be really fun once we get in regular season NFL play. Peter, I can't wait. But this weekend we've got a full slate of preseason games. Tell me what you're looking at, Tell me what you like. Yeah, well I heard you just talking about it before. I love the Jets against the Packers. Just frankly, not a

lot of people playing for Green Bay. They are playing for absolutely nothing. If anything, playing guys might be a detriment, getting them hurt potentially. On the other side, you have the Jets who are playing for a lot. New coach. He's trying to build a structure around that team. Zack Wilson I think looked pretty good. He got some time with some um, you know, first team offense against first team defense, I think he looked fairly well for his

first game. Ever, I think they are restricting him a little bit. We know he can run with the ball, we know he's a four or five guy. So it's gonna be interesting how that unfolds over the first couple of preseason games. But I love the Jets this week. As we go to other teams, I think there's a couple that stand out to me. Baltimore Ravens and and John Harball. Eighteen straight wins in the preseason. I don't

get it. I'm sure, I'm sure it'd be nice if that translated over to regular season wins, but it doesn't. But their minus minus three and a half against Carolina this actually would tie or maybe even beat the record for most preseason games one consecutively. So I feel like you need to go with them. So um so Ravens with the spread three and a half. And then as you look across a couple of other games, I think you have to look at Trey Lance justin fields. Those

guys are playing for something. They're going to be playing with first team offenses. They're gonna be, you know, playing against first team defenses. Real opportunity for them to solidify themselves as potential starters. Justin fields, I mean, an amazing couple of drives my expectations. He plays close to a half for Saturday. I like them to cover and I like the over thirty eight and a half. I think you're gonna start seeing more teams kind of developed with

their first team. I love the opportunity he has to to really push himself over a guy like Andy Dalton. The Aston Martin reference he gave it is spot on. He's the shiny toy that takes them somewhere from A to B faster. So if they want to accelerate this kind of rebuild, he's the guy to do it. We were just talking with Jaws about Eagles and Patriots. That's Thursday night when this airs. Eagles are one and a half point. Dog quarterback Jalen Hurts is really impressing. That's

what Rondorski was saying. In their joint practice with the Pats. They also have rookie wide receiver Heisman winner Davante Smith's brained mc l and training camp. He's on track to play Week one and be the lead receiver. So I like them in the season, but with this game Thursday night. What are you thinking, Eagles one and a half point? Dog? I like the paths. I like the paths to win out right. I think you have the combination of of

Mac Jones trying to prove himself. You have Cam Newton, who's I think solidified himself as a Week one starter. But between the two of them, over the course of a preseason game, you're probably gonna see at least a half of football from them. Again, this is the common team for me. Is guys that are playing in first teams, that are playing most of the game. I think they'll traditionally do better. Whereas some of the teams like the Packers that we just talked about, are going to be

playing a lot of second and third string guys. Those guys are playing for jobs. You have the guys like Mac Jones that really need to prove something. Given Cam always getting hurt, good chance that Mac Jones starts this year. Um, so I like them to win out right, Nice, I know who to bet on, all right, So we got both of you behind the Jets. You're calling the Pats two teams. I would never within my heart root four. But I'm on a street right now, so I'm gonna

I'm gonna put money on those two teams because I'm onnestdreak. Hey, you know, I will say to all our listeners, you've got to follow Janice on Twitter. It took me a minute to understand his language and that absolutely nothing he says is serious. But then once you listen that way and read that way, he is such a good Twitter follower. So are you such a good Twitter follow? Yeah? I mean you gotta have a strong stomach for it because I go in, but I appreciate it. Can you tell

us about some prop bets for this weekend? So what I've seen first couple of preseason games, there's a couple of players love and a coach I love too, So this is more for you know, full season. Obviously a lot of our props or future bets for for the full season of all seventeen weeks or all the team weeks. I should say this year you talked about m VP odds. Derrick Henry is a sneaky one plus five thousand. He got Julio Jones in the midst. Normally you'd see Derrick

Henry eight in the box. Everybody defended him. Julio Jones probably the best receiver in the league. He's gonna garner a lot of attention. Derrick Henry seems like an easy one, especially at that price. UM not saying it's a sure thing, but given the odds plus five thousand, you know, a hundred dollar beat lands a pretty significant amount of money. I love him to start from last week, you saw a defensive rookie of the year, Patrick Surtan, a second

dad was a pretty damn good cornerback. He's no different. He had to pick six in his first ever preseason game. Love his chances. And then you obviously go to the offensive rookie. The year you saw a lot of line movement. Trevor Lawrence went from tow to plus three twenty five, so he's regressed a little bit, but that's a lot to do. You know, Justin Fields again in trade Lance, those guys went from plus three fifty to plus seven hundred. Trade Lance went down from six hundred to plus seven fifty.

I think this is really the year of the quarterback, and one of these guys is gonna take it. You know, my money is on Justin Fields. I think there's such an opportunity for him to just again go over Andy Dalton. He's going to be a superstar on this league and people are about to find out sooner or later. Um, so you know you're investing a little bit early in some of these prop bets. But I think you have potentially you know, big winnings come into the season in

January February in the sports gambling world. And from your perspective in your office, do you feel like fans get too caught up in preseason and offseason storylines when they start to make these bets? One thousand percent yes. I mean, so Trey Lance has played one game and within one game he's played twenty five snaps or thirty snaps. He's actually fifteen percent of our handle or our liability for

offensive Rookie of the year. He's barely played, and I think there's a great chance he's a backup to Jimmy G. If Jimmy g stays healthy, he may not even play this season. So people do, you know, over invest their time and in the preseason, But that's kind of what it's for, is you get excited about some of these new guys. Kyle Pitts was another one the Falcons tight end and then obviously Trevor Lawrence being the first overall pick.

We need something to talk about. We're going crazy without NFL, without n C Double A, without basketball hockey and all that stuff. So we need something to some sort of rumors and some sort of some sort of information about our attention. Drama. We love it, we love the storylines. Hey, honest, did you hear the Jimmy G. I think you're safe

with that one. Let's let's screwge Garoffalo and stick with Jimmy G. Jimmy G. Yeah, Janine Garoffalo, Jimmy G. What do you think about his chances to to actually remain the starter with how good Trey Lance looked on that one eight yard bomb? Well, first off, I think we're gonna have to do one of those picture and of pictures where we can buy Jimmy G and Tony Sierra Grusa.

So so we make the true Garoffalo. But it really comes down to, uh, and I'm biaseduse I'm an I understand Jimmy G stays the quarterback and he gets into the playoffs if he stays healthy. If he doesn't stay healthy and he ends up missing out on the game or two, I think that's it. It's almost the Kaepernick Alex Smith situation. Alex Smith got hurt. You know, it's almost ten years ago now, and Colin Kaepernick became me the facto starter and stayed that way and they ended

up trading Alex Smith to the Chiefs. Jimmy g can be that good. He's a proven winning quarterback. I think there's no doubt about that. But he just can't stay healthy. I've I've kind of joked with my friends and said, you know, he can start the season five and oh, it gets hurt in Game six and then that's the last time we've seen again for the year. So it really comes down to that knee, comes down to that ankle, and we'll see what happens. Well, it's really fun talking

futures with you. Let's continue to do that throughout the month of August as the preseason goes on, and for all of our listeners, make sure you check out our Futures Friday. We're doing it all through August and we discuss these topics. We bring in experts. That's on Twitter, so follow at bet MGM on Twitter to make sure you keep up with at Futures Friday, where we really get into the nitty gritty with all of these awards. Peter Andrew, thank you so much. We will see you

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