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Gregg Rosenthal Talks NFL and Off-Season Moves

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This week on Unleashed, Oliva and Yannis are joined by NFL Network Analyst and host of the ‘Around The NFL’ podcast, Gregg Rosenthal. For Gregg, football is 365 days a year, 24/7. It’s a way of life. Gregg sits down to chat about some of the latest news around the NFL. Did you hear about Aaron Rodgers’ new contract? Is Russell leaving Seattle? This NFL off-season is heating up! Together, the trio also get the latest scoop on the NFL combine and hear Gregg’s thoughts about some of the other quarterbacks from around the league looking to make a change. Not to mention, later on hear about what to expect for the upcoming March Madness with BetMGM’s Peter Andreu, in this week’s Lion’s Lock!

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From the King of Sports Books comes the King Sports Podcast Unleashed, presented by bet MGM. Here's your host Jhannas Papas and Olivia Harlan Decker. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome everyone. This is Unleashed by bet MGM, the King of Sports Books. We are glad to have you with us. Jannas Pappas joins me. Janice Selection Sunday is coming up and you know, for the next month and a half, it's all we're gonna talk about March Madness. Are you ready. It's all

about these amateur kids. I can't wait to watch them play their hearts out for money they should and hopefully will be getting. But there's no more of an exciting event that happens in this country than March Madness. And boy do we need it. We need you kids to get our minds off of World War Three. You know they are getting paid now, they're getting paid. Yeah, yeah, you know, until I start seeing those those little endorsement deals in real money. You know, let's get real money.

I don't believe it. You don't believe it now? Are you one of those people who fills out so many brackets or do you do one and really stick with it and like hold yourself accountable. I do one. I do one, and I hold myself accountable. Yeah. So, and I like to always pick underdogs. Look, I bet, I don't bet. Maybe it's just because it's too hard for me to understand all the numbers. So I think that's

probably just an excuse. I just bet with underdogs and with my heart, and that's why I always lose money. I am good for bet MGM. That's why they hired me, because I make the money. I bet you'll never guess how many what kind of person I am when it comes to fill it out brackets about you'll never guess. I bet you you create different social security numbers and people you're like a fraudulent voter. There's probably like fifteen Olivia Harland Deckers with fifteen social security numbers, so you

can bet fifteen times on fifteen different teams. You are smart and you diversify, and that's why you're a winner, and I'm a loser. I do. I'm guilty. I make like three or four brackets because sometimes I'm like, I can't have this one team screwm me. So I'm gonna do one scenario where they lose, and I mean, you know that's how I rolled, honest, kind of a sellout over here. I'm telling you, I know Rodrigo's out there.

I know you gotta back up husband somewhere. Okay, you don't remember anything, but you remember that joke I made a couple of weeks ago. That's the only thing I remember Rodrigo because I got my private investigators out there searching for him. Right now, we're down there in Mexico checking every city and town to find who this guy is. Oh god, I can't believe you remember that check. That wasn't even a good one. Okay. You know what is a good one is our man who's gonna win some

money every week. You know, y'ren't even do this bad beat of the week, brad beat all the week. This one goes out to Dustin from Tennessee. My man had a ten team parlay just miss, just miss. He hit nine of them, your honest. He narrowly lost on a Texas Tech one point loss to Oklahoma State. Ouch. Oh, just talk about a bad beat. But Dustin gets a hundred bucks in bed MGM site credit to ease his pain.

Um man, that sucks. I'm always telling you honest, these parlays are the only way to make big money, but they always end up our bad beat winner. Yeah, but there you go hundred bucks. Hopefully you can make it count, make it worth it, you know, like saving Private Ryan. You suffered great losses. Make it a pyrate victory. Just turn it around down there, dusting makes something happen. You can do what I believe in you. That's heavy, heavy stuff. Speaking of heavy stuff, a lot of news broke today.

You know, we record on Tuesdays, and I'm beaming because the news just broke that Aaron Rodgers is remaining in Green Bay. Hallelujah, sing the chorus, get the cheese. I am so excited. He agreed to a four year, two hundred million dollar deal. Oh my gosh, it makes him the highest paid NFL player ever. A hundred fifty three million is guaranteed, plus his cap number goes down. It's a huge move by the Packers front office. They also

franchise tag Dvante Adams. Now, Aaron certainly wanted a lot of conversation about this decision, you know what I mean. He's like, he's like a girl deciding between a couple of prom dates. He doesn't shy away from the drama. A couple of days ago he said he was torn. Obviously, people thought Denver was where he would go to follow his offensive coordinator, and Denver's roster is pretty stacked, so not gonna lie. It would have been a good move,

but he's staying. He's loyal, he's staying. I can't complain. He gives us the best chance to win. I had a good feeling about this, be honest. When the Packers brought in quarterback coach Tom Clements, he came out of retirement a couple of weeks ago. Aaron loves this guy. They are tight, and Tom Clements wasn't coming out of retirement for Jordan's love. So this is exciting. This is

really exciting. It's a big day. And then, of course to put a cap on this that everyone was kind of keeping an eye on the Broncos, Well, good thing they had an eye on him and had their ear to the ground because Russell Wilson is going to Denver. I mean, what a day. There's so much to unpack here and we're going to bring in someone who knows all about it, NFL Networks, Greg Rosenthal. He is joining us. He was just at the combine. He's gonna fill us

in on everything that happened at the combine. But honest, those two big pieces of news, what are your initial thoughts. I'm kind of speechless, well, never speechless, but you know what I mean, Yeah, you could talk. I am I'm excited for Green Bay fans, I'm excited for Denver, and I am very upset as a Giants fan. I was hoping that we would see Wilson in a Giants jersey, but now I gotta look at this dukie once again,

or it's a draft pick. I don't know. Maybe we could talk to our esteemed guests about it, but I don't know what the Giants are gonna do. And we're going with Daniel Jones again. I mean, we didn't make a move, we got draft picks. What are we doing at the quarterback position. It's just another disappointing offseason. That's the way it looks like it's turning out. As a Giants fan. But congratulations to you like you guys haven't

enjoyed enough recently. Unbelievable, unbelievable, So congrats to Denver. Denver's got a Denver's got a good look right now. I mean Russell Wilson thirty three years old, these as old as Jesus was at his peace. So thirty three is a man pee. Now, I've never heard that joke for that, like one every comedian might have in their back pocket. That's pretty good. The thirty three is always in the back pocket. And you either got a Jesus joke or

a Larry Bird joke ready to go? Oh god, that's good. Yeah. No, Wilson and Denver is great. They have an all pro left tackle, they have a great wide receiver room, they have a great tight end and no a fan. I I think the Broncos are ready to go. They might get von Miller back from the Rams. I mean, there's there's a lot that can happen with the Broncos. So we will keep tabs on that, okay, honest, Well that is the news for today. Now I want you to go ahead and unleash on one thing, just one thing

you feel passionately about this week. You take off, friends, It's all right. Let's talk about one of my favorite sports, the UFC m n A NIX Martial Arts. I love this sport. It's gotten so big. I don't know if it needs the theatrics that we're watching right now. I understand it's a growing, growing, growing, growing sport, and the theatrics and the ship talking, you know, brings eyeballs, makes money.

But now it seems like the biggest star is filling the shoes of the previous biggest star being Connor McGregor and ship talking to a point where you start to wonder as a fan, is this crossing the line now? As you mentioned before before we got on air, that if it makes me feel a little uncomfortable, then maybe it is a little too far. I'm talking about Colby Covington's this last week obviously big pay per view Gate again, sold out arena again. He's become a star, Kobe Covington's.

I love watching him fight. This was an amazing storyline that, in my opinion, didn't need the ship talking to the level that Colby takes it to to sell it because you had two former teammates and best friends who have now become rivals fighting each other. You know, they were former training partners, they were part of the same team.

It was a rivalry between gym's and former friends and two great fighters who put on exciting fights, and Colby just he talks about people's kids, he talks about people's wives, he talks about their marital status. I mean to me, it just seems like it's crossing the line. And it's akin to when McGregor, you know, started throwing things at busses and got arrested trying to hype his fight with Kabeb, and then he's talking about Khabib's religion and things that

I just don't think you need to do. The sport is big enough now that you don't have to appeal to like the casual casual casual fan by turning it into the Real Housewives. It's starting to get a little to w w E for me, and I just think the UFC has to do something. I think people need to get fined. There is a line. I know, as a comedian, I'm all about free speech and everything, but there is a line, and talking about people's kids and their wives and what kind of father a person is

is just going too far. So Colby, Colby, Covington, Colby Chaos. I'm putting you onnoticed and you need to stop, and you need to go to church, my friend, and wash that mouth out with salt. Okay, enough enough, let's clean up the sport a little bit. That was good honesty. You have a conscience. You you really don't like it

to get ugly, and I like that about you. Mine is going to seem a little counterintuitive to that, because I know this guy is getting a ton of crap right now, and I don't want to pile on it. I really don't. But as a professional athlete, if you're not performing, you are a fair game. But I would never call anyone a name. So for my unleashed I'm going to take things over to the NBA. Like a lot of people, I had a feeling the Lakers and Russell Westbrook would be a bad fit, but wow, I

did not think it would be this bad. I don't think he's a Laker next year. I really don't. I think he's out. I don't know why Lebron got to run this team and bring him in. So let's look at where they were before Russell Westbrook became a Laker. Two years ago, Lakers won the title in the bubble. Everyone acts like that was so long ago, that was recent. Then they were nineteen and eight. Last year when Lebron and A d were healthy. That was a great pairing.

No I d has health problems. Obviously, last year there was no chemistry issue. Everyone got along. Lebron liked the gang. They needed all these pieces that they had a trade now to get Russell Westbrook big trade. It costs him a bunch, and it turns out a lot of those pieces were pretty necessary to keep this machine going and compliment the new Lebron James, whose game is different than it used to be. He's more on the perimeter, he's

crushing inside less. Now this is coming off a huge fifty point game, but in general, in general, Lebron is a different player, still extremely effective, but different schemes. So Westbrook is on his four team in four years, and you know it's not just his offensive numbers, shooting percentages, turnovers that are concerning. But it's really to me when I watched a lack of intensity and focus on the

defensive end, he's kind of roaming around. He's losing his man and as a VET, he should be owning that behind closed doors, taking responsibility. But we've yet to see that take shape. Even back at U c. L A, Westbrook wasn't known for incredible ball handling, dribbling or even shooting. That was on his scouting report before he was drafted. He was known as a good defender. He was the PAP ten Defensive Player of the Year. He could get to the rim and penetrate and always known for being

a hard working former walk on. Remember he's a former walk on. But something isn't right in l A this time around for Westbrook. And if you don't believe anything I just said, turn on his postgame press conferences. That's pretty cringe e because when the fans started booing, which is horrible. I am very against home fans booing for a team, like, come on, just drink your twelve dollar here and cheer. That's what That's all you got to do.

It's easy. But afterwards they asked him if this would bother him, you know What'd he take it home with him? He said, no, I'm going to go home to my beautiful family and move on. One great answer to your buddy, Right if someone asked you, man, that suct they were doing you. But you don't say that to your fan base, to your own or to your coach, to your teammates. And that's who's all watching this. And I think it

shows a little bit of apathy. And then the other night reporter asked, this must be a little different than what you imagined, and he got very defensive, and he said, I didn't have any expectations. And the reporter said, well, you must have thought you'd make long playoff runs and maybe win a championship, which is a very fair question. And he got defensive. He said, you don't know what

I expected. You know, all this stuff, Well, you don't come to play with Lebron James in purple and gold and just think it's gonna be a whole hum year, you know. And then recently this made me really sad. He said he doesn't want to bring his kids to games because people are booing him, they're calling him names. That's horrible. But the reality is the Lakers are oh in four versus the Clippers in their home arena since getting Russell, even though most of those meetings have been

without Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. The Lakers are seven games under five hundred, their ninth in the West. In our trade deadline, Genie Buss took a stand saying they're not cleaning up this mess. This is what Lebron wanted. It's her team, but it's his mess. So they're kind of going down with the ship here. They're the Lakers. They'll come back, but boy, this experiment did not work. It is drama in Los Angeles right now. You couldn't write a better script. It is the entertainment capital of

the world, and this is not going good. There are big problems there. He doesn't want to be there. Lebron doesn't want him to be there now. Yeah, I unleashed about people going too far. It's not too far for fans in New York or Los Angeles. Big market teams, you know, high population density, that's what they do. You know, they boo, they boo, They have expectations. You're not playing in Okay See anymore where they're just happy to be on television. They're happy to have Kevin Harland called their

game because they're making a playoff run. You're playing in Los Angeles, you're playing with Lebron James, who's still I mean that his story is not up there with Tom Brady, what he's doing at his age, considering he started at eighteen. The miles that's on that kid, and how many times he's been in the playoffs and played in the Olympics and to drop, like we just said, he's just coming

off a fifty plus point game. It's incredible to see the shape he keeps himself in his standard and Russell Westbrook is he's just not a winner, man, He's just he's starting to make Kevin Durant look good for why

he left. You know, a lot of people gave Kevin Durant a lot of slack for what he did, but now people are starting to go, like, you know what, maybe Kevin Durant was like, I can't play with this kid, you know, like you said, the defense, the effort, and for him to get mad at fan ends that they're calling him Russell west Brick. I mean, come on, that's that's basketball, that's not that's not talking about your family, your kids. So he's he's overreacting and what an unleashed Olivia.

You are dead on. This is a problem, and Russell Westbrook needs to be sent down to the Z League if they had one right now, whoa wow, Yeah we took a different stance on now. Yeah. Man, it'll just be crazy if if he ends up on his fifth team in five years. A former m v P like this is this is quite a saga, but there's a lot else going on in the world of sports. Let's go ahead and bring in Greg Rosenthal to hear what's going on in the n f L. Here's Greg for him.

The NFL is three d sixty five days a year, twenty four seven. You can hear him on the Around the NFL podcast. NFL Network analyst Egg Rosenthal joins us now and Greg. Pretty quiet day around your office. I assume you picked the perfect day to have this schedule. That was like, my mind is still recovering from Aaron Rodgers signing the contract, which I thought was going to be the big thing of the day. And then, in perfect fashion, Russell Wilson in his trade to the Broncos

made Aaron Rodgers a b story. And I guess I'm a small person that I kind of enjoy that a little too. I would love to start with Russell because that one blindsided me a little bit. I'm a Packer fan. I've been following the Packer story very closely. But what did you make of the Broncos and Seahawks making this epic trade? And I mean, where did you expect it? They're putting it out there through you know, different insiders that the Rodgers deal had nothing to do with the timing.

I mean, I don't buy that. I do buy that they started this process two weeks ago because of trade. This big doesn't come together that quickly. I look at it from kind of the global NFL level and just think it's fascinating because Russell Wilson wanted out a year ago. He was on the record, his agent was on the record wanting out with three years left on his contract, and he got it done a year later. And to me, that changes like how NFL trades can be run. It's

a little more NBA like. And it also says to me that Pete Carroll was ready for this divorce too. Because people have asked the question, does Pete Carroll want to be there during the rebuild? It's like, who do you think is making this trade? Pete Carroll runs this organization with more power than any coach in the entire NFL. Their owner, Paul Allen died a couple of years ago. Jody Allen has taken over, but he's doing what he wants and I don't think he's trying to rebuild. And

maybe they'll step back at the quarterback position. But I think he's gonna want to prove people wrong and try to compete this year and thinks that he's going to be there for a while more. And the fact that they essentially chose Pete Carroll over Russell Wilson, I think supports that that he's not going anywhere and time soon. See Pete Carroll seventy years old. It's obvious he wouldn't want to be a part of a rebuild. But and then Jody Allen had just said they weren't interested in

a trade. That's why I'm still kind of looking for clues. Yeah, everything that they said about Russell Wilson was just saying things to say. I think now you know, just saying what they can and if you listen carefully, they never totally box themselves into a corner. Pete Carroll, he basically was saying, look, we're not interested and traded him, but he didn't shut the door if someone was gonna come calling. And the price that they got for him to first

two seconds. A good young tight end and no a fan who I like a lot, Shelby Harris, who I think is a good veteran defensive Lineman that people don't know a lot about. But there's a reason why the Broncos paid him so much money last year. He's a good player. Drew lock is just a guy to compete at quarterback. I don't think he's gonna really matter with the woman. They got a lot for him. I don't think it's smart to be too was in your seven

year old head coach over your franchise quarterback? But this is not Aaron Rodgers. To me, He's not a top five quarterback in the NFL, and so they at least got a representative Paul for trading a guy that good. Do you think his uh, his health had anything to do with it? Is there anything that they know that we're not privy to. Is there anything that puts him in question as far as how much more he has left in the tank? No, but I do think his play over the last two years had something to do

with it. People put last year's struggles totally on that finger injury, and he was very cautious early in the season and more importantly, in the second half of the season. Was the worst stretch of play Russell Wilson's ever had in his career. It wasn't two or three games, it was eight or nine games. He was hurting them in that stretch. And I think he's a guy who's always relied on his athleticism, holding the ball forever and making

a play. And they've tried a lot of different offensive coordinator is with him and they never quite found the right one. And you know that's on Pete Carroll too. But I don't think there was the belief from Pete Carroll and John Schneider that Russell Wilson was in that tier of Aaron Rodgers and now Herbert and Mahomes. I don't think they viewed him that way, or else they wouldn't have traded him. Yeah, just to follow up, I'm a huge Giants fan, so there was so much hope

that he was coming to New York. He I think at some point intimated that he wanted to come to New York. So what happened there? And what do the Giants do? Now? Are we stuck with this dukie? I was just calling him a dukey because you know what I'm sick of. I'm sick of seeing Daniel Jones. I've had enough bad facial expressions from quarterback. He's not the franchise guy. What do we do now? So two questions, what happened there? And what do the Giants do now?

I just don't think they were ready to give up this hall at any point. First of all, as you know, they've changed who's running the ship. But I don't think either GM, whether it is Joe Shane coming in or Dave Getleman on the way out, was ready to make this kind of deal. I think you're gonna have the Daniel Jones and Mitchell Robinsky poop poop pider there. And I think Daniel Jones is the better player at the two and that I think, I think he might be

okay in the right system. I think Brian Dabels a really good coach, and I think it maybe the upside is okay to a little better than okay, and he'll turn your opinion around. But he's not gonna be Russell Wilson, I hope. So for then, what about over to Green Bay? As you saw the news break today about Aaron Rodgers, did you basically see that coming? Because when I saw the Packers bring back Tom Clements as the quarterback coach, I was like, Oh, it's done. He's staying Tom Clements

isn't coming back to coach Ordan Love. Absolutely. I think Aaron Rodgers was using every leverage lever that he could pull over the last couple of weeks, and that's why you started hearing more about the Broncos, more about him not really making a decision. That's how you get the two million dollars over four years. I don't know the details, but at some point it was less than that, and then it started going up, and it started going up, and I I said all along, like money solves everything. Here.

You couldn't have told me a year ago if they had offered him two hundred million dollars over four years then that he wouldn't have just taken it. And everyone said it was this personal thing, and I said, okay, but he's negotiating, so that means there is a number that will get him to sign. And we found out what that number was today, in addition to the relationship repair that they've done over the last year, and I

think it makes sense. I do not think it makes sense for either side to have a divorce, So I totally think it was the right move for Rogers and the Packers. So now this just makes me question at the David Bactier wedding that he just officiated. Do you think he like had a couple of cocktails and started telling people like, just way big news this week. What

do you think he said at this wedding? I don't know, man, I mean, Aaron Rodgers feel like he could keep things close to the vest, like even his best friends don't know what he's gonna do. So I think he is a businessman and h he I think I probably knew this was the likely outcome, not just the last couple of months. I definitely believe he knew this was the likely outcome, even going back a year. I think he knew it, and yet you didn't hear that much talk

coming out of his friends, So I don't know. I think he probably was keeping everyone off off guard with some sarcastic jokes and everyone was like, what did you really mean with that? Because I think everyone in his life thinks that yeah, yeah, no one knows what he means. Yeah. I wanted with that money, what kind of improvements he's gonna do to his house? I mean I would just move out of Green Bay and just helicopter in from a warm climate. I mean, you know, or I don't know.

I don't know. Maybe by Wisconsin. I mean, is he the richest person that's ever been in Wisconsin besides your grandfather. I'm talking to Olivia. Yeah, he's got to be up there. I guess, you're honest, will be up there at some point. They're holding into their their homegrown heroes. Maybe he could work that into the deal that he like flies in kind of like Tony Dungee style. At the end of his career as a coach, he would like go back to Tampa between Sunday and Wednesday. Maybe Rogers could do

that and go back to California. Greig, I'm our resident Wisconsin person, and I keep trying to have Johanna's come visit in the summer because then he'll get it. But he seems to hate the Upper Midwest. He just did a comedy show in Minneapolis. He thought it was a dump. Yeah, Minneapolis was a nice town. It's I'm sure it's beautiful in Wisconsin. But I'm someone that grew up in western Massachusetts and that was the last winter I wanted, and for the most part I've stuck with that was high school.

So I'm I understand. There you go, Well, speaking of that part of the country. You were just in Indianapolis. Tell us about the combine and your biggest takeaways, especially as you kind of look at draft order and a mock draft in your head. Oh Um, I don't know if if that much changed. Certainly Jordan Day as it's hard to imagine him slipping out of like the top fifteen to seventeen, which I wouldn't have guessed. I don't think there's a lot of players that hurt themselves at

the top level. I think with this Seahawks trade, they now have the Broncos first round pick, So spinning head to where Denver is in the first round, it does make I mean, where um Seattle is in the first round. It doesn't make you wonder if whoever they like the best, whether that's Malik Willis or Kenny Pickett, whoever it's gonna be,

ends up getting taken pretty high. Because one thing I think has been true about the draft, you could make a lot of money predicting that quarterbacks are going to get higher than they're predicted to go in mid February, and I think that'll be the same here. These guys are gonna go higher than people expect and especially with Seattle for instance, now Needia quarterback to I think that's

that's gonna happen. You mentioned Kenny Pickett's uh, you know, his hand sized measures at eight point five good for third smallest by quarterback in Combine history since thousand and three. I believe is this a real thing that scouts were considering or are we just desperate for NFL news right now?

They do consider it. It definitely is a factor. You know, you still hear about Jared Goff when he struggles in cold weather that they put it on his hands, and his hands were you know, half an inch bigger than than pickets who who are smaller than basically any big quarterback. But he played in Pittsburgh, like he played great in Pittsburgh. He played in cold weather games in Pittsburgh, and that's generally the concern when it comes to smaller hands and

weather situations, whether it's rain or cold weather. And he excelled this season in Pittsburgh in cold weather games. So I can't imagine it matters too much. Yeah, y honest, you know who else had nine inch hands that you might be surprised? Uh? Who? Joe Burrow, Ryan Tannehill. Now it is half an inch bigger, but those are still small hands in NFL quarterback history worked out for them. Well, you know, it could just not be about cold weather.

It could be that maybe the old myth is true, that something else and they just don't want guys feeling uncomfortable in the lockingroom. You know, you don't want an insecure quarterback. You want a nice headspace feels confident in the showers. That could be it too. I'm just saying I'm no reporter, but I'm saying there could be a connection where you want just some confident quarterback knowing that you know he could he could shower next to the

boys and feel good about himself. I don't know, Greg, you don't have to respond. That would be That would be the next level. I mean, they get pretty deep into these players. That would be. That would be a next level analysis that even some of these guys I've never heard from, but you know, you never know. It's behind closed doors. Hey, I played three When I do

GM moves, I'm three D. Sorry. Reports from Kenny Pickett out of the combine we're not super flattering, Whereas Malik Willis seemed to kind of get people's attention a little bit more for off the field, people just light up talking about Malik Willis when you look at those too. First of all, do you think they're the two best quarterbacks in this year's draft or Matt Correll slip in there as well. Yeah, I think there's not a lot a huge difference between any of them except for total upside.

And that's Willis. And I just think seeing him in person and then also getting to hear from him and see that he's a guy you can imagine leading a group of NFL players is just going to have at least one team fall in love with him because he does have the highest ceiling, he does have the biggest arm, he does have the most athleticism. I think Desmond Ritter helped himself a lot. He's another guy I think will get drafted higher than people think because his ceiling looks

higher with his athleticism. But Willis coming off of Josh Allen developing in the way that he did, and certainly Herbert were coming off a couple of guys where just the ross tools, the most talented guys have excelled. And in this class, that's Willis. You know, he didn't care who was running when they were doing the go rounds. He was just going to throw the ball as far as he couldn't, even if it wasn't complete, just to

while the scouts, and I think it totally worked. Yeah, So the Jaguars have the first overall pick again, just like the Browns a couple of years ago. Who do you think is first off the board after everything you've gathered?

My friend, it's a great question. Therey franchise tag Cam Robinson on Tuesday, and so that's their left tackle, and so to me, that was a strong indicator you really got to draft to tackle at one and then put him to the to the right side, I don't know, so that indicates a pass rusher to me, would be more likely at one. Adan Hutchinson didn't do anything at the combine to to make you think that he wasn't

going to be the first edge rudger up there. But there's such talented guys that every team could view it a little differently. Trayvon Walker had a monster combined, but Hutchinson really feels like the safest pick in terms of his production and his athleticism, and that Cam Robinson move on Tuesday not gonna get a lot of attention with all the quarterback news that happened, but I think that is a strong sign that they're not going to take a tackle number one. Yeah, Aidan Hutchinson was a Beast

Heisman Trophy finalist last year. Fourteen sacks last year. Now I kind of like them. I like whenever college player sticks around the neighborhood and goes to the nearby NFL team Detroit has the number two pick. Do you kind of like that fit and how he would work into that culture. Yeah, he fits perfectly there, and they want

pass rushers. That's that's how they're building their team. They were already pretty good upfront in Detroit, but they can't imagine there's a wide receiver or certainly a quarterback that they'd be considering that high, or or a cornerback for that matter. I don't think Sauce Gardner, who's probably the first cornerback off the board and solidified that at the combine, is going that high. So it's going to be a

pass rusher. And like I said, I think certain teams might view different guys differ only there there's a thought that maybe some of these Georgia guys have a little higher upside than Hutchinson. I don't know if I totally buy that. His combine times were also fantastic other than the forty, you know, the short shot, all the three cone, all that fun stuff. So he's got the production, he's got the measurements, he's gonna go. I believe in the top two. I'm just going out on a limb here.

I met when I was in UM Minneapolis, I met a NFL prospect who just came from the Combine, Luke go DECKI do you know who he is? I'm just going for it. Maybe not. He was from CMU, I don't but I'm not like the Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network here. I do not know Luke Goodecki. Alright, scrap it. Central Michigan guy, Central Michigan guy from Wisconsin who was a big fan of Sam Decker. I was just going for it. But hopefully good luck, Luke. Whatever whatever happens,

I hope you make it. That was a great bug, honest, I hope he's listening. Okay, Greg wed like to play a game with a lot of our guests. I'd love to play one with you if you're up for it. Okay, this one is based on amusement parks. We wanted to take you on a ride called the Quarterback Carousel. Basically, we give you a quarterback on this constantly moving ride, and you tell us what team seats they are taking

on the carousel. You ready, Okay, that's good? Okay. The first one, Jimmy Garoppolo, forty Niners have made it clear he's available in a trade. He'll be rehabbing from shoulder surgery. Not too attractive. But what do you think I kind

of like the cults for him. M hmm. I think the cults have made it clear they want out of the Carson Wentz business, Like the owner made them show up to a meeting the night that Wentz blew that final game against the Jaguars, and by all accounts read them the riot act that like, We're not going into another season with Carson Wentz. So I think he will be an excell Holt. And then when I look at the players available, I think they are one team that would give up a pick for Jimmy g Okay, that's

a good one. How about Derek Carr entering the final year's five year extension, had career high passing yard this season, but more impressively kept rowing the boat in the face of chaos and heartache and adversity. Was so true to Raider nation, saying he'd rather leave the game than leave the team. I think he said, so where does he end up? I think he stays in Vegas. I believe Josh McDaniels wanted to work with him, because why wouldn't he.

I think he fits in that sort of offense where you change the scheme each and every week, uh your matchup type of team. The downside here is like Derek Carr is now the fourth best quarterback in the a f C West. It's a good quarterback, and he's probably the worst one in the division. And I would if I had to pick the worst roster in the division, even though I don't think the Raiders are bad, I mean they're a playoff team, they would be the worst roster in the Division two. They gotta see if car

and McDaniels really mesh. They've they've hardly met at this point. It's tricky because he wants huge money and he is a wild card in the Kyler Murray sweepsticks. I don't know if he's coming up on the carousel, but car is the only one I can see that has value that if Kyler Murray is an ex cardinal, that actually another team has another quarterback to offer that would make some sense in a possible trade. Well, let's go right to Kyler Murray. He wants a new contract, his agent

put out a novel about his time in Arizona. His agent also represents Cliff Kingsbury, who just got an extension, by the way, and Kyler wants a new contract before the draft one. Does that happen or is he out? I think he's out. I think move today with Wilson to really puts Kyler Murray on the front burner. You asked what I heard at the combine, I should have mentioned I heard that it's going to get ugly between these two sides, and I think it's already spilled into

the public. I think it's pretty clear that the front office, the coaches, and then Kyler on the other side, I have sort of been lining up in terms of a power struggle, and one of those two sides just got extensions through and the other is getting a lot of negative reports about in the media, where you can probably guess where they come from, including maybe from the very top, and so he is the guy I think that is next. I actually do believe he's going to be an ex cardinal.

If I had to pick one team that would pay the absolute most for him, I think it would be Washington. But I think Washington, Carolina, Las Vegas, those are all teams that you could look at. Wow, how about Jamis Winston and Nola? Where will he be the same place moment? I think he stays. Yeah, I think he ends up staying. I think they kept everyone that they possibly could, and I think they liked what they saw out of him, and ultimately it's sort of he's worth more to them

than he's worth to anyone else. Okay, what about Carson Wentz. You mentioned you think he is no longer a cult that that's been painfully clear. But someone's got to take him. Man. I already gave Kyler to Washington. I kind of want to flip it, and just for fun, it would be Kyler in Vegas, car in Arizona, and then I would give Carson went to Washington, who never seems like they get nice things, and so this would be a nice thing.

Washington's got some pieces, though, they just had a good quarterback. They do, but they I think like they got shut out in this Russell Wilson thing. I don't doubt at all that they offered just as much or more. And this is where their reputation, their lack of success there, drama that they've had over the last two decades, really I think comes into play because he had a no trade clause and so Russell Wilson essentially picked where he

wanted to go. And I personally have no doubt that they would have offered just as much to Seattle, but that he wouldn't have wanted to go there. I thought he was going there. It's where he's from. He posted that picture with Jonathan Allen. I thought he was going to be a commander for sure. Okay, you honest take us home. Last one. Last one, of course, not least and maybe most improbable. But Tom Brady. Do see him in uniform? Or is he just going to be working

on Brady Brandt? I mean, no, one's going to go back and tell me that I'm wrong about this, So let's pick the most fun answer, which he's a forty niner. I mean, when they signed Brian Greasy to be their quarterbacks coach over the weekend, who's given up a massive salary as the Monday night football announcer to become a quarterbacks coach. And I think like, who was with Tom Brady uh at Michigan, who's had a great relationship with

Tom Brady ever since then? I don't know. I think you can connect some dots here of Tom Brady spending some time in his his childhood bunk bed over the last month or so. Uncertainly, the way that he's talking, I just kind of can't imagine the Bucks allowing him to do this or giving him up. But maybe the forty Niners would give up a hall to go get him. Man, I can't imagine him retiring the way that he did. Yeah, I just can't imagine he retires with an Instagram post.

So I think you're right. I can't either. And that makes me think, when I'm being truthful, not with the carousel stuff, that that the Bucks would hold him hostage and make him play there or nothing else. And if they don't pick up a big name, if they decided to just go like the blame gather and Kyle trash Grout, who's the second round pick they took last year, then it's like they can just keep the seat warm and just ready for Tom to slide right in when he

wants to come back. Was there anything more relatable than when Tom Brady said he wanted a lot of family time, and five weeks later he said, no, I'm good. I saw the family. I'm good. It's like when you want to go on vacation but you're like on the second dinner and you're like, God, you guys are intolerable. Yeah. I was wondering when people said, like, look, Giselle, you know she holds a lot of sway and she she wants him to do this, so like, what do you

think she's wanted the last six off seasons? Like this is not a new thing, and he's ultimately made the final call the last six off seasons and got in his way and I think he might once again. Uh that was fun. I don't know about you, guys. I'm dizzy on that carousel. I need to get off that. Hear us all, Greg, thanks so much for joining us. You can follow Greg on Twitter at Greg Rosenthal. That's Greg with two geez two geez all the better? Thank you, Greg,

three gee, thanks Olivia, thanks you honest, Thanks man. All right, that was amazing talking to Greg with two geez Olivia. I don't know if you're you said you're thinking of naming your kid a German name. I just hope it's not Dirk with two kids. That would be weird. Dirk Decker out speaking of German kids who are not German. Let's bringing in our betting expert from bet MGM. He looks like he's holed up in a basement somewhere and asking for ransom money. I never surprises us with his

audio or where he is. He's all over the world. Give it up for the Great Peter Andrew everybody. I was sitting there hoping it wasn't like wolf House that was the name, gonna be Olivian sandwich use and so Dirk would. Dirk is certainly upgrade there. But uh yeah, I'm in the office today. I know most people can't see the boxes behind me, but we're moving offices and moving up to a different floor. So exciting times at bet MGM. Yeah, I'll say I haven't seen a headpiece

like that since the movie boiler Room. Are you pitching chop stock? Are you? Are you pitching phony stocks on the side to grandparents? I did Giovannia Rubis is one of my favorite actors, so I guess uh, I do got a little boiler room in me. Oh my god. Other news around the NFL that we just talked with Greg Rosenthal about is the blockbuster trade Seahawks and Broncos and then Aaron Rodgers signing a four year deal with the Packers. That made me so happy. But how did

that affect the futures trade market? Yeah? So, first off, love that Russell Wilson's out of my division now, so good RISI, good riddance. Uh, Seahawks are going to be in rebuild bad now for the next couple of years. But Packers one, I mean an incredible deal. I think Aaron Rodgers has an agent. I don't think he negotiates himself. Hundred fifty three million guaranteed. Good for him. I don't know what I do with one million. Nonetheless, one fifty three.

But odds changed pretty drastically, so they were plus fourteen hundred now they're already plus a thousand. I can see that still moving, especially as pieces start to kind of fall in place when they you know, re signed Vante and shore up the defense and bring back a lot of the team. I think they're gonna have to be really clever now because of their cap next year I think is going towards Aaron Rodgers. So that's an interesting

problem to have for La Fleura and the team. But they're right up there again in their their favorite and bringing that offense back. You know they're gonna be there and they're a lock for the division as they have been the last couple. Another selfish question for me, I assume we got a lot of listeners in New York. We've got a high population density. I assume a lot of them are Giants fans like me. So another selfish question. They got the fifth and seventh pick, Now what do

they go for? What are they what are they looking to fill? There are so many voids on that team. I'll be clear and saying Daniel Jones I don't think is the answer for that team. But this is not a quarterback heavy draft. I think you have to shore up the other pieces and then have someone fall in your lap. Whether it's I'll use Jim as an example, a guy that can win that maybe isn't the game changer that you need. I don't think it's Daniel Jones,

but the offensive line the defense. I think those are two things that need to be addressed. What happens with sa Kwan Barkley, he's clearly not the same s Kwan Barkley before the A c L injury. Do you address running back too? So there's plenty more positions other than just quarterback, but there they're a couple of years away, and uh, I think you have to build that into your line first, so that when you bring the quarterback in, he's not getting beat up and beat around like Daniel

Jones was the last couple of seasons. Well, Pete, this week we saw March madness really begin finally begin as conference tournaments started on Wednesday, so exciting. They'll wrap up this weekend, but give us some early favorites before we know what's going to happen here. Yeah, already this week has been crazy, Olivia. I think you liked my two

yesterday talking about Chattanooga. Some of these like lower tier you know, divisions conferences are crazy buzzer beaters, like it's March, and it's already amazing as we get into bigger conferences are which are kicking off today and tomorrow. We're recording a little bit before we dropped the pod bailor. I look at as a sure thing plus two ten to to win the Big Twelve, their minus the thousands to

be a one seed. As they go into March Madness into the tournament next week, I think they run away with the conference. I think that's one of my probably clearer favorites. And I think at plus two ten, you're getting great Valley, so you're still getting plus money hundred dollar bet when you get an extra two bucks, not too shabby. Big East is an interesting one because there are a lot of really good teams, and I think

there are some overinflated teams like Providence. I want to stay away from the Villanova, the Seaton, Hall and Yukon part of the bracket because those teams are all conversing against each other. You have Craton, which is in the top of the bracket that's gonna play. I think Marquette then potentially play an overrated Providence team. They can easily see themselves in the final. Their plus twelve hundred to

win the Big East Tournament. There's great value there. The road to the final is so much simpler than a team like Nova that's gonna have to go through Yukon, Seaton Hall, Saint John's St. John's being a home team there, so I think you have to go where there's the clearest route. That's happened in the past, when Seaton Hall one, when Yukon is one brivious times when they used to be in the Big East, the road less traveled or the road less difficult always finds you a nice slot

into the final. So Big East is gonna be a fun one this week at the Garden. And then the last one, which is my god, up in the air, is this is the Big Ten. I'd probably go two different ways here. Michigan plus nine hundred, they've turned it into a different gear these last couple of weeks. And then Perdue. I think they've looked like the strongest team in the Big Tent for some time. Sorry, Sam Decker, Wisconsin terrible loss against Nebraska the other day. That was

that was a tough one. You know, they had the conference regular season locked up. Well now they're co champs. Now they're co champs, but that's about the worst co champ you could possibly after losing in Nebraska. Um, all kidding aside. I really like that team, love Johnny Davis, but I think that's a team I'm looking I'm already looking towards the tournament for I don't think they're going to perform in the Big ten tournament. I think they're

they're more focused on next Thursday, next Friday. So I'm gonna go, you know, a short priced with perdue it too and change and then Michigan. I'm gonna throw a flyer on then plus nine hundred. Hunter jack In is the kind of guy, big man in the middle that I think can lead them through a long weekend like this will be and then as they get into next week, could make some noise. But man, it's it's gonna be crazy these next three to four weeks. We've got a ton of stuff lined up at bet m GM. We're

gonna tease later in the week. We're gonna tease our bracket challenge that we're gonna do. Everybody's gonna love that. We've got a big number there if you predict the perfect brackets. So so much to look forward to. It is going to be an awesome March in early April. Let me just ask you about some of the lines in the NBA since we're post All Star Game. After the break I mean this marriage and Philly looks really good and Beat is playing out of his mind. Yokich

is playing out of his mind. I think he has three triple doubles and the rest of the NBA only has two. Since the break, has the line changed for their m v P odds? And what do you think the Sixers look like going into you know, playoffs? Yeah? Mine has dramatically changed because Embiad is now a shorter

price favorite. Like you said, him and Harden playing together in any which way you look at it, spacing the floor for Embiad, I think some of the really clever passing between the two and having a big man like that in Bid to me is the runaway favorite. But I saw a tweet from George Carl the other day, out of any player that he's ever seen in Denver, he said, Yoki is the best he's ever seen. That is high praise from one of the probably most renowned

coaches to ever touch the hardwood. So Yokich is right there. But the way in Beats playing, the way the East is just so different to the West. I mean it's just wide open. And know I mentioned I think it was last week, really like the heat but the way the Sixers are playing, they can easily run away with this thing. There is not a lot of competition. Whereas you look at the West and you got the Dubs, You've got the Sons, you got Memphis, You've got a lot of teams at the top can make some noise.

Sixers theoretically could run away with it and not be particularly close to they get to the conference finals or or NBA Finals, Come Come Main June. All right, that's good stuff. We covered kind of everything there. Peter Andrew, thank you so much for joining us again. We will see you next week. My friend everyone, thank you so much for listening. To make sure you follow bet MGM across all social media platforms. At bet MGM, you don't need to follow you honest, but he is at Jana's

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