From the Field to the Ring with Le’Veon Bell

about that. We'll talk about him playing with the Steelers and what he meant by saying he wished he had a time machine to go back to eighteen. Okay, so last week my new co host was welcomed with rave reviews. Y'all love him. I love him. We had a lot of fun kicking things off. Jerry Ferrara, how are you doing, my friend. I'm just glad you guys had me back. I wasn't so sure. You never know. After you record a pod, you're like, I think I think we I think we did well. You know, I think it was good.

So no, now I feel like every week two that goes by, we're getting closer to the football. And then obviously we got the hoops countdown, so I'm locked in, ready to go. Well, even if you totally stunk, I think your contract would still keep you around for a year. So good thing you did. Yeah, exactly, good good thing right? Yeah, yeah, we don't do ten days around here year contract. No, We're with each other all football season, all year. This

is gonna be so much fun. One of the things I promised you last week because we kicked things off, is that I would start Entourage from the very beginning. Obviously, you played Turtle. That still is what a lot of people call you. What you know, When I tell people you're the co host, they say, oh, I loved her Turtle. I love Entourage. But I made it through four episodes and I'm really really loving this show. I'm laughing out loud. So yeah, and don't I'm twenty three years old. I'm

probably a lot closer to two pounds back then. Yeah, walk me through your weight loss journey, because it doesn't even look like you. That was just, you know, I just I was always like a kind of chubby kid. But and also that's how they wanted me on the show, Turtle and definitely fit, you know, to be a little schlubby, a little a little overweight, and then you know, you end up working so much craft service is really good.

I started enjoying dinner and stuff like that. Yeah, I kind of ballooned up to like two oh five, And it wasn't until I turned like thirty years old where I'm like, you know, I gotta get this together. This is really starting to go down the path of something that's gonna be hard to correct as I get older. And I just like it was very simple. I just like started lightly working out and eating a little bit

better and just little by little over tight. Didn't lose like thirty forty pounds and two months like you hear some of those stories, but uh yeah, they were not happy when I you'll see later on like I come back like in between like year six and seven, which is only in the show, supposed to be like a month later, and I'm like sixty pounds and Doug Allen couldn't write all the kind of fat jokes that they used to hit me with in early in season one.

So yeah, that that's kind of my fitness journey. So what I'm learning about your character is, I mean, you're just you take such a brunt of all the jokes and then obviously the the dog Honold and the attack like did you did you have a stunt devil in that scene? No, that was me And I'm definitely in a lot of I'm wearing like all Rangers goalie equipment, so you see, even like the sports was pretty prevalent

in that first episode. I have a Yankee jersey on at one point a Yankee hat and in a Ranger jersey. So if you actually look at the dog attack closely, that dog was so sweet, was like licking my face and like they couldn't actually get him to violently like pull me by the crotch. So they had a really kind of edit around that because there's a sweet dog who didn't wanna, didn't even want to pretend to hurt me, so okay, okay, well and it was just like an

actor dog like how does that work? And shows Yeah, we I think we've had two over the years that played Arnold. The one that was there the longest was like Rocky, his real name was Rocky. I mean even the later episode, so there's a switch. Well I notice it's a different dog. You won't notice. But it was funny because they actually had a little puppy also as well,

that they were sort of grooming to replace Rocky. Imagine that it's kind of like some quarterback situations we've seen in the NFL, where like, hey, we're drafting this young kid. He's not gonna play. It's still your job, but eventually he will take your job and you will be sent it to retirement. So we had Rocky for a good amount of time and then Rocky stepped away from the camera and then I'm not remembering because there's only like one year that we had the new pup, but yeah,

he filled in. But yeah, the dog just like stormed off set before when you didn't want to work. Yeah, it's it's it's a it's definitely changing the dynamic of a scene when you're working with kids or animals. Eva's so then also, like the episode I just watched is when you're all going to go on a big group date because he has a date with Ari's assistant, and then everyone is trying to find dates and you get the one from the fan mail of the naked girl

who comes and is obsessed with Finns. But the whole thing about your character is like you cannot get a girl to save your life because they just they want to see Vince's room. You, I think, give a piece of his clothing to one girl you have sleepover. I mean that your character. I feels so bad for your character. Well yeah, and I do even remember, like, god, how am I gonna let this make this line work? Where I'm basically like, yeah, I should her where Vince s

eats breakfast. Then that was it, Like some of them was like, you know again, this is two thousand four different times. But you'll see. I think there there is a come upance that will you continue to watch, you know, of all those characters, I do think and maybe because I was the youngest and sort of like the little brother, I was the latest to evolve throughout the show. But when I do, I think a lot of the fans

back in the day really appreciated Turtles Journey. And now I'm in New York with my kids were back in Brooklyn. My kids are not Brooklyn kids, which makes me very upset because they probably know Ohio. But you know, the show was really popular in New York in l A. So there is a lot of people coming up like, oh my god, Turtle take a picture. And my three year old is like mesmerized, like why are all these people coming up to you? So in bed we woke up one morning he looks at Me's like, Dad, Dad,

are you a turtle? That's like you said that with the most honest, earnest like why did or you were tortoise? Why do people call you turtle? And I'm like, you know, well we'll get to that down the road. So there that'll that'll come up over the years. You know, we'll find out. You'll find out when you're probably in your teens. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I mean this show is pretty racy.

When will you let them watch it? That's the funny thing, right what let Like you know, it was a lot easier when there was no internet to be just like you're not watching this and you hide the VCR tape or the DVD. Nowadays, like he's gonna have a phone.

You want your kids to have phone for safety reasons, so you know he's gonna And I haven't really fully thought that through of what happens when the kids stumbles upon your work from twenty five years ago by the time he has a phone, So I really don't know how I'm going to handle that. They're saying in Cleveland or just in the Midwest in general, like you don't get shouted out as much as you do on the coast.

It definitely comes up. But there's just so you know, if it's just a numbers game, there's so much, so many more people out and about. Even this morning at the park, you know, there's hundreds, if not like a thousand people coming in and out. So your chances of getting spotted or a lot greater. Yeah, so yeah, he asked me a lot of people. Yeah, and you know, we were New York guys on the show, Like I said, l a and New York like the Midwest, the middle of the country. You love the show too, but the

coasts definitely early on loved loved Entourage. Okay, so I haven't told you this, and again I'm just now catching up and I'm loving it like every spare second I have as I'm giving my baby a bottle anything we are watching on the kid loves Entrage too, by the way, he's watching the TV. It's funny now because back a couple of years ago, I had an Entrage cast member slide in my d MS. Okay, well you know it's

not me right, let's just clear the air right there. Me, we have never really met until we've okay, great, oh oh boy. All right, I'm buckling up here, and I don't want to play this game because no one like you don't need out people, you don't need to like, you know, I'm not gonna say all the hey, all the people. Boy, am I tuting my horn? Like who's sliding my d M? Is not like that? But in general,

you know, I don't want to play that game. But this one is now very funny as I'm watching the show because I'm like, you know, I didn't really know who he was at the time. I had to ask my sister, Okay, I want you to take a guess who oh boy. Um. Well, here's how I'm gonna narrow this down. I'm gonna cross Kevin Dillon off the list because I don't know if Kevin Dillon knows how to slide into a d M technologically speaking, you know, that's

the one thing I've always admired about Kevin Dialon. I think he just got like an iPhone, like not that long ago. He's just not like he doesn't want to be on the phone. He wants to interact with people, so I'm crossing him off. Okay, I Connolly two was very late to social media, if I had to guess, because I think he was the earliest on social media. Maybe and I'm gonna guess Adrian, that would be my guests. I don't feel great about it, but that's my guess. No,

then I would have known who that was. I mean, yeah, and I probably would have responded to he's a good looking dude. No, I'll give you one more guess with Piven? Sure why not? Yeah? Okay, did that surprise? He was? He that kind of guy? You know, I really don't know, but you didn't know. Piven at that point was in a lot of a lot of movies long before he probably had the most, the longest resume before Entourage either him while it was close right over my head, Well,

I would see I would have lost that bed. I'm already damn already minus money on the pod. I'm oh for one, So I hope I could pick it back up on this episode. Oh yeah. I sent it to my sister and I was like, who's this guy? Because you know it was verified and who is this? And she told me, Yeah, Anyways, I had to tell you that, but no, uh, hey, he's great on the show. To my god, is he a funny character? Yeah? Three years?

Oh yeah, no, he's so good. Well yeah, so every week I'm going to tell you where I'm at in the show, and yeah, totally loving it. Okay, you promised me this week that you would find me some Houston Texans wins because last week we broke down the a f C and you thought that there would be some surprises in the Texans schedule. So that was your homework assignment, find me some Texans wins? Did you find any? What you got? So, guys, listen, I know I ran my

mouth a lot last week that the Texans. I didn't even say the Texans are gonna just win more than four and a half game. I said they're gonna upset a good team, maybe more than once during the year. They sort of did it last year. I went through the schedule. Remember this now we're still we're barely even through preseason. So this is not final answer time. This is my early early picks. I went through it. You know, Bears Week three doesn't really qualify. I really don't know

what the Bears are gonna do. And we'll talk more about the NFC eas We're gonna dive into the NFC later. They did already beat the Titans last year. I had that circle week. But here it is. I truly, truly like the Thursday night game. It's week nine. I do think the Eagles are going to be a good team. It's in Houston. I think that is going to be one of those sleepy it's Thursday night. Those are always a little weird. I think they might stumble into a loss.

That's my number one. I do have a number two, and I'm already gonna pick on the NFC East Week fourteen, the battle for Texas Exans cowboys. That sounds like a cowboy. Let me trip over my own two feet, stumble against the Texans, loot and bring the NFC East back to craziness because we're supposed to run away with it. And now we just lost the Texans in Week fourteen, So the doors open for the Commanders to sneak in at eight and eight and nine. We'll get to all this.

By the way, I'm coming in hot on the NFC East. Okay, I'm loving this. I'm loving this, and I have a lot of concerns about the Cowboys too. I can't wait to to circle back to the great state of Texas. But that's what we're gonna do. After we talk to Mr Bell, we are going to break down the NFC and I think we both have a little bit more skin in the game. That's both of our teams, the Packers and Giants, who play each other this year in

London at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. And I haven't said this on the show yet, but I'm moving to London in like a week, so I'm gonna go to that game. I'm really excited. Maybe I can do some live reporting for Unleashed there, but that game, Jerry, are we gonna be on good terms that week? It really all depends, because that's what we four or five said. Yeah, it's

October nine. Yeah, if the Giants are like one in four, if they get out of the gate like they've gotten out of the gate the last couple of years, like, yeah, I'm gonna want to win, but I might not be as obsessed. But if we get out of the gate and or even close to five hundred hanging around, that's the fun part about your team being in the NFC East. You are truly never out of it, even at since you're still sniffing around the division, so that it will

be cool. But I will say the Giants play good in London historically, they have a lot of London games under their belt. They play well in London. Well. Yeah, So as I was watching the Packers preseason, you know, there was a lot of talk Everyone's upset Jordan's Love through three picks. I think two of them were as the receiver's faults, but I don't know. It's uh. I told the story on Twitter Live the other day for

bed MGM. We did a win total preview for the whole NFL and when we got to the Packers, I mentioned I was at a wedding this summer and that I was talking with Jordan's Love for a minute and did it really eyes it was him? And then my husband came up and I was like, oh, that guy was really nice, and he said live, that was Jordan Love, that was how cub me two. So it's a great guy.

Great guys. So I'm I'm only cheering for the best for Room, but a little bit concerned about the health of Aaron Rodgers, the future of Aaron Rodgers, because we just we don't know what we're doing. You know, we're beat up on the offensive line with David Baktiari still recovering, and then our receivers. We're not sure who's gonna fill in for Davante Adams. So I certainly have question marks for the Packers. Yeah, I don't know when we do

our NFC PREVI. I don't know if you're gonna like some of the things I'm I'm gonna say about your squad, but I'm sure you're gonna absolutely destroy my squad. So I'm ready for I'm totally ready. I'm defensive. I'm a defensive minded player today. I love it. Hey, you know what I'm ready for? What's that? I'm ready for you to take over the reins any topic you want to talk about. It is time for you to unlead. Unleached friend,

It's time. Yeah, I'm nervous about this one because I know no one's gonna people are gonna this is gonna be a big eye roll for a lot of you listening. I know it. And this is gonna be on social media. I'm sure the lovely people at bet mgm A're gonna clip this put it out there. So but I want to prove to you that I'm going to speak my mind and not be afraid to take strong stances. I even discussed it at dinner last night. This is not my original idea, and some people have mentioned this before,

but this is a everyone has that one friend. You have a few drinks, you just talk sports, and the conversation goes all over the place. This is his thing that I am now fully on board with it. You ready, I'm gonna give it to you in one line and then we'll talk it out. Super Bowl Saturday. Oh super now? Really exactly? That's the face everyone kind of makes. It's like, oh, not the best idea. It's Super Bowl Sunday. Lord knows, the NFL does not need help marketing the Super Bowl

to us. Why move it if it's such a successful thing. Just think about if you actually went to the Super Bowl, right, and it's on a Saturday, and then you have that whole entire next day, or even if you have to be up at work five am on Monday, that's kind of a bummer. But if it's on Saturday, you get all day to recover. Sunday. You could even actually still have a Sunday Funday after the Super Bowl. No one really owns Saturday night like college football obviously does. They'll

be done by the Super Bowl UFC does. Hopefully you guys can get off that same weekend super Bowl Saturday. It will be great for the city that the Super bowls in because people won't you know, Sunday. We gotta get out here. I got worked. Next day, they might linger around, you know, Indianapolis for a couple of hours

more than they actually would. This is an old head take because the bottom line is, I don't want to be up till one o'clock in the morning on the East Coast watch I struggle with it on Thursday and Monday night games. The super Bowl obviously you have to watch it. Why not super Bowl Sunday? Why not? What gain is it to have it on the Sunday other than historically that's what it's always just been. What other gain is there on Sunday one game? Coming from a

TV network perspective, I'm sure there's a reason. I'm sure there's some kind of programming issue. I'm sure there's a reason it's on Sunday, and I'll look into that next week. I'll tell you if I find anything. As someone who most years of my life goes to the super Bowl. I will tell you it's great having a full weekend in the host city leading up to the game with all the hubbub, you know. It's like my dad calls the super Bowl on radio, and we always do a

big Saturday night dinner. Like my mom books it whenever the city is announced of who's hosting the super Bowl. She finds the best steak house and and books it and we bring like beads and colors and like we do it big, and Saturday before the super Bowl in the host city is popping, like if it is an indie, if it is you know, in l A last year, it was popping, like it's it's just what you do. It's just a part of it. And you know what, Jerry, why ruin a good thing? I think, see a good thing.

I'm gonna push back a little bit here. I hear what you're saying. I totally get it. The night before, there's all the hype, there's all the excitement. You slide that to Friday. I think you have the same effect. Now it's a lot easier. I feel like for people to either leave like you're gonna be there. Probably if you're either covering it, working it, or just going. You're probably gonna get there like Wednesday or Thursday, right, So it really doesn't shorten your stay, if anything, it just

extends it. Now, those parties on Saturday night, why not have post game parties? Why can't it be the next day and you actually get to talk about the game with your friends that you just watch at a pool somewhere or what I mean, if it's in a warm city or at a casino or whatever, at some other party. Why can't you have the day after party? Why not? I will tell you the super Bowl crowd is so corporate,

like disappointing lee corporate. In fact, every super Bowl I've been to is a quieter NFL game than a home game anywhere else, a Week four home game anywhere else. And maybe that's just people have to be at work at eight am on Monday morning, and they're kind of like, well, how much do we really want to get wild here? It's Sunday night. If it was on Saturday, maybe people would let their hair down a little more, knowing, hey,

we can recover Sunday flights not till four pm. Will be in bed at eight o'clock Sunday night, wake up fresh as a daisy for work on Monday. This is a horrible take. It's an old head take. I get it, but I believe this in my heart. And the minute Vince Carter retired, making it so that I was older than every single NBA player active, I became an old head. That was the minute. That's the only time I ever felt like I'm really getting old in my life. And I said that to Vince Carter and he was actually

mad because he's like, I'm not old. He's like, you might be old. I'm you know. He was still dunking in the layup line when I said, the minute you retire, I'm older than every NBA player playing. So I'm an old head. Okay. I have a similar story to that. So my husband Sam was playing in the NBA against Vince Carter, who he just idolized growing up, and they were warming up and he went over and said to him, he said, hey, VC, you know, big fan, Just so you know, I was born the year you were drafted.

You know, like, yeah, well, I'm telling you. If you're driving listening to this, or if you're on the treadmill or whatever you're doing, your first reaction I deserve. Now take a second and really think about it and then come back to me. I'm gonna sleep on it. Sleep on it. I'm gonna sleep on it. Take a second, I'll bring up I'm sure there's a reason. Again, I'm going to get to the bottom of it why it's

played on a Sunday. Okay, my time to unleashed. And this one feels a little personal as someone who has interviewed a lot of athletes what I do for a living, and I will tell you it's really really Hard's always a lot of build up to a sit down interview, especially in training camp like you see happening right now. You know, in those foldy chairs and certain networks are

allowed some access. Okay, So this one went down in Washington with former Eagles quarterback current commander quarterback Carson Wentz get a sit down with Scott Abraham of seven News d C and it got, I mean, painfully awkward. One of the questions was real talk here, Carson. It's been well documented. Philly didn't want you, Indie didn't want you.

Do you think this is your last chance to prove that you could be a starting quarterback in the NFL okay brutal, and he did preface it with real talk here, but that doesn't make it better. You know. Here's my beef with it is that people were all over this guy. People were piste. People thought that was really rude. And you can massage things, you can make things sound a little bit nicer than they are while still getting your

point across and asking the tough questions. But my guy here got probably ten minutes with Carson ten fifteen minutes, you know, and he's there to bring back his producer great sound bites and that's what his job is. And I don't want to play it because I think we did last season. But I I had a bad interview on the field with Nick Saban at halftime, and halftime interviews are a whole different animal because it's so tight, and you know, no coach or player once a talk

at halftime. But Alabama is up like seven to three on Chattanooga. And he finished my first question with an answer of saying, you know, we just have to know what kind of game we're in, and he was pissed, and I'd simply asked, as a follow up, what kind

of game are you in? You know, they're playing this lower tier school anyways, and he snaps at me, but it was an incredible sound bite, and I if I have to be the whipping boy a little bit, I don't mind, you know, It's I'm the one they're holding the microphone, and that's what you're there for is to get this great answer. So that's what I want to un leash on. Is my man here could have asked

it a little bit nice. It certainly was awkward watching because Carson Wentz looks like confused and I'm not happy with the question, as you shouldn't be. And these athletes, they just have to hear the worst things about themselves all the time, and that's got to get so old. You're in show biz, you get it. It's like the world out there so tough. When you're sitting down face to face with someone who you have given your time to for an interview and they offend you like that,

I mean, what do you think? Do you think that this interviewer was so out of line? I just think of it in a few different ways. It's one like, if that's the way you want to do your interviews, that's your choice. Good luck getting a lot more interview and maybe you will who knows, maybe players like, yeah, sure all talk to that guy. I doubt it if that's kind of going to be the mode of questioning. And also, like, what do you expect Carson Wentz to say,

They're like, yeah, I know nobody wanted me. You're right, like, and I it's up to me to work hard and make them want me. Like he could have said that, is that a great sound bite? Not really like you don't really You're not gonna get to a different place than you're gonna get to either. Right now he just has to say, oh, I didn't really ever think of it like that, but yeah, I know I have to work hard and just do my job. Like you're still

gonna get the same kind of answer. So I don't know if he was trying to like get some other kind of reaction. Carson Wents from everything I've seen, is a pretty reserved I don't say reserved, but you know, always has his cool and interviews and stuff like that. So I just don't get it. I don't unless you just said that day like I'm just gonna ask the hard questions brutally honest and then till you have to say real talk. Does that mean everything else you were

saying was not real talk? But now I'm gonna do real talk. This really matters. This is the real like real talk. Uh, that's kind of the preface of like I'm gonna be a little bit of a dick right now, real talk. Yeah, and that's what he was. Yeah, he was like trying to be boys with Carson. Anyways, So real talk, Jerry, Let's go ahead and bring in our guests. Let's bring in Levy on Bell cannot wait for during his NFL career, he's one of the most dynamic running

backs in the league. Former NFL All Pro play with the Steelers, Jets, Chiefs, Ravens, and Bucks, and now he's traded in the helmet maybe for some boxing glows for his debut against Adrian Peterson. Levi on Bell, thank you for being here, Very excited to talk to you. Thanks for having me, Thanks for having me. So, I don't know if you get this feeling right. It's almost always always get this feeling, like the back to school feeling

when fall would kick in. So now we're in like NFL preseason and camp, Like, where does your mind go when you see camp starting up? You like, I'm kind of happy I don't have to go through camp where you get those feelings again of like oh yeah, I remember camp. Yah um yeah. I mean obviously kind of bitter sweet. It's like little mix of both. I'm going through a camp still, I'm just like a different camp

that I'm used to. You know, I'm absolutely doing boxing camp because I'm preparing for a fight, you know, So it's just obviously a little different preparing in the ring obviously on the field. But uh, you know, I watched a little highlights and stuff like that do make me miss football a little bit. But I've just been so locked in on boxing, you know. So you know that's where my focus has been. What did you used to do to kind of pass the time in camp? Like,

I know you're a gamer, I'm a gamer. Two right. I would have definitely taken my place stay. I would have had my whole gaming set up if I had to go to like actual training camp. That was my thing. That was my thing. Crazy said that I call it duty. Smash Brothers does my games? How far do you go back with Call of Dude? You go back? I go back to like Modern Warfare one with the Gold Cross and Prestige Mode and all that. Yeah, I felt like I was playing called Duty before. Like it was low

key called Call of Duty. It was called like like goes Recon or something like. You know what I'm saying, Like, I think Duty way way as long as I can remember playing, even the PlayStation like the regular Like you know what I'm saying, Like, I've been playing Call of Duty for a minute. Okay, if you're such a big gamer obviously right now the Madden ratings are out, did you ever get really upset with your Madden rating? Why do you guys get so upset with her Madden rate? Yeah?

I mean because when you play a game, when you play a game grown up as a kid, the whole time, you kind of you know the good players and how you want your speed to be or whatever it is. So when they put you on the game and you feel like you're a certain speed or a certain strength or something, then give you what you feel like you is. It's like, oh dang, Like you know what I'm saying, you kind of take your personal you know, like I

feel like uh. And there was a couple of years, like talking fifteen to six d seventeen, I had like a high rating like ninety six or whatever it was, and I was happy with that, you know what I'm saying. I remember I was upset the only year I was trying to upset. It was like my rookie year. But I was a rookie. So it's like and believe it. That's it. Yeah, they're always hard on rookies and mad and they're always hard with the rookie ratings, right right right.

I was so upset with my rookie ready at first, Like I think I was like a seventy one or or like seventy two or something. Yeah, I was low. I was low. Then year two had that breakout year. Then next man, I was like a nineties six or something like. That's literally what happened. Yeah, So you mentioned you know you're training for boxing, Like I obviously love boxing, and it's boxing something you did kind of growing up.

I'm obsessed with like athletes who obviously like I came up with, like Bo Jackson, Dion Sanders, like guys playing multiple sports. I don't think we ever see that on a professional level game because you got to focus your energy on like one sports really hard. But what is your kind of boxing background you come up boxing or is this something that you're just kind of getting into now? Yeah, I mean I always my uncle's like always watched it, so I kind of like always watched it, always been

a fan of it. I started incorporating boxing as a football workout, so, like, you know, I started doing like my football training and on my own field stuff. And then like in two thousand and sixteen ish, I think I started doing some boxing just to help with like cardio, you know, just extra conditioning. And then over a while, as I kept doing it, I just started kind of liking it, you know. I started liking it more and more, start falling in love with it, you know what I'm saying,

start getting a little more serious about it. It's crazy now I look up and it's like I'm like, this is what I'm doing, you know what I'm saying. But I think it kind of started in sixteen when I started for a football workout. That's kind of like when it started from me. Now we're talking about this fight coming up with Adrian Peterson. Now, my first question is what did a p ever do to you? Don't your running backs kind of stick together? Like what's going on? Yeah?

Maybe never did anything to me. You know, I like, I feel like this is like a decision I had made. Like I mean even last year, Like last year, I kind of was torn before I signed with Tampa to kind of like this focus all in on boxing. But I had to the opportunity to go play with terriffic Tom. So I'm like, all right, I'm a gonna go play with Tom Brady. I'm gonna go out, you know, within a ring, you know what I'm saying. It didn't turn out the way I wanted to, but you know, I

took the opportunity of that chance. But like this year, I feel like I just gotta like hone in on boxing, you know what I'm saying. And I've been trying to find opponents, Like you know, earlier in the year, I was trying to find opponents because already knew I could get the ring. I was just trying to find somebody who made sense for me it would be a good

first fight. And I've seen somebody with a background like who does on boxing, who's a good athlete or something like that, because I didn't want my first fight and that'ssi'd be like a boxer in a sense. So I think once I already was signed up for the event, and now I knew I was doing an event finding an opponent with my next thing, and I think, you know, a piece people wanted to do the event. They reached out the apiece people AP wanted to do it, you

know what I'm saying. So, and I think, like, you know, it was a couple opponents on the table, but I think AP made the most sense just because of the fact that, like, you know, he's the NFL running back. You know, he hasn't had any fights either, so we both brought the same size. So it's it's like, why not, you know what I'm saying. I thought, I thought that it kind of makes sense. He wanted to do it. I want to do it. So it's like, oh, it's gonna be fun. No, I know it got postponed, but

what's the latest. Now have you guys set a date? Yeah, so it just got nice yesterday to fight day, September ten, a fight timp So I got about three and a half weeks. You know, it gets or prep you know what I'm saying. It's been bitter sweet that I got postponed. Like it's like thing, I like, it's hard to kind of like get hyped for the fight the whole time, then like two weeks before the fight to like you can't do it. So then it's like I'm back to

the training, back to training. But it's kind of good that I just get to keep training and keep getting better, you know, making sure I'm prepared when I get the ring. Yeah, you know, some days, the first NFL Sunday of the year, it's so our first NFL headlines though, could be a Levian Bell victory, right, I don't know if you can knock out of it. Look, I have respect for anyone who ever even attempts boxing. Like, where do you find

the difference? So, you know, because obviously you've played a team sport on the highest level boxing, I mean there's a team because you have trainers and you have a team of people. But once you're in there, you know, it really is one on one. Yeah, do you feel that? Yeah? I think that's kind of like, I mean, it's one

of the biggest difference. I ain't gonna say the biggest, but it's one of the biggest differences because like in football, if there's a lot of times where you necessarily don't have to being your best shape or like you want to be healthy, like you know, because it's like a team, so like you don't or even to be good, you know, saying even to be good, you got to depend on so many other people, like you got depend on the line of block, where you got to depend on the

quarterback to throw you the bar, the coach of all to play for you, versus like boxing is kind of like your teamwork is kind of like ah, before you get in the ring, it's like before the game technically like before the match, because like once the match starts,

it's like all right, now it's just you. In football, once you do all your your team work during the week, you're doing the practice, you're doing in meetings, you're doing in the game, versus boxing, it's like you do all your team working, then once you're in the match, it's like you're just literally alone by yourself and everything that's been taught, all your training and where your body is whatever, it just prepped for that match and you buy yourself

you know what I'm saying. And I think that was the biggest difference for me and understanding that, which is good for me because I always kind of feel like I was one of the most skilled and most conditioned athletes. You know in football, you know what I'm saying. Don't get me wrong. It was a team sport and I got a lot of help doing what I was able to do. But at the same time, I was like still like I worked hard and I was able to

be you know, handled the ball. How many times they wanted to give me the ball, or being shape or stronger fast as they needed me to be, and or whatever position they need me to play because I was a skilled So I feel like it helps translating boxing and this is gonna be like the sport I can show, like a lot of people that I'm by myself and how far I can take you by myself. So do you see are there already? I don't want to look past a p We should never look past Adrian Peterson, right,

just like I wouldn't look past you. But you come out with the victor. Do you already have other guys in your mind that you like? Do you kind of have the route where like I want to, I'd love to go out this guy, this guy. Are you just going one at a time, which is a very smart thing in boxing? Yeah, I mean there's obviously, Uh, with certain guys like Ka Saw and Jake Paul, Like those those two guys are definitely guys that's like on my

my hit list. But in a sense right now, yeah, it's my focus all been on ap you know what I'm saying. I think, Uh, like I said, it's gonna be a good first opponent from me, you know what I'm saying, because you know he's not experienced. I'm my experience. He's an athlete. You know, he's been the highest little athlete in the NFL. So if by you know what

I'm saying, So now it's gonna be about skills. You know what I'm saying because we both translate, you know what I'm saying, Like boxing wise, like it wasn't our sport at first. You know, there's no tape. There's no tape on no tape what I'm saying. So it's like it's literally like you know what I'm saying that people kind of like picking a fight over how we run the ball, Like what's just interesting me? You know what I'm saying, Like people like like eight people, you know

he's so powerful and slows and he's gonna come forward. Boy, I feel like you're like patient and you're like, you know, manipulated, you know what I'm saying. Something it's like that's kind of like my style of boxing, which is crazy, and you know, and e P posted the clip and it was like he was like one of those styles that he likes, powerful when they splosive, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, I don't know, it's gonna be so fun, It's gonna be so fun to watch. Um, I just

planned on putting on the show. You know what I'm saying. I'm just showing people how much how skilled I am in boxing, how how hard and how seriously it's how to take it. Yeah, now you mentioned Jake Paul. Didn't you originally call out Jake Paul? Did he duck you? What happened there? Yeah? Yeah, I'm done calling I feel like I feel like I've been calling him out so many times at this point, I feel like I'm a bully.

I feel like I'm you know what I'm saying, And I don't want to be a bully, you know what I'm saying. It's like, if you don't want to if you don't want to fight me, it's like, all right, whatever bro, Like I just thought he was one of those guys who wanted who really wanted to like the challenge and like really fight people. What I thought, that's what he's about to do with Uh, I've seen Ramen, but that ain't up. Whatever happened, I don't even know whatever.

But yeah, so it's like if you want to real fight, if you want to like somebody with some skill whatever, which maybe he don't even know because there's nobody's seen me yet. So right now I'm just all talk Like right now, people it's kind of look at me like just talking or whatever. But it's like once September Tim come. I wish it would happen in the thirty if I already, because then everything it makes it. But once September Tim come, people will see and then I feel like the people

will be asking for that fight. And at that point it's gonna be on him, like because I'll be ready. I'll be ready to do the fight whenever you want to do it, so it would be up to him at that point. I got another idea for you, and then someone else who's been on our show, and you gotta you gotta do this for the whole NFL you gotta carry the NFL on your back. Because Darren Williams beat Frank Gore in his first ever fight. We had Darren on the show. He was feeling pretty confident. I

think he said he's one and done. He doesn't want to do it again, but the NFL needs a win. Here. Would you would you fight Darren? If you would do it, we could make a call. Yeah, fight Darren. I got my money on you. He did be Frank like, so it was like, yeah that that fight almost kind of happened if I almost happened. It was it was it was so close, like but yeah, it was like a p But Darren will find almost happened and that fight

probably still could happen. You know what I'm saying. I don't want to fight people with losses like like they got wins. I'll fight him like, I just want to fight people with wins. I don't fight one people no losses, like straight up, I want to take people. I want to I want to be the one to put the l in a column like I want to be the guy to do that. Man, I'm not gonna lie. You know you're getting me hyped for this fight. Like I

love fights. And stuff, and I watch them all, but like you, I mean, now, I just I gotta see it. I gotta see it. You're right, there's no tape, no workout video like a few here and there, but there's no like real sparring set. You got me, So you really just sold me big time. I've seen a p post the clip. It's like, man, I don't want to post it because you see people posting boxing stuff all

the time. It's like in football. There's another difference to in football, when I'm training, it's like I post, I send, I post all my clips like I just send everything out like boom when everybody. I want everybody know what I'm doing. But in boxing it's more like you nobody

seeing me. So I don't want nobody know how I look, don't do don't do it before like whatever, I don't want nobody even see how I look like because it's like y'all gonna see the timp and then when the timp come once the cats off the bag, it's like out the bag. But yeah, I want to surprise people on the timp, like, yeah, you know you did post

something a few weeks ago. I thought, you know, it was a real honest post on your I g talking about like this next chapter in your life, and you know, you said out things you wish things were played out differently if you had a time machine and all that, And I always think about stuff like that, like what if I could go back? What? More so, like what do I wish I could have done differently? You know what exactly just explained a little bit. You know what

what would you like to have been exactly different? Or you know, how would you have done something differently if you could? You know, I know you went into it,

but I thought that was a very interesting post. Yeah, I feel like just inen it was just like so much going on, not even just with football, because like that that post was like a lot of people kind of took it from me sitting out of the franchise tag gear, which that was obviously like that's what everybody knows about me, so everybody's thinking it's about that, which a little bit it was about that, Like well, I mean a lot of that year was about that, but

it was just so much going on off the field too, and that I made maybe I want to say the wrong decision because it's like there's decisions that I made that made me who I am the day, and I'm glad that I made those the cities Scott learned from him.

You know what I'm saying. It's like there's like things that if I never did it, then I would never learn from And I think that kind of made me no a better father, better person, a better man, a better athlete, you know what I'm saying, Just a sense like so, I mean, there's not anything specifically that I can really because that's why that post could have been forever. I was gonna make that post for but it's just so hard to talk about everything that went on in

that year. But obviously people majority talking about the franchise that year, and I'm not seniors saying I would change if I had the time to see I would go back and play. Like I just think there's different ways how to win about it, because you know, obviously, at the end of the day, everybody just wanted to see me play football, you know what I'm saying, Like everybody

just want to see me play. I was in a sense like I don't get me wrong, I wanted to play football, but my mind said like I had something else, like I was on a different mission, like that's something else set out to prove, you know what I'm saying, And I feel like, yeah, like certain things was getting in the way of that, you know what I'm saying. So it turned out the way it turned out, you know what I'm saying. Like, obviously everything happens for a reason.

So I think I'm here today because you know, whatever happeneden or fourteen or whatever it was, you know, all these decisions made maybe the first on I I m of the day, and I don't I would I couldn't go back and change anything. I wouldn't go back and change anything because I'm proud of who I am today. Yeah, I mean it sounds like you have no regrets, which

is great. But if you did have a regret, would it be that you couldn't watch yourself play, you know, kind of like watching the Beatles or Jesus performing crazy funny. I love a b broy be funny. But that's the thing about Ab gets such a bad rap. He gets such a bad rap and likes but he like one of my closest friends, Like he's so funny because he just like he just knows, like I don't know, he knows how to like just get the people to gravitate to him in a sense like because he's funny. He

just like so funny. And I don't even think he's like tries to be funny, Like I don't think he I don't think he's like trying to be a joke guy. You know what I'm saying. But he likes saying how you feel and just like some people like man, I can't believe he said that, but it's like, you know what I'm saying. It's like some people would just thinking.

Some people would just think it, and you know what I'm saying, keeping to himself, he like one of the people who would think it about I'll just say it too, but I'll actually say it. That's like the difference is you know what I'm saying. So it was like you know some people right man, like his pilter is not you know what I'm saying. His pilter that like everybody else filter. But I love aping death. They don't get me wrong. Would you ever fight him? I mean I

think that fight would sell out. Maybe would be though, maybe you would fight. Yeah, yeah, of course, like I spared, I spark my friends all the time. I can fight. People will still be friends with him like that, no problem, You have no problems because to me is a sport. It's just why I'm not mad at you when i'm fighting you, like when I'm going there want to ring and fight a p I'm not mad at you. I'm just gonna have to handle my visiness. I'm not gotten to do it like I do. But I'm not mad

at even just you know what I'm saying. It is

what it is. Yeah, this killless is getting along. Yeah, I'm saying another name and your friends no, like no, they don't post no video right camera out and post it could be like yeah, it's been like a little like a couple of like little small like small three more second clips on people's close friends or something like bro all right and you post that just posted in close friends and don't post uping the It's like maybe like that, like I'll be trying to keep it up.

I don't want nobody see nothing. I'm saying, have you gotten like father loft along where like you know, like entrance music and stuff like that, or you haven't gotten to that point yet, not yet. I was actually it's crazy you said that we're talking about a b because I was actually thinking about as walking me out. Oh yeah you are. You are a boxer man, you're a showman. That's a show right, You're you're ready? Yes, absolutely, I was like I was thinking about that. Twitter will light

up with that. We'll light up with that. I was talking to me about that. So it's like we're saying all that. It's crazy you've been bring that up. Yeah, like you already know, you already know. I'm a fight fan. So like for me, the fight begins the minute they show like the fighters walking at like the fight is begun in my mind. Like you're walking out, you're saying something when you're walking out. So like I always like, I'm all about the intros. I just I'm locked in

from the moment you stepped out. I want to know what music. I want to know you're walking out, but I want to see your face, like I love all that stuff. I gotta think of good, I gotta think of like the fool Like, well, I want to come out and I know what colors. I don't want to say. I don't want to spoil it, but like I don't know, is that what I want to wear? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, take your time with that. Take your time. You know what I'm saying, Jerry, what colors do you expect?

Let's let's brain from a little. I mean, I have some ideas what you might wear, but I don't know. I love you, know, I don't think you're gonna I don't spoil nothing. I think you're gonna surprisin whatever we all think you may do. I think you are gonna surprise, like I think you're maybe gonna not do what everyone might think. You know. So, man, you sold the hell out of this. I cannot wait for this. I'm telling you, I'm so fired up. I wish it was tonight. I

can't wait. I'm telling you, bro Like, and then after the first, after this first one, then people don't really want to watch me fight because they're gonna see me like, because they don't know. They ain't just me talking about it. It's like I'm just talking about it. But I'm not one of those guys who are just talking. It's not like not backing it up, Like I'm going back up everything I'm saying. I'm not gonna just get on here,

just say something. I don't believe. I'm not getting that ring, not believing this like, look, you know what exactly what I'm getting into. And I feel like if like I'm just one of those guys in the ring, I feel like I'm just I'm to the level where it's like, yeah, I'm just ready to show. I can't explain. I can't explain it. I gotta I gotta show it. I gotta show it. That's all it is. Cannot cannot wait. Oh yeah, hey,

back to football for a minute. You've gotten a chance to play with some of the best quarterbacks of this era. Tom Brady mentioned earlier, Patrick Mahomes, Lamartin Jackson, Big Ben, kind of big picture. How were they similar? Like what makes those names so elite? Similar? Man, it's crazy because

there's they're also different. But it's like, okay, then tell me that I mean, but like I mean similarities Obviously they all kind of like got leadership qualities about them, but they all lead in a different way, you know what I'm saying. Like because Ben wasn't really a raw row guy, Like he talked to the team, but he wasn't like a guy who like who gives like a lot of hype speeches. He would every now and then, though he would step in every now and then Patrick

Mahome is more like a hot raw rock guy. He more like the hype guy, like he gets how to get the team hyped. Lamar quiet, Lamar do sholn't really say anything? Like Lamar is kind of you know what I'm saying, Like everybody else get hyped, you know. Lamarg is kind of in his zone zone and who else? And then on Tom, Tom is more. Tom is a raw rot. Tom gonna get you hyped, like Tom and guy who being the huddle and Tom is like more he were like obsessed, Like Tom is like obsessed with football.

That's why he's got six rings, like or seven. That's why yeah, seven right, seven. We can't even keep counting him. That's how we don't even know how many rings he actually has if I had seven rings, because he's obsessed with football. That's one thing I would say about Tom. The moment I got the Tampa, he kind of struck me different than all the other quarterbacks that I played with,

just because like how like obsessed with it. Like even when we're out of the meeting, so we leave meetings and we're free like as a players, like okay, we got free time, like we might have you know, an hour here or whatever whatever. Tom is hosting his own meetings. Like Tom got the lineman, He has his lineman separate, you know, he had meet with the lineman. He then the lineman and the running backs to meet. We have.

This is the only running back or the only quarterback I've ever played with who sat in like team run meetings, so like we're running the ball, We're only talking about run plays. That's it. Tom is sitting in the meeting, running the meeting. You know what I'm saying, for the lays, you know what I'm saying, because he would make sure everybody knows who everybody blocking on run plays, you know what I'm saying. That's how different he was. He was

like obsessed with it. You know what I'm saying. I never heard that, you know I'm saying, versus like quarterbacks and kind just do their job, Like all right, they being the quarterback meetings and you know, seven on sevens and be with the wide outs and the tight ends and stuff. That's fine. Tom does all that, but he does that extra too, like the extra like all right, we're on the field, and the time the offense is

not on the field is supposed to be arrest. We're walking through like but pick up or you know what I'm saying, walk through routes or whatever it may be. You know what I'm saying, He like is obsessed with it and that's what made him. That's that's why that that little taste. I got a time like that half a year and I got to play when he made understand like, oh yeah, you've got to be obsessed with what you're doing. That's why he's so great at you

know what I'm saying, That's why you to go. Hey, you mentioned Lamar Jackson too, and that he's so serious. What's your take on him fighting for this contract right now? If you were him, would you not play until pen meat's paper? Yeah, I feel like because he's gonna get paid. You know what's crazy. I don't know exactly. I'm not really all caught up with the I just know he hasn't got paid, so I know, like Colin he got paid.

I don't know all the numbers and stuff like I don't even know, like you know saying whatever all that, but like Lamar definitely won. He whatever he's asking for, I don't know, he deserves, you know what I'm saying, and this would be the problem because it's like why is some much backlash or why is he why is he not getting what he deserves? Yeah, because for the raves, think about the raves. Did you think about the raves?

You're definitely thinking about Lamar. So it's like first and foremost the TS fight back is always or what if you get injured or we gotta pretend because you're running on But it's like yeah, like but that's what makes me Lamar. You know what I'm saying, Like, that's what that ar. Yeah, absolutely, you know what I'm saying, Like lamartin outside of last year, before last year, eating at injured like he he like runs, he don't get hurt, you know, Like I think he has an eight last

year or something. But like you know what I'm saying, it's football, you injuries don't happen. You can be Tom Tom Brady got hurt. You know what I'm saying. He don't run the ball for real. Like so it just I don't know. They tyed to find like little like reasons not to pay you. And I feel like with la Bar, I kind of knew this was gonna happen in a sense because he's so different, Like he's basically I mean he's not a running back. He's not a

running back. I'm not gonna say that, but he's like a skill wise, he could run as good as running back, right, Yeah he could be if he wanted to be. He could have been, you know what, man like he could like skill wise like yeah, I can run the ball and running back, you know what I'm saying. But he plays quarterback. He plays the position quarterback, you know what I'm saying. It so like I don't know, I just do.

It can be a problem with this, but me, if I'm the the guy handing out the money for the Ravens and I'm paying Lamar Jackson what he wants because he deserves that. Yeah, just should be don't fight Kyler Murray and don't fight. Yes, it should be don't fight. Yes, Patrick Mahomes wasn't on fight and like those guys, like those guys that you know, like these are the guys like you shouldn't be don't fight about it. Mhm No, you're right, right? Is he disadvantaged representing himselves? What's your

take on players not having agents? I didn't know you don't have an agent. I didn't know that. I didn't know that he doesn't his mom does some negotiating for him. Oh yeah, I mean I don't think it's a disadvantaged no. Like Okay, I guess lawyers made no like a little like I don't know, fine line details and like the way to talk. But at the end of the day, lamar no like numbers like what do you want per year? And like how much guaranteed money and like you know,

like the simple like like all right of it. You know what I'm saying that you can always hire somebody on the side to like look over like whatever little fine that you don't get. Yeah, but like him, Like I think Richard Sharton made that like popular. What I'm saying, Shermon was like one of the guys who made that. Probably I like that. I like guys kind of representing herself, you know what I'm saying, Like I like that money you can negotiate your own contract. Why not? I wish

I would have did that, just have a lawyer. But just think I'm just saying like if I would have did that, though, hey, I I don't know what I woul it did I can tell you one thing. Yeah, my my mom thinks I'm worth all the money in the world. So if he's got his mom, do you know he's not gonna understand. You know, she's not gonna undersell her son. There's doing better, you know. Now My eight did everything I was telling him to do. So

it's like I wasn't like talking to him. I feel like if I was talking to him the way I would assist stuff and it came off different, right, I Like, I'm in a sense like thing, if I would have representing myself, maybe maybe things have turned out different or maybe if I'm even hearing the conversation, But it's like none of that was happening. So it is what it is at this time. Do you mean by that maybe taking the Steelers offer instead of going to the Jets.

I mean like no, I wasn't saying that. I was just saying like yeah, or like yeah maybe out yeah, or maybe they wouldn't offer be something different, you know what I'm saying. It may be easier to said. You know what I'm saying, like I just wentn't hear in the conversations for real, So like I wasn't really I just was saying, Oh, this is what I want. They

come back or whatever, you know what I'm saying. But it was like I was just hearing the conversation, like on the outside, I wasn't really a part of the you know what I'm saying the conversation. If I didn't have the agent that I like, Lamar, I feel like, yeah, like he doing the stuff like talking itself, basically telling him on itself, like direct you know what I'm saying. When you hear you directly, I feel like it's different, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know

you're right. I could never do anything for myself like that. I'm way too emotional to be I'm just too emotional. I would I would tip my hand right away back you said what that's no, I would be way too emotional to speak on my own behalf. I just know myself then trying to have you like that, that's letterly what it happens. Like that's why they ain't want me on the call because they know I would be upset or maybe that takes Yeah, yeah, that's why that's what

it was. So you right now, that save me for myself. Yeah, well before we let you go, last thing for me. You're training tomorrow. What's a day, like are you road work in the morning or you're training every day? Yeah, I trained every day usually tomorrow condition today, So I like, I'll I'll probably do like a hike or something like a couple a mile, like four or five miles, and

I hit the gym. Then I'll probably go like the pilates, because I'll do like either I'll try to speaks like pilates or like a hot yal stretch because that's like, I don't know, bosting so much different in football in a sense, like I feel like every part of my body gotta be free, like you gotta be loose, like if I was like kind of tense, you can be tense because it's like more like you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, it's more like you're bracing up, you know what what I'm saying. Boxing,

you gotta be a little more free. So I've been doing so much stretching in yoga. If Loties is like bro, but I feel good, I would like I wish I would do about this like what I was playing football because it would help me in football. But yeah, I feel yeah, I feel good. So yeah, tomorrow that's probably how my day would be like in the morning. It usually in the morning before you get too hot. I'll probably get get up at like six seven am, go hike, do like four or five miles. They hit the gym

right after. Then after the gym, I go to pilates. After pilates, either I got my second work out in the gym or I'll do like my yoga stretch or whatever. Maybe like my second little partner may do. But like my day is kind of like intertwined and they all kind of switch. But that's my tomorrow looked like alright, true, last thing for me and I'm done. I'm gonna shut up. You good. You're good because you mentioned like West Coast.

I think you're on the West like I'm always obsessed with when you know a lot of US fans watching football, it's like, oh, you're the Steelers going to the West Coast? Time different? Does any of that matter with you guys, Like, oh we're on the Red Eye, We're going now to the West Coast of playing the four class That really ever factoring for you the players, we all think it does, or we're just making something out of nothing, or West Coast going east, That's what I'm saying. So there's a

team sports. So like for me, it didn't bother me. It did not bother me, but it would be a certain teammates shopping, they're like, bro, they I hate like you know what I'm saying, Like they couldn't like like if we go went from like Pittsburgh to like Vegas or something like, they would hate that. Like all dang, bro, I'm gonna be up all night bro because or I'm gonna get up too early. I'm gonna wake up too early.

Like you know what I'm saying. Because like the time difference or whatever it is, and I'm saying something, it didn't bother me, you know what I'm saying. Because so if we play that if I want, if a one pm game would be like in Cleveland or something, right, if we play in the Vegas we're just playing in like eleven, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So like it wouldn't necessarily bother me as much what it is what it is, but the time would be different over

there and the times say twelve or whatever. But my body it felt like it's tent and it wouldn't bother the god, but some people and some people waited it so it's like, I don't know, but me personally didn't bother me. Levian, I was gonna say, boy, you came a long way from East Lansing. Now you're a yuppy Los Angeles. You're doing pilates and hiking Runyon Canyon with a bunch of girls and crop tops and what you bawls out there too, say the Spartans. You're vegan. It's

like the thirty year old leaf. I saw it in the two year old league. Man, you know I supposed to tell you. Listen, no one who's done yoga and pilates has ever been like I don't really doesn't do not every everyone who's tried it always sticks with the people who don't ever try like I don't do that stuff. People I know who have like done it, I've done it, like you're never like, oh that doesn't help. It always help. That helps a lot. So no, good for you, man,

Good for you. And let me say I'm forty two. You all that stuff is good as you get older. That's the stuff that's gonna really keep you, you know, feeling good man. Good for you. Appreciate that. Well, listen, man, you you got me high. I'm not gonna. I seriously like, I am now on the countdown for you get like the perfect thing to do the night before football on Sunday, Like, I just can't wait. You sold me man, I'm in. I'm not. I am in on this fight. I can't wait.

I'm excited for you. Definitely make sure you tune in because I'm gonna definitely show. That's that's what I'm that's my mission. I'm putting on the show for people who want to see me get knocked out. I'm putting on the show for people who are supporting me and obviously know how hard I worked. I want to putting herself up too. I think our whole audience will be supporting you now too as well as us. Lavy, and thanks so much for joining us. Thank you. I really appreciate

your v Thank you. Okay, well that was a ton of fun with Lavy. I think so much for joining us. And now, as promised, we're going to go through the NFC because last week we did the a f C. If you missed it, go back listen. There's some hot takes in there, a lot of hot takes, but now it's all NFC, which, as I mentioned earlier, means a little bit more because both Jerry and I have our teams in this division and they even play each other in October in London, So it's gonna have a lot

of fun for us leading up to that one. Okay, Jerry, NFC East want to start there? Why not start there? I don't know if you watch the show Stranger Things, I know you're watching Entourage. If you don't, it's fine. I'm sure a lot of the listeners do. The NFC East is the upside Down, and if you watch the show, you will know what that means. It's another dimension where it looks the same, but everything's crazy. There's demo gorgans of bats and like, you never know what's going to

happen in the upside Down. That is what the NFC East is. It is so much fun. Your team is truly never out of it. Do you want to dive in with the Cowboys? I know you you said earlier you might not be as confident in the Cowboys this year ten and a half wins. What are you feeling on the Dallas Cowboys? Well, yeah, and they're the favorite to win the division at plus one forty Here Giants, by the way, all the way back there at plus seven fifty. Just wanted to make you nice. Look, Cowboys

had a rough off season. I think you know, trading away Amari Cooper leaves some question marks at the wide receiver position, and I just don't know if that preseason game gave us anything to feel good about. Seventeen penalties for a hundred twenty nine yards, and last year they led the NFL and penalties, so people are calling for

Mike McCarthy's head. They seem undisciplined. You know, it's not good that, Like I mentioned, Seedee Lamb will be the number one receiver and he just had one catch in their playoff game against San Francisco, their last game of the season, just one catch, and now that's their top wide receiver. So I don't know, I I think you you kind of look at well, Ezekiel Elliott will have to carry this team and Tony Pollard, who's a much cheaper, better value. Zeke Elliott was fantastic last year and is

expected to be so again. So I don't know, Cowboys to me have a lot of question marks. I don't know if you saw this too, They're valued. This is totally off the field, but they're valued at seven point six four billion dollars. They're the most valuable team in sports. I mean that's wild. But apart from that, apart from Jerry Jones being a very rich man, I think he's going to have another headache of a season. What do

you think? You know, I think they'll be okay. I don't think I would bet the plus one for you to win a division, because again it's the upside down. But I am a little like ten and a half win total. Yeah, I know, and I know they beat that last year. I just I don't know if I see them winning twelve games eleven twelve games, I could see them winning nine or ten. So I think it's like right on the line. But I'm definitely going under

on that. And they you know, they always kind of stumble at some point and lose some games, potentially to the Texans in Week fourteen that you're like, what just happened? We're supposed to win this division. So yeah, I'm out on the Cowboys. But also, it's really hard for me to say positive things about the Cowboys really hard. Being a Giant fan, it's really hard for me to say. But they are, They're good. I think maybe nine or ten wins is a softer landing spot, so I would

not take the over at all. Okay, you know, let's dig into your Giants while we're here. Was giving you a hard time. Obviously, they have a new coach, Brian day Ball. They had to top ten picks in this year's draft, cave On Thibodeaux and an offensive tackle Evan Neil from Alabama. So yeah, let's just dig into your

quarterback Daniel Jones for a minute. He had thirty six fumbles in thirty eight games, and guess what their record is when he's starting games twelve and so obviously you can blame a lot of that on his O line. Last year horrible. They looked horrible in the preseason opener against the Patriots. And you know who really concerns me. Who was supposed to be a great target for Jones, a great playmaker for the Giants is your wide receiver

Kenny Golladay. He's just been a disappointment. He had zero touchdowns last year, and in that preseason game against the Patriots, which I don't know if you watch, I don't know how much you care about the preseason, but he had a bunch of red zone drops. So I'm down on Kenny Golladay, I'm down on their own line again, and I am just never that optimistic with the ball in Daniel Jones hands. So it's kind of like the poll. That's why I say. I say it's the upside down.

It's like the polar opposite of like the to a situation. Right, they're both entering year three, and with Daniel Jones it's very much well, he just hasn't been healthy and he hasn't had an offensive life. We really need this is the year we really need to see it from him. If he's the guy or else, we gotta get off him and move on. And they've never quite put him in that position to to show it, and he keeps

getting like another year, it's all okay. With two, it's very much like you're gonna do this this year, like you gotta, we have a great offense for you, you got quarterbacks, coaches, like this is the year. If you don't do it, we're probably out. Daniel Jones has had, for some reason, a lot more leeway. I do actually think that, Yeah, look the fumbles and the turnovers are that's his thing, Like he has to cure that or else it's not gonna work out. If he does cure that,

he is effective. He was making a lot of plays with his legs till he had that like back neck hamstring injury. But when I just talk about the over under six and a half on winds right, look, I loved what they did with coach coordinators, everything, massive upgrade. I don't think we're gonna be running quarterback sneaks and handoffs on third and twelve anymore. I think we're actually gonna have an offense. Yes to Kenny Golladay stuff. But

Daniel Jones wasn't. He was hurt last year. I don't fully blame him, however too on the six and a half, tell me if you see the path to seven wins for the Over. Now they play Texans, they play the Jags, they play the Lions. We do play your Packers and now, look, probably will lose to the Packers, but it's not in Lambeaux. I I like my odds ten percent more that it's in London where the Giants play, So we don't have to go into Lambeau at all. And then we get

the Commanders twice. Maybe we steal one from the Eagles and Cowboys. Those are always like dog fights. So I love love, love and that you could call the home pick. Sure, love the Giants over six and a half wins. Don't love obviously the division. I mean, I don't know if I feel comfortable on the plus seven fifty to win a division. But I love the over on the wind total because I think the rookies, the coaches, and maybe a healthy danger and also say Quon can see Quan

stay healthy and being healthy player on this team. I think that's a layup for over on the six and a half wind total. Okay, Okay, so that you're going to ride that one heavy all year. I'm gonna keep tabs. Yeah, No, I like it. I like it. Like you mentioned, there's some there's some sneaky wins in there that I can see for sure. Okay, with the Eagles and Commanders. Just to round out the division, let's the Eagles nine and a half wins, Commanders seven and a half wins. I

mentioned the awkward Carson Wentz interview. Carson Wentz has his work cut out for him. This is gonna be a tough year. They're trying to figure out their identity. I don't know, a team who doesn't even know their own name. What do you think of the commander's name? It definitely gonna take some some getting used to, for sure. It's still is just I just still will just call them Washington.

But you know, for those two teams, you know, if I'm kind of fading the Cowboys on the under and kind of riding the Giants, and I kind of do the same thing with the Eagles, and I do like the Eagles over nine and a half wins. You know, Jalen Hurts really has to kind of perform, but he has the wide receivers. Now hopefully Miles standards is healthy. The Commanders, yeah, I'm just uh, I'm sorry. Seven and I don't see eight wins. I just don't see it.

They always surprised us. They always hang around and steal a wild card or division win. They stumbled into the division at seven and nine two years ago. I don't see it. So I go over on the Eagles win total, and I would throw the plus one sixty on the division. From fading the Cowboys, I kind of handed to the Eagles, which pains me to say, Okay, okay, you know, I think I'm going to agree as well. I think I'm liking the Eagles to win the division. Okay, let's go

to the NFC North. This is where things get a little prickly. I'm not gonna start with the Packers. I'm gonna start with the Lions because I'm loving Hard Knocks so much. Have you watched yet, of course, And I just will say all the Hard Knocks feelings that make you emotional, it never really quite works out. Just be careful of the Hard Knocks emotions that you feel and just being like with caution with the hard Knocks thing. I do love it, though, You're You're so right. You

know what I love about the Lions. So their number two overall pick, who you know is everyone didn't know if you'd go first overall to Jacksonville, and he ended up going to his home team, which is the Lions. Aidan Hutchinson played at Michigan. He's from Michigan. Great story. His sister, by the way, one miss Michigan, USA, like right after he was drafted. So this is just an all star families. That's a lot of fun to watch.

The Lions are plus eight fifty to win the division, so not very good odds there, and six and a half wins. I mean, look, there's a lot of hype around this gritty you know, Dan Campbell, just the word grit just keeps coming to mind, and their own line is much improved. I don't know, I can see maybe seven wins. I don't think that's a crazy bet. Yeah, if the old line and the young players that they have show up, I definitely see the path. But it might just be the historic, maybe it's the maybe it's

under six and a half. But they just cover a lot more games. You know, they were kind of the Kings of like the back door cover. You know, they would just be down seventeen, it's like, all right, this is lock. Then somehow they'd like lose a heartbreaker. I remember, like they actually left a lot of wins on the field last year of games they could have stolen. So it's really hard to have any sort of a feel because if they close out some of those wins, Like, yeah,

I can absolutely see seven wins with the Lions. But it's almost like a stay away from you. But I'm gonna have a lot of fun watching because they're so young and you know, the golf of it all, So I kind of stay away but I just could we bypass the Bears. I want to get to your packers. Uh. Look, love with Bears, love justin fields. That offensive line very

very worried. You know, they lose Allen Robinson, which I used to do segment after segment when I was big into fantasy football of Alan Robinson deserves a quarterback more than any other receiver NFL. You know, I did one segment the year about look what this guy's numbers are without really a you know, top even twelve quarterbacks. So you know, I would have loved to have seen him in fields though, would have been fun because I do

like fields a lot. But I just I just worry about the line, you know, with the Bears, and are they going to give him time and or is it going to be he's just running for his life on the line horrible and the line looked back. Look, it's looking bad already in the preseason. I mean, they're not improved at all. And remember in Justin Field's first start last year, he was sacked nine times. I mean, I'm with you, I'm not like the most all time sack

quarters or David Carr. And then even on the on the defensive side, roke On Smith, the linebackers trying to leave. It's just it's very Cleveland situation where players are all requesting trades. But um, anyway, let's go to the Vikings because I think they are the stiffest competition to the Packers. They have a new head coach, Kevin O'Connell, who I think can really unleash something here, unleash branded. I think they were held back by Mike Zimmer and Kirk Cousins

is study at the Helm. You know, no one lost more close games last year than the Vikings. They seem to, you know, win games they weren't supposed to and lose games they weren't supposed to. And I don't know defensively. They get Zadarius Smith from Green Bay. I will miss him. I think he's gonna be great in Minnesota and they're kind of this perpetual wild card contender. But a lot of people are saying they might be the most improved team in the NFL this season. Do you think so?

I really do I think? And you know, I like Zimmer as a coach, but they're always you know, we talked about teams stumbling. They probably stumbled more than anyone I mean that offense has been loaded for years now. Dalvin Cook, if healthy, is one of the best backs I think I've ever seen. Like the problem is he just just gets hurt because like eighty guys wrap them

up because that's how hard he is to tackle. This is who I would be the most worried about as a Packer fan if you're buying any of the well, Davante's gone, what are the Packers really gonna be? And we're gonna see so if there's a little fade there, like the Vikings are absolutely the team that needs to catch all that fade. I like them a lot on

over nine and a half. I think they win some of those games that they should have one last year, and I think it's a real, real competition for that division. I think it's too dough. I think it's Vikings Packers. I give a slide edge to the Vikings. I'm sorry, don't don't And I love Aaron Rodgers. If they're healthy, I see, I do see it finally, Yeah, Okay, okay, no, it's okay. I I mean the divisions always are, so hey, we'll take a little competition. I still like the Green

Bay Packers. Let's get to them. I think what's been promising from what we've seen in the preseason when they played out in San Francisco is rookie wide receiver Romeo Dobbs. I like this guy. I like this guy a lot. He looked really good, and everyone is questioning what we're gonna do with receiver. Well, maybe receiver by committee, you know what I mean. It might just be one of

those years. And obviously some offensive line injuries with Elton Jenkins David Bactieri like I mentioned earlier, but there's some options here. And then I like our run game with Aaron Jones and a J. Dillon Like I mentioned, we gotta get a j on the show. But uh, I think our run game is gonna be stout. So those are the Green Bay Packers and they're still a favorite to win the division. Let's see their odds and you you like Over, like, where are you with the eleven

and a half wind total? I like Over. I like him to win at minus one and I like at least twelve wins. Sure do you? You gotta beat the Giants in London. If that's gonna happen, you have to go through the Giants in London. All roads go through London. That's good, okay, NFC South Tom Brady is back, but he's on vacation. I mean right. Don't you think that a lot of people were concerned when he stepped away for a little bit. And then it's kind of coming out some speculation of oh, maybe he's just on a

vacation that was planned before his retirement was revoked. I don't know where. Where do you think Tom is? I don't know. But when I say who cares? I mean that will do respect. It's like me too, don't I know? Like when my mom retired, she had a bunch of sick time saved up, and she's like, oh, I can retire early and just use the sick time even though I'm not sick. I look at it like this is like sick time you never took. Guy hasn't missed a

lot of games, you know, maybe phased out camp. I just think, look, I'll be there, guys, I'll be there. I'll be on time when the game's I'll be there. Like trust me. So if anyone's earned the trust to be like, all right, you want to go on an extent, like come on, man, I got forty five years old. Let go ahead, take an extended vacation. That's fine. I don't think that you're sitting a bad example for the young guys. I think they absolutely know who you are

and what you've been about your entire career. So go heay do whoever it is. You hope everything's okay, right, you hope? Obviously he's not taking leave for any negative reasons. And if it's just I need a little more time before I get going. Take it. You're forty five years old, take it. Take it. Doesn't bother me at all. Yeah, And they are the favorite minus two seventy five to win the division. They're in such a bad division, so yeah that I don't think there's anything. And they're loaded,

Yeah they are. They're absolutely Like Gronk retires and it's like, all right, well, you know what, even if like Julio Jones does like a half a Gronk impression, which he and I know they don't play the same position, but just on the receiving side, like they are low dead. Although yeah, but Julio, Julio is on his third team in three years, and I mean he's he's always supposed to be this big red zone target and I feel like he's just kind of disappointing. He's kind of flatlining.

I hope I'm not going to eat my words, and he's gonna blow up with Tom Brady. He probably will. Tom Brady will probably make them look really good here. Yeah, and when you when you got Mike Evans on the outside, who Mike Evans just like you know, as a touchdown machine that that could really open again. I don't think he needs to be Julio Jones of five years ago, but uh, to have that as like your third option, third or fourth option. They just loaded. They're loaded. They're loaded.

I know a lot of people are like feeling good about the Saints, and the Saints have a lot of things to feel good about, but I still can't wrap my head around looking at anyone for this division in the books they're just low barring it or they're loaded. Yeah. With the Saints, I mean, obviously they have a new coach, Sean Payton steps away. You know, the defense is great, The New Orleans defense is fantastic. They have solid vets. And then remember they get Michael Thomas back this year.

He was hurt wide receiver and Christal lave A rookie. He's been impressing at camp, so I think they've got a couple of good receiver options. And then Alvin Kamara, who's facing suspension right now, you know who You no opinion on why he suspended, but just from an X is no standpoint. His suspension is pushed back a month, so he will be playing. So offensively I like him, and defensively I like them. So still Buccaneers to win.

But let's see what's the win total for the Saints, because I'm just going to take the over for the Saints. It's eight and a half, so that that's a sneaky good over. And I guess if you like, like it said, it's hard to really you know, there plus three to win a division, So yeah, I don't know, it's kind of tough. Do you have any Probably the hardest team to really figure out? What the Panthers right, Like, we haven't seen Christian McCaffrey healthy in a while. Okay, they

have some weapons there. I do think they're well coached. Now they got Baker any sneaky little underdog. What about us Panthers stuff for them? Or like is it no? You guys are like, yeah, yeah, I don't know. Did you see their attendance at their preseason game by the way, Oh, it's pretty season though, it's really bad. So I'm kind

of friends with Baker Mayfield and his wife. And his wife put on her Instagram the other day, Emily Mayfield, she's great by the way she put on her story that she you know, it's like, come on, Panthers fans like we we gotta get you in the stands like blah blah blah blah, And I'm like, boy, that's bad. If the starting quarterback's wife is begging people to come to games, that's bad. I think they'll show up. It's preseason, Like, yeah, I I went to one preseason game in my life.

Season preseason games and Lambo are rocking. Okay, Well, I mean talking about one of the more tradition bread fan like franchises ever. You know, I've been one preseason game in my life and I'll probably never go to another one, and something terrible happened. Jason Sehorn, don't know, It's might

be before your time, okay. Jason Sehorn, whose top dB in the league for the Giants that had him running back kicks and punts preseason game against the Jets running back like his first kick blows his knee out, carded off, the whole season gone. Like I love the preseason, but I also hate it. I'm not buying into Like I think the fans in Carolina will will show up. Go beat the Browns, Watch and see if they show up in a week, two, three, and four, Go beat the Browns, Baker,

and then they'll show up. Alright, it's time, Olivia, because I really this is a division I'm most excited about because I really do have a take and I'm gonna save it. And it's one of these takes where people are again gonna roll their eyes. But if I'm right, oh, the victory lap I will take when it comes to the NFC West. That's why I love the NFC because I think there's a few of these wild takes that could actually come true. Whereas the a f C, it's a little it's a little tighter at the top. So

but let's let's slow play it. Okay, obviously we have the Super Bowl champs in this division. Are rams, Okay, we can maybe you know, let's not writ the Cardinals actually, because they had the most kind of talk in the off season with the Kylo stuff and all that. You know, they, I guess at bet MGM maybe expect a little bit of a slide because they're over under wind tonals eight

and a half their plus three fifty division. Do you think that, since all this chatter has been about sort of just Kyler Murray, like how much you did this impacts the team, do you expect them to maybe step back from where they wore last year? I personally do not much but a little step back. Yeah. I mean, look, the Cardinals were so noisy, and one thing especially, I think you've got two divas, Kyler Murray and Cliff Kingsbury.

I think they're both diva ish. And one thing that really led me to that assumption is that in camp, I guess Kyler Murray was kind of talking smack about the play calls and Cliff said, okay, you know you try it. If it's so easy, you try it, and I guess it went horribly. And Kingsbury said to the

media after I wouldn't play for coach Kyler Murray. I guess he did horrible calling plays And I think this is like Toddler behavior, And it's so funny to me that it's come down to this, and then of course the addendum and the contract of must study four hours at home and then and here's my thing with that too.

I know that's kind of old news by now, but Kyler Murray signed that contract with that verbage in it, So I don't know why it was so surprising when that leaked, when people saw that, you know, and he was he acted like he was so offended, and I think his quote was something like, you don't get this far unless you study, and blah blah blah. And obviously there are great quarterbacks in history, we know this that are not big film guys, not big prep guys, just

athletic freaks, lucky, great feel for the game whatever. Like everyone knows Brett Farve didn't know what a nickel defense was to like his third year in the NFL, you know, stuff like that. But I don't know if that's who Kyler Murray is. But look, they've got, you know, their work cut out for him. I feel like now they just have to play and and show that all this

talk can dissipate as the season gets started. And but yeah, I guess I don't like noisy teams by definition, so I don't have much hope in the Cardinals, so I'll take the under on eight and a half wins. I'm gonna take the under as well. Losing Channel Jones certainly won't help. And you know, obviously they got Hollywood Brown and he had his whole, you know, speeding arrest situation.

I just think they look put this way, if the Cardinals win that division, I am just way off and it's gonna be one of those like wow, what a bat, Like, let's maybe bury this tape early on, because I don't really I'm not saying they're an afterthought because they still have a lot of talent there and Kyler super talented, but they are not on my radar. To me, it's like a it's a three team race. I know that

might sound crazy, and I'm gonna get into it now. Okay, get into it, okay, because everyone kind of would probably think it's a two team race if that, or just maybe slot the Rams in and go for and just everyone go home, which is very I mean, that wouldn't be a bad take at all. Okay, you're ready. Look, Rams obviously plus one the division, ten and a half win total, and for where Niners plus one seventy five similarly ten and a half win total, so they pretty

even there. Now, Trey Lance, who I love. I think Tray Lance could be really really good. Is he gonna be good right now? It's a risk. We don't know. I think maybe he'll be good in two or three years. Maybe he'll be good this year. We don't know. Hard to really put your money on that. But the Niners are a good team. Obviously, we know the Rams, like Alan rob it's just loaded, loaded, loaded. You're gonna bets now we're talking about betting. This is a betting segment.

Bet mgm, this is a betting segment. Okay, sure you could go sprinkle a little plus one seventy five on the Niners. That's cute, and you may hit that. You want to really have some fun responsibly, you know, I'm not. This is not a like, you know, bet the farm situation. This is a little a little dusting, just a little taste. Hear me out on the division. Okay, this is a long shot the Seahawks at plus sixteen hundred. I mean, all I'm gonna say is, let's hear me out. Let

me make the pitch. Now again, we're talking long shot. If you're looking for a long shot. I'm not saying lock of the year. I do think the lock of the year is over five and a half wins. I do think you could penciled that and they will win six or more games. My opinion, they're probably not in division. But if you want to throw a little something at plus six D again, hear me out say, Trey Lance is still maybe a year away from being amazing, and I know they still have a lot of talent. Okay,

the Niners have the fifth hardest schedule difficulty. The Cardinals have number two. The Rams have number one. Okay, the Rams open up Bills, Falcons, Cardinals. You could say they rolled through that. Niners opened up Bears, Seahawks, Broncos. You could say they rolled through that. The Seahawks have on the schedule, the Jets, the Giants, the Lions, the Falcons, the Panthers. These are winnable games. They still have DK Metcalf, they still left Tyler Lockett, they still have a running

back there. Now. I know there's holes elsewhere. I get it, and I know we're talking you know, we're talking Gino Smith, We're talking Drew Lot, who the hell knows. But if you're gonna put a small little let's have some fun with a lottery ticket here. Definitely throw a little something on the five and a half wind total. In my opinion, I will be betting a small amount on the Seahawks to win the division based off their strength of schedule.

You know, the Rams don't get the Lions. The Rams don't get the Jets, the Rams don't get the Giants. Neither do the Niners from what I see right here. And then the schedule does get tough, so they steal some of these division games, and if the Cardinals are the ones that maybe slide, and the Seahawks could sweep the Cardinals and beat the Jets, beat the Giants, beat the Lions, beat the Falcons. They are in business. It's

all I'm gonna say. They're in business. Love Seahawks plus at over five and a half, and I am going to be sprinkling a little tiny plus sixteen hundred lottery ticket for some fun again. God, come on, all right, give it to me, Give it to me. Well, I think that take is ice cold. I don't think that's a sizzling hot take. I think that is absolute trash. The Seahawks are plus sixteen hundred. Now, you did convince me that they'll win more than five and a half games.

I'm with you on that, but I mean, come on, in a division with the Rams, forty Niners, Cardinals, that's three interesting quarterbacks. Obviously, Matthew Stafford's going through this little injury, and I don't know yet if we should be concerned about that. Sean McVeigh does not like to play starters in the preseason, so I'm not worried about, you know, any of that, or that he's not able to work out with some of his new receivers like Allen Robinson

we talked about earlier. So that's kind of it. On the Rams forty Niners, I think they go as Trey Lance goes. I think that's going to be interesting. But you know, they paid Deebo Samuel Brandon Ayuk the wide receiver, he should take another step forward. They have great line play defensively, you know, great pass rushers Nick Bosa coming off the edge, Fred Warner. There's enough to like there. With the forty Niners, I just and then the Cardinals, like I mentioned, I'm not hot on them, but I

still think they're far superior team than the Seahawks. So no, I think I think this might be a like did you just have a stroke? Are you all right? Are feeling okay? Not listen. I like lottery tickets. I like long shots. Now again, like I said, I feel a lot stronger about the over five and a half wins. I'm not telling anyone plus six hunds a lot, but you know, they open up Monday night against Russell Wilson and the Broncos in Seattle. That's gonna be an emotional

game for both sides. If they could pull off that w Then they do go into San Francisco that's gonna be potentially rough, who knows. Then they go Falcons Lions get off to that good start. Listen. I know I get it, but let it be archive. If there is some action to this. We're gonna re play this all year, all winter long. If the Seahawks are like seven and two, this clip is gonna be on my social media the

whole winter. All right, our producer, Matt, go ahead and clip this because I'm going to want to play this at the end of the season, because I think I'm gonna be looking much smarter here. My god, Hey, do you think the Falcons win one game. You mentioned Seattle plays the Falcons. Doesn't Lanna win one game? I mean I think so. I think, yes, I still think that they're like offensively, you know, I feel better about it. If calin Ridley was gonna be there, you know, but

offensively they certainly have weapons. It's gonna be uh, yes, they will the Texans one if. Yes, they'll win some games. I don't know which ones. But can you love you love the Weekly, well you love the bottom of the barrel? I just I don't know. I feel like, at least in the betting sense, it's an underdogs kind of for me. I the underdogs, I just always they just stand out

to me way way more and they're more fun. Yeah. Well, you've been sports gambling longer than I've been a lot, so maybe I should just take Joe Montana on the Chiefs. Remember that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, alright, that was an awesome episode. I've got my work cut out for me. I've got to go watch a bunch more Entourage and apparently some Stranger Things because I need to get your reference because I don't watch that. I feel like I'm

like your pop culture liaison at this point. Yeah, stranger things just be next up in the queue for you for sure, all right, all right, buddy, I'll see you next week. Thanks everyone for listening.