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Breaking Records In Buffalo with Andre Reed

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Welcome back for another episode of Unleashed, brought to you by BetMGM. On this episode Olivia Harlan Dekker and Jerry Ferrara are joined by a very exciting guest, Pro-Football Hall Of Famer, Andre Reed. One of the best to ever do it at wide receiver, he holds nearly every Buffalo Bills receiving record, playing in 7 straight Pro-Bowls and helping the Bills win a record 4 straight AFC Championships. Andre joins Olivia and Jerry to talk all things football. Hear his thoughts on why OBJ should consider Buffalo, who his toughest opponents were while playing ball, and even his response to Aaron Rodgers latest comments about the Bills. This is an episode you do not want to miss! Later, we hear from Peter as he gives us his picks and some insight when it comes to week 8 of the NFL. So hit play and listen in for another episode of Unleashed, presented by BetMGM!

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From the King of sports Books comes the Key Sports Podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Jerry Ferrara and Olivia Harlan Decker. Okay, the name of the game is parody. The unpredictable NFL season continues. Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, two future Hall of famers. Yeah, they lose to a couple of XFL along backup quarterbacks. Really a fourth string quarterback for Carolina. So who had that in their parlay? That is wild? Jerry Ferrara, I'm gonna take

it that wasn't on your teasers, was it. No? I fortunately stayed away from the Bucks in the teaser because they destroyed mine the week before. I did have the Packer in a teaser, but different than Peter Andrew who had them at plus one and a half. I waited and bought the extra point to make the Packers plus three and they lost by two. So my teas are held up by the but I had, like by the insurance points almost to make Aaron Rodgers and the Packers

hit a teaser. That's so sad. I know they've been favorites in their last three games, they've dropped all three. We'll get two more of that later. Unfortunately, we've got to give that a little air time. But hey, we got a World Series set Houston Astros Philadelphia Phillies that begins Friday. Jerry, I know you've got some thoughts on that. What what comes to mind right away, this is the

exact two teams that should be there. My Yankees lost the Astros justifiably, so the Astros are so much better than the Yankees, and the Phillies are that awesome baseball story about the team that gets hot at the right time. Bryce Harper, happy for him. You know, I and I just think it's a great, great matchup, and I honestly would I want the Yankees to be there to watch. But this, to me is gonna be better baseball. Yeah, okay,

I'm with it. I'm for you. I was thinking when I was watching that Padres Billy's last game, and it's rainy, it's cold, everyone's there in jackets, and it did look like a really fun atmosphere. But I'm like, you know, Jerry's right, these games should be done by now. You're coming around, just isn't right. Yeah, we're gonna do more on that at some point. I'll lay out a whole bigger case. But yeah, baseball, get it together. And then

I posted something on Twitter. I was just looking at all the Southern California teams and like where they should, like where, like where they after the Lakers lost that game on Sunday, I'm like, where are the Lakers ranking? And all the Southern California professional teams take U, C, l A, and USC out, and it's gonna be like Dodgers Padres. I mean you go charge, you could charges rams, like, you know, there's a lot that could go in front of them. Just there's I mean, don't all of them

pretty much. I think the Angels at the bottom. Sannaheim, you know, you have two really good players, that's really it. I think the Angels maybe are like the bottom. I think the Kings might even be ahead right now. What's the l A Galaxy doing right now? Let's out? Someone tweeted at me about like the there was some crazy matchup. I know nothing about soccer. I'm sorry, guys listening. Oh they're in the They're in the conference semifinals, right yeah,

so yeah, throw them in. Sure, I just don't know enough to put them there. But the Padres are ahead. You know so yeah, yeah, Akers, tough sledding. Yeah, we'll get to more NBA news. Take our our takes from the first week. I think we've learned a lot, at least enough for some podcast bodder because some surprises in the opening week of the NBA season. But we have a really great guest coming up today, Pro Football Hall

of Famer Andre Read. He's joining us. We're going to talk to him about his legendary career and if he thinks that this is the year is Buffalo Bills finally bring the Lombardi Trophy back to Buffalo quick? Jerry, what do you think do they? I think this is definitely the best year to do it. And I'm curious to talk to Andre Read to about, you know, the Beckham thing and is is he really going to maybe go to the Bills or do they even need him? Like they're so loaded to be great for death. So a

lot to talk about. And Andre Reid's game is just one of those receivers you look at like right now, I plug him into any team with the way he played, and he's like the perfect receiver. Absolutely. I think he's like second all time and Super Bowl receptions behind Jerry Rice or something. I mean, this is this is a big guest today, Jerry. I'm excited to talk to him. Yeah, we're following up Kevin Garnett. You say, oh, b J,

and I don't think the Bills need him. So many teams need a receiver more than the Bills, one of them being the Green Bay Packers. Holy cow. I mean, I'm kind of running out of words, and it's it's making me feel better that Tom Brady and the Buccaneers are also laying an egg at the same time because very different trajectories, very different stories, but both TV twelve and a Rod we're upset big with what. You know, a lot of people are getting side I from the

rest of the league. Right. I mentioned green Bay gets their third straight loss, and that's the first three game skid under Matt la Floor. Like ever since he's come to Green Bay, things have been rosy, So I don't know what to make of it. I saw one headline that said it's wilful negligence in reference to what the front office did at the receiver position, and I think that sums it up pretty well. I think it does too.

I mean, you know, they took a big bet with their rookie receiver that And look, you can't say he hasn't panned out because it's only been seven games. But for seven games it certainly hasn't penned. I mean, you were running Randall Cobb out there, and this is no disrespect to Randall cop I love Randall Cobb five years ago.

You know. It's uh, it's a lot too. It's a lot to ask, So I'm no longer surprised by and it doesn't get any easier the cat the Packers have to walk into those very same Buffalo Bill we were just talking about next week, so there's no end in the horizon. This would be a huge upset to me if they could somehouse. There are eleven and a half point underdogs right now, Aaron rod eleven and a half and a half point. Now, grant it's the Bills and it's in Buffalo eleven. When's the last time Aaron Rodgers

has been a double digit underdog in a game. We need John Ewing to answer that question. We're going to get on that and if we find out the answer by the end of the show, we'll put it at the end when we talk to Peter Andrew. But I mean it's crazy. I think what concerns me so much about Green Bay is that they didn't convert a third down for the first time since. Let that sink in for a minute, like it's so tough. And of course

when their division is usually the Aaron Rodgers Invitational. Now they have the same record as the Bears, and oh yeah, the Vikings are legit leading the way at five and one coming off by But you know, I will say, in regards to the NFC North, the Vikings have a pretty tough month at Arizona Bills Cowboys, but as you mentioned, Packers as well, starting with a trip to Buffalo this weekend,

and then they have Dallas, Tennessee, Philly. So NFC North I think would be really interesting here in the next month. That's actually kind of how I feel about the whole NFL. I think November defines a lot of what you're doing, do you know what I mean? Because any early season kinks are out of the way, injuries are piling up, or you're getting healthy like a team like you know, the forty nine ers, for example, I keep mentioning every week they're about to get healthy. They're gonna get so good.

They added CMC. You know, I don't know. November is gonna be pretty good in the NFL. It's been, yes, But before we close out October, could we just salute October and maybe now formally rename it money line Parlay October because if you were riding underdogs on Monday money line parlays for the last two three weeks, you have made some money. My it's just been one after the other.

The Buccaneer losing outright after having to ten points, you know, being favored by over ten points two weeks in a row. That's one of the worst losses I think I've ever seen a supposed Super Bowl contending team had. They just got abused for four quarters and I love, I mean, just three points against a team that has pretty much packed it up. Carolina just fired their coach, traded one

of their best players. Um, they're playing their fourth string quarterback, I mean, and they put up twenty one points on them, right, that's inexcusable. Do you think this is going to be the most Like you know, NBA, there's always these kind of moves where a team is like, wait, we're underachieving, we gotta make a move. Does Tampa and Green Bay like they have to make a move for this to get better. I mean, Tampa to me does have more

blue Chippers on both sides of the ball. When Mike Evans dropped that touchdown pass on like the opening play, that's where I knew Tampa was in trouble because Mike Evans does not drop passes like that. But they have no middle of the field presence. I know it supposed to be Govin. The Bucks have to be like, offer something for Gisicky or beg Grunk. They have to get one more because I had to say it was Antonio Brown doing right now. Antonio Brown would be like the

perfect piece for this team. That's never gonna happen, but they need something offensively. Yeah, and obviously Julio Jones out with a knee and he got way too much preseason hype for an injury prone older guy, right. I mean everyone was all excited about Julio Jones. I wasn't buying it. Mike Evans is expected to miss tonight's game against the Ravens. Wrestle gauges out. Yeah, Chris Godwin's kind of it as far as options that he trusts, and they're also one

of the worst rushing teams in the league. They're dead last in some rushing stats, so they don't have a lot going for him offensively. And again a short week after that Panther's loss, and yeah, tonight against the Ravens. I like the Ravens in this spot. Yeah, you know, the Ravens have their own issues as well as we've seen, but two huge games. I can't stress how big these games are for the Packers in the because these are easily games that they could lose, and if they do,

then they're really starting to get far behind. The Packers might almost be too far behind the catch up. The Bucks fortunately are in the South, so they could throw it away for a few more weeks and maybe they're just trying to get healthy and back by like week ten and they can start there run there. But this it's just been hard to watch, been ugly. Speaking of the Nnessey South, I have a hot take. I don't think the winner of this division will have double digit wins.

I mean, it's it's so bad. In Tampa. Bay is still leading and they beat Atlanta and the head to head, so they're good there, but yikes, what a horrible division. And I just gotta say one more thing with the Tom Brady stuff. Obviously, everything going on off the field is really sad, Like I actually hate watching this, and I heard Bill Simmons on his podcast say his sources have told him that his divorce is all but finalized,

which is really horrible. I hate to see that, and then that kind of loops in Antonio Brown just being at caustic asshole tweeting this stuff and putting up pictures of him and Giselle. It's all such a mess. I can't imagine Tom Brady walking into the facility every every day with all this going on. You know, he's got kids and there's a lot going on. Um, but this is the first time in his in twenty years, in the last twenty years, that Tom Brady is under five.

I mean, you got like a five million dollar broadcasting contract waiting for you that you signed when we thought you retired. I still love watching Brady play. I do want to see him try to make one more run. I think it'll be fun. But look, Eli and Peyton, they they just had Obama on the Manning cast and they had Bill Burt look like they're having fun. So you know, maybe that that could be fun, Tom. It could be great. It could be great. I think he'd

be so great. But you know, not not that I'm his therapist or anything, but I would take a couple of years off, you know, just kind of get kind of figure some stuff out. Anyways, I don't even know if that means for him taking a few years. Yeah, he probably can't. He probably one of those guys who truly can't. Probably not a very good hang on vacation, you know, I'm serious, Like there's some guys who just cannot turn it off. This will be a good heat

check if he's listening. My husband fits in this category sometimes. My husband, when we go on vacation, does not know how to sit still. See I'm the opposite. I only want to sit still on vacation. I don't want to go snorkeling. I don't want to go see the cool mountain, like we're in a cool hotel. Let's just kick it. I don't want to do anything on vacation. Oh my god.

The first we're dating, and he was with the Houston Rockets and it was NBA All Star Break and we were going to go to Mexico and it was like our first trip together. And he said, what are we gonna do? And I was like, you know, I just sit on the beach, Penny Clods, I don't know. And we get there and he we sit up on the beach and he goes, so what are we gonna do? I'm like, oh boy, I have to teach this guy how to vacation. Anyways, that's a tangent. Like I said,

I'm not a relationship therapist, but start with a good vacation. Well, here's my last hot take before we move on. I go pool over beach all day Oh, you're one of those guys who doesn't like to get dirty. You don't like the sand, like the sand on my toe. I pool over beach all day long. Okay, I can get it. But that's saltwater, man. Oh that is that is medicine. A seatox. Okay, it's time Jerry for a Halloween edition of Unleaked. It's time to unleash. We're calling this game

trick or treat, which is how original. That's right. One thing is for sure this NFL season, anybody can beat anybody. One day a team looks great, the next they're suffering a humiliating loss. So it's very spooky stuff. So a team will knock on the door and then Jerry, you and I will decide if they are playing tricks on us this season or if they're actually a treat. Are you ready? I'm ready. Let's do it all right, Let's use that the door first. Oh, look who it is.

It's the four and three Los Angeles Chargers, Olivia. This one's an easy one for me. This is a trick. They've been tricking us. And if it's not injuries, like you know j C. Jackson for the season, which is horrible, or Mike Williams for a couple of weeks. I also think that Herbert, who's great like but is he great? Like? Yeah, he does things that look great, but like, let's win some games. Two charges have been tricking us. I'm with you.

I think they're a trick. They just lost by two scores at home to your Seattle Seahawks after three game win streak, and like you mentioned, they lost a lot more than just the game. J C. Jackson, Mike Williams, Ed Rusher Chris Chris Rump also injured in this game. They're already without Joey Bosa, who's recovering from a growing surgery. Uh. Look, they just got Keenan Allen back, but he didn't even play in the second half because he wasn't feeling it. So I don't know. I think. I think they are

as depleted as any team in the NFL. The Oline has struggled. The run game is a mess. They're a trick Okay, who's at the door? Next it's the floor and two Titans and Jerry. I think they are a treat top of the a f C. South there four and two. Like I said, they're exceeding expectations. No one saw this coming. They're playing old school football. It's non flashy.

And now we've got to see how Tannehill does after this ankle injury he just had last week against the Colts, and that when he did finish the game, we got to monitor it. But him coming back to finish that game shows how tough they are because the old line kind of similar story. Guys are fighting through these injuries and Derrick Henry three straight weeks of a hundred yards and more importantly, this defense is legit at a couple interceptions for his bumble last week. They got Matt Ryan benched,

So I like them. They're a treat. I completely agree. The history has shown on their fabel they are a treat. We kind of always look past the Titans. I don't know why, but they're always there. That division is such a mess. I think they got the Texans and the Broncos next to two out of three weeks. So there's a lot of wins there. Yeah, and even if Tannehill, who if he struggles with injuries, I like Mollie Willis coming in if he has to give them some some snaps.

And Matt Ryan you mentioned and I don't know, I they're gonna show up at the door. We're talking about saving private Ryan not Ryan might need to just like, yeah he's done that. That looks bad him and do him and Tom Brady need to go on vacation together. Maybe just like they can go stay somewhere really nice. They're super loaded. I just do something. Yeah, we don't know. If we don't know if the cults are gonna knock, we don't know who's up next. This is an interesting one,

great costume. The four and three Miami Dolphins. I have to say treat. I mean, it's such a shame. I'm worried because of everything with Ta and what he's been through the last few weeks. And Kenny stay healthy. I mean, this is gonna be a thing to look out for. But they did show how stout they could be against Pittsburgh. They had some big fourth quarter stops to win. The offense did just enough, and they're just not healthy yet. If they get healthy and stay healthy, they are a

treat all day. Yeah, in this Tyreek Hill experiment is paying off. I love tyreekan to it together. They've proven to be a great match. They have Detroit this weekend. Mark that as a win. Dolphins are a treat. Okay, who's at the door. It's the Ravens and they're also four and three, and Jerry, I hope I don't regret saying this. I think they're a trick. I think they're a trick. Now. Look, the defense has improved a lot.

Their top five in the NFL and interceptions. They pulled one off last week at a three point win over Cleveland. But look, I'm concerned about this offense. They're trending in the wrong direction. Lamar Jackson only had sixteen pass attempts last week. He hasn't really gotten in a rhythm the last couple of weeks. Actually, they're averaging just twenty and a half points, about twenty points three twenty yards in their last four games. Their first three they average thirty

three and three eighty. And I'm throwing a lot of numbers at you. But it's bad. Okay, it's bad. And they play tonight against Tampa Bay. I think this could be a get back game for a team that is super vulnerable, and they need it because Lamar Jackson needs to get in his rhythm in the passing game. They're struggling on offense. There a trick. I think they're an absolute treat. Now. I know it hasn't looked good. They are also one of the most injured teams in the league.

It just year in, year out. I do think Lamar's looked good, not great great in flashes could look better, and I think will once they get you know, they get their running backs healthy at some point and their receivers healthy at some point. Four and three in that division, I think the Bengals are coming alive. But also think about the a f C for a minute. Okay, who are the wild card teams? Really? Who are we talking about when we think wild cards? Is it the cults?

Is that the Chargers, Is that the Dolphins? Is that the Jets? I think the Ravens are a shoe in for a wild card team, So I'm going I'm going to treat okay, all right, this is another Los Angeles team, l A so so cow sports just killing it this year. The three and three Rams for me Olivia, this is an absolute trick. Now I know they won the Super Bowl. They're missing von Miller and O b J for sure. I think this isn't even a trick. I think this is like now the old dude who still wants to

go to the costume party. It's like put the costume away, like Halloween's like wu tang, It's for the kids, like put it away, don't show up. Why are you still trick or treating? You're old? I'm worried. Now. Could the Rams get healthy? Put it together with that veteran team for sure, and they still got Jealen Ramsey and I love McVeigh, but I don't like when I'm seeing motivationally and also just age wise with Stafford, that's a lot of hits he's taken. It's a lot of wear and tear.

So it's Cooper cop versus the world. Yeah, I hear you. I think Rams are a treat. I think they're getting healthier, just in time. They have San Francisco this weekend. I think they beat San Francisco. Um. But yeah, their division has proven more difficult than expected, mostly because of your Seahawks. Again, I've come out of nowhere and then I do think San Francisco with the addition of Christian McCaffrey now and again, they just need like two of these stars to come back.

They're just anyways, that's a tangent, but division is tough. Rams are going to get better. Um. I think they are a treat. Okay, we've talked a lot about him. Knock knock, knock. Here are Jerry's Seahawks sitting up four and three seven weeks into the season. No one would have thought that the Seahawks would be leading the NFC West with the hell my co host and Jerry, I'm I'm really glad that we got this on tape a couple of weeks ago. That might have even been our

first show. But you are looking very smart here. Look, they have a young team. They've rookies up and down the starting lineup, and they all believe. It's like the ted Lasso believe sign must be in that locker room. They have this all decade coach and Gino Smith at quarterback. He's putting together a Pro Bowl season. He's earning himself a lot of money next year. And Kenneth Walker the third, My god, I can't say enough good things about him. He was crazy. So I don't know. I'm worried with

DK mccalf. I think he's going to try to come back to early. I think he's out this week, Um, probably a couple of weeks, but he's going to try to come back. Um. Luckily he doesn't need surgery on that knee injury. But look, they have some winnable games coming up, and I don't know. I don't know if I want treat I don't think you declared. You have not declared yet. You have to declare. You just laid out a beauty case for you. Got to declare. I

just I can't do it. I can't do it. I just don't think like some magic with a young squad is sustainable. I just have a hard time saying that this is for what have they been this year to this point? Have they been a trick or have they been a treat? Oh, they've been a treat, And what do you see going forward? So you're saying up, listen, Key, I need all this doubt. I love it. Keep bringing it. I want everyone to keep bringing it, because now we turn on any podcast or any any talking head show,

the Seahawks or Everyone's darling? Who's darling? Were you first? Seattle? Who's darling? When you first? I believe? And I'm the only one you drafted Kenneth Walker and so many people in my fantasy leagues like who you watch? I do worry about the DK Metcalf thing. That's that's a little troubling. And Key again when they took him off on that cart, thought, oh, he probably just has to pee again. That was last week.

I have over wins and I have Division winner on the Seahawks, and I have that mixed in with some giants over winds Parley. I I have some stuff in the my futures profile. Is you'd want to invest in my futures profile? Yeah? God, your kid's tuition on the line right there with the Seahawks. Okay, a couple more, This one will be fun for you. I can't wait trick or treat. Who's at the door. It's the Minnesota Vikings at five and one. I mean, it ain't pretty,

but you have to say treat. Okay, they're coming off a bye, so you like the thing that they're healthy. Everything is just lining up. Green Bay continues to get words, Cousins, continues to get better, and continues to not get hit. He's one of the least sack quarter acts in the league. Hard to believe that. And the only loss is to Philly and that was a game. Now they have only one four they won four straight since by like one score. They're kind of a heart attack waiting to happen when

you watch that As a sustainable I don't know. But they have Justin Jefferson, and to me, that's also someone. While we talked about this trick or treat stuff, I love talking Justin Jefferson. Plus six hundred for Offensive Player of the Year. I think that's a good number to get right now. He's not the favorite by any stretch. I think it's Jalen Hurts. I think that's a great number to do a little sprinkling on Justin Jefferson offensive player of the Year. Not you know, it's not a

lottery ticket, but I think it's a solid investment. Right now that number goes lower, I think that number the odds get worse. I'd be an idiot to say the Vikings are not a treat. I really think they are. As I mentioned earlier, they have a tough November schedule. Justin Jefferson, top three receiver in the league. He's so much fun to watch. Now, if I can be a hater for a minute, I would say they're four straight

game that they've won by one score. Is that one of those situations where you can say, does their record look better than they are? You know what I mean? I mean, if we're it's a game of inches, are we inches away from them being like three and three? I don't know. I'm just trying to be a hater, but they're a treat. What am I saying? Okay, the New York Giants your team. I gotta see him up close and personal here in London, England. I gotta see him beat my team, and that was not fun. But

they are a treat. Tough ground games, second most rush yards in the NFL. They have Dallas on their heels, and now they have Dak Prescott back to really find a groove. And those two teams meet on Thanksgiving. That is a huge game. But Jerry, I think the Giants went out until that game at Seattle. Then they host the Texans, then they host the Lions. They're legit, They're not getting much respect around the league, and I think they are a treat. I think that is a harder

and six and one record. So look, this is an emotional one for me, and I'm going to be careful year because I love underdog mentality. We were underdogs last week, gonna be underdogs again in Seattle. Historically, Seattle has been a really weird place for the Giants to play. I remember the Sean Alexander game when they had like forty five false start penalties because it was so loud in there. It bums me out because like, obviously, the Giants are my favorite team and the Seahawks are my crush of

the year, so it's hard. I obviously want the Giants to win, but it's gonna hurt my Seahawks bet. But yeah, the Giants are a treat. And I will say Thanksgiving first to cow I haven't cared about the Thanksgiving game, and I don't know how many years now my birthday is November, I'm either on or around Thanksgiving. This year

it's the next day. And now we've segued into adulthood where Brie and I were like the we host Thanksgiving, so I have full control of TV's not going to someone else's house, and it's like they want the Thanksgiving parade on. That game will be on every single TV. I could disappear into my own bedroom if I want gets too intense, and I could like sweat it out in there. And lastly, I'm sorry, lastly talk about coach crush. I have a coach crush. I think we all do.

Brian Dable coming out of Jacksonville walking up to the fans signing autographs while smoking a cigar where black cement Jordan's threes. Are you kidding me? It's like someone said, hey, let's make Jerry Ferraras like favorite things and put it in a coach. Oh my god. I put that video to the opening theme song for the Sopranos because it had strong Tony soprano vibes coming out with the cigar. Well, what a guy. I just stable, But I have such

a coach crush on Dable it's insane. Boy. We have different definitions of coach crush, because for me, I'm just thinking Mata Fleur is a good looking man. Okay, let's move on. That was a good unleashed segment. I'm exhausted from trick or treating. I realized why I'm too old for the ship. Our guest today is one of the best to ever do it. At wide receiver. He holds nearly every Buffalo Bills receiving record, played in seven straight Pro Bowls, and of course help the Bills win a

record four straight a SC championships. My god, Pro Football Hall of Famer Andre Read is here. Welcome to the show, Andre oh Man. You know, we talked of off camera here a little bit, so we're all over the place. But I'm glad to be here. I appreciate you guys. Finally I'm finally getting it right here to get on with you. So here we go. I love it. Yeah, you're you're in Ottawa right now and and always doing some work off the field and your post career. But look,

I'm always curious about this. As the NFL evolved, which are some of the offenses you'd love to play in today? Well, you know what's That's a great question because a lot of the offenses have used our formula in a way if you guys, you guys don't, maybe you do, you probably do remember to know huddle and uh fast paced. So that's always has been a part of their people's offenses.

But um, the game is different. They want to spread you out even more than they did when we when I came in the league, especially when our no huddle started working real well. You know, you gotta have a good quarterback that knows what he's doing, good receivers, a good running back that we had. But the offenses now were you know all about the quarterback. It's always been about the quarterback and getting the guys around them to

make them better in their their offense more efficient. Um, you need to stout the offensive line that can protect that guy. And that's really the trend, it's been a trend the last twenty years in the league is to have that stud quarterback. You gotta have the receivers and you gotta have a running back that can catch the ball and run ball. Now, I'm not letting you have to hook that easy. You gotta name a team. I

think the Bills, the chief staying the Bills. Of course, the Bills and the Rams are kind of like you know that those teams. You know, you got Cooper cup On with the Rams and Stafford, and you've got Digs and Gabriel Davis with Josh Allen. Uh So, of course I'm biased. I'm gonna go with the Bills. You're right, obviously, although your phone might ring, and it might be Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers because they're in desperate need of

some receiving health. So your phone might ring and say, hey, and could you come give us a quarter right now? I feel like you got that in you right now, you're in great shape. I can actually give them a quarter, actually a quarter, like like a physical quarter, a physical quarter. I give them anything else. I don't know about that, but again, um, obviously you have Yes, the Bills, I'm gonna go with. Their offense are very you don't see

really fast paced offenses anymore. It's more about efficiency and the guys in the right positions doing the right things with an offensive line that can protect the quarterback. Yeah, you know you mentioned how a lot of teams right now play the style that you you know, the Bills are playing. In the nineties, and uh, I absolutely was always a friend. I'm a Giants fan, so even in the Super Bowl I was terrified to play your bills

like that offense was something we never saw before. They did a good job of keeping us off the field. And to stop an offense that could score a lot of points, you don't let them on the field. And that's you know, that's what the Giants did back in the day. But I don't know if that's the benchmark of how defenses go about defense and some of these

really good offenses nowadays, it probably still is. You've got to keep them off the field and don't make mistakes and and keep them within you know what they not only what they do best, but trying to limit them at what they do best. You know, it's fun. Thanks to YouTube, we can look up so many great highlights. Tap type in anyone and you can see any play any day. It's really cool seeing some one handed catches

of yours. Now they go viral, you know, on social media, but you know you were you were doing it long before, oh b J. So what was the comparison then of just people walking down the street and saying, hey, nice catch, Because it's all over the internet. So social media has not only enhanced sports, but it's enhanced the world. And you know, in the early eighties and early nineties, late eighties,

early nineties, there was no such thing. And um, I tell all these guys, you can have one catch and that can go viral and that could be the catch that makes you who you are. And if you don't back in the eighties, if you didn't see that catch, you might not ever see it. So that's the difference.

That's definitely the difference. Now guys, guys are out there more, they're doing a lot more and using their platform more to enhance what they do, want to feel and what they do off the field, for better, for worse, yes,

hopefully for better, mostly for better. Yeah, you know, in recent years, but we said, we've seen it in the NBA where the sort of the super team, right, we never really saw it in football, but we're starting to see it a little bit more where it seems like guys are sort of pairing up almost like there's player recruiting. Was there anyone that you can recall back during those Bills years that not that you were recruiting necessarily because it's such a different era, but just someone that you

need the Bills are maybe even close to get. It's like, if we just get this guy here, it would put us over the level. Or were you guys just all not enemies? But just like he didn't even think that way to We didn't know that's that's a good question to you guys are coming up with some good ones. We didn't even think of it that way because we had everything. We felt we had a team that we wanted to keep the keep together for ten to fifteen

years if we could and develop that. Obviously, free agency was big back then, but it's not as big as it is. You know, it wasn't big back then, and like like it is now. Um, one player could put you over the top. And a lot of teams in this league are looking for that one player offensive defense or whatever to get him over the top. I e. Von Miller last year with the Rams. You know, he put the Rams over the top. So glad we have

von Miller now. Anyway, but these guys now that are at the end of their careers, they want to go to a team where not only can they make a difference, but put their team on the right path to win a super Bowl. Von did that last year and we're hoping he does that with the Bills this year. So, UM, I think teams think that way. Whether or not that happens, Um, it's here and nor there, but they look for that one player that can put him over the top, to get him over the hump, to get him to the

Super Bowl and win. And Von has already brought so much to this Bills defense this year. But what about his former Rams teammate Odell Beckham Jr. Gott to bring it back to him? Would you like to see him in the Bills uniform? Yeah, of course. I mean I said this a couple of months back, and I met with Odell and it went viral to Uh, I met with O'Dell in in Atlantic City and he's working hard to get back on the field, and I think he

will be with the team. He talked with Von, and Von has a good way of and I said this, Von has a great way of lur and some of his guys to follow him, and uh, we love to see you know, O'Dell in in red, white and blue and buffalo. But that's yet to be seen. Who knows. There's a lot of teams that are vuying for Odell

Services right now and we'll see how that goes. But if Von has anything to do with it, you can bring him bringing the Buffalo just you know, some chicken wings and some blue cheese and all that kind of The fans of Buffalo are out of control. They're crazy. Bills Mafia. Maybe Odell will h you know, lean towards Buffalo a little bit more than the other teams. Andre. I saw that clip you speak about Bills Mafia, right. I love Bills Mafia. I saw the clip of you

going through at the table. Alright here, I am. Let's go Bills and bring a championship back to the to the city of Buffalo. Bills, Baby, let's do this. That's gotta hurt, man, It doesn't hurt now when you when you had Steve at Water and Ran and Ronnie Lock coming at you full steam with no flags. Going through a table is nothing well you brought up to date. Steve Atwa was one of my favorite players to watch.

I would love to talk for a second. I'm sure you've been asked this in your career and even post career so much so forgive me, but I get the chance to talk to you you know, the comeback as the game is referenced to right, thirty five to three, deaf is it now? Also, I will say Frank Right gets a lot of the love, as he should. But you had eight catches for a buck thirty six and three touchdowns in that game. So we should never overlook

that fact of the comeback. I'm just always, you know, because I respect pro athletes so much within the heat of battle, like when you're at the half of that game, is there really that feeling of still believing? Even we saw it with Brady and the comeback with Atlanta Downe, You guys are down thirty five to three to another high powered offense. That offense was the only thing close to yours. You guys are still believing at that point? Right? Of course you first of all, you guys weren't born,

right I was. I wasn't Were you born? Like? No? That was it was so how I was born? I was twelve? There my point there. Um, that's a great question, man. I think that game that not not only goes down the history, is one of the greatest games that ever played. It's the way that game I went. You know, we didn't we had played Houston the week before to even get to that game. So we had to win that game just to get to the to the wild card game, and we happened to be down in Houston, the old

the old Astrodome. We played in. Yeah, I'm really aged myself, you guys, I just want you to know. And we got we got the pretty well down there. Moren moon they put it on us. So we ended up having to play then the next week in Buffalo, and we came out and laid an egg the first half of this half of that game, and we were like, oh, are we gonna do this in front of our fans, And we had to make a conscious effort and the decision we got this far, we didn't and I'll go out.

You know. We didn't want to go out like we did. Uh, we don't want to go out losing like we did the week before. So we got two fans on our side and a couple of plays and before you know it, you know we're kicking a field goal to win the game. So it's it's just a game of things changing and you'll be able to capitalize on the things that are changing. Every Yeah, they can give you a bowl of whatever you like to eat. If there's not one or two ingredients in that bowl whatever you like to eat, you

you might not eat it. So we ended up having that everything going our way with the fans and everything, and just so happens that we we capitalize on everything they gave us. Oh that's a good story. Yeah, that one always stuck out. I think it was a lot harder. I feel like it was a lot harder to come back.

Like now, you see comebacks a lot of the fourth quarters, like the witching Hour at Scott Hanson calls it, and I think it's almost like a lack of a run game that we see now, Like I feel like coming back in ninete was just so much harder than mounting a comeback now because a lot of teams don't have the running game to kill the clock the way the teams did back then. That's to me, that's the best

football come back in my opinion. Well, to me that is too And there's been a lot of comebacks, you know, the Brady and the Patriots winning and into Super Bowl obviously was a bigger game, but you've got two or three games like that a year. It may not may not be the thirty game, but there's a point in the game where that always happens, and there's always teams going on. Oh, all you need is one play to get the ball rolling and you're you lost the game

because of whatever reason. So um and offenses are geared to do that, to have comebacks like that because of spreading guys out, making mismatches all that kind of stuff. Um. Back in it was hard to get mismatches. Now you film and everything like this, you can you can pinpoint it and you can say, all right, we have to attack that. And if we can't attack that in the way we need to, then we have to go somewhere

else to attack this to soften that up. So yeah, Andreas, we're looking at this current NFL season and how the a f C specifically is shaping up. Two of the better games on the bill schedule has been the four point win over Kansas City and the three point win

over Baltimore. Who do you feel like, not just those two teams, but who do you feel like is the biggest threat to the Bills this season in the a a f C. Obviously the Chiefs, I mean, the Chiefs aren't going on as long as they've got Pat Mahomes back there and Travis and a great coach, and Andy Reid who's coach in Super Bowls and one one. Um, the Chiefs are always gonna be there. Um, the Ravens are always going to be that team because of Lamar. You

just don't know. They have a pretty good deference, but Lamar kind of puts them over the top. The Bengals. Who knows about the Bengals. The Bengals, you know it played well this past weekend. Um scored a lot of points. They're they're kind of finding their stride a little bit. Um. Everybody thinks the Bengals were a fluke from last year. You know where the Bengals should have Bengals even been in the Super Bowl. Last year they beat the Chiefs to get to the Super Bowl, So yes, they should

have been there. But the a f C this year is is the Bills in the beginning where the team. Okay, the Bills are gonna win it. They're going through the super Bowl. They're gonna win it. Back that up, We don't we don't know yet. There's a lot of season left. Um, they got some tough teams coming up. Um, they got the Packers this Sunday. Uh, Sunday night. The Packers need to win really bad. And if you heard what Aaron Rodgers said, Oh yeah, we just got the Bills where

we need them right now. Well you gottam in an Orchard Park and you gotta you got a hot team right now. But this can make the season for the Packers. At three and three, the Packers are looking right now of a spark to get there, you know, get the ball rolling for them. And it could be a trap game for Buffalo coming off a bye week. It's a trap game. So the Bill's gotta you know, they have

to just take care of business. No matter what I was gonna say, I was on the sideline for Bills Kansas City AFC champion or the playoff game last year that was to be one of the best NFL games of all time. I think a lot of NFL lums would have other words to say about that. About that, Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, it's a pretty good playoff game that we were talking about earlier. Um, it seems like this is such a clear cut path that this is our uh, this is going to be the game in

the playoff again that we're all talking about. And I'm just curious if you think, as we're approaching trade deadline, if there's any weakness, any vulnerability that the Bills have that you think they should try to fill up the trade deadline to get ready. Well, maybe another meeting. That's a good question to you know, Christian McCaffrey's gone, so he's in San Francisco now. So they were the Bills were always talking about getting a running back, whether it's

before the trade dayline, deadline, after in the draft, whatever. Um, whether or not, that's the way the team is thinking now, you know who knows what they're thinking. Um. I think Devin Sang Singletary has done a great job. Um, he's he's played played, He played played pretty well last year in the playoff game and he kind of stepped it up a little bit in the playoffs. He's still that guy. I mean, he's had a pretty good year. He's a very solid year. If anything would be Zack Moss, then

you know, trying to get rid of him. I mean, Dalvin Cook's brother James Cook has played well. So if anything that the Bills would go for would be a running back, maybe not now but towards the end of the season. But they have to do it now. If they're gonna do it because of the trade deadline, they'd have to do it now, so um. And otherwise they

they're they're pretty solid. Um when at every position. Um, they've been injured in the defensive backfield with with Micah Micah Hyde being out, but let's figure they weren't supposed to beat Baltimore. They probably weren't supposed to beat Kansas City with backups back there. But um, that's that's just a lot of credit to uh Tan McDermott in their and their staff keeping those guys right. I'm with you

on the trap game. I'm worried because we found this out earlier in the show and we were looking at the lines of the first time in Aaron Rodgers career. He's a ten point or more underdog in any game that ever played in. So right in itself, I just implore the Bills if you're listening time time. Yeah, Packers in the NFC usually are one of those teams you could count on to be there. Obviously they're struggling. The Eagles have sort of taken that place on the mantel.

But when you look at the NFC, and like I said, I'm a Giants fan. I'm hyped with the six and one, but I'm still very cautious because they're playing over their heads a little bit. I don't you know what. I don't think they're playing over their heads. I really think they needed back to jump start dead team. And you can have a great running game and a kind of ben but don't break quarterback, you know. I mean they've been talking about the quarterback in New York for how

long since he's been drafted. It has been like we have to see something. I mean, who was a quarterback before Daniel Jones. Well it was Eli, and then they benched Eli for the one Geno Smith game and never gave Geno Smith a shot. And now we see what Geno Smith was playing some great football in in Seattle right now. And they they got a running game that kids that a kid had had a great game against the Chargers on Sunday. Don't sleep on the Seahawks. They

got a good coach, the defense is pretty good. I mean, you can't Gino is playing. Is he playing over his head? I don't know. I just think he's been a veteran that scene a lot, and he's he knows what he brings to a football team. So you know, big, big, big shout out to Geno. Man, I'm glad he's playing well. Well, you mentioned coaching and I have to thank all the Bills for allowing our Giants to talk to Brian Dable And now did you have any interactions with Brian Dable

is like my coach crush. I'm obsessed with that guy. He wears Jordan Threes the fiery He's a fiery guy. I had a chance to talk to him over the years in Buffalo and he'd always just say, yeah, you're like, hey, you guys are He had kind of like one word answers all the time, and I'm sure here, I'm sure he does that with his team and as a head coach, he probably doesn't have any answer. It just goes okay um.

But you know what a great offensive mind and he really did a lot for Josh Allen for three years there in in Buffalo, and I'm sure that's why the Giants hired him as a head coach. That helped this quarterback in Daniel Jones and well else they got there. So but Tae Kwon there is kind of the he's kind of the X factor him being back um is a big, big plus for that offense in there in

New York. He speaking of decision makers in the NFL, the GM Brandon Bean in his first year with Buffalo and McDermott, they make the playoffs after seventeen years, which is the last time you were there. They have the seventeen year playoff dro out. Obviously we don't have to tell you that. I'm reminding our listeners, But how do you explain how hard that is to climb out of that? Like, who really deserves the credit? Is it just Brandon Bean? Are the people behind the scenes maybe we don't know

about I think it's everybody. I think it's all the way from the top, you know, top to the bottom. You know, building a football team isn't just you can't just, you know, go to your notebook pad and just start writing names down. You gotta you gotta do your research. And it seems like a lot of head coach you used to be offensive coordinators, they used to be defensive coordinators, so they have the mindset. And then some coaches were coordinators that aren't really don't turn out to be good

head coaches. And why is that? You don't know? You do know, but you don't a lot of these guys become head coaches and they just kind of there's a lot going on. You know. As as a head coach, you have to be even more in tune to what the organization is about. But that's really what the thing

is about it. Then hiring a head coach, you gotta hire the right guy that that really is good with the players, knows what he's doing, knows how to interact with his offensive coordinator, his defensive coordinator, special teams guy that's a complete football team. When a guy can do that, the head coach can do that. So you're in Canton. As we've seen lately too, it's not easy for wide receivers to get in. But I always want to ask someone who has the Hall of Fame jackets, you'll ever

bust that thing out right? Like, do you ever like you want to throw this on? What do you ever wear that? I'm I'd be lying to you if I told you I did. No, you know what I don't. I mean Ottawa right now, I'm actually So we do things together sometimes and sometimes the people that we do things for and do speeches and all that, and a lot of things you know, my my foundation, we do a lot of stuff with Boys and Girls Club. That's my that's my foundation really, that's what we do with

Boys and Girls Club kids. And I talked to different people and if they want me to wear the jacket, I wear it. I haven't pulled up to a tea box yet and got ready to tee off and had my jacket on and asked whoever I was playing with the hold my jacket for me before tef haven't done that yet, but I might do it. You should. Honestly.

I play a lot of golf, I play in a lot of those charity but I feel like I've seen you either at like the Wallberg or the Jalen Rose that I would have totally held your Hall of Fame jacket like very bag. I said I was gonna do that. I haven't done it yet, but I have done it and been the different speeches that I've given and they have asked me to wear my jacket and I have done that. So it's a pretty good centerpiece, a pretty good conversational piece. When you're with Bruce Smith, Thurman Thomas,

you know, is it is? Do you ever talk about when you guys are playing or is it all just like how's your family or do you tell like just three friends get together and you know, seeing each other and just a good question. It's great to see those guys because you know, I live on the West coast. Thurman lives in Buffalo. Bruce brustles and Virginia, so I don't get to see those guys as much as I used to. So we laugh and we we joke and it's like we're in the locker room again, because that's

a big you know, that's the best time. The camaraderie. There was something I missed I always will miss. But it's good. Dude. We talk about a family, how your kids doing. I mean I saw their kids grow up. They saw my kids grow up. So that's really what we're all about, you know, family and knowing how each other is doing and how's our health and all that. So it's, uh, it's great to see them. And we talked about the team. Now you know, I was at two games. I was at the Tennessee game, was at

the Pittsburgh game. I was in l A for the opener. So obviously we are very very intune of what's going on with this team. And Bruce has been up in Buffalo and has talked to Brand Brandon has talked to Sean McDermott. So anytime I try to get to when I'm in Buffalo, I try to see the head coach and you know, see some of the players. So it's it's a fun times. I imagine guys who played in your time watched the wide receiver market this summer with wide eyes d Hunte Adams setting that all on fire

record deals Tyreek Kill followed soon after. What do you guys think when you see what these guys are getting? Now? You know what, man, you know what it it is. Money comes and goes. But I think what we had championships, we have a I have a Hall of Fame jacket. I would trade that money money for money. I mean, yeah, that's all good and well, but I just think that that comes and goes. And I would just because there's a lot of guys that play in this league ten

years and don't get to a playoff game. That's just the fact. And then there's a lot I played in twenty two playoff games, so I played a season and a half of playoff games almost and some of these guys just want to get to Super Bowl and want to see what that feels like. I want to see what they want to feel like. What is the playoff game? Like? There's some guys that played ten years played in one playoff game. So that's what you played the game for.

You know, if you're playing the game for money and that's your main focus, um that that's really that's part of it. But when you get with the guys, you don't talk, you know, you don't talk with some of the guys about hey man, let me see your check, Let me see your check. You can talk about, hey, who were we playing this week? And how are we gonna win this game? That's it. Well, I gotta tell you nothing but respect as a Giants fan when I was a kid, that I always look at it like that.

I feel like this is the best complement I can give you. The guys I was most afraid of what when they were coming to town to play? Were you? Randy Moss and Chris Carter? Those are the three names if you were asked me at like fifteen years old old, what receivers? What receivers scare you the most? As a fan, I'm like, I don't want andre reading the game. I don't want Chris Carter and I don't want Randy. Those are three I don't want them in the game. They terrified.

I knew, I saw you. I knew I saw you in the stands and you were you were Yeah, you were terrified. But we we can't thank you enough, appreciate, thank you enough for coming on. Have a great time. Well, I finally got the I got it right. And sometimes it's been better late than never. You never know, but it's always good good. Thanks for having me, and it's always good to talk with you guys. And hopefully next time,

you know I have all this internet stuff. Well we're hoping, since you know we're expecting the deep run by the Bills, maybe you'd come back on around playoff time. I'm already in Thank you, Jack. If you ever see me on the driving range, hand me whatever you want, I'll walk around with it on a hanger. I'll make sure it's I will dry clean it whatever you need. That would be a thrill. I got you, I got you. Yeah. Well you know what our our little thing we're doing tonight.

I could have swore these we're up here in Ottawa, that they would ask us to bring our jackets, but they didn't, so uh yeah, but I got my ring, I got my Hall of Fame. So we can't thank you enough. Thank you, and uh yeah, go bills for the rest of the year. Be fun. It'll be fun. Thank you, man, I appreciate it. Yeah. So, Jerry, where I'm at right now and entourage is it's getting really good.

Median is about to come out, and I think you guys are going to can and all that, and so I don't know if you actually make it to the cann Film Festival. I really hope you do so that I can ask you about that trip. But I put this on my Instagram story. I have texted you about it. This was as excited of a celebrity guest as I've seen on the show. Lisa Arenna. You know, I'm a big Housewives fan. I love Real Housewives and Lisa Wrenna obviously on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She's currently in

a lot of hot water. I will tell you that as well, But you've got to tell me what she was like on set and her character, which is so funny. And then the plot twist that you end up hooking up with Lisa Arena so a couple of things with that. You know, you know, you get that script before those parts are cast, right, so you're reading this stuff, you have no idea who these two women are going to be in the episode, and then you hear it's like, oh, it's Lisa Arenna and it's Colleen Camp who was one

of my favorite actors. She's one of my favorite all time movies. She was in the movie Clue back in the day. She goes back to like apocalypse now, like unbelievable. So then you you hear it's them, and it's like, oh, well, I don't want to be you know, in the episode. My character is like being a little bit of a ball breaker. I'm like, I don't want to be like mean to them. And then they come out that first scene, I think Lisa Arenna yells out like get out here,

you what, like curses out Colleen character. Yeah, it's like, okay, they came to play. I don't even think that was in the script, so it was. It was just hilarious. It was one of those episodes where you read it and you're like, anyone's gonna find this funny because we think it's funny, And yeah, that's one that that's an episode that goes along Lisa Arenna Colline Camp. They were great, they were hilarious, happy to be there, totally in on the joke and yeah, big plot twist uh in a

very small jacuzy at the end. If you really looked at Jacuz, it's like really really tiny for no reason at all. Yes, I guess that's if you think about if you keep track of the women that Turtles slept with, I think Lisa is like the first one you actually confirmed that you might have slept with. Well, what about the prostitute horehouse episode? Oh well you got me there, you got me there? Okay, you got me there. It's fresh in your mind. The thing the things that come

out of my mouth on this podcast. Now that the entrege section is a part of the show, what do I have to look forward coming up? Like what what other like big guests come on the show? You know, Okay you mentioned can and do we get there or not? All I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you a cameo. I'm not gonna tell you what happens and talk about someone in hot water. You're approaching the Kanye West episode. Wow, Kanye makes a guest, appears is a long time agoes.

It's back in two thousand seven, fresh off his song The Good Life was about to come out. So that song is heavily it kind of got released on Entourage. You're coming up on that episode, the Kanye episode. Oh geez, so this was like he's not talked about very much like Pink Polo Kanye exactly, exactly. Yeah, So you're coming up on that and the I have some fun stuff about the can stuff when you get there. Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that you guys make it.

Um No, I'm pretty good right now. You keep telling me that there may be a drop off, and I'm not sensing any of that yet. I'm not saying like drop off like oh my god, the show is so bad. It's just like I just think that when you get to a certain point, you know, with these characters, you know, we did a hundred episodes almost you do. I want to see you run out of stuff to do. But you see the Vince path, right, it's like kind of knock them down, you build them up, you know, like

how many times can you do that? So when you get there, I'm here for it, but I do think it takes a turn. I don't want to say for the worst, but just like you know, you feel it, like, man, we've done a lot with these guys. Yeah, by the way, Lisa Arena, I gotta give that lady props. I mean what that was? Oh seven, And she was supposed to be kind of an old cougar and right now she's still like top of her game. And man, that body

is no joke. Whatever she's doing is looking good. It looks like she's like running the sand dunes like Russell Westbrook in the offseason. Oh my god. Well we'll get to more next week. All right, it's time for one of my favorite parts of the show. We gotta get some Week eight wagering in, and of course not doing that alone. We're joined by bet MGM betting analyst, our odds on favorite, Peter Andrew. How you do with Peter, I'm doing good. I completely understand you're gonna be torn

a little this week. So we're gonna work around that Giant Seahawks game because I know that's gonna be a struggle for you on some day. Yeah, it's like it's it's like it's it's when Zack and Slater we're fighting over Kelly. It's like someone's gotta lose this. I can't handle it. Pete, not a bad week last week. You're barely missing on these these single game parlays. Man, it's crazy.

You have the cards money line yet. Kamara anytime t D, Kamara twenty receiving yards, Hopkins anytime t D. But anyway, I think you only lost four units or two units something like that. You had the Titans on the wind, that was great. Yeah, I lost two units because of someone's Green Bay Packers not able to squeak it out against the Commanders. It's not my fault at this point. It's not Olivia. It's definitely not your fault. We can attest to that. I'm curious to see what you have

this week. This is a tough board this week. It's an interesting board. There's a lot out there. So where is Peter Andrew's mind at going into week eight? Yeah, So we'll we'll start on Sunday here just for a second, because I've done enough betting on the Packers. I think it's time toime to start fading the Packers. So we'll start there. You know, we did pretty well with the

teaser up until that point with the pack losing. I had him plus one end of the Blues and by two, which was unfortunate because at least if we would have the one point, it would avoid it the leg out. But we're gonna do another teaser this week. We're gonna go against Packers, so I've teased down Buffalo to minus four and a half to start it off. Eagles playing

against the Steelers. The Steelers are another one of those teams that just all over the place quarterback obviously, situation between Mitch and pick It, so teasing the Eagles down to four and a half as well. So those are two very well rested teams coming off buys, so UM like both of them to win, probably win by that ten point month, but we'll be careful there. And then

Jets plus seven and a half against New England. Jets obviously have a very unfortunate injury with the breast all out for the year, which was terrible, but I think they can fill the void. I think you have Michael Carter who's kind of going to be that checkdown running back for them out of the backfield. He showed it last week, had two catches I think for forty five yards, so you can kind of do what Breece has been doing. And then you bring in James Robinson first nothing, I

think six that could become a fifth. You just gotta get him in that in that playbook. He's got a couple more days than maybe McCaffrey did last week. But I think they'll be okay. And speaking of quarterback controversies, quarterbacks that just aren't living up to the bill. Matt Jones, I know, still a little bit hurt, but him and Zappy both looked horrendous. That was weird. That was weird.

That whole situation was weird and bizarre. Look like Bill Belichick was trying to summon the ghosts of picking Tom Brady over Drew bread Bled. So it's like, man, I don't know that that was a whole That was a weird game. And I don't want to take too much credit away from the Bears, but the patch just look really all over the place. So those three, so again it's Jets plus seven and a half, Eagles minus four

and a half, Bills minus four and a half. That's plus one forty So I have five units there, so fifty to win seventy two and change, plus you're fifty steak um, So that can put us in a really nice position for next week on top of that home game for the Jags in London. So Jags minus three against another peculiar team in the Denver Broncos. A coument

score touchdown last week. That's a very nice word. There's a few other words that This is a PG thirteen is podcast, right, so we'll keep it at that sum Yeah, but I don't know who the better option is at quarterback right now for the Broncos. Could be Ripping, could be Ross. They both look terrible, but you know, Jack's had a bit of a tough fourth quarter against the Giants, but they still are somewhat of a formidable team and

they are competing. And I think, actually in a weird way, that James Robinson trade really helps Travis Aten, who's averaging something like six seven yards to carry. So given him RB one, no questions asked. He's great out of the backfield. I think he's got something like almost seven all purpose yards so far in the season. Get him as many touches as you can. It'll help obviously Trevor Lawrence, so minus three have them for four units at minus one ten um. So I really like them going into into

London again. It's it's become a home game for them. This is I think they're time plane in London, which is crazy, and a Denver team who's coming across the entire West coast into East coast, then into another time zone. I think they could be all over the place. So it's dangerous, dangerous. Nothing's more dangerous than keep an air in those those subway sandwich commercials. This is crazy. They

talk about like blowing it up in Denver. You're like, you hear like Judy's on the market, hammlers on them, like you guys just traded and paid someone like four billion dollars, You're gonna blow it up. I do like the like I do like that. But man, the in Olivia, you're there in London. I'm sorry that they're sending me in a game. Yeah. And I have a friend who works for the Broncos and we talked about it. I'm like, I'm good, I'm good. Yeah, I think you should be good.

That's like, go get brunch or samething. I would do any Sunday roast. Yeah, Sunday roast go, you know, put the game on in the background, you go to Winston Churchill's war room or something and I'm not watch Yeah, well yeah, but the great thing just about a London game is just the time. I just love having a football game on in the middle of the day instead of staying up so late to watch them. But yeah,

it's it's not one to write home about. It's one of those days where you watch English Premier League football instead of the NFL. That's fun. That is fun. O. We're here. By the way you speak of that, if the NFL had relegation, this would definitely be a relegation game. If this would have heavy relegation implications, I feel like I think this is the one situation where you say, Okay, England got this right, there should be some relegation. Get damn into the NFL, get the Broncos down into NC

double A football. I would be totally here for that. Do you have what do you have a one game parlay for us? Because you know how you are knocking on the door, so we're gonna you have taken a step We're taking a step back this week because we're so damn close to this, so I'm gonna try to put an easy one here, and let's get us back to winning a couple of units, and then we'll get a little crazy next week. So very easy. You have

an interesting game this week. Ravens at Bucks. Bucks are favorite, and I believe right now wh're's somewhere around at one point one and a half point spread. That line is very very shady to me because of a similar to the Packers, a Bucks team that just frankly does not look good. We're gonna keep spread and points kind of out of the equation here. I'm just gonna go player props. So four things. We got this for one unit plus three sixty So a ten dollar bet, when's your thirty

six bucks doll bet? Sixty bucks? So on and so forth. Mark Andrews fifty plus receiving yards. He is the target for Lamar Jackson. I think that's an easy one to hit. Um Lamar Jackson two passing t ds. They are somewhere around top six or seven in receiving efficiency, so I think they should farewell against the weird Bucks team that gave up three touchdowns to a Panther's team that has no business being in that game. Uh, Lamar over forty

one and a half rushing yards. He's just scrambled enough, right, I think you're just banking on a decent yard run to get him over that chunk. And then Mike Evans over fifty four and a half receiving yards. He is obviously the target. He should have had that plus some with that drop catch in for in the first quarter against Anther's last week. Um, So they're gonna keep going to him. He's just gotta make sure it comes down

with those balls. Um, but plus three sixty. Like I said, we're trying to take a step back here, win an easy one and then hopefully next week we get some some craziness. Hey, earlier you said that my packers were giving you a hard time. Obviously that was true. And earlier in the show, Jerry, we said if we found out the answer if Aaron Rodgers had ever been a double digit underdog in his career, we would bring it up in the Peter Andrew segment. Well, I found out

the answer. He has never been a double digit underdog in his career. The closest he's ever gotten, which is I think ten and a half he said, eleven and a half earlier, it might have gone down a bit. I bet MGM. He was an eight and a half point underdog at Seattle in that's as close as it's ever gotten. He started two thirteen regular season games, and this is the first time in all of that time

double digit underdog. So I just had to finish with that because I said at the end of the show, if we had an answer, we would bring it to the people. Do you know what that makes me think? Peter and in Olivia, I think if if we know any see, look, John Ewing has great stuff on Twitter. Peter, you bet a little bit like me, but you're much smarter with the numbers of it. But I I'm a writer, I'm a I'm an actor. I like storylines. What better

storyline would it be? Aaron Rodgers ten and a half point on the dog and he goes into Buffalo and wins the game. Out Right, that's how crazy the NFL has been. That's like a real thing that no one's

gonna bet on. And if anything is if the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have taught us anything, it's that that could absolutely happen, And that storyline wise, is probably what will happen, because it will only confuse everybody that much more than the Chiefs will become their favorites again in the a f C. Do you think that players look at this in any sport and take it personally? Did they see ten point dog and say what the hell and get more pissed off that Rogers needs more ammunition to be

angry right now? But I feel like he's going to look at that and say this is bullshit. I think it's definitely motivation. I mean, I look, what am I What do I know about playing on a professional level? Uh? I just know when you look at and when it's like confirmed publicly, you guys are supposed to lose this game confirmed, everyone believes that. Yeah, I think that's a little like, well, who gives you we're supposed to lose anyway, Let's just let it fly, let's go have fun. I

mean yeah, I mean plus three seventy five. I don't know, they're the Packers are going in the money line. Partlay for me. I can just tell you that right now. It might only be for a dollar, but they're going in a money line. I won't do much more than it's happening, all right, Well, thanks for everything, Peter, Andrew. That was a lot of fun. Good luck on your bets this weekend. I just want to remind everyone to

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