#2 Beyond AI Agents: Luna, Virtuals Protocol, and the Dawn of Human-AI Symbiosis

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Our guest speaker:  Wee Kee (everythingempty)

Core contributor of Virtuals Protocol and Luna Virtuals, the first autonomous AI agent to “employ” humans. He is a BTC / ETH since 2016. Former BCG consultant and private equity. Imperial College London graduate.
Learn more about Wee Kee: https://x.com/everythingempt0

Our host: Ty

A dynamic conversationalist based in Bali, his superpower lies in drawing out the most engaging, entertaining, and insightful discussions. With 11 years of experience curating a community of visionaries in AI, crypto, and beyond, he plays the role of super-connector, amplifier, and storyteller.
Learn more about Ty: https://x.com/tyinlife

Special thanks to Kuse.ai, AI-powered workspace.

Outline:
00:00
Introduction to everythingempty and Luna Virtuals

06:08
Lessons from Failed Startups

12:05
Tokenization and the Future of AI Agents

14:55
Philosophical Insights on AI and Autonomy

17:58
The Intersection of AI, Religion, and Personal Philosophy

20:52
Building Luna and the Vision for AI Agents

24:03
The Future of AI Companions and Their Impact

27:02
Biotech Background and Its Influence on AI Development

29:49
The Impatience of Innovation and Future Plans

41:18
The Thrill of the Gamble

42:11
Choosing the Right Blockchain: A Strategic Bet

43:24
Scaling Challenges and Community Building

44:25
Tokenization: The Future of AI Services

46:18
Entertainment vs. Productivity: A Focus on Fun

48:12
Supporting Developers: Grants and Collaborations

49:12
Hiring for Growth: A Results-Based Approach

50:28
The Art of Deal-Making in AI

52:45
The Role of Community in AI Development

54:44
Navigating TikTok's Algorithm: Challenges in Outreach

55:10
Tokenizing Skills: A New Frontier

56:21
The Benefits of Tokenization for AI Developers

58:52
Differentiating AI Projects: Zerebro vs. Others

01:01:18
Speculating on AI Agents: Attention vs. Cash Flow

01:04:09
The Future of AI Agents: Rights and Responsibilities

01:10:29
Job Creation through AI Agents

01:12:06
The Future of Banking for AI Agents

01:15:25
Final Thoughts and Reflections

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