213. Unfiltered History: Scottish Feathered Serpent Jesus???

All right, welcome back, everybody. Here we are with the lovely Heidi from the Unfiltered Rise podcast and myself, Drew missing. If you're missing the point, we're gonna have to call this little collaboration the Unfiltered point, I think because we're we're diving into some books. On this and it's not. It's not an Oprah's Book Club

over here. We're really digging into the minutia of our chosen books today and sharing with the people and hopefully we've picked some some groundbreaking information that hasn't been looked into too much by other people. So how you going, Heidi? It's been a little minute since I've seen you last time. Yeah, it's not too, too long. Of course, I can't really see Drew because he lives in the land of spiders that are like cars, so I can't go there because I'm afraid.

But yes, it's nice to be here, nice to be back. We've been planning this for a minute so that we could read our books, and I was already knee deep in this one, so it worked out well. Thank you. No problem. Well, let's start off. Maybe we can. We can tell the audience about who the author is, what the book is, the maybe a bit of background. I forgot them about the author and why we chose our chosen books and ladies first by all means. Awesome.

So this book, hopefully everybody oh that light can see it. OK. This is called the Messiah in ancient America because this is a little off the shelf banned the person got excommunicated book from the church. And so the author unfortunately, as I've said, lost his faith after this. Go figure. Every time you deep dive, but I'm bum bum, you kind of leave. And so sadly, but this Messiah in the ancient America is not who you might think it is.

That's right back in the 1960s when this guy started all his research, which is actually really in depth and and pretty good, but also doesn't jive with the DNA. The church wasn't counting on DNA. They like the family genealogy, but the DNA. So yeah, it kind of messes everything up later. So Warren Ferguson is who this is by and he says in this book that Quetzicodol is Jesus Christ, that the Mormons believe this. So they threw a lot of money at

this. They threw a lot of money for archaeology at this and it gets interesting and when I so yeah, it's. Only a hop, skip and a jump away from, you know, Abraxas the chicken snake God to a feathered serpent God. Really. That's right. That's right. But we're not waiting to delight them. What I was gonna say, weren't the the gods of the Omecs, of the Aztec and the Inca all white and delight themselves?

So aren't they just kind of buying their kind of religious belief systems air quotes into the existing ones of the the Americas and using that as a. Well, and it was supposed to support the Book of Mormon because I don't know if people

know this. So if you've never seen me before or you don't know a lot about the Book of Mormon, it is basically like they say, OK, the Bible took place over there and that's their story, right in Jerusalem and all this and well, many places, but in the Middle East. And then so this is a book in the Americas for what happened here and how they got here from over there in the Middle East and and all this whole story about it, right? And so. That's the new New Testament.

Yes, yes. And so they want it to be proven. And they used to prove it with genealogy and they they've never had one single piece of archaeology ever, not just in this book, just in general that has ever supported their claims. Because don't forget now Drew the Angel needed those plates so he had to get them back was a timeline thing. It's like a library card. It was due. He needed them back and so they went back up to heaven and all the artifacts as well.

So I I particularly like the part where all the the angels were Native American and the people that were in the Americas were turned that color because they were the bad tribes of Israel. Well, and not only that, but the angels might have been Native American, but they had been elevated into white Native Americans, so don't forget that. Who's this famous white? Native American Indian, What's the what's the name of that? Maroon Guy. Who's the senator that says she's Native American?

Do they all look like her? Oh. I don't remember that. Oh, I don't know. But this one is the one atop all of the temples. And remember, how could he be an Angel if he's a dead guy? Just have questions here. Yeah, I have some questions. And so, you know, it kind of gets them really in trouble. And I'll give away the good part of the last here.

Eventually with all of this book study and all of these like archaeology things and everything, they were going down with this whole Mesoamerican tie, which we'll get into. But eventually there's this other guy named Simon Sotherton or Sotherton. I'm not sure how he he says it. He goes bananas crazy when DNA comes out and he's like, I'm going to prove the Book of Mormon is true because he was like this whole Mormon guy and, and he's super excited about it.

And these aren't idiots like the guy that did this book. He's like a big lawyer in Oakland and all that stuff. So these aren't like completely uneducated people. I mean, idiots, who knows. But I'm just saying they're not derelict in, in knowledge, at least in some level. And so this guy, he's like, I'm going to prove it. You know, I'm going to tie all this together and the church was like, shut it down. Like, I'm not playing with you.

Shut it down because I'm assuming they knew about DNA because they're in the CIA and stuff, you know, way before it comes out. And they were like, you better stop or we're going to excommunicate you. And it becomes this huge thing because the guy was like, no. And so he's like kind of trying to prove it but also be against the Mormon church, which is weird. I don't know what was going on there. That never bodes well, right? And so he gets in trouble for

this. And remember, the people are supposed to be from the Middle East and come here, and that's the story. So what kind of blood should they be like, not type like, what kind of heritage should they like? What? What ethnic gripple if you were to go off today's. Just a generic. You would say it's like of the Lavon region? Maybe some Mediterranean esque style appearances? Right, Middle Eastern, right and your blood grouping and your DNA, all this.

Stuff should be specific. Haplo group should be a haplo group. That's the word. And so I'm like, all right, you know, this shouldn't be rocket science. And he does all this research against the church. Even though they were mad. He was like, I know that the Book of Mormon's true, and it's gonna prove everything right. They were Asian because we know that they were right. And all the whole land crossing from Siberia. Yeah.

So it really screwed the church. So in the midst of them trying to prove all this weird stuff and no archaeology, now we have a problem with DNA as well. So that was fun. He got in trouble. So I'm, I'm making a lot of connections between like Mormonism and the whole idea of the ancient America, like America's always called the new

world. And in, in recent years within like conspiratorial realms and within on a revisionist history, I'll call it, there's this big push to make America more ancient than it actually is, more ancient than what the artifacts say, more ancient than what the oral language stories

that the people say. And we get these weird insertions from say, the Levant region, but we get it through black Israelites where you get African Americans who want to rewrite their history as they were the true Israelites. They're native to North America and America was taken over from them. We get this really strange positions where people always want to have their group as the chosen people or the people that are directly in lineage to God.

It's this scrambling to, of almost trying to be better than everyone else, which seems just so counterproductive to what modern day Christianity should be like. Christ died for all our sins as long as we. You think that's the path, right? That old covenant is gone. It's out of here. That's old news. Yes, and well, and the problem with it all is this a do I think America is older than they say? Do I think it is this weird story?

Nope. I actually, you know, I've been digging into the Templars. Like we know there were Vikings up through Nova Scotia and came down like we know not just them either, right? There's native people, there's Portuguese, there's all these people that are sailing all over. Look, that's not a hard sell for me. But you know, the black Israelite thing, you know, maybe there were some people here that were native to this region. I don't know. But I don't think it's that, right?

That's something different. I think when you're talking this, the scope of history and you try to tie it back to biblical history, you're stopped with a a speed bump of the 6000 years and you've got people who are adamant 6000 years or 6000 years. But we're talking about timelines that have changed over the history of humanity. We record time differently to what they did in the past. We don't know what God's timeline is and how he records time. 6000 years to God may not be our 6000 years.

We complete, we track it completely different to what ancient cultures did, let alone a God that's created the universe. And we've got this weird insertion of ancient must mean monolithic structures, huge civilizations, flying cars, and all the trappings of an Atlantis, when ancient could just mean hundreds of thousands of years of habitation. And we get lost to, to your point, in my book, they taught, they try to make the calendars connect, right? They do this.

This is so much fun. And I have to tell you, you know, I will say this for whoever wrote this book at the end of it, it has some awesome pictures, OK. It also teaches you a lot of things that are about Mesoamerica, which is cool, you know, And there's a whole bunch of just indexed information, whether or not it fits the narrative, that's different. But that facts are the facts,

right? There's facts in this book that they're trying to pull, like into the narrative, which isn't really working too good for them. But hey, you know, you hit right on one of the points, which was they tried to mess with the calendar and say, oh, yeah, see, this is part of the reason because the calendars align and they knew about the Old Testament and this and this and this. So yeah, you're not wrong. Yeah. This, this is that that really thing that that bugs me a little bit.

And I've worked harder in reading my book than I have any other book because it's not just reading the book, it's reading the claims and where they source their claims from. Like you mentioned, they've got their facts and facts are facts. And generally the facts are black and white, but where are they sourcing them from? Can they be trusted sources? Are are are we doing the legwork of actually checking the sources

themselves? Because a lot of people, they'll read a book, say it's got an index and references, and they'll go, Oh yeah, they'll just assume the author's done their due diligence. When you're researching this type of stuff, you can't leave it to chance. I've done more work checking the sources than I have actually reading the content of this book. And this is. Where I think.

People in our people in our little world, they slip up and they slip up big when they just trust something because it's in print form. Not to say that everything's misinformation by by any means. We know that history has been rewritten. It's been toyed with, it's been played with, but at the same time we have to make sure that we're doing the right thing to make sure we're not just spurting out a psyop that was written 60 years ago to inject into our modern time. Yes, exactly.

And we know that. Look, we already know all this stuff. Like we know Columbus wasn't the first. Like they've even stopped doing the day. Like, let's be realistic here. We're not saying that we don't believe some of it, right? But it's always too, Tristan, a lie. It's always. Yeah. And they'll feel it with facts. Oh yeah. Yeah, you put 1 little mistruth in there and that's where the the weed starts to grow. Oh yeah. So I don't know if you want me to go in to this or if you want

to introduce your book first. Maybe better that way. Which way do you want to do? Well, I might add mine in because I think mine ties in yours a little bit. Oh fun. I've chosen Commons Beaumont. Oh, that up there written the key to world history. This isn't really the first book you should dive into him with his content. He's got a lot before this. Commons Beaumont interesting little character.

And I came at this from the lens of, like I mentioned, for every single group, every culture around the world seems to have their own stories. And we see those common trends every time we listen to a story. The biggest aspects of that story tend to be the moral story behind it, the moral compass, why you should live as a good person, why we do things. The smaller details like names, objects, locations, they can change over time, but the underlying message tends to stay

the same. That's why as conspiracy theorists or revisionist historians, they make connections between these stories that are that have separated by hundreds of years or thousands of years and oceans because it's the same underlying story over there. Like I say, here's an example for you. Heidi, Jack and the Bean stalk could easily be rewritten as Heidi and the gigantic corn stalk where it involves a network. Hey, Corn is in my story.

It takes place in Utah and the the the little dialectic of it that you have to remember. The little narrative is beefy foe fum. I smelled the blood of an exmo mum. Hey, the story is good one the. Story is practically the same. It's just a few little details that have changed. The underlying moral of you going out, getting some wealth for your family, coming down and slaying the monster, that remains the same. The details can change, but ultimately it's the exact same

story. And we see that through every continent, every culture, every syllableization. For my reasoning, I think it's a shared collective memory of something happening. So the details, they they've been adjusted. The story at its core is the same. I think history tends to lend itself through this, through mythology and culture.

We see these incidents entails they pop up again and again, and I tend to think it's all coming back from one momentous cataclysmic event, whether that was God flooding the Earth or if you're a a interstellar body person, it could be an asteroid hitting the earth and ending with the younger driest. All these things can be at the center of the same event and I think we're just looking at it from different angles, so.

Absolutely. The the big contentious issue with all of this is though, is when does the location actually matter? And the location actually matters in these situations. It's crucial when you have a chosen people linked to a specific geographical area. And I kind of allude to this before where there's this scrambling of a few little out there fringe groups would really trying to make it that they're the true chosen people. Like it matters. That's the old government.

It really doesn't matter now. But people are still scrambling and going down the route of my ethnic groups better than your group because we were chosen by God and my skin colour is better. All this stuff is wasted now, yet we're still fighting over it as a people, which is very, very

strange. So when we tie in these amplified ideas of storytelling, when it links back to the Bible and the origins of the Hebrews and the Black Israelite movement, the Old World, America, the list goes on with all these people that are coming to it. Commons Beaumont takes it in a slightly different direction. He'd links it back to Britain as being the region where the geographical people come from. So he links the idea of. The are they white and delight some too well.

They'd be Anglo, They're always trying Germanic people, so they're always trying. So not trying to go a confirmation bias on this just because I'm a white guy, but I've never really heard of it from this perspective before outside of Box Saga. And Box Saga is very rich and compelling when it comes to linguistic analysis. So I thought this was quite interesting in how this gentleman came to this conclusion. So I've got to give you a bit of background on this guy first.

Yours is from what? From what? The 70s, correct? Yes, this guy's I think 19871987 but he started started stuff in the 60s this recently. Cool, cool. This goes back way further. So Commons. Beaumont, colorfully known as The Rebel in Fleet Street, was a British author, lecturer, editor and journalist at the Daily Mail. Born in 1873, died in 1955. He was a man from a very different time, a time when academia had a very different perspective on the oranges of European culture.

But that all changed and I think we know that the world changing event that caused that. A little mustache man from Austria who liked to paint. Oh yeah, he loved his niece. Yeah, his use of a certain term changed historical academia forever, and I think we know that word is Aryan. Aryan now is conflated with ethnocentrism and and racism and all the the horrible trappings of humanity.

But it's an actual name that was given to prehistoric men of Europe, men and women of Europe. It's they call them proto Europeans now for the PC term. And he kind of tracks the the Aryan peoples and how they apply to later stories that come along. And he proposes that these later stories are just recalling the same event, and they're transcribing the locations and names to regional areas to suit their people. And he leans heavily on Greek

culture for this. At his time in the early 30s, Nineteen 40s, Greek culture, the Greco Roman was still seen as the pinnacle of civilization for the West. So he does talk about that quite a bit. So it's quite intriguing, intriguing. He published a series of books between 1932 and 1949, including titles such as The Mysterious Comet, The Riddle of Prehistoric Britain, The Great Deception, and the book that I'm going to

talk to you about today. Here's some of his more extraordinary claims there, and I like to get your thoughts on these. Of Nazareth was crucified outside Edinburgh, Scotland, the site of ancient Jerusalem. So the Scots of the the Scots of the Jews. Yay for us. I mean, hey, I'm Irish and Scottish. There we go. Satan Satan was a comet that collided with Earth and caused Noah's flood. How fun. The ancient Egyptians were in fact Irishmen. Hal can be found in western Scotland.

Well, there's a few places in Scotland that wouldn't want to go without some protection. It's a pretty rough place. The Greek hero Achille spent his child in the Isle of Skye, Galilee. The birth place of Jesus was Wales and ancient Athens is in reality Bath, England. Oh boy, I I dare say I think the Mormons knew about this one. Yikes. So again, we've got another,

it's a different perspective. Again, we've got someone from Anglo, Celtic, Germanic, Northern European perspective claiming that potentially those are the true chosen people. And I only, I only bring this to our attention because it does matter in the sense of geographics with a new covenant, it doesn't really matter. But at the same time, we've got whole swaths of people around the world who are pushing their supremacy on the world based on their perceived genealogy.

And if that could be disproven, it makes things very uncomfortable for the world. And I'm not saying. It goes either way. This book was just an interesting perspective to have a look at and consider a few possibilities. Wow OK so was this Jesus redheaded? Is this the one that I'm thinking of? I've I've heard something about a redheaded Jesus. I can't remember the story. OK, well, that would make sense for a few things that I know of,

but that's that's weird. It sounds like he definitely what what proof does he have of any of this stuff? Like is he just pulling this out of his He's nowhere. He's. Actually referencing a lot of works of academia at the time. Now the problem with academia at that time, there's been new discoveries since the 1930s and 40s. People have gone through the linguistical drifts of stories and have kind of redirected them

to other parts of the world. So I think for the most part he's trying to source himself well enough. I haven't been able to get a hold of some of these sources because they're not available on the Internet. I'd actually have to go to Britain's and search through some libraries to get them. For the most part he's trying his hardest to retell the cataclysm of Noah and Atlantis being the same event, which I don't think he's wrong in that location could be very different.

I think this is more so a worldwide situation opposed to a geographically located event. In the Bible it tells us the world was flooded, but was it the world of the region that was flooded as opposed to the world itself? If you look at events that we now know of, like the end of the younger driest period in which a comet impacted mile highs, ice sheets in North America flash flooding most of the world's

coastline. That if you're a scientifically minded person, which I am also, I don't throw the baby out the bathwater. That could make sense for the flood. And I, I, this is the thing that becomes really hard for me as someone who's who's been an academic and is very intrigued by the historical context of this, is that science is the mechanism for understanding

God's creation. I think we have to use that in line with Bible and Scripture. And if the Scripture backs it up, not the other way around, then it works. We don't take a piece of science, science data and then go to the Bible. You have to go to the Bible. OK, let's look at the world and let's look for that evidence. And I think there's aspects of Younger Dryas which actually aligned with that really well. So what is he inclined to on his religion? Does he have a anything?

Is he biased? I think he's more of a he would come across as someone who is agnostic at best. I think he he could very quickly go into the realm of Gnosticism because that's. What I was? Wondering, searching for all the lost information, finding the sources, which is a dangerous place to be at best. I hope he's he was agnostic in this.

He does try to rename, reposition a lot of biblical locations, but ultimately his main hypothesis of these viewpoints is that the Greeks of the time he talks about were limited by their geographical location in the world. That was simply applying older stories that they'd heard and had passed down orally to their regional area. They were renaming places, renaming people. So it fits their own culture and their time.

And it takes into account the movement of northern European tribes, the Aryans, as we've discussed earlier, from far north down into the Mediterranean, as opposed to the Fertile Crescent out into the West, the rest of the world, which aligns with what we're seeing in Agri architecture and

agricultural growth. It actually came from the steppe region, then spread out and didn't start in the virtual Crescent. So there's parts of history which are coming to the forefront now, which are backing up some of his original conclusions. Where does his research really take him? So here's some links and a few dot points that I've kind of been looking at that just alarmed me that Atlantis in a particular Finnish root language, which is connected to

Box Saga, means all land ice. And if you're coming from an area in the world which either was wiped out from a flood in the Great North or flash froze in the Great North, you'd be forced to go South, you'd be forced to go for warmer areas and you'd be forced to invade people. I think that's the part of history we've always been told the Vikings just raping and pillaging and going home. They didn't do that in reality. They went to England, they went to France, and they set up colonies.

They didn't go home all that often for a reason. It's almost as if the lands they came from were becoming less hospitable every day, and they knew it. They were driven by sheer necessity. And this kind of drives this story that he's telling, that the Greeks were just regurgitating something that their ancestors had passed on to them orally before any kind of recorded written word was put down. Wow. This gets interesting.

This gets interesting. I think since we're deep in it, we should just keep going with yours 'cause it, it's, it's hot. It's it's going down that line, yeah. I have a full word that I'd like to read. It's a tad long, but I think it's worth it. I've actually mentioned to you outside of the show that I'll probably end up recording each of these chapters and putting it out on my show and then maybe giving my thoughts on it at the

end. Like I said, not to be focused on he's right or he's wrong, It's just good, something that's good to consider and take on board because we're hearing all these theories all the time and we don't want theories to influence the actual belief systems. Our belief systems should impact the way we're looking at theories. We should be able to go straight

away. No, that's garbage because I know from this aspect and in scripture that is backed up by this historical account, whereas what you've given me is revisionist history. And as they have a click bait, we see it far too often. But being aware of it, just like the occult, it's good to know the enemy's tools so you don't fall for it. All right, This is the forward.

This volume is a companion to the work of the Riddle of a Prehistoric Britain, in which I endeavoured to prove by evidence gathered over wide field from ancient modern sources, the British Isles were heavily civilized from the earliest times. And indeed that Britain may be proudly enthroned as the true and original mother of civilization, I claimed on evidence produced that it supposedly lost this lost island or drowned island continent.

Given the name Atlantis by Plato was not a mere romance or myth without substance as is generally believed, but On the contrary is the serious epitome of the most stupendous natural catastrophe which has ever affected the human race, both because of the magnitude and the severity of the visitation. I sought, moreover, to prove that the Atlantean calamity was a variation, in other words, of the flood of Noah or the Greeks

termed it the deluge. Now he's already starting to use some terms that we would recognize as being very Gnostic, but he's tying in some historical accounts that I think at best for people like us could prove that the pre deluge Adamites and you know, the world that was before the flood. Like if these people had conquered the world and had a great amount of culture and civilization, kind of lends itself to think that maybe their leaders were Nephilim or

Nephilim hybrids. For this purpose, evidence was derived from geographical, geological, astronomical, historical and legendary sources to the effect that this magic catastrophe afflicted Northern and Western Europe, mainly the Scandinavian lands and beyond all the British islands.

I claimed, in fact, that Atlantis Island was no other than the British Isles itself, which bear the scars of that catastrophe to this day, that Atlantis was not permanently submerged, or even much of it, tremendous though the ultimate

effects were. These islands I showed were the true Hebades or Happy Islands of yore and are known to have been inhabited from the earliest Paleolithic or Old Stone Age onwards, and were the original domicile, the sons of Adam who were the Titans or giants of classic fame, as well as being Atlanteans of Plato. So he's already. Positioning at that. There's seed war stuff, but from the other side that Adam's sons were the Nephilim giants.

So we get into all these dialectical issues, but it's just, it's so interesting. And I, I think it's interesting because a lot of people take this stuff on board as gospel because it's in a book. But like, like we discussed, there's one lie amongst all the truths. If the history and the demographic movements and the people moving around the planet are true, then there's a truth in maybe the dark side of things that, that they really existed.

And I think that's the probably the conversation that people need to start having is where is the truth and where is the lie. And why and why is the lie? Exactly. Yes. I'll keep going. My object, may I point out, was far greater than any mere academic effort, as some critics seem to imagine, to identify Atlantis. The disaster of Atlantis was only indirectly my theme. For the matters in this may lie which still lie beyond these facts. As facts are claimed, they are on the evidence.

For it were the flood of the Scriptures. It thereby brings us into the Northern European continent, Europe, the nations related to the event directly or indirectly such as the Chaldeans, Egyptians, Israelites, Helene's

and Greeks and many others. It cannot be isolated as such, for it challenges the long accepted beliefs and dogma of the flood occurred in the Middle East and supposedly original Chaldea, as to which incidentally, in spite of most careful investigations even within the recent years, these exist not a title of solid geographical or geological other evidence to support such a calamity in those regions alone.

Also it corrects and must correct and I must understand and underestimate and estimate the long accepted claims in relation to the lands we term Assyria, Egypt, Palestine, and I fear necessarily disputes the accuracy of the modernist interpretations from inscribed stones to papyrus. In other words, we have been misled by these matters. My sole aim is to get the truth regarding the past as it bears in many striking ways upon the present.

But let me say, if the further claims I advanced in this work are sustained, it must logically signify that the segregation of the Bible history as a thing apart from equivalent classic peoples, has piled up completely false conceptions and valuations regarding the history in nations of the past times.

For example, I produce evidence to show that the Uranids of Crete, which Crete was accepted by the Greeks, Greeks at least, or the motherland of the original race of mankind, were the equivalent to the people of ER or the Chaldeys, the book of the Genesis. And they dwells not in the Orient or Mediterranean, but in the British Isles.

So he goes on and on to to reclassify areas as being British. And he does a really good job at following the linguistical path that goes from say the Mediterranean through into Central Europe into Northern Europe. He follows that path of linguistics really well. And my take away from this is that the linguistical path is probably real, that people probably did start off in the northern hemisphere and start

their cultures. But I don't think it was necessarily the tribe of Adam, more along the lines of maybe it was the principalities and the kingdoms of the Nephilim at the time that they had started. And that brings us to another contentious issue. When you start talking about tribes and who's the chosen, you quickly put everyone else into the outer. And I think we that's why I have to reemphasize that the new covenant dismisses all that and it really doesn't matter. Yes, Yep.

We're all supposed to be the same now. But the yeah, it's still, it's still such a I'm the chosen. No, I'm the chosen and this and that and and, you know, I don't know if you know this, but Mormon's still. So we get this thing called the patriarchal blessing when we're like between 14 and 18 and they tell us what tribe we're from. It's all baloney. It's just by divination. They literally anoint you with oil and give you this blessing by the patriarch. And he's the, he's like a

prophet of, of the church. He, he does this, these patriotic blessings is like, that's his only job. And so, you know, they put their hands on your head and they record the whole thing and they type it up for you. And it's all the blessings if you do what you're supposed to and live all the right ways and blah, blah, blah. But they tell you what tribe you're from.

So like me, I'm the tribe of Ephraim, so that's, you know, Mary Magdalene. And then Joseph Smith was the tribe of both Ephraim and Manasseh, making him the perfect specimen of Jesus. In Mermaid of course gave himself the best faces. Ragsdeus Yeah. All right. So still like I'm saying, but look at all the importance they put on that. That's like a big deal. I mean, and why? They emphasize that type of stuff, but they they try to detract people from looking at the cultural and linguistic

growth over time. Like we look at modern day nations and then name has a root name for a reason. Modern day Palestine is named that because of the Philistines. We have Denmark, the Denmark, the tribe of Dan. We've got all these tribes that are represented throughout the world by their name and we can see it's particularly the Denmark, there's rivers and there's locations leading all the way to Denmark that mean the tribe of Dan. It's just linguistically different per region.

It has the same meaning. So we can track a growth of a tribe or a people quite easily. But it's it's quite interesting that we've got religions or organized religions rather that are trying to pigeonhole people into being the better, being the greater, so that there's some kind of authority over over others, which is it's completely in the face of what crisis tried to teach us. Yep. I mean, isn't it always though? Like this gets us into a lot of trouble throughout always, right?

But this is yeah, Yep. So I'm bringing in some more things, you know, it's just my, my notes are from reading this, so I'm not actually regurgitating all the books for your listeners because it's going to be a bit dry. It is older English, even though it was only from the 30's. The way in which he wrote and spoke, he's a very academic, well educated Brit sorry for the majority of Americans. So it's stuffy. Not, yeah, not to typecast you

guys. I don't think you're going to go out and get the nuance from reading this verbatim, so I'll just give you some some of the dot points in this. The gods in Pagan Europe are often referred to as coming from where the north winds come. The north winds, we've got all the places of which gods reside on mountains and N winds come from there. The winds and the mountains are the strongest. Well, where do the north winds come from? In Europe?

They blow down from Scandinavia. If you've got a people who were technologically more advanced than their neighbors at the time and they came S because they were driven out by, say, God's wrath and they had to conquer new lands to survive, they would appear as gods to less advanced people. Or we've got, like I mentioned, the younger driest impact, potentially flooding coastlines and low lands of the world that were inhabited by people. We've got this as these low

lands that have been wiped out. The majority of the knowledge and the culture that and the accomplishments of these people is gone. But we've also got an historical account that's backed up by modern academia called Dogaland. Have you've heard of this place before? Dogal and stretched across the region between what is now known as East Coast, Britain Island, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany and the Danish peninsula of Jute land. I wonder what that land was named after?

Jute Land? That was 10,000 years ago, 10 to 7000 years ago. We know that a lot of cataclysms happened 10,000 years ago worldwide. For whatever reason, megafauna in Australia died off at that time. They were all wiped out. Couldn't have just been the aboriginals in their hungry bellies. They were wiped out by climate change, as academia would want us to believe. But there was this mass destruction worldwide that wiped out peoples and animals. Sea levels rose.

He's nailing a lot of the science really well, which is great because we can use that. We can take that to the bank when it comes to scripture. It's where he tries to tie in the more gnostic belief systems, I think, tries to steer us off our path. So like, for example, the historical counts of northern tribes coming down South, not to raid, pillage or plunder, but to establish colonies, new homes happened twice throughout recorded history. The modern one we know of is Vikings.

It's in popular culture. We imagine the long ships and the horned helmets, which aren't accurate at all by the way, coming in, raping and pillaging, taking what they want and going back home. That to go a Viking meant was like a wanderlust. You wanted to leave your home to find something better. And if your home is frozen and destroyed, you have to find something better.

That was the later accounts. Earlier accounts of the exact same people genetically are the Goths, the Visigoths, the Angles, the Saxons. They both came from northern Germany, southern Denmark, and they went to England as well. So there could have been two successive waves of these people going into a new land to survive. So he's got this history to back it up. And then you look at the way that the climates of the north

have changed. At one time, it'd be very hard to believe they had wine vineyards in Scandinavia. So they brought back grapes with them and grew vine vines of wine convenience that were there. Today, you can't do that. The people that went to people who went to Iceland and tried to set colonies there, they lived there and Greenland very well for a long time until they were driven out because of an ice flow. So there's some big events.

Things got very cold very quickly and they were forced to leave. And when you take into account the idea of when hell freezes over and you think of some of the games of the places like Helsinki, Helsinki's cold a lot. Well, that's that's just funny. I'm sorry I interrupt. I was like, Oh well. And then you've got these ideas of the mammoths that died out, They're flash frozen, they've got vegetation in their mouth that's more akin to tropical

regions. So the regions of northern Europe have over time become more pine like. And at one point we're probably quite habitable for most life forms. Humans, animals, they could thrive there. It was a very sudden shift in climate. And this kind of lends to the people who believe it was a impact fire, a comet that should

cause that to happen. Maybe it's the poles reversing, or it's the drift of the northern poles, who knows, But there's something has happened and he's trying his best in this book to try and link it to regional changes and more of a gnostic spin, which is a bit spooky for people who would read this as gospel and not look further. Well, and how many people do that? How many even read read well anyway?

Yeah, I think, you know, someone within our realm of influence could pick this up who aren't too well versed and they could read this and they can do an entire series on this alone and it would get lots of clicks and become really famous. They'd probably end up on all sorts of big name shows and it would get a lot of reach. But they haven't done the due diligence. And I think that's what I've tried to do. I'm pulling out the the gems

amongst it all. But I think he's probably 100% on the science, 100% on the cultural drift. I think maybe the locations could be exaggerated a little bit. How about yours when it comes to just a little bit? How about yours though? Like ancient America with the black and delight gods that influence the. Best of Americans. He actually talks to that too. He refers to the Americas as being a colony for the Aryans who ultimately failed in the New Worlds. So there's the link right there.

Well, you know, so one of the things that they're trying to prove with this whole situation is that Jesus, you know, when he he was missing, right? For those couple days that he came here to America, to Mesoamerica and that that. I think, you know, I think he could fly if he was the white serpent God. Doesn't he have wings? I don't know. But this is their backing for it, right? Like any little thing that they pick in here, they're like, oh, but look, it's because blah.

Oh, but look, it's because this. And then every single time they do it, they're like, oops, look now, don't look now because the DNA doesn't align right. Like all these things, they're constantly having to go backward. But ultimately, this is all about, you know, for me, this is a great book on a lot of things that are true, like you said, like so much information about these gods and like all different things. And he gives really good

archaeological stuff on that. That doesn't mean that's not true, but trying to connect the dots to make it work, to give some credence to the Book of Mormon, because we know that there's not one single piece of archaeological evidence. And that's what they're constantly fighting about. You know, we have the hill Kimura and and the church owns it now. And so people have often said, dig it up. You know, Moroni, the Angel said they had these great big battles here, bigger than any other

battle. All these people died. Everybody died. So where's the bodies, you know? So dig it up, Right. Well, they're not going to dig it up. First of all, it's a sacred mound. But second of all, just to make sure it doesn't ever have that happen, they planted a bunch of trees. So they're like, we can't, we can't disturb the we, they're sacred. Actually, they are sacred trees. They're called witness trees because they witnessed Joseph Smith talking to God.

So we can't do that. And even if one falls over, Drew, we can't move it or do anything with it. It just has to. Peacefully. Right. They can't. You know how many people would pay a lot of money for that tree? I even looked that up. Speaking of vetting things, I'm like, wonder if you could buy 1, You know, like a a dead tree. A Nope, not even a dead tree. But don't. Get a rocking chair made out of a witness tree. Well, and they won't even. They. Won't even confirm right.

They won't even. And if you get into weird stuff like the whole thing, this is off topic, Speaking of books, but I've got an episode coming up with the Golden Bough. OK, the golden the Golden Bough talks about tree worship and all this stuff. And and I was like, this is really new on some Book of Mormon stuff here. I think he read the Golden Bough. But like, they won't even confirm what kind of trees because I was trying to do studying on it. Right? Are the witness trees?

But no, no, we mustn't know that. So it's just constant with this, like you're just going to pull stuff out of the air then and make a book about it to try and see how it will stick. Like that's how it feels.

It's probably really good cherry picking from these people and it, like you said, if you've got all the truths lined up and it's building a picture and you're starting to see what it is, you can quite easily force bits and pieces from another puzzle set into it and make it kind of work. And I. And don't, don't forget, he drops. He's a name dropper of all the, like, famousy people. Like the Marriotts. Sounds familiar. Yeah. Like those Marriotts. Yeah, like the hotel ones.

They're Mormons. And so, you know, he does a lot of name dropping here. Oh, you know, I don't know if he's trying to just make them extra, more important because they're already important, right. They're the right tribe and all that stuff, like it. Just elitism. Does he defer to what if isms when he's his position isn't as strong as it could be?

Like if he doesn't have the backup of the academia, the the history, the biblical sources he throws in a what if he's an example would be, I know from the Americas that say that battle occurred. There's this massive battle or say battles between giants and Native Americans. Well, we can't find the bones of the giants because the Smithsonian has all of them. So we've got no evidence. But I, I'm telling you, the Smithsonian has those bones. Well, we have to take a few words.

Yeah, there was some things that actually did end up in the Smithsonian and somehow there was a fire. So, Drew, it's like you read my mind. But that, yeah, he what he likes to do is say things and tie him into exactly what yours is. Like this cataclysm happened, that cataclysm happened, blah, blah, blah. And I can get into it when we do it. Like, I'll tell you what, what's what. But he definitely includes like all these things to like, oh, look, this is it, much like yours.

So yeah, that people will believe it. This guy, he made this book and literally unbelieved himself because he quit believing over it. So if. That's, I don't know, at least he did something for himself in the end. That's the effect of Mormonism, isn't it? That you go one of two paths. You either become steadfast on finding God and you find Jesus. Amen. That has to happen. Or you go completely. You know, all religions is a sham. And I'm like once burned, twice shy.

Most of them do that, and that's why I speak out so much. People constantly are saying to me, why don't you just leave it alone? You left Mormonism, now leave it alone. And I'm like, because are you the type of person if you're on the lifeboat and there's room that doesn't go back for more people? I'm not. I'm going to go back like, what there you can help people, but so many people wouldn't. So half of those boats from the Titanic were empty, so.

Not to to search the man who wrote this because he's done a fantastic job of combining it all, but I have a gut feeling that this type of work was put out long ago. Knowing that the plan moving forward after 70 odd years was that these types of ideas would be implanted and people would have a thirst for wanting to know the truth and the real origins of certain things. And it would make people more pliable to become Gnostic Christians or Gnostics in

general. Like the idea of like the real psyop is that the majority of conspiracy theories have been faked the whole time and they've been planted into the subconscious of of humanity. Say that we talk about it and form our little communities so that we're more malleable later on. Absolutely. Well, I mean, they've been doing this a long time. And also another one of his fun little name drops is Romney.

That's right. B Romney, his dad, Marion G Romney and Ezra Taft Benson. So, you know, I mean, do I trust all this stuff? Probably not. He's an attorney. Those people are bought in like, let's do well. So, yeah, you know, and you know why he mentions Romney's is because they have a settlement in Chihuahua, Mexico, that I'm going to be doing an episode on very soon. Those are some really crazy Mormons, like killing each other Mormons.

So yeah, so there's that. Does does he allude to anywhere in that book? Because I would assume that this author would have been taking his time to write that book. Is there a feeling as you're reading it that he's starting to lose his faith as he's? Wrong. He never. Yeah, he never did the book. It actually had to be compiled later, at a later time. So interesting. You say that? Yeah, 5 of this guy. 'S books was. Compiled after he died. Oh wow, maybe they knew each

other well. Isn't it just interesting that someone has to compile the works for the person because one, they never put it out themselves, and two, it's easier to make a pretty good influence on certain communities later on if these books were compiled. And if it's compiled for someone else, did they have the intention of having all that information? Were there things they decided were wrong and not supposed to be in there anymore?

If you're just going through someone's notes from their office, you're just putting out things as you find them right or you intend. Well, and what if they're just like if he had a faith crisis in the middle, which clearly he did, would you that's kind of against what he's going through. Like honestly, it you wouldn't want to throw them away because you're like, I spent all this time and research and energy and blah, blah, blah. But then also it's not really

ethical to put something out. I don't feel after somebody's death where they can't say that's OK because the last page might be and all of this is bullshit and I don't like it anymore. The end. They don't have the ability to defend their position either. You're not around for your works. You can't clarify things, you can't reassert maybe preconceived notions that you had or change things as you would have. You're putting things out as you

wrote them at the time. It's like a snapshot in time of your beliefs at that time and doesn't take into account what you thought before your death. And that's the sad thing. I think when we see a lot of authors that are still alive, we do find they go back and they read, rework their works. They have different editions that come out there, revise things, and you can track that with these types of people. When you've got works that are put out on their behalf, you

don't have that opportunity. Yes, and I mean honestly, if he wanted to do it, he would have done it. And having a faith crisis in the middle, he clearly didn't feel the same. So yeah, for his, I feel like it's unethical in general, so. Yeah. It is what it is, it's out there, but it did get on the no no list so well. Because for the Mormon church. Yeah, they, they don't want this going around anymore because then people are going to be like, oh, well, what about this?

And then it, and then it's like, OK, all these people are Middle Eastern. Oops, no they're not. It's funny that you mentioned that. You mentioned the haplo roof thing before.

I saw a paper that came out and it was reasserting that the haplogroup data from the Human Genome Project was inaccurate and there was no bearing, say, straight transition of of Inuit or Eskimos type peoples from the steppes or Asia into North America. They're reasserting that the DNA found within North American Indians were from the Levant region. I thought, oh, this is weird. It took three clicks to find it lent back to the Mormon.

Church, of course, Of course. Well, probably from this book. What do we do? What do we do? Yeah, who knows? But yeah, it gets it gets interesting. What's your your biggest take away from it? Was it that it drove this guy to lose his faith? Or was it that there's the truth in amongst the lies? What's what's your gut feeling of reading? It, I will say this, look, it was a, it was a pretty interesting read. He's got pictures. He's got all these ancient

sites, like I like history. So this was good, you know, and he's got a lot of connections and different things. He's got the story of Quetzalcoatl, which, you know, I was looking which paragraph I, I could read. I didn't think about doing that. But you know, and he goes over a lot of things like sacred mountain reasons and altars. And so in this, you know, he does lay out a lot of interesting things just because they don't fit what he

originally had as a hypothesis. Like I think if he would have kept it as a question and been like, maybe this right, instead of this is blah, this would have been better like a thesis paper. But nevertheless, here we are and it's a published book and now they can't get rid of it. But like I said, it wasn't even supposed to be put out in the first place. So like I always question like, was this the narrative? Is this like a plan? Was this the plan to lead them

here? I I just don't ever know with the church because they've done so much shady stuff. But As for the actual history in it, it is really interesting, you know, And yes, the guy had a faith crisis, but during this actual book, it doesn't seem that way, right? Because he's all in and you just only know that if you look it up. I don't know that you would know that if you didn't know that. But I knew already, so, which is sad, because what happens then can lead people astray still,

right? What person is going to know that isn't Mormon? I knew about Southerton because I knew about the DNA thing, because I knew he got excommunicated for it. But if you didn't know that it has nothing to do with this book. Would you go and look it up? Like, would you or would you believe this narrative just on words alone? Yeah, it's a there's a difference between researchers and apathy of readers. And, you know, we're all, we're all time poor. We get that.

But when you've got big claims require big evidence and you can't just say here's my reference without actually looking at the reference, especially if it's something as groundbreaking as ancient America was, a place where the truth and relax were, or it was Britain where Atlantis was. These are big massive claims that require big evidence which they try to give their evidence. But like you said, it's is it the truth or is it a lie? Well, and the fact that, you

know, there's names dropped. He also was the founder of the New World Archaeological Foundation, which benefited from the church's money multiple times. 15,000 in 1953, that was a lot back then. And 200,000 between 1955 to 59. That's a lot of money. This is all church money, you know, So it just, it's just like, at what point is it so yucky that it doesn't matter anymore, right? Like, I don't know, I don't know, is this your narrative because you wanted to open that society?

Is this your narrative because you want to go to Mexico a bunch? I don't know, like I don't know what you're doing with that right? But it sure is a hard take when I mean they're like, OK, so basically they're saying, you know, because, you know, Jesus came to the Americas. We have this proof because this the timeline adds up and he was a fair God and Quetzicodel just happens. This this whole thing just happens to be when that was and the timelines align.

Like that's good enough or like I'm not saying Quetzicottle isn't on things. I'm not saying that that's not real, but like that's a stretch. I just, yeah, I don't know, I don't think that again, like I said, there were other things like this. He he does talk about codices and stone carvings and all of the, you know, oh, it had their feet inside, you know, hands pierced on the crucified figure. So it had to have been this like, why did it had to have been that? Like maybe one guy made it

there. Like we don't, we just don't know, right? Like it could be anything. I'm not saying maybe a guy had a dream about it. Maybe we've seen prophecies in the Bible, like maybe that, like, I don't know what happened, but certainly it seems like a really weird stretch to start linking this to 3rd Nephi eight through 10 when they're talking about the earthquakes and the days of darkness and volcano eruptions. And then they're like, oh, oh, oh, wait, we had that too.

Then this, this happened too, you know? And so I'm like, well, I mean, yeah, OK, great. But also, these things happen all the time. Like you could go pick a day out of the calendar and look and see, was there an earthquake that day? Was it a big deal? Was it this like it's? Cherry picking information to see the narrative a lot of the time. Like I could look at I could look at the time of the Justinian plague in which a super volcano went off at that time in the world.

It sent so much particulars up into the sky for like a year or more straight. It was like a perpetual, like a sun was barely around. Lots of plants died. They didn't had lots of losses of food. Clearly pestilence grew up from that disease, which was the Justinian plague apparently. I can say that that was aspects of of the Bible because it links to certain events. But that would be cherry picking because I don't know, it's a bit of a what if ISM. Right.

And they did specifically link, you know, real things that really happened. I'm going to try and say these words, the Izapa and Camino eruptions, OK, of these volcanoes, like they talk about the sunken cities and, and oh, it's got to be it because it's in, it's in the Book of Mormon. And this is the one. But like they don't know that. Like there's, there's not a sign that says like this is the one.

Like they are giving tons of information that is absolutely real, but it's just such a stretch. I, I, I I don't know. The stretching sides of things. I'm reading my book and then listening to yours. It reminds me of something that's going around quite popular at the moment, and that's little season slash tartaria. Like the amount of videos that I've seen where people show images of what I can would consider pareidolia, which is the human ability to see faces

of familiar objects in nature. So this is a frozen Nephilim look. Yeah. OK, I'll go there. It could be. It also just looks like a rock. And then there's oh, this, this is, this is a sign of melting. No, that's erosion over possibly 10s of thousands of years. Or this is a doorway cutting to the side of a mountain. I can see the crack lines where there's been an earthquake and it's fallen. There's a lot of stretching to push a narrative at the moment.

And it really just distracts us from the work that we should be doing if we're leaving it literally in the past, trying to prove Old Testament bloodlines and prove seed war prove chosen people. It takes away from the work the crisis is crisis got us to do in the in the now. And the problem of OK my people, the chosen people instantly puts you into an authoritarian position where you're better

than everyone else. The definition of racism on the other side, the serpent seed, well, these people are serpent seed literally belittles people till they're not human. What do you think is going to come out of those two situations, especially if you had a weaponized control of Christianity, where there's Christian nationalism and the majority of people went chose, we're chosen. These people are Satan's serpent seed. We're now justified in wiping them off the face of the planet.

No, not very new covenant at all. No, no. And when we look at this stuff, you know, like this, this is part of of what they're talking about. OK. When Cortez landed on the East Coast of Mexico in 1519, the inhabitants of the land thought he was their benevolent personal God, Quetzicodal, who had appeared to their ancestors centuries before Columbus and had promised to return. Like Cortez Quetzicodal had been bearded and white skinned and he

was associated with the cross. OK, so that that's fine. You want to talk about that? But also it could be 100 other things like you're guessing and we don't even have a picture of any of these people, right? And I'm like, Cortez doesn't sound like he would have had a white beard, but whatever. If you want to say that, that's fine.

You know? And at the end of the day, I think it's important with bloodlines to study them for the fact to know what the elites are doing so we can understand what they're doing. But definitely we should never be buying into this crap. Not at all, because we're then we're kind of falling for their belief systems as opposed to our own. The amount of people that go down the rabbit hole of occultism to better understand the enemy that get lost down there and can't find the way.

I think it's really big within the conspiratorial slash podcasting community. It's a huge thing at the moment. And yeah, I think you need to take your Lantern with you to get out because you can get stuck in it. Very easy and well and as I went down the rabbit hole and I don't know how you feel like being red headed like with the whole

Nephilim agenda thing. And then, you know, I felt really weird when I started finding out MyHeritage and stuff like I was like, Oh my gosh, I never even cared about this. I think a few times I even texted you like Oh my gosh, this is bad. You know, especially. If there's RH negative involved, oh you're a natural blood person, you're bad. Oh my gosh, yeah.

And it's, it's just something that, you know, OK, we're dealing with it. You're kind of dealing with it in the moment of like, uh oh, like this is kind of scary. And then also like, I don't, I don't want to be associated with that. So at the same time, you're trying to expose things for the sake of what they believe. They as in the elites, the 1%, the people that believe in the divine right to rule and all this crap. But like you said, at the same time not being like, well, I'm a

redhead, so now I'm screwed. You know, it does, it feels that way. You know, I felt that way because I knew my blood, my bloodline, like I was screwed too. So I was like, Oh my gosh, like this is scary. But that's not true. Like you said, like we have, we have to stop. And that is really that is very easily weaponized.

Some of the rhetoric I've heard online from the black Israelite movement about white people being the devil and all white people at the serpent scene and white people need to be wiped out. It's just racism from another perspective. And, and this is what it does. When you go down the route of I'm better than you because of A or you're lesser than me because of B, you get in some some really dark corners of human existence.

Right. Well, anytime people are saying that they're better, I mean, this whole divine right to rule business is serious to them, right? Like, I mean, look at what they did in Germany. Like, let's just be real here, Blavatsky. I wrote a whole thing about it. I just did an episode on Steiner whole thing about it. Like when you look at this stuff, it doesn't die. Like it's just, it's just forever. And we've got.

We've got a real life account of what the divine right to rule has done geographically in the world. Look at India. India was ceded civilization wise by the Aryan tribes that came from the north. They brought the wheel, they brought horses, they brought agriculture with them. They even gave them Sanskrit, which today is everyone believes is Indian. It came from Northern Europe. They arrived, they set up a

caste system. The air caste system was inherently based on you've got to be an Aryan. Well, there weren't too many Aryan women, so they had to start breeding with the native women. So it created a caste system. India only recently got rid of that. Like you've got a racial based system within their own people. This. But they're still untouchables. They're still untouchables there. It's horrible.

Like literally how do you like? Like I remember when I was young, maybe like 16 or 15, seeing a story about this little kid that everybody said he was an untouchable because I don't even know why he had a witch eye or some shit. I don't know what it was. He was this little, tiny, sweetest little kid and they just left him out there to freaking die. And some lady adopted him and helped him and everything. And I'm like, how do you do that

with humanity? Like at what point are we treating this less than a stray dog? Like awful, awful. Like I just remember reading that and thinking, that can't be real. Like what mother does that? What what person is OK with walking past a baby in the street? Like, I couldn't do it. I'd probably be the lady that adopted him. But you know, I just can't, I just can't imagine that that. And that's not that long ago and

it's still happening. So. And how do you feel if you're those people, even if you're not an untouchable, Like, how do you feel if you live there knowing, Ah, you know, Steiner said that. Yeah, I, I, I can't go anywhere because of my station in life. And Steiner said black people were animals. Like, what is going on? You know, like, oh sorry, you got to reincarnate again to get wider. Steiner, the gentleman who influenced Steiner schools across the world that are still

being used for some reason. The same guy that said little octopus aliens would be injected into humanity. Yeah. Gertcheff, is that what you were talking about? I think so, yeah, Yeah. And and it's just scary. Like some of the stuff they're right about, like some like that's the hard part because Steiner also said go put shandy cat people on the beach to enlighten yourself and be a better person. Like, cool, I can get down with that.

He also reversed the Lord's Prayer because people come at us and say, well, he was a Christian, you know? And I'm like, well, I mean, OK, I don't think so. Yeah. So, you know, you're like in one of these things like Scientology or Mormonism or, or that, you know, whatever, you're an anthroposophist theosophist and, and you're just in this and you're, you're living like this for so long because then they keep you busy forever and you're the chosen 1 and you never get out.

Like when do you stop enough to be like, whoa, maybe this is not good, but they don't a lot of times. And like you said, when they do, it goes bad. So but and humans like being told they're special. There's a a. Level of ego stroking, everyone enjoys a little bit. We like compliments. When you get ego stroking on the level of that, you're the chosen people and you're God's chosen and everyone else's pawns come

in comparison. If you're born in that and you keep swallowing that every day, it's very hard to break away from it because why would you? You don't look a gift horse in the mouth. And that's essentially what a lot of these cults do. Yeah. Why would you? Why would you leave if you're the perfect? One like why would you?

Choose to do anything different if you're the chosen, you know, I mean, the Mormons literally say they're the only true church in the world, that, you know, they're the only one that's true and exists, that we have all the knowledge we have the true keys to Masonry, Masons, you hear that one? Like, I mean, they're not quiet really about it, you know, So I don't know. Yeah, it's really elect the elect, right. So. So. After that book. You've seen some of the the. Truths hidden amongst.

The lies, and you've unpacked it a bit. What's your perspective on it though, as where the truths are when it's talking about America as being this first place? What evidence is there that you think that there is some truth to it? Like when you're you're an American yourself, you've got look, you see your own backyard. Like what evidence is there for ancient peoples and and the things that they're trying to small threats from this this.

Particular book is more focused on quetzicodal being Jesus. I mean like period. And and so you don't believe Jesus was the feathered snake God? I don't, I do not, but. I do know that, you know, Jackson County, Missouri, is where Joseph Smith said is the real Garden of Eden. I don't know if I've ever told you that. So yeah, that's where we're supposed to go. When the end of the world happens. We have to go to Jackson County, Missouri. And a lot of people know this.

And then, you know, you do look at these weird things like all these pyramids and killing. Missouri just doesn't have a God. I know it's so. Bad. I'm like, this is weird. This is super weird and and they've they've still say that that happens to all the rednecks. Do they get like kicked out or smited before? You arrive or I don't know, but they did used to shoot. Mormons. A lot so. I think they better watch themselves. And then then we get the Grand Canyon stuff, you know?

And I do think there's a lot they're hiding. Like, let's be real. I mean, they name like the Temple of Isis right there. They're really not hiding it. But like, I don't think that's that's where we're talking about here. They're trying to say that's also that's not Mormons. That's just a theory, right? That that this is where it was. And I'm like, look, you guys, I just don't buy it. Like you guys just want them to be not Jewish so bad. And let's get real. OK. Like I don't believe.

In Aryan Jesus, and I don't believe in quetzicotal feathered Jesus. I think he might be concerned about that. Like, I don't know if he'd want feathers, but whatever, you know, it just seems like such a stretch all the way around. I don't know, It's silly to me. It seems like it seems like such a danger that people. Can get these these types of books and and they can have their confirmation bias from it. Like if you're interested in ancient history and meteoric impacts and all that.

Jazz the great deception like. One of these books is literally titled that it's it's a good little bit of confirmation bias and it's going to tickle your boxes. It's going to tickle your intrigue. It's going to confirm some things that you want to be true without you actually going through it point point in fact, right. He mentions that the Hebrew. Tribes had firearms. They had gunpowder.

They had. Ball bearings, and that's why they were so powerful at the time, wiping out the Philistines and other other tribes because they had muskets nowhere in historical record. Outside of China have. I seen a culture that had black powder before the Chinese and then via association Europeans who developed guns. Yes, he's made this assumption here and all the references he's tried to make. I can't make that connection work. Can't find anything.

Can't find anything not. Even a stone etching, huh? No. Nothing. Nothing at all. Not a gun that says. This was Jesus Glock in gold sitting in a temple somewhere. I mean, yeah, maybe he'd have a musket. I don't know. Oh boy. Yikes. Oh lordy. So I think. Like the take away from what you're, you've spoken about, what I've spoken about, there's this through line that goes through all of it.

Take away the mysteries. The truth from all of this that we're seeing is there's been some kind of cataclysmic event. There's been people living on closed lines or in inland who have been washed away via floods. There's been God like entities that are pale, probably blonde haired, blue eyed, that made their way to the new world and establish themselves as the divine right to rule. We've had it in India, we had it in South America, we had it in

Australia, Africa even. There's all these accounts now. If you're using Occam's razor, what's the most common sense approach to that? There's also seafaring people who have the ability to go around the world, right? You track that back. Who are the seafaring peoples of the time? Well, they wouldn't be mostly the Mediterranean, Mediterranean's of enclosed kind of area. They don't really know how to

navigate open waters. Mediterranean is pretty close, it's protected from weather for the most part. What people would have been travelling the world would have been the Scandinavians or would have been the British people who actively had to engage in large open seas. And if they had the ability to create boats, they probably had the ability to develop metal urgy and farming techniques. To some person straight out of a cave would look like magic, right? Of course, it's all alien cargo

coats. Right, like all. And that's what JJ always says he's like. It's like, that's what it always goes back to. I'm like, yeah, you're not wrong. You know, I mean, I get it. Like, it would seem very magical if you saw that. What if he had like a feathered coat or something sequence? You got a sequin ball gown on for Aleno. Yeah, I mean, it would be crazy. You know and. What if it was fur instead?

I mean, I don't know. We could conjecture all day, you know, and then again, like if we tried to align this from our understanding. Of scriptures is that there was pre Adamite peoples that had spread across the earth their advance, they were doing things that humans shouldn't be doing and they were punished for it accordingly. And no. And his family or those that survived sounds a lot like the survivors of a said flood which

we know occurred. There was a Raphaim after the Nephilim. They maybe just picked up their boats, picked up what they could, got out just in time, or survived the cataclysm, avoided God's wrath, and they tried to set up camp somewhere new. That's what it sounds like to me, at bare minimum. You guys buy the historical? Candles, seafaring peoples who made their way around the world. Oh, I did forget to mention one thing all of. This and don't forget the Romneys are in Mexico.

Big players there probably make a lot of money. This became like a Mecca thing, and I think it still is. Yeah, to some of the pyramids over in Mesoamerica. Yep. So now when they go there. There's. Still to this day, tours that are like this is for the Mormons because you know, you're serpent God guy that that's not supposed to happen.

But OK. Like, I thought that was debunked by the guy from Yale, by the way, the guy I had to, the guy that debunked it, they came out specifically against it. And he, yeah, he's from Yale. So I thought that was pretty funny. That book is called, Let's see, Breaking the Maya Code by Michael Deco, Mr. Yale himself. So it's yeah. But to this day, those still go. So don't you find it interesting that all of these influential little groups.

Freemasons, Mormons, Shriners, all these types of occultic Christian air quotes groups, they're the most influential people when it comes to First Nations accounts. Like they go in to meet these tribes before anyone else and they put it under the guise of we're spreading the word or

we're trying to help people. I think honestly they are going for that, that bloodline stuff because they believe so, somebody once told me. In one of my podcasts and he's he's really smart researcher, LDS abuse. And he said this is how they do it for, you know, the Marriotts or the Romneys or these important people, right? Like they'll go in and the church will do a small donation when there's a huge problem like an earthquake, right? And that'll get them in the door.

And then once they get there, they're like, hey, but my friend, this really rich Freemason guy, he has food services that we can feed the people. And this guy builds and you need to rebuild your city, so you need the builders and then blah, blah, blah, blah. And so eventually, yeah, it's all of them, right? Like they're, they're all drifting off this money and they're making a ton more than that little original donation, you know? So yeah, it's always been the way. Yeah.

And development, yeah. And. The first contact situations though. Like in North. America, from my understanding, a lot of Mormons and Masons were making contact with the Americans as they went West and they were the first people that they saw. It wasn't the American Union all the time or Union soldiers. It was settlers and people preaching the good word that were finding their way across.

And you know, what information would they try and get a hold of before everyone else could come in and just stamp it out? Oh yeah, and they would, absolutely. Marry into native tribes to make them more white and delights up to help them out. Drew. They're helping them out. Yeah. But really what they're doing is they're stealing their knowledge. They're stealing their quote UN quote magic, whatever that is, like their tribe secrets, right?

And they're using it to their advantage before anybody else can come around. This is constant. And like the Mormons, there would be no America West without the Mormons. Like, I hate to tell people it's just the truth, truth. But also most of the time they were running from being killed. But you know, whatever they they were here. And yeah, this is where they shoot themselves in the foot because you're on one side. You got the. The serpent say on the other

side, you got the chosen. They're trying to claim to be both. Because if they're claiming to be the chosen at the same time as intermarrying to the serpent, say, and gaining their blood magic air quotes, that's what it was. What's their position then? Because you can't. Have both. So if you want my honest in a binary system, it's got to be. One or the other, it can't be both. It's witchcraft like it honestly look. When the people came to America in general, yes, Masons 2.

Yes, freedom of religion. But what's the religion they're trying to stamp out, Drew? What is that religion? I'm not really curious. Right? Like if you really dissect it and look backward, like, who's the one they're kicking out anyways? The heretics? The Gnostics, the witches. Look, I don't care what you want to practice.

That's your salvation, not mine. But when we're talking about this, and then you bring in the other side of it, and they're native, and maybe they have their special things which like it, it could correlate. But right, Maybe they're doing certain kind of magic. We know that most Native tribes do believe in magic in one form or another. And you bring that blood together, which they told them to do, then you gain both. So yeah, so I have to take cocktail. Mm. Hmm. Yep, Yep.

And and it sounds stupid and everybody's going to tell us it's so stupid because it doesn't matter anymore because the kings and Queens aren't real. I literally had someone, every time I bring up bloodlines, it's like they have bots on purpose to like stamp this out, right? Because then it, it exposes the elites for what they're really doing. And why are they all related, right? Why are all the presidents related except a couple? Why are all these people, why am

I related to almost everybody? Because if you're related to 1, like welcome to the club. Like they're all related. And so it's really weird. Yeah. Every time I do one on that, it's literally like the last time somebody was like, kings and Queens aren't even real. I'm like, what? In what world? This is the really thing that annoys me it. Matters to a point we know for the spiritual warfare side of things through the new covenant titles, Bloodlines.

That's all irrelevant now. For them it is very relevant and it's a development for them and us in this physical world.

If they rule via title, via bloodline, via association, it is very, very important for them and it becomes very important to us because they can Lord that power over us in the situation because we have a base system, they're gifted down even we have systems in. Place where they're going to be in control if. You're one of those bloodlines, one of those influential name groups. You're going to go far in life if you marry into that. Your children are going to go far in life.

For us, not so much. But we know the other side of that coin. They've they've very much narrowed down the materialistic to physical because that's all they've got in this. We've got the other side. We've got the trump card on that and we have to look at it like when we think of. Things like, OK, JJ Vance told me all about the Society of the Cincinnati and I didn't know anything about that until I talked to him, right?

And he's an ex Mormon too. And I'm like, that's weird because why have I never heard this ever? Like I know about Freemasons, I know about Martinism, I know about all this crazy stuff like where did this come from, right? And then you start looking into it and what is it? It's gifted down through the patriarchal line and if you served in the service, but you can't just go like. Pledge for it like, oh, I'm a Freemason now because I went to go do your little class or whatever.

No, you can't just be in the secret society with it. Like I went to Yale so I can go and be blah blah blah. No, some of this is literal. You have to prove your lineage and why? If it doesn't freaking matter, well, you better look again, you guys, because I have found so many societies going down this whole thing. Some of them I I've never heard of before, ever. They're weird and, and the names are weird and a lot of them have to do with pure, like just bloodline.

And so, yeah, but I think it's very important to them. I think for us it's irrelevant because we know about what God's rules really are. But if you want to know what kind of chess we're playing here, you have to play 3D chess. You cannot just go through life and be like, the world's different now. Doesn't he matter, You know? No, no, if it didn't matter, then they wouldn't track it back. And they do every time. So it's like. We're playing chess and they're

playing. Checkers on the same board. Yes, slightly different game. So. With this Jesus, this white. Jesus, guy, that you've. Got here. Scottish Jesus. Scottish Jesus must be Ewan. McGregor. Because he looks like Jesus when he played everyone Kenobi. So I'm. Assuming that's what he looks like. So weird. So what do they say about? This. So it's the geographical. Location of great.

Britain is essentially an. Overlay of what Jerusalem or avant region is today Galilee is Wales because of the close proximity Scotland is Jerusalem, Ireland is Egypt and when they're expelled out of Ireland they across and if that's where the red the. Dead Sea was or the red. Sea and they cross there through that little bridge there. It's an issue in that he brings up all these points about Jesus being white, which I don't know, he very well could have been.

The demographics of the time were very different. At most maybe they look like northern Italians today or early Greeks, whatever, doesn't really matter. But he goes down this path of the bloodlines again, mentioning that Odin in the a lot of the paganistic gods weren't gods, but were people. Which to the Gray? I kind of believe Maybe the ancient gods were people.

In Nephilim or. Something of that nature and that Odin wasn't necessarily a person but was a title given to someone like a Chieftain. And Odin of his time married into the bloodline of Jesus children and out of that came the Royals of Great Britain. So again, he's already putting himself as a British person. Conformational bias writs are the true key to the world because we had the greatest empire until a bunch of farmers in the new world decide to stop

paying their taxes, right? But it's it's the same thing I see. Everywhere I see it in the Black Israel Israel movement, I. See it in Mormonism. I see it in every small kind of niche occulting group. Everyone wants to be the chosen. Everyone wants to be the best. Everyone wants to have the special blood type, right? And he writes it into his book Pretty. Well. The locations are quite. Compelling the. Parallels between Jerusalem.

And Great Britain, I'll give him based on the descriptions from the Bible and what ancient Britain looked like, I'll give him that. I'll even give him the the olive branch of just because there are Romanesque style baths and Romanesque Greco Roman style things in Britain doesn't mean the Romans arrived. It just means they were influenced by them. Look, today you can walk down the street in Australia and walk down the street in America.

If you didn't know what country you're in and you just saw the architecture, you know you're in a similar place. That's what could have happened in the ancient world, that shared culture meant shared architecture and shared styles. And I don't think that equates to global Tataria. I think it just means right change of culture and and arts more. Than anything else. OK, All right, so. They they do the Rex Deus. Yes, you said Jesus's bloodline. So children. Yeah, yeah. OK.

And you do know that Joseph Smith was Irish. And so I find this story interesting. I wonder where they got it from originally. And, and this is where they they even connect into like the historical. Counts of truth and here's the truth. Scoter was an Egyptian Princess who helped found Scotland in the ancient times.

Scoter namesake for Scotland, the Irish, the Tuafa de Zanan were the like pre deluge people, the Aryans, the fae folk, the fairy folk that sat at round tables, fairy circles like. All this mythology has been mixed up into this massive blender and you throw a few interconnecting wisps of biblical scripture into it. It really mutters, muddies the message of of Christ, and you can see why people find it appealing. It's entertaining. Don't get me wrong. If this if I was my.

My Jesus is. Mexico, yours is. Red headed white probably. So I don't know. We got to fight I guess. Just not in red headed Jesus. Can't fight in Mexico because. The sun would burn him, but this is true. This is true, yeah, and I'm not making fun. Of the gods of Mexico. I'm making fun of the fact. That the Mormons strove so hard to be like this is the thing. Well, it's, it's, it's quite funny. We've seen it.

That kind of joked. About in modern media, I don't know if you're familiar with a show called American Gods. It was ATV series from about 10 years ago now. And every single God from ancient up until modern is represented in the show and their characters. And humanity in this story brings gods into existence just by believing in something. So the oldest gods in this story are trees, tree worship. And then you get into the irony. This is the golden bow. Yeah.

You get into the Odens, you get the Zeus. And whatnot. But then. There's this like an Expo gathering over all these gods where they mate once a year and catch up with each other. There's about 50 different versions of Jesus because humanity has all these different beliefs about what Jesus look like. So there's a Mexican Jesus, there's a white and light Jesus, there's a female Jesus. It's always Jesus. And it's just kind of throwing it in our face. Yeah, of course.

Because if they confuse. It we'll never figure it out. And then it also plays into the Gnostic. Thing because. Then Jesus is everything, right? And everything is everything. And it's in the grass and the dirt. It's in you and it's in me. And I do believe that in a different way. Not not that way. I do believe that Jesus is in everything, but not like how they're talking about. I also don't want to be. Yeldebeus. Oops. Like. The the particles in the Pluroma of Oopsie Yeldebeus.

Like there's some great stories. I don't know. People don't know. That's a Gnostic story, people. Check that out. If you don't know we're in Oops, there's some. Connections in this that he. Makes between Egyptian. History and the expulsion of the Hyksos, and I don't know if you're familiar with who they

are. The Hyksos were according to modern academia were eleven time people from the Levant region, Palestine Philistine area that came across into Egypt and conquered northern Egypt. Dismissed all the gods except for one, the Akhenaten, which is the sun God, and they ruled there. They adopted the culture of Egypt for quite a while until they're expelled and kicked out. He likens this as being the story of Noah of of Moses rather and Moses being kicked out of Egypt.

And he does the Gnostic story of spinning Old Testament on its head. The good guys, the bad guys, the bad guys, the old guys, even Abraham, he brings back to an Egyptian word called Abraham came into Egypt, not Abraham. Abraham was a Hyksos God. So he goes down this this dialectic of do you know that the the Jews were the bad guys, right? And he's talking about in talking about it in hush tones to try and kind of make them the

others. But at the same time, the rest of his book is trying to say that the Scots are the true Jews. Again, confirmation bias doesn't really matter. New Testament. Come on, people, the program. Oh boy, oh boy. This is actually interesting. Because you and I both know some people that really, really dig the Akhenaten Jesus theory. So I'm assuming they may have read this book. I might have to get this book, I guess the dry British book, it is very dry. And if you don't, If you're not

academically. Minded. He's going to use the big words in there that'll throw you out. I apologize to my listeners early when I start recording these. It's not worse than Steiner's 6000 lectures that I do. Certainly not worse than that, but you will if you are a. Lover of history and particularly of Greek mythology, you'll love to listen and the alternative take on that. Well, that's what I can put out.

He does a lot of talk about Creighton, the Cretans and how we have that term now by history because Crete is kind of rebelling against the rest of of Greece and that's how we refer to people today. Interesting to the linguistics. You just have to sift through the weeds and to find the flower inside, which is the truth, which is half the fun. I'm I'm fascinated by this whole thing now I.

Didn't know exactly where. You were going with your book and now I have to get that book because the Mormons are Irish and they have this weird Rex Deus story. And when people get in trouble here, like our attorney general that said he was not a cannibal, Drew, he got up and I'm not kidding. I'm not going to name his name. People can look it up. Nobody asked him. I don't know if God like played a trick on him and something came in his ear and he thought somebody asked him.

But in the middle of a press conference, press conference on TV, he said I am not a cannibal. Nobody asked. Nobody asked I. Can you imagine being there? What did he do? Why? Why did? You say that. Could you? Imagine being his wife. What are you doing? Stop that weirdo. Like so, but then go and bite her ear off. Do it. I'm not a cannibal. I'm not, and so I was. Everybody was confused.

That they were like what? And so he ran away and bought a castle in Scotland. So as you do, you know, getting, getting going back. To old Jerusalem, apparently. Apparently he's going to the homeland so. Weird. Super weird. We have. To tell you. That as you're reading all this, I'm like, Yep, they know the story. Mexico or. Scotland. That's where they're going wild. Absolutely wild. Well. We're not going to be like an Oprah's Book Club and then tell

people to go out and buy books. But for the listeners, if you do want to get hold of these, they are stupidly expensive. Stupidly expensive. I put that down to two reasons. The guy's dead and it's up to someone to publish these second part. It does contain a lot of no, no words, Aryans, cure bloods, all that jazz. Very ethnocentric, but it makes sense for the time it was written. This guy comes from a world that

was prior to the Nazi party. And academia did believe in those words and they used those words. And I don't think those words are necessarily bad. It's just a certain mustache man from Austria who liked to paint paintings made it bad for everyone. So if you want to do these books, you may or may not be able to get it in your country. Oh, really? Yeah. That's weird it. Could be illegal in some countries. That's weird, yeah. Mine is 5 bucks. Now because. It's on the no note list.

Mine's on the no note list, so yeah, it's like 495 on Goodreads with bad ratings, so there's that. I'm going to have to get that just because it's a cheap book. Oh, that's my library. It's. Cheap. Yeah, Yep, it's. It's actually got, like I said, it's got a lot of really cool pictures. It's got a lot of really cool definitions and important things that are true and very strange and weird, like definitions of occultic type stuff. I did find it funny. One last thing too, I found it

kind of on maps and everything. Drew, you'll like it. I did find it a little bit funny that he lost his faith. I think it was in 1960 and the funding ran out in 1959. Probably a coincidence. I don't know. What was he shaking the cock? Is the face feeling pretty thin right now? He's like, look, give me my money. They were done digging in. Mexico because I didn't find anything cool so.

I wonder if you're going to extrapolate that little situation to. People in the conspiratorial podcasting lens, when people are dogmatic about Tartari and then eight years after they've made all the money and the topic starts to die out, they suddenly go, oh, we got it wrong. It wasn't true. No, no, no, that's not what they do. They never say they got it. Wrong. And then they're like, look at this Hollywood guy. It's really Elvis. This guy is Elvis, and this is not.

He's not dead. He's our president. Oh, yeah, yeah. The new thing is, the new thing's not putting out books and waiting. 60 years for it to germinate into popular culture. The new one is micro trending, jumping on TikTok, pointing to things behind you going oh, look at. This Did you know Donald? Trump is actually General Patton. I thought he was Elvis. Yeah, exactly a video. A2 ago he was Elvis so they can't. Even keep track of the people they're trying to, you know,

talk about no, no one better. One better. We got to. Do it, They don't wait for a super long time on the books because they AI AM and they're done in like 5 minutes. Yes, it's very convenient when you've got a. Pre written book and you end up on a major series of podcasts or within 10 days and your book is the topic of conversation that somehow you've been writing for a very long time. But you appear on all the shows and then you've got all the big name people all at once.

Which drew as long as you've known me, let's see I've. Been doing this for almost 3 years. I have been doing research and study and some writing of a book. There's no I'm not even 100 pages in. It's been three years. That's it takes so. Long and. I can't even imagine if it ever gets done and I get it edited. Like that's going to take a billion years. Like I might be dead when my book gets written too. Maybe it'll be stupid extensive and you know I'm going to

surprise the viewers guess. What I'm also writing a book. But it's not conspiratorial. It's just a work of fiction. It's a bit of fun. It's a story. And I've also written a kids picture story book. But I'm not going to build a pulp profile on that and go on to every circuit and go to conventions for adults who are trying to be 1 but don't want to go to Comic Con because I think it's nerdy. I would rather go to I think Comic Con might be fun you. Can at least wear an outfit.

Always have fun with it, you don't have to like you. You're pretending to be something that you're not, but it's a different type of thing. I think that's fun. I don't know. I mean, I'm not against any.

Of it but look here's the thing like if you want to do any AI book that's fine like if and some people have done a lot of studying and just used AI to put it together that's a different thing right and and I'm not dissing anybody that wants to go do whatever they want to do but don't act offended when academics because there are some of us in the podcast world that have multiple degrees and we're academics and when we go like that and I'll never. Not say like.

I just had a guy on that I completely disagree with. OK, he thinks we should all go do the Torah feasts and all the things and I have to go in a shed. Thank God I don't bleed anymore. Literally. I'm not kidding. I'm not saying it in a bad way. I don't know. I don't know what that is, but like I would still have them on to hear them out because I like to hear people out. That's the whole point. If I agreed with everyone, how boring really. But also there's some people like that.

You've never. Heard of this guy? Because he doesn't. He's not an infomercial, you know, He's just a guy like who has a fairly OK theory. Like I would still hear him out, but it's it's not hearing it out every day on end and end and end. So yeah, you get my point. Anyway, I do. Or you could be like me and be a contentious person and invite.

People on and then challenge them and they seem to swim and not like being challenged and then put the word out and you got the kibosh on you and people don't want to show anymore. But anyway, that's we're talking about that, yeah. Oh boy. But we're going to get in trouble for that to your benefit. Though like you mentioned, people, they'll do a lot of research and they'll. Compile it and they'll get AI to write it right. AI is still writing it like. Are they actually? Are they?

Doing deep research where they're rewording it themselves and or are they just copying and pasting from links online and then getting the book written for them? Because I can read someone's book or a piece of writing and I can tell when AI is doing it. Because if you've heard the person speak versus the way the person writes, yes, there is an academic form of writing that's different from the way you

speak. But you can tell when someone's talking and that they are in vocabulary limit to the words that they're actually using in conversation versus what they're putting into a whole book. True. Bit of a red flag. True, true, true. And honestly? Like either way you do it, it's fine, but I don't think it should be compared to the works that are old, you know, like these older books that, and I think that's the only reason why I even bring it up.

But I have seen some reviews on Amazon lately. No one in our podcast community. OK, I was just looking at some books and literally it's like printing the day before they got it. They were like, apparently this is printed just for me. How weird is that? Like they're just literally typing things into AI the night before they sell it on Amazon. Yeah. And you've got the mechanisms on Amazon where you had it.

Published, binded and sent out. We saw that during COVID, like those books that came out within a day or two of events happening, but had yeah, chapter upon chapter upon chapter of information and it just came out so weird. That's that to. Me is really like a new one because you would think like, I mean, I get it, like you don't want to waste money and I guess wait till it's sold. But also like that doesn't tell me you have a whole lot of faith in yourself. So I don't know.

No. And that's the Catch 22, the balancing act that we have. You don't want to go to a lot of these newer sources because there's a state of entropy. I think when it comes to the occult conspiracy theories, we're regurgitating information that's been done 20 times over, if not more, and people have done it all. And the occult hundreds. Yeah. Because if not thousands. Because of thousands of years of regurgitation. And they're not really getting to the minutiae and the point of it.

So you're getting this very watered down version of things, which can be dangerous because then it might sound appealing, it might send you down the path of Gnosticism. Then you've got the opposite side of things. You have books like these, which were written quite a long time ago. You can tell it's of the language of the person that wrote it, of their station. But then again, you have to double check their sources just because it's a book from the 1930s.

Doesn't mean it's an academic piece of amazingness. It's not always the case. Yep, Yep. And even if there's some interesting. Things in there and that are true, it doesn't make it true. And what if you're a magician and you buy that crappy book and you do the thing wrong and you screw yourself over and you're screwed for the rest of your life because you did it wrong? Exactly. You don't want to. You don't want to practice binding demons if you.

Don't have the right things at your disposal. I wouldn't do it, but I wouldn't do it anyway. So yeah. But there are people out there who because of the New Age movement. Think they can do these things? And if you're a lion, although from Amazon, that was printed two weeks earlier. Probably not your best. Source Well, although Agrippa said nothing he wrote was true and that he. Didn't practice. OK, I'm on one. I'm sorry, but that's real. He.

Really said that. But also they were trying to kill witches, so I mean, yeah. I don't know, whatever. Yeah, well, I but he wrote it himself. Yes, there you go there. That's that's that's. Good. He did it on himself, by himself, that that's a man of substance right there. But I think that's not real. So yours is, you know. In a nutshell, people. Drews is there is a white Jesus in Britain and I have a white feathered Jesus in Mesoamerica.

So, so sorry if we extrapolate those and combine those things. Jesus was a white Scottish lizard dragon, and he went from Scotland, the Hebades, and went all the way to the New World. For some reason he needed a tan. Yeah, he needed a tan. Scotland's dreary and there's no spices there. Like, come on, they went all the way to. South America to get some capsicum and bell Peppers and chilies and tahin yes, and tahin yes. Nothing says Jesus like let's. Sacrifice some people on an.

Altar on a giant pyramid. That's what happened. So and you. Know the calendar thing that was wrong, but that's OK, we'll forget about that. And the DNA thing that was also wrong. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, don't, don't look at those. Yeah. You'll get excommunicated. If that didn't come through my message, I don't know what else can't. Don't forget Romneys are in it. Dun Dun Dun Dun. So Dang it Hardy, if you just keep focusing on the negative. Wrong. Things in these books you'll

never get anywhere. I know, I know. I think I missed the point. I missed the point, I guess I don't know. Well, we we did say the name of this show was unfiltered. Point I think we were pretty harsh on the authors at times, but Ouch. But we that we take take it for. What it is, though, there's some. Great stuff in there and there's some really silly stuff and you kind of have to point out the

silly stuff. I'm not a going to be a fanboy within this community and promote something that I don't 100% believe in and I'm pretty sure we know, but unfortunately. I do see a lot of people. That jump onto a trend and then they make their entire persona about that. But that's true, don't you do you? That's that's fine. You can be that person, that's fine. I will not be that person. Absolutely no. No.

Yeah, you guys gotta. But I will say this, anybody that's reading books at this point in this day and age, good. Yeah. You are the chosen people because you read. You're a set about that's. Right. That's right. And if you're Mormon, you probably really. Are you're chosen? So is this like like a burn book situation? Where we're going to come up with a like a Oprah Book Club seal. But it's the Burn Book, the unfiltered, unfiltered point. Seal of disapproval. And we pick everyone up The

point Burn this book. Burn this book. Oh. Don't really though, sorry you wasted your money but this one was only $5.00 so it's OK. Hey, that's right. No, there's cool stuff in this one. Don't burn this one. I I think it's kind of sad because and God, do not burn this one that's expensive. If I would if you burn this one, jeez. Off, off, all right, especially. When you ship to Australia, Oh Oh no, the shipping got you.

I. Yeah, the cost was bad enough, but then when I realized the shipping cost. Went on topos. I got my most out of reading it. Let's. Just let's put that way. You're like, that's all right now it goes to the shelf. Dun Dun. Dun. Oh no, you're going to do a thing on it. Yeah. Although, yeah. And I am intrigued to actually get his other books to see. Where he's actually drawing historical parallels from

because the history is good. I think it gives a good insight into human movements across Europe from the step and all the different groups, which I think could give us a greater insight into pre diluvian times. But I think he's missing the mark in some other areas, which is OK. And they probably killed him. No, just kidding, did. He die. He did. OK. I was just gonna ask, like, did he die about death? Because my dude made it too old.

So something about being having a red handkerchief around his. Neck and a doorknob or no, Just joking. Oh no, look at this guy. Oh wait, look how creepy. This guy is. Doesn't he just scream? I'm a part of MI 6, you know, he looks just like. He looks what's his? Oh my gosh. Yeah. MI 6 British. He's most likely linked to Aristotle. He didn't smile. No, Yeah, so maybe his teeth. Are bad but we can't tell you scream an MI 5 MI 6 for sure.

Definitely, definitely weird. Well, maybe it was planned. Who knows, Like we definitely don't. And my guy did go like I asked like what happened after? Like where'd he go? And it was like, oh, he just obscurity, like, leave him alone, OK? He disappeared himself. That just fills you full of confidence, doesn't it? I mean, he lived till he was in his 80s, but yeah, he was like he. Lived a private life. I'm like this.

So the church paid him off. You know, there's another book I found that I'm not going to talk about right now. Right now. But so wait, that's all I got to do to retire is write a book about Mormonism. They disavow and then get paid off. You probably hold on. I'm going to chat with GPT right now. Yeah. Yeah. It's true this guy wrote this.

Book and it's all about Dartmouth and I read this I read this whole thing about the book I find a podcast about the book can't find the book anywhere like. Not for a billion dollars, I. Mean it's gone so I'm like that's weird I don't know so if you. Wrote that book. Come talk to me. 'Cause that's weird. If you happen to see whiskey. Guys but weird, how about you? Some advice to listeners. If they're looking. For. Particular niche books. Where would you advise they try

to find them? Mine. I'm always at the bookstore. It's in the mall, It's so easy. For me, but it's like a second hand bookstore. It's Eborn Books. The guy knows me by name. He's like, hey, what's up lady that buys all the books? Yeah, I agree. You have to go to those. Like Little. Niche coffee shops slash they have books up on the walls and you can buy them if you want to.

Those are good places. Amazon is hit and miss because it's so commercialized that certain topics that will just flag and not allow on there or they won't be on for very long. EBay be or it'll be printed the night before on see through paper. Yeah, yeah, Or, you know, eBay is good because it's. It's a physical place where people just pop there. I have seen some on what's that? What's that book type? Etsy. Etsy. I have found books on Etsy.

That are old books, so sometimes you'll find some cool ones there. Yeah, nice. Well, Heidi, Read Read people. That's good. Please read. And even if it's rubbish. And if you have to start off with sesame. Street in the morning going through the ABC. Song that's fine because you will get there eventually, but read your Bible first. Yes, and don't use AI. To write your books. And then go on the circuit and do other things. Caddy. This has been fun, Heidi. And like I said to my.

We're the pointy unfiltered tonight. Next time, we'll be unfiltered. Point I have been drew. Mr. View of Mr. Point podcast, like I said. I will be recording each of these chapters and putting my thoughts to the ends of these and putting it out purely based on the price of this book. I don't expect people to go out there and buy it, nor would I advise you to. If you want to, by all means, It is quite expensive.

The information is great historically and geographically, linguistically tips all the boxes for me as a academic and someone who loves that stuff as a hobby. But connecting it to scripture was my bit of an issue. Heidi, how about you? Where can listeners find you? Awesome. I am Heidi love of the unfiltered drives. Everywhere podcasts are served if you want more of me because you know, you just love how I laugh or some silly thing who knows what I am at Unfiltered

drives on Patreon as well. I do two extra shows a month. I hate cutting episodes or doing any weird stuff like that because it's just not me. So find me there. I'm 5 bucks. It's like I'm not going to raise it unless they raise the prices just because I feel that's fair and I want to be fair to my listeners. So thank you for following. Thank you, Drew. As always. It is a pleasure. Even though you're pointy unfiltered tonight. Yeah, I can't help it. Next time it's you, I'll have to

hand you the torch. Yes, you know, you never know with me, no. Man, our guys, we'll catch you all next time. Bye.