Undermine

Undermine is the definitive Phish podcast. New season coming soon, building on what we've done—seasons on Phish’s genesis in the 1980s, the Phish community, the Baker's Dozen, and Fall '97. Through deep-dives into the music, shows and songs; interviews with people who were there; and discussion about Phish's lasting impact. Undermine is presented by Osiris Media.

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Under the Scales: Federal Donuts (Re-Release)

I interview Felicia D’Ambrosio, one of the partners of Federal Donuts who supplied all the donuts for Phish’s Baker’s Dozen shows July and August 2017. We learn about stairwells, Neil Young, and that holes are a flavor. Originally released in 2018. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 06, 2024•58 min

Under the Scales: Dicks 2017 (Re-Release)

I wander around the Dicks lot during the Phish shows in September 2017 in Denver. I meet and talk to a lot of people including Bethany Barker of Phish Chicks and Paige Clem of the Phellowship. Music, art, glassware, sandwiches, nitrous, artificial legs, tributes to lost fans and guidance aplenty. Originally released in 2018. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 05, 2024•57 min

Under the Scales: The Pinsky Triangle (Re-Release)

Jason Pinsky is Tom's guest in the Under the Scales Season 2 opener. Jason is a former Phish employee, music fan, food fan and cannabis connoisseur. Originally released in 2018. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sep 04, 2024•1 hr 6 min

Under the Scales: Andy Gadiel (Re-Release)

For our Season-ending episode I am joined by the founder of Jambase.com -- Andy Gadiel ushered Phish and fans into the internet age with one of the very first band websites on the World Wide Web. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 28, 2024•1 hr 4 min

Under the Scales: Andy Bernstein (Re-Release)

Andy Bernstein, founder of HeadCount, talks to Tom about multiple Phish-related projects. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 27, 2024•56 min

Under the Scales: Scott Herman (Re-Release)

Scott Herman and Tebo inflict severe Q&A upon Tom. Scott, for those unaware, has 18 or more Phish songwriting credits to his name. Also: the REAL *Helping Friendly Book* is revealed. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 26, 2024•1 hr 4 min

Under the Scales: Phil and Friends Q&A (Re-Release)

Big Phil and Medium Phil, both longtime Phish friends and fans, stop by to ask Tom questions...only, they forgot the questions. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 23, 2024•1 hr 38 min

Under the Scales: Live Stream (Re-Release)

Eli Tishberg tells us about directing the video feed that allows us to see Phish live in our living rooms in unparalleled quality. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 22, 2024•48 min

Under the Scales: Jazz is Phish (Re-Release)

Jazz Is Phish drummer Adam Chase illuminates the intricate workings of one of the most creative Phish cover bands. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aug 21, 2024•58 min

Special Report: New Songs Pt. 2

Join us for this special report, where Tom and Benjy talk through the new songs. This is part 2! Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, and Benjy Eisen. Edited by Eric Limarenko. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Production assistance from Nick Cejas. Original Music by Amar Sastry. Art by Mark Dowd. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 17, 2024•17 min

Special Report: New Songs Pt 1

Join us for this special report, where Tom and Benjy talk through the new songs. This is part 1. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, and Benjy Eisen. Edited by Eric Limarenko. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Production assistance from Nick Cejas. Original Music by Amar Sastry. Art by Mark Dowd. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 17, 2024•29 min

Under the Scales: Posters (Re-Release)

Tom is in the studio with Jim Pollock and David Welker, the two cornerstones of the Phish poster phenomenon. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 16, 2024•1 hr 2 min

Under the Scales: Petrea Kelly (Re-Release)

Petrea Davis and Kelly Baines swim Under the Scales to inflict another Q&A upon Tom. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 15, 2024•58 min

Under the Scales: Tale of Two Songs (Re-Release)

Tom puts the songwriting and recording process under the microscope with two co-writers and two new songs. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 11, 2024•1 hr 15 min

Under the Scales: Kelly Morris (Re-Release)

Kelly Morris, creator of the captivating video accompaniment to the Phish song 'More', tells us what MORE she has in store! Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 10, 2024•50 min

Under the Scales: Yossarian (Re-Release)

Yossarian Kelly, early friend of the Dead, early phan, early bird when it comes to growing cannabis legally, calls UTS from Washington to check in. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 09, 2024•52 min

Under the Scales: Steve Martocci (Re-Release)

GroupMe founder and Phish super-fan Steve Martocci talks about collaboration and inspiration on a beautiful day in New York City. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 08, 2024•50 min

Under the Scales: Andrea Nusinov (Re-Release)

Andrea is an amazing Phish photographer who shares secrets on how her hobby took off! She also captures moments and the feeling we forgot. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 05, 2024•48 min

Under the Scales: Questions Answers 1 (Re-Release)

A new type of episode, in which Tom answers your questions, or at least makes an attempt... Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 03, 2024•1 hr 11 min

Under the Scales: Holly Bowling Part 2 (Re-Release)

Holly Bowling continues entrancing us with her musical powers...and disassembles my piano! Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 02, 2024•47 min

Under the Scales: Holly Bowling Part 1 (Re-Release)

Holly Bowling stops by the studio to educate us musically -- my piano has never sounded better! Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 02, 2024•51 min

Under the Scales: Benjy Eisen Part 2 (Re-Release)

The second half of the Benjy Eisen interview in which we cover Phish and Reed Mathis...oh, and life and lyrics. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 01, 2024•1 hr 3 min

Under the Scales: Benjy Eisen Part 1 (Re-Release)

Benjy Eisen talks about the wonderful book, Deal, he co-wrote with Bill Kreutzmann of the Grateful Dead. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 01, 2024•49 min

Under the Scales: PhanArt (Re-Release)

Phan Art Pete (Mason) created a vibrant art enterprise which has grown beyond the Phish community where it started. And that's just ONE thing he's doing…Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 27, 2024•44 min

Under the Scales: Phish Companion (Re-Release)

I speak with Phillip Zerbo, co-editor for the incredible Phish Companion Volume 3. Can 30 years fit into 900 pages? Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 26, 2024•46 min

Under the Scales: RELIX (Re-Release)

Mike Greenhaus gives us an amazing perspective on how Relix magazine has been involved in and crucial to the jam scene since its inception. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 25, 2024•50 min

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