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Under The Gloss with Phoebe Burgess

Vogue Australiawww.vogue.com.au

Under The Gloss doesn’t just scratch the surface, we go deep into conversations you didn’t know you needed to hear. Phoebe Burgess unpacks everything from sex, relationships, cancel culture and social media through the lens of honest and compelling conversations with experts, celebs and brave people with a story to share. No topic is off limits: if you’re Googling it or sharing it in your DM’s, Under The Gloss is talking about it.

 

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Stephanie Wood fell in love with a fraudster

In this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe talks to journalist Stephanie Wood about a relationship that was going well....they chatted, they met in person, they went on romantic dates, they talked about growing old on an olive farm together....and then went very badly, with Stephanie discovering the man was dating someone else, he was bankrupt, he had a fraud related criminal conviction and so much more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

Sep 27, 202248 min

Me-time, abstinence and internal showers: let's unpack

Is me-time a load of BS? Do we all need to abstain from sex? And why on earth are ‘internal showers’ trending on TikTok? In this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe welcomes Felicity Harley, author and host of Body & Soul podcast Healthy-ish, and Alison Izzo, digital and beauty director of Body & Soul to chat about the weird, wonderful and frankly WTF wellness trends. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 21, 202241 min

Jana Pittman on authoring your own life: six kids, divorce and resilience

You’re probably already familiar with the name Jana Pittman. The four-time Commonwealth Games gold medallist turned doctor, is also a mother of six children, each with unique stories of how they came to be. Her journey to motherhood has been anything but conventional: sperm donation, IVF, egg donation, solo-parenting, and co-parenting. Pittman has (almost) done it all. In this episode of Under The Gloss, Jana opens up about her divorce, the unlikely upshot of career disappointments (hint: it led...

Sep 13, 202238 min

“I remember just feeling so free” Phoebe and Leah Itsines chat breast reductions

Boobs…let’s talk about them. In this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe and author, cook and Bare founder, Leah Itsines chat about their personal decisions to undergo a breast reduction. From chronic pain to breast-feeding, common misconceptions to confidence, Phoebe and Leah explore the physical and emotional journey to a smaller cup-size. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 06, 202231 min

Kathryn Eisman can decode your clothes

Kathryn Eisman has a unique skill. The Aussie journalist and producer can tell what you’re thinking, by what you’re wearing. She’s even written two books about it - How To Tell A Man By His Shoes and How To tell A Woman By Her Handbag – which investigates how the decisions we make about what to wear each morning have a profound impact on the way the world sees us, and how we see ourselves. In this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe sits down with Kathryn to chat about the premise behind her new ...

Sep 02, 202238 min

Camilla Franks is letting go of perfectionism

You probably know Camilla Franks as the ‘kaftan queen’: the larger-than-life icon of the Australian fashion industry whose designs are loved by Oprah, JLo, and Robbie Williams. But beyond Camilla, the designer, is Camilla the advocate and all-round champion for breast cancer awareness and screening – a journey she knows all too well after being diagnosed with breast cancer in 2018, eight weeks after the birth of her daughter. In this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe and Camilla chat about the ...

Aug 23, 202251 min

Edwina McCann, Vogue Australia editor-in-chief: Media, the Met Gala and future-proofing a brand

In this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe asks all the burning questions of Edwina McCann, Vogue Australia editor-in-chief and Prestige Publisher. From walking the red carpet at this year's Met Gala, to what it truly means to be a sustainable fashion brand, and the evolution of Vogue, Edwina and Phoebe delve Under The Gloss of one of the globe's most influential and recognisable brands. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

Aug 16, 202239 min

We need to talk about 'The Infertility Trap'

According to experts, Australia is on the cusp of a major fertility crisis. Dubbed 'The Infertility Trap' by reproductive biologist, John Aitken, we’re apparently having less children than we did fifty years ago and we're relying on assisted reproductive technologies to do so. To unpack this, Phoebe is joined by Vogue Australia's senior health and beauty editor, Remy Rippon, to discuss her own fertility journey, as well as Dr Courtney Fiebig, a general practitioner from Coogee Beach Doctors, who...

Aug 09, 202233 min

Considering leaving your job? Emma Lewisham and Gab Waller have some advice

What happens when your career takes a complete left turn? What does it take to drop what you’re doing and pursue your passion? On this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe chats to the wardrobe whisperer of Instagram, Gab Waller and New Zealand-based beauty mogul, Emma Lewisham about career pivots, being led by your passion, and the challenges of building a business from the ground up. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

Aug 02, 202232 min

Polyamory and Open Relationships – Phoebe does a deep dive

What does it mean to be polyamorous, in an open relationship, or non-monogamous? In this episode of Under the Gloss, Phoebe chats with make-up artist Max Serrano about redefining relationships, boundaries, kinks, and how she navigates dating her husband, with expert advice from sex coach Georgia Grace. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 26, 202253 min

Masterchef’s Melissa Leong on boundaries and the stories Australia is ready to hear

There’s more to Melissa Leong, than what we see on our screens each night. Deep-thinking and whip-smart, Melissa was on track to attend the Conservatorium of Music before turning her attention to the food industry as a writer, consultant and broadcaster. Then, in 2020, Masterchef came knocking, and life as she knew it, shifted gears. In this episode of Under The Gloss, Melissa talks about letting go of privacy, leather gloves, and why Australians should be ready to hear the stories she’s about t...

Jul 19, 202242 min

Where on earth does Australia stand on abortion rights?

Reproductive and abortion rights are back on the news agenda in the wake of the US Supreme Courts landmark over-turning of Roe v Wade. In this episode, Phoebe chats to award-winning journalist and author Gina Rushton about how this decision has been felt outside of the US and what this ultimately means for reproductive rights here in Australia. Gina Rushton's book: The Most Important Job In The World Content warning: This episode contains discussions of abortion and reproductive rights so please...

Jul 12, 202240 min

Find My Friend – Laura Henshaw and Steph Claire Smith on navigating their friendship

Friends. Besties. Mates. Whatever you want to call your inner circle, our close friendships are among the most important connections we have in our lives. But what happens when life events like marriage, motherhood, divorce, and career moves, alter those close bonds? And how do we navigate the natural ebbs and flows with those closest to us? In this episode, Phoebe sits down with BFF’s and founders of Keep It Cleaner, Steph Claire Smith and Laura Henshaw, as well as relationship coach Katie O’Do...

Jul 07, 202235 min

Part Two - Kylie Moore-Gilbert's extraordinary prison survival story

Kylie Moore-Gilbert spent 804 days in an Iranian jail. The then 31-year-old University of Melbourne academic travelled to Iran for a conference, was arrested at the airport, charged with espionage and sentenced to 10 years in prison. This is the second part of Phoebe's conversation with Kylie. In this episode, we delve into the very complicated love triangle Kylie found herself involved in, as well as the reality of returning home to a broken marriage under intense media scrutiny. We also chat a...

Jun 26, 202238 min

Part One - Kylie Moore-Gilbert's extraordinary prison survival story

Kylie Moore-Gilbert spent 804 days in an Iranian jail. The then 31-year-old University of Melbourne academic travelled to Iran for a conference, was arrested at the airport, charged with espionage and sentenced to 10 years in prison. After over 2 years inside the jail - and long and delicate negotiations between Iran’s Revolutionary Guard and the Australian government - she was eventually released in 2020. In this episode of Under The Gloss - the first of two episodes - Kylie delves into the dep...

Jun 23, 202250 min

The alcohol wake-up call we might all need

Ever considered why we associate drinking with good times? Or why the hangovers (and the anxiety) seem to get worse as we get older? On this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe chats to journalist, podcast host and Sober Curious author Ruby Warrington about why we don't need a 'drinking problem' to find drinking problematic, how to dial-back the booze, and what we might even be missing out on when we pick up a cocktail. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

Jun 15, 202232 min

Jaguar Jonze decided to speak up

In 2021, Brisbane-based musician and activist, Jaguar Jonze, became one of the first local artists to call out toxic culture within the Australian music industry. It was a move that could have left her music career in tatters, but instead, she was among the brave voices that led to pivotal change within the industry and the company's at the helm. In this episode, Phoebe and Jaguar explore the price of activism, the healing capability of creativity, and the wedding photo that should never have su...

Jun 09, 202232 min

Jonathan Van Ness is having a moment

Multi-hyphenate comedian, Queer Eye star, author, beauty entrepreneur and advocate, Jonathan Van Ness joins Phoebe for a raw and honest chat that runs the gamut from bravery and turning off your DM’s to Destiny’s Child and pumpkin cross-pollination. Content warning that this episode touches on themes that could be triggering for some listeners. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 03, 202228 min

Let's talk about sex

Georgia Grace is a certified sex coach and podcast host, and in this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe poses the questions many women might be a little too afraid to ask...what does “infidelity” mean to a sexologist? How do I get back on the dating scene after a bad break-up? And bugger it, should I just have a one night stand? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 26, 202230 min

Phoebe Burgess isn’t done talking

Our MO at Under The Gloss is to bring you honest and compelling stories. This one starts with that of the host, Phoebe Burgess. For the first episode, we flip the format and invite Claire Harvey, host of the podcast The Front, to ask Phoebe the tough questions about her personal life and reclaiming her voice, as well as the chance meeting that led to two pivotal stories brought to light by The Australian. Content warning that this episode could be triggering for some listeners. Resources: Link t...

May 25, 202239 min
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