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Uncover: Calls From a Killer

What does a reporter do when they receive a cold call from one of the most horrific serial killers in Canadian history?


The killer: Clifford Olson, who murdered at least eleven children in the 1980s. The reporter: Arlene Bynon, who recorded her jailhouse calls with Olson for years.


Alongside legendary journalist Peter Worthington, Arlene spent hundreds of hours on the phone with Olson. It was kept secret from his prison guards; he wasn't allowed to speak to the media.


In Calls From a Killer, from CBC’s Uncover, Arlene unearths secrets that have been buried for decades. 


Secrets about Olson's crimes, about how police failed his young victims and their families — and why law enforcement paid a psychopathic serial killer $100,000. 


With Nathaniel Frum — Peter's grandson — Arlene exposes hard truths about a forgotten tragedy, a bungled investigation, the loved ones left behind, and the mind of a killer. 


About UNCOVER: Crime. Investigation. Revelation. Uncover brings you explosive, high-caliber true crime year-round. From CIA mind control to serial abuse, mysterious disappearances to wrongful imprisonment. Each season features a new host who is deeply connected to the story, committed to tracking down the truth. With over 30 seasons to choose from, Uncover represents the best in true crime.


For early access to episodes, plus ad-free listening, visit apple.co/cbctruecrime.

Episodes

S21 E6: It's Complicated | "The No Good, Terribly Kind, Wonderful Lives and Tragic Deaths of Barry and Honey Sherman"

The lack of justice, or any resolution, has left a void in this story that has been filled by online sleuths, investigative reporters, nosey neighbours, and conspiracy theorists. From Covid to the Clintons. From family to the Mafia. With more than a dozen theories on the table, and little information from the police, is it any wonder this case remains constant fodder for the darkest corners of the internet? For transcripts of this series, please visit here . Websleuths Snopes Corrina Oates’ Sleu...

Jun 26, 202333 minSeason 21Ep. 6

S21 E7: My Blood is Yours | "The No Good, Terribly Kind, Wonderful Lives and Tragic Deaths of Barry and Honey Sherman"

After a notorious 2018 interview on CBC television, Kerry Winter became a familiar figure in the tale of the Shermans’ deaths. “The Cousin Did It” wasn’t just a snappy headline on the cover of The National Enquirer, it also became a favourite theory. Yet Kerry is not a suspect. And all these years later the humiliation, anger, and deep sadness Kerry feels towards his cousin Barry are still right on the surface. How did such a good thing go so bad, and why is Kerry so certain Barry killed Honey t...

Jun 26, 202342 minSeason 21Ep. 7

S21 E8: Thin Lines | "The No Good, Terribly Kind, Wonderful Lives and Tragic Deaths of Barry and Honey Sherman"

After our year-long investigation, in this final episode we revisit the murder/suicide theory. That misstep set the whole investigation off on the wrong foot, and might have derailed any chance of finding out who killed the Shermans. To the Sherman's children, it's one of the biggest police screw-ups in recent history – a botched job that muddled the truth and stained the family. But the theory hangs in the air because its adherents, especially Kerry Winter, aren’t budging. In the end, what is t...

Jun 26, 202334 minSeason 21Ep. 8

Bonus: The Set from Audacy Originals

It’s the crack era.The most violent time in New York City history. The NYPD is fighting a losing battle and instead of protecting the city from drug dealers, some police officers have become them. This is the never-before told, first-person documentary of the biggest police corruption scandal in NYPD history and the investigation that uncovered it all. From Audacy Originals and Zak Levitt, the Emmy, Peabody, and NY Press Club Investigative Journalism Award winning creator of Root ofEvil, Gangste...

Jun 15, 20235 min

Introducing: The Africas VS. America

To those that remember, it’s known simply as the bombing of West Philly. In the spring of 1985, the City of Philadelphia became the first in U.S. history to drop a bomb on a family of American citizens. The attack killed 11 people, including five children, and the ensuing fire set a neighborhood to ruins. The targets that day? A family of Black radicals known collectively as MOVE, who found themselves ensnared in a city — and nation’s — domestic war on Black Liberation. Over seven episodes, host...

May 01, 20234 min

S20 "The Africas VS. America" E1: Mother's Day

In the early hours of May 13, 1985, police direct residents of Osage Avenue in West Philadelphia to leave their homes, and not return for 24 hours. It’s Mother’s Day, and authorities have come to resolve a years-long conflict with a family of local revolutionaries — the Africas, collectively known as MOVE. There are 13 people in the Africa home that morning. Six of them are children. By the end of the day, most will be dead, and a neighbourhood will lie in ruins. The Africas VS. America is nomin...

May 01, 202352 minSeason 20Ep. 1

S20 "The Africas VS. America" E2: The Making of John Africa (GI John)

A quiet and reclusive young man is conscripted to war in Korea and returns having been made anew. Vincent Leaphart becomes the enigmatic John Africa, whose revolutionary vision will prove irresistible to followers seeking a new way of living. But what begins as a movement concerned with the protection of all life, will gradually turn to nonviolent direct action and large-scale civil disobedience in reaction to the state. This is the origin story of John Africa, leader of what will soon become kn...

May 01, 202354 minSeason 20Ep. 2

S20 "The Africas VS. America" E3: The Toughest Cop in America

By the 1970s, both local and federal law enforcement have perfected a system to subvert and neutralize Black liberation movements across the United States. The civil rights movement has been uprooted, and Black Power is now here. In Philadelphia, the most famous police officer in America is elected mayor. Frank Rizzo’s objective is to turn the city into centre stage in the nationwide fight against Black liberation activists. His power and influence will have deep implications for MOVE. The Afric...

May 01, 202351 minSeason 20Ep. 3

S20 "The Africas VS. America" E4: The Commissioner’s Gambit

Complaints from neighbours about MOVE’s lifestyle lead to increasingly violent clashes with police. One confrontation turns deadly, and by 1978, relations between MOVE and city authorities have reached a crisis point. The MOVE home in residential Powelton Village becomes the scene of a two-months-long starvation blockade, and the site of a stand-off with police that will end in blood, gunfire, and the arrest of nine members of MOVE, collectively charged with murder for the death of an officer. T...

May 01, 202358 minSeason 20Ep. 4

S20 "The Africas VS. America" E5: The System on Trial

The MOVE 9 are catapulted into the international spotlight, facing more than 900 years between them for the death of Officer James Ramp — a crime for which they maintain their innocence. Central to the case is a former Black Panther and Vietnam vet named Delbert Africa, who will become a symbol of police brutality in Philadelphia. As all of this is happening, MOVE’s mysterious leader John Africa is on the run from local and federal authorities. When he’s finally found and brought up on charges, ...

May 01, 202359 minSeason 20Ep. 5

S20 "The Africas VS. America" E6: Hellfire

In 1983, the City of Philadelphia elects its first Black mayor as successor to Frank Rizzo. Woodrow Wilson Goode inherits Rizzo’s fight against MOVE, but he also represents a moment of hope for Black Philadelphians who believe his election could be a harbinger of progress for a city beset with racial strife. Instead, Mayor Goode’s administration unleashes a torrent of violence never before seen in American history in an effort to neutralize MOVE once and for all. The Africas VS. America is nomin...

May 01, 20231 hr 6 minSeason 20Ep. 6

S20 "The Africas VS. America" E7: Elegy

After a commission finds that city officials and police were negligent in their actions on May 13, 1985, a reeling city looks to heal, and surviving members of the Africa family redouble efforts to free the MOVE 9. Two senior members are released from prison having served more than 40 years. They now have reservations about the MOVE organization. A rift in the family opens up. By the end of 2020, all remaining MOVE 9 are free. Delbert dies only months after his release, and the family now turns ...

May 01, 20231 hr 5 minSeason 20Ep. 7

S20: Why & how Matthew Amha chose to tell the story of MOVE — On stage at Hot Docs

In this live discussion from the Hot Docs festival, Africas VS. America host Matthew Amha joins Falen Johnson on stage to speak about the stories journalists choose to tell — and how they tell them. He reflects on the personal cost of infusing his own experiences into his journalism, and how he navigated the MOVE organization’s historically fraught relationship with the media.

May 01, 202314 minSeason 20Ep. 8

S19: "Run, Hide, Repeat" E1: Don't Tell

It’s 1971 and Ruth Dakin is going through a messy divorce and fears for the future of her young children, Pauline and Ted. She meets Stan Sears, a United Church Minister, a man who offered comfort and safe harbour. But the encounter would change her life – and the lives of her children – forever. For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/run-hide-repeat-transcripts-listen-1.6682766 Soon, odd, unexplained things start to happen and the young family is sudd...

Feb 13, 202333 minSeason 19Ep. 1

S19: "Run, Hide, Repeat" E2: On The Run

Now a teenager living in Saint John, the secrecy and unexplained moves wear Pauline down. Eventually she graduates and starts a career in journalism thinking she can start to live a normal life. That changes in February 1988 when her mother Ruth says she’s finally ready to tell Pauline everything. For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/run-hide-repeat-transcripts-listen-1.6682766 Sitting alongside Stan, Ruth’s secret shocks Pauline. Pauline realizes he...

Feb 13, 202336 minSeason 19Ep. 2

S19: "Run, Hide, Repeat" E3: The Weird World

Based on her mother and Stan’s stunning revelations, Pauline and her brother Ted start sifting through their childhood memories and matching them to the once unexplained events. Stan and Ruth, now openly a couple, are going deep undercover — and they want Pauline to join them. Pauline must choose between joining her mother in the unknown and leaving behind everyone else she loves in the world she knows. For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/run-hide-r...

Feb 13, 202355 minSeason 19Ep. 3

S19: "Run, Hide, Repeat" E4: Saving Mom

Pauline is struggling with doubts — the details of her family’s secret seem outrageous. But why would Stan and her mother lie to her? Pauline sets up a sting to find out once and for all if Stan and Ruth are telling the truth. And what she discovers changes her relationship with Ruth forever. Pauline, desperate to reconcile what Ruth has done to her, turns to understanding her mom’s troubled past. For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/run-hide-repeat-...

Feb 13, 202342 minSeason 19Ep. 4

S19: "Run, Hide, Repeat" E5: Stan's World

Pauline sets out to understand Stan’s mind and motives. She meets up with his son, John, who has some very strange stories of his own. And Pauline finally comes across a potential answer – something that could explain all of Stan's actions. But will it be enough to forgive him? For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/run-hide-repeat-transcripts-listen-1.6682766

Feb 13, 202352 minSeason 19Ep. 5

S18: "Pressure Cooker" E1: Project Souvenir

Police intercept two homegrown – and very peculiar – extremists intent on murder and mayhem at a national holiday festival. Pressure cooker bombs. Just like the Boston Marathon. But something about the official version of the story doesn’t add up. For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/pressure-cooker-transcripts-listen-1.6563380

Jan 13, 202335 minSeason 18Ep. 1

S18: "Pressure Cooker" E2: The Mysterious Uncle Abe

Meet the misfit suspects behind the foiled attack. Learn how they fell down a rabbit hole of conspiracy, hate and terror. And how they crossed paths with a mysterious financier who pledged to fund their diabolical plot. For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/pressure-cooker-transcripts-listen-1.6563380

Jan 13, 202348 minSeason 18Ep. 2

S18: "Pressure Cooker" E3: Point of No Return

John and Amanda’s struggles with addiction complicate their fledgling plot. Will these oddballs be able to pull off an attack? Police spending escalates as Project Souvenir gets more elaborate by the day. For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/pressure-cooker-transcripts-listen-1.6563380

Jan 13, 202351 minSeason 18Ep. 3

S18: "Pressure Cooker" E4: Ticking Time Bombs

John and Amanda are losing their grip on reality, frustrating Abe and his shadowy accomplices. John has doubts and asks for spiritual guidance from an imam, but time is running out as zero hour approaches. For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/pressure-cooker-transcripts-listen-1.6563380

Jan 13, 202353 minSeason 18Ep. 4

S18: "Pressure Cooker" E5: Trapped

John and Amanda piece together their shattered reality while facing a possible lifetime in prison. As the full picture of Project Souvenir emerges in court, they start to wonder if the deception goes even deeper. For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/pressure-cooker-transcripts-listen-1.6563380

Jan 13, 202355 minSeason 18Ep. 5

S18: "Pressure Cooker" Bonus: Finding Kaz

A mystery lingers about what role Canada's spy agency may have played in John and Amanda's case. The puzzling character known as Kaz could be the key to solving that mystery.

Jan 13, 202335 minSeason 18Ep. 6

S17: "The Kill List" E1: Death of an Icon

A leading human rights activist is found dead. Many immediately suspect murder. The assassinations of dissidents like her have become commonplace in Pakistan. But Karima Baloch's body was discovered off the shores of Toronto, the city where she fled for her life. For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/the-kill-list-transcripts-listen-1.6514561

Dec 22, 202251 minSeason 17Ep. 1

S17: "The Kill List" E2: A Death in Sweden

Months before Karima’s death, another prominent Baloch dissident is found drowned in a river in Sweden. Sajid Hussain had also fled Pakistan to start a new life in safety. His death bears a striking resemblance to Karima’s. Could the two be connected? For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/the-kill-list-transcripts-listen-1.6514561

Dec 22, 202243 minSeason 17Ep. 2

S17: "The Kill List" E3: The Dissident Club

Mary meets those who have been told they are on a kill list. Exiles from Pakistan have sought safety through the Western world. But do they remain in danger, no matter how far they flee? For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/the-kill-list-transcripts-listen-1.6514561

Dec 22, 202247 minSeason 17Ep. 3

S17: "The Kill List" E4: ‘I am not a terrorist’

We learn about Karima’s final days from those closest to her, including a man who’s finally ready to speak. After escaping death in Pakistan, what evidence is there that Karima may have taken her own life? For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/the-kill-list-transcripts-listen-1.6514561

Dec 22, 202259 minSeason 17Ep. 4

S17: "The Kill List" E5: Living Ghosts

We follow Karima’s dramatic return to Balochistan — where even in death, she’s considered a threat. And hear from those in her homeland still willing to risk their lives by speaking out. For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/the-kill-list-transcripts-listen-1.6514561

Dec 22, 20221 hr 4 minSeason 17Ep. 5
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