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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szepsdm.org.au

The world has never been more connected. Yet never more divided. We yell at each other from inside our echo chambers. But change doesn’t happen inside an echo chamber. It’s time to get out, to stretch our legs, to step on some land mines. It's time to have an uncomfortable conversation with Josh Szeps.

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Episodes

“Conspiracies, Echo Chambers & Culture Wars” with Sacha Judd

The internet is a dumpster fire. Are you a firefighter? Or an arsonist? This episode is a cracker. Sacha Judd is an expert on internet subcultures. A former lawyer, she has become something like “the Mark Cuban of New Zealand” - a smart, left-wing investor in high-growth startups; advisor to businesses; and fierce commentator on Big Tech. Sacha wants to bring back the “good internet”: a place fueled by genuine community, creativity, and connection. She and Josh wrestle wi...

May 05, 20252 hr 44 min

PREVIEW: Nobel Peace Prize Winner Dave Sweeney

Do nuclear weapons protect Western civilisation? Or are they an insane error that humanity should undo? Is nuclear power worth the cost and risk? Dave Sweeney co-founded the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (ICAN), which won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2017. Dave and Josh debate the risks and rewards of nuclear weapons and nuclear power in an unstable world, and discuss whether environmentalism is antithetical to progress.  To hear every bit of this fascinating, two-hour-plus ...

May 02, 202550 minSeason 1Ep. 340

BONUS: "Indigenous Land Acknowledgement Furore" with Tyson Yunkaporta

Have indigenous Welcomes-to-Country gone too far? On Friday, far-right hecklers disrupted the Welcome to Country (i.e. the land acknowledgment, in North American parlance) of a profound Australian national event, the Anzac Day Dawn Service. The protest has sparked a national firestorm about race, racism and remembrance. Josh shares his thoughts about the coverage of the controversy, and then debates its deeper implications with the Indigenous scholar Tyson Yunkaporta. Watch this conversation on ...

May 01, 20251 hr 12 min

"Facebook Whistleblower" Frances Haugen

What’s social media doing to us, and how would you fix it? Mark Zuckerberg has been a busy boy on the witness stand in Washington DC lately. In one of the most consequential antitrust cases in tech history, Meta is being sued by the U.S. government for allegedly maintaining a monopoly. It could reshape the future of social media, privacy regulation, and Big Tech. But in an ideal world, how would you reform social media? How might we prevent it from deranging us? Frances Haugen worked at Go...

Apr 28, 20251 hr 14 minSeason 1Ep. 339

"American Authoritarianism" with Matt Welch

What do you make of a U.S. government that snatches people off the street and disappears them into Central American prisons, forever, with no trial, and no way to appeal? Matt Welch is a libertarian journalist. He's no wild-eyed, Trump-loathing leftie. Fresh off the back of his appearance on Bill Maher, Matt joined Josh on Josh's streaming TV show, Szeps Live, to riff about Elon, DOGE, government effectiveness, abundance liberalism, high-speed rail, Orbán, Erdoğan, el Salvador, the Suprem...

Apr 24, 20251 hr 25 minSeason 1Ep. 338

“Reimagining Schooling” with Finnish education icon Prof. Pasi Sahlberg

What's the purpose of school? Why do we run schools the way we do? How might we reinvent education in an era of artificial intelligence and ADHD? Professor Pasi Sahlberg is one of the world's leading education experts. He ran Finland’s Ministry of Education and Culture, moved to Washington DC to advise the World Bank on education, and was a visiting professor at Harvard University. His award-winning book is "Finnish Lessons: What can the world learn from educational change in Finland?" Pas...

Apr 21, 20252 hr 48 minSeason 1Ep. 337

PREVIEW: "What Can Democrats Do?" with David Pakman

The Democratic Party is paralysed. It can't merely offer resistance to Trump. It also needs to offer an alternative to him. But how? Should they oppose his every move, as the likes of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Senator Cory Booker believe? Or should they shut up and wait for the president to doom himself, as Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer and former Clinton consultant James Carville prefer? How have Democrats fallen... and what can they do now? David Pakman is the guy Josh...

Apr 17, 202520 minSeason 1Ep. 336

“Decoding the Gurus” with Chris Kavanagh and Matt Browne

When are independent shows like Uncomfortable Conversations serving a useful purpose... and when are they just preaching to the choir? "Decoding the Gurus" is a podcast that dissects how new-media personalities gain guru status. Frequently, such podcasters claim to be bravely challenging the status quo... while comfortably pandering to their team. Is Josh such a hack? Josh is in Tokyo visiting one of the Decoding hosts, Chris, who lives there. The three of them caught up to record this crossover...

Apr 14, 20251 hr 19 minSeason 1Ep. 335

Anthony Bourdain’s “Lieutenant”, Laurie Woolever

Anthony Bourdain was Josh's hero. Laurie Woolever was, as Bourdain called her, his "lieutenant". A writer and culinary graduate, Laurie had worked for another gigantic cooking celebrity, Mario Batali, before he was brought down for alleged sexual harrassment. She spent almost ten years as Bourdain's right-hand-gal. The two of them wrote two books together, one of which they were halfway through when Bourdain died by suicide in 2018. Laurie posthumously published "Bourdain: The Definitive Oral Bi...

Apr 10, 20251 hr 11 minSeason 1Ep. 334

PREVIEW: "What Is the 'Patriarchy'?" with Prof. Cordelia Fine

Do males and females differ in what we want out of life? In what jobs we want to do? In how much we want to look after babies, or run a tech start-up, or sweep the living room, or be a CEO? Or are biological preferences just an excuse to justify inequality? Cordelia Fine is a feminist academic who studies scientific explanations of sex differences and workplace inequality. Her books on gender have won prizes at the Royal Society, been recommended by the Sunday Times, and cited as among the Top T...

Apr 07, 202539 minSeason 1Ep. 333

JUST JOSH: The Woke Catastrophe of “Snow White”

If you want to see what's wrong with not being offensive, watch Snow White. The new Disney re-make is so committed to not offending anyone that it’s a social-justice jumble. Snow White isn’t white as snow; her love interest isn’t a prince; the dwarves aren’t “dwarves”; but there IS a dwarf in a non-dwarf role; Snow White doesn’t need a man; the man doesn’t “stalk” her; she’s a bad-ass independent gal; the word “dwarf” ...

Apr 03, 202529 minSeason 1Ep. 332

BOB CARR on Diplomacy, Statesmanship and Grief

Even if you're not Australian, you want to listen to this conversation with one of the nation's most iconic statesmen. Bob Carr is a former foreign minister of Australia (i.e. the secretary of state) and, before that, the longest-continuously-serving Premier of NSW, Australia's most populous state. He's an intellectual powerhouse, an icolonoclast, a champion debater, a student of American history, of geopolitics and of diplomacy. For the first portion of this conversation, he and Josh discuss Au...

Mar 31, 20252 hr 41 minSeason 1Ep. 331

PREVIEW: “Does Ukraine Still Matter?" with correspondent Misha Zelinsky

What are Trump and Putin cooking up for Ukraine? Can the Europeans sideline it? What options does Ukraine still have on the table? And does any of this really matter to non-Europeans any more? This week, the ceasefire talks that President Trump boasted he'd wrap up in 24 hours fell apart, again. Russia says it wants an end to the war, if Ukraine effectively surrenders. Trump now admits Putin might be "dragging his feet". Misha Zelinsky lived in Ukraine for the first year of the war, reporting fr...

Mar 27, 202539 minSeason 1Ep. 330

Australia’s Shadow Treasurer, Angus Taylor

Angus Taylor is the Shadow Treasurer of Australia and a key figure of the Opposition, the centre-right Liberal Party. A former cabinet minister, businessman and Rhodes scholar, he's often discussed as a future prime minister. Opinion polls put his party's return to power in the May election as a 50/50 bet. Josh sat down with the Shadow Treasurer to discuss innovation, productivity, nuclear power, and how annoying it is to do your taxes. Watch this conversation on YouTube . And you’re missi...

Mar 24, 20251 hr 7 minSeason 1Ep. 329

PREVIEW: "Two Jews Debate Israel" with Antony Loewenstein

How should moderate, secular Jews feel about Israel? How brutalising must Israel’s Gaza policy be before more Jews denounce it? Is Israel a well-intentioned country hijacked by right-wing leaders from its true purpose of peace? Or is it intrinsically committed to destroying Palestinians? Was a Jewish ethno-state a mistake from the start? Or is Israel an island of democracy in a sea of Islamist dysfunction?   No group debates these questions more vehemently than Jews themselves. After ...

Mar 20, 202541 minSeason 1Ep. 328

JOHN McWHORTER: Language, Race & Trump

John McWhorter is arguably the world’s most famous linguist. A professor at Columbia University and a columnist for the New York Times, he alternately enrages the right and the left as an anti-Trump, anti-woke, Black academic. John and Josh sat down in Sydney to discuss gay slang, the Trumpist right, Black provocateurs and “serving c***t”. Watch this conversation on YouTube . And you’re missing out on our best ad-free content if you haven’t popped over to the Uncomf...

Mar 17, 20251 hr 26 minSeason 1Ep. 327

"Why Greenland Matters" with Sherri Goodman

When Trump floated the idea of the U.S. acquiring Greenland, some called it a random brain fart. But there is a real conversation among security experts about control of the Arctic in the 21st century. As climate change opens up new avenues for shipping, spying, mining, submarining and warfare, the far North Atlantic matters more and more. Sherri Goodman was the Pentagon's chief environmental officer in the Clinton Administration. Her specific expertise is in the polar regions, Russian nuclear s...

Mar 13, 202542 minSeason 1Ep. 326

BONUS: Josh on Israel-Palestine Coverage

Last week, Arab leaders gathered in Egypt for a Palestine Summit. The 22-nation Arab League emerged with a re-energised Arab Peace Initiative to solve the Israel-Palestinian Conflict once and for all. Australia's largest and most trusted news organisation, the ABC, covered the event in an article entitled "This Plan Would End the Israel-Palestinian Conflict, But Israel Doesn't Like It" . Josh has thoughts. This is a recording of an episode of Szeps Live, a weekly Substack Video Livestream. ...

Mar 12, 20251 hr 21 min

"Trump, Gaza & Liberalism" with Senator Dave Sharma

Australians go to the polls in a few months. It looks surprisingly grim for the first-term, centre-left Labor government of Prime Minister Anthony Albanese. As part of Uncomfortable Conversations' election coverage, Josh invited a select handful of prominent politicians who are likely to be the most interesting figures for listeners from all over the world to enjoy. Senator Dave Sharma is one of them. He's a member of the Opposition centre-right Liberal Party. He was a member of the Australian H...

Mar 10, 202559 minSeason 1Ep. 325

"The Next Canadian PM” with Jen Gerson

Justin Trudeau's political career will end this weekend when his replacement is elected as the Canadian Liberal leader. This happens at a moment of extraordinary uncertainty for Canadians. As the U.S. launches a painful trade war, Canadians are being forced to rethink their economic and strategic future. What's going on up there? Who are the candidates you need to know? How do they perceive the Trump tariffs? Jen Gerson is a writer who worked for the Economist, Toronto Star and The Globe and Mai...

Mar 06, 20251 hr 14 minSeason 1Ep. 324

"Hate Speech or Free Speech?" with Prof. Alan Davison

Perhaps the most dangerous idea is what to do about dangerous ideas. A spate of anti-semitic attacks has led to new laws that will punish Australians for "hate speech". But are hate-speech laws a band-aid over deeper problems like ethnic bigotry, religious conservatism, historical ignorance, social media, migrant integration, university bias, and Islamism - problems which may have been addressed if we'd spoken more openly about them in the first place? That's the argument of Professor Alan ...

Mar 03, 20252 hr 16 minSeason 1Ep. 323

“Chinese War Games” with Sam Roggeveen

Sam Roggeveen discusses Australia's strategic posture amidst China's rise, the complexities of the Australia-US alliance, and the implications of AUKUS. He argues for a stoic foreign policy, emphasizing resilience and strategic depth over aggressive confrontation, while also exploring the dynamics of global power shifts and the challenges facing medium-sized countries.

Feb 27, 20252 hr 44 minSeason 1Ep. 322

PREVIEW: "Rogue Fentanyl Chemists" with Ben Westhoff

Imagine posing as a drug dealer and going undercover into a Chinese drug lab. That's what Ben Westhoff did to report on how fentanyl -- which kills about 75,000 Americans every year -- gets made. Will Trump's crackdowns at the Mexican border stanch the flow? Why are other rich countries less affected by opioids? How did fentanyl cause the worst drug crisis in American history. Is the problem getting any better? Ben is a best-selling investigative journalist who's written about the fentanyl crisi...

Feb 24, 202540 minSeason 1Ep. 321

"The Great Aussie Rort" with Punter's Politics

Varied are the ways in which political parties, media moguls and corporations screw you. One man who stands up to them all -- or who at least makes funny, informative, viral videos explaining their shenanigans -- is the phenomenon known as "Punters Politics" . Millions of Aussies devour his Instagram and YouTube videos to learn how the system is ripping us off. Why is there a revolving door between politicians and the industries they regulate? What does Norway do that we should, too? And what do...

Feb 20, 20251 hr 16 minSeason 1Ep. 320

PREMIUM: "The Fallacy of Productivity" with Oliver Burkeman

Productivity tips. Life hacks. Calendar apps. Magic mornings. Brain supplements.   None of it will free you from the sense that there's more to do than you possibly can. That's because you're finite. Your time is finite, your focus is finite, and you're going to die. No productivity hack can change that.   It's a liberating idea, if you look at it the way Oliver Burkeman does. Oliver was the second-ever guest on this podcast, at the height of the Covid pandemic, to discuss how to ignor...

Feb 17, 202539 minSeason 1Ep. 320

PREVIEW: Oct. 7th Survivor Natalie Sanandaji

Natalie is a Jewish Iranian-American who grew up in New York. She was partying at the Nova Music Festival in Israel when Hamas attacked. Today, she uses her experience to advocate for the Combat Antisemitism Movement. She and Josh discuss Gaza, the Israeli occupation, hatred, love... and her experiences that day. To get more content like this and to join in the fun of the Uncomfy Convos multiverse, hit the Substack page at https://uncomfortableconversations.substack.com/subscribe http://youtube....

Feb 13, 20251 hr 15 minSeason 1Ep. 319

“Gay Sex on Stage” with Tony nominee Samuel Barnett & Marcelo Dos Santos

What's it like being a promiscuous young gay guy in the 2020s? How much freedom is there in random sex from hookup apps, versus how much shame? Do social conservatives have a point when they say fidelity and monogamy are the best model for life? The producer of "Fleabag" and "Baby Reindeer" -- both humongous British TV shows which started as one-person stage shows at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival -- has a new one-person stage show about a gay Brit looking for love. "Feeling Afraid As If Somethin...

Feb 10, 20251 hr 12 minSeason 1Ep. 318

Josh on Trump on Gaza

President Trump says the United States should take over the Gaza Strip and relocate its two million residents to neighbouring countries while we redevelop Gaza into the "Riviera of the Middle East." Josh has thoughts. To get more content like this and to join in the fun of the Uncomfy Convos multiverse, hit the Substack page at Subscribe to Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps Josh Szeps on YouTube 𝕁𝕠𝕤𝕙 𝕊𝕫𝕖𝕡𝕤 (@joshzepps) on X Instagram (@joshszeps) Josh Szeps on TikTok...

Feb 06, 202535 minSeason 1Ep. 317

"American Oddities" with David Farrier

Why do Americans use shower curtains instead of glass shower stalls? How do you explain the success of The Olive Garden? And is Los Angeles really as foul as Josh claims? David Farrier is a New Zealand documentarian living in L.A., where his whimsical podcast Flightless Bird is produced by Dax Shepard’s Armchair Expert production company. David premiered at the Sundance Film Festival with his extraordinary feature-length documentary, Tickled , and is a frequent collaborator with Flight of ...

Feb 03, 20251 hr 13 minSeason 1Ep. 316

Josh on Trump on Gender

How well is the legacy media covering President Trump's flurry of executive actions? Among the first deluge of White House orders is a decree defining "sex", "gender", "male" and "female". The reporting on this order -- and on LGBT and gender issues more broadly -- tells us a lot about ideological echo chambers, newsroom diversity, and how not to have constructive conversations in an era when they're more necessary than ever.

Jan 31, 202553 minSeason 1Ep. 315