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Unchained

Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how crypto assets and blockchains will change the way we earn, spend and invest our money. Tune in to find out how Web 3.0, the decentralized web, will revolutionize our world. Disclosure: I'm a nocoiner.

Episodes

$630M Due Next Week: Is DCG at Default Risk? - Ep. 489

The Genesis bankruptcy is about to take a high-stakes turn with a $630 million payment from Digital Currency Group (DCG) due by May 11. Barry Silbert’s DCG, the parent company of Genesis, is on the hook for the massive payment, but doubts are swirling as to whether the crypto conglomerate can cover it. Lumida Wealth CEO Ram Ahluwalia joins the show to unpack what could happen to Genesis creditors, Gemini Earn users, and the markets should DCG fail to cover its debt obligations. Listen to the epi...

May 05, 202346 minEp. 489

Do You Need to Think Twice Before Restaking Your Assets? - Ep. 488

In this episode, Sreeram Kannan, founder of EigenLayer, and Konstantin Lomashuk, cofounder of Lido Finance, discuss the complex world of staking in Ethereum's post-Shanghai ecosystem. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how the staking ecosystem in Ethereum looks after the full completion of the Merge what EigenLayer is and why it'...

May 02, 20231 hr 10 minEp. 488

The Chopping Block: Why Are We Still Building Layer 1s? - Ep. 487

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news in digital assets. In this live episode from Consensus 2023, they are joined by Avery Ching, chief architect of Aptos, to discuss the latest SEC enforcement actions, an embarrasing admission by audit firm Certik, and crypto’s impact on the coming election. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox,...

Apr 29, 202346 minEp. 487

Coinbase's Legal Action Against the SEC: How It Will Likely Unfold - Ep. 486

Major crypto exchange Coinbase has decided to take action to get an answer from the Securities and Exchange Commission: this week, they filed a court action seeking to compel Gary Gensler’s agency to give specific rulemaking on crypto assets. J.W. Verret, associate professor of law at George Mason Law School, talks about how both parties are playing this game, how it could change the Howey test, and much more. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Cas...

Apr 28, 202339 minEp. 486

Gary Gensler vs. Crypto: What Will the SEC Attack Next? - Ep. 485

Two lawyers, Josh Klayman, head of digital assets at Linklaters, and Marc Boiron, chief legal officer at Polygon Labs, offer their takes on the SEC’s recent crypto crackdown. They share what they heard from SEC Chair Gary Gensler’s Congressional testimony, whether this crackdown was inevitable or sparked by FTX, and why a proposed change to the definition of an exchange could be an existential threat for DeFi in the U.S. Show highlights: what Gary Gensler’s approach to crypto was when he took of...

Apr 25, 20231 hr 14 minEp. 485

The Chopping Block: Are Layer 2s Stealing Ethereum’s Thunder? - Ep. 484

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Robert Leshner, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, the gang plays “guess the chart” and takes a deep dive into the booming world of Ethereum Layer 2s. Show highlights: how much Layer 2s are spending to post data to Ethereum whether L2s suck up all the value of ETH the challenge of providing a good user experience across multiple rollups how the underlying technology of security i...

Apr 22, 20231 hrEp. 484

‘Is ETH a Security?’ Why Gary Gensler Couldn’t Give Congress a Straight Answer - Ep. 483

It got heated this week on Capitol Hill with SEC Chair Gary Gensler testifying before the House Financial Services Committee on his agency’s efforts to rein in the U.S. crypto industry. Jason Gottlieb, partner at Morrison Cohen, unpacks what was said and whether we’ll continue to see more crackdowns from the U.S. securities regulator. Show highlights: Whether ETH is a security and what would be the impact if it was declared as such by the SEC Whether the SEC is harming investors What the potenti...

Apr 21, 202340 minEp. 483

Why MEV Will Always Be Controversial - Ep. 482

Maximal extractable value, or MEV, is a mainstay of the Ethereum landscape. But the process of validators reaping profits from handling new blocks is not without controversy. Ethereum Foundation researcher Justin Drake and bloXroute Labs CEO Uri Klarman assess the current state of MEV. Hear them disagree about the path forward for making Ethereum fairer for all its economic actors. Show highlights: what MEV is and how it has evolved over time the nuances of the newly proposed MEV Blocker and why...

Apr 18, 20231 hr 10 minEp. 482

The Chopping Block: Are VCs Bad for Crypto? - Ep. 481

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, they’re joined by Unchained’s Laura Shin to debate FTX revival rumors, what the U.S. Treasury got wrong about DeFi, and whether VCs are antithetical to crypto’s core principles. Show highlights: how much ETH is getting unstaked and deposited after Shapella the market reaction following the successful implementation of the upgrade whether FTX c...

Apr 15, 20231 hr 6 minEp. 481

Laura’s 10-Year Anniversary of Self-Employment: A Personal Message

Laura’s 10-Year Anniversary of Self-Employment: A Personal Message Laura Shin, the host of Unchained, celebrated her 10-year anniversary of self-employment on Wednesday, April 12. She tells her story and has a message that she hopes will help others on their journeys. Links: Original Twitter thread Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 15, 202315 min

Shapella in the Rearview: After Major Upgrade, What’s Next for Ethereum? - Ep. 480

This week’s major Ethereum upgrade, Shapella (it was really two upgrades, Shanghai and Capella, in one), brings the network’s multi-year journey to proof-of-stake to a close. With validator withdrawals now live, the Ethereum Foundation’s Tim Beiko explains Shapella’s significance, why EIP-4844 is the next big thing, and what else is on Ethereum’s roadmap. Show highlights: how Ethereum transitioned from a proof-of-work consensus mechanism to proof-of-stake what the concerns about enabling withdra...

Apr 14, 202343 minEp. 480

Are DAOs Strong Enough to Survive the Regulators? - Ep. 479

How can decentralized autonomous organizations (DAOs) be more resilient? Gabriel Shapiro, general counsel at Delphi Labs, and Fatemeh Fannizadeh, lawyer and researcher at Geneva-legal.ch, survey the landscape and offer their insights on what will fuel the next wave of DAO innovation. Are new rules from U.S. states like Wyoming and Utah a boon for DAO creation? Or will the proceedings against Ooki DAO by U.S. regulators cast a pall on this emerging segment of the Web3 world? Show highlights: how ...

Apr 11, 20231 hr 18 minEp. 479

Rep. Emmer on Why He Believes Gary Gensler Is a ‘Bad-Faith Regulator’ - Ep. 478

Amidst a wide-ranging crackdown on all kinds of crypto players, Representative Tom Emmer talks about recent enforcement actions, the classification of cryptocurrencies as securities or commodities, the potential impact of US regulatory actions on the country’s global economic power, and the Federal Reserve's upcoming payment system. He touches on the importance of innovation and entrepreneurship in the crypto industry and the role of government in fostering these developments. Show highlights: w...

Apr 07, 202340 minEp. 478

The Chopping Block: Is Ether the Only ‘Organic Yield’ in Crypto? - Ep. 477

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, they are joined by Laura Shin, author, journalist, and host of Unchained, to discuss the drama around the Arbitrum governance’s proposal, the MEV attack on Ethereum, the Shanghai upgrade… and much more! Show highlights: what the intentions behind Arbitrum Foundation's ratification poll were why Tarun says that it was suggested by a crypto lawyer w...

Apr 06, 202356 minEp. 477

Is the Government Trying to Kill Off Crypto in the US? - Ep. 476

Brian Quintenz, head of policy for a16z crypto, and Nic Carter, general partner at Castle Island Ventures, talk about Operation Choke Point 2.0, the relationship between the government and the crypto industry, the status of different tokens as securities or commodities, and potential future developments in the space Show highlights: what the original Operation Choke Point was like the "evidence" that shows that Operation Choke Point 2.0 against crypto is real, according to Nic how hard it is for...

Apr 04, 20231 hr 14 minEp. 476

Why the CFTC Case Against Binance Will Have Very Important Consequences for Crypto - Ep. 475

In this episode, Austin Campbell, a professor at Columbia Business School, discusses the recent allegations made by the CFTC against Binance, and whether or not criminal charges will be brought against company officers such as CEO Changpeng Zhao, or CZ, or former Chief Compliance Officer Samuel Lim. He also sheds light on how this case could shape which agency will have regulatory authority over crypto assets. Show highlights: what the CFTC's allegations against Binance are whether Binance and i...

Mar 31, 202345 minEp. 475

The Chopping Block: Is This the Beginning of the End for Binance? - Ep. 474

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, they discuss Binance's recent regulatory issues, the potential impact on the crypto markets, the CFTC's stance on tokens, and also touch on Do Kwon's arrest and Hong Kong's approach to crypto regulation. Show highlights: whether the chief compliance officer of Binance was aware of how the exchange was evading compliance how the C...

Mar 30, 20231 hr 6 minEp. 474

Why Zero-Knowledge Proofs Are Critical to Ethereum’s Future - Ep. 473

In this episode, Stanford cryptography professor Dan Boneh and a16z General Partner Ali Yahya elevate our knowledge of zero-knowledge proofs and their applications in the blockchain world. Listen as they dive into the intricacies of succinct proof systems, the difference between SNARKs and STARKs, the magic of recursive SNARKs, and why zero-knowledge systems are essential to the evolution of Ethereum. Show highlights: how Ali became a general partner at a16z Crypto and why Dan started working on...

Mar 28, 20231 hr 11 minEp. 473

Coinbase’s Top Lawyer Calls SEC Wells Notice a ‘Massive Overreach’ - Ep. 472

Paul Grewal, Coinbase’s chief legal officer, shares his concerns about the SEC’s recent warning that it would pursue legal action against the crypto exchange. With the U.S. markets regulator failing to provide clear rules on digital assets, Grewal discusses the implications for Coinbase and for the future of crypto in the United States. Show highlights: why Grewal was not surprised by the Wells notice how Coinbase asked the SEC multiple times for clear rules and got no response, according to Gre...

Mar 24, 202340 minEp. 472

The Chopping Block: Why AI Will Change the Course of History in Crypto - Ep. 471

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. This week, NEAR co-founder and former Google AI researcher Illia Polosukhin joins the show to discuss the intersection of crypto and machine learning. Show highlights: whether Signature was shut down because of its crypto arm whether banking crypto is riskier than banking other industries how Balaji’s $1 million BTC bet is just highly effective marketing whether...

Mar 22, 20231 hr 21 minEp. 471

Why Caitlin Long and Meltem Demirors Are Worried About Crypto’s Future in the US - Ep. 470

Caitlin Long, founder and CEO of Custodia Bank, and Meltem Demirors, chief strategy officer of CoinShares, share their concerns about crypto in the U.S. following a wild week in the banking sector. With Signature Bank’s takeover looking like a targeted takedown and crypto-friendly upstarts like Custodia being shadowbanned by the Fed, the two longtime experts look ahead at the fights to come. Is USDC next to land in regulators’ crosshairs? Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcas...

Mar 21, 20231 hr 17 minEp. 470

Jim Bianco on Why the Banking System Has Always Been Broken - Ep. 469

Jim Bianco, president and macro strategist at Bianco Research, explains what’s causing the recent cascade of bank failures. Yield seekers taking their money elsewhere are putting banks under strain. However, the Signature Bank takeover by New York regulators is “a little fishy,” Bianco says. He adds that DeFi has been holding up strong, providing an “alternative to this unstable system that we have right now.” Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Cas...

Mar 17, 202346 minEp. 469

The Chopping Block: Was Crypto Just Debanked? - Ep. 468

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. This week: Silicon Valley Bank went belly up and knocked USDC off its peg with it. For good measure, Signature Bank was taken over by regulators. After a hellish weekend, what did we learn? Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your...

Mar 16, 20231 hr 6 minEp. 468

How Will ETH React to Ethereum’s Shanghai Upgrade? - Ep. 467

ETH staking began in December 2020. With Ethereum’s Shanghai upgrade, which could happen as early as mid-April, withdrawals of staked ETH will finally be enabled. Will validators rush to cash out? Or will Shanghai bring more institutional stakers into the fold? Christine Kim, VP of research at Galaxy Digital, joins the show to discuss how Etheruem’s latest upgrade will affect the network, and maybe even ETH’s price. Show highlights: how Christine became an Ethereum expert what you need to know a...

Mar 14, 20231 hr 2 minEp. 467

The Chopping Block: Arthur Hayes on Why Crypto Needs to Ditch the Banks - Ep. 466

BitMEX founder Arthur Hayes, fresh out of home confinement after settling charges with the U.S. government, joins “The Chopping Block” with Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, and Tarun Chitra. The early crypto pioneer pulls no punches in his assessment of SBF, TradFi’s failings, and how crypto traders lost the plot in trusting CeFi middlemen. Show highlights: why Arthur travels with stuffed animals, and what his favorite brands are what factors led Sam Bankman-Fried to success how Bill Clinton seem...

Mar 11, 202359 minEp. 466

Grayscale v. SEC: Who Won This Week’s Hearing? - Ep. 465

Elliott Stein, senior litigation analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence, shares his insights from a court hearing this week on the SEC’s rejection of Grayscale’s bid to convert GBTC into a spot bitcoin ETF. Stein says federal appellate court judges seemed skeptical of the SEC’s arguments for why bitcoin futures ETFs are OK while bitcoin spot ETFs aren’t. Who’s likely to win the case and what does it mean for the crypto industry as a whole? Show highlights: why Grayscale filed the lawsuit against the ...

Mar 10, 202337 minEp. 465

ETH Denver Debate: Should Testnet ETH Be Free or Have a Price? - Ep. 464

LayerZero launched a testnet bridge that allows users to swap mainnet ETH for Goerli ETH (GoETH), which led to a sudden emergence of a liquid market for GoETH tokens. This was a hugely controversial decision, as many in the Ethereum community believe that testnet tokens should remain free. At ETH Denver, Laura moderated a panel discussion about this hot topic with Bryan Pellegrino, cofounder and CEO of LayerZero Labs, Greg Markou, founder of Chainsafe and Matt Garnett, software engineer for the ...

Mar 07, 202347 minEp. 464

The Chopping Block: Is Coinbase’s Base ‘the Binance Smart Chain for White People’? - Ep. 463

In-person at ETH Denver, crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest crypto news. This week, Kyle Samani, scion of Solana, joins the show. Show highlights: why Coinbase decided to launch Base, a layer 2 on Ethereum and whether developers are building on it how Coinbase might make money from it whether it will be a permissioned, KYC’ed chain that requires users to reveal their identities Kyle's opinion on the allegedly fraudulent operations of FTX, in...

Mar 04, 202348 minEp. 463

Bitcoin Ordinal NFTs Are Hot and Getting Hotter. What's the Hype About? - Ep. 462

Muneeb Ali, co-creator of Stacks, discusses the Bitcoin trend that has everyone – or at least, many Bitcoiners – buzzing: Bitcoin ordinals. Ali explains why it is that they’ve taken up block space, pushed Bitcoin fees higher, and caused controversy in the community. Plus, he explains why the phenomenon has generated excitement about Stacks. Show highlights: how Ordinals technology works to enable NFTs in the Bitcoin blockchain the difference between NFTs in smart contracts platforms like Ethereu...

Mar 03, 202340 minEp. 462

Have Crypto Detectives Killed the Cypherpunk Dream? - Ep. 461

Andy Greenberg, senior writer for WIRED and author of “Tracers in the Dark,” takes us inside the world of crypto-tracing crimebusters and voices the ambivalence of Bitcoin – a cypherpunk creation – eroding financial privacy. Hear how the longtime crypto scribe got law enforcement and sleuthing firms like Chainalysis to open up about their major wins in taking down darknet kingpins. Show highlights: why Andy thought early on that Bitcoin would enable crypto anarchy how blockchain analytics starte...

Feb 28, 20231 hr 11 minEp. 461
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