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Unapologetic: The Third Narrative

With Amira and Ibrahimuttn.net
UTTN is an independent podcast created and hosted by Palestinian activists Amira Mohammed (‘67) and Ibrahim Abu Ahmad (‘48). For decades, narratives on Palestine and Israel have been deeply polarized, fueling division and sustaining inequalities that block justice and peace. A Third Narrative is essential to break this cycle. It fosters an inclusive community for those seeking real solutions and committed to nonviolence. It envisions a future that doesn’t just mediate between sides but transforms the conversation—paving the way for meaningful change.
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Episodes

Bonus Episode (Ceasefire)

After a long hiatus, co-hosts Ibrahim and Amira return with a heartfelt bonus episode, sharing their mixed emotions about the recent hostage release and ceasefire agreement. They unpack the bittersweet reality of this moment and share exciting news about their upcoming event in London on February 6th—a fundraiser dedicated to making Season 2 of the podcast a reality. Tune in for an honest conversation and all the details! Link to event/donation: link.outsavvy.com/uttneventlondon For more info on...

Jan 26, 202538 min

Episode 30: Season 1 Finale!

In our season finale, Ibrahim and Amira reflect on a year marked by loss, resilience, and the ongoing struggle in Palestine and Israel. Joined by our Unapologetic producer Evelyn, they take a moment to look back on the stories we've shared, the complexities we've navigated, and the road ahead. This episode marks not just the end of a season, but a pivotal moment of reflection for all of us at the Third Narrative team. We also share a glimpse of the next steps and the destinations we’ll be explor...

Nov 10, 20241 hr 38 minSeason 1Ep. 30

Episode 29: Keeping the Legacy Alive

As the one-year mark since October 7th approaches, we sat down with Yonatan Zeigen—father, social worker, and mediator. Yonatan is the son of the late Vivian Silver, a renowned Israeli peace advocate who dedicated her life to bridging the divide between Israelis and Palestinians. Tragically, Vivian was killed in the Hamas attack on Kibbutz Be'eri last year. In the aftermath of her death, Yonatan has continued her legacy, advocating for peace and justice with renewed purpose. We explore his emoti...

Oct 04, 20241 hr 28 minSeason 1Ep. 29

Episode 28: The Spiritual Journey of a Palestinian Woman

In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Miriam Abd El Hay, a remarkable Palestinian woman from Tira. She shares her unique journey of navigating life, identity, and spirituality. Miriam opens up about her multicultural upbringing, the challenges she faced in that complex cultural landscape, and how she has maintained her sense of self through it all. Initially pursuing a career in dentistry, a shift in her path led her to activism and the creation of a spiritual space for Palestinians. She also di...

Sep 19, 202459 minSeason 1Ep. 28

Episode 27: It Starts in the Classroom

In this compelling episode, Ibrahim sits down with Sabrin Masarweh, a Palestinian educator whose commitment to teaching and fostering dialogue in Jewish schools encountered an unexpected and painful challenge. Masarweh's journey took a dramatic turn when she was suspended from a prominent Jewish school in Israel. Her story is not just about one individual but serves as a lens to better understand the intersection of identity, education, and activism. Tune in to learn what led to Sabrin's suspens...

Sep 05, 20241 hr 12 minSeason 1Ep. 27

Episode 26: You Asked, Amira Answered

In this episode, we celebrate Amira's birthday by asking her questions from our audience. Some were personal, while others were more lighthearted to give you a break from our usual conversations. Here's a question for our audience - How has this podcast affected your life? Let us know in the comments. Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@thirdnarrative⁠ Subscribe to us on Patreon: ⁠ThirdNarrative⁠ For more info on Third Narrative, visit our ⁠⁠Linktree⁠⁠ or ⁠uttn.net⁠...

Aug 15, 20241 hr 21 minSeason 1Ep. 26

Episode 25: Ibrahim in the Hot Seat!

In this episode, we celebrate Ibrahim's birthday by asking him questions from our audience. Some were very challenging, and others made him blush. Listen till the end to see which ones did what and let us know your thoughts in the comments! Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@thirdnarrative⁠ Subscribe to us on Patreon: ⁠ThirdNarrative⁠ For more info on Third Narrative, visit our ⁠⁠Linktree⁠⁠ or ⁠uttn.net⁠...

Aug 08, 20241 hr 1 minSeason 1Ep. 25

Episode 24: Activist Burnout

So much time has passed by and we’re still in the same horrible, indescribable situation. In this episode, Amira and Ibrahim talk about the hopelessness that even the Peace-building community can fall victim to. Even in these very dark times, and even when it seems impossible, we must continue to fight for the future. Creating space for these natural doubts allows us to digest our feelings which fuels us to keep going. We thank you for your continued support! Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@thirdnarra...

Aug 01, 20241 hr 2 minSeason 1Ep. 24

Episode 23: Solution Series - Part 1

In this very special episode, we bring the first of three guests we will have on the show, who will present their solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict. This time, we are honored to host Yisrael Piekrash - Chief Executive Officer - Anahnu Movement - a movement committed to solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with an unusual vision of the Two-State Solution. Yisrael, who was brought up in the Zionist-Religious community and established the movement, has concluded that Palestinian nati...

Jul 18, 20241 hr 27 minSeason 1Ep. 23

Episode 22: Let's Talk Protests

In this long-awaited episode, Amira and Ibrahim tackle the complex and multifaceted topic of protests! They explore demonstrations and university encampments across the United States and Europe, offering insights shaped by the media they’ve encountered. They also reflect on the ongoing protests in Israel—both those supporting and opposing the war—as well as the situation in Gaza.Please note that their perspectives are shaped by a limited lens of the media in the land and may not fully capture th...

Jul 04, 20241 hr 10 minSeason 1Ep. 22

Episode 21: Prepared for his Parent's Murder?!

In this episode, Amira and Ibrahim are joined by their dear friend Maoz Inon, an award-winning Israeli social entrepreneur and peace activist. Maoz’s life took a profound turn when his parents became some of the first identified victims of the October 7th massacre. Through his heartbreaking journey, Maoz has emerged as one of the most profound voices fighting for justice and peace. . Maoz shares how he has come to believe that true security and liberation are deeply intertwined and why oppressio...

Jun 13, 20241 hr 13 minSeason 1Ep. 21

Episode 20: Biases and a Fight for a Better Future

In this episode, hosts Amira and Ibrahim reflect on the sensitive and challenging period that both Palestinians and Israelis have been enduring. They share updates on their recent activities and delve into discussions on topics like objectivity, biases, Nakba, Independence Day, and more. The Third Narrative is not about presenting a neutral or unbiased perspective; rather, it is a space of radical transparency. The hosts unapologetically express their views on the events shaping their lives and ...

Jun 06, 202451 minSeason 1Ep. 21

Episode 19: Special Episode - Nakba Stories

In this special video episode, we bring you powerful personal stories from the generation that lived through the Nakba—a tragedy whose impact remains ongoing and unacknowledged. The atrocities faced by Palestinians today are a stark reminder that the Nakba did not end in 1948; its pain and consequences persist, affecting every generation. We feature three extraordinary women who share their deeply moving accounts of the 1948 war and the Palestinian Nakba, recounting the experiences they and thei...

May 26, 202442 minSeason 1Ep. 19

Episode 18: A Palestinian-Ethiopian Minorities Discussion

In this episode, hosts Amira and Ibrahim are joined by the incredible Ashager Araro, an Ethiopian Jewish activist with a vibrant spirit and boundless charisma. Ashager founded Battae, an Ethiopian heritage center where she highlights the rich Ethiopian Jewish story through art, music, food, and personal narratives.Amira, Ibrahim, and Ashager delve into the shared and unique experiences of their communities as minorities in Israel, while Ashager takes us on a powerful journey through her culture,...

Apr 25, 202453 minSeason 1Ep. 18

Episode 17: Is the West Fueling the Middle East Conflict?

In this compelling episode, Iranian-American attorney and activist Elica Le Bon shares her perspectives on the multifaceted challenges facing the Middle East, drawing deeply from her personal experiences and professional expertise. Reflecting on her upbringing as an Iranian, Elica offers thoughtful analysis and candid insights into the complexities of regional struggles, providing listeners with a valuable lens into the challenges and opportunities that shape the region’s future. Follow us on In...

Apr 19, 20241 hr 22 minSeason 1Ep. 17

Episode 16: An Ethiopian Jewish story

In this episode, hosts Amira and Ibrahim are joined by the incredible Ashager Araro, an Ethiopian Jewish activist with a vibrant spirit and boundless charisma. Ashager founded Battae, an Ethiopian heritage center where she highlights the rich Ethiopian Jewish story through art, music, food, and personal narratives.Amira, Ibrahim, and Ashager delve into the shared and unique experiences of their communities as minorities in Israel, while Ashager takes us on a powerful journey through her culture,...

Apr 05, 20241 hrSeason 1Ep. 16

Episode 15: Ramadan Kareem!

In this episode, hosts Amira and Ibrahim explore the significance of the holy month of Ramadan, sharing personal experiences with their families and reflecting on the deeper meaning of this time. They discuss the traditions and practices that bring families together during Ramadan, but also address the painful reality that the land, which holds immense potential to unite people of all religions and celebrate diverse holidays, has instead become a source of fuel for hate and oppression. The hosts...

Mar 26, 20241 hr 11 minSeason 1Ep. 15

Episode 14: DEAL NOW!

In this episode, hosts Amira and Ibrahim are joined by Alana Zeitchik, an American-Israeli advocate for the hostages taken by Hamas on October 7th. Six of Alana's cousins, including three young children, were kidnapped from Kibbutz Nir Oz to Gaza. While five have returned, Alana's cousin's husband, David Cunio, remains captive. Alana believes the voices of the hostages and their families have been muffled by extreme voices seeking revenge. She is a strong advocate for a deal that values life abo...

Mar 18, 20241 hr 4 minSeason 1Ep. 14

Episode 13: A Gazan American Speaks | Part 2

This episode is part two of the hosts' conversation with analyst and activist Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib. In this episode, Ahmed tells the ins and outs of his experience attending UNRWA schools and gives his own analysis of Hamas and the current war. Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠@thirdnarrative⁠⁠ Subscribe to us on Patreon: ⁠⁠ThirdNarrative⁠⁠ For more info on Third Narrative, visit our ⁠⁠Linktree⁠⁠ or ⁠uttn.net⁠...

Mar 15, 20241 hr 19 minSeason 1Ep. 13

Episode 12: A Gazan American speaks | Part 1

On this episode of Unapologetic, Amira and Ibrahim host guest Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib, a Gazan American analyst who has recently gained popularity for his anti-Hamas sentiments in addition to his honest criticism of Israel. Join our hosts and their guest as they delve into the upbringing and brutal reality of being a Gazan. Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠@thirdnarrative⁠⁠ Subscribe to us on Patreon: ⁠⁠ThirdNarrative⁠⁠ For more info on Third Narrative, visit our ⁠⁠Linktree⁠⁠ or ⁠uttn.net⁠...

Mar 10, 202459 minSeason 1Ep. 12

Episode 11: Unapologetically From the Yarra River to the Mediterranean Sea

This episode was originally recorded and published by the podcast, From the Yarra River to the Mediterranean Sea. In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira join Itay and Hannah on their podcast and discuss together terms like boycott, resistance, and whether or not "complete justice" among others. Follow From the Yarra River to the Mediterranean Sea on Spotify: Here Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠@thirdnarrative⁠⁠ Subscribe to us on Patreon: ⁠⁠ThirdNarrative⁠⁠ For more info on Third Narrative, visit our ⁠⁠L...

Feb 27, 20241 hr 23 minSeason 1Ep. 11

Episode 10: The Druze community: Dynamics, Challenges, and Grievances

This time on Unapologetic, Ibrahim and Amira are joined by their first-ever Druze guest, Mansour Ashkar. In this episode, Mansour shares his personal experience as part of the Druze community in Israel, his reality and challenges. While his insights are interesting, we encourage our listeners to engage with more Druze voices and further explore their history, culture, and religion. As a minority in our region, the Druze people deserve a better life, and it's essential to recognize and support th...

Feb 19, 20241 hr 4 minSeason 1Ep. 10

Episode 9: Meet the Druze Community

This time on Unapologetic, Ibrahim and Amira are joined by their first-ever Druze guest, Mansour Ashkar. In this episode, Mansour shares his personal experience as part of the Druze community in Israel, his reality and challenges. While his insights are interesting, we encourage our listeners to engage with more Druze voices and further explore their history, culture, and religion. As a minority in our region, the Druze people deserve a better life, and it's essential to recognize and support th...

Feb 06, 202457 minSeason 1Ep. 9

Episode 8: Q&A Pt. 2 with Special Guest from the Audience

In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira are joined by a special guest, Adam Chitayat, an American-Jewish film director. Adam takes the role of audience representative, delivering thought-provoking questions submitted by our listeners. Tune in for a dynamic conversation that bridges diverse views and experiences. Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠@thirdnarrative⁠⁠ Subscribe to us on Patreon: ⁠⁠ThirdNarrative⁠⁠ For more info on Third Narrative, visit our ⁠⁠Linktree⁠⁠ For more info on Third Narrative, visit our...

Jan 12, 20241 hr 31 minSeason 1Ep. 9

Episode 7: Hamze Awawde, an Unapologetic Voice from the West Bank

In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira host their first guest, Palestinian peace activist Hamze Awawdeh. Hamze shares his story and upbringing in the West Bank, reality and challenges, and his decision to devote his life and career towards peace advocacy. Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠@thirdnarrative⁠⁠ Subscribe to us on Patreon: ⁠⁠ThirdNarrative⁠⁠ For more info on Third Narrative, visit our ⁠⁠Linktree⁠⁠ or ⁠uttn.net⁠...

Dec 30, 20231 hr 35 minSeason 1Ep. 7

Episode 6: Your Questions Answered

In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira reflect on their activism and delve into questions from listeners about the complex realities they navigate. The hosts share their personal opinions, experiences, and perspectives, offering a glimpse into their lived realities. They also emphasize the importance of seeking out diverse voices and challenging comfort zones—encouraging listeners to engage with perspectives that broaden understanding, even if they may feel uncomfortable. Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠@...

Dec 21, 20231 hr 8 minSeason 1Ep. 6

Episode 5: Let's Talk Terminologies

In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira explore the power of language and the complexities of terminologies in shaping conversations. They delve into the dangers of relying on labels and divisive language, emphasizing that the goal of dialogue should not be to "win" a debate but to foster understanding and empathy. They discuss how certain terms can influence perceptions and create barriers, while true conversation can bridge divides and open pathways to meaningful change. Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠@...

Dec 02, 20231 hr 4 minSeason 1Ep. 5

Episode 4: The "Day after" - What Happens Next?

In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira discuss the challenges facing the peacebuilding community, focusing on what they think has failed and the necessary changes that must occur for a genuine peace process to flourish. Both hosts bring their own analysis and perspectives on the steps they believe must happen for real change. They explore how the word "peace" has been hijacked and argue that it must be reclaimed to hold its true meaning. Additionally, they emphasize the importance of religion in the...

Nov 20, 20231 hr 32 minSeason 1Ep. 4

Episode 3: Two-State Delusion?

This episode sheds light on the series of events that have led to the current status quo. The hosts examine the failed peace process attempts, the mistakes made by both sides, and the missed opportunities that prevented the realization of a Two-State Solution. The hosts make it clear that they do not endorse any singular solution but aim to highlight the complexities and realities that have shaped the present-day. Regardless of the path forward, the fundamental needs of both peoples—liberation a...

Nov 14, 20231 hr 13 minSeason 1Ep. 3

Episode 2: Identities Unraveled

In this episode, Ibrahim and Amira open up about their personal journeys, navigating the complexities of their multifaceted identities. They share insights into the unique experiences of their respective communities—'48 Palestinians and '67 Palestinians—offering a window into the realities that shaped their lives. Through their stories, they explore how their different backgrounds and experiences have led them to work together for a more just and united future.Follow us on Instagram: ⁠⁠@thirdnar...

Nov 08, 20231 hr 17 minSeason 1Ep. 2
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