Thank you very much. Now some of you may have realised that in my more mature years, I've become a bit croaky of voice and this is not helped by there are so many of you want to talk to me. So I've I've got to preserve a little bit of my audio capacity. So I'm I'm just going to talk quite quietly. If you can't hear, put a hand up, but otherwise I just want to talk to you in a quiet way so that I have voice to talk to the rest of you for the rest of today. OK, brilliant.
Thank you all for coming. It's fantastic. We are going to do more events. There'll be another event in the autumn. Next year is the 20th anniversary of the UK column and we are going to do a special event. We want to do a weekend event and early commitment will make a big difference to us doing that. So if today goes well for you and you think it'd be fantastic to be away for a weekend with normal people and we're working on it now, I've really got to watch the time because I I've
got a lot of information. Gemma talks about the UK column Information Cascade, and I'm going to give you one of those. You might have to wait till the video comes out to go back through it, to pause it because I'm going to talk through some of the slides. But I want to be sure that basically information and research that we've done as the column appears on the screen. You had a brilliant personal testimony to start off. You knew Roger was telling the
truth from personal experience. And for me, I've got to put some evidence up on the screen and I've got some videos. But first I have to tell you off. Some of you have been very casual with your code books. This, this book has got to stay with you. Don't share it because you'll regret it, OK? So don't leave it under your chair. Keep it with you. You'll find out why right before I get started. Many people do not know that the UK column used to publish a newspaper.
This is 2010. And what does it say? Three parties, one police state. With respect, Sir, there is no Labour Party. There's only one party, the UNI Party. This was the UK column in 2012 pointing out that an Asian man had tried to protect white children. And that newspaper went to every mosque in the country. We didn't send it there, the communities did. This was this warning what Brown was doing? Brown's treason. I believe that what we are talking about today is treason.
And here was a mix of by Mike, of David Cameron and Nick Clegg, half and half for the face quizzlings, Quizzlings for change, collaborators in treason. We've been there. We've told people about this. But we printed nearly 1,000,000 newspapers. And there's a lady called Kate here who was part of the original UK column team that helped us mail out those newspapers. So if you get a chance to meet Kate, she'll tell you what it was like in the early days.
Let's start. So I chose not to have the doughnut because I thought this was a nicer picture and we needed something to lighten it up. So where is this? Alex? This is. Yeah. Bude Cornwall. Anyway, listening to keep us safe. Who believes that? OK, It's a shame the girl's not here, isn't it? So this is what they tell us. Trust us. You're safe in our hands. But the key thing is who is the deep state, really? This is part of the problem. Can you see it? Can you touch it?
Do you know what it does? Well, what we can do is we can play a bit of video. Let's. I'm intrigued because there should have been some commentary on that video maker that what you like. However, this is how they sell themselves, the soft sell.
Trust us, we're nice people. I'm sure many of them are, but we've got to be a lot more discerning about who we allow to control us and monitor us. And I don't have any confidence in the doughnut down the road, whichever direction it is, and I'm going to try and explain why. But if we think that there's something wrong in society. We've just heard about the massive abuse of children, but apparently our intelligence services and our security services don't know this is going on.
They're monitoring millions of conversations, but they don't know the child abuse is going on. That's remarkable, isn't it? It's only a coincidence. What should society be like? Well, Ben Rubin was kind enough to record a little bit of video for me. Let's see what he has to say. A healthy society, the market and the state. The state is concerned with power, the market concerned with money, and the church is concerned with spirit. And the trick is to achieve an
even balance between the three. If you have too much market, things become unequal very quickly. Too much state, things become rigid and inflexible and inhumane. Too much church and nothing ever gets done. And today we live in a completely unbalanced society because we're governed by what's known as a public private partnership, A conspiracy if you will, between the markets and the state, what I call an unholy alliance between money and power.
We have a state that issues diktats and a market that profits from enforcing them without any kind of democratic scrutiny or oversight. That is the deep state in effect. And this system, this public private partnership, has delivered levels of inequality that are unprecedented in human history in a manner that is very reasonably described as anti human. Citizens pay for it through our taxes and by being subjugated to the public private partnership and the church.
The third pillar is nowhere to be seen. So that that was Ben's version of society. And I think it's a very interesting one. We have to have it in balance for it to be working properly. And clearly it's not in balance. And what what we call a deep state, this was one definition. A deep state is a type of government made-up of potential unauthorized secret networks of power operating independently of a state's political leadership in pursuit of their own agenda and goals.
I think we'll cross out potential because it's reality. But I I thought that this was quite a good definition. Now, what are we talking about in the really deep part of the state? Well, this is an overview of how things are linked together. You've got the doughnut, it's got listening stations. We've seen those. BBC monitoring is part of it. Yes, the BBC is part of the state's spying apparatus. We've got a political charity called Common Purpose, which I'll come on to.
And then we've got the overseas links with the National Security Agency, CIA, et cetera, et cetera. But the point I was making on this slide originally was we had a British politician, Brooks Newmark, reported in the Daily Mail as going overseas on the border with Syria in order to talk to people who were connected to terrorists. And we asked on what basis he went and where the minutes of
the meeting were. And that was never revealed to us. But there was other stuff going on. And we're going back in time here. What are we looking at? Well, we're looking at Malcolm Rifkin. And a statement in the Guardian for the chair of the Intelligence and Security committee to discuss working for a bogus Chinese company is very odd indeed, to be frank. I can't believe that the ISC members are allowed outside interests. They are.
They see more sensitive information than most government ministers. Now the point being made here is the people with oversight and regulation and control of the security services not doing their job. And if I expand that a bit, this is another problem going on at the moment. And this is showing the links between the security services and Israel right now. What we've got to ask ourselves here is, well, hang on a minute, if if all our data or data is being shared with Israel, who's
actually in control? Who is in control? It doesn't matter that it's Israel, because if it was Italy or Germany, I'd still be making the same statement. But this was never discussed with the public. It was just something that was set up and now we know that the state spies on us as individuals. We have to be very sure where this data is going. But of course nothing works without money.
And this is going back to June 2013 where the Bilderberg Group met in Watford, in the Grove Hotel in Watford. And I produced this slide at the time to just show you some of the bankers who were there. We've no idea what was discussed with government ministers, secret meetings, but here were the faces. And then on the bottom left you've got Peter Sutherland, no longer with us past as they say.
He was the man that thought mass migration was great to breakdown the homogeneity of the nation state. So a man who believed in using mass migration as a political weapon, sitting down behind closed doors with a mass of bankers and ministers, No minutes. This is outrageous. And basically the whole country should be up in arms about that. Or put inverted commas around that. But here, here is the reality of how this state controls itself. And this is a little bit of a a
just an overview. It's a slide from about 2000 where somebody produced an excellent little graphic that was essentially saying, well just be careful of who controls the media because Disney, Time Warner and another 4 big outfit outfits are basically taking the whole of the media under control. So these are global corporations controlling right down to your local newspaper.
In fact, if you try and find a local Independent newspaper now in this country, it's very difficult because they've all been snapped up by by the big global companies. And this means, of course, that if those global companies are in bed with the government and as Ben Rubin said in the public private partnership arrangement, then what you have got is total state globalist control of the media. And that means we are not going to get the truth.
We're not going to see what's really happening in the country now. We the UK column warned and warned what was happening when we saw the initial setup for control of the press. And here this slide is indicative of the setup for the Leveson inquiry where all of a sudden we couldn't trust the existing press. They'd been naughty boys, they hacked people's phones. And So what was happening was a mix of political interests and private interests in order to set up an inquiry to control
press and media. That means free speech. We're back in sort of 2015, I think it was here was was being grabbed and taken away from us. Now, Roger mentioned the sort of layers, so I'm going to call it the networks. If you want to understand the deep state, you've got to be able to think in terms that it operates as a sort of big BLOB. But there's layers, there's networks, and the only way we could deal with this was by starting to break it apart in
order to show these networks. So I'll talk over this slide as it animates. But this shows you how complex the state's arrangements were to grab control of the press. And what you're seeing here is from the bottom left hand corner where a political charity called Common Purpose started a work with an organization called Hacked Off and then Brian Leveson was all part of that mix.
They eventually started down the route of state control of the media, something Mike Robinson has been warning and warning and warning about in recent UK column news programmes. So Max Moseley there, you might be surprised, but he was a naughty boy at one stage and did something a little bit embarrassing, which I can possibly talk about, but he ended up thinking he was the right man to help fund this embryonic growth in state control of the media.
And have a look at this, this man here, this is Leveson what the initial opening video of the SIS system, the intelligence system. I was expecting a narrative for some reason it wasn't there. But of course they talk about our views and values. Trust us because our values are good, but this man was involved in the network to take control
of the press. And then when we go into who regulates the intelligence services and the police, well what a surprise because the same old faces keep popping up. Now there may be nothing in this, but it is rather a coincidence that everywhere you see the control coming in, you often see the same faces. Now children have been mentioned and why are children part of the mix? I believe for two main reasons. One is destruction of the family unit. That is an objective.
They want the children and how do you get the children and how do you get vulnerable children? You destroy the protective family unit of mum and dad. That's one reason this is going on. The other reason is that if they can get the children away from a protective mother and father, those children can be trafficked and abused and sold. They become money, big money. It's a billions, multi billion pound industry. Child trafficking in this country, not external in this country.
And you may, sorry, you may remember a while back that there was a big so-called Westminster VIP paedophile ring. And most of this is is to the left. It was to do with a guest house called Elm Guest House. It all went into the long grass. But it was revealed at the time that the men going to that guest guest house to abuse young boys came from a variety of interesting places. There was politicians, there were police, an MI five person, that's interesting. And military people were
involved. A whole heap of people were coming in in order to engage in the abuse of children. Now I'm going to put a label over this. I know you're not going to be able to read all of that, but if you watch the video later, you can freeze it and see the detail. This is under the surface at the moment. Although it happened years ago, the implications of who in the state was involved in the abuse
of children has never gone away. And I'm going to tell you today there's a powder keg sitting under the surface to do with the politicians, the security, sorry, the national security people and the police, senior police officers who were abusing children. The government made a big effort to cover this up. This is another slide of recover up of abuse, but this one isn't about Elm Guest House.
This is about Dolphin Square in London where politicians in particular were abusing young boys, right. This is also sitting under the surface and the moment some very, very brave people have said no, we're not going to let this go. We are going to get this information out. The people who are denying the evidence which they hold in their possession of the police.
And when we get to the point where it's not the police are incompetent or corrupt, when they are actually protecting people who abuse children, the police service as a whole is nearly gone. And this is the reality of UK in 2025. Now, a bit of Five Eyes. And I'm going to say a big thank you to Matt Erett. This was part of a very interesting little documentary. I'm really going to play a clip of it. Go to Rumble and you can see the full Five Eyes.
See what it's On March 6th, 1946, the UKUSA Signals Agreement established what became known as the Five Eyes. That soon involved the global dragnet of intelligence agencies, led by Britain's GCHQ into MI 6.
Soon other Anglo-Saxon spy agencies such as Canada's Communications Security Establishment and RCMP joined into the alliance, along with partner agencies in Australia and New Zealand. It is no coincidence that March 6th, 1946 was also the same day that Winston Churchill delivered his infamous Iron Curtain speech in Fulton, MO, setting into motion the framework of the Cold War. In the Baltic to Trieste, in the Adriatic, an Iron Curtain has
descended across the continent. Behind that line lie all the capitals of the ancient states of Central and Eastern Europe. Under this new order ushered in by President Truman and Churchill, America's OSS was disbanded and President Franklin Roosevelt's dream of AUS, Russia, China Alliance to shape the post war world was destroyed.
In this new scheme for a new world order, America's closest allies that fought by her side to prevent the success of the Nazi war machine were now rebranded as America's enemies, while America's enemies became her closest allies. So I'm going to say that is a really excellent documentary, but you've got the twist there right at the end. Suddenly the bad people became the good people and the good people became the bad people. Absolutely on the button.
Let's have a look at the doughnut you. Now know more about how the three agencies listen to or read communications in order to guard. But who guards the guards? In the UK, Parliament makes the laws the agencies should abide by. The newly empowered Intelligence and Security Committee then tries to ensure they do just that. The former head of GCHQ says today's historic hearings are a
test. In a curious way, the committee itself is as much on trial as the three witnesses because they have to demonstrate to the public that they are capable of oversight of this very difficult, delicate area. And if they can't, then public anxiety following the revelations will undoubtedly grow. I'm confident they can. The details revealed by the former CIA contract worker Edward Snowden about the capacity of the UK to Hoover up vast quantities of electronic
data has caused concern. Are the agencies going beyond the letter of the law? So David says no, but that staff need to be constantly reminded about the law and ethics. The two are complementary. The legal oversight comes from very senior judges who can descend on and do descend on the agencies who not only look at the papers but go and interview individual analysts. Ask them why you intercepting
that target. Prove to me that it's a proportionate and necessary in the light of the task you've been given. So very clever little response to camera there because he said, well, the basically the problem isn't the security services themselves, it's whether the political system is competent enough to evaluate our delicate work. I'm going to say never seen that clip before myself until a couple of days ago and I thought what a devious, dangerous man. Because we need oversight of
what is actually happening. Now there is apparently some oversight through Parliament, but of course where most politicians go is to the House Commons library because they're lazy, they don't want to research on their own. So briefing documents like this are what the average MP accepts as truth. And this is This is why the average MP at the moment is absolutely failing because they don't know anything. They only believe what the government and their their national offices tell them.
So that document for me indicative, but if you get into the panel here, the Intelligence and Security Committee, this is the the front page of a report. These are the people supposedly, supposedly keeping oversight of the intelligence and security services. If you read this particular report that I've got on screen, excuse me, they are talking about their inability to do the job because people are keeping information from them. So we are talking breakdown of
the full system. The security services at the moment are playing fast and loose because the politicians either won't do their job or don't know how to do it. What's the result? This is just a table of how much money GCHQ sucks up and that's not the important bit with this report. The committee talked about this. You can't read that text, but I assure you what's here is diversity training, getting in young people to break up the homogeneity of GCHQ, bringing more diverse people.
What does that do? Well, I'll give you a demonstration, but you need the Telegraph from a couple of days ago, because at the bottom of the front page was this tiny article. Top Secret GCHQ files taken away by intern when you got inside. This is the main article and it tells how this person had come in on one of these special schemes and suddenly started to help himself to top secret data.
But down at the bottom in one tiny parent and one tiny sentence was this, that there was also a connection with indecent images of children. But inside GCHQ, Meanwhile, what does GCHQ do to the public? They send out this nonsense. Get your children. Can your children crack the the GCH code puzzle? This is something designed by children, but it's very dangerous because it's trying to make out that what they do is just nothing. It's all a bit of a gain. So, you know, here we are.
GCHQGCHQ can entertain our children, but it's unable to protect the country from subversion. Whereas we've heard with the opening speaker thousands of our children are being abused and yet the listening station down the road says it's no idea what's going on. Well, what about this as an organization? An organization believes in these things. It's setting up useful idiots. It's using two or three determined 5th columnists on the inside, expert idiots, building
coalitions and conspiring. And if you challenge them, they say run over them, undermine them, go round them, discredit them. That's exactly what Roger was talking about. Do you think UK should support an organization that believes in those things? Because I don't what? What am I talking about? Well, I'm talking about the doctrine book from the political
charity Common Purpose, Right? And this organization got all over the country and we warned and warned and warned what was going on, but they got somewhere else. So let's bring GCHQ back on screen, because we showed many, many years ago that that organization seeking to conspire and overturn and produce 1/5 column had penetrated GCHQ itself. And these are not idle
positions. They had got hold of the Policy and Coordination and Development Programmes individual from GCHQ and they'd also got hold of the head of software engineering. This can't be right. This is an organization which is says it's there to break things down, to conspire. And yet they got into GCHQ. Now we warned what was going on. We even showed the extent of this political charity across
the country. And so a red dot, if you can just make it out on the map that that is a, that is a group of individuals trained by this totally unaccountable organization. Now, one of the things they were doing was breaking apart silos. And what they meant by that is if you have an organization that's working perfectly well and happily, they are going to get in and destabilize it.
Why do you need to do that? Because if you want to take over or control the direction of a big organization, you have to shake it, you have to destabilize it, and then you can manoeuvre that big organization. You can't change the NHS overnight. They had to destabilize it, break it down, make it all unstable so that they could then bring it to where it was going to go. I put out many years ago a video of a man talking about disruption. Let's hear what he has to say.
Edited by Mike Robinson so nothing is taken out of context, but there is a little bit of editing. Hi I'm. Going to do that very uncool Ted thing of saying this is really exciting for me to do this. You don't often hear that at the beginning of Ted videos, but I think you should a bit more. So I'm going to talk to you about some of the work that we do.
My name is Dominic Campbell. I run a small phone called Future Gov and I'm lucky enough to work with a small gang of cool people who are really interested in how we can use technology in the web to transform government and politics. This is my personal story. This is where I started nine years ago. Very, very classic local government story. That's Barnett Town Hall in North London, doesn't look like the hotbed of innovation and disruption.
So this is also me. The other side of my life is my web obsession and in particular Twitter. And those two, the last two slides have really the foundation of my career and the foundation of future government and also me being lucky enough to be part of this movement that's now often called Gov 2O Government 2 point O building on how do you, how do you transform the web government using Web 2
point O technology? So Twitter has been pretty fundamental to why I'm here tonight in so many ways, which I can't really go into because there's so many of them. But it's, it's fascinating just from a personal journey, how disruptive to my life this this disruptive technology has been. To actually Take Me Out of being in the back office of the town hall in North London to suddenly being here three years later is phenomenal. What is the kind of culture that
we're all striving for? What is the new world that we're pushing for? So I think that we're at a point now where you're either with us or you're against or are we actually going to transform government into something entirely different, so. If you don't understand breakdown in the NHS, breakdown in government, holes in the road, it's because the whole system in this country deliberately targeted by disruptors, that's what they call themselves in order to destroy what is in place.
And of course, if you disrupt in a hospital, people get hurt. Now somebody saw this video, his name's Alex Thompson. This was many years ago. And Alex said to me was later to say to me, I'll watch the video and, and my jaw just about hit the floor. And when Alex speaks in a minute, I hope he's going to tell you why his jaw nearly hit the floor when he watched that man speaking on that video clip.
But let's do a little bit more in the short time we got left because of course, the big thing these organisations keep telling us is they keep us safe. We're not allowed to know what they do, but they can tell us they keep us safe. We've foiled 1000 attacks. Where's the proof? Oh, we can't tell you. I mean, it's a good business, isn't it, when you think of it. All right, so let's hear one of the previous operatives talking. I spent.
My entire life working against covert threats to this country, and we are well equipped to do that. And we have powerful agencies across government and powerful friends and allies. Most importantly, we have our values, which we cannot relinquish under any circumstances. But we need to give ourselves the best modern chance for dealing with these issues.
And a frustration for me, I'll be honest with you as I dealt with this stuff, was the ambiguity, the ambiguity that existed legally around all of these issues, particularly as time went on, they were manifest in the digital space and the people were exploiting our open society to plot and carry out acts of aggression and harm against citizens. And of course, there's a few vivid examples of that that you have seen. Moments after the attack in Salisbury. They remain in a critical.
Condition after being exposed to the substance Novichok. The three suspects are believed to be in Russia. The attack by the Russian military intelligence service in Salisbury against British citizens, one of whom died as a result, I think tells you all you need to know both about the nature of the adversaries that we're up against and the fact that this is going on. I. Sensed you enjoyed that, right? But he said something very telling. Did you pick up open society
right? This is straight out of George Soros World Economic Forum book. And what he's telling you is that his job is protecting open society. That's not our society. It's something different. Before I get a bit more detail on that, let's just remind ourselves about the whole of the scribble poisoning affair.
The UK column did quite a lot because apparently, and I say this as an ex military man that went through the nuclear, biological and chemical warfare training where we knew how dangerous some of these products were, you were dead in seconds. But apparently for script all the script all case, you could use baby wipes to just clean off the handles, right.
So this excellent article from the Grey Zone encourage you to read it because in it he's got some really phenomenal information which is showing that the official narrative was complete rubbish. But if you've heard open Society from one man, this is Richard Moore. So the latest incumbent, the 17th C. If you look at the bottom of the small print, you can't read. But don't worry, I'm going to tell you what it is. He says that they're there to help preserve the rules based
international system. That's nothing about you, me, our families, It's nothing about UK. He's telling you that these powerful security agencies are there to protect the international globalist system, right? We're paying the billions for these people to operate at the moment. And the other thing on their particular page, it's right down at the bottom, so it's very small, but it says this. We are #secretively like you. This is nudging.
This is applied behavioural psychology to get the reader to believe that they can trust these individuals. Why shouldn't we trust them? Well come back to Alex Thompson because many years ago he sent me a book which was a bit of an eye opener when I opened it because it was called A Secret History of Torture. I recommend you buy a copy. It's not quite what you think it is.
This is about Britain's involved in evolvement, in torture around the world, and it opens with the fact that immediately at the end of the Second World War, our intelligence services took over Gestapo facilities and tortured people. Evidence is there. And so as he says, and yet the evidence is irrefutable. When faced with potential threats to their that's the word he used to their national security. The gloves always come off.
That book full of footnotes full of the evidential reports describing the most disgusting things that our government and the intelligence agencies carried out, apparently to keep us safe. It's disgusting.
Now I've mentioned interaction with other countries, but this was Francis Moore to gayly announced to the to the to the UK and the world that our intelligence forces had now been LinkedIn with other elements of of Israeli intelligence gathering, including linking British and and Israeli universities in order to share data. Who voted for this? Did any of you vote for This Was Just done? And why were we interested in
Francis Maude? Well, Francis Maude was helping to promote that charity Common Purpose, right? It's coincidence, just a coincidence. But what was he also doing? He unleashed applied behavioural psychology and I've talked about this many times because we were warning and warning back in 2013 the government said it could change people's minds and behaviours and they wouldn't know about it. This is the document, it's
online as APDF. If you haven't read it, get online and read it because it's truly astounding. They are using applied psychology everywhere, including on civil servants and politicians. And when you hear strange phrases coming out of the mouths of politicians, it's because you're dealing with a reframed person. This technology. Technology is real. And the British government said we are leading the world on the ability to change the way people
think. UK column did a huge amount of work showing the layers, the networks. So this is the top with Francis Maude and the top civil servants at the time. But we also highlighted that. Let's bring it on down. That was Bob Kerslake came in to
replace the head man at the top. But we also showed that in the background there was dialogues going on with French behavioural change experts, never declared to the public, but it was declared to another charity called the Franco British Council. Never put in the press, never talked about and the man on screen, Olivier Williere, if I've pronounced that correctly, was a neuro man.
He wasn't just a psychologist or a psychiatrist, he was neuro and they were talking about UK and the French working together to change the way people think and behave. And if we take it through, this was the Behavioural Insights team that was set up in this country under David Halpern in order to run the agenda in UK. And if I follow it through, very quickly it took us to David Cameron's Big Society. But if you want to see the Frenchman, here he is. This is the article on the UK column.
British Cabinet Office collaborates with French brainwashing guru to change the way we think. This is a phenomenal book. Talking about this is very expensive now because it seems to have sort of been retracted, but it's written by PhD university people. They've got tables of how this pernicious behavioural change penetrated all parts of of the civil service. Now the worst thing is that very often the attack on society has
been in our faces. So this was a quote from Nicola, the Nicholas Bowles MP back in 2013. And he said the Prime Minister and his deputy, Nick Clegg want their people power revolution to unleash chaotic effects across local communities. I don't know where Roger is now, but he's been in the middle of those chaotic effects. Chaos or chaotic, therefore, in our vocabulary, is a good thing. And I'll bring up another one, Danny Kruger. The Conservatives plan to introduce a period of creative
destruction. This is this is sedition, this is treason, we were told. What were the security services doing? Where were they? I think they were complicit. Let's have a look at this man Michael Gove, a revolutionary communist could lead Ofsted. So if the right candidate for any public appointment happens to be a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party or someone who's been generous enough to support a political party with their hard earned cash, think about what Roger was
telling you. If they're the right person, he or she will be appointed. I ask who checked him and I will end on this one, which is Eric Pickles. So what was his message? Well, I mean it. It was just everything. We are going to shake up the balance of power in this country. We are going to change the nature of the Constitution, be in no doubt about our commitment to localism. I know I look like an unlikely revolutionary, but the revolution starts here. Isn't this sedition right?
You wonder why the country's falling apart. They told you they were going to destroy the country and you've had a glimpse of how how that was done. I've got to finish, but I just want to end on this. The Tories, big society, people think it was a sort of busted flush and it disappeared. Oh no, it didn't. You're living big society now. And this was a model based on another provocateur, Saul Alinsky. I'm not making this up. This is in the Conservative.
This was in the Conservative home blogspot. They admitted it. And once again, the UK column warns what was going on here. The dissent, Interstate media control. And last bit, I'm sorry for the Labour Party is if you think this was only being carried out through the Labour, through the Conservative Party. No, because exactly the same Solinsky policy was being unleashed through the through Labour.
And I'll end with this, this slide, which is just to say, are we really to believe that our security services with billions of pounds of surveillance and monitoring couldn't work out that this country was being destroyed by subversion and sedition from inside the country? So as they say, I put it to you that this is this cannot
possibly be the case. And if it's if it's the case that the Security Service is new, then they are complicit in the subversion and what we have called the treason against this country. I'll end there. Thank you.