Kim Isherwood, I hope, is well known to the UK column audience for a number of reasons. Not just because her actions have been reported on the news many times, but she has also conducted a number of very compelling interviews, showed an academic background in criminology and what she has done with Public Child Protection Wales is nothing short of astonishing, in particular, her fight against the education system and the transgender lobby.
So without any further ado, we are pushed on time. But Kim Isherwood, thank you very much for coming. You're very welcome. Thank you, you kick Holland for having us. This is a wonderful opportunity. So for those who don't know us, we are public child protection wheels. We do exactly what it says on the 10. We are the public protecting the children in Wales. OK, so we haven't got a lot of
time today. I not really going to address much of the sex education with you because you can find all of yourselves later on what I want to look at today, we're going to roughly look at the problem. I want to introduce some of the people that's fighting this in Wales and then I'm going to discuss a little bit about the process that we've been through. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Graphic lessons on oral sex, how to choke your partner safely and 72 genders.
This is what passes for relationships and sex education in British schools across the country. Children are being subjected to lessons that are age inappropriate, extreme sexualising and inaccurate, often using resources from unregulated organisations that are actively campaigning to undermine parents. This is not a victory for equality, it is a catastrophe
for childhood. Will my right honourable friend honour his commitment to end inappropriate sex education by commissioning an independent inquiry into the nature and extent of this safeguarding scandal? So all of that is true, OK, Every single thing that is true. And you can find most of this on our websites. I'm not going to go through the actual sex education. If I did, I know I would have tears in the room because it happens every single time is sick.
You can find everything on our website, publicchildprotectionwheels.org. Much of our fight evidence where we've engaged with the government, the court system, and you'll find a lot about us there and the people of who we are. So who are the people behind this? We are from all walks of life. We've got computer software engineers, retired teachers, accountants, nurses, doctors, care workers, you name it, we've got it. People from all walks of life,
strangers. None of us knew each other until our children became under attack. We are strangers to each other. But people think, are we good friends? People think we're family, but that is not true. We're just all joined with one thing. We're joined through the heart
and that's our children. And then there's me, Mouth of the South. So my first permanent address was HMPYOY, Eastwood Park, then HMPYOI recall, HMPYOI Bollywood Hall. I don't suppose there's many people in the room that can relate to that. But I do know this is being streamed. So the people out there like me, the people who've been told your entire life you're less. This is your moment to get off your knees and on your feet. Our children need us now.
You are not less, you are more. If you spent more time in the corridor than the classroom, you are more and we need you guys. Now. On the flip side of that, I am a criminologist. I do have a few degrees under my belt. I specialised in child sex abuse, institutional child sex abuse, which I learnt about here. I learnt a lot about life in prison and when you've got somebody like me, when nothing's too hot or too heavy, you've got nothing they can take away from
you. You've got an education, you can untangle their documents. You do become quite dangerous to the government. So now on to the process, the democratic process. I've got no faith in politics whatsoever. I've been bitten once, bitten twice, shy. However, I have to take a country on a journey. We have to go down the democratic process. We took part in consultations where 87% of us rejected the sex education.
Another consultation, they didn't mention sex education, but 68% of us still mentioned it and rejected it. They went ahead anyway. At the time. Kirsty Williams on my right, you were left. She was the education minister and according to Kirsty Williams, the children of Wales are banking on me. They are banking on me. That was just speeches in the Sanev. They were banking on her, all right. They were banking on her to give
up her job and leave. Kirsty Williams did not stand for re election and that's because of us. She was too scared to stand for re election. We know this, we know it from people who's close to her. She couldn't stand the backlash against RSC. Then we've got Becca Brown, so she was a councillor at the time. She's recently stepped down.
So we've challenged the government, we've challenged the councils to the point where Louise Hose, Councillor Louise Hose called an extraordinary meeting in Gwynedd Council if you go to the BBC, oh, we were a bunch of animals in the gallery, We had to be removed away. And poor Becca Brown now was a panic alarm in her house because apparently I said she needs stringing up. I wasn't even there, I wasn't even there. So what do we do?
How do we respond to that? We started raising awareness and you won't know about this because you're not in wheels, but one of our leaflets went viral and as a result of that, you will see we have 22 local authorities in Wales, we have 22 local authority WhatsApp groups fighting this. We are the only, we are the only country in the world that can say that. Some groups have 14 people, some groups have 400 people, Some groups are less active, some are on fire. It's irrelevant.
We have 100% of the country fighting and that's why the council are not allowed to engage on the topic of sex education. So we took it to court, we went on the judicial process, a judicial review. Now we're dealing with an agenda, a massive big agenda here. You can't possibly deal with this in court. But in Wales they had removed our opt out, our right to opt out of this education. So what we decided we were going to go into court to fight for our parental rights, our parental opt out.
So into court we went to the High Court in Cardiff, which the media buried. They just scooted over. We went into that court where the Welsh Government was saying we were promoting misinformation and we proved everything as fact. We proved this was global, we proved the whole of the UK. All four countries adopted this in March 2017. Unfortunately, the government
brought out the big guns. Using case law from around Europe. They successfully argued parental rights do not exist, they are not a thing. So we tried warning people in England they're going to do this to you, they are bringing this in with legislative changes. They will use our case law against you. 3 weeks ago we were contacted by a parent in England. A head teacher from England was quoting our case law and taking big paragraphs from it. These teachers have been
schooled with this legislation. You need to look out for this legislation. So that was the only thing they won in court and they slapped on us at lower the costs. We had to raise in excess of 100,000 lbs. But I was a lead claimant on the case simply because I'm the poorest, so they can't have what you don't, where you haven't got. But they were sending emails threatening to remove my assets and like I told you, I got
nothing. So what that meant for me was they were going to take my furniture, my furniture, so my children won't have a sofa to sit on. But I don't care, you send me a bill for £0.50 or £50,000, it means the same to me. It is just numbers but with but with the help of UK column, with the help of UK column and other places we did successfully raise that money. We held on to a little bit longer. You know, we don't want to pay them straight away.
We would enjoy in these emails. I was enjoying them and because I was a lead claimant on the case, I had permission to speak for the other claimants. Now if they were receiving these emails, I don't know if we would all be here now because it was a difficult fight for some of them. Some were openly anxious, some kept it in, one started losing their hair. But I didn't care about this, nor for me. I just had to protect the other claimants in it all. Like I said, we did pay it.
We successfully created case law, we did prove this thing as fact and now we have a person to blame through this case law. We can blame the head teachers. The head teachers have absolutely no idea the government has put their head on the block. I don't take pleasure out to going after people's jobs but at this stage in the game if they have failed to look into this education they are negligent. So that was in the court. This was outside the court.
What a beautiful week that was. They couldn't put their camera into our crowd because they didn't know whether it was a Christian or a lesbian. We were all stood shoulder to shoulder, Muslims, Christians, people of faith, people of none. Children LED it. The children were on the mic outside. The children were chanting, say no to RSE, Say no to RSE. What a wonderful moment. And that's why the media didn't report on it.
I said straight to them, you're not reporting on us because when your camera comes into our crowd, you don't know whether it's a Christian or a lesbian. So outside the courts we we got a little glimpse of the government's barristers going across the road. So we all started shouting Boo, Boo, shame on you, shame on you. It was amazing. But according to them, they were too scared to come out the front. After that, they always had to be hushered out the back. We had them, we booed them down.
But I think the most magical moment of all was Paul Diamond's closing speech when he absolutely annihilated Casey. Moffett, proved the Welsh Government were the ones that brought misinformation. And as soon as our judge stood up and went, the court erupted. When we come outside, Paul Diamond come out through the door and the whole crowd was chanting hero, hero, hero, hero. You could hear it all through the streets of Cardiff. What a moment that was.
That is worth every little bit of this fight to be stood shoulder to shoulder. Muslims, Christians, the children chalking on the floor, children playing together. That's something the government don't want. That's something the government is scared of, unity. So now on to the people process and empty vessels make the loudest noise. I don't think you can see the shaded bit very well. That is supposed to be Peter
Tatchell there. So Peter Tatchell tried to come to Wales. Peter Tatchell was booked in for an event with ABBC journalist we found out about in Abergavenny. If you go to the media, according to them the police put a stop to this because there was far right extremists there. Far right extremists, that's a lie. I informed the police that we were going because I knew there would be people. There were in our hoodies and I was not having them get into trouble.
Peter Tatchell in 30 years has never been cancelled until that day we cancelled Peter Tatchell. It was us. We turned up. We didn't want trouble, we don't want trouble. All we wanted was one thing. We pulled the PA system out and we played Peter Tatchell through that PA system echoing through the streets of Abergavenny talking about how sex when 9 year old boys may be harmless, but we are the extremists. And then you've got this guy here, see him there in his heels, that is Ian Timbral.
Ian Timbral was a teacher and he was a deputy head teacher. He's actually, he's written articles on us calling us radicals. I didn't know who he was until I seen these articles and I challenged him and I try to explain what our concern is. The sex abuse, taking pillars in schools, teachers assaulting our children. He wanted evidence. I give him piles and piles and piles of evidence. He blocked me and he's actively buried the sexual abuse and salts of children in Welsh
schools for personal gain. Ian Timbrel, he's dressed like that for his 8 year old pupils. Apparently that is gender stereotype. So they also put Ian Timbrel against me on ITV News. I had absolutely no idea. I did the interview in January, it was aired the next September. You know, it's when I give him 45 minutes, they give me 23 seconds. But they brought Ian Timbrel in. Now, I didn't respond to Ian Timbrel in that moment because
there's a time and a place. So what we did was we went, we had our demonstration outside the Senath and I turned up breast as Ian Timbrel. That is not gender stereotyping, ladies and gentlemen. Those heels are for sex appeal. Women do not wear heels like that everyday you will see people going to clubs, you'll see people dancing around poles, you'll see people in the streets selling themselves with those heels. That is not women. Women don't wear that kind of stuff.
You've got a man there fraunting himself in sex appeal heels for 8 year olds and I'm the radical. So Mr Ian Timbrel is no longer a deputy head teacher. He's now an RSE consultant and he's just been up for an award for his work on good mental health. So we've been all around the UK, ladies and gentlemen, because we know knowledge is power. We've been to Scotland, England, Ireland, we've done tours of Wales and we know we need to educate our people.
People don't quite understand what's going on and the way we've gone about things has been wrong. Really like me, I, I couldn't really string a sentence together when this stuff first came out. Now how do you verbalise this stuff? So the new approach now for us is we're asking questions. Have you seen this? Did you see that? Have you heard about this? It's not about winning the discussion, it's about planting the seeds. Are we the seed planters or the fruit pickers?
We the seed planters, ladies and gentlemen, the fruit is there for the children. So not only are we open in these discussions with people, we are actively training and educating the people of Wales. We are training them on advocacy, rights and representation so they are now empowered enough to go into the schools.
We've had parents going into schools as an advocate, we've had parents going to schools with other parents as advocates, and we have managed to safeguard entire year groups by taking this approach. Not only have we done that, we have recently written our own training package for institutional child sex abuse awareness. This training has been written for professionals working with children, but we really want it in the communities.
This is a preventative approach. We've designed 4 new concepts of perpetration scale. It shows you how to prevent, how to safeguard, how to recognise models of offending, bias, disclosure, explanations of abuse and types of abuse. This course is going through the CPD accreditation. It's going to be a qualification. So where we are now, ladies and gentlemen, this is a mass empowerment exercise. We are people sourcing. We'll speak at any platform. We'll go to any event.
We're looking for that parent people, people power, and that's what it's about. We've been raising money, we've had people walking across the width of Wales, people climbing mountains. All of this has been grassroots. Not one single big donation, not one single big funder. But you know what, somebody can give you £100, but 10 people can give you £10 and those 10 people really matter.
That's 10 people supporting. So what we are doing right now, ladies and gentlemen, we are raising money to get us accredited, which will be happening next month. Then we will be purchasing a minibus and we will be taking this preventative approach all around the UK, looking for the new mums, looking for new dads, showing them how to prevent, showing them how this is wrong and that that way we will create an environment where this stuff cannot exist.
We will create environments where Pride does are reluctant to offend, and together this grassroots movement will make us the safest place in the world for raising and educating children. I think the applause says an awful lot that I know don't need to and we said today was to be about people who are actually doing things.
Commissioner would utterly unbelievable and I think after hearing that, there is no doubt that we do go away as the seed planters, but the responsibility is now upon us, armed with what we've just heard.